Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 338 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Stephen C. Meyer Et al.

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

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What up, guys. Hey, all. Welcome to this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. Actually, the last one that Todd and I will be doing in person for a while as I'm moving in Knoxville. Don't remind me, buddy. I'm very saddened by that. Sorry, dude. Sorry, dude. I'm sorry.

We're going to do it remotely. We do it remotely. Yeah. We do it remotely. We have the technology. It's going to be a long distance relationship. It'll be so cute. Those always work out very well. Oh, yeah.

They never get, they never a complete mess. All right. Who we got this week? We got, um, who was the comedian, Adrina Lapalucci? She was cool. Yeah. I don't know if I said that right. And then Steven C. My, I thought it was Adrian, but always an Adrian. I do. Adrina never heard of that. Um, just, Adriano Glanda. Pretty sure his name, her name is Adriano. You know what? I may have just like, she's awesome. Boat it into my phones right to, there you go. Note pad thing. Mr. Steven Meyer. I do not have Adrienne's last name though. So I apologize. What's her last name? I thought it was like lap. It's very Italian. My phone does not understand my accent at all.

I don't know if you can set it to like British English for speaking, but it's often a mess when I say people's names. But yeah, anyway, great people. Oh, what is it? Lapa Luchi. I think it's Lapa Luchi. Adrian Lapa Luchi. Love that. Are we starting with Adrian today or are we starting with Mr. Steven Meyer? I'd like to do Steven first.

That one seems like there's more there. There's a lot more there. Well, you know, token of comedians is a lot of fun. I love listening to those. However, going on in Steven's one. Steven's world. There's a lot going on in Steven's one. Steven's world. There's a lot going on in Steven's world. Yeah.

So for the first smart guy, right? And kind of has like, I don't know if this is like, not to say a new take, but I wonder if this is like a re-emerging thought that's coming into science where there's like room for God now or something. What was your take on it? I got to say I was extremely confused by this... The long words, the long words, the losing of that too, but just the combination of science and God in the same sentence alone.

I had never heard anything like that. I've never heard somebody reference, you know, old school philosophers like the guy Newton's law, right? So well, you know, these, well, no, let me finish my talk. So he was talking about the theory, you know, the theory of gravity and Newton, right? And saying that Newton was trying to prove that there was a God when he was talking about gravity, which I had never heard before.

Right, there was a lot of things that I had never heard before out of this guy's, out of all of his statements. But like pretty much everyone back in the day was religious in some, like I get that you Had been we it if you want so even even the scientists and mathematicians and stuff were right But at the time I guess maybe back then yeah, they were thinking that math had a lot to do with God right because math was such a In amazing like pure thing. It was just something that made more sense of the world. Yeah, right?

It made sense of what was going on and so I get how that correlates then but I don't get how it correlates now. Well, yeah, I mean, right? I'm 100% right, Adam? 100% because I don't know. Do your sum walk, right? There's some correct. Nness. Thank you. Thank you But it seemed like his big point was that so there's this This idea that DNA is so complicated right right that double helix if there was a Supercomputer that had a program that ran the probability of life. It's almost like the universe is either not even old enough or even if it went on 100 billion billion years, it wouldn't be enough time for something as complicated as DNA to get created. So? So that, you know, it's like the primordial

soup, it has organic matter in it, right? Organic molecules, anyway, this is before life is created. And then what they taught me in biology is like lightning hit the water, and then all there was like, um, those volcanic eruptions. Yeah, the underneath that created enough heat to mix all these compounds and over time somehow a cell to create some sort of amoeba. You know, like the most basic life, which is an amoeba, right?

You're close, yeah. What is it? I don't know, just a single cell bacteria or a virus or a virus isn't really a a thing that has life in it But I mean it did seem like a big jump It definitely is like how people tell stories when they don't have enough of the information It's always what it felt like to me now. I'm not feeling in the gap like he is but when somebody Comes on and says yeah, there's this missing piece that's just so impossible.

I mean, I get that. I look, I get that. This one was hard for me because you hate religion. No, I hate, I don't want to say hate. I don't hate religion. What I don't like about religion is that it creates war because I'm right, you're wrong. In my mind, religion creates people I'm right, you're wrong. War two. Right, but I appreciate a Joe's comment where he was mentioning that if you are

God and you're all knowing and all loving and you create this universe, why would you create a person or a human being that wants war? And you know, Stephen Myers' response to that is he wanted to give us free will, which is awesome, right? Free will is amazing. That's the beauty of being a human. You do whatever you want. It's pretty good.

You can think whatever you want. In the right circumstances, Joe, Joe also brought up, hey, what about those people who are stuck in prison for something they didn't do? How is that free will? Like that person got totally screwed. Well, that's always a solid argument. Like why is this so much pain?

I mean, it's not like just mild discomfort. Like life for many, many people is incredibly painful. So difficult. So my other point to that is we're mentioning how insane it is to think that this double helix could be created that will create a human life that's different than all other life on earth, you know, compared to animals, right, and mammals. We're a mammal, but we can think, we can speak. No one else can. That we know of. How is it not crazy to think we have this entire universe, right? We're just in the Milky Way and we have all these other billions and billions of galaxies and stars, according to science. How is it any different to think how crazy that is to also think that God had some sort

of creation in this DNA double helix? Like, it's just as crazy to think that this universe was created out of nothing, just in my mind, right? This is me personally. It's just as crazy to think that this universe came out of nothing, or it came out of a big bang or a team out of something crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a great question about what's the craziest sounding, but it's the same thing. Not really.

No, how is it different? He's saying that there are ideas of the math not making sense. He's saying that geneticists, or people that understand evolution are saying that there wouldn't have been enough time or this was so improbable. It's almost like the universe itself is far more probable than life is on its own. Now I don't know shit about that. Life meaning humans or life meaning life. They're just everything here, everything, the got made. Like DNA is such a complicated thing that could replicate itself, that it has genes. He's talking about the idea of different species, right?

So we've all been taught and I was always happy to believe that over time there were mutations, mutations led to different creatures and that's why we have things and then we check that with a fossil record and we do all this business, right? And they were talking about Darwinism here. Yeah, of course. And a lot of other people are on board with this. Well, he's saying, well, mutations don't usually lead to anything good, right? This is why Marvel movies are so fun

because everyone gets zapped with radiation and they turn into a superhero. But usually when that happens, life gets destroyed. Mutations usually lead to things that don't support a creature being any better. And again, I don't know fuck all about it, but to me, that's an interesting thing

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To get 50% off your first box. So yeah, with that in mind, it's like maybe the mutation theory doesn't work well. Like honestly, you know, we're far too dumb for this. maybe the mutation theory doesn't work well. Like, honestly, we're far too dumb for this. So either side of the argument could tell us something, and if they're compelling, we're just gonna start believing what they say, right?

Because we don't have enough info. Well, and we're open-minded. You could change my mind on anything if you give me a good enough freaking response. Yeah, of course. But I would like to know what are they looking at that brings them to this conclusion. Like maybe the way that they look at rates of change of DNA or just the probability of what the first, how many pieces of proteins would need to line up to make the most basic

life form possible? What are the odds of that? I feel like a super computer could do this. So like AI could figure it out. And if the result did come back to where the number was so high, and then we asked the computer, all right, now, guesstimate with random touching of molecules, how long that would take. If it did say something like 100 billion billion years, you would have to kind of question how we've managed to do it so quick. And I think that was what he's trying to say. I wish Joe would have asked him if he thinks Jesus is an alien. Okay, ooh, that would have been a an alien. Ooh, that would have been a good question.

Right. That would have been a good question. Because one of the most compelling things I heard is, you know, you think about universe as being God. And I see myself thinking about that more because I believe in a higher entity, but I don't believe that it's a single entity, if that makes sense. Like, there's something higher, and that's why I believe we have a conscience, right? This is just my own theory of consciousness, and, you know, Steven Meyer talked about how he felt like God was talking to him, and it was out of this world, this experience that he had, and every time he listens to what, in his mind mind is God telling him what to do,

it leads him to a better path, it leads him to a more righteous, meaningful thing. And that's what is good about religion. That's a good thing about religion. People are down and out, they're hurting, get a hope, they get some hope, they believe in something, it makes them, it makes their lives more meaningful.

I mean, at the center of this is meaning, right? We need to have meaning in order to feel fulfilled. That's all it is. And in my mind, when I'm listening to my conscience, is conscious God? I don't know, but there's something in me, and I think in others, that listen to what is being told to them in their own heads when they're, let's say you're meditating or you're just, you know, you're about to fall asleep and there's somebody telling you something in your head, which we've all, I think, equated that to consciousness or your conscience telling you something, not consciousness,

excuse me, your conscience in my mind is this higher power. And whether that's God or not, I don't know. Steven clearly thinks it's God. I think it's just the universe trying to get me as a human to do, to live my best life and to do the most meaningful thing. Well, maybe it's just your brain reacting to a lot of different experiences. So like you have an urge, right, an impulse and you're like, Oh, I really want to do this right now. Like go drink or go on a date or whatever. Sleep with somebody.

Right. And because of the experiences of your life and the times when other people did something similar to you that hurt you directly, you just go, it doesn't feel good, but the impulse is too strong. To me, that argument is just, well, it's just not that compelling because it's just voices in your brain. But what you're talking about, you're talking about, you know,

you mentioned going on a date or, you know, following your impulse, right? That's more impulsive. I'm talking about this intrinsic, like, like, feeling that you always get or that I always get if I know that I'm doing something that isn't following my path. And I don't know what that is. I can't explain what that is in my mind. Are you talking about guilt? No, I'm talking about this feeling that I get, if I'm doing something wrong,

like if I'm not showing up for my friends, or if I'm not, I guess there's some guilt in there, yeah. I could see that. There's some guilt in there, but it's more of a, this feeling, this something that's in you, it as a human that knows right from wrong. There's this right and wrong thing, and maybe I did grow up as a Christian, maybe it comes from that I don't know.

Okay. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I didn't and to me it just seems like when those things happen to me it's just my experience. It's like, yeah, I didn't do my work, I didn't clean my room, I didn't speak to somebody as politely or clearly as I should have. And then, you know, the whole rest of my day is like this kind of guilt cycle of,

I don't know if I'm really just adding up right and wrong because as a small kid, I wouldn't have known the difference. But, you know, I'm an all the person now. So I'm just like, yeah, you know what? I know I should have done all those things. Right. I know them. People are already annoyed. That's the feeling I'm talking about. You have that intrinsic feeling that comes to you where you know what's right or wrong. And you just said you didn't grow up as a Christian. Yeah. Yeah. I get it doesn't it's not about right or wrong. It's just bad in like responses. Right. But you know,

if I don't do those things, generally my life over time will fall apart if I don't do it. Right. So what is that? Is that God? No, it's just experience. Your brain knows this. But according to Stephen, and what he kept saying is that is God telling him something, right? Right. So what he's doing there is making a argument. It's an assumption. Kinda, but he's using this as a point of proof. He's saying, this is why I believe this and this is my proof. Yeah. But I don't, it's his own proof.

Yeah, but it doesn't feel any more compelling than, it seems logical that you, with enough bad input, could just figure it out. Like, how many snakes do you need to meet, to where one of them bites you? And you're like, all right, snakes are real bad. I gotta stay away from snakes. I guess for me,

if God gives you meaning and focus or something to turn towards, right? Like, whether it's right or wrong or devil or, you know, like, there's always, everyone always says, like, there's a devil on one side of you and God on the other. There's like, angel and devil telling you right or wrong, right? But you seek out, I guess I just have this feeling and it seems like you do too. You kind of just know what it is that you need to do in order to feel like you are being

the person you need to be. And I don't know what that is. That could be God to some people. That's probably God to so many people. In my mind, it's just the universe, whatever that means. The universe is telling me that I'm on the wrong path and I need to find my way. Look, I don't know if everyone feels this way. I've always felt that I need to listen to the universe. Is the universe gone? I don't know. But I've always felt like I've known when like, you know, people talk about

serendipitous events, right? Like, I met this person and it was just so weird because I was just thinking about this person and all of a sudden they show up at your doorstep. A lot of that is just coincidence. Totally, totally, but there's plenty of people who don't see that as coincidence. They just see it as this was somebody This is a higher power telling me what to do, right? Sure, okay, but then you know people like to be superstitious and the most stupid stitious people I have a man

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saying. It's like, all that's well and good. But how does that tell you enough to then, you know, start making philosophical speeches that are connecting the two? Like that's what it sounded like Joe wanted to get the bottom of. And I don't know how compelling it was. It wasn't reaching out to me. I mean, feelings of right and wrong, good and bad and what to do and what not to do.

It's like, yeah, or maybe, but if that was built into all of us, people would do a better job in general. Yeah, but I do think it's built into all of us. Right, I, again, I'm gonna go with my own theory and I own thought. Okay, it's like we are God in what way though? We are us is don't feel like bad about things they do and neither the associapot. Okay, true.

I'm not seeing everyone feels this way. I feel like a majority of us and again, there's no science behind this. This is just a thought that I have that we have a consciousness that is telling us to follow something. There's something there. We have to listen to it. We can't deny. I have a hard time thinking that if we asked anyone on the street, do you have this voice inside your head that knows right from wrong? Or do we have this voice inside our head that we feel like is pulling us in a certain direction? We can listen to it or not listen to it, but I feel like it's there. Okay, and you think that's God? No, I think that's the universe. I think that's the universe.

You don't think that's just our brain functioning through our lives to kind of orient us to not kill ourselves or die. I don't know. I mean, maybe back in the day, our brain was less, you know, feelings based, right? So like it was, our brain was telling us you have to hunt for food or you're going to die, right? And it was like different back in the day. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying, you know, when we were hunter-gatherers, okay, you know, 100,000 years ago,

I don't think someone was thinking, what's right or wrong. They were thinking, I need to eat tonight. Well, they might have been thinking, what's right for the wrong for them, or the family, them or their family. I don't know. But Stephen keeps mentioning that, you know, he's, for example, he's drawing, he's drawn to passages in the Bible and things that relate to revelations in his life that he needed

to hear, okay? Right. He's just focusing on something that he read and that he's making a reference to that when he feels something in his soul or somebody telling him something that's out, outerworldly, if I can't think of a better word for this right now, but like something other than his wife or his kids or friends telling him what to do, there's something telling him what to do. And he is relating that to what he has read.

That's just, in my mind, that's just something that happens when you're constantly thinking about being a better person, right? Yeah. I'm just saying it wasn't that compelling. We know it's not that compelling. Even if, in my mind, it seems interesting. and it's like, okay, you got this feeling. But do you get that feeling?

Do you get that feeling where something is telling you, and I don't know what it is, whether it's the universe or God, or, you know, when you're sitting in your bed at night, there's, you have thoughts in your head, is something? Is there a higher power? And when I say higher power, I just mean something, telling you to do something, like this urge to do something different, what is that? Because I get that. Yeah, I feel like it was, it's just like, you have a job that you hate and you know it,

but you have compromised yourself a lot because you need money and you're not brave enough to go start your own business or do something else. So you work for someone like most people do. And a lot of times when you work for somebody, you don't like it. Or you're dating someone and you're stuck in a relationship you don't like. And it just feels bad. Basically, all that's happening is in the day that while you're awake, you're stuck in a relationship you don't like. And it just feels bad. Basically, oil that's happening is in the day

that while you're awake, you're getting a negative response from it. It's a feedback that you constantly are getting. Yeah, and your brain is trying to keep you safe. So it's like, hey, those people suck. And the person you're dating sucks. You need to jump away from it. But you can't do it because it takes a lot of bravery.

And it's very difficult. Leaving your job or your spouse or whatever is hard, right? So it just gives you this message. Right. And what is that? We don't know. It's keeping you away from people that suck. But it's like your brain is going to do that. Right.

That's what I would want my brain to do if we were just machines. It's trying to keep you away from something that sucks. But most people just deal with the suck. Right. But I don't see how it would need to be the universe, or God, or separate than just your brain doing it. It feels like that's what it would do.

It's only designed to keep you safe. Okay, but if you look at animals, in an animal's brain, as far as I can tell, they know what to do. They are always, they have this instinct ability to get food. They have this instinct ability to, you know, provide for their young, right?

It's like, it's in, it's, it's in them. It's part of their DNA. They don't, it's part of their DNA, but they don't have as much distractions as we do. But it's part of their DNA, right? It's part of something in them that creates this innate ability to do the things that they are supposed to do to survive. Right. It's just a survival response. Okay. So why is our survival response more, I guess, in tune to being better people?

I don't know. I don't know the answer, but there's something there. Is that God? Is that there's, it seems to me like there's a higher power. Right. I see what you're saying. Right. It might just be the way more communal. You know, like penguins all work together in a big giant group. They probably have that feeling too. I love penguins.

You don't want to be the asshole penguin. So they know that they got to work together. Yeah. Well, we're social creatures. You know, yeah, we need, we need, we need, love, we need connection, we need community. I mean, love is the big one, right? Love is kind of the thing that if you think about life in general, that might be the most compelling argument for a God all for the

universe. I love that. Love that. Because that one is like, well, you know, the need for love or the want for it. Maybe it is just a response that is like, well, you know, the need for love or the want for it. Maybe it is just a response that is like, yeah, it means that your community is not kicking you out. So you're behaving the right way. You're respected by your peers. So that's a good start. That will increase your ability to survive. Right.

And it's less, you're less likely to be attacked just in general. So you have less reason to fear. So therefore, lower depression, lower anxiety, right? And maybe that's the response of what? And this also goes back to tribal communities, right? Like even way back in the day. You need to. Oh, super born then.

Well, yeah, you have to focus on your community. Let's like they say, you know, it takes a village, right? Like back, you know, not too long ago, right? We're talking three, four hundred years, five hundred years ago. It was so much more communal than it is now, at least in the, in the States, in the United States. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the... Pilgrims. No, with the Native Americans, thank you.

Native Americans are very communal, right? They focused on community, they focused on helping each other with all of the tasks that needed to happen. And then for whatever reason, we somehow became this one for all kind of, you know, the society that only cared about themselves. Yeah, it's much easier now to be individualistic, which is a problem in my mind. Yeah, I don't think that that's good for people in general, like to not have community. And, you know, you add in things like, oh, working out tonight and pulling, or, you know,

doing hard things is not important because we've made things a lot easier. And I think a lot of that is just taking us away from really what, in a sense, our DNA is telling us, hey, you're going to feel better and function better if you strive for these difficult things. Or to help one another. To help one another. Right. Again, for community difficult things. Or to help one another. To help one another. Right, again, for community though.

Yeah, think about how good it feels when you help someone. Right? Or think about how good it feels when you stop thinking about making money and stop thinking about me, me, me, right? Get that, it's the ego. Right, yeah. And to me, ego is really what,

it's like the, if we're talking about the devil and God, right, if we're talking about Jesus and Satan, or God and Satan, in my mind, Satan is ego, right? It's this primorial feeling that I can do better. I am better than somebody, right? I don't know where that comes from. So you, like, don't get this. We got to flip over to someone else, but are you agreeing with his point? Or do you just feel like you are driven and run by something that's bigger and outside of you? Yes. I just feel like you are driven and run by something that's bigger and outside of you. Yes.

I just feel like there's something else out there. Then why wouldn't you listen to it? I did listen to it all the time. That's how you run your life. I would say that there is a, in my mind, there is a higher power that knows more than I do, and I don't know what that is. That's all I can say.

There's something there, and again, you're leaning in the direction of where he's coming from. I'm not leaning in the direction of that there's a God. I'm leaning in the direction of, there is something out there in this universe that has maybe more control than we do. And I don't know what that is. Yeah, I mean, that's, I also believe in the big bank theory. Like, I believe that we came from nothing. I don't think it was somebody in the clouds, like snap in their fingers, like,

on the seventh day, there was frickin' sun or what, I don't even know because I'm not, I don't follow the Bible, but. But chimichangus.ichangus on the seven days we went to chilies and asam chimichangus yeah no he rested seven days rest all right that's Sunday he was done but it look it was six days I I really did enjoy this conversation it was great it was hard to follow there was a lot of information I think Joe was having a really hard time following Stephen, but I think Joe did an amazing job of questioning him. I feel like Joe got just wanted him to clarify some points. And you know, they went on some tangents and he only wanted to stick mostly to his area of specialty and not speak out of turn.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, when people come on Joe's show, he's like, I just want to know who you are, dude. Well, I want to know what you think. I want to know what you think. I want to know what you think about this higher power. Real quick. Give it time.

We'll switch over to Adrian. I mean, look, he wasn't compelling with the voices in his head thing. That didn't work for me. To me, it just seems like a lot of stimulus response stuff, but maybe that's a boring way of looking at it. The probability factor, I like those, because they're more mathematical. Right? So if they're, you know, and not to say that I have to wait for a super computer to do the math and then

Tell me or everybody. Oh, yeah, this is actually impossible. But there's something interesting there, you know It's like if we had a simulation Right, so a super computer running a simulation with organic molecules, which is just like Carbon chains. Yeah from Astero to see if it created and I mean into a planet, right to, which is just like carbon chains from ashore to see if it created light. So I mean into a planet, right? To see if it created light. Exactly, and we speed it up.

And then we run 100 million of them. And it wouldn't matter how many we run for how long assuming the program was correct, every time it took 100 billion years to do it and our universe is way younger. That is interesting. Right. That to me says, oh, well something's missing.

Right. It doesn't mean I have to believe in God for it, but it's like, okay, there's something missing there. Right. Well, it's like the thing that McKenna said, right? It's all about science and reason except for one big miracle. Right. So yeah, but there's always gonna be an explain stuff. Yeah, it's always gonna be unexplained things nothing comes from nothing, baby I thought it was super thought provoking. I have to say that absolutely like it There were parts of it that I was like oh, I'd never even considered that

Which is why we love her, Ogan, baby. Yeah, come on. Bring it on. We wouldn't have read this on around this week. Absolutely not. All right, let's jump over to what was her name again? Adrian. Adrian. Yeah.

Adrian. Oh, she had a tough start in comedy. Having to pay to be at an open night, dude. Oh, God. For what? What? Stod in comedy having to pay to be at an open night dude for what she say 10 hours Oh, she would work for free and then maybe get a five-minute slot see that is Some fucking dedication people that's how you get good and here's the thing I haven't seen her do stand up number one Joe has over the club and Said she's very funny. So for me that would be enough

club and say she's very funny. So for me, that would be enough. A comedian at his level, you know, recommending anybody else that they're gonna be good. However, you start hearing those stories and that they stuck at it. I mean, that's like, you know, that's how diamonds have forged. You know, I like that. Well, think about how difficult that would be. Would you work for 10 hours for free to maybe do five minutes? To get into the playboy mansion, maybe. Right.

Okay. That's a different type of five minutes. And you only have five minutes, so you got to work fast. You got to work fast. Yeah, it depends on who you're working for. For half maybe. Yeah, I don't even know how she was able to like, to just live her life and do that.

I mean, maybe she had another job other days, but that is dedicated. I mean, it looked, it seemed to me like her dedication for a long time was trying to get an SNL. Yeah, right. That was, that was her priority. That's what she originally thought. I mean, it seemed to me like her dedication for a long time was trying to get an SNL. Yeah. Right. That was her priority. Well, that's what she originally thought. I don't know if she pursued it that hard.

She was just like, I like SNL. Her mom was like, well, then you need to be a stand up. So she just kind of focused on stand up and then did that. Right. But when she was doing those 10 hour stints for $0, she was in that mindset still. I want to get on SNL, right? I think. I think by then she was probably just sold on standup. You know, but she got in with the right people. I mean, Ari, Shafia, Gavirash out at the

Rogan, like, you got to check this person out. Yeah. You know, anyone that gets on well with Ari is a legend because it's Aerie. I like saying Aerie. I didn't know much about Aerie or Aerie. I really want to say it, okay, tomato tomato. He- That's the British way of saying it. It was fun to hear some of her, I guess, some of her, basically her relationship with Ari is a lot closer

than I had known. I didn't know they were friends, but saying how Ari would just, what did you say that he went into her ex-husband's house. He was in her ex-husband's house and his computer was open and his email was still on. Something like that. And he and Ari went into his email and emailed Adrian from her ex-husband's email some weird shit like saying let's get back to you. That's so fucked. He is such a fucker.

And it's so funny. He's such a fucker. It's so funny. Only like, he's some people do that type of shit, but he's pure comedian through and through. Like he can really sit in the place of discomfort because he throws something out or he fuck with someone or he dose up but at his house.

And like whatever the consequences are, Ari is ready. Yeah. He's ready to do it. And he just takes it on. I don't know why he chooses that. It seems really unusual, but it is very entertaining. And maybe he just truly just, in a way, doesn't give a fuck. It's not like people are turning that back on him.

I mean, they like him. They love that guy. She did mention that if you were to speak to Ari directly to his face and say, Hey, I don't want you to do this. He won't do it. But if you, but if you don't say anything, he's going to do whatever the fuck he wants to get a laugh. Yeah. Like what he was there was something you you were character man. Rogan was saying he took a shit in a, in a, bulkhead or something and put it on stage. Oh yeah, top of why. What a weirdo. To like skank fast or something.

What a weirdo. Well, you know, and I didn't know. He's very popular. So it works. This is getting off subject from majoring but just for a minute, I did not realize that Ari was so entrenched in Judaism. Like, I didn't realize he grew up so strict with the religion.

Oh, yeah, I didn't know that. It makes so much more sense why he put out the Jew YouTube, right? The special that he did. Well, I think he was like, he's acidic. Like, is big. Like, is it gets? Big time. And that's how he was raised, he's acidic. Like his big, big, big time. And that's how he was raised. And he got to a point where, for whatever reason, for him, it didn't fit. And he moved

away. And now he sees life in a very unusual, I mean, imagine that perspective. That's probably what makes him so fucked up. Such massive indoctrination, you know, into what this, there's one way to be and this is the only way. Right. And now he's free to just say whatever he wants. I mean, so he's going to get a little crazy because he's hasn't done that most of his life. Half of his life, he was, it was so strict.

Yeah, yeah. So it makes sense why you would do such crazy things now. It's, it's, you know, he's on unusual person so does Adrian have any specials or anything going? I don't remember what she said she just filmed one at The comedy mothership so she's been opening for a CK for a while Okay, that's right. I've heard her name a few times even though I said it incorrectly, but I have heard of a and heard her name a few times, even though I said it incorrectly, but I have heard of her. And I heard that Louis had this person that was just crushing opening for him. And I just didn't get a chance to watch it yet.

But I mean, if you're on the road with Louis, I mean, let's just talk about the impact of who Louis CK is. I mean, when he went to Rogan's club and walked around and gave suggestions, Rogan was like 100% everything you say would just do. Yeah, make the stage smaller, right? Lower the ceiling. What did you think about? I really appreciated her reminiscing about getting kicked off of not only one, but two different.

Oh charity events. Comedy charity events. Yeah. And that, I mean, I can't remember the first one why she got kicked off, but the second one, it sounded like it didn't hit as bad because she had already been kicked off of one of her. Well, she made the pedophile joke. The pedophile joke. Yeah.

Pedophile. Yeah, yeah. That's what we say this in England. Okay. Well, it's, you got to keep spelled with a D, bro. It'sophile joke. Yeah. Pedophile. Yeah, that's how we say this in England. Okay, well, it's, you gotta keep me spelled with a D, bro. It's spelled with a D. Yeah, P. There's only one E, not two. Pedophile joke. We like to pedophile. All right. So she made a P pedophile joke. Yeah, and it was like the poor, poor, uh, head of file. It, you know, that's just gross, but if you do it on a yacht,

like, if you're, if you're loaded and you do it on the yacht, it's okay. If any, even if the children get younger, and it happened to be someone there that did that. So everyone got bugged. She had no idea. She didn't know. She didn't know.

Also, that's a good joke. It's a great joke. It's a great, good joke. So just that joke alone makes me really like her because look we all hate petafiles We all hate hate hate hate petafiles there. It's crazy But to joke about this that's comedy. Yeah, it's common take a joke and that's why it's called a fucking joke I would say those people that didn't laugh in that audience that were pro pedophile pedophile pedophile They have to be

Because why would you not laugh? What are you sticking up for the guy that owns the yacht? I didn't care for that at all I wish I wish I was there, but it's the same as you know why comedians now don't do College events. Yeah, they don't do college events. Yeah. They don't go to colleges anymore. Nobody wants to. People are too liberal. Well, they just get in wacky.

Or just, you know, people are taking offense to too many things and not realizing that it's a comic talking. We're not, this isn't fucking some scientist on a speech to the community. I mean, but think about it if it was, right? fucking some scientist on a speech to the community. I mean, but think about it if it was, right? I mean, if it was Steven Mayer going into a place that was like mostly non-religious people and he's just giving his philosophy,

should they shout him and boom off the stage? No. Absolutely not. They absolutely shouldn't. Absolutely not. So what did you think about her Adrian mentioning how this resonated with me about how you know you're in a marriage, you're in a relationship, whatever, and you live in separate houses or you sleep in severed beds.

Because I've been thinking about this a lot. I was recently divorced and I was thinking about how you think that would be better. No, I was just I've been recently thinking about how if we were to co-parent meaning if I were to ask my ex-wife now, let's say we were still married, if I were to ask her, hey, you take the kid for the weekend, go hang out with your, or if I were to take the kid for the weekend and she were to go hang out with your, or if I were to take the kid for the weekend and she were to go hang out with her friends, have that weekend to herself. If we did that every once in a while, I'm not saying every week,

but if you gave each other that time and that energy to be themselves and to be with other people and to not be with each other all the time, I think the divorce rate would go way down. Probably true, right? I just recommend marrying rate would go way down. Probably true. I just recommend marrying someone you want to be around. That too. Obviously, there's a lot of nuances to that.

But thinking about living in separate homes, that's something I never thought about. I don't know if that's the right way, but it was interesting to think about because it might help relationship. For some, but you're not really married then. I mean, I guess legally, but like what's the point of being together? Right.

You just live in different homes. I'd live with you. We, you can live in the pool house. How about that? Oh, you got a pool. I see you. No, I see you now. You got a pool.

I'm in. All right, let's go. All right, on that note, we are done. I see you. Nice. You got a pool. I'm in. All right. Let's go. All right. On that note, we are done. Listen to these two. This comedian is great.

And that philosopher is interesting as how I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. Are you more religious? Do you believe in God now? Or was that all nonsense? Hard to know. Todd, it's been a pleasure. We've done a year of pods here. I love you to death.

Love you, buddy. We're doing them remotely. Keep the podcast studio here alive. And thank you to everybody that listens and puts up with us. We don't know what we're talking about, but we have a good time. And I'm so glad that you guys are here for the ride.

Let's do it. Love that. All right, peace peace out y'all