Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 336 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Ice Cube Et al.

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

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Enjoy the show. Oh yeah. The Jourogan Experience Review. Great week. Back in the saddle, what's up buddy? Dude, ice cube on this week, come on. Yeah, ice. Ice cube.

What a legend. We also got Kill a Mike and then Amanda Fielding. Yeah, very interesting week. Yes. Who we start with. Let's go with Ice Cube. All right. Yep.

My God. This guy's been around forever. How much do you think he's worth? He's gotta be mega wealthy. I don't know, but I had no idea how many films he actually produced, which was cool to hear. Dude, I can't believe he wrote Friday. I knew I did know that. It's so funny though. Yeah. I mean, isn't that how Chris Tucker kind of got famous? Isn't that his first film? I think so. Yeah. It's not the fuck dude. That was brilliant. What a legendary line.

Well, there's like four Fridays. I've only seen the first one. Yeah, I only saw that one. Friday after next. Maybe there's only three. I may have seen some of the other ones, but either way, the first one was legendary. I thought it was cool to hear about how when he was,

when he starred in Boys in the Hood, right? That was his first movie that he was really involved in. Right. And that kind of spurred this idea of, hey, I kind of like being in movies and I want to maybe produce some and write some. And it sounded like there was a kid that was following him around, he said he was a sophomore at, was it at Harvard? There was a guy that was part of, you know, maybe knew his manager or something, and kept kind of pushing Ice Cube to write more, because like, obviously his lyrics are amazing.

Yeah. He's smart. He's super artistic, and he convinced him to be in Boys in the Hood, and then he also convinced him to write Friday. It sounded like. Right. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

Dude. I mean, just like if you think of the the like breadth of his capabilities. Can we say depth to and depth? Yeah. Wide and deep. That's what we're saying. But if you think of what now, sorry, just just that like think of the range that he's had. Yeah, like gangster rap, kids, funny movies, like hilarious movies, like action. Yeah. And then yeah, what was the, he also was in 21 Jump Street, the newer one. Great. That was a good film. Yeah, that was good.

But I appreciated him when he talked about, you know, what was he calling it? The cube vortex. And... And... Well, it was cool. And he didn't really say it was because he was a father, but in my mind, it stems from him being a dad. I mean, he has five kids.

And for him to explain that he didn't want seven-year-olds saying you got knocked the fuck out and watching Friday because he didn't mention it was because of his own kids, but I imagine it had a lot to do with it. And that's kind of what brought him to create more family movies because he wanted younger kids to have something to watch that maybe was PG 13 instead of rated R. Or just PG.

Yeah. Well, what was that film? The, I think that first kids film he did was supposedly really good. I haven't watched it. But he was having like five and six and seven-year-old kids saying, hey, I first found out about you. Let me just look that film up real quick,

hold on, what was it called? Are we there yet? Right. So he does the Are We There yet show, which is he, I think it's the premise is him taking his girlfriend's kids on a road trip. Right. Right. Uh-huh. Having to deal with that. Sounds good. We should watch it. Yeah. I bet it's funny. But it is cool how he said, yeah, now this new generation, if

they watch his stuff at the appropriate ages, you know, and then eventually get to like Friday, and then who knows, end up listening to NWA, at some point, they get to see this like, kind of age-appropriate progression of him like crushing it at all those levels. Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, that's badass.

I mean, I wish Iced Tea would have done that a little bit, because I love Iced Tea too. He's any been on that co-op show forever. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he's also a great actor. I mean, you think of it like any artist, not any artist, but a lot of artists, right? They're good on the mic, they're good in front of people,

they're good at creating a persona on stage. Obviously, most of these people, you would think are gonna be good actors as well. Yeah, you would imagine. Or directors, because they know, and that was another interesting thing he mentioned about how he wants to be behind the scenes. He doesn't want to just be an actor.

He doesn't want to just be told what to do. He wants to be behind the scenes. He wants to help produce. He wants to help write and be involved in the direction of the film, which is cool. And it makes sense because he's a fucking solo rap artist. Yeah, legend. Well, didn't he say he's starting a podcast tour, that sounds dope.

He like wants to meet the fans and get out there. Is he doing that now? I think it's starting. Okay. He wants to like set that up. He should put some links in about that, but he wants to meet the people. And he was talking about, what's he doing with that basketball thing? It's like a network, oh, he was a tour.

He was, he's trying to create a, um, it was like a three on three tour, or is it more of a, more of a, like, like smaller version of the NBA. Right, right. He's getting pushed back, because they don't want the competition, which is so dumb. They should just, you know, should be open to that. It's like, people are either going to watch it or they don't. You know what I mean? It only supports everything that is basketball.

Yeah, but people get scared, man. They're scared of rappers, you know? Yeah, all these, all these rich old white guys are probably still scared to ice cube. So he says it, this, so this was two weeks ago, ice cube is basketball league partners with Mid Atlantic Sports Network ahead of summer tour. So it sounds like they're about to do a summer tour. Okay. Okay. That's a check that out, but that's, you know, that's very different too. And awesome. Like he's he's got, you know, his hands and a lot of pies. Well, yeah, he's a smart guy. Yeah. And he's freaking busy, you know? Oh, for sure. That's the beauty of when you see the amount

of talent that some people have, clearly ice cube has it. And they just can't stop. Yeah. They just get a new idea, they keep doing it, they're just entrepreneurs, and they have enough money to create these things. I mean, that always helps, right? He's not like he doesn't have any cash. But it's not like he needs to do any of this stuff. I mean, he has to.

Rich. But he has to. He wants to. It's what he does. He likes to say busy and relevant and I get it. It's badass that these rappers are a member being a kid and thinking what a rapper is gonna look like when they're older because rap just seemed

like such a young, cool thing. And then eventually these rappers will be like old men and it's like can you still rap that? No, this just looks silly. But really it's the same as rock stars, you know? know, exactly. You would love to go watch Snoop or ice cube do anything, right? Go saying and they have walked in their 50s at least. Oh, yeah, he's in his 50s for sure. So it says, okay, it is a three on three basketball league. I was right. Okay. So it's a three on three founded by hip hop musician and actor ice cube.

The league consists of 12 teams whose rosters include both former NBA players and international players. That's sweet. That's pretty dope. And three on three's fun to watch, man. Yeah. That's a fast game. Not pretty sick. Yeah. They're sick. Duncan. Yeah. I like that. When we're going to ask him, what is what was the first thing you bought with your money? You know, when he got rich. Oh, yeah, and he's like a Honda court. That's right. He had 20 G's cash And he was like that's how much I got and I want a new car to 100 chords or tight when they first came out What was that probably 93 you just imagine him saying like oh, I bought a Ferrari or a Benzer Whatever, right? You would think a bet But now he was just like yep, that's what I got.

I didn't spend too much. He talked about those two guys, the bull, those co-vets, and literally spent all of that cash. He's like, now you broke. Yeah, what was interesting to me is to hear the timeline, because I grew up listening to gangster rap and just rap in general, because my older brother, he's four years older than me.

And so anytime he would leave the house, I would go downstairs and listen to his general, because my older brother, he's four years older than me. And so anytime he would leave the house, I would go downstairs and listen to his tapes, right? He had the tape deck with the speakers that he had, from my dad, he got all my dad's fucking records, which is funny, because now he runs a record label. But so he had the nice speakers and the tape deck and everything. So I would go down there and listen to, you know,

public enemy, I remember straight out of Compton. That was obviously such a huge deal. And then everything was in the news. Like, Tipper Gore was in the news, trying to get rid of gangster rap. Oh yeah. They putting the label on. Well, right, it was interesting to hear at which I didn't know.

They were the first album to get that sticker, the parental advisory sticker put on their album. And then people were, even if it wasn't an explicit content CD, they were putting the sticker on there just so kids would buy it. Yeah, because it was cool. It was awesome to have a tape back then that had one of those little labels on it.

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For like, cuss words and songs or anything. It was just like, anyone could buy. Well, it was interesting to hear, and it made sense to me that what happened was, the reason at least what Ice Cube was saying is that they used to put everything that was explicit in with like Eddie Murphy Raw and Richard Prior and all the different comedy acts of back in the day because they had records and CDs. Right. So that and obviously they're swearing in those and those didn't have parental advisory stickers.

So he would just assume that that's where the CD was going to end up. But once they put it in the front with the other rap CDs and you know the kids were seeing I mean think about How cool when like when you go to the mall I would always go to the music store always like always that's what you do You go to the music store you flip through shit. It just seemed cool Yeah, and that's what people did and then remember they put the that and it was really cool And like Barnes and Noble put the headphones in so you could listen to it before you bought it That was a cool thing But I think according to cube once they put that in the front and it wasn't, you know,

hidden away or tucked away with the comedian acts, it just blew up. Yeah. It was just insane. It was wild to hear him think that, you know, the band just expected just to be popular with like, you know, in the kind of, I don't know, the hood, right? And that's it. But it's like resonated with everybody. Yeah.

You know, so many of my, like I lived in England, right? When that came out, and so many of my friends had that stuff, and we're just rocking it all the time. Right. And most of our parents hated it. Oh, every parent hated it. Yeah. But that's the funny thing about the publicity

that it was getting. It's like negative publicity is good publicity, especially with children. They're seeing it on the news. Their parents are talking about it. Everyone's talking about it because Kipper Gore is trying to eliminate them and say that they're not allowed. And you got to step up.

And that's what Ice Cube was saying they did. They said, no, we fought back. We stepped up and they were getting arrested on stage. Yeah. Depending on where they were at. And they showed this in the film on the newer straight out of Compton film. What was that? Like eight years ago, probably seven years ago. Yeah. I don't think it was that long. But anyway, great fucking movie though. But that happened in Detroit. And it was funny. He said they got kicked off stage and then all the people that kicked him off even the cops in Detroit were asking for autographs.

Yes. And easy was like just giving whatever they want. We got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, love that dude. Yeah, they banned it at my school, I remember. Really? Like you couldn't have the tape or whatever. And it just made everybody want to have one.

It like definitely did the complete opposite. It's just like that's such a bad move Like did they not realize this would happen? Right. It's like you you want cool if you didn't have a cassette of this and again going back to the timeline This this was really only their second or maybe two they only did two albums And then everybody kind of split up and started their own thing like Dre You know went off and did his own thing easy was already doing his own thing with easy does it easy I didn't realize easy was the one who brought this band together. It was a band of all stars Right different groups what he was the most popular one

He was the name right well cuz he came out with easy does it which fucking, that was hardcore. Yeah. Everybody loved that. Mm-hmm. You know, he was just so raunchy. Man, what a loss. To have lost easy. Really? Dude, so someone was telling me, is there a conspiracy about him actually getting

having AIDS? Because none of the women that he was actually with or that they had, that people had known him to be with actually had HIV. Who knows? I mean, he was in a famous band. He was probably like, did they really keep track on everyone he slept with?

He pressed that with hundreds of them. Kid conspiracy. Yeah, but that was a loss. And also, what a genius idea to bring all the best guys from that time together. And then, you know, each of them really moved on to be massive. You know, they're all so super talented. Did they, did they show, I can't remember the film because it's been a while since I watched it, but did they show the story that I skied was talking

about when they went to Dr. Dre's bar that he was DJing at, right? So Drey was DJing at this bar. That's how he made money. And he was just playing him. And he was just playing him. Incompton. And Drey invites the band to play there. And he's like, you motherfuckers better do good. Like, oh, this is all the bloods with that.

A bunch of bloods were there. That's their hangout. And they crushed it. And they crushed it. And they loved it. They were playing all these old songs, but changing them to rancher songs, right? Yeah, it turned them into like parodies almost. Which is really what two-life crew did.

It's a two-life crew kind of stole that idea. Remember two-life crew, like, several years later. It's the easiest, stealing it though, or is it just using it? Well, they used it, and they crushed as well. But I don't remember that being in the movie, because that's a great story. Yeah, I can't remember. That must have been when they were as well. But I don't remember that being in the movie because that's a great story. Yeah, I can't remember that must have been when they were way younger. I love the story about when he was, you know, real young and they would hop the fences of the schools. Oh yeah. And they'd do like rap battles. Like imagine breaking into the school. Yeah.

To go do that with other kids. Yeah. Like that's freaking badass. That is cool. Yeah. It is cool or just staying on the side of the fence, you know, right? Just stand on the other side and wrap. Mm-hmm. Nuts. Yeah, but I mean, it looks like he's produced over like 20 some films. Easy way. I had no idea. Yeah, I just brought this up. So it looks like, let's see, there's a lot, dude. I just looked this up on Wikipedia, but I couldn't believe how many films were on here. I mean, obviously all the Fridays, all about the Benjamin's. Are we done yet? Are we there yet? He did

barbershop. Those were big. First Sunday, um, janky promoters, the long shots, the players club right along, right along two Sierra Leone's refugee all stars and then straight out of Compton. I mean, that's six, seven, eight, nine, ten. So that's 14, 14 films. Yeah. Look up, look up how much straight out of Compton made. Okay.

Just go to the box office and see. I mean, the fact that he had his son play him and, you know, for two years sent him to like acting coaches, you know, it sounded like the kid really put the work in. It's easy to just be like, Oh, well, obviously his son got to do it. And that's how he got the park. He did. He did. He made the movie. He's still had to put the work in. And he was absolutely perfect. I mean, really probably the best character in that movie. So the budget was 50,000 and it made $201 million for the box office.

She's so, not bad. Imagine how much money Ice made from that. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Yeah. I wonder how much the actual album gross though. We'll figure that out too. I mean, he's probably still getting checks for that. Oh no doubt.

Unless, no, because I think easy, I think easy owned most of the rights to that I believe. Hmm, maybe. I mean, it was definitely a start. That might have also been the reason why the band broke up, right? Because it just comes down to how much money each person's making. Mm hmm. But ruthless records, baby. comes down to how much money each person's making. But ruthless records, baby.

Does it show how much they made? I'm looking. All right. Keep looking. Yeah. His sum was so good in that, though. I was watching some clips the other day and I just forgot. It's like you forget that that's an actor. It looks so much and acts so much like ice cube.

You're like, oh, that's perfect. Mm-hmm. He could probably just do a tour and sing all ice the songs and just be like the young ice cube again. Why not? Look at that. Okay, so easy, when it was easy does it, he did that actually the month after

straight out of Compton came out. So straight out of Compton came out August 8, 1988. It charted number four in the US three times platinum. Holy shit. And then easy does it. See, that's what I remembered is that easy does it came out afterwards, which it did. Hmm. September 16th. It came out a month after straight out of Compton. Well, Cube was saying he had some album that had come out first. I thought well he was clearly You know, he clearly again had a really huge following in South Central LA right around the area Yeah, good times good times dude good times. I mean I again I remember not only listen to this album, but then public enemy and

You know young MC was a little different because that was more poppy but super fun and you know oh gosh what was his name the bigger guy the say he's just a friend oh baby you what was that I can't think he was named Bismarkey right Bismarkey and fucking iced tea. Yeah. iced tea was good. iced tea had a, iced tea had a metal band. No shit. That was fucking awesome.

Wow. Yeah. Cop Killer was another one that he did. That was pretty good. That's right. And then he plays a cop on TV for the longest amount of time anyone has ever played a cop on the television show. Oh, that's good.

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Visit betterhelp.com slash JRER today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash J R E R. It was interesting how he talked about turning that movie down, right? Because he wouldn't get vaccinated. Yeah, 9 mil. And, you know, it wasn't like he made a big to do about it. Excuse me. But it was like released, you know, it's kind of talking about hippos and stuff, which is fair enough, like that's your private medical, you know, status.

And, you know, then he gets that massive blowback, right? Well, of course, because the media just wanted clickbait, dude. Of course they did, you know, and they make him look bad. I wonder if that's been a problem for him in Hollywood sense. Like, do you think that now he's like labeled a certain way and people won't want to work with him? I mean, Hollywood's pretty sensitive like that, you know what I mean?

Probably. Yeah, I mean, he didn't mention any of that, but I would imagine it would. But again, he's the one he produces his own movies. He makes the whole thing. So he can probably kind of push past that if you wanted to. But I mean, dude, like he fought for freedom of speech for all of us, his band did. I mean, they were the reason why the fuck censorship thing on MTV, I mean, all stemmed from what they were doing and what their albums were talking about. And of course, he's gonna not get Vaxed if he doesn't want to. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Wait a fucking, you know, stick it to the man. Look to talk about his character, right? Just in general. I mean, he was in NWA. He decided to leave, you know, work on other things, went back to school. What was it like, architectural, draft Draft thing and design or something.

But I mean, that's amazing. Imagine just showing up to class and Ice Cube sat next to you and he's like triple platinum. Yeah. And he's doing the work. One at that time he was only what? Probably 18 years old or 19. You're young.

Yeah. But yeah, that's humbling, it's smart, it's responsible. It just kind of, you know, shows you the type of character. He's like, a guy that just gets it done. I wish, if I was Rogan, I would have asked him more about Friday, and if that was really how, like, did he get those characters from his mom and his dad. It's like, come on Craig. Come on Craig. Yeah, that would have been a good question. Like, where did you get those characters from? There's so many legendary characters. Yeah.

Like, did you have a debo down the street who was really, you know, had a chicken coop? Did you, you know, was Chris Tucker? Was your best friend really like that? Was he always smoking all that weed with you? And was your dad really, you know, bitching about you, eating all the fucking collo greens and pigs feet. I mean, it's just, it's such a classic. I mean, there's so many

one-liners from that film. So good. I watched that film so many times when I was younger. Oh, yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah. It was just brilliant. What a legend. Listen to that one. Ice Cubes the man. I hope his basketball thing takes off and me too. And we get, we just get more dope shit from ice cube. Love them. Yeah. Good. What a ledge. All right. Let's jump over to Amanda Fielding. She is an interesting lady. Very interesting lady, right? To say the least. So a psychedelic researcher who drilled a hole in her brain. Her cell. I wanted to talk about that, herself a little bit,

because that is kind of wild. I was, you know, there's a lot of talk within the first hour, there's a lot of talk of just this blood being able to pump, right? Right. And how when you're younger, your blood pumps faster, and then all of a sudden, you're, by the time you're in your 40s or whatever,

your heart, it's like your brain just isn't getting as much blood, right? Is that what it is? Yeah. So kids have more energy because more blood is being pumped. Like, when you're born, your heartbeat is like 180 beats per second

or something like that. per second or something. Right, it's very fast. Way faster, it's like a fucking dog's heart. Mm-hmm. And then for whatever reason, it slows down and then of course, you know, people eat fast food every day and then it gets faster. Yeah, yeah. So wait, so do a bunch of out of roll.

That's why I was confused because it sounded to me like the research she was doing is more about getting more blood pumped to your brain and somehow if you drill, what do they call it, tenesis, is that what you call it? Oh no, it is called trepination. Trepination, which is the procedure of drilling like a centimeter hole in your skull. I've heard about that before.

Well, they did it all the time in the frickin' dark ages and all the way up until I think the 1800s they were doing that just for people who had headaches and they thought maybe they were releasing demons. Releasing demons. So if you're basically, if you were psychotic, they would do that to try to release the demons because they thought people were crazy.

Mm. I love the exact medicine. It's hilarious. Give me the thing you think how good it is even now. Are we gonna look back hundreds of years from now and be like, oh my God, they did what? Yeah, so yeah, I don't know anything about this procedure or if it doesn't, it ain't the self.

It just seems wack. It seems a little wacky to me. I don't know. I mean, they talk about how exercise pumps more to your blood to your brain. Just get out and exercise. Just the exact same. We don't need to be drilling holes in our brain.

Go for a run. Go for a run. What I think the most poignant thing that I heard from her was when she wanted to quit smoking cigarettes. And she had, you know, she took a bunch of LSD with the intention of quitting smoking. And she remembers having a cigarette while she's tripping out. And it was gross. And it was disgusting and she hasn't smoked since.

To me, that there's a lot of truth in that. I would say if you're coming in with an intention, I've heard about this a lot with mushrooms. You hear a lot about this with these hero doses with shrooms and trying to get rid of depression and going into the trip with this intention of really being happier. And it creates more synopsis in the brain, right? You're actually creating

these neurons and these pathways and that You know if you smoke weed, I think they die if you take shrooms they expand. Yeah, it grows more You know, and we we were growing up in the dare thing. I don't know if they had the dare program in or anything like it in England Well, they had a bunch of other dumb antidrug bullshit,cht. But it was always like, you know, LSD puts a hole in your brain, ecstasy puts a hole in your brain, and all of that stuff has been debunked. Well, she was said over and over. It's completely non-talksuck. Yeah.

And that's even high doses. Because they've been trying to say forever like it is stores in your spine. Right. And whatever the fuck that means. I remember that one. It's like, I don't even know if they could know that. What are they doing? All top sees on hippies.

And look, I don't advocate everyone doing it. You know, I remember there was a kid in high school and I don't even know if this was an urban legend, but everyone said he just thought he was a glass of orange juice. Is that an urban legend? Have you heard that one? Yeah. Somebody took too much LSD and then they just walk around thinking they're a glass of orange juice. Is that an urban legend if you heard that one? You know, somebody took too much LSD and then they just walk around thinking they're a glass of OJ.

Oh God. So, there's that. Well, the big one was always like people jumping off the roof because they thought they could fly. Yeah, but you know. Really, I mean, I don't know, I know a lot of people that have done acid and none of them jumped up for roof.

You know, you might climb up into a tree and the in the branch falls and you fall on the ground It's true. That could happen anyway though. Been there. Yeah, but But yeah, non toxic completely That's interesting. That's cool. Yeah, it's like I hope and you know like they were saying they've lost 50 years of possible research on Psychedelics because they like bandamor and what like the 60s or whatever 70s And like they were saying, they've lost 50 years of possible research on psychedelics because they like Bandamore and what, like the 60s or whatever, 70s. Well it was the drug war with Nixon because Nixon hated the hippies and the anti-drug.

The drug war started during that, the war on drugs. Right. They just wanted to give us safe drugs like alcohol and cigarettes. Todd, right. They were keeping us safe. Well, look, they were scared of the civil rights movement. Obviously, they were scared of the black panthers. Obviously, they're basically scared of people who are anti-war, which was hippies, black panthers, all the civil rights movement was happening at the same time. People were starting to realize that the government is feeding us lies and the war is stupid and wars money to our government.

So they got to squash that. How are you gonna do that? You gotta get rid of LSD because it makes people think amongst themselves. How dare they think. And they mentioned towards the end about Timothy Leary, how it was kind of a shame, how his speeches and stuff. And I can see this, I've listened to a few of the older,

it's like the grateful dead movement that asked to test. All that stuff's fun, but it doesn't make you think, especially as a parent of children that age, or kids in their 15, 16, 17 years old. As a parent back then, I wouldn't have wanted my kids to go off in that direction. It didn't seem like a direction that was smart. You know, this tune in, tune on, drop out, what is it?

Oh yeah, tune in, turn on, drop out. Yeah, something like that. The drop out bit, they should change that that there was just something there that it basically Created an easy way for the government to say that all these kids are stupid when really they're not they're just trying to take psychedelics and expand their mind and fucking danced at a grateful dead show which is amazing but it the the Messaging I think was off and it was an easy way for people to say drugs are dumb,

they make you stupid, you know, look at these hippies. Mm-hmm. And which we all know is not true. I mean, really, I mean, fuck there, the baby boomers. Now they're the ones telling us not to do drugs. Yeah. They let money take over, you know. Of course they did.

But imagine if we had 50 years of research through all this, we're just now finding out it's good for PTSD. It possibly, you know, microdosing, psilocybin might be good for Alzheimer's and Alzheimer's is a horrible condition for somebody to get or, you know, a family to have to, you know, what deal with that happened to some, you know, the grandfather or whatever. And, you know, again, no cure for it. We can't figure out what's going on there. It's like, if you don't die of heart disease and cancer, because you took care of yourself, you're going to go out with like dementia Alzheimer's or something. Yeah, I mean, this is just a theory of mine, but haven't they talked about as per tame creating

maybe more Alzheimer's patients? I mean, so my grandmother drank Diet Coke every fucking day. I would go to my grandparents house, they always had Diet Coke in the fridge. She drank it every day. And she got dementia in her 80s. And the last like three years of her life, it was horrible.

She, you know, no one could understand what she was talking about. She's saying the same thing and over and over. She had these notes in her drawer with my dad's phone number on them. My dad lived two doors down. They lived in this like kind of a block where there was condos. Right. So when they got older, instead of them going to a old folks home, my dad just moved in a couple doors down so we could check on them.

She had all over the house, endures, and cabinets under the bed, in the bathroom notes that just had my dad's phone number on them. She used. Because she didn't want to forget his phone number. She was so terrified. Well, imagine how scary it is to just be forgetting everything like that. And every day you forget more and more. It's like a hard drive is just getting wiped.

And if there is a way, right? If that is, I'm not, I don't know. They even don't know the research yet. But if it's like, yeah, once you get 60 years old, you know, a doctor says, right, we now get you on a psilocybin regimen, and you take X amount, and it could be low enough to weigh, you're not like tripping balls all day.

You're just like taking care of your brain with this supplement basically. Right. But all lost. Well, I mean, don't you think that has a lot to do with drug companies not wanting us to be healthy? Well, they just want to make a lot of money. Right.

So if they could pat in it, you know, and control some of it, so that if they change a little bit of it, they probably want to take out the bit that makes you trip, which is a shame because that's the fun bit, that's the best part. And then just sell it as the only legal way to get it, which they probably will. They'll do it, which is scary. I mean, well, Australia just legalized MDMA therapy and psilocybin therapy. Good, so it's coming. Yeah, but it's super expensive. It's like six grand or something for the meds.

That's a lot of money. Well, and Amanda was mentioning that there was a lot of trepidation in Mexico, so they're actually still doing this procedure in Mexico. Hmm. The drilling holes in the skull. Maybe that's the way trepidation. Trepidation, sorry, trepidation is a different word. Be it is a different word.

Yeah. There might be a lot of that in Mexico, too. Oh, and then talk. So you can go down to Mexico and have them drill a hole in your head. I mean, she didn't get into the specifics of it. She just said there was a lot of it still happening in Mexico right now. See, I didn't know much about it. And but I had heard from somewhere, and I can't remember that it like makes you feel a

little bit high all the time. If you do that. So if you drill a hole in your skull. I guess. I don't know if that's true. I mean, she has a hole in her skull and she kept mentioning that it was a very subtle difference for psychosis. It would create this state of mind that was a little calmer, a little less crazy, basically.

Right. Yeah. But who knows? It's slightly less ego. Yeah, but okay, just take some more LSD then. I don't know about this whole drill and hole in your face. It's so extreme. Yeah.

Well, they could do some research on it. That'd be fine. Would you think about the spider that made a better web on LSD? That was cool. It's pretty dope. And then the spider who they gave weed to, right? Did a pretty good job for a while, but then just got hungry and started eating funnions. And that was it.

Cool, it's so perfect. The caffeine ones weird. You would think caffeine would make a good web. web, but no, it was a total disaster. Well, caffeine is a really, really, really, like, I don't know if it's toxic, but it's very strong. Well, we just do it all the time. If you ate enough of it, I mean, think about coffees like 30 milligrams, you know, maybe 80s,

some of those energy drinks are like 100. That's one tenth of one gram. If you ate two grams of pure powdered caffeine, you'd probably be pretty fucked up. And two grams is tiny. Your heart would explode. You might kill you, yeah. So in a sense, it is toxic. Well, and look at sugar.

You're not thinking of it. Coca-Cola, 37 grams of sugar in one Coca-Cola. I don't even understand that. That's like 10 spoonfuls of sugar. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. How does it even dissolve? How does it stay dissolved? Oh, it just because it does. It dissolves. It would be really impactful though if you had to add the sugar yourself. So you open it up the can and then you have a bag and you just add as much as you want. You would know human. Right. No one would be like, oh, I'm clearly pouring all of this in that. Well, too, think about coolade when we were little. I mean, I remember pouring

heaps of coolade in the in the thing and then stirring it around it never tasted good enough, you pour more sugar in there by the end of it. The whole bottom of the like two inches of the fucking container is just a is just sugar, you got to restart it. Well, as a kid, that's the only drug you can get. Yeah. Is freaking sugar. So of course, we're just all fiends for it. Yeah.

While we wait to get all of this so we can do all the other drugs, move on to alcohol. I did like the, the talk of how they're doing a lot of these MRI brain scans when people are on hallucinogenics and how the different areas of the brain light up. I mean, this is the research that we need to keep doing, right? Because there's a lot more activity that people think. Yeah, and different parts of the brain are lighting up that we maybe wouldn't have thought. We're going to light up like the cerebellum, which they're thinking really only deals with balance and we're going to light up like the cerebellum, which they're thinking really only deals with balance and, you know, uh, not really cognitive function, more just balance and, uh, essentially just not the things

like art or science or math in the other parts of the brain right or left. Sure. And they mentioned that the cerebellum was really firing when they were on psychedelics. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guarantee that if you get drunk and then they scan your brain, it's not functioning well. No, it's dying. Yeah, it's just not even asleep. It wants a burger. It wants a fight. Yeah, it wants to fight. It wants to drive home. Yeah. It thinks it's fine. It thinks it's fine. It's not fine. Get a new birth, folks. Oh, buddy. Yeah, get a new birth. Don't drive drunk. Yeah. Silly. Well, I hope she gets to do a lot more research. It was really cool to have

her on. I don't recommend drilling a hole in your head. I would have to say, don't do that, please, for the love of God. But, you who knows maybe there's a therapeutic thing like if somebody's getting migraines all the time and nothing cures it then it would be great for somebody to have an option and and maybe that's the way. Well look it it's not it's not killing people so you know she said it was like a half hour procedure. It's a very simple procedure. Yeah but once you do it half hour procedure. It's a very simple procedure. Yeah, but once you do it, they can't exactly plug up a job. So be careful. Be careful. All right, let's jump over and finish up with Kila Mike. So the run the Jules playlist is the music that they play at the comedy mothership. I noticed that while we were there.

That's dope. I love run the Jules. So good. It pumps you up like nobody's business. What a cool fucking dude too. Like talking about really cool dudes. Kilomic is badass. I've always appreciated Kilomic especially when he was on the campaign trail with Bernie. He was doing a lot of speeches with Sanders. That's kind of when I started listening to him or I mean it was kind of around the same time started listening to him or I mean it was kind of around the same time that from the jewels was starting to blow up. I had never heard of the band. I didn't realize that it was just two people and they crush. I mean I I think their music is incredible. It's some of the best rap. I think some of the best newer rap because I'm typically go back to the older rap you know because I

grew up with the 90s rap in early 2000s rap but this this is new rap because I'm typically go back to the older rap, you know, because I grew up with the 90s rap, and early 2000s rap, but this is new rap that I really enjoy. Oh yeah. And he's a smart motherfucker. Really is, right? He's a very smart guy, and it was interesting to hear his life story about the growing up in Georgia and having these couple of really good teachers

in that principle especially, would kind of take him aside and hang out with him at lunchtime and really kind of brought him up under his wing. And- That's stuff so important. Realized what a smart kid he was. I mean, even Cubs said something similar

that he was really kind of appreciated for his writing and they put it on the wall. You know, you think if someone's a rapper that they've just had this tough life and they're a badass and then they're just making them music and that's it. But it comes down to these little things. Having those teachers in your life that really kind of encourage you, it makes such a difference. Well, and, too, if you're a good rapper, you have to be smart. You got to write lyrics.

No doubt. Yeah. There's no way any of these guys are dummies at all. Definitely not. That's that's pop stars. That dumb. He said it here. Yeah. So I appreciated this one. I actually like this one better than Amanda Feele.

She was interesting. It was definitely worth listening to. But killer Mike, I was extremely stoked to listen to him because he is, he's a very smart guy. I love how he's doing all the shout outs to everyone he knows in his hometown. Oh, yeah. And then he's mad at that car dealership and he's like blowing him up. Rogan's like, yeah, are you sure we should be blowing up?

He's like, yeah, fuck that guy. I went into buy a car and then they were like, dude, this much and your wife said this. That was great. He's a very optimistic dude though, a very positive guy. Like that's really cool for, you know, kids that have that, like, as a role model, you know, and he's a rapper, like, it just talks a lot about his work, work in his ass off, getting successful, you know, all the difficulties in there. It was a great message, man.

Yeah. And he has a new album which I haven't heard yet so he just came out with it sounds like a solo album oh nice we get to check that out for sure it was funny how he thought being a millionaire isn't rich is it not rich today sounds still sounds like it I guess when we grew up in the 80s if we heard some was a millionaire was like yeah they are that's it was a big deal. Big deal.

And now it's like, you can barely buy a house in Bozeman. I mean, I thought it was a big deal just to go to my, uh, my friend's house that could afford doing paper view and go watch Hulk Kogan on WWF Worldwide wrestling. You know, it's like, if friends could get pay-per-view, that's like where all the kids would go. Oh yeah. Because they have rich parents and they can afford pay-per-view for the night.

For sure. Yeah. And I don't think they were millionaires. No. But still. But they had the biggest house on the block. Yeah. Monty's changed, bro.

So now you need like tens of millions to be cold-rich, maybe. Yeah. But they did say that that's who's going to live the longest with the new technology coming out. If you got hundreds of millions, like maybe Rogan had just lived forever. It's pretty close. He knows all the people that could do it. He'll figure it out. He's gonna. He's gonna. And then CNN will have another article about him and say that it's all bad, make him look old.

I mean, I would at least like to have a hologram for my grandchildren that they could, you know, once I die or my great-grandkids, they could just talk to me. Yeah, well, they could probably take all the audio that we record on this. There we go. They're gonna get the dumbest version of us to talk to like God Granddad really is stupid. Oh, that depends on the day buddy. Come on. All right. All right yourself

Well, I was oh killer Mike though. I yeah, I need to check out his new album. I'm gonna look it up and see what it is Legend he didn't talk about it much. No I talk about it much. No. But, you know, I really appreciate his enthusiasm for changing things, right? Like, he's a positive motherfucker and he's trying to really bring up his community. He kept talking about, you know,

where he grew up in Atlanta and his neighborhood and how he grew up. Growing food, right? How his brother and mother used to grow food. That was really cool to listen to. Like, I wanna start growing food. I wanna. And I'm rather used to grow food. That was really cool to listen to. Like, I want to start growing food. I want to teach people in my neighborhood how to grow food. What you have of his teachers that he talked about who were growing food when he was in

school and how that was really influential. And she had like different diets that she would give the kids at different times of the year because it was like more nutrients and things for colds and it was like medicine through food, which is really how they used to do it, which makes way more sense. Then whatever we have today, here's a pill. Yeah, just eat like shit,

and then here's some cold medicine. Yeah, well done. 2023 science, love it. Well anyway, check out Killamite. He's a badass, great pods this week. Thank you, Todd, as always always and everyone listening. We appreciate you We love you and we're talking next week. Please out