Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 357 Joe Rogan Experience Review of David Grusch Et al.

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

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Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. We've got a doozy this week. We got good old David Grush. Ooh, UFO guy. Talking in front of Congress. And then Dave Smith, he always gets into it. Dave Smith. Yeah he does. He's a comedian, but he's a news guy when he's on JRE.

Join us always by my good friend, Pita. Hello, hello. He's with recently. What's up, Pete? Glad to be here. Appreciate you having me. Mm-hmm. Howdy.

All right, let's start with Dave Grosh. You know, I have to say, I'm, I guess I'm more curious that he came on Rogan and Rogan had him on. I knew that Rogan would want to talk to him, but I wasn't sure if Rogan was like, maybe he's just a bit of a... A plant?

An inside metal? I don't know. Yeah, maybe. You know, he's a guy that had, he was tasked with investigating UFOs for the Air Force. He had a lot of clearance, you know, he came forward, spoke to Congress, didn't really like give that much information because so much of it is classified. So it was like real teasing. He never said everything. Yeah, which he can't, which get but I mean I wondered if Rogum was like you know what

there's almost no point having him on because he can only tell me so much you know but he's such a big player in the game right now when it comes to UFOs that I guess it had to be done so So there we go. He's on, dude. Did you ever watch any of the congressional hearings with him? Now with him, I watched the first declassification of all the UFO files that the government had had kept hidden since the 50s, but I had not watched any of his new stuff. Right. So yeah, they had Commander Frava on. And this other Air Force guy that, um,

or Navy guy, I think that, that Rogan had on. Um, you know, that's like, scene firsthand. These things flying around and trying to make sense of them. Um, David obviously was like somewhat the most compelling. He kind of led the way in this because they came after him. You know, they tried to discredit him, say that he had PTSD and like, folk, which he says that he does have, you know, but like make that like a stigma, right, to discredit him, which is bullshit.

The government will do whatever Canada to win. Yes, sneaky bitches. Sneaky. But you know, as he like led the charge on it, it's really the furthest we've ever got. If you could like think of a foot race with like UFO like intelligence, like how far are we getting? It's like he brought it forward a bit more. Oh yeah.

We're not all the way there. We don't have the evidence. We don't have the picture of the UFO. He didn't see the things, but you know, he's talking to very credible individuals about this event, these are different events. He's hearing stories from people he trusts, that ultimately he would be like, yeah, there's just no way in our world of communication that these people are full of shit. And especially if they're saying,

I saw it myself. I worked on this myself. That type of thing. I mean, if you take him as credible, he said that he is, he confirms the existence of four entities, biological entities, different species of aliens. It's like, that's nuts. So they're real. How do they, how do they know the different species? I mean, they just look different. From my recollection, or excuse me,

my summing up of all the information I have from all that, there's four biological entities, species they've collected from crashes. So they pick up the bits and they analyze that. Now I'm going to throw this out there. And that's only because when we live together, when we are rumies, we had a pug. So if you found For different dog species and One was a wolf and one was a pug you would be like these are completely different animals. Yeah, but it's it's the same

So before we get ahead of ourselves and say They're different species From whatever I don't know what that means, whether he's saying they're potentially from different planets or whatever. Maybe they just have all different shapes of things. Species is probably wrong for me to say, but like different varieties. They got the, yeah, there's like the little gray,

the big gray, the lizard type, and some other kind. But I don't know. Which one do you think is the bad one? It's gotta be the Lizard. I think the Grey's, they're like the Grey's. They said I mean the big Grey's. Is there a good one? Um, I don't know.

I wanna feel like there's a good one of all the types of aliens that, but they all seem scary. What are the kind inside? The depictions. Oh, they're waste. There they're way scary. They're like lizards. Yeah they're like we're very tall but they can't open doors so pretty useless. Idiots. Yeah so oh and also on top of that he's saying what was there like over a dozen ships that have been like unknown to like most of the high-level Intelligent agencies across the world

like dozens of ships crash and found or have been identified Yeah, I found like some so old that they are like Artifacts like they're digging them up. Yeah, I can buy that. I'm a huge nerd like you. And I like to research or look at ancient art, cave art, Renaissance art that depicts some of those depict spacecrafts in the sky.

This stuff has been going on since you could paint on walls for like 12,000 years old or more. 20,000. You would imagine that there are only painting stuff on walls that is like pretty important to them. But they've seen. I mean, it's usually like a bunch of guys with the spears chasing a buffalo. And it's like, yeah, that's really important to them. I mean, it's usually like a bunch of guys with the spears chasing a buffalo. And it's like, yeah, that's really important to them because they're doing that every day

because they got to eat. It's never anyone picking carrots. How many carrots are on a cake painting? No, they're eating. No, they're not into carrots, they don't care. So somehow they like throw in like some alien pictures, clearly, you know, some of those cave paintings like clearly look like alien pictures dude. Oh, Tarmac, cave paintings. And they're like, yeah. All like ancient imagery. They're, they're, they're painting what they've seen,

they're painting what they know, and they're not painting what's not important. They're not painting oh, carrots, like I said, or cabbage. They're painting people, animals, and sometimes they paint huge, interesting objects in this guy. Yeah, as far as I know, there's not one cave painting

of a dude just like taking a dump. But there is a kind of a bit of a... And it's a... And it's a bit of a... Yeah, but that's maybe more important, right? That's maybe more important. Like pooping, you know, is a thing that happens, but they're like, you know what,

this doesn't seem like we need to record this. A bit of a wank that'll be fine and definitely aliens. So there's something, there's definitely aliens out there that the phenomenon of UFOs is real. There's no denying that. UFOs are real. What they are is debatable. What the government knows is also debatable. But this guy says it's fucking real. It just is, it seems fucked up though, that of all the bullshit that the government pulls that they have like actual alien

like technology and Evidence and they just won't tell us like what why Like you don't have to release the technology right keep it locked in your bases But just be like hey by the way just so you know it's happening Like, hey, by the way, just so you know, it's happening. You've been asking, it's there. Well like, we don't know either. It's all good. Like covered, like.

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But now it seems like they don't give a crap about that. They let it. They seem to be chilling out. On that. Yeah, they're chilling out. On that. Well, I think what they've got to is a point where it's like a stalemate.

They've been potentially trying to reverse engineer this technology for like 50 years. They're like getting some of the way but like almost nowhere, right? You know, it's almost like a caveman finds a laptop and on the laptop there's a, and there's maybe like a, you know, maybe there's like some velcro that holds the screen flat. And the best we figured out is how to move the mouse and also make a velcro. But the whole rest of the laptop, we have no idea how to, you know, because they're cavemen. They can't figure it out. It's a great analogy, honestly. And yeah, I feel like that's as far as we've got.

And they're just like, you know what? Maybe we should like branch out a bit, like not declassify it that much, but like open it up to some more areas. He did talk about company. He said that they're cross the referencing with the studies is not there because if you're a Lockheed Martin guy, you're a new engineer graduate from MIT and they say, hey, you want

a job, but you can't publish a paper, you can't tell anybody about it. You have to make 80,000 a year at the most. So that kind of cuts us up at the ankles. Yeah. Once you open it all up, it could be different. What do you think? Well, Bob, Bob Lazar said that. He goes, you can't do science in a vacuum. You know, it was like they had the propulsion guys, which he was. And then they had the like the metallurgists or the chemical engineers in another spot and then they had biologists and another nobody's talking to each other you know nobody's like putting

a huge like solid picture together they're keeping everything secretive and that the gains you make are so slow you know but especially if you don't have the research teams that are cross pointed by the other fields. Yeah, you do, you do expect everybody to be talking, right? However, you know, it's somewhat reasonable back in the day that, or even now, maybe that they felt like they had to keep it that way. You know, it's like, hey, all right, we've got two choices. We can either make huge gains and then some spies are going to get a hold of all this information, or

it's going to be leaked to the public and they might lose their minds. Or we take it real slow. Like this technology is not going anywhere. We've got it stored in this warehouse. We've figured it out eventually. Maybe some super genius nerd, like an e, you know, they should have just brought Elon Musk in. He's too rich, but they should just be like Elon come here. How the fuck does that work? I trust him. Have a look at this. I trust that. I'll tell you. Figure this out. He just walks up like knocks on it twice. He's like, oh yeah, I got this. What does that carbon whole hide? Yeah, that stuff is tough. It's how it works. It's how it all works. Yeah, I don't know man. It's about control and money. Like we always say. So what do you know?

Yeah, I mean, what about that story of the Italians finding a bell-shaped craft that was not working, it was switched off, doing nothing, and then they basically brought the Germans in to take a look at it, and this is like World War II era. I mean, that must have been mind blowing. Like, supposedly there was like, deep secret operations that the Germans were working on that was like, really focused on that technology. Now, should they have been mostly focused on making the atomic bomb? Probably. Probably.

For the ASIC. been mostly focused on making the atomic bomb? Probably. For the ass sake. But there was, there's talk of them like really leaning into the UFO side of it and probably back then with that technology, they weren't gonna be able to figure it out. You just couldn't reverse engineer it quick enough, but it makes sense to lean into it.

Well, there's Evidence of a lot of art technology having come from reverse engineered found spacecraft So maybe it came from that I thought it came from that bell shaped Italian object because they mostly focus on I'm making a pizzas you know what I mean and make it a pizza What what kind of reverse engineer like light? What are we talking about? What kind of, you know, flashlight is one, but also, like, unfolding panels, solar panels or ash, not food or, you know, centrifugal gravity, like you have to spend a space station to have gravity. And just this some stuff that was leaps and bounds beyond our physics at the time. Right.

Just like that. Lays, laser beams, Brazilian wax. Maybe the micro processor. Probably that. How we use pathways of molten metal instead of row wires the nuts Yeah, 3d printing. I'm not an expert Yeah, I well they won't tell us but like it makes sense

It makes sense. Well, what do you think this guy? David Grush goes from here like what what, what do you think that, so he's on this tour, he'll probably write a book, he's making the rounds, you know, he's still collecting some information here and there. Like where does it go from here? Does this, well, but does it open up a door for other people

to come forward and be like, hey, he's talking about it Maybe I can and I actually touch one of these things. Oh, you know, we've had these stories for hundreds of years We've had the stories of first contact for hundreds of years and at least dozens like the Brazilian kids that have seen the spacecraft land near the school and there was more than 20 of them who received a message They saw something they saw a craft You know, it's all about how valid we as the populist deem it to be is it right? Is it not is it bullshit? Is it not? My prediction for this guy is he'll have his claim to fame and if he doesn't get involved with another

Covert operation till fade into obscurity Or he'll write another book or delve deeper. I don't know sure. I hope we see more for him honestly. Yeah But saying that though we have all these like anecdotal, and let's call them that because they're not coming with pieces of evidence. In the same way, David did that, right? And Commander Fraver did that. It's like, he has evidence, I guess, in terms of radar from his aircraft, his fighter jet.

But mostly what makes him compelling is he's like a legit fighter pilot. This guy is an legit Air Force Intelligence agent. Spook, right? Yeah. And like that's where it really picks up. Because unless you can figure out why they would even bother coming forward. It's like, yeah, that's legit Okay, that adds that credibility and I think that's really The bonus the gold here is that he's opening it up for

other people to come forward the type of people that we really want to see, step forward and say, hey, I was right there and I feel brave enough to do it, even though I had to sign on this shit, the said I can talk about it, I just feel like I have to. I mean, I don't know how good the government is at scaring people into keeping their mouth shut. I feel like they're probably very good at it, but maybe they're losing their grip on that. And maybe it's for the overall good as well.

Maybe even the government is like, why are we trying to keep this so quiet? Well, ultimately, that's the point. Like, it doesn't really even matter if you keep inquiring or not, we're all gonna be absorbed with our daytime TV. You don't care about this stuff. Who do we know that even has heard this guy's story? The people don't care about this stuff. Doesn't matter.

Well that was what was amazing, so COVID was going on. And the New York Times like posted the first like declassification where the Pentagon even acknowledged that UFOs are real and they're investigating them. And I dude, I was so excited when I heard this. I thought it was going to, dude, I thought it was going to change the world. Nobody gave a shit. No one's so few people. Nobody gave a shit. No one gave a shit. So few people. Nobody gave a shit. They were right back to complaining about whatever. They were like, oh, there's no toilet paper or the fucking Costco. And I'm like, are you kidding me?

Like the Pentagon just said UFOs exist. And they're like, yeah, but, you know, I really wanted some paper towels this week. And it was just overdue. We're so distracted. We're so desensitized by new info. Everything's a catastrophe. It's all on the edge every moment.

And when we learn about the aliens, we're like, of course, there we're, duh, next question. But I feel like there's an opportunity for hope there There's there's like a uniting of the human species It's like we're a species that however you want to say it whether you think we're more advanced or we're just like Look what is more advanced me? We're all evolving right just the fact that and Rogan talked about it recently it's like why is it snail less evolved than than we are it's like he didn't say that exactly but it's yeah it's just like we're all evolving right some other species just stop what they need to and they function very well and we actually could probably wipe ourselves out quicker than a fucking shot could. So does that make us more advanced?

We just, a smart, we can pass knowledge on. We seem to stand out as like a particular species at this time. But to know that there's these other creatures from somewhere else with all this technology might bring us together, dude. You know, in a way that that governments, you know, haven't really thought about that might create a cohesion between. Are you a Dave Matthews band fan? Oh, yeah, he's great. I mean, I don't listen to him much, but it's pretty pretty.

20 25 hours a week kind of guy. That's a yes, smokes a weed and just get down well there's you know he has a line it's it's like what if aliens were true what if aliens are thing will we put the weapons down or would we put them up at the sky you Like, well, it could unite us and it could also destroy us by that knowledge. That's the worry of the governments, I think. Dude, we're not like anyone that thinks that we're pointing fucking our shitty guns at anything that can go across interstellar space and state is hidden as they have been Probably time travel. It's like what are we doing dude that would be the dumbest

fight ever Dumbness got to be reason we should just be like all right. What do you need? What do you need guys? We can't fight you haven't the let us know that the aliens been here in more Frequency than they have been previously since we drop the the tonic bomb Supposedly, yeah, that's kind of but here's measuring before that, you know Yeah, I mean, you know, there were reports. I don't, you know, it might be a combination of like people taking report seriously after that and like dismissing them way better before that, you know, I mean-

Not cool, I didn't think about it. We had, well, we had, you know, the beginning of the 20th century was just like, you know, early industrial revolution stuff. We've got just getting cars. We're looking down. Then we've got, yeah, then we've got like World War I. That's a big mess. We've got the Great Depression. That was a big mess. Right after we got World War II, that was a fucking disaster.

It's like, it wasn't the best 40 years. And you and I, I like I'm 42 So the amount of time if I was born in like exactly 1900 Like that is a shitty 42 years to live. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, really bad dude I would not be focusing too hard on who's seeing UFOs. I'd be trying to stay alive. I think also there wasn't the Spanish flu thing like the original horrendous

COVID like yeah what was that like 1917? Yeah, 17. Not a great time to be alive. My grandpa was born right before World War I. No, the same year. Yep, the same year. And my grandpa was born in 1930 and he was a child for World War I. And he talked about just the most, no, no, no, 1930, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no nine to forty five. Fact check. We need a live fact check. We need a Jamie. Yeah, I'm pretty sure a 39, 45. That's, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, exactly. And then, and then World War One, I think was...

17. I believe it was like... Now, I thought it was like 1914 to 1980. It's war one was 1917 to let's see. I'll just do it. 19, oh, you're right. 14 to 18.

Yeah. Huh. Dude, I got my walls down, dude. You're a Brit. But either way, yeah, I'm a Brit. You started a many things. You finished them. But either either what yeah I'm a Brit. You started them and you finished them. Looked out of the United States. Kind of. We needed your help. And I love America for that. I'm going to say that right now on this podcast. Love America. Yeah. I say that too much as well. Not enough.

Anyways. All right. Let's jump over. Let's let's let's finish this depressing alien stuff Which which also is like I don't know maybe it's uplifting I'm positive I want to find them. I want to find them. I want to hug them. I want to own one Sorry, sorry, I take that back. I want to be I want to hang out on a leash. I want to own It doesn't seem like they're here for our detriment. I think they're here for good Otherwise they could fuck us all up at any time. It's not bad. Is it? It's not bad. Yeah Well, there might be some bad ones considering all the mutilated cows out there Good point. I don't think they're here for bad. You know, they should you know, they should do they should come here and

Good point. I don't think they're here for back. You know they should you know what they should do they should come here and They should do like like a mentor no no No, yeah games show 100% they should do a game show, but they should do like a mentoring program Where like each family gets their own alien and they did they just like help us organize You know, they just like hey, let me let me look at your budget And you're like, yeah, your budget sucks and then they just like help you out and then they also can do They they also do what looks like magic, but it's only because their technology is so good They're like turning the lights off with their fingers and you just like, oh, that's pretty good Go show some cool games. We love you squid bro

Yeah, they should do that do that aliens help us out all right. Let's jump over to Dave Smith now Who Dave Smith? Dave Smith he's a brainiac so He is he's smart guy dude great comedian by the way let's not forget that even So he is. He's a smart guy, dude. Great comedian, by the way. Let's not forget that. Even though he gets into it heavy on Rogan's, but he knows that he switches a gear. Rogan talked about it.

Yeah. He wanted to kind of really get into the meat and potatoes aware of it. How does he keep all that in his brain? How does he do that? I he convinced me like you know, I'm switched gears. I'm I'm one of our team David is on or same Dave Dave yeah, I want his side Dave Smith Yeah, I want his side. Dave Smith. I think.

Yeah, he's a very smart guy. Obviously he does his podcast, which is political type stuff. So he's staying focused with these current events, breaking them down, and making sense of what we're understanding. He's analyzing the news, he's seeing what's out there. He shows big enough to where he has like, you know, legit conversations with other solid reporters and just think tanks. So he's able to put his message together clearly. It's a hot list and smart people. Libertarian politics, dude.

It's like, it's an informed state of being. Whether you are one or not, it doesn't, I'm not saying you should be, but like, very few people that I talk to, whether I agree with them or not, that say they're libertarians, do I think, oh, they're not well informed. Like, these people, oh, yeah, they are.

They're fucking thinkers, dude. They're middle of the road, and they're just reasonable. And sometimes, you know, my biggest frustration with them is sometimes the truth is hard to hear from them. I would say that you know sometimes I have like rose colored glasses with with some of my thoughts and they break it down they're like nah, nah dude, not like that. This how it is. This is what's going on. I mean, so let's get into it. The Hamas thing, Palestine, I mean, the Israelis, you know, look at the news, look at where our focus is. I mean, again, we talked about this last week,

but like real quick, they forgot about Ukraine. Like, that guy, well that guy had full support. Oh yeah. Like, I'm not just saying full support. He had like the most ridiculous amount of funding and support that anyone has really ever had. And now he's like begging us for credit. Like a like a addict. He's what I think.

Yeah, what Joe said, he's like scratching. That isn't that. Well, that's what happens when you get in bed with Biden. You get a little bit for a long, for you get a lot for a little bit, and then nothing forever. He's done with you. And not that I'm a Biden guy versus anybody else except for

Yeah, he's got you back for a minute. Yeah, no, I got it. He's he's he he turns when the wind changes for sure and he's like the next big thing now is this and Let's only focus on that. And maybe that's votes. But it's just amazing how so many people follow with it. I'm guilty of it. To be honest, I'm guilty of that. I guess we all do it.

I guess we all do it. Yeah, but... You know? You know? You know? I don't know. It makes me kind of not want to get too invested in any of them, to be honest. I'm just like, alright, what's next?

What's the new distraction? We're all, we can all get play- Let's go again. Yeah, but either way, I mean, you know, like they pointed out, it's like, it's probably not good. Like, for example, I think of this, right? Imagine being... Wait on the big dog.

Imagine living in Palestine and you're like a fucking bread maker, dude. And you make the best bread. You're like the Tom Papa of like Palestinian bread. They need it. Peabody bread. Bread's good. Good for you. The Lish. And you've got, you've got no vested interest in Hamas. You never liked him anyway. You just live in in this city. You're just making great bread. You're the bread guy. Awesome. Yelp. You've got a solid Instagram account. People loving your bread. Doing good.

You got like two or three kids. And then all this shit kicks off. And then you can't get out. You want to. You can't get out. You feel responsible for like maybe feeding the people that are there that you care about in your community and then a fucking missile blows up your Breadplace and kills one of your kids

You're gonna be pretty salty, brother. Well, I don't know if I go that far, but you're gonna be pretty obsessed You don't have to get radicalized you can like also still remember that like You can like also still remember that like forgiveness and not being like holding massive resentment is I think what I hear you say is forgiveness goes out the window when you have no other options And you just blew up your bread store and your favorite son and a couple of girls and Yeah, not good dude. What are you... Not good, and it just comes back to that innocent civilian thing. Oh, yeah. Right?

It's this like the drone strike thing. This is just like, anyone, anywhere that's innocent. And you know what, kids always are. They are always innocent. I know that it's easy to look at any enemy that you perceive that you have and be like, well, their kids will just grow up to be that way. I mean, maybe, maybe they will, but kids are fucking pliable to you.

Yeah. If you don't, if you don't feed kids with shit and blow them up or like give them a reason to hate you, they usually won't hate you. They will grow up to be, this is why generations are so important like there's an Opportunity that to be like hey, we're not all bad. I hear that and You know, I mean that's what's difficult. I'm just like okay Israel like I know you're pissed off and I get it. I'd be pissed off too, but leveling a city get it. I'd be pissed off too. But leveling a city, like, which buildings are you hitting? You're going to be in care for about this? You're going to make more than you kill as far as insurgents or rather extremists or people against you. You're going to make

more than you kill. And I think what David Spirth was saying, and he's Jewish, by the way. He's Jewish. He's a really good point about, well, okay, let's put our kids in that building and say there's some people holding them hostage and then the sheriff comes up and says, okay, we're gonna take out these insurgents. We're gonna take out these offenders and you're like one of my kids in there and they're gonna say you know

Unfortunately, they're gonna be a casualty of this situation for the greater good of killing these bad guys So you that was that was a see but this is exactly what I'm talking about about these like libertarian types is like I would not have ever thought about that, or even had an opinion. But these guys often come at you with like, hey, that's the fucking reality. Think about it. How would you feel? And it's not good. You're like, oh shit, I need to like, not only rethink this,, but like kind of take a position and be like,

damn, I'm not about innocent people being killed, not that I ever thought that I was, but it really cements it. And then you like, yeah, you kind of feel like a bit responsible, which is reasonable. It's like, hold on, hold the phone everybody. Let's just chill. He said some amazing stuff. I really, really recommend him. He's good right? I

Only know what I hear. I'm only only here. What is you know given to me? I don't do any I don't go to Gaza or Is your look at the people there and make my decisions so I cannot so he is one of those people that is actually make my own decisions so I cannot. So he is one of those people that is actually has some insights in the amazing amounts. I appreciate his views and the fact that he is of Israeli descent makes it a little more credible. But if it's that to take us work for it because I can't be there myself. But if it's that to take us work for it because I can't be there myself Also the whole human factor has to be taken into account with Putting yourself in that same position. I I'm not gonna give up my kids

So if somebody is gonna be putting those in danger, I have to be against whatever activity precipitates that. The result of me losing my children is going to be the complete antithesis of my opinion. And I mean, that's your radicalized. That's's I'm Asking about radicalization. How did you get rattled hot radicalize? Well, my kids were killed. I was on the fence before Imagine just being on the fence You're like I've been thinking about it, but I just don't know, I just can't quite get that.

Oh, real quick. So-and-so just got blown up in your bread shop. Okay, I'm in. I'm in, hand it over. It's poor Ahmed. Poor little Ahmed just in there. Yeah, he laid it out. He laid it out.

The hit. You know what? There are no, I don't really have hatred towards any particular groups of anyone. I'm not a big fan of the French. Not a big fan of the French and sometimes genders. I'm like, I don't know what I'm trust them. Can we? They seem strong. But, but like, you know, politics aside with anyone, like Russians, whatever, it's like kids across the world, I fucking think they're great. They're all great. I get it free pass from us.

Cause they're kids. They have to, dude. They have to. They have to. And then, Otherwise, what are we doing? Fucking kids get a free pass. What is goodness?

It's, Nah, talk to Epstein. I can't, because thankfully he's dead. I heard, I saw a meme the other day was like, about how Trump got prosecuted before Epstein like well he is dead but where are the files man where are the files man wait wait what Trump got prosecuted before Epstein or before anybody on the Epstein list excuse me Trump got oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, amazing. Yeah. Also, let's not forget Clinton

Flu want to play with him 26 times. Jeffrey does has a nice plane Day for a Jeffer Pete Pete. I've known you a long time We've had a lot of adventures together. If we ever even flown on a plane together once Nope of adventures together. If we ever even flown on a plane together once, nope. No, not one time if we got anywhere. So if you go 26 times, like, is there any way that you wouldn't know what that other person is up to? I do. I know Pete, I know what you're up to all the time. Do you know what I'm up to? I know everything that you're up to. And vice versa.

26 times and he's like, I'm just doing my thing. I'm playing the saxophone. Rogan has a beautiful Bill Clinton impersonation. Dude, he has one of the best Clintons. I actually think that's his best impression. No actually he has two other Joey Diaz is very good and then Alex Jones is like spot on but his Clinton is good dude. His Clinton is excellent But exactly it's like Clinton is excellent. Oh, my free time.

But exactly. It's like. Do you do that? Yeah, these people are not prosecuted. Fucking what's his name? Prince Andrew. They're just like, oh, you can't be a prince anymore. And just live in your mansion somewhere.

But don't worry about it. We were far too comfortable to be people. We were too comfortable to be. I'm much too honorable. But this is the world we live in dude Let's finish up with something a bit lighter Well actually Elon Elon is like trying to get in like he's

Accidentally or maybe on purpose getting in trouble for some Like supporting some anti-Semitic tweet. I don't really know the ins and outs of it I was trying to look it up today. It didn't look that bad He was just kind of not not downplaying something. I don't really know it wasn't like he's jumping into it But they are really after Elon at the moment. Yeah, like the Ever since he bought Twitter the media are like fuck him So he's got a tougher ride, so I would take that with a grain of salt.

Also don't let him off the hook, bless him. I mean, I like him, but if he starts to get fucking Kanye on us, we might have to take a closer look at that guy. They're not that. It didn't seem that bad. Yeah, it didn't seem, he's's mostly just you know and they're saying oh There's so much more hate on Twitter. It's like well

Isn't a bigger free speech platform gonna have more hate that's that's like pond fossil, but it also has free speech has less try has his certain lines in the sand and they include CP like I think that is no as no platform on X anymore whereas it used to have a bit so yeah yeah it's good for me that's better for me but I feel like I feel like the more extreme liberals today would quietly just be happy that exists, deny it, and then be also happy that nobody is saying bad things about anything that they believe. And you know, if you face someone with it, if you were like, you sat like, some buddies

of us, right? And we talk to them, Pete. We know who they are These like you know woke liberal type Sign up for everything your friends sign them all up bless them sign up for everything But if you if you sat them down and you were like okay You don't like what's being said on Twitter and they're like no dude. It's fucking getting racist I'm like okay but there's in order to reduce that there's gonna be 10% more child trafficking are you comfortable with

like these are the sorts of you know metrics we should start feeding some people and then let's see yeah let's see how fucking strong they want to take that side of it. It's like, all right, well, just let it exist and maybe it's not that bad. It's like it is sort of self-hung. They call it map now. Mine are attracted persons.

Oh, geez. It's who calls it? People that, you know, she'd be on the right side of a long-ended rifle. That's what I say. Yeah. Map. Yeah. That's the new thing. It's not even that new. It's from the I believe the 80s. Minor attracted persons. Really? You got to keep an eye out for that terminology in our media. Yeah, that's not good. No. That's what old granddaddy Alex Jones would talk about as well. So everything we are right now, like it or not,

we owe to that white neck bastard. Tiddy. You know, you can't, you can't hold it against them. I mean, he's nailed some stuff and Rogan talks about that. All right, let's jump over to the Chinese Emperor tomb that they can't stop for. Let's hope we need to ask about that, All right, let's jump over to the Chinese Emperor tomb that they kinda stopped for. Let's hope we need to ask about that, Adam. Good old bit of history.

Emperor Chin, come on. Chin. How, okay, so number one, amazing that he made all of his soldiers into like terracotta, you know, clay, whatever terracotta. Which is clay, right? A roof tile. Typically? I know like those red roof tiles you see in like Spanish villas.

Oh, like heated. Yeah. That's essentially terracotta. It's, uh, yeah, it's that. Love that. So he makes his whole army individual. And then he also like how many were there, but they're each individually crafted to look.

Do this like hundreds. No, there is thousands There is and it like Jamie look shows It shows their face like it it's not just like one form or one lazy mold They're all individuals like each person's face like an individual person is made They look realistically human. Well Chinese. And each individual. That's human. Don't take my podcast in that direction. Okay. This is for our love Chinese. But yeah, everyone is like a representation of like how they looked, you know, and he surrounded by him

Which is dope as fuck then they buried it in the ground because because that's also cool. How you bury somebody? Dude, you know, I've often thought about like imagine just being like an ultimate emperor on the planet I always like Viking burials. I like the idea of being shot into space. Like, you know, you just make a big celebration about it. Right, you're dead though. But there's, well, it doesn't matter. But there's nothing more dope

than just being surrounded by hundreds of people that would die for you in play form and then buried into the ground. So you do know that? I mean, as long as it wasn't a burden to other people, like you don't wanna be like, I'm just saying you don't wanna be like, if you could have given that money to charity,

that would be great, right? Let's not get carried away. Not for those guys. But if it wasn't a resource issue, and somebody was like, however you want to go, you just say it. That's the dopest way I've ever heard of anyone dying. The, some of the Incan kings actually ran their economy

into the ground by being dead. They had a cryptocracy, meaning every king that had died was honored as a king for the rest of eternity. So they were treated like a king for the rest of anybody's existence. So they were just dead. They were towed around. They were brought to new functions. They were They were brought to new functions. They were given new Quicks of mummy mummy literally a mummy But they were dead and people were like giving them food given food Given invurgings taught carding them around but anyways high five and they were high

They were not being so bold as to high five them because they were oh You told you high five the king my dude I'm just saying like whatever the cool handshake is for back in the potacutee whisper Well, all right, well that's game. Okay, but on you got to at least you got to at least bury yourself and that's That's the eternal Kim Jong Il, you know That's that's the eternal Kim Jong Il you know that's the eternal father figure there might have been talking to this thing that's the eternal father figure that we have to avoid we have to die get buried that's

what Shin did not do well but also he has like a secret tomb with potentially a bunch of jewels and shit and rivers of mercury that could... I don't know how that works. They're going to Indiana Jones drown you in mercury. Is it so there? I feel like you would die real quick if a river of mercury hit you. That would not be good, right? Well, is it...

What would happen? Would it crush you? When they say rivers of Mercury, I see uh, rivulets of Mercury. I see a two-foot wide by 20-foot squirrel around the tomb. I don't see a river of Mercury. I see a ribbon of Mercury.

Do you know what I mean? How would that kill you? It's not fixing to kill you. You just step out of the way. It's not gonna kill you. It's not fixing to kill you. You just step out of the way. It's not going to kill you. It might not even be there because it has seeped into the ground. It's diffused, you know. So it probably isn't there, but it's probably very poisonous dirt.

All right. Stand by. Because you were just saying that they made the soldiers out of like tile. Yeah. So you could have a tile-ish room that probably could hold mercury. Okay. And then just wait for a trap door.

Okay. And then open up and flood. How big is a river? Like a whole. Wow, you know, it's relative. So to whatever space you go. Am I here a river of mercury. I think of a place like 20 feet by 20 feet.

And a river in 20 feet by 20 feet is probably a channel in the ground that moves. You know, not a river. A river is hundreds of thousands of cubic centimeters per foot. Not. Yeah, but maybe, maybe, okay, so it's like, it's like a large pool of mercury stored in like tile. And then as you get into the tomb, thinking you're going to get all the gold or whatever is in there. There's like that precarious little stick on it with a rope on it that like you know

rabbits go under and it's like you don't even notice it you just yeah yeah you just like oh you just pull that and then the door opens and then you just get flushed out. So maybe there's only like really one go, because look at Indiana Jones dude, there's only really like one go. Exactly. So one person can go in, they get killed and some stuff squashes them and all the booby traps are gone.

Exactly. But you've got one go. And no one's been down there, so they don't wanna go, because they're like, we don't know how that's going to go. I don't think they wanna go because they don't wanna to go because they like we don't know how I don't think they want to go because they don't want to jeopardize their national treasure They don't want to like you know China bro. They're not trying to do they they want that gold everyone's gold

They don't need diamonds and shit. They've already been in there You think so the Chinese government has already been in there like they're disseminating information they're not trying to... They're not trying to get you in there. They're trying to just make a story about how great China is. They don't need you to get in there. They do not want you to get in there. I like it.

So they're not going to go in there. Or they've already been in there. And you know, how about all the pyramids that exist in China without them researching. There's so many pyramids in China. They have a huge hit. You know that they're checking them out. They have a look.

They're not caring about the look. They don't care about the look. They want to see what's going on in there. They like their own history, don't they? They have a narrative about their history that only fits one outcome. Do you know what I mean? They only have a nerve it they'll they only want to Show you their perception But if we have any Chinese listeners I like you and Shishia

10 listeners I like you and Shesha. Oh, don't panda. Don't stop pandering, okay? How about? They either like us or they don't. And don't you panda to people? I'll use Jackie Chan's. I'll miss you. Legend.

Well, there we go. So Dave Smith, great. Glad that he's coming on a lot I said this last time I want him on a Lot I feel like he's like the new News update guy for Rogan and he's found a place there It just brilliant. I love the fact that he's a comedian too and he can also like lay down this knowledge Like it's super useful because he's like it just it just gives me more trust because I'm like yeah This guy's like no bullshit, you know whether he's right or wrong. He's no bullshit. He's doing his best He's doing his best and I trust that yeah for sure

Very exciting week though Who's there was another comedian on this week and we didn't really touch on him. I do Ralph Boboza. I want to give a shout out to him because he is very funny. It's funny. Great dude. Good stand up. Check him out on YouTube. He's an up-and-comer. He's making the rounds. He's just brilliant and he's young. He's going to be big in the world of comedy. I wish we had had time to talk about him more,

but like many of the comedians that Joe is kind of like given a boost to, the conversations are a lot about comedy. We do those sometimes, but this week, they're just ones of space for it. But anyway, Pete Thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it as You know is becoming always. Thank you my friend cheers to you. Oh cheers to my lad my love Hmm and to everyone out there. Thank you as always for listening. We appreciate it. Tell your friends Get them to listen.

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