Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 333 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Theo Von Et al.

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

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What a legend he was. And I still haven't seen John Wick for you yet, but I can't wait. Join us always by my co-host Todd. How you doing, bud? I'm great, buddy. All right. You didn't done some smell and salts today already. Three in a row. Love that. All right. Let's get this show started. You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience

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Obviously the smelling souls came out again. Mmm. This is kind of that thing. How many smelling salts do you think have been sold because of the episode with Theo and Rogan? I know, that's what we're doing. That's why we bought him. Of course it is. Yeah. Because we're easily influenced. Yeah. Yeah.

I would say millions. Millions of smelling salts. We should have got some stock. We should have got some smelling salts. Is that a thing? I think it is. It works well. I love it that he made it down to the comedy mothership.

Obviously he loves it. Just had the best time. There was kind of a, what would you call it? A bit of a joke early on, kind of backhanded, that was rousing if you're 35 and dating a 17-year-old, you can't be a comedian anymore. And uh, just super creepy. Well, as a sneaky little little blow on Chris the lay, I think whoops, whoops. I mean, I, it's pretty obvious in that world, but, but yeah, he's, he's crisp.

And, but also, to Joe's point, if you're a, what, Joe's point. If you're a 17 year old male and you bone your teacher, who's let's say 30 or 35, there's nothing wrong with that. She just gets a slap on the wrist. Yeah. It does seem was the other way around and gets fired, you know, she'll get fired from her job. Get fired. But all of his buddies are high five in them in the hallway. That's for sure. She's still gonna get put on like a sex offender's list though.

Still gonna tell a little neighbors when she moves someone. Not going to prison though. It doesn't seem as creepy somehow. Yeah. That's a double standard for just. I mean, it's just weird. Yeah.

I give it to weird, maybe less creepy, but just, I mean, it's just weird all around. Anyone is 35 and wants to hang out with a 17 or 18 year old. Do you think there's like some sort of like developmental problem, like just like weirdly mature, or are they like trying to relive some high school moment that they, I don't even know. I think it's probably a bit of both, but yeah, who knows? Yeah, come on, teachers. All right, just teach them.

Just teach them some. But yeah, all over the board here, we got Orca attacks, we got monkeys throwing dogs off roofs. We're talking about Rosanne getting nailed by cars. Yeah. Monkeys killing those dogs was interesting. Will you shut your laptop up, dude, with this shut cap?

It's shut. God, Jesus. Apple max. Yeah, so these couple of monkeys, I guess a dog attacked one of them, and they just went on a rampage and killed like all the dogs. That's pretty savage. Yeah, don't mess with monkeys, dogs. How do you think monkeys killed dogs?

They throw them off the roof. Oh, they just carry them up there and chuck them. They were taking little dogs and carrying them up to the roof and just chuck them off. Oh, so it was like the babies. Yeah, they just killed the baby dogs. Before they grow up to kill the monkeys. The small enough dogs.

Yeah. Well, monkeys are strong. They probably carry all sorts of stuff up on a roof. Yeah. More than bananas, that's for sure. And yeah, in these Orca attacks on boats. So I guess they've been paying attention to this for about three or four years, and now it's kind of getting out of control.

It's like some Orca out there, they think may have got hit by a boat and is like now telling all the other ones, and training them, and now they're just, they're going nuts. Training them to hit the rudder so that the boat tips over in sinks. Nuts. Yeah. Smart whales, man. Wow, they're awesome. We always knew whales were smart.

Yeah, and if they want to turn against us, we're going to be in big trouble, you know? Imagine if blue whales, all the, the, what is it? Well, bum whales, what are the ones that that they do the bubbles and then just all come up and they like eat a kayaker by accident? Which ones are those? Humpback?

I thought that was in Orca, which is a humpback here. Okay. Which, this is the, yeah, same type. Yeah. No. Oh, the ones that look, they have the white ones. The white ones were like killer whales. Yeah, it's the same as a humpback, isn't it?

No, a humpback's way bigger. Okay. Either way, those ones could fuck up some boats. We gotta watch out. Pretty good. The animals are getting smart. Yeah, well, I think it's good that they start to hate us. Good for them.

I'd hate us too. Oh right. I'm team human. I'm team humpback on this one. Big youth team humpback. Yep. Team humpback. Love that.

What about Joe's revelation on mushrooms? That was kind of cool. I was like, I don't know what. I was like in the middle of writing a paper and I was super bored. I didn't want to do it. So I went for a walk, just listened to some pods. And it was out the back of our place, Todd and I lived close together. There's that park over there, you know, if you head out and the pond. And I was just walking around there and he's talking to Theo and he's like, yeah, he had this revelation

on mushrooms recently where it was like, I could just feel this certain frequency. Yeah. That I was in. It was really good. It just felt like the best way you can feel. And I don't know if people were offering drinks or he was thinking of having one, but either way there was like some message that was like, hey, if you have a drink right now, it's going to kick you out of this frequency. And then, you know, everything's going to change for

right now. So you decided not to, you just enjoyed it. And it does make you think on those days when you're, I don't know, in a bit of a funk or you find yourself like in a really good place, it's like, what, what is that? I wonder if that is ever measurable, like fear was saying. Like one day you'll have a whoops strap or a, you know, fit bit. And it's just like, yeah, it just kinda like guide you into that zone. I mean, aren't you and I mostly in that zone?

And then there's like a week of man's station that I like to call it. Full moon. It's a full moon. It's a full moon. We haven't had a nice sunlight. Tides are strange, it's raining too much. Yeah.

But all those other days, there is something going on where I am feeling more happy and more excited and my brains working faster. I don't, I never thought of it as a frequency, but it makes sense. It's like, that's what the earth gives us, right? We're all just energy moving around at a certain rate, right? Right. But you know, it also highlights like what gets you there, like what helps. what the earth gives us, right? We're all just energy moving around at a certain rate, right? But you know, it also highlights like, what gets you there?

Like what helps? Are we all supposed to be on some sort of low dose mushroom protocol or, you know, what is it that adjusts those things? Yeah. And it is strange to think that the, you know, Hubertman talks about how only these macrodosis are really kind of get you back to square one and grow, right? Grow the neurons in your brain.

But they're saying that the low doses of mushrooms, which I don't particularly agree that this is true, but I'm no scientist. They were saying that that doesn't do much for depression and keeping you happy. I feel like when I'm on a low dose of mushrooms, I feel way better. I'm a little. They were saying that that doesn't do much for depression and keeping you happy. I feel like when I'm on a low dose of mushrooms, I feel way better. I'm a little bit more smiley.

You don't really feel it. It sounded like Joe was on more than a low dose that day though. Well, it certainly is true that you're not a scientist. Right. So I neither am I. But don't you feel better when you're on a low dose of mushrooms? Very small. Yeah, you can have a good time with the low dose ones.

I mean, it definitely takes, you know, it's like the difference between a couple of beers and 10 beers, you know? You can have a good time on both. I think what Hubeim was saying about the high dose or heroic dose, which is like, I don't know, above four grams or four and a half or something. Three and a half.

That's like a big blast to reset you and can really help with depression. Right. Assuming you're not on some sort of SSRI or antidepressant, something like that. Yeah, you're not supposed to take psilocybin if you're on an antidepressant. Yeah.

Well, so what was Theo saying? He is on, he's on the Zoloth, right? No, he's on, he is on, gosh, what's the other one? Lexapro. Lexapro, thank you. Okay. Okay. And I don't know if you're taking it.

Yep, that's what I take. He'd take that too. Okay. So yeah, kind of keeps him feeling somewhat, what was he saying? Like normal, I guess he's saying that when he's not on it, there's just certain days that it's like too much work to like Get himself straight. Yeah, he he mentioned that for me it keeps me More even keel right there's the the down days are less down

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site wide. All right. Yeah. You're Wes earplugs. He said in the morning. I think that was fascinating to me. You know, there's like a lot going on with feel always, right? He doesn't really speak like normal people, you know? It's why his comedy is so unusual. Because it's all over the place. Well, I think it's just different. Like, there's a thing I think it's called like,

Sinisthesia, which is something that is similar to what can happen when you take acid, right? You can like smell a color, right? Or see a sound. They kind of describe it like that. And they say some people have this in regular life. And it helps them kind of change his language. There was a thought that Shakespeare had that.

That's why his metaphors are so good because he saw it in a different way. And I've always felt like Theo has something like that. That's why he can just say some of the wackiest things. I mean, honestly, some of the best shit he's ever said is on his podcast and it's like that. He just thinks of it, says it. It's like this wacky idea cracks everyone up. Maybe he needs that time to like kind of slow himself down and like make sense of where his thoughts are. What he's thinking. Did he explain why he did that?

It was just because he wanted it to be, he just wanted to have zero distractions, right? I think so. Yeah. It might just be that. It might just be that and maybe it's just good for everybody to do something like that. But, well, it was great to see the standing ovation. We saw that. We watched.

Oh, yeah, we watched the, oh, when he went into the mothership, onto the mothership, well, I was surprised they didn't know he was going to be there. No idea he was going to be there. I mean, that's got to feel great. Just the two of them talking about how crazy it is. And this happens a lot when the comics come on. Obviously, that was go back to how Joe can't believe it's real and how amazing it is. And this happens a lot when the comics come on. Obviously, that was go back to how Joe can't believe it's real and how amazing it is. But it's just, I just love seeing his

buddies on just couldn't see the camaraderie that's happening between him and all of his comic friends and how they're all getting such a boost from not only the show, but the mother ship and also going and doing their own things. I mean, and they can just sit and rant for two hours about, I mean, absolutely nothing. Yeah. I mean, they were all over the board, dude. How many of your notes are just like the most random shit? I have a lot of question marks next to things that they said, for sure, but it was very entertaining.

Like it always is. I loved hearing their story, Joey Diaz going up there and Joe talking about how really the old comedy store when Joey Diaz went on stage, it was like the comic that the other comics needed to see. And I've probably seen Joey perform at a comedy store. You know, he was there quite a lot, like maybe 10 times. And for sure, I've never laughed harder in like a short period of a stand up that I have watching him perform. He can just take, it's like a tidal wave of energy.

And some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like nobody can get away with that. Nice. So it's so great to hear that he's gone back down there. I guess he only did one show, huh? They said that he was set up for two, decided to just do one. He was like, nah. He's got a New York Times best seller now, he doesn't need it. A good point, shout out to Joey.

Hey, dude. Hey, oh. I had a good feeling that that book was going to go to number one. I still got a buy it too. It's cool. I mean, I mean to, but good for him. That must feel good. Right.

That's incredible. Yeah, incredible. What did you think of the, um, the duck dicks? I'd never seen anything like that. I didn't know ducks had dicks. I'm longer. Long, stringy curly. It's like a great screw.

Wait, what is going on there? What I had no clue. Yeah, what the other birds have? I don't know. That was that was something I learned. And yeah, Joe saying it's a bit rapy to watch him. It rapied. And just I didn't know there was so much excitement going on in the duck pond.

No, lots going on there. You really, I mean, I don't even understand how it fits. How does it fit in? They go like a decoy vagina too, Joe said. And hundreds to know a lot about duck anatomy. He definitely, I mean, so Theo for a good 10, couldn't get just big dicks out of his head. Yeah. And then they were showing photos of the 132 pounds scrotum.

Ooh. I'd never seen anything like that either. That, that seems exhausted. There's a lot of random YouTube footage on this episode. Mm-hmm. Didn't they also show like the biggest dick in the world guy? Yeah, 13 inches. They talked about him. Didn't get to see the photo. I wonder if that guy passes out when he gets an erection. It's like he gets turned on and just pat like folds over the mall.

He's just face. Yeah, all the blood goes out of his head into his other head. Just every time. his head into his other head. Just every time. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, they got into the vaccine thing again. The sacred family stuff. Right. About how they didn't go to jail.

These are the guys that, you know, turned us all on to that, you know, the most hated drug in America and this kills everybody. Yeah. Which is, gosh, I'm'm gonna forget the name now. It's the opioid. Anyway. Yeah, what the hell is that?

Son of a gun, what this? Well, it's oxycodone, thank you. Oxycodone, yeah. These guys, they just get fined. And I don't know how we're gonna change the system here. Other than people like Joe talking about it, how do you change the system? because it just seems so rigged? Well, it seems like a good profit margin in a sense, right? Let's say that you host a big party and it's expensive. You got a band, you got caterers, you got all these

things, and you make $100,000. Well, let's just put it into their terms. They made $12 billion and they had to give five back. That's what I mean. Still made seven, right? So even if you look at a party, that way you make $100,000, but you got to pay $60,000 to everybody involved. You still made 40. Right.

And there's no, yeah, there's no fines. I mean, there's no like criminal time. You know, there's no, yeah, there's no fines. I mean, there's no like criminal time. You know, there's a bad press, but how often does a bad press really hit us in the media? I mean, these companies are sponsoring all the news and TV stuff anyway. And newspapers. Here in New Zealand,

they're not allowed to sponsor anything anywhere else. No television. Right. No, none of these companies like Pfizer can sponsor anything other than in the United States in New Zealand. Yeah. So that to me is the number one thing we got to stop. That seems like a problem.

It's a problem. It's not exactly de-inscentivizing them to make products differently. Of course, they're constantly getting away with literal murder. Yeah. And so, is that money going to the families? We don't even know where that money's going. How did Joe describe it? It was like something of responsibility.

I forgot the word, but like, like a separation of responsibility. Well, yeah, I mean, well, they're not responsible at all. They're just on yachts and big houses and they're like, well, we're doing our best and some people get hurt. No, so he equated it to, if you're in a large crowd and somebody's getting their ass kicked, right? If somebody's getting beat up in a large crowd, or if you're working for a large company and they're doing bad things, there's so many people doing it that you just, you kind of go with it, right? If somebody's getting beat up in a large crowd or if you're working for a large company and they're doing bad things, there's so many people doing it that you just you kind of go with it. That's it. Oh, diffusion. Yeah, diffusion of responsibility. So if you were the only one doing it, if you were just one man or one woman and you created this company and you're the sole proprietor

to this company doing all these bad things, yeah, you're gonna feel way worse. But if you're working for this brand, I mean, of course you're gonna feel bad, but I think that, I think there's a lot to that. It's like, well, if everybody's doing it, no big deal. It's like, you're in a crowd and no one's helping someone who's getting their ass kicked. Okay, well, if they're not helping,

I'm not gonna help, but if you were there, like, you're getting beat up, obviously, I'm gonna help because you're my friend. But but if you were there, you're getting beat up, obviously I'm gonna help, because you're my friend. But even if you were just in a crowd. If you weren't in a crowd of people, I did that to Adam last week. If it was just someone you didn't know, and there was three of you,

and there's two guys beating up one person, and the three of you are obviously gonna do something about it. You're not just gonna walk away. Like three other people, strangers, yeah, you're gonna try to break it up. But if there's another 50 people there, you might be like, wow, just kind of watch have us. So someone else will deal with it.

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In fact, I might have been the most mad I've ever heard in B when he's talking about these companies. You know, I mean, maybe he's had some family that have been affected by this. I know that where was he? With the eyes of Donald, Louisiana. Yeah. Right. And, you know, I mean, maybe in that area he saw some, some people really struggle with this

stuff. I know, I know Joe Joe has talked about having friends that whose lives have gone off the rails for it. You know? I mean, like Joe said, he had what did he have like some sort of nose surgery, right? Yeah, he had deviated septum. And then his doctor is like, oh, yeah, take this.

Take this and all these two different medications and that'll help. And it's's like how much does this hurt? It's like is it gonna get worse? Is it gonna be the same like you just didn't need it? Yeah, and it's so easy to See how people can get hooked on this stuff. I mean if a doctor gives you something and it's from the doctor and it feels great Like better than just the pain of whatever you know, or your knee surgery, whatever. I mean, yeah, you might want to just keep doing it.

It is a lot harder to get now. From what I've heard. From friends that have knee surgeries and, you know, they're giving you, they're giving you, you know, different pain relievers instead of opioids nowadays, You know, they're giving you they're giving you You know different Pain relievers instead of opioids nowadays because it is it's become such a epidemic. It's probably a good move Yeah, it is a good move and I think that you know there was a guy on I can't think of his name the drug the guy who was Selen drugs for a Viagra remember that guy who was on? He was on Rogan.

And he talked about how these doctors and the reps for the doctors would get steak dinners. Yeah, yeah. Golf clubs, right? That's the Hawaii. They would have to spend, you know, $5,000 a week or whatever it was to, you know, the doc to pay off the doctors

and the doctors would then help them out. And anyway, it's all just a money thing. And it's like he started to feel bad because everyone's kind of going with it. And as soon as he decided, ah, this doesn't really feel right, if he said anything, all of his buddies that he's working with are like, fuck you dude.

Like you just cut into our $5,000 a week credit. Yeah, that we have to spend. And we're having a great time. We don't give a crap about these patients. I mean, at the end of the day, it all comes down to the money that is being created from it. Yeah, dangerous. Right. Yeah. Nasty. And how do you stop that? I don't know. We talk about it all the time. Yeah. And it's with politicians and it's with drug companies. And now they're all Incahutes and Joe talks about it all the time. These executives of drug companies are then now getting pushed into being CEOs and politicians

or politicians are taken money from drug companies and then all of a sudden their political career's done and they end up being the CEO of Pfizer or whatever other company. Right. I know that's not so nasty about it though. It's like how is that real? their political career's done and they end up being the CEO of Pfizer or whatever other company. Right. I know. That's not so nasty about it though.

It's like, how is that real? And what he talks about it. Theo has a lot of experience with addiction stuff and counseling and the therapy that comes with the AA and the other ones. Yeah. Well, he said he does the AA prayer every morning. Right. The serenity prayer. Yeah.

And, you know, one thing he talks about with alcohol is he was like, it's like the only disease that tells you you're not sick, you know. And then he kind of said that Rogan in a way has redesigned being an addict. He has like a good balance for it. So there's a balance, though with some people, it doesn't seem that way. It seems like moderation is just like these drugs, even alcohol has such claws in some people, that there's no balance for them that they can maintain. You know, it probably is just availability, but maybe not even that like the strength of it.

Imagine if you have like this massive desire all the time to get drunk. I mean, you can just go into really any liquor store and buy like the cheapest little thing of vodka and it gets you that immediately. It's like you and I prefer mostly drinking beers, right? Yeah, it takes kind of a lot of beers, often, to get pretty smashed.

And you just not put in the time in, right? Even when I just hate being hung over too. Well, that, yeah, yeah, too. But, I mean, at any time I send it, I just hate myself the next day. Yeah, I hate you. But, yeah, some people just can't stop. Uh-huh.

Yeah, and it's right there. And I think that's why it's good You just can't stop. Uh-uh. Yeah. And it's right there. And I think that's why it's good to have people like Theo that speak so clearly on it. You know, Russell Brand is another example that's like really open and honest about their experience with it and how they stick to and fair play to them. You know, sometimes I used to think that people that had to quit were like missing out, you know, or they just couldn't find a balance and that there was a better way. But it's hard to say now.

I'm not convinced. I'm like, yeah, if you've identified that it's too much, you got to stop. Get away. Ah, yeah, I mean, I could see Theo getting way too drunk real quick just from the, from the Outtakes of him doing the frickin smelling sauce. Yeah Give me another give me another he's only allowed a few drugs these days Though saying that I think that it would have been really very fun to have part of with Theo back in a day. I bet he was an animal But absolutely give her him for staying clean. What did you think about him having RF K on,

Kennedy and that pod. So so Rogan has him on this week. I haven't heard that one yet, but we're not here that week. Yeah, it sounds good. And I guess it broke one of the violated some rules like course through YouTube, but it was the WHO the violated some rules, like, of course, through YouTube, but it was the WHO, the COVID violation rule, and yeah, they demonetized it, and it happened like way, way later. Do you think Theo's like, you know, he's not really out there making like political stances

on things. So this might have been a bit of a shock to him. I don't think he's had many really controversial, right, potentially controversial podcasts. I haven't heard his one with RFK, but you know, how bad could it have been? But just the fact that all those months later, YouTube just says, no, you know, are they doing themselves a disservice? It's just surprising. I mean, clearly YouTube is getting paid off by, you know, I don't know who their sponsors are, but it just saves them from getting some sort of lawsuit in the future, I guess.

I don't know. Yeah. And then, you know, obviously, he's talking about Joe brought up the percentage of people that were affected by polio, how many were asymptomatic, yet everyone was getting that vaccine. And I don't think it hurts to be educated on anything. I think for the longest time, we just assume that all vaccines were 100% good and had to be taken. And now people are asking different questions.

And I don't see how just wanting to know is so bad. I really don't. The last thing I wanted to hit on because we're kind of running... Well hold on, the polio thing though, do you got to bring up the DDT part? Because what he was mentioning is that DDT could have been a cause of a lot of the symptoms that people were having. They have similar symptoms to polio. Something like that, right?

And they were spraying that stuff all over the place, all over crops, all over, it's a pesticide. It's the, to get rid of the mosquitoes, right? Whatever was screwing up the crops at the time that they were doing it. I don't think it was crops. DDT was for, I think it was for mosquitoes. Because of like, malaria, mosquito. You know, I've traveled. Okay. I thought it was for crops.

Well, you're not a scientist. Maybe it is. Maybe. Maybe it is, but that shit was getting everywhere. They found that in like, freaking penguins in the North Pole, man. It's like in everything. The last bit on Theo, which is something I wanted to talk to you about. That guy stuck upside down, that snowboard video.

You see that? Oh, yeah. Does that freak you out? I saw that when it came out. Now, Todd's a big snowboarder. He runs the snowboard magazine up here in Bozeman called Bombs Snow Magazine. It's dope. Check it out.

Check it out. Yeah, you know, you've been around this forever. Yeah. How does that hit you? Like, I see it and I'm like, fuck that. That's why I don't give very adventurous. But I mean, I was so blown away that he came across that snowboard that was upside down. If you watch the video, the guy's skiing

and he's from a completely separate party. He's skiing by himself, I think, but he has his GoPro on and it's on his chest and he's skiing through the woods and all of a sudden, he like skis over somebody's snowboard and the snowboard is completely upside down in the snow. The guy's stuck in a tree well. He realizes after like two more turns, like holy shit, I just like skimmed over somebody's snowboard that was upside down. Yeah. So he takes off his skis, he hikes back up the mountain

and you see all of this on video and he starts carving out, I mean, he's like using his hands, he's digging out the snow as fast as he can and you can hear him breathing. He's freaking out. Yeah. This guy was, he was a good five feet deep in this tree well. This is, I think it was at Mount Baker somewhere in Washington.

It was a lot of snow. Did it say how long he was upside down for? I don't think. I'm not sure if they would know. You know what I think it asked him afterwards. It would, I mean, maybe he didn't know. He could have been, I would say he was under there, you know, he could have been anywhere from five minutes

to 20 minutes. Who knows? Jesus. But either way, he would have died if that guy wasn't skiing, right? And skiing right over top of him. Yeah, and then you could see, I mean the whole thing is on film He digs out his his air, you know, he digs out a hole right for, you know, for his airway Now now let me ask you this because you guys go up on the ridge or whatever on bridge. Yeah. And you have the avalanche beacon or whatever. Do you have to push the button on it?

You just keep it turned on. And then, so if someone can find you. Yeah, so there's a frequency that will beep if you're close to another, they call them beacons or transceivers. If you're close to another transceiver, you put it on transceiver mode and you can hear it beep the closer you get. So you kind of walk in a grid pattern into you hear another beep and then it'll show you how close you are.

It'll give you like the amount of meters away or a way. Okay. So it doesn't like send a message to like ski patrol or a helicopter or something? No, okay. No, that's a spot. That's like if you're way out in the back country, if you're not around a resort, you're going to be one of those spot things to call in like the search and rescue. So even if he had had one of those things, that might not have helped him.

Because nobody knew he was that. Right. Even if they did, he's upside down in the snow. I mean, by the time you get to him, he's going to be dead. He's going gonna suffocate. Oh my God. But that's, the tree wells are really a scary thing because you get closer, the closer you get to a tree,

they call it a tree well because all the snow goes into that one spot, and it's kind of fluffy underneath the tree. And so when you hit it, you sink. Oh. It's not really packed down because no one's like going over it because it's right at the edge of the tree.

So he just fell into a hole. He just fell backwards upside down into one. Yeah. Oh Jesus. So we don't have as much of that problem here in Montana. We don't get as much snow as they do in the west, you know, west of here, in the northwest. Anyway, yeah, that was an incredible video. I mean, thank God he was looking out for that.

Thank God he was there. All right, well, fuck all that. Don't do it. Stay away from trees that bad when you're skiing. Just be real careful. Stick to the bunny slopes like me. No, just kidding. Do what you need to.

All right, let's jump over to Chad. John Wick, director, John Wick for what a legend? Sit a hell ski. To think that they could do four, four, I mean, movies, four movies. Yeah. With really like the most insane violence ever, canneries, absolute legend. And this guy had never even directed a movie before.

Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah. I wonder how you like get into that position. So did, did, did, Stahelski direct all four of these or just this last one? No, the writer changed. Yeah, but the writer is not the director. Right. Yeah. But that, but that was interesting to me, like the like the writer of the John Wick stories is Derek Callstad, but then the new, the fourth version, which is the one that came out, that just came out, right? That was written by another person, Shay Baton. Yeah.

So, I mean, I don't know. I wonder what happened there. Maybe they bought the rights. Somebody else bought the rights and... Might be. Either way. So, Stihlski, he had directed other movies, but this is kind of his breakthrough.

These John Wick movies are his breakthrough movies. Yeah. Yeah. And what did they say? He killed more people than he spoke words. In this one? Crazy. That's wild.

Well, I think the big takeaway from this episode which was so cool is we all know Rogan ever since the first What is that so broctober where they had the my zone straps and they were competing against each other to burn as much energy And get as much points as you can Rogan and it's well known did like an insane day on the elliptical where he just watched the bath scene over and over again. And you know, just crushed it, made like a ridiculous amount

of points. I used to have one of those my zones and I tried like a really intense day once. I wasn't even close to what he did. Yeah, Rogan is a sad guy. It just tells you how many calories you burned, right? Exactly. Or it's like output of energy based on your heart rate. Okay. So yeah, he just went fucking berserk and crushed it.

So he's been a big fan by the third John Wick movie. They didn't have a muscle car in there, which is something Rogan has talked about a lot. I think they had motorcycles, mostly. But yeah, there wasn't like a dedicated muscle car. The other is. And then Chad met him at Terrentactical, met Rogan, I think that's what they meant. And later when he got to Europe,

text Rogan and was like, shit, what car do we need in this movie? What do you say, 71 baracuda, I think he even had a picture to send him immediately. They got the exact car for that movie. That's some influence, Morgan. It's pretty cool. And that's good influence too, you know, it's not like he's fucking the movie up. He's definitely making a cooler. No, that car is sweet. Yeah. How are you? What do you think about all the blood scenes being CGI? I didn't realize that.

Oh, it's pretty cool. It kind of makes sense. Because there's so many blood scenes. Yeah, I think back to the last couple. And I remember when they were talking about it, I think back to two and three. I don't remember one as well. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but.

But yeah, I mean blood is like obviously flying out everywhere and I can't remember if it didn't look good, but I did notice there was like a lot of it, you know, just kind of hitting everybody and after we talked about the wardrobe changes, oh yeah, and how much time that would take, I'm like it makes sense, it's better you guys do it that way for sure. I got to give it up to Tarantino though, for never using that. Yeah, he's old school. Always using the blood blood, blood packs. Yeah, he's old school. You think he did that for, uh, for kill bill, kill bill. Dude, yeah, that movie is like the most insanely glory movie of all time. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it's brilliant. Such a good flip. Samurai scene, such a good flick at a control. And then the's awesome. Yeah, it's brilliant. Such a good flip. Samurai. See, such a good flip. At a control.

And then the dogs being trained to attack the color green. That was cool. You do like the green screen, so then you can do a CGI with the, right? That would be the point of that, right? I think that's the point. So whatever's green, you can then put in some gory fake, you know, limbs and arms getting cut off and bit into. Yeah. What do you do with the dog that's been trained to attack people's nuts after a movie is finished?

It seems like that's way too much of a liability to have around. What was that movie? Your sick balls? What was that movie? Was it the movie with the guy who had to eat the pies? It's like the old stand by me. Wasn't that in stand by me? Wait.

You know, the flick stand by me? Uh-huh, yeah. With River Phoenix. Of course. One of the greatest movies of all time. So good. But I swear there was a dog in there. It just reminded me of it.

It was like, kujo, sick balls. Oh. Anyway, I don't know. What do you do with the dog? Like that. Yeah. You just leave him on set. It sounds like how he bury was like a big part of the training for it. She also sounds like a badass.

Of course. Like a serious badass. So super hot, she called him. Used to be, I think like a, she was originally like a Miss America. She won it. She won Miss America. So super hot starts acting. And now at what, is she

in her 50? She's got to be. Yeah. And just kick and ask. Very impressive. I'm very impressed by that. How old is Kiano now? He's in his 50s. He is. Okay. Yeah. So Joe's age. Do it as Jits. Pretty sure that's the first time I saw like Deeson looking Jits in a movie. And also what was he saying about that? It was like easy to film kind of like a Jiu Jits who's seen that a fight scene. Cause you have to keep changing the angles. That's interesting to think of.

Like I'd never really considered that before. It makes you think why wouldn't they have done more fight scenes like that in the past then? Because they're not as this not as much action with you Jitsu. Well, that's true, but you can do some cool stuff, you know, like flip over and roll into an armband and snap it. Yeah, I get it, but people want to see people flying through the air kung fu.

That's going to be kung fu. We do. You want to see everybody kung fu fighting? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You be Kung Fu. We do. You wanna see everybody Kung Fu fighting? Yeah, that's really cool. You wanna see Bruce. Yeah, you wanna see Bruce Lee style. Uh huh. I can jump in on stuff, doing back flips.

It makes sense. You know, spin kicks, round house, all that good stuff. Checknarris. Cratic kid. Checknarris stuff. I mean, Matrix style. you know, freeze frames. They do freeze frames in this film.

Matrix style. No, they kind of never brought that back. That was like a one and done for like a one year and done. I think other movies tried it, but then it was just so clearly a rip off of the Matrix that they didn't even, they just, it didn't work. You know, it was like, what are you doing?

It's like a soccer game and the bulls, you know, camera spinning around a kick. You're like, okay, pretty cool like gas. What about Joe building that door at his bar at the comedy mothership that's the same as the assassin's bar in the continental? That sounds dope. I mean, at the end of the day, when I heard of that, yeah, when I, when I first heard that, I just thought, well, of course, if you have, like,

unlimited cash and, you know, you can just do whatever you want, that's the kind of thing you should do. You should do cool shit like that, I think. Nothing wrong with it. I want to see that though now. I'm sure it's bad ass. You what the one of the bigger takeaways and this is totally off Subject from the movie they did talk a lot about the movie, but then they got into kids and you know some politics and stuff But this I think it was based off the digitally enhancing everything and how things are gonna change so much Yeah, it's gonna change so much. AI is gonna change. So much and you're having these transcendental experiences and AI is gonna take over like video games,

which I had never thought about really. I mean, you look at those goggles and you're thinking, okay, that's fun, whatever. But it's gonna be to the point where you're not gonna know what is a video game and what's not. It's gonna be so realistic. And then, uh, so Joe was talking about his kid and this was kind of on that same line of like, what are kids going to do? They're never going to leave the house. You're never going to get your kid to be able to leave the fucking

house and play soccer anymore. Read a book. Probably not because there's just going to be other stuff that's so much more stimulating. But he was talking about how his kid, his little girl, is like a little prisoner, right? The mom is saying his kid can only watch X amount of phone or YouTube a day. And she was figuring out how to rewind that app and then take a screenshot of the time

she was already on YouTube. What she was doing screen recording. Screen recording, then showing it to her mom. Cheeky, right? I love that. I loved it too, but you know it's proud of it. Joe is proud of it. Yeah, it's so smart.

But it's, it freaks me out, man, because I got a three-year-old. And it's just like, Well, they're going to figure it out too. They're all going to figure it out. What do you think about the right to strike stuff? I mean, you know, you pretty some magazine, you know, and I know when I first talked to you about the types of things chat GPT could do, you would not a big fan of it.

No, I was thinking like it was taken away from the human experience. And I get where they're at, you know, I don't want to bunch of people and we're in the entire industry to lose their job, you know, and it does this ultimately mess with creativity because like what's his name, Michu, Mucaco, Michu, you're cacu, yeah. He was basically saying that all this program is doing is plagiarizing other things. So, right. It's just mixing up ideas that already exist. So how does that change the quality of new ideas? I mean, that's problematic. Right.

Right. But then also, it's hard to, you think of all the budget constraints on a show. And now they could come along and say, Hey, chat GBT right me an entire comedy, you know, like friends. And it just makes it. That's a little difficult to stop. Are they gonna have to prove that they didn't use AI somehow? That I think there's just gonna be a lot of lawsuits and it's gonna be hard to tell what's real and what's not.

I mean, where are you seeing it? Where are you seeing it happen? And we're not gonna be able to stop it. So whether you like it or not, it's happening, it's already happening. I mean, that's kind of where the point that I got to was just realizing that this is not going anywhere. So we might as well start using it to our advantage. Yeah. And to help it integrate into these people's jobs instead of having to get rid of them.

I mean, one thing I saw, I was at the gym watching the TV, like in between sets. And it showed, while listening to this part at the same time, it showed the Paul McCartney is releasing a new Beatles song or album, I can't remember which one, that has John Lennon in. And it's like AI is added to it. That's awesome. And there's probably a few things going on there.

One, I think that pretty sure the Beatles sold a lot of their back catalogue for a lot of money. I think it may have even been to like Michael Jackson's estate. So if there's new versions of their songs that are AI created, but Paul's doing it, does he then get all the rights to it? And therefore, is that all that bad? Like maybe they can come out with a really cool new Beatles album. A lot of lawsuits, man. It could be wild.

I want some new Nirvana albums that we love cannot make money off of. Oh, you're not a big fan of her? Absolutely not. I think she had something to do with his death. Whoops. Now we're going to guess. I don't agree with calling it. Just kidding.

Just kidding. Love you, Farron. But yeah, new albums. That would be amazing. New Do kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Love you, Karin. Yeah, new albums. Like that would be amazing. New Doles albums, new Jimmy Hendrix. Like, why the fuck not? Let's take actors.

Let's take Arnold in his prime. I don't know if you've seen the new Netflix documentary, Arnold. It's brilliant. But yeah, to go back and do like, you know, predator, you know, another prequel, but it's like him and it's exactly how he was when he was most like massively buff and awesome. It's gonna happen. That's to me kind of cool. It's gonna happen.

And also yeah, maybe it messes it up for new actors and news, you know, super mussely dudes that are trying to get in there like, but. Hey man, sorry I'm still waiting on a new two-pack album and it's gonna be ridiculous love that yeah, okay All right guys, let's do it go out check out John Wick for of course it sounds dope I need to watch out watch of this weekend there you go and Anyway, we love you but talk to you next week. Later.