Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 343 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Hulk Hogan Et al.

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

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Enjoy the show. What's happening, my brother? Are you ringing us in today here, son? Yeah, what's up, guys? Welcome to the Joe Rogan experience review. Sorry, I was like Just off in my own little daydream in world. Yeah, sitting to our entrap Well because I haven't been hearing it recently because of the new way we're recording And I'm like, oh, I could hear it today and it just sounded different. Well, you're just don't know why I did that

You're just hungover settle down My baby. What am I not let's go over settle down. My let's go. Why not? Let's go. Welcome to the show everybody. This week we got some pretty interesting guests. Brian Keating, Professor of Physics, smart dude. We'll just have a little smart Hulk, the mother fucking

Hulk, a mania. Let's go. And then David, Dave Smith, Dave Smith. I've got a feeling Dave Smith's gonna be on often I think Joe really enjoys these conversations with this guy. I think Joe's becoming a libertarian son. I love it Yeah, Smith Smith is a smart one Smith is a smart one He is and he's a good comic too, so you know, he can always be at the store and and he's a good comic too. So, you know, he can always be at the store and so interesting when he's on the pod too.

Like, if you only knew him, either from the pods or from his political stuff, you'd have no idea that he's a comedian. No, not at all. Not at all. He really, really like, you know, because a lot of these guys that are comedians will come on and even cover political stuff like Dylan does. And, you know, he's still funny though, right? It's still like,

oh, that comedian's their silly. He put, but, um, Dave is like, he's in the zone. He's, he's got all this stuff. He's serious guy. Yeah. Serious guy. But it, but it works. It's important. There's a lot of good information that they got to get in there. It's like, he's not trying to impress you by being silly and cracking jokes. He's like, I got something important to say here. Well, let's jump into Brian Keating. Keating. So he did win the Nobel Prize, right? Yes. What it was?

Well, the Google. No, no, the book I Googled as well. So he wrote a book called the, the excuse me I looked this up as well blah blah blah blah I've got it up here I think it's called let's see here right here Brian Keating uh losing the Nobel Prize the inside story of a quest to unlock one of cosmologies biggest mysteries derailed by the lure of the Nobel Prize. So basically, what he's saying is you have these scientists who are, you know, want something so bad. Clearly, he wanted to win the Nobel Prize. He talks about how his father never won it and was pissed off,

and he wanted to, you know, this is something that he's always wanted as a child. And I think the idea there is that the ambition that they're driven by in pursuit of Nobel gold, it's like they're getting deceived from the real idea of what they're doing science for, right? It's just like anything. I get it. Yeah, that's right. That's really what he was getting to. You know, did, uh, did, you know, did fucking, um, excuse me, did Kurt Cobain want to be

famous hell now? He drove him to eventually kill himself. If he believed that he killed himself, that's a whole other story. Uh, Courtney love. I don't know. Anyway, uh, yeah, man, I think if you're a true scientist, right, you don't want to be lured by those things, but clearly he was. And I think it's cool that he wrote a whole book about being lured by it, right? Yeah, yeah, I mean, the pursuit

for certain things, it's like it makes sense, You know, it makes sense that the, I don't know, there's like a price to be paid, right? It's like that glory is. Well, look, clearly this kid has been a kid. I, he's probably a little bit younger than us. Is he 51? He looks young. Yeah.

But I mean, he was five years old, you know, he kind of always knew he wanted this, right? It sounds like his dad was a scientist and big into math and that sort of thing. So it was something that he's always wanted to do. And he even said he always wanted the Nobel Prize. That's kind of a crazy goal, right? Like I just want to maybe learn how to play guitar. No, I want, I want to win the Nobel Prize.

No big deal. It's, it's certainly ambitious. Maybe I could learn Spanish. You know, I'd like to be, you know, I'd like to go. I mean, first off, I'd like to say he, this is what I really enjoyed about him is one, he obviously is really enjoying podcasting. Yeah. Right. You know, his show is, I listened to some bits of his own show. Nice. And it's, it's picking up steam. You know, obviously there there's gonna be a rogan bump with it. It's not a huge show yet, but it's good. And he is an excellent science communicator.

So many of these super smart scientists are just kind of, I don't know, dare I say like just too nerdy to like really be able to explain what's happening So the best you get often is like really good Teachers or professors in this subject that have specialized because they've learned to communicate these really complicated things and he just had a fun way of doing it, you know I it was like engaging.

You know, he wasn't like super nerdy to where it's like, you know, you're rolling your eyes at the silly things that he's saying, enthusiastic the whole time. And you know, even when he was talking really quickly and just like rattling off points and jumping from one idea to the next, I mean, sometimes that's a lot. Sometimes when you're listening to a podcast, especially for hours, which is what Rogan's platform is, it's just like, oh, dude, slow down. Like, take a breath. Well, Joe kept bringing him back. Joe did a really good job of like, hey, we're getting off topic. He must have said it five times. We're getting off topic. Let's go back to

what we were talking about. Right. I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't so of like, Hey, we're getting off topic. He must have said it five times. We're getting off topic. Let's go back to what we were talking about. Right. I mean, it wasn't so much like, you know, that that will often happen when he has like famous rock stars on there. Rock stars seem to do it. They just like waffle on and go on crazy tangents. And they're like just very difficult to pay attention to. At least with him, he would just jump from like one factoid to another. And, you know, for Joe, I think it was just a few points where he didn't like clearly answer the question, you know, especially with the UFO thing. So he was talking about why he doesn't necessarily believe there's other aliens. But then we'd give all these different examples. And I think it was just getting away from the point for Joe, but the amount of information. Like he, you just got the sense that he

knew what the fuck he was talking about for sure. He's in a lot of areas. It wasn't just physics. Like the guy who has a ton of information in that big head of his. Yeah. It was cool, man. And, and I think to go back to your point of this. Yeah, it was cool, man. And I think to go back to your point of this whole, I talk well, he talks well, he's not your typical nerdy scientist who doesn't get behind a microphone. But that is how you sell things.

You need to get funded. And I think that's what a lot of his book is talking about. I haven't read the book, but from the prologue that I read, it seems to be like the only way you're going to get ahead in science, you have to be an influencer a little bit, you know. There's a reason why Elon Musk is so influential, even though he's kind of a crazy weirdo, he's good at getting in front of people, he's good at getting the press, he's good at whether he's good at talking or not, he's doing enough of it

in front of the press and getting it out there enough to where people are talking about it and you're not gonna get funded for science if it's not being talked about. You can't just sit the whole and fucking, you know, create a telescope without funding. I mean, they didn't even talk about how much this bicep to cost, but good God, it must be billions of dollars

to create this telescope. I would think I have no idea. Maybe I should look that up, but yeah, pretty freaking cold. 17,000. It is, it's, you know, it's interesting to be like, you know, this is why these guys are so important, right? Whether it's Neil deGrasse Tyson or him or the, what was was he Maku? Who's the agent that you, that you Kaku, that guy's legend. Love him. I mean, because they make you so interested in it and it sounds cool, the shit they're doing. Right. Right. You don't just think, oh, they're looking at space. What a bunch of nerds. You're just like, man, this is great. We got to build this thing. Yeah. We got to find out more answers about stuff.

It's like every interesting, I know we talked about Rogan shooting that tweet out. Yep, you'll that Instagram post about the universe being twice as old as it was. And you know what we thought it was. It was cool for Brian to like put that kind of to bed Yeah, what did they say to expect the 26 billion years they were saying? Yeah, but that's kind of like the bunk thing like as far as we know it's still 13 point whatever and it's like You know, okay good

You know even though it sounded cool that we were it was older I was just like wait a second. It was like unnerving to hear that because then you're like oh shit Like we that clueless that we don't know Podcast is brought to you by draft King step into a world of non-stop action on draft Kings casino play the classics like Blackjack roulette andots Plus enjoy exclusive games you can't find anywhere else. Right now new customers can get a deposit match up to $100 in casino credits when you deposit $5 or more. All you have to do is sign up, select the offer, make your deposit and start playing from

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Like the thing we know some stuff. Well, tell me Brian. Tell me Brian. Clearly Brian Keating knows, but I'm not getting a, well, it looks like there's a bicep three now. Is that a whole different thing? Hmm, I'm trying to get thought of course. Of course.

Well, they're not going to tell us how much it cost, you know? I mean, this was back in, yeah, and this is a totally different thing, cosmic microwave background equipment. Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, it's above my head. No worries. No worries. The biggest astrophysics discovery of the century may have been wrong. This was in 2014. This is talking about the bicep to.

So the bicep to is an Antarctica. The one that he is building currently is not finished. Is that the thing? Are they just now finishing it? This one and Chile? Oh, I don't think it's finished. Okay. So I need to figure that out. I need to figure that out. I thought the, yeah, I think a lot of what he was talking about this moral obligation that scientists have to tell the truth that resonated with me quite a bit of just, look, we need to tell people the truth. I mean, we get so much, you know, so many facts skewed,

and so many things, we don't even know if A.I.s talking about it, or if it's even real anymore, and scientists have a moral obligation. I really, I started that one because that was just cool to hear, man, because, you know, a lot of the times, it does get skewed, and a lot of people don't believe in science, or they only, you know, there's a lot of people don't believe in science or they only put you know There's a lot of religious people who think science is

Bunk or whatever. It's like no, we're just we're just here trying to find the truth That is the point of science. It's just a bunch of theories they get tested over and over and over We're just trying to figure out the fucking answer, right? That is science Yeah, and what should be I know there's still biases, there's still, you know, they're going to make mistakes. And, you know, I always think it's great when a scientist is like, you know, humble enough to say, yeah, I may be seen as like one of the smartest people in my field, but honestly, we don't know what is even true. Right.

It's like, this is the best that we think that we figure it out. And most of its hypotheses and a lot of it will be proved wrong eventually, but this is the best we got right now. You know, instead of saying, that's the truth, this is how it is. This is, it's A plus B equals C, and that's the answer. You know, I don't know, that kind of thing gives me some more confidence Pretty cool buddy. Let's jump on to Galileo dude. Mmm. What a guy this guy is obviously big fan of Galileo huge fan Huge fan of gal Was he in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure? I can't remember Galileo was it was part of that crew was so great I think so I know Einstein was in there What do they do in the second one?

They went back in time and like, grab all the smartest people in the universe or something. Yeah. Yeah. With Ruffio, Frick and George Carlin. I thought that was the first one. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. The second one was a little bit different. They did go back. I fuck who knows? That was like, came out ladies. It's blurring. But anyway, try to invent the watch. You forget that we haven't had fucking clocks for like more than what, 300 years? Yeah, yep. Okay, is that everything was a sundial?

How did anyone meet up? You're like, yeah, I'll meet you over there. Well, around. They're all, I mean, they're not driving around in cars, so they're all just walking around the goddamn city. They're like, hey, meet me at the pub, a K a the hot pools with your, you know, with the wine that has some, you know, uh, masculine in that. No, it's not. Or got. Thank you. Yeah. Meet me, meet me in the pools. We're going to trip out. We're going to talk about philosophy. I mean, how dope is that? Let's go. Yeah, but how did they figure out when to meet up? I mean, people could

be on horses and go to like the next village or whatever. I guess they knew like days. Well, they was like, I'll see you tomorrow. Honestly, it's like half past Leo's ass a quarter to fucking aquariums balls, dude. That like when it when the sky hits that point of aquariums balls, that's where we, that's when we go to the hot pools. The okay. I believe it. And that is excellent. Everyone has a team of school. Funny as to you, you've ever said that just I just, I just had that one right there.

I like it. Um, yeah, I mean, it kind of seems like that's how they would have done it, right? Yeah. Some fucking. Yeah, everyone's got to tell us, go up, get a neurology. There you go, you're looking at the stars. All right, so John Harris in 1759, a clockmaker from Yorkshire County, UK.

Sounds like a solve the problem of longitude by inventing a timepiece that could tell the correct time at sea. Pretty dope. There you go. Yeah. time at sea. Pretty dope. There you go. Yeah. So a little clock. Pretty cool. So what else did he make?

Galileo obviously knew a lot about the stars. I mean, he, that's how he, that's how they fucking, you know, navigated ships back then, right? Galileo Galileo Galilei. I mean, how fucking sweet is that? Galileo, divasinterio, Bonnale, lute, de Galilei, commonly referred to as Galileo was an Italian astronomer, physicist,

and engineer, sometimes described as a polymath. I don't even know what that means. What does it say? Born in February 15th on a word. He's an aquarium, bro, of course. No, no, what did it say though in February 15th on word? He's an aquarium bro. Of course No, what what it is say though a poly what? He is sometimes described as a polymath Should we look up with polymath means I better just means like someone that can do all sorts of shit a person of a wide-ranging

Knowledge or learning okay, so you know exactly you're're a polymath. You're a polymath. Good job. Yeah. Born February 15th, 1564. Pretty dope. Yeah. Did some good stuff. Live to like 80. Father of observational astronomy. He studied speed and velocity, gravity and freefall, principal of relativity, inertia. He invented the thermoscope in various military compasses and used the telescope for scientific observations. I always thought of him as just the guy who made the telescope, right? I didn't even know about this other stuff. Well, the big thing for him was that he figured out really clearly that the, we go around the sun and the sun doesn't go around us.

So we're not the center of the universe, right? And the church did not like that. And they were pretty pissed off. And it's all about Brian. The church still hasn't officially forgiven him. Well pardon him or whatever. Yeah. so met with opposition that the church, you know, take some time, take some time to make some choices though. So, well, it contradicted the Holy Scripture Adam and that is a absolute no-no because they control the world at the time.

They don't want to lose their power. In the Bible, that we're in the middle. Ah. You're gonna have to ask somebody who knows the Bible. I don't know the Bible. Well, but either way, they would they would not be happy about it. I do know that I was God fearing up until about the age of 12. And then once I got through Catechism, I was like, fuck that noise. So yeah, so Galileo was the man. What else do we have here, dude?

The very low probability that aliens are real. Let's get into that before we switch over to the whole communia. I'm not, yeah, I'm not convinced with that, that's what he was saying that I mean, he wasn't being convincing. He kind of went around the circle. I mean, I get it. Like if he's just dealing with percentages and likelihoods, I mean, you know, the most convincing part of that argument really, and remember,

I'm super biased because I want to believe that, that is that he is looking out into space all the time and looking at microwave radiation always. It's like very good at this, one of the best in the world probably. And, you know, it's like, where, like, there's no signals that they're picking up for shit flying here. So, yeah, you would think they'd talk to us and that was a compelling argument.

Like, hey, if aliens are here, they would be talking to us somehow. Even if their crafts aren't showing up here, he's saying, yeah, like we would hear from them. So. Yeah, there would just be something, you know, they could pick up on the likelihood that there's not life on Mars, even though there could be that, that was, that was somewhat compelling too, but isn't Mars too fucking hot

anyways? No, dude, Mars is cold, I think. Oh, okay. Well, either way, further away, what he's saying is that the closest planet to us is Mars. Right? That's what he's saying. And there's no life on Mars, but there could have been.

Right? Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, maybe there was a nuclear war there. Let's go. Let's go. Post Malone. I don't know. I mean, maybe there was a nuclear war there. Let's go. Let's go post Malone. I loved his theory about the noxious or whatever that was, the gas that they're finding that could have been from nuclear explosions.

What was the zion? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it could have a nuclear war up there. But yeah, same framer, you know, and Ryan Graves, yes, they saw it on radar, but he's still not convinced that, you know, that that hurt a little because this guy is obviously so fucking smart. And you just want to believe, you want to believe. And it's getting harder

and harder to believe, especially. I remember though, like, and sorry to cut you off, but remember, basically, these scientists, they, when you believe in science, you're trying to find facts. Right. That's a big part of what you're doing, right? You're in a sense, you're a detective of the universe, and you need hard evidence. And facts are tangible things. That really hasn't been presented. Like what we have is a scam through instrumentation. And there's the potential for that to not be functioning well or correct, right? I hear you. So even though I'm not on its side for that one, it's like, yeah, it's not illogical. It doesn't make me hear him and think he's less credible.

I'm like, I appreciate what he's saying. And I'm like, yeah, that's probably something we should pay attention to a little bit. Love that. I got one more thing to say and then let's move over to the Hulk. I appreciated the last question that was presented to Joe by Brian, which was, if you could go back and give yourself 30 seconds

when you're 20 years old, what would you tell your 20 year old soul? Yeah, that was just fucking great. He's like, nothing. Life is a grind, go through it. I got nothing. You know what, I'd really liked about that is like, Rogan, you know, he, like, that's really what he thought about. I don't know if he'd ever been asked that or even considered the question. He knew it right away planned. And I don't think anyone would answer that question like that. No, I would almost everyone has an answer. And honestly, I would think that I would have stuff to say until I heard what Joe said about it. And then I'm like, you know what? I'm fucking on board with you, Joe. You liked that because yeah, I thought it was great. You wouldn't tell yourself anything.

I don't think I'd listen. I don't think I'd believe it and I don't think it would help. And you know what? Let's say I did, right? Let's say I listened. I was like, oh shit, that's me from the future. And like that's someone I can trust that obviously trying to help me, right? Because it's me.

You know, then you might obsess about whatever that thing is. And I don't know, for short of it, or just not be ready to hear it, so you can't even process it the right way. It's like, I don't know, man. I think it would almost be cooler just to be like, hey brother, enjoy the ride. It's gonna be wild.

Appreciate as much as you can. Yeah, you know what I would say. This is what I would tell myself. I would straight up be like what I would tell myself. I would straight up be like, look, life is hard. You're going to go through a lot, but just try to focus on your friendships and, you know, being the most loving person you can be and trying to be the most positive person.

You can be, don't let the negativity get in the way. And I know that's so cliche, but like I've spent so many days overthinking things and like thinking like, oh, what could I have done to change things? And then ultimately, everything ends up working out and being for the better, even when you're going through it, it doesn't feel that way. You get through it and you're like, oh, fuck that needed to happen. Even though it sucked so bad. Yeah. So really just being like, hey, all the negative shit that you have to go through, it, you're just going to have to get through it, maybe with a little bit more, with like a little bit less anger, you know, so anyway, you sure you don't want to say,

listen, young retard. Just wait till you meet someone called Adam and then listen to that Okay, there you go. There you go. That's good movie not do be not moving on dot org. All right the Hulk come on Oh, that's what he go what an absolute legend. I mean come on dude Think about what he's done isn't he like 70 70 now? How old is Hulk actually? Yeah, 70 years old. He's got a wrestling in 97. I got to see some old photos of Hulk with the long hair in a rock and roll band He mentioned that he was in a rock and roll it on like 85 times. So I'm gonna pull it up But I've got a lot of notes. Why don't you start? I'm gonna pull up a full of six foot seven You know freaking almost 300 pounds. He's six seven. I think Jesus.

Yeah, he's, well, he was. You remember he's like six four now, because he's had a lot of back surgeries. Oh, right, right, right. Hulk in a rock band. You know, I appreciated this was towards the end, but man, did I appreciate him believing in the law of attraction.

That's what's up. Love that. I love the secret. Yeah, he seemed the law of attraction. That's what's up. Love that. I love the same thing. Yeah, he seemed real positive outlook. I mean, and he was like humble, you know, he didn't sound like all that braggadocious on that. He sounds like a sweet guy. For sure. Oh, yeah. And here we go. Here we go. I wish you guys could see this right now uncovering the facts about the musical past of whole Cogan. Oh, he looks so dope. He's got a fucking do rag on. He's got glasses and long

ass blonde hair. Yes. That's all I wish you could find some of his songs. Bass player in a band called Ruckus before finding his calling and wrestling whole Cogan. Terry Balea, right? His real name is Terry Balea, was a long-haired bass player in a band called Ruckus. Little did he realize how much his life would change after playing a gig in Daytona. All right.

Damn. Anyway, Ruckus was my last band, he says. Luckian. He wasn't a big sports guy. He just wanted to play guitar. And then that, you know, they start out at towards the beginning there of talking about him going to what was it? Some sort of training spot or gym that he would go to and the fucking dude broke his leg

on purpose. What was that all about? Yeah. It's a dude back in the day. He was saying it was like, it was a brutal environment. You know, they were like, all these territories and they were all broken up. There's actually a great little documentary on wrestling and how the WWE guy, Vince McMahon, like really kind of combined it, like taking over all the territories and making it the ginormous sport that is become or like Entertainment thing. It's not sport, right? Was that but Vince McMahon senior or junior?

Junior, okay. Yeah, the dad The respected the lines respected the territories was like don't cross those because you know these guys would freaking go to war with each other I mean it was it was a brutal time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, and also the business was brutal. It was like, we want to see what you're made of. Like, let's find out if you can hang. And if you stick around after we abuse you, you can stay. I mean, yeah, talk about fucking putting the work in. I bet these guys have a lot of respect for each other. And you hear like as he he would say we hate each other for a long time and but now we're cool and we hang out and we make fun of each other it's like the respect comes in but there was They sounded like a lot of aggressive you know play going on pretty cool. I'm, I'm reading kind of this history here and

the, and he did go into the bed. I need to take a piss anyway. All right. So he says, I'm reading this, this from pro wrestling stories.com. It says that one of the late great wrestlers named Jack Briscoe was the world's heavyweight champion back in the day. So this would have been 1970. It looks like Jack Brisco saw Hogan's band playing. And he says, I went to this nightclub called the other place. It was about midnight. I walked in standing there was, was whole Kogan playing guitar in a band.

He was so impressive. It was only 21 years old at the time. God damn, I thought if I had that boy, I could become rich. And then he laughs and parentheticals. They went on break, I came over to him at the table for a beer. I asked him, did you ever think about being a pro wrestler and Hogan answers, it's what I've always wanted to do. I'm a big fan of yours.

I've been watching you for years. I've always wanted to do that. Goes on to him saying he introduced him to Eddie Graham and hero Matsuda. Hero Matsuda was the guy who ran the gym in Florida. And looks like that's how he kind of got started in the wrestling world. It's pretty dope. Yeah. That's fucking cool. I mean, think, you know, think of just how massive he was. It's like, of course, he'd be great for something like that. And you just don't see human beings like that talking about human beings you don't see existing Brock Lesnar they talked about. So obviously Hulk and Brock know each other for a while. They've been working together all the rest of it. And just talking about how committee is, how, what, what a super athlete. When Rogan pull of his stats, he runs a 40 and 47,

can bench 225, 35 times. Killin' it. A 10 foot, what was it? A 10 foot long jump or a 10 foot something? Is that what it was? I didn't write notes. I know. Dude, the guy is, it is like, that's incredible to move a body that quickly. That's so huge. Brock is an unbelievable athlete. And here's the thing, Todd, and you may not know this, but, you know, I'll, obviously, I'm a big UFC guy. Brock came over from WWE, got into, um,

right now he was a great collegiate wrestler. Like he literally had like a hundred, um, win streak record in college. I don't think like any other beat him. He's like a hundred and maybe one last. I don't know. Yeah, he crushed it. like any one beat him. He was like crazy. And maybe one loss. I don't know.

Yeah, he crushed it. Then when I played football, then he did WWE. But then he went over to the UFC, right? And he fucking became the heavyweight champion. I mean, he was terrifying when he was on top. And this was how you smash in people. Hmm, when did he do that? 2008?

Okay. I think somewhere around there. See, I remember being in New Mexico. I remember watching it with my, you know, I'll boy, Dave. Good old Dave, shout out to Dave. Dave, one of his friends was over at Dave's house. We were watching the fights and his very first fight,

he was up against a legend. I can't remember the guy's name. It was like crazy horse or Fuck I can't remember anyway. That was like snake man It and Brock just comes out and just barrel charges him and just Like freaking tackles him into the case like smash is him And it was at that moment we looked at each other and I was like, dude, this guy is going to be something serious. Because we weren't sure what to think of it.

We were like, he's WWE, he's not going to know how to fight. These guys are going to be the fuck out of him. Not true. Not true. He's kind of underrated, man. People talk a lot of shit about Brock, but yeah. I appreciate it having Tony on there, right? Because Tony is such a wrestling fan. I mean, we're the

same age with Tony's what maybe a couple years younger than us, but he was way into W WF back in the day. And I remember going over to my body. Robbie, Robbie Goldman's house, who knows if the kids even alive anymore, but his parents were loaded and they always had the frickin W WF, you know, paper view back in the late 80s. And that, you know, I was hooked on that. As a young kid, I might have been what, like eight years old at the time, six years old, something like that when those were happening with Andre the giant and, you know, all the people, frickin' Jake the snake, Hogan, you know, Macho Man Randy Savage. That was such a big part of my childhood that I can remember.

And so Hogan does that and he ends up being the champion and getting the belt, right, on one of those. I mean, we Hogan, Mania, WrestleMania went for fucking probably what eight years, ten years. And then he, he, and he's gone from that. And then, McMahon brings him back. He signs on with Ted Turner, right? I didn't realize Turner was, was part of that company back then, man brings him back. He signs on with Ted Turner, right? I didn't realize Turner was part of that company back then, right? Would that was either, yeah, that was kind of interesting.

Was that man or something else? It was just a different broadcasting network. Signs Hogan, and then he comes back on to fight the rock. How dope was that? I had no idea. I mean, any of that happened, right? Cause I just stopped watching wrestling after the early 90s. It just wasn't a thing I did. Clearly that was just as big. If not bigger, when

Hogan comes back on, and this is at that point, now it's WWE, right? It's Vince McMahon show. It's because they got to see by the world. The world life federation or something. Over the fucking did they call me? Yeah. Fuck me. I didn't know that. So anyway, like the rock is what in his 20s and Hogan's up there in his 50s like early 50s and they're just going to town. And it was so fun to hear those old stories of just him wanting to be this bad guy and just everyone just loved it. It didn't matter. It was Hulk. It didn't matter.

Everyone loves Hulk, okay. Come on. Dude, I went to, so back in, I think it was like 2000, and my guess would be like five, 2005, I would say. In Ohio, I had some buddies coming over from England, and I just got them tickets to the WWE because it was coming to Cleveland. And I never watched it live and hadn't watched it for years.

But I was like, let's go check it out. That'd be fun. We're all over blast. I was in my early 20s. Dude, the atmosphere of those things is insane. Like, it just is the wireless energy event. Like forget really any sporting event you've ever been to people lose their fucking minds And what was also about it so Hulk had like kind of Hulk Hogan and kind of retired then so no one expected him to be there

He shows up come on You know, he gets in the ring does his whole hand waving like listen to the crowd thing in every area He didn't actually wrestle, but he just came out just to make an appearance and that place was on fire. It was honestly like one of the funnest kind of events I'd been to. And that includes like good concerts and stuff, just because of the vibe though, and the energy.

I'm sure. It was out of control. What do you think about how many times he used to have to perform? And how absolutely brutal that sounds. Well, I reminded me of the American gladiators. I don't know if you saw that documentary that came out recently and within the last year. I have just how good. Yeah, it just taught, it was just reminded me of that because you know, they talk about how every night they had to go out and just get their ass beat

and perform every single night. And they're just, they're going back on the bus every night and traveling to different, you know, spots just like Hogan was doing. It's like you're just in an ice bath for every minute you're off of that platform or that stage, you're in an ice bath basically. And it was in, I was just think there's so many of them get addicted to painkillers. I mean, He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy.

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Routy, Routy, Piper, all those guys. Who knows where they're at? There was the guy that helped Jake the snake out. Dallas Diamond Dallas. Can't remember that guy. He's another wrestler, but he has like, He's another wrestler, but he has like He basically will take these guys in and then they do like these yoga programs and then they you know All right, like we them sells off and get strong again and get moving Well, just think about how fucked up all their their bones and their backs and arthritis and all this stuff I mean you when you see that Jake the snake documentary can't walk. And then yeah, he starts doing yoga. He's gets off the pills. I'm hopefully still clean. Shout out to Jake, the snake hopefully is keeping it real. But man, he was a mess.

He was a freaking mess. And think of that guy was like, it was like Hogan. Same thing. He was, he was the, the world heavyweight champion for a while. Was he not? I'm pretty sure he just breaks my heart to think that these like basically these guys was superheroes to us. Oh, yeah, if you think about it, they really are. It's like, oh, it's fortunate. You know, I mean, they're like superheroes. So like to see them get old and not be at a move like that is.

It's all breaking. It is. It is like the price they had to pay to be that. Oh, Jake Roberts never won a world title. Hmm. Maybe that's why I started drinking poor guy. That's a bullshit. Oh, well, either way, I remember him being one of the biggest, you know, wrestlers at

that time. Oh, it's Brian Dallas page. Of course it is. He's the guy that's like really been helping people. Nice. And doing the yoga and he helped Jake the snake. And yeah, he was great on Rogan. I really liked that guy too.

Fuck yeah, he should have Jake the snake on next. He's had him on. Oh yes. Yeah, Rogan had him on. I didn't know. And again, Tony was there. Tony fucking loves it. Geeks out so hard.

And what I love about it is like like he doesn't even say a lot. He just wants to be there and enjoy it. Mm-hmm. Be a part of it. Mm-hmm. You know, and he's like ripping on Hogan for not knowing how to Google things. Dude, I liked his attitude. I thought he was super positive. Absolutely. I liked that he's like humble. He's about caring about people. You know, he's obviously leaning to a religion for guidance. Good for him. And keeping him straight and he seems happy. He's got another hot blonde.

He's got another hot blonde. He couldn't, he couldn't stray away from the blondes. You know, she's like 20 years younger than him. He loves their kids. I mean, it's hard to mean, good for him, man. Hell yeah. Well, lastly, before we move on, what about him working with Stallone and Mr. T?

How dope is that? 18, baby. Yeah. I didn't realize there was in that movie back in the day was Stallone. You know, it was. Yeah, I didn't, that wasn't from Rocky. That was something else. Oh, it was. Oh, it was. Rocky, dude. Yeah. Clearly I haven't so Rocky. So in was that Rocky, I was Rocky too. Huh. I gotta have to watch those again. Yeah. So I'm pretty sure it was Rocky too. Um, because he lifted him up

and just frickin body slammed his ass. He said he fucked up his shoulder when he did it. Or collarbone. Was that Rocky II? I see, I don't remember that. I remember. I remember. Oh, Hulk Hogan's appearance in Rocky III. Rocky III, okay.

Rocky III, 1982. So basically what it was is, Stallone is like the champ now, right? Cause he won the title and the second one. And it was a charity event that they had put on in the movie. So like how they set it up. So it was like Resilos versus Boxes.

And, you know, it's that whole thing about a wrestler's fake. And, you know, they broke Rocky into like, in that box. And Apollo Creed helped train him. Okay, I'm remembering he was in that too. And Apollo Creed, Apollo Creed helped help train him. Okay, I'm remembering now. Okay.

Yeah. And yeah, he just freaking gets his ass beat by Hulk Ogan, who's like having a great time. I love it. Just throwing him all over the place. That's awesome. He only got paid 14,000 for that too. I mean, that's, that's a lot of money in 1982. I guess you could say it's like, I don't know what that would be today, maybe 50 grand,

but it's not a lot for a movie. I mean, not when Rocky III was the fourth highest grossing film at the domestic box office in 1982 worldwide. And the theme song I have the Tiger was obviously the best theme song in the world. Of all time. Yeah. It's freaking up. If you don't listen to that, you get pumped. There is something wrong. I forgot that that was Rocky's theme song. Rocky 3. Nice. Dude, I have a tie. Alright, buddy, well, anyway, check that one out. Let's, let's move on. Move over to what's his name? Dave Smith, Dave David Dave Smith, the libertarian, got a love back. Yeah, again, I mean, heady, I don't want to go on

too, my daddy. What are we at time wise? We're at 41 minutes, my friend. Okay. Yeah, let's, let's make it kind of short. I mean, listen, it's interesting, right? And, you know, they jump on a lot of points. I mean, Biden, Ukraine, Hunter, the ties there. 9-11. There's some funny business going on. Yeah, 9-11 stuff. 911 there's some funny business going on. Yeah, 9 11 stuff. It awes, you know, they're flying the Saudis out, they're flying, you know, bin Laden's family out. It's like how how do people like we people know this happened and it's just kind of glossed over. Or you know, yeah, for talking about it.

People think you're nuts. And it's just like, okay, I guess we want to live in like a pretend reality most of the time. You know, we were like, no, no, no, that couldn't possibly be like that because that would mean that the government is all fucked up. And I'm like, I think it might be. Of course, of course it is. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it looked, it was a Heide one, but man, was it, it was informational and absolutely worth talking about. Yeah, one bit also when they brought up Sam Harris and, you know, obviously, Supersmart Guy speaks well, I've always been a fan, but recently he has been on this thing about being behind like we've lost trust in these institutions, you know, FDA Of course we have science, you know in general blah blah blah, and then he's like we need to get back on that and people like Joe Rogan and

Jordan P.O. whoever he says like a bunch of other people He's like saying that they're causing this or encouraging it and it's bad for humanity and the way we think. And I just, I can't be on board with that man. I feel like hold on, why is it not okay to question, lose faith and be frustrated in governments, institutions, companies that have lied to us, cheated us and maybe stolen from us.

It's like it's their responsibility to win our trust. Like why should we just be on board with that? Right? Well, we shouldn't be. They just want us to be. And that's where all the propaganda is moving towards. Because this is what Sam Harris is saying. He's saying these people like Rogan shouldn't be speaking out. That's such bullshit. These things. No, I don't like Sam here. It's not confidence in these things. No, I don't like that. And I can trust that. I used to like him. I don't like that. Who is he getting paid by to say

that? Who's who's front in his probably more gets probably no one. I believe that he's a very honest person that no one's in his pocket. And he's hitting on Logan because why? He's what he's saying because why he's saying that Logan has people on that maybe have some discerning different ideas that aren't maybe may or may not be true. Well, I think what he's worried about is by encouraging these people on and

having this dialogue, it's encouraging a lot of people in the world in this country to not believe in these systems. And we need them to help us, right? So the best we've got, yeah, they make mistakes, but they're the best we've got and people need to have confidence in them. Otherwise, if we're not listening to anyone, we're not going to be able to help ourselves if there's like real pandemics and real bad things happening. The, you know, so it's kind of logical, but the problem is it's like forced conformity. And it's like, okay, we just blindly do it. I think

it's the institutions responsibility to gain the people's trust. And if you have lost it, which you have, then fucking show us like some good things about you. I hear you. Right. Show us being like, you know, that you can be honest and you can admit to making mistakes and take things back and change things and be useful. I mean, whatever. I'm not happy with what he said. It doesn't, doesn't feel like a confidence and it's a real bummer because I, I just always felt like he was one of the wisest people I'd ever heard speak honestly. And now, now I'm not sure. Well, I got to say, I, you know, this was right at the beginning, but Ramaswami, I did not realize that this 37 year old tech,

looks like an Indian tech dude, Vivek Ramaswami is the geo, he's seeking GOP presidential nomination. And he is saying, I don't, I don't believe the 9-11 commission report. Amen to that. I love when people speak out about stuff. I mean, I don't care what side of the fence you're on. That's why I appreciate libertarians, right? They're kind of sway both ways a little bit. I hope there's a point in time where people can get a hold of some real information from that time. And I'd be really curious to know all the truth.

And all he said is all he said, and they pointed this out several times. I don't believe the government has told us the truth. He didn't say it was a conspiracy theory or we were part of it. He just says, I don't think they told us the truth. And they clearly did not. That is a fact. We know that now. Like you said, they're flying Saudis out. People in the bin Laden family are getting flown out the next day by Bush Jr. Explain that one. What the fuck? Explain that one. You don't think there's some weird shit going on there, guys? And we're not allowed to talk about this like 20 freaking two years later. However, you know, yeah, when did that happen 2001?

Yeah one of the weirdest things was when they first told him and he's at that school and he just sits there oh yeah oh like six minutes he knew he knew it's like what that it's almost like someone group of people told him this was going to happen they're like this is why this is going to happen and we're going to do do this. And it's, you know, for the greater good of the country or however they spawn it, like we're doing this. And it's going to set these balls in, you know, this whole thing in motion. And then we're going to invade all these countries and blah, blah, blah.

And he's just like, wait, what? And then it happens. And he's just sat there like in shock. Just going, holy shit. The president really doesn't run anything. And I'm going to have to lie about this for years. Well, we all knew we all knew Cheney was the president at that time. I mean, come on.

Come on. So yeah, I've got good stuff. Good stuff. Let's let's wrap it up. You know, listen to Dave and there's a lot of good information in there. He's obviously a smart guy. I enjoy it. It's, you know, listen to Dave and there's a lot of good information in there. He's obviously a smart guy. I enjoy it. It's, you know, heady and political, but it's not as depressing as it sounds. No, there's some core information in there.

And, you know, if you've been frustrated about COVID and all the rest of it, I mean, they really line some stuff out, you know what I mean? I just want Dave to take some tips from Tim Dylan. Be a little bit more funny when you're talking about serious shit. It makes it a little bit more lighthearted and more fun to talk about. Okay, come on. Take some tips from my boy.

He's gonna do it the way he does it, brother. All right, not every podcast has to be funny. All right, I get it. All right, well. All right guys, thank you so much for listening. We appreciate you as always. And yeah, shout out to our boys over at Audio Boom. They are great, we appreciate them and ladies,

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