Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 342 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Mike Baker Et al.

Episode Date: August 27, 2023

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn. Might be the worst but casual with the best one. One, go. Enjoy the show. Yo, and welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. Nice to have you back with us today.

Todd, how are you doing, buddy? Oh, bud. I'm great, buddy. Moved into a new house. Got a bike trailer for my son. So I'm not riding my freaking, or sorry, not driving my van all over the place and traffic. I'm just, you know, we even through traffic.

Now I'm a bike. Feels great. My son loves it. That sounds like fun. It is fun. Just freaking too bad. It's going to be snowing in about a week and a half and you won't get to use it. Yeah, well, we like snow here.

Okay, Knoxville settle down and maybe get some little skis for it. Dragon around. So yeah, like cross country scheme with a little sled. Cheers, buddy. Cheers to you. Nice to see you on the Zoom today. We got a couple people this week. Who do we who do we have? I took some good notes this week. How about you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Where we got good old CIA Mike Baker. Love him. He's he's back on and then the crew the of the super car guys. Well, muscle car guys Jeremy Gerber, Phil Gerber and Josh Hanning. There we go. Who do you want to start with today, my brother? Josh Hanyng's a good name. Let's start with Mike Baker. Mike Baker. Yeah, let's, let's get into it. I mean, he opened up a heart with, with some new information of Biden and his son, Laundering, Laundering,

so many. 20 mill, 20 mill. They found already good job guys. Yeah, I guess there's like a pretty straightforward paper trail to that. I don't know the ins and outs of it, right? Because you get into the weeds on any of it. And no matter who's telling you the story that either pro or against, four or against, you know, Biden and the story. So they're just so skewed, you don't know who to listen to. How long is it going to take to realize people, everyone launders money, every president

has laundered money, every president is a fricking scam artist. I don't care if you're a Republican Democrat, independent or fucking in outer space, you're going to be doing some weird shit. You're the president of the United States. We would all do it. Okay. Well, he did it as a vice president. Well, good for him.

You know, I'm like, little side money. Good for him. You don't think Trump's doing that. I'm not saying I like to. No, I'm sure it, right? But here's the thing. It's like, do we just not prosecute any of them always, which we've basically done. Right. Now they're starting to prosecute Trump. Good. So what does that mean? Do we now prosecute all of them? No, lock them up baby lock them up all of them Hillary Trump fucking don't lock up Bernie Sanders. I like him These are it. So you just want to lock up every block.

Not lock him up. He's gonna take that place. Hopefully they you know, maybe they commit suicide allegedly You know, maybe they'll Legit Yeah Oh, the cameras weren't working. I don't know what happened there. There was a glitch. Yeah. That whole story is so fun. I mean, for real. So fuck. But yeah, he's bullshit. He's laundering money. His son is clearly an idiot. We all know that he's to make some great videos though. Love those love those cracked out videos of the laptop. My god, he was having fun in Bangkok. He should have had a TikTok.

He would crush it and that's in the Hunter bite in the Tick Tuck account. Buddy, he'd be making 20 million by China. 20 million day. At least. Yeah, he wouldn't have had the Lord or anything. He just like get massive tick-suck payout. Oh, buddy. I mean, but for real though, people who isn't, who isn't taking

advantage of the system as, I mean, look at Pelosi in her husband. Oh, he just somehow is the best fucking trader in the world. Yeah. Well, what's hilarious now is there are trading accounts on Instagram. These like young kids that are finance guys, smart guys, a lot of them. And they basically just follow, um, congrats. Like Senator Congress trades. They see what they're doing. Well, then you can, you can like set your portfolio to trade automatically along with these. Oh, buddy. That's a great idea

Well, what it does is it's giving giving People that are trading through this the opportunity to make huge returns. They do in this I'm also also massively highlighting the fact that these people have inside their knowledge and They are doing inside a trading which yet do we all know But it's like really fucking highlighting it in fact There was a bill just went into Congress that was vetoed by the Congress people all the Senate I don't know which one but it was basically a bill saying that it was gonna limit or stop their ability to trade

And they were like yeah, how about now? Yeah, they're going to, yeah, they're going to veto that real quick. And it's like, wait a minute, we're asking them to self-police. Like, what? We need an independent body for this. Like, that should be a supreme court decision. The unfortunate thing, you know, you think about the people, there's very few and far between the people who actually give a shit.

You know about our about Congress and like being like a statesman or a woman and really standing up for our rights. I mean, most of these people just get into this business to be crooks. Let's be honest. They're all fricking crooks, man. And when you do get somebody in that's like fairly honest and really wants to point out some of the hypocrisy that's going on. They move those people out so fast. Of course. They're like, oh, they're not playing the game. Get rid of them. That reminds me of Wolf of Wall Street. Okay. If you're not, if you, if you don't know that penny trades are ridiculous and fake in a total scam, they're not going to let

you in. Okay. Everyone who was trading those knew that they were trading ridiculousness. I mean, it was just a total scam. And that's congressman and women are just bullshitters. That's all the other professional bullshitters who behind this. Well, we're a little bit cynical on congressman and senators today. But you know, they're worth picking on, right? They should should be highlighted the last thing we should be doing is really like lumping them up as great people that are Saving our country and I'm just probably wrong true. Okay, so let's let's go down the list here You know, we you guys know how we feel about Congress. Okay, get those those sneaky Crooks out of there, okay? I'm, I'm not a, I'm not a great thing that came up. The Joe said, and maybe it was Mike, I don't

remember, but they, they kind of suggested, hey, I wonder why this stuff is coming out about Biden now, and they're not trying to hide it. Right. And it might be that, yeah, they, because he wants to run again, maybe the Dems don't want him to. And they're like, all right, let's start. Yeah, but who's going to take over? Gavin Newsom, because he's not going to win against Trump. No way. No, no, I don't think he win, but he might be a candidate they try to put in. Boo. Yeah. That would be very upsetting for me. I lived in Cal 8 when COVID was going on and the things Gavin Newsom was doing there, which there was just so many shady moments of his behavior that I, yeah, I'm not going to be very happy about that.

Do you think he just truly was scared of COVID or do you think there was a, there was a, uh, in a gender there that he was being fed? Oh, dude, he, so he closed all the vineyards supposedly, except his own punk. Yeah, made tons of money. He got gifted two houses that totaled something like $28 million gifted them and took more of his out of him. So basically got paid gifted from that. That's the thing, he doesn't need to disclose it. But you got to wonder, who's trying to bribe him at a time where everything's getting closed down? Right. Right.

And I don't know enough of the information, but I knew what it was like to live there. I knew that they filled in the skate park in Venice that's outside with sand. Yeah. They banned people from being in the ocean park in Venice that's outside with sand. They banned people from being in the ocean and going on the beach. Buddy, buddy, that's too much. And it's like, hold on. Are we really, they basically put something like 75% of all the restaurants out of business. You know how hard it is to like own a restaurant and keep it

going and provide for your family. And they're just like, no, close everything, sold down. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the restaurant industry is a terrible thing. People lost their homes, people lost a lot. And it's, you know, I guess you can say, well, it was to save lives and it's like, well, okay. But hold on, people also, also like lost their lives as well. It's still a life, but they have nothing. And they may never recover.

Okay. Well, what other fun stuff should we talk about? There's so many good fun things happening here that Mike and Rogan talked about. We've got the balloon. Okay. Clearly that was great. Clearly, the balloon is a spy balloon. Right? I mean, let's let's be honest. That's what they say was a weather balloon. It was like measuring the weather. That's what the Chinese were trying to say as it flew over a lot of nuclear, right, missile silo bases. Exactly. It went over the mouse from air base. Remember, that's why it was in Montana Montana and we saw it. Right. There's 150 silo based nukes up there. Okay. That's in just northwest of here, about an hour and a half to our drive. Mm hmm. You know, and how I hadn't heard this before, how China's regime

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was going to was going to save the day. It's not folks. It's just not. We got to have nuclear nuclear. No, no. When I was listening to Baker, I'm thinking to myself, no wonder that our government is not pro-nuclear because guess why? What? Who's going to make the money off of that? Oil and gas companies are going down once we get nuclear. Okay. We're not going to be using that stuff as much.

Fossil fuels are already shitting the bed. Everybody's complaining about them. Nobody wants to put money into it. And in my mind, nuclear is the key, but they don't want us to think that because it truly would give us very clean and important energy that we need. And it would do it for a fraction of the cost and a fraction of the supplies that it takes to create these windmills that already are destroying landscapes, sorry, Ann Burtz. And I don't, I think windmills are great, but there needs to be all of the above. We need to have wind, solar, water, and nuclear.

And just get rid of coal. I mean, coal needs to go bubbi. It is just horrible. Horrible horrible, horrible for the planet. You know, and then, and then, you know, they're talking about India and China and these, these countries are just polluting so much more than we are. We can't stop that, but maybe if we started on the nuclear train, maybe that would entice them to maybe go clean, because it works. clear train, maybe that would entice them to maybe go clean because it works. It's a frustrating, it's a frustrating. How about we just make enough nuclear power places for all our power needs.

So it's basically like, you know, net zero for carbon emissions and waste and all the rest of it, other than like the depleted uranium that they just bury in the ground that's. Yeah, but dude, whatever, bury it. And then and then build a few more nuclear power stations that are not designed to power anything, but they maybe decelerate ocean water primarily. So we have all the water. No, we're talking. We're not running out of oceans and then make a couple more of those nuclear power plants that are now some sort of highly energy carbon scrubbing right things and it just scrubs that air but we could talk about it from dust till dawn buddy

and it's not going to happen because the power is not the don't want to get these in plan and I'm an idiot. It's an amazing plan. Decellinate the water, give us some nuclear power. And as far as I have heard and read about, and I'm not a huge fan of Bill Gates, but I did watch Bill's brain on Netflix. And yes, there was probably a bit of propaganda in this, but when he was trying to make a nuclear power plant in China before Trump put all the tariffs on China

and we stopped trading with them and steal and everything. He was going to make a power plant over there in China and it was supposedly could run off of depleted uranium. So they were saying that the amount of depleted uranium that's sitting in the ground right now in our country could run our, we could run our power grid for 100 years off of the use shit. Oh, wow. Quoted from the movie here. This is not my quote.

Right. So, but it makes sense. If you stop doing something, stop building it and we have like a pretty old nuclear power stations here, I think, from the 60s, 70s. Yeah. But if we'd been making them the whole time, we'd be improving on it. We'd be finding new fuels.

We'd be making them safer. Maybe we could recycle ship at a, that's right. Obviously, that's what we do with everything that we put money in. That's right. It just doesn't make sense that we should stop with it. Because, you know,

we're like, don't you think it's because the, that the powers that be that are making money off of coal and gas and oil and natural gas do not want nuclear power Adam. Wouldn't that make sense? It's got to be something right? Why would they want to be a power force behind it and it's probably money?

Why would they want? Why would they want nuclear power? It's efficient and it's clean. Well, but if they want to make money so much, why don't they just build the fucking things themselves, then they can profit off it. Exactly. It's like, I don't really care who's profiting off it. It's just make better versions of what we need for our power. Absolutely. What would you take on China trying to buy all that land near the

Air Force base that Mike was talking about? It's scary. It sounds like it didn't go through. What do you think they were up to? Just spying on us? Absolutely. They're buying up land and hit them in gates. The Chinese, they're saying the Chinese have just almost just as much farmland as gates does in our country. Go figure. That's a little, that's a little alarming, isn't it? Yeah, why are they trying to do so much farming over here? It's going on. I mean, then we got to watch out for our fucking Rumbas and our Wi-Fi mobs because the Chinese servers can connect to them. Are there really what's going on? They're really Wi-Fi mobs now. You'd have one if it was. Yes, you would have one.

You have a fucking Rumba. I think so. You totally have a Rumba. You're going to buy one for your lawn. And it's going to listen to you and all your conversations do. And they're going to find you. They do have robot loamers. I know they do. Talking fridges, dude, don't buy a talking fridge, okay? And turn off your Alexa. And then, you know, it's like the Wi-Fi fridge could like guess your weight just based on

the amount of food that you have You got a couple of fat guys live here. You got to appreciate and this This conversation is is a bit It's it's hard to it's hard to hear this conversation right because so much of what Mike says is true and and kind of Disappointing really it's like fuck this all this stuff happening. And what do we do about it? We're sending $74 billion in the last, what 20 years to Afghanistan. And we've, and we've spent more than that in the last two years on Ukraine. And there's all these people just chomping at the bit, ready to go in. They're selling them all the weapons. So they're making money off that end. And now then they get to go in and reconstruct all the shit that got blown

up. I mean, it's just this endless cycle. It's just good to hear somebody who is smart and has worked in the government and knows what they're talking about. And he's calling him all out. He's like, yeah, this is a business war is a business for our country. And it's a sad, it's a sad truth. It really is. And we've talked about it plenty on this pod, but yeah, I don't know what the answer is, but it's not to give more money to Ukraine. The answer is fuck war. And yeah, sorry, Ukraine. Sorry, Russia, figure it out. Is that bad to say figured out yourselves? Why does America have to go in and save everyone? Can we help our own country, please?

It seems too expensive. I mean, you look at the Maui fires right now. I guess I guess Biden was like, yeah, we give we give everyone $700 that's been affected by this. That's it. Like how far is that going to go? And it still hasn't happened to buy some good forties with that and some fucking spam. Yeah, it's like your house burnt down and they're like his I don't mean to laugh. What's going on there? You buy large tent crazy. What? Yeah, I don't know. What are these conspiracies now? We got people online telling this saying that this was was was was orchestrated. Have you heard this? Oh, I don't know. There's like talk of fucking laser weapons from space.

They like can we stop? Can we stop? Can we stop with that? So people could, you know, rich people can come in and redevelop it. And it's like, okay. Do we have fucking laser weapons? What we're doing? That's how we're done in Ukraine, bud.

So we're doing in Ukraine. Laser weapons. No drones though. Fucking shooting everything up. Then we can go in and rebuild it. Let's go blackwater Okay It's not good folks. I don't know where the positive is in this other than they're talking about it truthfully

Unrogan there there's the positive Spin on this entire thing this was in my mind. This is one of the Really one of the heavier pods because what Mike is saying is so true. And he knows he's been working for the government for how many years did he work for them? Oh, it's his whole career, you know, he did like a full stretch of like 20 years or whatever. Right, right.

And he knows. I'm just, he, it still is like disappointing to me somewhat that he's constantly playing down the UFO thing. Yeah, he doesn't want to say real skeptic on that end. And it's all rogan really wants to hear about. He kept trying. Well, but the most compelling point that he brings up and it's worth considering is that you know, he says he says how could the government keep this a secret? Like he knows how inefficient, you know, government agencies have been at keeping other secrets that

maybe he was a part of, you know, through leaks and things. And this one is just too big. And it's like, they either just nailed it on mostly keeping this a secret in this one area. Or there isn't anything, you know, the Bob Blasar thing isn't true and all the rest of it. It's a tough one to get past because at the end of the day, we still don't have the two things that would be really compelling. We got some like scrambly, videoy, black and white, you know, radar footage from fighter jets, which is like, what does any of that mean to anybody anyway,

other than people to work on radars and fighter jets? And I'm not saying it wasn't like a crazy thing that happened. I'm sure it was. But why don't we have just a really high-daff quality video of one of these things just like slowly zipping by neighborhood. And and then on top of that, bring a piece of metal and alien head. Someone, someone must have a little piece of this that they could just go like, here you go, analyze that university.

Yeah. I mean, it is cool to see these whistleblowers come out and not get killed for talking, you know, for talking to the government about these claims, you know, who was that? The David David Grush, right? And he, you know, he's talking about Benito Mussolini's government, recovering a non-human spacecraft in 1933, the Vatican. I'm paraphrasing this from, excuse me, from Wikipedia. He said which the Vatican and the Five Eyes assisted the US in procuring in 1944 or 45, Grush claims second hand knowledge that American citizens have been harmed

and killed as part of the government's efforts to cover up this information. He claims the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, that's NASA, people, and the DOD Department of Defense issued statements reaffirming that no evidence of extraterrestrial life has been discovered that there is no verifiable information about anyone possessing in reverse engineering any extraterrestrial materials. Then it goes on to say who we know

our fighter pilot Ryan Graves and retired US Navy commander David Fraver who Rogan has had on and talked with quite a bit and about these saying that he has repeated some of the claims under oath about these, you know, what did they call it? These UFOs that they saw, these tick-tax that they saw in the sky, right? They had that on film. It's on film. Yeah. So people are coming out and testifying under oath about this, which is very cool, but I do agree with Mike that there is no fricking way that we could keep

this secret for that long. The government is just not smart enough. There's too many people who want to talk about it. There would just be too many people. You can't just kill everybody who knows stuff. Dude, it's the best thing to talk about ever. Right. If you were a part of it, surely you would like,

maybe just be like, okay, I'm not gonna tell anyone to get in trouble, but I'm gonna write it down and have a bit of evidence and just send it to the press. You know, or something like that. You would just think that other humans would need to know. I mean, even the president of the United States is from, well, Richard Nixon, when he was the president, member, didn't he bring his buddy out to supposedly through that book that he wrote? I can't remember the guy's name. He was that fat dude comedian guy. I can't think of his name right now.

Oh, yeah. You had the UFO shaped house. Yep. Oh, yeah. Supposedly he went and they saw it, you know, and back then maybe the president did have access to it. I don't think they do now. I don't think anyone ever showed Trump an alien.

I don't because he'd never show an alien. I don't want it because he never showed his mouth. He's not talking about it. Please show Trump an alien. I want Trump to be president just for that alone to give him access to the alien keys. Imagine they finally come and they do like the scene from the 1950s, where it's like take me to your leader and they walk up to the White House to meet the president and they get that in its Trump. And they're just like, White House to meet the president and they get that in its Trump. And they're just like, okay, this is your leader. And then he just starts saying some wacky stuff.

He's like picking on him for being green and small or gray or whatever. Oh, God, yeah. Small hands, small hands. Yeah. So look, we all want to believe, I believe that we all want to believe that there's aliens out there. But it does seem to be something that just gets talked about when other shit is getting, you know, past and, you know, when other important things need to get passed, like, you know, a defense bill or sending $80 billion of Ukraine, let's talk about UFOs for a while. Get everybody's mind off of what's really happening in the world. That to me seems like a strategic distraction at this point.

Now that would be a nice. And I think this is what's interesting about it. It's like Joe who's always been like pro into wanting to believe this and waiting for them to come is like actually getting really skeptical. Yeah. He's like believing in it a lot less because the government is kind of on board. And he's like, you know what? If they're bet the government is kind of on board. And he's like, you know what? If they're all of a sudden on board, I now don't trust. Bullshit. Yeah, let's go.

It's just the bullshit. Let's go back to Snowden, dude. If Snowden can't find real documents about aliens, then I don't know who can. Yeah, that was a shocker too. He claims to me and he's like, dude, there was nothing. Nothing in the data. You got to believe Snowden. I mean, what a fucking American hero. I don't care what anyone says. That guy's awesome.

And so was Julian Assange. Okay. I'm throwing out there. These people are just trying to get the snowden especially. Snowden especially. Assange is like, you know, crazy. He's good, good and a little slippery. I mean, he's, he might be a little doctor, some doctor evil.

Yeah, not entirely sure, but he's out of rough run of it. I mean, he's in and still in, I think, an Ecuadorial, um, uh, like, embassy, embassy, yeah, in London, can't leave. Did you see there coming out with a film about him and like they've got freaking Kelly Slater on board like the professional surfer like. One of the biggest surfers in the world is coming out to like to pump him up and pump up this this new movie that they're coming out. I'm going to look into it real quick.

Because I just saw it on the Facebook the other day. Do you know the Pamela Anderson like went to visit him? I like Pam. I like Pam, you know, she's got a bad rap. She got a bad rap. Super. Super hot. Tommy's an ass. Uh, Pam's just a sweetheart, you know, just trying to raise a couple of boys as a single mother, you know, she's still hot in her 50s too. Guarante always gonna be hot dude. She was such a smoke show on Baywatch. It was distracting CJ Yeah, all right, you know on

One of those like free app cable things on the smart TV. I think it's called like Pluto or something okay sure they have. They have, they watch channel. You can just watch it 24 hours a day if you wanted to recommend it. I'll check that out. I like that. I do like me some hassle off, but every time I hit the ball into the sand, that's a hassle off out there on the on the links. Okay.

So it's greatest, greatest surfer ever. Kelly Slater joins Roger Waters in narrating new documentary. Okay. So our boy Roger, who we all know and love from Pink Floyd, one of my favorite members of Pink Floyd, probably my favorite, actually, you know, he wrote the wall. No big deal. It says greatest surfer ever. Kelly Slater joins Roger Waters in narrating new documentary on wiki leak founder Julian Assange. So it's about him. He Assange put out information. This is quoted. This is a Kelly Slater quote. He and then in parentheticals, Assange put out information. People didn't want being put out, but it was all truthful. And I don't

know how you fault a guy for putting out the truth. Fuck yeah, Kelly Slater. I'm into that. What's the name of the documentary? It's an easy to out yet. The trust fall is absolutely fabulous news, news worth mixing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 11 time world server chamber will be narrowing parts of New Julian Assange new documentary. This just this is from five days ago.

So this is new. Okay. We are from five days ago. So this is new. Okay. We are stuffed for the name of it. The trust fall Julian Assange documentary. I think they're trying to get it funded right now. So I don't know if there's a actual date on this, on the film being released. I think it needs to get funded.

Oh, okay. Okay. It is now nearing completion. However, there are some crucial steps remaining before we can do a worldwide cinema release additional color and sound grading making a website translating the film. So they're still Raising money. It looks like they're they have some sort of go fund me account I'm gonna click on it here. Yeah, go fund me. So they have a go fund me the trust fall They have raised give them five bucks 80,000.

We're going to donate right now, baby. $80,000 have been raised in Australia. This is a A U D. That's Australia, right? Ozzy. No, that would be a US. Well, it's a U D. Kim Staten found him a films for change. Cool. All right.

I'm giving them five bucks. What up? Oh, it is or films for change cool. All right. I'm giving them five bucks. What up? Oh, it is. It is really pretty cool. Pretty cool, man. Kelly Slater. I mean, not only is the world time champ and also banged Pamela Anderson. If we're going to talk Pam here for again, I'm going to get let's go Kelly. Let's go Kelly. He was dating her when she was on Baywatch, but Oh, that must bet that's the connection here. Oh, there we go.

Of course it is. Pam, I'm putting it together. Pam, you imagine like you would never think back in the 90s that Pamela Anderson will eventually be responsible for creating a documentary highlighting. I would. I would. I would. All these implicit, you know, would all these implicit you know

Sneaky ass moves of governments. It's like you never know who's gonna make an impact man dude Pam shit Pam's awesome go Pam I'm sorry barboyer. Sorry barboyer didn't work out for you. You know, that was it. That was a not a smash hit at all Yeah, but she looked When she covered up that barboil or tat. Oh, yeah, terrible. So yeah, anything else on Mr. Baker, bud, before we cross over, we're out of half hour here. Yeah, no, other than he's starting his podcast that other people have, like, basically put it together for him and he's just going to come in and like solve a case or something. It sounds pretty interesting. That is cool. That is cool. Yeah, it sounds pretty interesting.

I think he's great. I like it when he's on. It's cool that he's one of those repeat guests that just keeps popping in and you know has his little, he loves to just have those little offshoot kind of conversations where he just starts rambling on about his kids or some silly thing going out of this house. He's, he's a goofy dude. You can't, you can't take the CIA out of him, Kenya. You can't take that government, you know, heavy hitter. I'm my kid goes to frickin.

I love how Joe's like, wait, don't you miss your kid when he's off to boarding school? And he's like, well, you know, it's good for him. Yeah, yeah, he's a government mandate. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, no, it's good for him. I was like, well, actually, I'm pretty sure everyone I know went to boarding school, just got better at dealing drugs and was more of a fuck up. But okay, buddy, you believe what you want to believe.

Maybe. Maybe. All right, let's jump over to the car, guys. Jeremy Goeba, Phil Go Gerber and Josh Henning. There you go. Now, I've watched a bunch of their videos since watching them on Rogan. They have their own podcast too, the oil and whiskey podcast. Love that.

Yeah, when I was looking up the podcast, you can't really see numbers and things like that, but it's not a huge podcast. But it is a lot of fun. And if you like muscle cars, you can learn a lot about it. And they have a great attitude and just kind of conversation back and forth. So I guess really the connection here is that these guys have been building some cars for Joe and you know, you know, him and just wanted to have them on. Muscle cars are one of those things, I mean, being English, you know, mostly our cars suck. We have a few cool ones, like we have the Austin Martin.

That's what I was going to say. The Austin Martin is legit. Yeah, and like even, even some like little cool MGs and, you know, there was some British made jaguars for a while that were very, you know, just kind of connected to England. And I think the McLaren is also British, which is a bad bad bad bad out super car. But you know, you go back to the 70s in England and Europe and you compare that to the muscle cause of the US. I mean, dude, no comparison.

The US just was crushing it for cause. Well, and also, hello, a little bit later, maybe late 70s, have you seen the Ford station wagon, okay, with the wood on the sides and it had the wrap around,in' couch in the back leather couch that went from the front seat all the way wrapped around to the other seat, the passenger seat turned around. That's some 70 style right there. That's when kids could just fucking lay down in the back seat like in between like above the back seat. Remember when we used to do that as kids? Yeah, I remember doing it. We didn't need seat belts, dude. Just throw, go, give me in the back. Hold on. Hold on for dear life, son. We're going fast. If we stop and you fall into the seat, you better fucking hold on. But I love how he compared it to and it

seemed like the Gerber boys were surprised when Joe said, Hello, why do you think the cars were so cool? Everyone was doing acid. That's why. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very creative time. And it was a free for all, you know, gas was cheap. You can make engines as big as you wanted. And they just put these behemoth engines in. But the real thing that makes them amazing is their design.

Right. Because now they have all these retro mod companies that just basically take the body and put all new shit in, which is what you want. You want like good traction control and power steering and just suspension that works well and more than the stuff. But you know, keep that look. And that look is like, really, we just never came up with anything better. Like, we've had cool cars here and there that have popped up, you know, Ferrari always kept good style as it went. And but that's super car stuff. Just reminds me of DC confused. So many good cars in that fucking movie. The Camaro. Why would you get if you could get any like somebody just said free range.

I mean, you pick anything you want. What's your muscle car that you'd pick? Oh, let's see. Man, I mean, I do like a good firebird. Um, you know, speaking of hands, speaking of hassle off. Yeah. Um, I do like those, those wider fronts, though, like the Chevy's like the. Was that chevier plim it that it had like that real wide front right that looked kind of like a shark's mouth had the circular. The circular. Lights you know the terino the Ford terino is kind of like that.

It's got like that badass kind of back almost like a hatchback, right? But the front is just looks like a linking continental. You know, it's got that real like flat front and that super wide with the circular lights. I love that look. I actually miss, you know, I have a Chevy van. I'm a van guy. I love Chevy's. But the older Chevy that I had, the 93 had those circle lights.

And the new one has the square blockier lights. God, I missed the circle. I missed those circle lights. I just love the look of that for whatever reason. I just think it looks cooler. Yeah. Yeah, that bad. So yeah, I mean, I mean, GTOs were really cool.

Some of them do the Plymouth, Pyracuda is obviously Mustangs. Look at that. Plymouth, Pyracangs. Look at that Plymouth Barricuda. Look at that thing, dude. That's got that circular light, too. You see that? That's badass. So, yeah, they're, I mean, look, dude, they just don't make them like they used to, right? Um, the Malibu. The Chevy Malibu. Back in the day, that Chevy Malibu is so tight, 78 Malibu back in the day that Chevy Malibu is so tight 78 Malibu. Wow. Yeah, I think the Camaro and the firebird, those are kind of the two, those are like the biggest muscle cars, right? Everybody wants a Camaro. Chevy Camaro was just such a badass car. Isn't that what Joe's into? He might have a Camaro. I mean, look at that. I mean, look at that. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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Oh, you're right. Yep. Yeah. So yeah, but you know, I did appreciate, they didn't really even talk about cars that much until the end. That it was a lot of. Yeah, not a great deal.

I mean, some of it was just like components and building, you know, like they've got to be careful when they order a lot of steel or whatever for the chassis for from China because there's just like huge differences in the quality. Yeah. And, you know, there's just some crappy steel out there. You got to be careful about. Let's bring engineering back here and bring all this stuff back to the States, man. That was a lot of the conversation they had. They went on and on for a good 20, 30 minutes on that of just bringing back. I think I definitely think more companies should.

I mean, if you look at Jocco stuff, Jocco Willink is like making like made in America shit again. That's great. Like refabled all these old machines for making jeans and geese and boots. And you know, really training up this new generation on a skill set that's basically been lost. That's true.

You know, people are like forgetting how to make quality stuff here. So we've just outsourced it to all these countries that can make it cheap. No, that's true. And they're just giving us cheap, cheap versions of it. Well, that's not entirely true. And I have to tell a story about a friend of mine here in Boseman, who makes high quality gear, like outerwear. He goes to Japan. And they have these looms that I've seen that they make these, he makes this like recycled, refurbished flannels, right? They're like 300-dollar flannels, right?

But they'll last forever. But they, you know, it's a craftsmanship there. It's like, it's like, you know, there's kids, he was telling me about it. He's like, I go to Japan and there's kids in their 20s wearing skate shoes and backwards hats and they got their fucking headphones in and they're behind this loom and they're making stuff. It's like a cool thing to do. And he goes, then you come to the States, come to the States, and most of the shops that you can still create clothing and at least wool clothing. This is the same guy telling me about this. He used to own a few wool brands here in the States. So they're brand that makes stuff in North Carolina, is where a lot of these shops are.

And he goes, you go to North Carolina and there's like one guy fucking carrying around, you know, an oxygen tank with him. He's like the only one who knows how to use the machines and no one else is in there. Because it's not a, it's not like a cool thing to do. Like, yeah, I make t-shirts, you know? Whereas you go to Japan and it's like,

this is a tradition that has been passed down over centuries. But that's the point I was making. It's a dying hour. And we've got to bring it back, you know, we've got to bring those jobs back here and make them, you know, because once that old guy with the oxygen dies,

who else is going to know how to do this? Well, and we need to pay our people more. Hello, if people at Wendy's can get paid $22 an hour to start, can somebody make in T-shirts at least start at that? Well, I think if it was quality stuff that would last, people wouldn't mind paying a little bit more for it. Yeah. It's like how many eight dollar T-shirts do you need

to buy off Amazon before you realize, well shit, they only last like six months, anyway, it's true. I used to have abdcrombie t-shirts from like back in like 2004. Not a sponsor. They lasted over a decade. Yeah. I mean, I have these wool shirts that were made in the USA. They're $80 t-shirts, but I've had them for 10 years and they're still fucking great. So yeah. And that's the thing when you get quite it's like furniture now dude. Yeah. Look at all furniture is like IKEA. Everything just falls apart. I bought this island for my kitchen. You know, not very big. It's just like the kitchen.

No, I got it off Amazon, but it's the same sort of like, you know, build it yourself. Right. But it takes forever. I can't. Don't make fun of Ikea, dude. Ikea's legit. I'm just saying it's not like furniture of an old dude. Right. Like you get an old, like we have some old furniture that my girlfriend's parents gave

us. It's like from the 60s. Right. Moved it down here because it just lasts forever. High quality. Dude, that, yeah, that stuff you could hit with a truck. Okay. It was maybe break a foot off.

It was built here. It probably has, you know, like, you know hit with a truck. Well, it was maybe break a foot off. It was built here. It probably has, you know, like, you know, it's solid pine. It's not, it's not just, you know, this pressed together, fucking particle board that you could kick. Yeah. You could make sun could punch a hole in. So yeah, I get it. I get it.

I mean, I just bought a 70s condo. Everything in there is high quality hard wood, you know. Right. They don't make me like, they use different, but they don't do it today because it's expensive. But it's like, hey, if you bought something today that was made of really good material, you probably get to have it for a lifetime, you know, it's like, I knew my dad was a mover in England. So we moved people's furniture for a house to house and whatever. We'd move, um, you know, wardrobes that were like oak wardrobes, heavy as fuck.

They looked pristine because you just can't really damage them even if you like kicked them. Right. And they, you know, were like over a hundred years old, And they, you know, were like over a hundred years old sometimes. And that wasn't super uncommon. And it's like passed down from generation to generation and they're going nowhere, dude. Right. So who gives a shit what it costs if you get to keep it that long?

Well, and they mentioned, you know, shipping all this stuff back to the United States, right? The amount of gasoline and just fossil fuels alone to get all this stuff shipped back and forth every fricking day is insane. Well, it's absurd. And what's worse than that, even if it was like easy to transport it, and it didn't cause all this fossil fuels, right? Let's say they had nuclear powered boats, and we found a way to have no Emissions for any of it. It's like why are we sending everything so far because it's cheap like make what you need in your area

right and and then also Covert dude. Yeah as soon as there's another thing like that We're not getting shit from the other side of the world right people aren't sending Stuff around so we just run out of everything right away. Well, and that was the, that we didn't talk about this with Baker. We, we kind of missed that subject, but I would like to point out where he says we, we're keeping all of our minerals in the ground. That's not going to get us anywhere. We're just going to have to keep buying it and importing it from other countries like China.

Just like we do our furniture, just like we do our clothes. We've really got to get back to building stuff here. That's freaking outly. I mean, we could set the standard for like really good environmental conditions for mining. Made in the USA, dude. I could actually.

Okay. Well, one thing that did stand out, they were talking about Billy Mays and the Shamwale guy for a second. Oh, right All right. Right. And they kind of started with that. Co-head. And yeah.

Yeah. Good old Billy Mays. He was a legend, by the way. I love that guy. Could sell anything, dude. You give him anything and a crowd. He'd sell it. Yeah.

You know what? You put that good. You give me on cocaine. I'll sell anything too. Let's go. Well, but that's the thing. And he he asked Jamie to like look something up and Jamie and I've never heard Jamie say this.

He was like, I don't really want to get into it. And Rogan was like, you don't want to get into it. Yeah. And Jamie was like, well, I'm friends with his son. And Rogan's like, oh shit. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry.

And I love that because it's like, you know, just deep respect from Rogan to be like, you're right, let's not get into it. And then just like, I don't know, it was just like a personal touch that was just interesting. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even write that down. Yeah, Rho, Jamie's the producer, but the guy that Google's thinks.

Right, no one knows who Jamie is, obviously. Yeah, of course, but I'm just saying that's his role. Yeah. So for him now to be in a position to be like, you know what? I don't want to Google that one. Right. If that's cool. All right. Well, I have it like that was cool. I appreciate you saying that because I forgot that that even happened. How about the these last three notes, I think, are important to bring up. We're at 45 minutes, but I think we should do a few more here. Ancestry.com was bought for $4.7 billion. Oh, yeah. Okay. How scary is that? Who bought it? Do they know who bought it?

I think it's like the black rock guys, dude. Dude, is it? No fucking way. Yeah. No, it's basically have the data bank for all it's one of them. No, I got to look that up. I got to look that up. But then the China's credit score, I had to throw that in there too. The Chinese credit score, we talk about this a lot. It's important to bring it up guys. Don't let the government take over your fricking social credit score. This is not good.

This is a very alarming thing that is happening. We, we, the first amendment people, let's not forget about the first amendment. Number one, freedom of speech. We cannot let them take over AI. We cannot let them take over chat GBT and we cannot let them take over our bank accounts. Trudeau was already doing this months ago, the frickin' stall in people's bank accounts for protesting. This is scary shit people and keep your guns. Okay. This is coming from a guy who doesn't even own a gun. Keep them. Let's go. So it was so it was blackstone group. Come on. Yeah, they bought

it 4.7 billion. Wait, and they is that company really worth that or is it that they just want everyone's DNA? They want everyone's info. Dude, that is so freaky. That's some 1984 freaking nature shit right there. Blackstone is the same as BlackRock. Or am I getting, I'm getting BlackRock confused from, uh, from the, the Native American, uh, BlackRock, uh, pipeline, Blackstone. Let's see, Blackstone, what is that? They're, they own like the,

they're the biggest traders in the nation, right? Is Blackstone? Oh, no. So look, founded in 1985, both Blackstone and BlackRock fell under an umbrella called, a company called Blackstone Financial Manager. So it's the same. A merger and acquisitions company. Oh my god. 1988 black rock separated from the parent company and focused on risk management. Today, they are now completely separate companies with different offerings. I don't believe it. Well, that's helpadvisor.com. So the blackstone group, the Carlisle group.

But you know, they're just in a way similar that giant acquisition companies. They're in the top two shitload of money They're both in the top 10 of private equity firms by total equity Okay, so they run our country people and they just bought ancestry comm so glad I never freaking sent my DNA to those jerk offs Yeah, never did you don't you don't even really need to. In fact, they'll find you. So, well, for example, people have committed crimes like there's been serial killers. And this is actually kind of a good thing. And this worked out this way. Yeah. But unless, unless they start framing people, then you're fucked. But I guess there was the serial killer that they had the DNA off,

but they didn't know who it was. Right. And he was showing up now. Why? And then someone in his family sent their shit to, right? I think Ancestor Redoc. It was. I remember that or 23 and me or something. That's it. It may be 23 and me, but they basically, they, they just found the person and they're like, Hey, you're related to This serial killer. We need to go through your family.

They have his 10 and they found them. Oh, it was the Golden State killer dude. This happened in 2018 is the one I'm looking up. Yeah, it's a big deal. Man, the Golden State killer Joseph James, DeAngelo 72 former police officer was arrested on Tuesday, booked on two counts of murder, 45 rapes, 12 murders that began more than 40 years ago, genealogical sites to find a DNA match were used. Wow, oh, that gives me goosebumps, dude. Well, how freaky is that? That was from, yeah,

ancestry and 23 me. It doesn't say exactly which one it came from. It just mentions, but they would, you know, they would have never found them otherwise. Oh, that gives me goose bumps, dude. Yeah, crazy. All right. Well, that's what they should be using them for. They shouldn't, like companies like Blackstone and BlackRock buying ancestrycestry.com, that is a huge, huge, huge warning people. What is that? If the red flag, that's a red flag. They, I mean, that's just, that's got social credit score written right. Oh, all over it.

Mm hmm. Don't you think that that's, that's, that's a warning. Imagine if they start labeling types of DNA. It's like, oh, you're connected to this family and everyone in this family has a low social credit score. So just because you have the same DNA, that's a hit on your credit. Like, who knows how far this shake you go? Gary, dude. Yeah. Let's keep predictive. Let's keep chat GPC open people. Open AI. Open AI.

All right, let's call it for today. We appreciate you guys as always. Thank you. Check out these podcasts. They were fun times. My Bakers one might freak you out a little bit. So if you're suffering from any anxiety right now about what's going on in the world, maybe give that one a skip because it might stress you out more. Listen to Tim Dylan from last week. Just listen to the sun. Tim Dylan. See you stuff up. Oh, and anyway, as always, we appreciate you guys, and we will talk to you next week. All right, Shelby's out.

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