Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 346 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Francis Njannou Et al.

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

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Enjoy the show. Hey guys, and welcome to this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. I say, experience, experience review. I don't even know the name of the show. X, X, X. You're just thinking of Twitter, dude. Is anyone going to call it X? No one's going to call it X, are they? That's no one is. It's like Prince's name, formally known as Twitter.

All right, who do we have this week, bro? Well, first off, I want to give a shout out to Gavin Newsom in California. Okay. Why? He, there was an article written about him, uh, because there was an interview recently where he said that he was quite disturbed, that he found out one of his sons was listening to the Joe Rogan experience. Oh.

And I would just like to say, Hey, Gavin Newsom, why is that? Because maybe your son's going to find out your corrupt fucking politician. Have a that. He's a good talker. He's a good talker. Yeah. And you know, there's a lot of people who have opinions about a lot of things, podcasts, especially and Joe Rogan, especially, and they don't know anything about the guy and they just have assumptions and that's just just sad. Open your minds, people. Well, to be fair, Joe's talked quite a lot of shit about Gavin Newsom. But,

you know, if you had lived in California during COVID, like you would hate that guy too. Yeah. Like I would imagine because he is a complete doofus. Doofus. All right. I don't know much about him. I hopefully is also listening to this and I just want to say well done. Well done young news Expand your million baby love that all right. So we got Alex Barron son. Let's go He sued Twitter not X Go back on only person ever to do that. Love that. Go and it worked, right? He got back on. Yeah. Go back on Francis and Garno.

Former UFC heavyweight champion of the world. Yeah. One of the hardest hitters, punches of all time. It's got a big fight coming up with Tyson Fury. Can't believe that they put this together. Honestly, and wow, it's going to be interesting. And then I thought we'd finish up with the Kurt Angle. Okay, but legendary wrestler. Awesome stuff, buddy. Awesome stuff. Let's get into baronson. I have a lot of notes about Mr. Baronson. And he is a controversial, controversial figure, but I bought his book. Okay. The one about marijuana.

No, no, no, no, pandemic pandemic, pandemic, pandemic pandemic pandemic. And I got through maybe like 50 pages of it, dude, it's good. It's super interesting. It's so well written. He's a very good like investigative journalist. You can just tell by reading this, like, you know, some people you hear talk and he's like, I don't know, like, maybe this guy's a dummy or whatever. I like the more Alex talks and comes on the more of a fan I am. And yeah, I like to get to like suing Twitter hard work.

Now he's like suing Pfizer and the White House. This guy thinks he's taking Biden, dude. I thought it was against Biden. Barence and versus Biden. Yeah, I think you're right. So anyway, give it, give me, give me something. What are you, what are you thinking of this? Well, I was looking them up again because, uh, I guess what I was going to start with is it's unfortunate that as soon as people make

an assumption about someone, it's just like out the door, like they just can't seem to open their minds and try to listen to them again. You would think that people would start listening to this guy after half of what he said became true. You know, I mean, it's just crazy. And yeah, how does that not give him massive credibility now? And after listening to the guy, he's been on Rogan, what three times now? We've heard him recently, right? When he was suing Twitter. And I would say that he seems to be someone who's just looking for the truth.

And I don't know whether or not he, everything he's saying is true, obviously, but you gotta look into these things. I mean, he's an investigative journalist. He wrote for the New York Times for a decade, right? At least, the guy's not an idiot. He seems to just want to know the truth. And, you know, I feel like giving people,

giving kids the vaccination, this mRNA vaccination makes absolutely no sense. I don't think it is a good idea for kids to take this. And that's all he really started saying from the get go. Yeah. He's more worried about kids than adults, right? It's like anyone past 65, yes,

should get the mRNA vaccine, vaccine, especially if they're overweight. All these things make sense. He doesn't seem like this guy has a agenda. The thing they put everyone in the category, if you said that anyone shouldn't get it at any age, you're an anti-vaxxer, not you'd never had the choice to, you know, the option because the narrative was so heavy-handed. Right. Everyone should get it. It was never like the people most affected should get it first, which is always how things should go. Right. The people most at risk should get the help first. Absolutely. We men and children to the boats first. There's a reason why this stuff goes like this. And then you work your way down,

right? But also what's the cost benefit? Like if you're in a range where you're not going to get sick at all, the statistics are so low, then probably don't get it. And that's okay. And that should have been encouraged. But it just wasn't even close, dude. I just heard today on the news, they were like talking about, oh yeah, all pregnant women now should get the new booster. Like the CDC recommends this. Mm-hmm.

No, I mean, come on. If the new Pfizer CEO doubles his pay after the coronavirus, is that not a teeny red flag? Dude, the worst parts were there's like audio and interview recording of the guy that runs Pfizer saying, Hey, we're not doing this for profit. We're going to charge like a menial amount. We're going to do it through the government. This is about helping people. This is about an emergency. We're here to help. Yeah. $100 billion later. That's what Pfizer say. That're here to help. Yeah. A hundred billion dollars later.

That's what Pfizer is saying. That's what Pfizer is saying. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, hey, if they had made a hundred million, I would say, hey, that's still a shitload of money, but probably like about as much as it costs to like make the drug in the first place. Yeah.

So they made their money back and they could pay their employees. Like good for them. Yeah. And hopefully they did good research. The fact that it was a thousand times more than that. Dude. Yeah, there's something there. Like what are we talking here?

There's something there. And also the fact that Barronson says he doesn't believe a lot about what, you know, a lot of what RFK says. I appreciated that because that to me, you know, he's not just a full on anti-vaxxer. He just is scared of the mRNA vaccination, which is a newer model of vaccines that got rushed into production. We should all be scared because we don't know what it's going to do.

This is a good example of like team anti-team mentality, right? It's like you get, take one side or the other, the left or the right, what they're trying to do is gang up on the other side. So it's like anyone that agrees with me even a little bit like I'm full on with them and they're on our team and we agree with everything. What he's showing is, hey, you know, RFK has some good points but I don't agree with them and they're on our team and we agree with everything. What he's showing is, hey, you know, RFK has some good points, but I don't agree with them on everything. And I don't

need to because I'm an independent thinker. And there are some elements of what he says that don't mesh with me. And that's okay, right? Yeah. I mean, you take some sides or you take the media, like regular standard media, for example. They're gonna say, agree with everything that we're saying and you've got to be on board 100% and that's just the end of it. It's like there's no free thinking within this narrative. So yeah, it's nice to see.

Like you can be open to it. Just because you like one element of one person doesn't mean you agree with everything about them. Right. Yeah, it's like, why do we have to pick sides? Why can't we have an honest debate about stuff? And I've ran into this with one of my best homies, my best friend, who I've known since seventh grade, okay, we're going on like 30 years of friendship, known since seventh grade, okay. We're going on like 30 years of friendship and he works in a hospital and he is so pro-vax,

which I get, but he also was in a hospital every day where people were dying left and right and they couldn't fill up. They didn't have enough room for dying people. Now, I didn't have that experience. So he is so pro-vax that he's like, dude, the vaccine saved us all, man. You weren't in the hospital every day where people were dying

every day all day long. And I said, you're right, I wasn't there. I don't know what to say. But do you agree with giving vaccinations to children? I asked him that specific question, he said, absolutely. So again, those, you know, I'm no doctor, obviously, but I'm not giving my kid the mRNA vaccination. Not gonna do it.

I don't think the fight ever was that I need, like I would want other people to think in another way. My girlfriend is like full on with vaccines and supports it and thinks in sure it help people and all these things, you know, yeah, like, okay, good. Think the way that you think the problem is it's just the fact that that whole group of people enforced that thinking on everyone else and then demonize them. Right. It wasn't

happening the other way round. I mean, it wouldn't matter to me what side of any argument I would be on. Like if I'm just watching two groups fighting, I don't even care what the subject is. If one group is forcing it on the others and like making them stay home or not have a job or blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm more inclined to go on the other side.

Yeah. It's often that's a freedom issue. The fact that so many things lined up, they showed that it, you know, wasn't necessary for younger people, you know, masks weren't slowing things down. I, you know, social distancing didn't really help statistically, you know, closing restaurants that were, that had the option to be, oh, eat outdoors, oh, eat our doors when out of business. I know, but you know.

It's such a sad thing. And we definitely did a lot of things wrong and we can't turn back, but it is frustrating to see that we're still full on. I mean, I was in safe way the other day and I heard over the loudspeaker, make sure to get your vaccination for COVID. And it's like, really?

We're still pushing vaccines right now. Seems to be pushed all frickin' day long. And okay, for the people that are unhealthy and 65 and over, okay, and maybe overweight. But why can't we, and Joe always talks about this, why can't we talk about healthy diet, vitamin D, vitamins, nutrients, vitamins, nutrients, supplements, go for a walk every day.

Hello. Yeah. Hello. All right. So what else are we going to? If you're old, get it. All right. So if you're old, if you're overweight,

and you know, it might help, might help. But everyone else, like that's your choice. Do what you want. Alex is not down for the UAP reports. What did you think about that? He's not feeling it. He thinks his bullshit. Oh, maybe it is. I think the aliens have come here. Maybe it is. I mean, again, he seems to, you know, he has a lot of opinions, obviously, and he follows through with his thoughts and opinions because he's a journalist

Hey, man, I mean, I think there's other life out there, but I see his point when he when he says like Why why would they care about us right? Why would they care about us or why how could they crash or how could they crash in a desert that one's that one is a little bit interesting You think if you're so advanced, how do you just crash in a desert? You know, it's it's what's more compelling to me is what he said about how do you crash and they don't come and get you? It's like yeah, no one's helping you dude. We don't leave people anywhere. No, we're kind of like, let's say for you got to bring that body home, dude. Yeah, there's non-emotional, like species that isn't like all about war and greed and all these different things.

You would assume they still would have like compassion, love. Yeah. And like, dude, we don't like to leave people anywhere. So they could just calm down, fucking beam that alien body right back off. But beam it up. I don't know. Beam it up, dude. And less. And less, maybe they're just like organic drones. And then, you know, the real aliens don't really give a shit about it. It's just like, it's just a, you know, biological You know, clone drone. It's like, ah, leave it there. It's not important. We're making some new ones. Yeah, I mean, yeah

Not everyone has to believe in this stuff. I guess and it sounds like Joe a little bit is getting less and less inclined He's he's kind of thinking it's just the government having some crazy dope ass technologies, which scares me more than aliens, honestly, because I'm like, how long until another country gets this? Right. Right. You know, if these things can go that fast, not interact with mattera. Could it just like zoom around a city and just like smash in everybody and kill them all instantly? Like how powerful could these things be? It's crazy.

It is crazy. I mean, I personally think we have the technology to have free power and they're hiding that from us. You know, and they've been hiding that since Tesla. So they're clearly hiding other things, you know. I love, dude, did you see that? Oh, I can't think of the the comics name. I think I sent this to you via the Insta, but it was about how he's like, really?

Y'all don't believe in any conspiracy theories. Really? He's like, the government is in control of every single person in this country. He's like, I have one son and I lie to that motherfucker all the time. He has one person. That's great. One person. So good.

It's so good. So good. I like the lot. I had a few more notes about liberal kids being really depressed all the time. That clicked with me. It made a lot of sense. You know, it's like, you got this huge pandemic of unhappiness. 70% of Democrats think the government should ban false speech on the internet. So that kind of leans into it. It's like they're so so like that goes against freedom speech. Yeah, that's a really bad Presses first amendment people first amendment dude think about it this way. It's only

Full speech to you. Imagine if like the Republicans were in fully and Control the media what you're gonna want them to shut your speech up Like no one can control this. It's not how it works, so they're constantly worried. And they're worrying their own kids. It's creating like just this generational, kind of transmission of neurotic thinking. I mean, those poor fuckers, man.

Well, and like Baronson said, we already have a government that's been trying to hide truth for since forever, pretty much, since the 40s that we know of, you know, there's these secret rooms happening in the Rockefeller Center while, you know, wars are going on. So this has been going on for almost a hundred years now. They don't want us to know the truth. How are you going to get the truth out if you can't, if you don't have freedom of speech? The first amendment, guys, you would think Democrats would be the harbingers of, of wanting this. And it seems to be going the other route like Republicans are for freedom of speech. It's a very strange time that we live in.

Yeah. But we got it. We got to get the truth out. And you know, it is, it is a tough, I have a hard time thinking what's right for Twitter, a K A X, because I don't want to see hate speech. I get that. But I also believe that if some haters want to come and talk at a school, they should be allowed. And you know what? They should be allowed to get heckled and punched in the face too, because that's fucking fun to watch. That'd be good. You know, everyone should be allowed to speak the pie something. It's mac and with a pie. Something. Damn, Nazi's definitely hit him with something.

Well, you know, Alex, it was interesting. He talked about working at the New York Times. And he was like, honestly, like before Trump went into office, there was far more journalistic integrity than there is now. And it was like somewhat based on so much hate for him that things just kind of like went off the rails. You know, he was like often told what he should write about. Like, hey, this is a good story. Follow this up. There's an agenda wasn't, yeah, it wasn't so much like editing of the work.

And, you know, now he's saying why he had to leave. It's just like, yeah, they just, they have to control everything. Well, now he's just doing everything on sub-stack, right right? Most it makes you think like who is so afraid and why? Like, you know, well, I haven't looked at a New York Times in years, but I know all their website, you know, who's funding their website daily pose poser daily poser.com folks. We'll put a link. All right.

You got anything else for Berencine man. That was a great talk. I would, I would definitely highly recommend this one. It was controversial. You know, it, it, it's just, it's just an open-minded conversation. And, but he's not really controversial. He just is because they've made him that way. He's, he's like his own kind of

Three fighter and I hope other Journalists step up and do that and I love that they all kind of are starting to take care of each other as well I mean you've obviously heard about what Russell Brand is going through Mm-hmm. So we know Russell's great videos Online and doing like quasi journalism. Been killing it. More presenting, but he's doing great.

And the way he presents it is amazing. He's so articulate. He thinks so quickly, he's very clever. I love his perspective on how he puts things together. And then it seems like, unless there is something that really happened, there's just this orchestrated event and let's not get too conspiratorial, but there's a few players in place, especially in England, that have put effort into demonetizing him on YouTube, which has happened immediately,

even though he's not been found guilty at all. These are just accusations. And he's paying the price for it. And let's- They're trying to bring him down. Look, dude, nobody was saying anything about who he was when he was just doing silly movies. They were all quite funny. Right.

I mean, it really highlights something like bad. And I love that so many reporters have come out to kind of have his back because, you know, reporters are basically like detectives anyway. So if there was something to the claims that are being laid out, like, I don't think these reporters would be cool with Russell Brand being this kind of predator,

like they've set it up. Yeah. Like they've set him up to be and they're seeing what it is. And people have also referenced like, that is one of the best plays to put on someone. If you call someone like a sexual predator, you can't wash that stain off. So it's, it's like, I hope good play for these people to shut guys like him up. I really hope all of this, all these accusations come out as unbeen untrue, but we'll see, yeah, we'll see what happens, man.

But people don't like the truth. You know, powerful people do not like the truth because it messes with their bottom line. All right, but want to get in. You want to get into the man, the, the big man, the fighter. Yeah, France is in. God, Mr. France is let's go. Let's go.

If you ever seen France as fight, you don't even know who he is. I didn't know who he was until I listened to him today, but I did see the photo of him and Tyson Fury together and holy shit. I can't believe how much bigger Tyson Fury is than that guy. And he's already huge. I know almost. Oh, yeah. Tyson is. I think he's like six, eight. Gosh, Andy's got a belly on him too. Yeah. Yeah, he has the ultimate dad bod and don't let it for you. Tyson Fury is probably, he probably is the greatest heavyweight fighter in history. And is that his real name to, I mean, come on.

Yeah, he was named after Mike Tyson, believe it or not. Yeah, that's cool. So the irony here is Mike Tyson is actually going to be in Francis's corner, right? Which is a bit of a bummer to miss the fury I would imagine. Yeah. But you know, how well revenge is best served cold and he might just knock Francis out and then be like, well done Tyson, maybe your next. It was, it was an eye opener for me to think that this, that, that homie that Francis wasn't even part of the MMA until he was 28 years old, hadn't even heard of

it until 2013. Yeah. Dude, it's nuts. He really hasn't trained for long. You know, I mean, look, if they have a put a John Jones fight together, John Jones was the champion before Francis even started training. You know, which kind of highlights something, but it also shows how amazing it is the Francis was able to take that belt. And it wasn't just that he's the hardest punch. I mean, don't get me wrong. That's a great skill set to have. Yeah. But when he fought Syrogon, who is like a very agile heavyweight fight, that moves very quickly, very well, Francis had like his knee was all fucked up. So he had to wrestle him. He had to change up his game and he's not a wrestler either, like traditionally.

And he managed to outrest them score points and win the belt. I mean, that's a real champion. So, I mean, you know, when Francis was on Rogan the first time, he talked a lot about escaping Cameroon and working in the salt mines and just, or whatever it was, was a salt sand, something awful, conditions terrible.

And he just, he just has no quit. He has a very strong mind, ton of determination. He's a special dude. I like how calm he sounds too. You would never, if you close your eyes and listen to this, you wouldn't think that he's like this giant juggernaut of a man.

Good word. Yeah, he seems very humble for sure. I like, I liked his, the points he was making when he was talking about, you know, not becoming full of yourself, right? Not don't ever think that you're better than somebody else ever, ever, ever, because it's going to screw up your game so fast. Always, always know that there could be somebody better than you. Don't ever think that you're the best because it's going to bring you down real fast. I really, that one hit home for me.

Well, it's a lot of pressure at the top. I think I think guys that win the belts, you know, and get there. I think that they start to realize that real fast. Yeah. Like you got to be real careful about thinking you're the best because you'll get, you'll get so fast. And when people are hungry or coming up, then you might be on top. Yeah. I mean, it's also lonely at the top, buddy. Might be. Yeah. Might be. Well, well, I'm glad I'm glad he stopped drinking sodas. I think that's going to help him. Okay, good job, buddy. Ziggula, some of the stuff you was saying about nutrition, I was like, oh my God. And

you know, I feel like somebody just tell you this, you're a fucking world class athlete. Well, it reminded me of when I would, when I traveled to South America, how there's just Coke everywhere. Everybody drinks Coca-Cola and. Bro, I was going to say, whoa, what kind of, you know what other kind of, Coke, yeah. No, the drink. Okay. Everybody's drinking it down there. You know, it's like water, like fruity flavors, though.

Water's unsafe. You know, they're drinking phanta or Coke. I mean, I had a buddy down there who was running this, this hostile. They're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like,

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the biggest heavyweight champion in the world. You would think his trainer would have maybe given him a hint on that. Yeah, not good. Yeah, you would think so. You would think that somebody had been like, not dude. But at the end of the day, I mean, it's a pressure. It's not impossible to believe that you couldn't work out so hard that at times a few super sugary drinks might actually not be all that bad

for you. Yeah, but wasn't he saying he was drinking like six or 10 coaks a day or something? Yeah, that's obviously not good. Buddy. That's probably not going to work out. All right. Well, who do you think is going to win this fight? You're the MMA, bro. Who's got the who's got the up on this one?

Dude, it's boxing Tyson's the best. Mm. Um, and Francis is, you know, I don't even think ever had a professional boxing match. He's not going to win. Mm. Okay. Yeah, there is zero chance. Now, there's always a chance. They call it a punches chance, there's always a chance, but you wait till the odds come out, dude. That will tell you everything you need to know because the odd makers are better with boxing, usually than with MMA. And that's gonna say it all.

Like you're probably gonna have to put a million dollars on Tyson Fury to win 10 grand. I probably know it won't be that ridiculous, but it's going to be fucking clear. There is almost zero chance that Francis went, those saying that you never know. And if it did happen, it would propel Francis to the stratosphere of fame because, oh my God, what a story. Like that. It would make the rematch worth hundreds of millions for both of them.

And I don't even know if the UFC could afford to get him back for any reason. It's probably not. That's cool. So when is this fight? It's in June. It's probably not that's cool. So when is this fight? It's in June. He said, or that's when he signed up for it. When is the actual fight? Let me look at it. This step, this reminds me of the the Kurt Angle interview,

which we'll get to next. But Joe has talked about this plenty of times about the weight classes, you know? Yeah. And how it's, it's just insane how you're fighting on the same day, not in MMA, but in like, in wrestling, right, where you're fighting on the same day that you weigh in. Holy shit. That is so dangerous, so dangerous. But in boxing, it doesn't matter, right? The weight classes are so much closer together, right? Yeah, they're closer together. People still cut weight, but for these guys, a heavyweight, they don't need to worry about that.

They're both huge. Like, yeah, they can just be massive. They both like to so big. They probably have to make sure they weigh in the maximum, which is probably like 269. You might even be heavier. I don't know what Tyson weighs. He's a big fucking dude.

Anyway, the fight is October 28th. So one month from today. Nice. Right before Halloween, baby. Cool. Fury. Nice. I'm going to have to watch this one. I'm looking up his weight. Oh, he's 269.

So yeah, he weighs in right at the limit. And he's six foot nine, dude. And how about how about tight or excuse me, Francis? What's his weight? He's got to be what within 20 pounds of that, right? Hang on. Me a second. Sorry. Two fifty eight. Yeah.

He's almost in that weight, which is nuts because he has a fucking six back. It's like damn son. Maybe you should throw some Coca-Cola's in. Oh, love that. All right. Well, good luck to both of them. I can't wait to watch that fight. Let's go. It's going to be it's going to be pretty dope. I wanted to just see what else. Oh, I wanted to touch a little bit on, you know, just some of his negotiations with the UFC. I mean, it's a bummer. It's a bummer that the UFC didn't keep him. I love what he's doing though, heading over that.

It's gonna make for a great fight that people want to watch. I like when people are going between promotions, you know, they're like MMA guys are going over to boxing and vice versa. And now the UFC has been bought up by the same company that owns WWE. So there might be cool crossover stuff there. No more Vince McMahon. Stuff like that, I think is good for all the sports, but so he so Francis now signed with a PLF That's another fight in organization. They have a lot of money. They're paying him really well put it in his contract that anybody he fights He get also gets you know gets two million dollars and he can get more which is amazing so he's making sure that all fighters are making good money, which is cool. And, you know, he just, he had some beefs with like how they would keep

extending the contracts in the UFC and vice versa. And here's the thing. It's like, I love the UFC. I love what they've done for MMA. Like it wouldn't be anywhere of what it is today. The MMA in general, without what the UFC has done. It really came ahead of all the other type of fighting organizations like Pride and it's the best. It's the peak. However, they've been very much in control of a lot of the negotiations and these sorts of things. And it never hurts for occasionally to have these fighters come out and really advocate for other fighters. And, you know, I believe what he's saying is true. I don't think he was being greedy.

I think he was just trying to make things fair and there seems like a lot of pressure on UFC fighters to fight even when they're injured as well, which I don't, I really don't care for that. You know, I hate it when fighters have to drop out because of injury that happens a lot and we get excited for fights, but I really don't want people to be like, maimed, you know, or have like lifelong horrible medical issues because of these fights. Like it's, you want both. You want entertainment and then you want people to not ultimately be completely fucked up. Isn't that getting better though? I mean, if we're going to segue into Kurt Angle here, I mean, when he was

wrestling, how many broken necks is he had and they're just, they just want him to stay on the mat. Too many. It's crazy. Yeah. Too many broken nacks, man. Buddy, not good. Yeah. I mean, I can, I can imagine with that much pain and that many neck breaks, you're going to get addicted to painkillers for sure. 100%. Well,

we want a gold medal at the Olympics with a broken neck. Yeah. How does that make any sense at all? Yeah. I mean, he said he broke his neck four times. So he absolutely broke his neck four times. And I won't even go to the gym if my calves are really sore. Oh poor baby. Yeah. I'll be like, if I do like a massive calf workout, I go for a run. I'll be like if I do like a massive calf workout I go for a run. I'll be like man Just take they off your vision. He's like I have a genius. How sandy right now? Like take care of myself, right? Oh, okay. I don't want I don't want 12 broken necks. Thank you. Nice All right, I'm not trying to win a gold medal But it just shows this different levels the human beings and he's an exceptional one and an absolute legend of a

WWE Fight I remember when he went into the WWE it was pretty exciting because he was like known as like the legit badass like he literally could fuck everyone up Or at least wrestle them Yeah, I liked I appreciated his stone cold Steve Austin literally could fuck everyone up or at least wrestle them. Yeah, I liked I appreciated his stone cold Steve Austin. His comments about stone cold, like that's really he was so inspired by that dude. Yeah, and Stone Cold was so badass. You know, always smashing beers on his head.

You forget about or at least I had forgotten about how what a, what a fun theatrical side that most wrestlers have. Like you have to be not only an artist in the ring, but really you have to know how to act, right? It's all it. It's all an act. You got to be a character. Yeah, I do. Sure. You got to be a character. Yeah, do sure you gotta be a character. Yeah, like Rick Flair. Oh, I mean, I feel like in a lot of ways I feel like the guys in the 80s were better because they were all ridiculous. Not so man, dude. Come on. Not so man. Some of those guys made Macho man like almost every time he spoke, I thought he was going to have a stroke. He would just scream like and just everything was so tense. Oh, yeah.

Those guys were, they must have been doing an eight ball of blow before they got on those those television screens back in the East. You'd imagine. Or maybe it was just the steroids. I don't know. It was all of the above. They were redlining everything. And then they, you know, not that they calm down in the 90s, but, you know, they were just like

more regular in the rocks just out there. Like, what are we cooking? You know, not as much screaming intensity. I'm a little upset that that Tony didn't end up taking the job of being a writer. Come on. But he followed his dream and you got to give him respect for that. That must have been such a difficult choice to make because as a completely broke comedian, you know, even one is talented as Tony, but let's be honest, only he knew what the potential of his talent could be. Right.

If he wasn't even headlining then and people were going to offer him six figures, to go do a job that he has been a fan of, a massive fan of his whole life. I'm amazed he turned that down. I am too. It's crazy. Tony Hangecliffe is the man. Well can we just say the new owners of WWE, right? Cause Vince sold it, right? How long ago did Vince sell it? It wasn't that long ago. Okay, they sold it to Endeavour. Can we please hire Hinch Cliff just as like a,

and not an internal free lancer? Come on, let's not make a move. Maybe that now that Vince is out of it, out of this deal, they can do some side work. They do some side work. They do some side work. He doesn't have to move to Connecticut. Can we just bring Tony in as a, as a writer, please, for the next five years, two years, one year, whatever it is?

They already talked about getting Vince McMahon on the podcast. Yeah. If that happens, right? Which hopefully now that he has more time, if he goes on Rogan's podcast, that would be amazing. Tony could be in there. And that is definitely an idea that needs to be pitched. Yeah. Absolutely. That would be fantastic. I would love to see what he comes up with. Just let Tony create like one wrestler for us. Just give him one guy. Yeah, give him give him a persona. He writes the whole Maritus for the one guy. Yes. God fucking hilarious. So good. I love it. So good. And I'd love to hear here Vince McMahon. I mean, what a what a psycho really not in a bad way, but the guy sleeps two hours a day. And then what I did some research and on Reddit, it said that yes, he only sleeps two hours a day. And then what I did some research and on Reddit,

it said that yes, he only sleeps two hours a day, such a workaholic. He clearly has a vision for everything. You know, Tony mentioned that too, with some of the writers, Vince would say, nope, it's not good, change it. Like 20 minutes or an hour before they got on camera, Vince would say, nope, start over.

I need something completely different. So these, these writers are getting work to the bone to create these characters. And then the actors have to play it out so quickly, but what I was getting at is it sounded like there was one day out of the week. And again, I got this from Reddit, so I don't know if it's true or not,

but it was saying that one day out of the week, Vince would sleep all day long, close the shades, black, you know, I get everything dark. He's like, he's a vampire, dude. But one day a week, sleeped all day, and then the rest of the week, just two hours a night, he was fine. God, that sounds like a meth addict. Imagine how much more shit you would get done, though, wow. Right. I mean, and look, dude, his mind still works. He's what two years younger than Biden. Yeah.

And he's stronger than I will ever be. Oh, yeah. He's even a my peak. He's like not young, dude. He's an old man and squatting. What did they say? Like a thousand pounds or something insane? Was that even possible?

How much can Vince McMahon squad? I don't know. The Google has this. I don't know, buddy. I will like to say, I'd like to bring up the fact, they went over this a while, you know, for the 100,000 deaths a year from opioids. You know, we've heard it plenty

of times, but the whole hospital's being for profit businesses. How do we get into this predicament? I mean, this is just so, yeah, it's just a mess. Full profit, prisons, full profit. Thank you. It's going to be a problem, folks. Maybe we shouldn't do it that way. How about Patrice taking the job

and getting fired by McMahon six times? Yeah, so Patrice O'Neill, Tony was saying, took the job that Tony was going for and because of conflicts with standup, Vince just kept firing him and rehiring him It sounds like Vince McMahon is a dude you do not want to fuck around with you either play his game or you get the fuck out of that But it also sounds like everybody has mad respect for him too because of that work ethic, right? Yeah, I think so I mean look what he's done. I think they just sold the WWE for like 21 billion.

Come on. Yeah. Put that in perspective, the UFC's sold for like 4.2. And that was massive profit. I mean, 21, so you're telling me WWE's worth half of what Twitter was? Like holy shit, what an organization. If you ever been to a live WWE. No, sir. Dude, it's amazing. Oh, so much energy. So fun. We went to one in Ohio, two of my buddies from England came over. And I was like trying to think of like stuff we could do. And I saw these tickets. So I was like, fuck yeah, I'm getting these. Just kind of surprised them with it. They, you know, it's not like stuff we could do and I saw these tickets so I was like, fuck yeah, I'm getting these. Just kind of surprised them with it. They, you know, it's not like, like we are fans all when we were younger, but we didn't watch it forever.

We're like in our 20s now or all then. And we went. It was incredible. And what was great, this is after a hole could like retired, but it all like, yeah, he wasn't really wrestling anymore, but he just showed up. Yeah. And just going to ring did his whole wave the hand and like put it to a zier thing on each corner of the ring. Dude, the place I have been to games, concerts, you name it.

I have never seen energy in a crowd like that ever. That's awesome. And it was just fucking like Monday night. It was like Monday night roll, whatever. It was just regular. So good. The closest I've gotten to that, I was eight years old. First concert I ever went to with my dad was the jump tour with, oh, my God, I can't believe I can't think of his name right now. Van not Van Halen, but uh, Oh gosh, why am I spacing his name right now?

The freaking guitar player for Van Halen. What the hell is his name, dude? Oh Eddie. Eddie. Yes. Oh gosh. I feel so dumb right now. Eddie Van, well, it's Eddie Van Halen, right? I'm a fit Van Halen. I feel like we're gonna have to delete this out because I feel so silly right now, but I mean, I remember the energy in that crowd when he came over on a surfboard. He flew into the crowd. This is at Kobo Arena in downtown Detroit in the 80s. Love that.

Yeah, Kobo Hall. Okay, anyway, but I can imagine, I mean, I do, I grew up watching WrestleMania at W.F. Hello, who didn't in the 80s? Who didn't? You go to your rich friend's house who has fucking pay per view and you go watch it. It is a event. Yeah. And then you just basically like jump on the couch and hit

air all your friends with pillows and try somebody to slam somebody. Exactly, dude. And it's absolute chaos. And it's just the best. But, you know, again, going back to him in oxycodon, he was saying he got 120 pills a month. Like, thank God he's so physically strong because I don't know how your body would have even get like been able to deal with that. That's so many. Well, it's crazy. Doctors. No, he had even more than that. He'd get all that stuff. He had even more than that.

He was saying he was getting 2400 pills a month, dude. Wait, what? Yeah. And I'm sorry. I didn't be heard that completely wrong. And, and hello, I need to retract on Eddie Van Halen. I knew I was screwing this up. It was David Lee Roth, dude. The other half of Van Halen, David Lee Roth saying jump. And I apologize, guys, it was, I was eight years old when I went to this concert.

I had a bit of a brain fart. That was clearly David Lee Roth that I went to go see, but anyway. Right. Well, that's kind of embarrassing for you. It is. It is. I'm embarrassed. We're going to keep it in. We're not going to edit it out.

Jump came out in 19 days online forever. Jump came out in 1983, year after I was born, buddy. Let's go. That's a good song. So it's still, it still has its place. If you're like really drunk, and you know, the night winding out and they put that on, you're into it. You're into it.

I mean, he made it an entire career off of that song. Let's be honest. He made it. Was he really only famous for that one song? And then they kicked him out of the band. Well, no, this is after he was out of the honest, dude. He made it into the only famous for that one song and then they kicked him out of the band. Well, no, this is after he was out of the band, dude. Well, no, sorry, it was a, it was a single, um, you know, but, but this is jump was at number 177 when it debuted, but it's listed as, oh, sorry, it was listed as 177 out of 500 greatest songs of all time. Not bad. Yeah. So it was on the Van Halen. Yeah.

Wasn't a single afterwards. Right, right, right. He did that and then he was like, on the burn, on the burst and then he went nah, and then they kicked us out. Yeah. Well, ego is not your me go. That's it. All right. Well, I think that kind of wraps it up for this week. I appreciate it Todd. As always, good breakdown of some interesting pods this week. Absolutely, buddy. Very exciting. Check them out folks. Thanks as always for listening. We love you. And we're talking next time. All right, Joel. Peace out.