Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 339 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Mark Andreason Et al.

Episode Date: July 28, 2023

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn. Might either be the worst but casual that that's one of the best ones. One, go. Enjoy the show. All right, folks. I am doing the intro today.

This is Todd Motherfuckin' Heath with Adam, Motherfuckin' Thorn, all the way in Knoxville. I am in Adam's seat today here in Bosangeless. I'm in the happy hour studio. Adam is in some sort of weird closet room or something in his new house in Knoxville. So I'm in a closet room. I am in one. Yes. Welcome to the JRE review today. We have Mr. Mark Andrews. And I think we're going to spend a little bit more time on him today because that was a fascinating Super dorky talk. I mean mark is a frickin mad

Scientist when it comes to this stuff the guy is clearly knows what he's talking about and then we have Mr. Tony Woods coming all the way From Russell Simmons deaf jam back in the day if any of you remember That stuff was amazing back in the 90s. He's a legend dude. Total legend. Hellarius. Total. So yeah, two two great shows this week that we're covering. We're going to start with Mr. Mark and Driesen. If you guys haven't messed around with AI, you got to do it. You're you're losing're losing time here because this shit is every day is getting crazy. Well, it's the first time in history you can actually be called a nerd for not messing with some computer bullshit. Well, if somebody said to me, I've not even looked at chat GBT, I'd be like,

dude, nerd, it's wrong with you. Get it. Well the last three times outsourcing all of your work I feel I mean, I feel like the last three times I've used it. It was too crowded and I couldn't get on oh But that's probably because I didn't pay for the for the you know bonus account Right to pay if you want to get on better, but either way what what was your biggest 20 bucks? What was your biggest takeaway from this one? I have one. Do you have one? Oh, excuse me. Well, I really liked the mid-journey stuff, honestly. Only because you and I have messed with mid-journey a little bit, like you do, you make magazines and newspapers and publications. So it's like an interesting and you're a graphic designer.

So you're like, oh, you know, it's all about what you're doing. I see that a lot when I was in the studio. And, you know, to me, it was always super interesting. It was like, wow, I can't do this. I can't do anything like that. I don't know how to use, I can barely use PowerPoint. But now all of a sudden this thing is created. And you can just type it in.

And it's like honestly, the image is it creates, it's like, it's better than what I was seeing from people that produce graphics. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are scared about jobs and this and that, it's gonna create new jobs, but honestly, from what I can tell, the artists specifically, especially, you know, for all the content that's coming out these days, you need a quick fix.

A lot of people are using stock imagery shit like that. Why would you do that if you can pay $89 a year now, type something in 40 seconds later, you've got something super sweet, and it's only getting better every fricking second. Wait, it's $189, I thought it was free of that. No, the mid-journey was $89, dude, for the year, though. Oh, okay, I see. Typically, the cheapest you can really pay an artist for like a full page illustration, right, would be like $600.

Wow. You know, and that's, you know, a cool illustration from somebody that works for cheap. I mean, the guy that I'm thinking of is from South America, so that's probably way cheaper than it would be if you were working with someone from the States. Right. And, you know, you and I have messed with the prompts. If any of you guys don't know what we're talking about, mid-journey is the AI tool that creates artwork. So you prompt it something, you type in, hey, you know, the other day I made an ad for the magazine,

it was a dinosaur, I just typed in T-Rex, you know, smashes 80s computer room, and it showed like some old school computers and it kind of like stylizes it as almost like comic book style I feel like it does that a lot, but you can also Because you probably didn't put a specific prompt in right? Well, so what if you say like pop out or I mean you you can keep specifying as much as you want. Totally, totally. And yeah, and I'm getting better at that, but yes, I have seen photorealistic stuff

where it looks like a photograph. If you say photorealistic picture of a T-Rex, you will get one. Or of a girl with blonde hair, blue eyes, stylized. Three breasts. Total recall. Total recall.

You can do whatever you want. That's crazy. All right. Well, let's get it. Let's get into the notes with Andrew reason, because so so my biggest takeaway. So yours was mid-jewel. Yeah. And how cool is that?

What do you got, Todd? Dude, I mean, it all makes sense, right? And I didn't think about it until listening to Mark, but they're trying to control it, man. Once again, call me a conspiracy theorist, but you've got these companies, and it makes sense, right? They want, it's like it reminded me of that dude

who got busted with the infetomines, that that frickin' dorky kid who was living in the Bahamas Sam ATX guy. ATX. Yeah. What is his name? I always wanted his damn name. Remind him of him because he wanted regulations on what he was doing in the Bitcoin business,

so that he could be in charge of it basically. You get the three big guys, and if there's no open source AI, they're going to keep controlling it. I mean, it's already controlled. Sometimes you type in something and it won't give you an answer. It doesn't give it to you because someone, somewhere, is still at the reins of this. And so until it's completely open AI, which sounds like Musk, I didn't realize Musk was behind Open AI and it all started when he was talking to Who is it Larry the dude one of the dudes who owns Google? Yeah, the Google guy. What a misspeciesist. Yeah, speciesist. He brought that up last time when Mark was on a few months ago It's so dumb. What a stupid dumb thing to say

Like are you gonna say that when the aliens get here? Be like, don't be a species this dude, and it's like they are wiping us out Slow down. Well, and think about what Google does already if you compare You know us a search on duck duck go Compared to a Google search duck duck go is gonna give you way more of a broad understanding of what it is and AI is doing the same thing if it's open AI Right like people using Chat GPT now as a As a server. I mean or excuse me not a server of a search engine

So no wonder Google's flipping the fuck out dude. They're gonna go on a business. It's already taking over Beta mostly the search chat GPT for info. I mean, don't get me wrong. If you want a specific website, fine. But if you're just looking for like real information, or answers to questions, or I mean, chat GPT is so much more versatile. I mean, you know, I mean, Mark was answering the question, like, you know, is it alive? You know, is it like thinking or whatever? Yeah, and he goes, he goes, no, AI is more like a puppy than a person. Right? It just wants to please you. It's just cute. You know, it's not like thinking on its own. It's not trying to destroy you. It's just, it's just going, what do I think that they want?

And here's the probability factors. And that's a really good way of looking at it. And honestly, unless people that are freaking out know something else I don't, which I'm sure they do, because it's Elon Musk and others, I mean, they're way smarter. What they're probably doing is bridging the gap between what we have now and some other version that is more have now and some other version that is more sent to you protective. Yeah, well, it's just kind of like, you know, at the end of the day, to make it alive, we have to model it after things that are living, which have self preservation. So until they like program self preservation into

it, it's just going to be a tool. But if they start designing it, because they're like, oh, we have to make it like a life form. And this is all we know about life forms, then it will protect itself and do other messed up things. But right now, it's just like a servant, you know, just like an employee that's like a good one, just does what you want. Now, so is open AI actually open or because I feel like that because open AI was is chat GPT right? That's the same company. Yeah. Yeah. So it was supposed to be right. That was the idea. That's why Elon gave him, I don't know, a hundred million, 300 million, whatever he gave him. He was supposed to be open. But now the program has gone private.

It was supposed to be open, but now the program has gone private. They still covered Open Eye, which is hilarious because it's not. I mean, I pay him 20 bucks a month to use it. So I'm just interested in what it is. And they've obviously put a lot of restrictions on. I mean, one that comes up a lot is, it only has knowledge until September of like 2021, I think. So like if you're asking more current event stuff, for some reason, they've put that limitation on that. So it doesn't know why.

It doesn't know what happened yesterday or today or the day before. You said two months. Technically no. Two months, it does. Two months back or a year back. No, no, 2021, dude. Weird. Yeah, it's almost two years ago, and I don't know why it's doing that. I don't You know, I maybe is so we can't like be rewriting news Maybe that was like a concern, you know, because people people could just stop making newspapers immediately

They could be like take everything everything in the New York Times and change it all around to be really Republican. And then people could just stop printing those newspapers. Don't give away our ideas at them. Okay. Well, we've talked about this. It's only a matter of, but maybe that's why right? Maybe it's a safety thing. But again, you know, it's like, who, the problem will always be, who is deciding what the limitations should be, right?

I mean, obviously you don't want to be like, how can I manipulate all my friends and take all their money? And it gives you like this detailed plan to come up with a pyramid scheme and trick them into it. There could be problems. There's a lot of people out there. Well, look at what I- But ultimately, controlling shit is a problem too, man.

Here's the thing. And you look at- Well, yeah. Well, there's a lot here. There's lots on pack here, Mr. Thorne. But- That's on pack. 1984 is one of my favorite books.

I'm glad that Mark brought it up, but I did not realize there was another author. I didn't get the author's name, but he wrote another, basically a sequel or sorry, yeah, sequel to 1984. It was taking that same idea that you're being watched all the time by someone like Big Brother. but then reverse in 1985. I don't know what you called it. Hold on. Well, it wasn't written by Orwell. So Orwell is the original writer. He's already dead by the time this other book got written. Okay. I'll have to look it up. But there actually is a 1985. Maybe it's called 1985. Georgie daylos. What is it? What's the what does it say? It says 1985 is a sequel for Georgia All-Rells novel 1984 written by Hungarian author

Goodgurly Dallas. Okay. We're originally published in 1983 Sonora begins novel begins with the death of the big brother reflects So the one he was talking about is, you know, big brothers watching you, but they reverse it so you can also watch the government. So everyone's watching each other and that, right, in turn created radicals who then overthrow, because they realize what's going on is totally messed up and then they take over, right? So if we were to know what our government is trying to hide from us, we would probably do the same thing, but we don't. Right, we have theories.

We think we don't trust them. I mean, he pointed out that since basically since Nixon, you know, was in the Watergate scandal that everyone Since the 70s does not like trust the government, right? There used to be a lot of faith and trust. The weird thing was is that they that people somehow have this, you know, candy, cane, and fucking rainbows about the military, right? But I think that's just because everyone knows someone who's been in the military, so we have to support it, right?

Even though we don't want to support war, we want to support the people who are doing it. So that makes sense. But, you know, what happens when we find out more, right? And that, to me, is the biggest scare for this OpenAI, right? Because it's going to know so much more than we know. It's going to find things so much quicker, right? It's going to do mathematical equations that are unheard of.

It's already happening with the quantum computers. And so, I think they're just freaking out. You know, it's just gonna be this controlled state. You would say that they would be that bad. Like, imagine, imagine if we're like at war or going to war. And then people can just write in chat GBT like, Hey, why are we going to war? And then it looks at documents and somehow it even pulls classified documents

off the line. So let's say it's the first Gulf War, or the second one, weapons of mass destruction. So you type in, that's what the government's telling us, oh, they've got nukes, watch out. So we just type in chat, GPD, why are we going to war? And it's like, actually, there's no nukes. We just want their oil and control it. Yeah. And then the government's fucked. They're like, damn it. We were trying to lie about this in a fun way. And now nobody believes us. And how much did Cheney make off that war billions? I mean, he's pretty rich. Just a little bit. Yeah. Well, that brings you know, you know, other than, you know, he's pretty rich. Just a little bit. Yeah, well, that brings you know, you know, other than, you know, it's like, it

just, it just suggests to me that anyone that wants to control it and not only control it, but, but kind of sensor it mm-hmm is worried about regular people finding out some information about them. Of course, there's that, but there's also the need to control people and not give them real information, right? The beauty of censorship in lots of people's minds, aka our government, who probably doesn't want us to know a lot of things, they can control, just like 1984, they control the narrative, it's propaganda.

They want us fighting each other. They don't want us to know what the fuck's going on because we might actually revolt and we all have guns in America. So it's kind of a scary thing for them. Well, we might be upset at what their real intentions are. We might be like, nah dude, you're not really out there protecting us.

You've actually got your own thing going on. You know, maybe they just don't trust us to make the decisions. I mean, they don't want us to make the decisions. They want to keep making decisions. Right. That's what a democracy is. Right.

Sadly for them. It's like tough guys. Pretty crazy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's part of the censorship and that's why it's coming in and Yeah, what did you think about the San Francisco thing like the connection that San Francisco is basically like the mecca to like MK Ultra it's like the hippie movement also Silicon Valley, Google, a lot of creative shit.

There's also an app there where it shows where homeless people are taking a dump. I mean, a lot of interesting things coming out of SoundFram. And I had heard that Jim Morrison's dad was the head of military operations for the Navy. I forgot about that. But there was another conspiracy theory about the doors, you know, Jim Morrison being in this band to basically, yeah, yeah, well, we get to that in a second. Yeah. That goes, that goes more back to, uh, uh, uh,

Yeah, Lennos, um, like military base that he bought. But yeah, what do you think there's any significance to the San Francisco thing? I don't know. It's hard to say. I mean, it seems kind of wild. I mean, are there other things connected? Probably not, but it's pretty interesting that it all came from that place. I think it was a place where radical people hung out and when radical people hang out,

or anti-war, Nixon spun that to create this hippie movement where drugs are bad, and he basically used it against, the hippies to make everyone think that they're just a bunch of drug idiots, right? I don't know if it was, I think it was planned by Nixon. I don't think the hippies had any fucking clue what they were doing, but yeah, MK Ultra, didn't, we didn't know about that until what 40 years after the fact. When did that shit come out, D, D classified?

Oh, I don't know. Probably like, in the 2000s, I'd imagine. I mean, I didn't realize that he was saying that the clean cut people were coming out at first anti-war clean cut. And then Nixon was freaking out. He wasn't going to get elected again and keep that war. And so that's when they started, you know, pinning everything on the hippies and they're just a bunch of idiot freaks who are high on acid all the time. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name. Don't listen to my name.

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I have. I've been there. Beautiful spot. I wouldn't live there. I don't really care for San Fram. It's, I liked going to the pier. Like, pier's were cool. You're such a tourist.

You know, the architecture's pretty cool. Yeah, I went, I did touristy stuff. Okay. But like the rest of it was just like kind of a grungy, getting around, like a pin in the ass, you know, up and down those hills. I'm like, what are you gonna have a bike? What are my Lance Armstrong?

Again, I'm that. Yeah. If you train in Colorado, you can go to San Francisco and just be on point, because the air is so point because there's the air is so thick right there by the ocean. What did you think about this idea that maybe Kubrick made that video of the fake bomb? If we know it's really so that that shit was crazy. He wouldn't have done the fake bomb because that would have been in the 40s. All right. But Kubrick may have done the moon some footage on the moon landing.

They know that he was in there for that. Like he was in where? Well, they had like a studio set up, which was supposed to be like a training area where they were recording a lot of footage. And they brought Kubrick in. It's like, I just feel like it's pretty lame that after his death, he didn't like make another film that he could release that like showed what he did if he in fact did fake a lot of that footage. Well, you know, the government found all those files and stole them just like Tesla, bro.

That's my that's my theory. They would have been on that because he I'm sure he wrote about it if he actually Did in fact do that Which quite a few people think Don't know we'll never we'll never know maybe I would tell going back to that that area that Jared Leno is it let what's his last name Leno? that area that Jared Leno, is it what's his last name? Leno? Lato. Jared?

Lato. Lato. Lato. Lato. Lato. So he buys this like, you know, old military installation. And it's a place where like you were saying earlier, these military people were positioned and a lot of their kids became like huge musicians, which is really kind of interesting. The rebellion against their militant

fathers. Yeah, and it was like film studios in there. So, you know, what were they filming? Like definitely propaganda for all sorts of shit. Like that's what they would do, right? This is like what they're up to. Yeah. And then look at some of those, I'd never even thought about the nuclear blast off. Mm-hmm. You know, and they're trying to say that the camera was underground

and there were tubes and mirrors and all the rest of it. I mean, all right, maybe. I don't know enough about how that works, but it doesn't seem likely. Does it? Wouldn't just like everything get blasted away. Even like, even if it's a mirror, the mirror has to face the blast, something has to face the blast, and we get all messed up. Yeah, I mean, that's what's not even just got blown away. It's like the bullshit theory about, you know, using mirrors to put, to bring light into the fucking catacombs in Egypt.

Oh, yeah, I was just thinking that. That's a good example. Zero cents. Zero. Well, we got, we got bets of mirrors today. Good still. It's not like how many fucking mirrors do you need? It doesn't make sense.

I mean, if they knew how powerful the bomb was, which they did, or at least it was, they were close to knowing if they wanted to just scare the Russians, it makes sense that they would do that. It makes way more sense than actually just filming an actual bomb and being close to it. 100%. Yeah. Did you actually watch this part, or did you just listen to it? Did you watch the footage on the... I actually did, I stopped it and watched on this one. Yeah, it doesn't look real at all when he pointed out the car. Right, did he point it, like Rogan was saying that the car didn't move at all? Yeah, what was that about?

It's just like all the buildings were demolished and then fuck I wish I could pull it up right now Yeah, there was just like a car there. I was trying to look at a clip right now, but I can't find one But yeah, it was just right there. I mean, it just looked weird. I'd never even thought about that Like I guess was so inclined to believe what the government tells us that I, you know, it's like how many other things do we go back and think about that that are probably bullshit? Don't get me started on 9-11, bro. Oh, even though we can't even afford it. We're not doing it.

We're going to get demonetized. All right. So maybe 9-11 wasn't a fake thing, but there's a lot of question marks. Okay. There's a lot of question marks with the moon. There's a lot of, that's all I'm saying. And I think we're allowed to have question marks, dude. Lots of question marks. That's all that's all anyone's really saying. And to say it's factor fiction, I don't know, you know, I, I, I like to side on, I need to see all the facts before I can make an assumption or a critical

decision, whatever you want to call it. But I think when it comes to AI, and I think a lot of why he was talking about the moon landing and these videos and stuff, because our government has always fed us propaganda. I mean, they told us marijuana was bad for us and it made us crazy. And, you know, Mexicans were smoking it and killing people. You know, the reefer madness is like such a fucked up piece of propaganda. And not only what 20 years before they were growing hemp to make rope for the fucking war. So, you know, they can flip on a dime, whatever works for them in their agenda, right? And so, I think the scariest thing about AI, especially for our kids, you know, your

lady's pregnant right now, I have a three-year-old, we're already having such a hard time deciphering what's real and what's not. And the internet is pretty wide open, and I think our government missed, And the internet is pretty wide open. And I think our government missed, they missed, you know, being able to control the internet because they didn't know how powerful it was gonna be. They just didn't know. They didn't know, this is just my own theory, right? They didn't know how fucking crazy the internet was gonna be

and how much information we were gonna be able to, you know, get on in a click of a fucking, you know, snap of a finger. And AI is that same thing times a thousand. You know, it's so much more powerful. We're not going to know the difference in video, you know, of our president talking in 10 years from now. We're not going to know if it's real or fake. And so our kids are gonna grow up in a world because of AI, they're not gonna know if photos are real, they're not gonna know if video is real,

we're not gonna know if what's being told to us is real, especially if our government takes it over. Maybe they'll take it over and they, like you said, they'll claim that it's open AI, but it's not. That's fucking crazy. Like you said, it's already was supposed to be open AI and it's already getting censored. And that's the biggest platform right now, the chat GPT, right?

But other people are gonna make AI's. That's the thing. If they don't fucking get killed, I don't know. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, that's what they see in it. No one's gonna kill Elon. I'm scared. He's too good. He's still freaking out about it. I would be if I was him.

So it's a crazy world out there. He just wants to make like the most open version like he did with Twitter. Right. And see where that goes. We'll see, but now a lot of people are saying Twitter's just for hate speech and a lot of journalists are getting pissed off. You see that side of things too, but that's just what happens when you open it up to everybody.

Yeah, and that's how I put it. That's where the censorship came from in the first place. I get it. It's like, and I, what is free speech then? You know, my brother, my brother used to use Twitter all the time and now he's pissed at Elon and hates Twitter. My brother is also very liberal and I get it. He lives in an vegan and he's vegan and he's a punk though.

He's a punk. So he's in my mind, he should be stoked about the openness of it. But, you know, but this is actually the irony with like the skaters and punks and the rebels and you know people that listen to rage against the machine. And they get older, me, me, me, they, they, they find like new things to get matter. And they don't realize that they've just become old men. And they've lost like, they've just joined the thing that they hated. Yeah. I mean, I, I think there are some truth. They were like, oh, I rebel against this, I rebel against, you know,

governments and rules and all this. And then they get into a position where it like doesn't serve them anymore. And they just became like old people. Well, dude, my brother has an open mind. And I feel like his mind could get changed about a lot of things if he heard, you know, a better scenario or a better story, right? A better, you know, more of science, right? Bring some scientific fucking theories into this and give me some data and, you know,

I don't think he's just going to side one or the other because it's liberal or conservative. But a lot of people do that, right? They take their sides and this is gonna happen with AI as well. It's like people are gonna think that what they're hearing is true and other people are gonna think what they're hearing is true

and we're just gonna have this vicious cycle of no one knowing what the fuck's going on and all of us having an opinion and we're going to continue to fight each other about it. So how do we change that? This is exactly what Mark was talking about. He said it's a super panic moment, which I like. So things are moving so fast, nobody can get ahead of this.

We already lost somewhat of control of social media, right? So we're still catching up with the effects of that. Like how did it affect the election? Yeah, with the election. How did holding information, censoring information, changing it, how did that affect the election? You know, and now we have this tool

where people can get a hold of any information they want potentially. And yeah, governments don't know how to keep up with it. Before this, right? Before Google, before social media, before chat GPT, where did everyone get their information from? Like five newspapers and, you know, cable television. So it's like three or four channels. And they were basically spouting equal opposite garbage, but it was like mostly containable. You can contain like six or seven pieces of information coming into all the people. Yeah. I mean, 60 minutes of gray.

Walter County. Those same reporters would show up at the White House. The White House knew who they were for like, you know, the New York Post, the Rolling Stone or NBC or any of those. And it was like somewhat curated. And eventually we just lost our patients with it. And now we have all this new access to information and social media.

And, you know, in a way, there's a chaos with it, but there's also like a beautiful freedom. And we're just evolving as it goes. I agree, but it's only beautiful if we come together and realize and we're on the same team. That's, I've been saying that for years, dude. Like, we are all getting screwed, no matter who you voted for.

If we don't, you know, realize that this could be such a turning point in history. And I think Mark said it a few times. Like, this could go really fucking bad or it could be really good. And it could, and he seems to side on the positive. Oh, you know, definitely. And I love that. That's the best thing about this podcast. This way everyone should listen to it.

It's great. If you are a bit of a glass half full AI person, listen to this one and just try and have a different perspective. Love it. Because he said the same thing. It's like the Industrial Revolution came. The fucking print and press came. Like there's been all these inventions and we

survived it and we made more people and then those people could do like we have more creative jobs today. We have more people doing online shit than ever. Like we have more people doing jobs they actually like. A job used to be a word that was like nobody liked their job. It's the job. Everyone wants to go home. Now we have people today that love what they do. Because those influencers Adam. Well, it's not just that though, right? There's a bunch of different jobs that I love this job. Love this job. This is a good job, man. Thank you internet. Thank you. Thank you. Zoom. They are not a sponsor.

Well, yeah. Well, thank me for doing this for four years for zero dollars. And mostly thank Joe Rogan for getting just becoming the most popular thing on the planet. Love it. Like it just it just all lined up really. But anyway, the planet. Love it. Like it just, it just all lined up, really. But anyway, let's go. Well, okay, let's, though, let's, before we finish, let's talk about jobs, right? So he talked about how, you know,

we always kind of traditionally when we've, like the industrial revolution came, and then we mechanized a lot of things and it took away blue collar, maybe some farming jobs. It took away more basic jobs, right? Not to say less skilled, but just, you know, blue collar type jobs. Well now it looks like this AI is way more likely to take away white color jobs. Like it's your flama.

You don't need to worry about anything. No AI is gonna be plumbing, right? But if you've been like a copyright editor or sitting in your cubicle, just, I don't know, making graphic design or I mean, you can use it. You got to use it to your advantage. I think that's the key.

Can be done. It can be done. Well, I would say I would say ghost writers are done. Hmm. Yeah, well, it's a it's a brave new world out there. Folks also a great book that everyone should read. All right. Let's get let's get over to Tony Woods. That Mark Andreessen great combo.

Reck highly recommended for everybody. If you've used AI especially, if you haven't used it, maybe check it out before you listen to the conversation. You might have a better idea of what the hell he's talking about. So Tony, Tony, Tony, old school legend. This conversation was all over the board, but it was enjoyable to listen to because it's just like two old, you know, felt like just two old fraternity brothers talking about

bullshit for three hours. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of animals, you know, bigfoot. We've got, you know, talking about. Yeah, let's go to the big, you know, talking about all that. Let's go to the big foot. So Tony believes a big foot.

I would not have guessed that. If you know anything about Tony Woods stand up and just him as a person, you wouldn't put that together. But yeah, he's pretty convinced that when he was in the military, he heard big foot in the woods. And, you know, I think you'd be hard pressed to dissuade him of this. Hmm. But they still haven't found him in the show though. I mean, he watched all the episodes. They never find the guy. They never find no, Mr. Mr. Foot. No, they didn't get close to you. What else? So there was that.

They talked about all sorts of animals like getting attacked by monkeys. Yeah, he was gasped in the military and he enjoyed it because he got an extra long weekend. Said it made him taller. Her buddy taller, some shit. They were getting shot. Yeah, yeah. They probably get shot up with chemicals. I do wonder like what the military has got away with because because there, there have been times where they've had like experimental stuff that people could volunteer for and you just sign a bunch of, basically sign your rights away.

And they're like, well, we're just going to, we're just going to give you this medication for a week or so. Give you some LSD. Get on. Yeah. Yep. So what else do we have? I mean, they were all over the board. Tony was attacked by goats. They loved his red Nike's. Joe was stung by it.

Did he get attacked by ants or something on his feet? Or was that mosquitoes? You get attacked by red ants? There was that. Yeah, Joe was talking about his feet being all fucked up. They showed that that fight where the where the I can't remember the MMA guy, but his toe got flipped backwards. Oh, yeah, that's John. Oh, God. Yeah, he was fighting Chale Sonnen and he was defending his title. And afterwards, he realized that he kicked him so hard in the head. It spun his toe backwards and broke it. Imagine how much adrenaline you have to have going through your system to kick someone in the head, spin your toe around, continue fighting. You don't realize until you look down.

Yeah. Uh, we, we got to, we got in the cold plunge again. And this is the first time I, I don't remember them talking about it, raising your testosterone levels. I forgot about that. You know, that Tony apparently has some high prostate. I forget the numbers. They're called PSAs. I forget what those stand for though.

But my father had prostate cancer. He had to fucking get the thing, get his prostate taken out. It was a huge deal. Scary. And so I'm, you know, I have to be worried about that as I get into my mid-40s, right? And I'm wondering if the, if us doing the cold bath, you know, three, four days a week is making that difference. I don't know. Keto diet. Sounds like the ketogenic diet is a huge thing. And again, this is just one gentleman's perspective, but it said he went from what is it? He was doing six days a week, the ice bath at 34 degrees, and then every day for three minutes, that activates the brown fat, and then he was doing intermittent fasting one day a week, and then doing the keto.

And he said after doing five days of keto, he would just eat a bunch of bread, which I thought was strange. Well, he's probably missed it. Yeah, he was just right. He needed it. But he said it lowered his PSA, and I think that's just like the levels, right? Just like if you were to count your white blood cells or whatever, it's like the levels, if those get high, you're at a cancer risk, right?

For your prostate. So they went from 7.0 to 1.8 after like three months of doing it. So anyway, keep doing those ice baths, but ketogenic dude is legit. I always feel better. It seems like it. I always feel better when I do that. Yeah. Or you can do the carnival if you like similar.

Well, that the thought around, yeah, it's basically the same thing. You're definitely, you're definitely going to be farting around. Mm-hmm. Have you seen what did you think about Joe being on the invisalign during this pod? What was it? What's the invisalign again? He's getting his teeth. Oh, right, right. Yeah, I was worried about how he sounded. I couldn't tell. My ex-wife was on was doing that thing. They ship you like every week. They ship you a new retainer. It seems pretty cool. I don't know if it actually works, but is it every week? It's either every week or every two weeks. Yeah, you wear it at night. I don't know why he's wearing it during the day. I worked for a dental office once and

and I they want in Visaline, but they was something very similar. We used to make those things. Yeah, well, it's like having a retainer that you don't need braces for, right? You don't need to like, fuck your teeth. It was super simple to make. You would make like a cast of the teeth. And then you would heat the, the, the, like sheet, like a little square plastic heat the sheet over the, yeah, you heat the sheet over the top. And then it sucks down onto the teeth. So it makes like a puff. And then you just have to cut it out and you know, file it down. And then you just, then you make that, but then how do you, then you, how do you make them straight?

You just have to create. So you're only casted. No, it looks like this. So you take the cast and then you take whatever teeth you want to straighten. And with the tiny little saw, because it's like clay, you cut those teeth out, and you move them just a little bit, not far, just a little bit, and then you glue them back in. And that's what you make the visor line over. So basically what happens is when you put the,

no I get it, I get it, they're steps. They're kind of pushes them over time. You can't just put the last step in right away, because your teeth would fucking hurt too bad. Oh, yeah, the ripier mouth upon. It's all progression. What else were they talking about? Cats, cats getting something from rats or rats getting some from cats, their, their testes would get swollen up and, and the rats would get aroused. And then it would force them to go to the cat litter so that the cats could then, you know, eat the rats.

There were a lot of random stuff. It's called a toxoplasmosis. So we're called toxoplasma. So it's like a, it's like some kind of weed parasite that lives in cats. Yeah. So we were all over the board. We were talking about praying mantises, killing hummingbirds, which I had never seen. I did watch that one. I had already seen the ant thing before.

Joe's brought that up with the ants grow. The mushrooms get inside the ants and then explode. Uh-huh, yeah. And it sucks up the whole colony. Yeah, the spores. You know, I like the fact that Tony was a bike messenger. That's cool. Before he was on BET, he was just a bike messenger. He remember puck from the real world. They were the original real world. That's what it reminded me of.

Yeah, yeah, it's my favorite character. Yeah, it was funny that he didn't believe that BET was a channel. Yeah, he was stoked. Well, that was that was on cable, right? Yeah, they have cable to get BT. I think so. Yeah. Do they still have BT? Oh, yeah. It had great shows. I like that channel. I wish that a lot. I think Martin was on that. I do that was just going to say Martin. Yeah, Martin was so good. The best damn Gina such a good show. Apparently we have to watch the Woody Harrelson movie, the champion sounded like Tony was way into it. If somebody gives you random pills at the when you have a headache, probably shouldn't take all three of them.

Said he freaking shit his pants the next morning after taking three pills of MDMA. You got to be careful with that X to see, bro. Yeah, it's strong. Always start small, guys. Start with the core, the pills start with the quarter. Yeah, we pills from a Scottish guy is going to wreck you. Yeah. Yeah. And then basically got yelled at by a small person with red hair. Sounded a little scary. But yeah, we were all over the board here. I would say if you're a huge fan of Tony, definitely get into it. I mean, Tony's funny. Like I said, there wasn't really any theme to this one.

It was just all over the place. But that's the beauty of Rogan. It's a beauty podcast. It's kind of you just never know. That's the comedy ones, dude. They do that. You know, they just hit a lot of different points. I'll tell you what I took away.

My big takeaway was the Edinburgh festival. I would love to go there. What's going on? I've been doing a month that in just every day watching comedy. I don't know how difficult it would be to get a place to stay, probably really tough, but I could organize a few of some of the best comedians would be that it would just be awesome. And the grass is always green. Grass is always green, baby. Oh, and Adam bruh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Always. Always. All it's icy and covenants. No, it's icy and Covenant snow. It's pretty Covenant snow. Imagine.

Might take away a stand-up comedy. I liked the fact that he said stand-up comedy is way easier than having kids. So I'm going to end with that one. Stand-up comedy is easier than having kids. Not saying it's easy, but kids are harder. So any... Where are we at? Time wise on this bit. We're at 44 44 net toes, bro Nice Well, that is you know, I was surprised he said that because I've already done one of those So if that's true having the baby come you're doing good

But if dude if you think about it, so you know, I don't really I don't typically get scared I get a little nervous before I go on stage, right? If there's like a couple hundred people in the crowd, whatever, I've done it enough and had enough shows and, you know, ski video, premieres and whatnot and been on stage. But you get a little nervous, right? That's just human nature.

You're gonna get nervous before you get on stage. That almost helps you, right? Because it like forces you to get out of that state. Because as soon as you touch that microphone, it's like you're in a different, you're a different human. It just, it just changes you. But not everybody has that. So I think for some people, maybe raising a child would be easier than stand up. But for, you know, guys like you have already done it, you know, maybe having a kid, maybe having a kid is going to be a lot harder for you than doing stand-up at them We'll just have to find out when once your baby pops out

Time it's off. Well on that note. I think I think we're done Am I signing off tonight today to you buddy? Sign off brother. All right. We're in the captain seat today. Thank you all for listening. I am your co-host, Todd Heath with Mr. Adam Thorn. We are coming live and direct from Zoom today. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Make sure to listen to Mark Andreessen and Tony Woods. A couple of great interviews this week. And we'll see you next week. Thanks for joining us. Later, guys. Peace.