Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 353 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Graham Handcock Et al.

Episode Date: November 5, 2023

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One, go. Enjoy the show. Yo, guys, and welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience review. I'm Adam, joined as always by Todd. What is happening, Todd? TOD, double D. Great, great weekend, buddy. Just, you know, waiting for the snow, waiting for the snow.

Yeah. Ready to snowboard, huh? Ready to shred. So it's a go. So it was my three year old. He's ready to roll, buddy. Great week. Nice.

Yeah. It's been a good week. Nice. It's been a good week. Very productive. You know, that always feels good. It keeps, you know, it does always feel good. Doesn't that?

That's what you need. That's all you need, man. You know, it's only when you feel like you're spinning your ties. That you just like, son of a bitch. No, I just feel like I've been challenging myself all week, which always feels good, right? Like getting worked on, getting workouts done. All the things that we know, you know, the cold pool.

The, the son of all that good stuff, man. Doesn't take us really. He just got to do it. He's just got to do like the four or five things, at least for me, the four or five things that I know are going to make me feel good. Do those and I'm good to go, man. Fucking productive. Sure.

Just get that little bit of a routine down and be consistent with it. It feels, it feels a lot better doing it that way. I mean, it sounds a lot like, um, yeah, I mean, well, are we talking Shane Dorian first? Are we going Graham? Hancock first. Let, well, let's do Graham. And then let's finish up with the twins. The twins. The twins. They were excited. They make your ADHD look like nothing. I know it felt great. It felt great. It's like, I'm good, dude. I'm cool. I'm chill. Yeah. You're like, oh, there's levels to this. All right. Let's start with Graham. Kind of a bomber. He was supposed to debate with another archaeologist, but Flynn, Diveble, but sadly, he's, you know, battling cancer and can't make

it in. Hopefully, they get to, he makes a recovery and they get to come in and talk some more. But I think it's time for Graham to have that opportunity. Now that his documentary is so big and, you know, he's so much more respected in a lot of areas, even though I know a lot of these archaeologists still shit on him, but it's like each year people are taking these ideas of his more seriously. And it needs a debate, a good one, not an angry one, not a like, you're a quack one, but where, you know, two people that have learnt a lot in their respective fields can discuss this stuff because it needs to be talked about, like, clearly. Yeah, like, I, I, I can't tell you how many times Hancock's been on Rogan, like,

but shit load of times. And each time it's that battle for him to be taken seriously. And, you know, it's like his research has just increased and become more thorough. And there's more things have been discovered. And it's like, can we, can we have a grown up debate about like how old our civilization potentially is? You know, can we rewrite some of this stuff? I just feel like we're wrong. I don't know what to believe. I mean, it, what I can believe is that there's no way hunter gatherers made the frickin pyramids. I mean, there's that. There's no way those were built 6,000 years ago, which is what they are claiming, right? When do you think they were built longer? Yeah. I am far more advanced civilization. Absolutely. How else do you explain how rocks

are basically, you know, what what did they took the the Sphinx had like one of the smaller ones, not the main one, right? Because it's all eroded already, but there's ones that are smaller where they can still see the shape on either side. And they did, like, I'm pretty sure Rogan had a guy on that showed us this, where they did a screenshot and then folded it over and it was basically exactly symmetrical. Like, it lined up perfectly. Like, there's no way, there's just no way that that was done by human hands, dude, it was machinery. Clearly it was machinery. I don't think it was aliens. I'm not, I'm not saying it was aliens that made the pyramids. I'm just saying that it was an advanced civilization. I'm on Gramsade on this one after watching,

you know, ancient apocalypse and ancient apocalypse, and you know, you hear about the younger dryness, and it just, to me, there's just so many, there's so many clues to an ancient civilization after you watch his documentary. I mean, I don't know. And also, I don't know what the pushback is. Why does everything need to be so linear?

It's not even linear now. If you go to New York City, it's an advanced city, right? Or you go to Dubai. It's like very advanced, big skyscrapers, like lots of modern equipment. And then you can go to the Amazon. And there are very primitive people that have no idea about New York and Dubai, right?

They exist together in the same time. Right. You're saying yes. So why not exactly? Why not thousands of years ago, there was just one or two less traveled civilization? You know, it's like, there would still be lots of pockets of very primitive people. And these like more advanced civilizations could just pop up throughout.

Makes sense, man. I mean, it just sounds more interesting. I think we should give ourselves credit for the potential that that could happen. And also, just the realism that, yes, we can get basically wiped out again back to the Stone Age. If some really bad shit goes down, I think that's the bit they won't accept. It's like, we've always just slowly improved and nothing has come that almost wiped us out. Is it an ego thing? Is that why we can't accept the fact that there was a smarter civilization before us that maybe used sacred geometry and could move, you know, insane amounts of weight with, you know, the vibrations of Earth. I mean, that's what they're saying, right? That's, that's what, I mean, that's some of the theories. Yeah, Randall Randall.

Randall, yeah. Is it cutting him? Carlson. Carlson cutting him. Closed. Running back, bro. Yeah, close. But I mean, it's just silly to me that we're not exploring this more and just calling Graham a cook. I mean, is it because people are are getting a defunded, you know, like with their with their digs and

the archaeologists are not getting funded if they say one thing, is that why? Like, why else would they just want to like put him off so badly? I think it's a few things. It's like old school thinking, it's that kind of in group, our group set up, you know, these archaeologists have PhDs. They went through regular academia, you know, they attend it professors.

Right. And they're saying this guy is just basically a report to the travels a lot, but Archaeologists doesn't have the credentials. I just don't get it. It's like they know archaeologists know that the world is, you know, older than 6,000 years. Okay, we know that much people.

They do. Okay, there's a lot of people out there who think the world's only 6,000 years old. It, you know, archaeologists are not on that side. So it doesn't make sense to me why they would be so against this other alternative theory. I mean, it, you know, especially if you look at the lidar now, I mean, I cannot wait until we get some of these answers from the lidar in the Amazon. Oh, yeah. There's just clearly there are structures that have been buried for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years.

Well, we don't know. Well, that's gonna be the big breakthrough. Probably is that the better that technology gets, you know, and they are starting to scan other areas. It's like, if they know something has been overgrown for a hundred thousand years, yet somehow there was a city underneath it. How the fuck are they going to answer that?

You're going to explain that that's hunter gatherers that built that too. But yeah, a hundred thousand years ago. You know, and also with the recent discovery of the guy that was on just a few weeks ago with the burial thing, right? And that documentary about how this not even homo sapient, so you can completely defy species. That's it. Nellady. Yeah. They were burying that dead, doing it, you know, quarter of a million years ago. It's like, hey, there's a lot more going on here. I think a big part of it is like when you turn to these academics,

they are in that position because they're supposed to know the most about the subject of anyone on the planet. And in order to like be seen as someone that knows the answer, they have to seem like they have all the answers. Which is not the way it is. It's like, hey, you could say this is the most we know so far. This is the most likely. And also we're up for figuring out new things.

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terms at casino.draftkings.com slash play as choice restrictions apply. And what do these guys say when there's this, when courts that has to be up to 2000 centigrade in heat, something that is not possible without some sort of explosion or meteorite exploding. There's no way that a fire would get that hot unless something exploded on Earth, which is why there's, according to Graham and others

who believe in the Younger Dryas theory, you see this line of basically ash that has quartz in it. And what did he say at Abu Harara? There's a underwater, which is now underwater, now, which is unfortunate, but the soil, they have, they're producing evidence of the soil, having this line. I mean, they showed it in like middle America somewhere, right? They showed it in like, it was in like, where was that? It's all over the place. Yeah, but they, in the movie, though, in the, in the Graham Hancock's new documentary, they actually went out there with Randall and you

could see this black line, you know, that's clearly 13,000 years old. They can, they can date it, right? I don't think the younger driest impact theory is as pushed back against as just a lot of the other things. Gramps says it's like that one is more accepted just because there's kind of empirical evidence. What they're saying did not happen around it is that there were advanced civilizations before that. Okay. before that, that then got wiped out because of this impact or series of impacts. And, you know, they go from there. But, you know, go back, we template them. They just think

that that's the thing. Move huge 20 tonstones with fucking. Yeah, it's not. But the problem is it's just that's one site, right? It's a big site. Yeah, but they, but actually did the carbon dating on that site, right? They know that that's just 13,000 years old. I go back to the temple. Right? No, they, they can't carbon date it because it's stone, but they were able to figure it out. Yeah, there's like basically how they've roughly got the age of it being super old, which is also not really debated like I think You know even modern archaeology is like yes, this is very very old We don't know why it's so different than other old things that we found I think it's something to do with like

Some of the stone surfaces have like the star maps on yeah Of like what the stars would have looked like then as a like a time stamp reference. And I think they were referencing that. They went back, which is quite compelling. Mathematically, they went back to when it would be. Well, exactly. Yeah. The stars lined up with the certain areas in the inside of the structure, right? Exactly. And think about it. Like, how genius is that, right? So cool. If you're trying to leave a message for the future, you could do it with mathematics, because mathematics is the same across the board, regardless of what language.

Also, you can do it with the position of the stars, especially when you're dealing with time. If you're dealing with time, that's the way to do it. But hunter gatherers did that, right? Okay. Yeah, okay. Come on, dude. Come on, dude.

It doesn't line up. I would just love to know why it was buried. Like imagine having that amazing thing and then just having the full thought to be like, listen, our civilizations about to be wiped out. And if we don't bury this, like there's no way to preserve it and people will never see it in the future. Like it's almost like they were trying to tell us

more of a message than we've been able to figure out so far. And this is where I think, you know how they were talking about the ancient languages and using AI to decipher these ancient languages. I think this is where it's gonna get exciting. I think what's gonna happen is they're gonna be able to like scan all of these ancient places. And AI is just gonna figure out

that there's some message in messaging that they were trying to pass to us. You know, more than likely, it's like an apocalyptic warning. I would imagine. It's like, hey, every 20,000 years civilizations get wiped out. No, it's a figure it out. I mean, we think we're so advanced now. What, how do you think we would cope if a giant meteor just hit, you know, a bunch of them hit all planet? You know, or a solar flare, like, took out all of the power grid. Right. It's like, you saw what we were like during COVID. It went nuts. everyone frantically. Yeah, we wouldn't. It would be disaster. I did appreciate the amount of talk about using plant medicine and how what was it called the Tara something?

It was the soil. Tara pretta. Oh, Tara pretta. Yeah, Tara pretta, I think. Which, the Amazonians are the native people in the Amazon realized that basically the soil was crap and they realized how to create new soil. I mean, what he's saying is that all of the trees

and all of the crazy fruit trees and flowers and everything else was basically planted by human beings which is pretty fricking nuts. That's crazy. And they figured out a way to make this wonderful soil that's super rich in... Neutrion rich, yeah. In micronutrients and organisms.

And they were saying that, you know, this is something that we still can't figure out to this day. We've tried it with what's it called biochar, which is like you take old carbon or wood that's been burnt and you mix it in with the soil. I know this because I used to grow hemp and that was a big thing in organic, if you wanted to stay organic without having to use nitrogen and a bunch of chemicals to... Yeah, you know. I've seen videos of people doing

something similar to that. Basically, it's like throwing in a bunch of microorganisms into your soil because what happens is there's a bunch of little spaces in the wood, in the burnt pieces of wood, the biochar, and organisms live in that, right? They love that. They breed on it. It's like a fricking breeding ground for micronutrients, And so it really helps break down the soil and create new healthier soil. Which again, like, again, in modern times,

we wanna do everything faster and better. And we're just really now, I think we're realizing that all of our soil is gonna be gone within what, like, 50 years or something they're saying. Cause all of our top sales are so depleted, and we just keep feeding it nicotine and chemicals, and it's like, okay, well, if we actually used organic processes

to do this, we would actually be creating more soil instead of just losing it every year. And it's like the Amazon, the Amazonian people knew this thousands of years ago. It's like, can we just maybe start to realize that maybe the ancestors were way smarter than us? And like, wait, maybe it's not a good idea to feed our soil poison.

And maybe we should use what we have to create something that doesn't just deat itself at the end of the year. It's like every year, and then what do we do? We just plow down the Amazon. And then it just turns to sand. Well, just be open to it. Like it's okay that we think that, because it's 2023, and we have modern scientists,

that we could do things in a more advanced way. There's lots of advanced things we do today. It makes sense, but it doesn't mean we do everything better than ancient people did, right? Right. And we're not also saying, hey, let's go back to like, you know, having sandals and all being farmers and, you know, praying to sun gods, is just like, let's use some of the beneficial techniques that they had.

They ultimately creates sustainability. I mean, those cities in the Amazon, some of them in the Aztecs, they were like a million people there. It's what he was saying. It's incredible. You know, they didn't have trucks to like take food around and, you know, I didn't even think they were using like horse and cart, but they made it work.

Right. They took basically terrible soil, which still blows my mind that like the Amazon has such terrible soil because it's like these lush forests, but like literally all the energy is like in the canopy You know, it's like in the foliage You know things don't grow very well there And then they found this way to deal with the soil and

You know grow enough food to keep God knows how many people alive Until we gave the until the Spanish gave them smallpox and killed them all. Was this smallpox that killed them? Was, right? I believe so, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Spaniards gave them some sort of disease. Oh my God. Stop it. Well, pretty cool though. Like I said, the psychedelic part was, you know, it was cool to hear Graham, obviously he's a board with that, but like talking about how they're gonna actually try to map this other realm because people are seeing all the same

sorts of creatures. Obviously there's a lot of geometric patterns that you see, but there's some sort of... Did you get it from Circle K? Yes, the hero badge is in a secure location, but shhh, someone may be listening. What are the coordinates of the secure location? My left back pocket. Roger that.

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Just like little lots of it at a time. I don't, I don't know if I'm brave enough to head in there for an hour, but I have no experience with that drug anyway. And you know, these people don't seem crazy when they get back, but I, after I listened to this podcast, I watched some YouTube channels. One guy that was part of the study has been talking about the entities that he saw

and like these like living planets and a planet-sized spider that wanted to like teach him about love. And I just can't even fathom what is happening that like is it a dream like a dream state? Like I don't know what was he saying that the spider is that a thing that is that a recurring entity that comes to people is this weird this spider?

I always thought it was I don't know. I always thought it was elves and gnomes and little like they often talk about machine elves. That's kind of recurring, like these creatures that can just create things out of nothing. And, but a lot of the stories of the entities are very different.

Like there's a lot of different types of entities that communicate with you. Like I've heard of some people talk about like robot looking ones. But I think the big thing that they will have in common is that these entities are trying to interact with The people that do this like they're coming towards them. They're connecting with them. It's touching them. Right? Yeah, and It seems to be it would just be so interesting if somebody brought back something

tangible, something they could not have possibly known before, and then they come back from that and they have this message. It's pretty cool. But in some ways though, because this is like so out there, I mean, I love that they talk about it. I love that Hancock is brave enough to like discuss it. But I wonder if even in the world of the, you know, archaeology that's already shitting on him at times, and now they throw in these stories of like, oh, and he's all in the DMT and blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like just so it almost adds to their ability to this mess. What's going on here? Right. Yeah. Well, all I can say is I hope it changes. It seems to be changing at least a little bit. So hopefully the more press he gets, the more, you know, people kind of watch his show and,

and, you know, give him some, some praise and look into what he's teaching. I mean, weren't they saying a lot of the stuff from his book, Fingerprint of the Gods, has actually come true? I don't know the details of that. Many things, right? Yeah, many things have been substantiated from that. And I think it's just kind of a matter of time.

You know, what's really interesting ultimately is that I think this is gonna open real areas of study because there's gonna be a new generation that wants to become archaeologists that are really interested in the things that he's been talking about. And, you know, the whole field is gonna have to adjust because people get to study or look

into whatever they want. I mean, you know, imagine if somebody wants to do a PhD and they're like, hey, I want to study all of the places in this documentary from like a PhD academic standpoint. We just have to catch up with it, I think. I think it's one of those to where it's just going to take some time. But love to have it in mind. Really hope that we can put that debate together. And then we get to...

I want to hear some of the professional pushback. I just want to know what these archaeologists think was actually going on. What's their explanation for it? And it better not just be like, well, we don't know. So we just don't even speculate. Yeah, I mean, but wait, I mean, the the fingerprints of the gods was just telling, you know, basically saying that there were clearly, there's clearly evidence of a lost civilization, right? But I wanna know what actually came true of that. You know, he talks about permafrost, existing long before modern technology.

There's areas where he gets specific of why he thinks that there was an ancient civilization. I don't know what has been debunked or what is actually true with that, but something to look into, we don't have what has been debunked or what is actually true with that. But something to look into, we don't have to get into it now, but I'm gonna look into that because it seems really cool. And I've heard that book is incredible. And like you said, it came out in the 90s.

I mean, this guy's been saying the same thing for almost 40 years. Yeah. And then, probably is a bunch of stuff in there that can either never be proven or is, like, clearly a lot of speculation, but also he's evolved too. You know, I mean, it's been many years since then, I'm sure his ideas have evolved as well.

And they're kind of honing in on more things. I know Randall Carlson has helped them a lot with that and kind of shaping his theories because honing in timelines. Because of the the the different areas that have been obviously eroded by water, right? That's the small thing is you can show this was clearly eroded. This is clearly happening from water, which clearly means there was a flood. It clearly means there was, you know, a huge flood, not just a little guy, but like glacier, glaciers times. Yeah, yeah. Instant glaciers, melting, like hundreds of feet of ice just disappearing

instantly boiling and just flooding rivers. I mean, it must have been insane, like a mass extinction event. To the whole point of archeologists is to be scientific about it, to pose a theory. It's like science is theory-based, man. You gotta test the theory. You can't just say, I know. How is that science-based?

Well, hopefully what science does, and archeology and history and like a lot of academic pursuits that are discovery based, like even physics and beyond, is that they disprove the previous thing that they were told was correct. Right. That's what it is. That's if you keep testing it and it's correct, then you leave it until you can test it to not be correct.

Right. That's that's how it works. Seems like we're testing some things here that we're testing. That's correct. Let's test it out, baby. Test it out. All right. Who's next? Love that guy. All right. Let's jump over to Danny and Michael Philipoo. Philip who? Philip who? So these guys are some YouTubers. I've been I've never heard of them before Joe had them on. Look to some of their YouTube stuff today They've had tons of viewers like they they're very big Millions and millions of subscribers Over a billion and a half total views. I think

Very funny and silly videos and recently went ahead and made a horror movie. Yeah, cool talk to me Which I watch the trailer and it looked it looked freaking dope. I want to watch that movie I don't know Party in and then what they get somebody gets like finds a demon is that what it was? It was like you shake this mannequin's hand. Yeah, and it opens a doorway and it's like you're I think you're only supposed to spend like a little bit of time in this Thing, so especially like all these kids film you It's like a like a futuristic game that they found out figured out Kind of yeah, bit of Ouija boardy type. Yeah, like a Ouija board like a 20 like a 2050 Ouija board

You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, first off, let's talk about Joe, Joe had a bit of a struggle keeping them on track. Oh, but they were very excited. And I think, I think, you know, Joe's very good at this, but I do feel like those are the pods that kind of wear them out a little bit. Yeah, well, it's like you did see quite a lot of energy. It seemed like an old man in this one. He's like, what the hell are you two on? Settle down. It's a lot of work though when you're a calmer person, which Joe is.

It's a kind of like deal with manic energy for a long time. And then also there were other distractions. This was the first part I've ever seen where the power went out during a part. It happened like four times. I don't know what was going on with that. Just getting possessed, dude. Could have been the ghosts. Could have been the ghosts.

But either way, I mean, the guys were like sweet guys. They seemed like nice dudes. I kind of was like the whole time wondering how the hell they were able to put a movie together though. I mean, I don't want to take anything away from them, but it seemed like they struggled to focus on anything. But all right. Well, coming from the ADHD guy, I know what that's like. And you it's either your manic and all over the place, which clearly they were because they were very excited to be on Rogan. But then the opposite of that with ADHD is you can focus in on something and they probably stared at their computer

screen for six months straight and didn't leave a fucking room and got a movie done. That's true. The way ADHD works, dude, it's one or the other. You're their manic or you're completely focused. Right. Nothing else. They just locked in. And you were saying that they did they don't really write together all that well because they argue a lot. Um, so it seems like they have a good system for kind of separating their work. Our travel. Again, I like that that because I agree with that. I Some of my best writing I'll do on planes when I'm by myself or if I'm

Travelling, you know, there's something about Being on a bus or a train or at least for me But I totally understood when he said he wanted to go to Thailand to like They're trying to meet this guy because their next film is what the street fighter They're trying to do so. Yeah, so they they was so street fighter is like one of my favorite video games from the past I love that growing up. I used to have a Swim and pull that we used to go to when I was like I think like 10 years old all the kids from our school And we go there every Friday we go swimming. It was like part of a school out thing that we would do.

And there was always a street fighter to arcade like in this like gym type thing and man I would spend so much money on that I would save up like all week just to play Absurge amounts of that game. So one of the characters caught the gap. He's like the second main bad guy and supposedly he's a real dude that they It's what it said. Yeah, they like they built this character around a real guy and One of them went out. I which is which Danny is the woman the bleach there. Where is that Michael? I think Danny is the bleach that anyway. I forgive me if I got that one wrong, but he went out to Thailand to find this guy. And what a cool adventure that would be. Yeah, pretty sick. One of the cool things I go ahead. I was just thinking about they

mentioned the creator of Bluey. And I know this because I have a three year old and it's one of my favorite kid shows. It's called Bluey. It's about this little dog. They're sister dogs. They're like, you know, two little girl dogs and a dad and a mom. And they're just like, mostly the dad is just like doing fun shit with the two little dogs.

Anyways, great, great, frickin' amazing animated series. And it's an Australian dude who wrote this apparently. And they were saying that he also does horror films. And that was one of the films that they were really inspired by was this dude who started blue. And I don't know his name. I don't think they mentioned his name. But anyway, I thought that was cool. That was just a tidbit I had because blue is a badass show. And it is an Australian writer. So clearly they, they know this guy or have linked up with him. Um, that's so interesting that he would write that very successful kid show. But then also do horror movies. Do you think that was like an outlet for him? He was like, you know what? I can't stand these kid shows anymore.

I don't do. Well, the beauty of this kid show is it's like parents can watch it, right? Because it's actually funny for parents, you know, like the dog will be taking a shit and like the kid will be banging on the door and he's like, blueie, I just, you know, I'm just trying to, like get out of the, get out of the frickin' washroom. I'm trying to, I'm trying to fucking do whatever. It's just, they bring a lot of like fun adult humor into the cartoon, which makes it fun to watch for adults. Obviously, the other cool thing they do for people who have kids will know the shows are only like 10 minutes long each, right? Because you

like, you get your kid watching TV. If it's a half hour long, they have to finish it, dude. You can't pull them away. So a 10 minute long show is money because as soon as it's done, you'd be like, cool, dude, it's done. Turn it off. Before the next one starts, you better fucking turn that TV off, dude. Right. You know, but you don't have to wait. It just gives you 10 minute break at a time.

10 minutes at a time. You're like, all right, one more show. Like if you want to do one more, you could do another 10 minutes, but then it's done. You know, and you're like, cool, it's done. Click as soon as the credits roll. You can be like, all right, kid, you're out. But anyway, yeah. So I don't know what the guys name.

I'll have to look them up, but I like him. Well, it's just interesting that people do both of those things. I mean, look at it from the standpoint of key and peel. They did all those comedy skits. And now one of them is doing that was his name, Joe. Oh, shout out to him. And you know, now they're, you know, they're doing incredible horror movies that are, you know, not funny. They're very dark or peel job. Jordan peel is doing the ones. I don't think I don't think no the other guy's not

But I just mean still he went from comedy for years. I mean he he was back in mad TV days But for whatever reason is like this is the best creative outlet and I'm gonna do this make good horror movies. I think it's great. You've had a gap in good horror movies for some time. I mean, especially that time from like scream and I know what you did last summer and those goofy ones. I mean, I know people love them, but they are pretty goofy and now back to like dark, you know, twisted. It's good. That's what horror movies are supposed to be, man. Yeah, it's good to see. All right, what about these medical test drugs that he was doing on himself? Number one, the hell are you thinking?

I mean, I know he's young, but still, Jesus Christ, go get a job. I mean, whatever, if somebody offered me money at that age, I would have taken it for, to take some random drug without thinking about it, honestly. I know I would, because I remember there was tests in Bozeman, I mean, it's a college town. We would, there was this place called, oh God, it was like something science.

Anyway, you go there and I remember we had to get our chest shaved and then they put some ointment on there for like a week and then you come back and they you know what to see whether or not had a rash on it and they gave you like 200 bucks I was like fuck y'all do that. Did you do it? Yeah I did it. Absolutely. What? Just when I was about to rip on it you did this too. Of course you did. That's why. Maybe it's an ADHD thing dude. I don't know. Maybe that's what. That just sounded insane to me. I was like, maybe it's an 80 HD thing, dude. I don't know. Maybe that's what that just sounded insane to me. I'm like, what are you thinking?

Like, why would anyone do that? I guess now we know. We wanted free, like a quick 200 bucks. Did you get a rash from any of those things? No, no rash. I was good. I was good. Do you know what it was that they were giving me?

They don't know. I'm sure they gave me some sort of pamphlet I never read. I don't remember. It's like radioactive purge kids. I don't know. I'm sure they gave me some sort of pamphlet I never read. I don't remember. It's like radioactive. Pro college kid. I don't know. Yeah, but he was saying he turned yellow. He was shaking. There was muscle tremors. I had none of that. I mean, this was an ointment. He was saying he was like taking pills every other day. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like a bad move. And then these same lunatics with like doing all those

car crashing. Oh, buddy, that was the biggest one. Yeah, just getting like a bad move. And then these same lunatics with like doing all those car crashing. Oh, buddy, that was the biggest one. Yeah, just getting nailed by that car with no helmet on nothing. I mean, she jumped right in front of it. That could have gone so much worse. So much worse. I wonder, I guess you like a stunt man, you do probably get better at getting hit by cars if you practice.

Johnny Knoxville is somehow still I He clearly, you know, being. Oh, he's he's very messed up from his. Oh, now he is. Now he is. Yeah, he's he's struggling. Dude. So much in so much. He probably regrets a lot of those things, but he's rich. So maybe it's worth it. Well, yeah, but it seems like this is a horror show we need to go watch. I mean, it's got 94% on Rotten Tomatoes. You don't see that very often. It is gross to 90 million already. I think I'm gonna watch it tonight for sure.

90 million. I'm gonna put that on. Yeah, dude, it made some money. Good for them. And even though, you know, the super hyper guys, I mean, I like that style, you know, and they young. Imagine how, if this is good already, how much better can they get with these things?

You know, all that experience from YouTube, all that experience making those YouTube videos and building a ginormous YouTube following, they know how to capture people's attention. I like to also have Joe question them on their YouTube channel, right? And it's like Joe has a big YouTube channel because he has one from the podcast. But he's also not like a purest YouTuber in the sense of like Mr. Beast and other people that are like trying to go viral, etc. But when they said, hey, you know, we wanted to do longer form stuff. You know, we didn't want to do this like click baity thing

just to capture attention. That's why we wanted to do a movie. You can't really do that on YouTube. I love that. And I liked how Joe was like, hey, I'm gonna call you out on that. Why not? If you're into it and you and people already trust you,

why wouldn't they be into that too? And I liked that style because it's like, I see both sides. So I like that style, because it's like... I see both sides. So money's the thing, but it's not everything. I think you really look at the importance of what are you doing with your time. The conversations that we've had with our financial advisor is very much building what that framework looks like that helps support those important things.

The places where you're investing your time and your resources, your family clearly, and those closest to you. Edward Jones, we do money differently. Visit EdwardJones.ca slash different. Yeah, I see both sides, but also, you know, who works for who here? Do you work for the channel? Or are you just being creative and hoping people will like it?

Now, remember with Joe, he doesn't feel like he works for anybody. He's always said, I just do this because I enjoy it. I do it my way. I mean, he's not stubborn about it. He's just like, this is how I do the pod. Like, you know, he could bring on more people that are controversial or he could get more arguments or he could become more like a news anchor. Right.

Just kind of like stirring stuff up, but he's not into that. He's not interested. It doesn't seem like he doesn't. So people either like it or they don't. It doesn't seem like it. Although I would say critics think that he has some sort of agenda, which is always frustrating to me when I try to explain that I really enjoy the show. And sometimes you just can't, you just can't fight it.

You just have to let people have their opinion and be like, okay, and I'll just be like, all right dude, I just think Joe wants to know the truth and he's interested in some people and those are the people he brings on the show. And I don't think he has an agenda at all, but a lot of people think he has an agenda, dude. A lot of people think he's a waste,

he's a waste of whatever then he is. I, dude. A lot of people think he's worse than he is. I don't give him enough credit for that. But one thing he does that I always really like is he encourages people to do what they enjoy. You know, not think about what people are telling you to do or how people are telling you to do it. And it's very hard. There's a lot of pressure because there is.

There's advertising money out there. You don't want to be demonetized by YouTube. You don't want to upset your audience. You don't want to take those risks, right? It's so you're so fortunate to even be in a position where anyone pays attention to you anyway. It's like, how much do you kind of like bend your own values and morals? Right. So like maintain this and grow it or how much are you just willing to be like, this is who I am. Like it'll love it and go from that. I think probably people are just too worried about being, I don't know, canceled or irrelevant.

Yeah. There's a lot of that happening. So it's a real, it's a real fear to have. You know, but I don't think horror movies are going to be doing that. It's politics is what gets you fucking banned. It's not. Oh, yeah. Then moving into the world of like actual movies is a huge jump from YouTube for sure. I wanted to finish up with just some of the sleep being it sounded like they're both don't sleep well No surprises here. I mean turns off You you could imagine that it doesn't I wanted to talk to you about like house sleep is affected by your ADHD

Mm-hmm, or is it I would assume that most people with ADHD have sleeping problems. I'm maybe not Yeah, maybe they sleep well and they just can't concentrate. I sleep wonderfully once I actually go to bed. I mean, typically I can, typically I will stay up to like one in the morning every night because my brain doesn't shut off. But then there's nights where I can go to bed at nine o'clock because I stayed up until midnight or one o'clock

for the last five nights in a row, reading or doing work or watching a show. It's just like my brain doesn't turn off sometimes. And on those nights, I try to get some work done, right? Instead of just doing scroll, because I'll do in scroll if I don't try to focus all that energy onto something. So typically if I want to try to focus all that energy onto something. So typically, if I wanna go to bed early

and I can't, I will try to read and that'll put me right to bed. Like reading out on if I try to read. Other nights, I'll just work because I know I can't sleep and then I'll catch up on sleep at a later date, two or three days later, I'll go to bed at nine o'clock and sleep 12 hours and then catch up, you know. But it's not consistent. Yeah, so tough to have like a consistent sleep.

Yeah, not consistent at all. Okay. I mean, I mean, I only think it's just for that. I'm staying up, staying up late, but I do. I sleep like a gem once I actually go. And it naps our huge for me. You know, when my kid goes for a nap, I'll nap with him. Mm-hmm. You know, on the weekends, like one to three o'clock, like get a two hour nap in and those

are huge. Or just go to the gym and, you know, nap in the steam room. Get like, just five minutes of the gym. Meditation in the steam room. I like it. A nice shit shower shave, you know, it's very rewarding. Well, either way, these guys, I thought were awesome. They were great. What about Shane real quick? Five minutes of Shane because man, I mean, he's a legend.

Yeah, get it. Let's finish up with Shane. Well, what I appreciate about Shane, I mean, for those who don't know Shane Dory and he's one of the best surfers of all time. And it's like high-light video galore dude. I was watching so many of those yesterday. And I think my biggest takeaway

from this one from someone who's had quite a bit of concussions. I've probably had six or seven concussions in my life from snowboarding. And that's how he sounds like that's how he hurt himself or hurt his knee. And then also got a pretty bad concussion from snowboarding, but has had several obviously from getting slammed in the waves, you know, I mean, some of the waves, this guy serves unreal. But what I appreciated about it was this, you know, you can be old, but you can still do all the things. And Joe talks about a lot. You've got the EEG therapy, the TRT, you know, the testosterone supplements, the human growth hormone supplements. There's a lot of things, clearly from research it's saying,

if you have head injuries, you now have low testosterone, and your hormones are out of whack, and you got low hormone, and you need a supplement for that. We have supplements for that. Now, I've never tried them. I would like to. I'm wondering if some of the depression that I've experienced in the past is because of all the head injuries that I've personally had.

So I really related to that because he kind of went on and on about how he's doing these. What is this brain? He was talking about having this something hooked up to his brain where they can read it. What does that cause? At the EFG thing where they're, sorry, I've got in my notes somewhere, but he was saying how he, once he was taking these hormones and the testosterone, his brain was functioning so much better and he was way less depressed.

So there's been there. There's definitely clearly something there. And it's been talked about many times. And Joe takes testosterone supplements. Have you ever tried them? I've never tried them. Yeah, testosterone supplements. Yeah, I've tried those.

Shane's thing is called wave neuro technology. Okay. So it's. And then the vitamin D thing, being low on vitamin D as a surfer. That was crazy to hear. When you're the sun all day long, how are you vitamin D deficient? I wonder if that's something to do with the saltwater. You know, and obviously they're talking about meat, you know, does meat really increase

the rate of cancer? Well, what kind of meat? Right? That's a huge question. Yeah, if you're eating McDonald's every fucking day, yeah, you're probably going to die cancer or heart attack. Yeah, I don't recommend processed. But yeah, like clearly, if you're eating elk meat every day, that's not going to give you cancer. They do say barbecuing is actually has levels of cost and agendas. Well, yeah, it's the crust. It's the crust. It's the crust on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all relative. Like if you put that on a chart with like cigarettes and probably God knows what else

alcohol, like are they saying we're consuming? You're not charging you so much less. You're not charging your food every day. And when you, when you put a steak on the grill, you're not, it's not super charred. Yeah, it's not like a piece of coal that you're eating. You know, I'm thinking of like, when you have a barbecue chicken, there's quite a bit of crisp on there.

It makes it taste better, right? But you're not doing that to your steak. No, I don't know. And then this whole thing about Australia and Canada being super like non pro first amendment and second amendment, that was his strange. It's disturbing to hear. I mean, especially Australia, I just don't understand it. I've always seen them as

bless them a wild country. They seem like to have that as is I mean, look at the Philip, the one who were just talking about Philip and Danny. Uh huh. Danny and, uh, sorry, not Philip. That's their last name, but Michael, Michael, anyway, yeah, they're crazy. They see, it seems like that's their last name but Michael Michael anyway. Yeah, they're crazy. But they see it seems like that's the Australian's I know I'm surprised they put over it. Canadians different, you know, they're very polite so maybe they're easier to control with like nonsense and yeah, then this breakdown of First Amendment and

individual freedom in both of those countries does not make me want to live there. I wouldn't want to live in Canada for sure. Sorry, Canada. I'm sure you guys are great, but what you got going on up there is not going to work for me. Well, it's interesting that he had an opinion on that too. Well, it's because he serves in Australia. He's been going to Australia's whole life, so. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. He has a lot of experience with it. All right. Let's call it for this week Appreciate you as always Todd. Thank you so much for listening everybody. Hope you had a great week next week is gonna be insane We got Elon Musk on there and David Blaine even so it going to be a great episode.

We'll talk to you later. Right on, peace out, brothers.