Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 371 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Shane Gillis & Matt McCusker Et al.

Episode Date: February 17, 2024

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Enjoy the show. Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. My name is Adam, I'm your host and co-hosted by Good Ol' Pizza. Hello, hello. What's happening, dog? Oh, not too much. How you doing? Doing good.

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So how's that taste? Well, it's just capsules, you can't taste it. But revs you up, dude. Tasty? It's like a new tropic. Pumps you right up. And gets you going. It works. Okay, not coffee. I am more so on coffee. So I combined the two.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm on a few stimulants myself. Well, you got to get your brain going in the morning. It's good. Move. I don't figure it out yet, but I'll just keep trying until I probably blow my top of my head off. That's it. There's a combo out there.

Yeah, you don't want to rev it up too high, though. You don't want to rev it up too high. I mean, I don't recommend doing a pre-workout before a podcast. You might be a little shaky. All right. Who we got this week? We got Shane Gillis and Matt McCusta. Good old Matt, he's funny as hell. Love that guy.

Then we got Aaron Rodgers and finishing up with some Cam Haines and Steve Rinella. Cool to see those two together on a pod. Long overdue. And had they done one on Steve's podcast yet? Oh Steven cam Yeah, I'm not sure if they've done a meaty so with though. I would imagine they would have I don't listen all the meat eaters But I do like that show very good podcast Just not enough time in the day

We have a lot of podcasting to listen to. So much. I think we listen to more podcasts than anyone I know. I listen to quite a lot, yeah. However, people do send me their Spotify yearly review, because they try to beat how much I've listened to Rogan, and often people do. Oh, they beat you? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's not unusual. The, I was, when they first started doing that year-end review of Spotify, I often was at the top of the group of people that would send me things and other people that would just like show it on their page. But recently now they've been beating me Yeah, well you're a dad now. So you have you have something stuff to do. Well, I don't really get it

I mean I listened to all of them. So maybe some people are just going back and listening to All of the Rogans plus more Rogans Repeating Rogans. I mean that that is- I can't get enough. I can't get enough. That's a lot. That's a lot of Rogans. They're all over it, yeah. What a time.

All right, so Shane Gillis, Matt McCuster. Now, Shane Gillis is just crushing it in the comedy world. Incredibly well respected by other comedians. And, you know, like very normal dude too. Like he doesn't really have like, you know, super ego persona. He doesn't, you know, play any sort of a character. I mean, not that many stand-ups do,

but he's just very much him. Like he just dresses like, like that's the clothes he found that day. Not saying he's gruffy, but he's just like, oh yeah, I'm not dressing up to do stand up. I'm just gonna show up and do my thing. And, dude. Does it seem like he has any terrible vices

or any deep closets with huge skeletons in them? That's it, loves Bud Light. Loves it. Well, he's a bit gay then I guess. He's fine. He's great. He's great. And then Matt, Matt's really blown up as well. It doesn't seem to have got quite to the level of shame,

but in a lot of ways I think that that's only a matter of time. He's so funny too. And I watched a big chunk of his comedy special that was on, I think it's on YouTube. That's where I watched it, Matt's. And it was good. He's very good. Those two have a similar style. I do feel like Shane on stage can pull more out of the ether and create the gold immediately. Comedy muse speaks right to him. Yeah, he just and he doesn't seem to have much fear while he's up there too.

Like he's very chill and relaxed and has fun with it, loves to make fun of himself. I mean, he he's like the perfect combination of things you need for to be a stand-up. Hilarious. He's he's his smile and his energy is an infectious when he's up there. Oh, you just want to giggle along with him. No, he's always, always. Uh, so Bud Light coming back, they sponsor in the UFC, sponsor in Shane Gillis.

I mean, good move. You have to say that's a good move for them. You know what, beyond it being a beer I don't enjoy, I don't, I mean, they fired the right people to fire and maybe they're just getting back to their basics and it's Hispanic men and blue-collar dudes. Yeah, right? Like, where I'm from, they're just,

only people who drink that are Mexican workers. Yeah, that's true. And you've got to appeal to your base, right? It's like, it just doesn't make sense to have bikers, a famous biker gang sponsor in the ballet. It's like, maybe a few of them like ballet, but you got to match these things up. Exactly. So good job, Bud Light.

Get it together. Figure it out. Don't forget your base. Don't forget it. No. Oh, so they played that video and this is something that's been going around on Instagram. A dad at a wrestling match, high school wrestling match, I guess his son was put in like an illegal move and like slammed to the ground. Then the dad runs over and tackles the kid

that smashed his son, banned for life. Yeah, I saw that. Dude, look, I know that's your son and you gotta get, but it's like wrestling is dangerous and You can't be tackling kids, dude No, you can't it's not it's not good and what are you teaching your son solve everything with violence? Not a good start No, not a good start and bearish the heck out of them. I'll bet you also

You know after seeing the dads tackle, I'm like, maybe you should have spent that time teaching your kid tackle like that. And he wouldn't begin slam so hard. Put him in a put him into jiu-jitsu. That's it. It's probably safer. I feel like wrestling is more dangerous, more injuries in wrestling, I'd imagine. My nephews are wrestling right now.

And it's just I'm so proud watching those those kids. It's badass, right'd imagine. My nephews are wrestling right now and it's just, I'm so proud watching those kids. It's badass, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you did the move, I taught them. That's a great combo too. Like if you could get your kids into Jiu Jitsu outside of school, because obviously they're not gonna teach that in school,

which I wish they would. They should teach Jiu Jitsu in school. Like that would be great. Why can't that be another sport that they have in schools? But then also have them doing wrestling as well. I mean those kids are gonna be so tough Well the wrestlers they have such an advantage over someone who just starts to get to so I Just I'm so stoked. They're doing it and once and I have them I've a plan to transition over and they love Jujitsu too. Oh, nice, nice.

There's really good youth Jujitsu teachers in Albuquerque as well, wherever you are. There are lots. Mm-hmm, yeah. That's good, maybe. I used to teach over there in Flagstaff and well, when I got an opportunity to teach the newbies, it would come in, it was just, it was, it's rewarding.

Yeah. It's really good. It's really good. Take some patience to work with the kids, though. Their retention span's all over the place. Joe was really ripping on Shane with his Bud Light sponsor, especially talking about potentially having to shoot the horses. Gilles was like, Hey now, that might be an expensive joke. Yeah, I don't, don't condone shooting horses. Lest they break a leg. Well, that's what he was saying.

But just like saying, I wonder if Bud Light does this. I mean, Shane, Shane was sweating. He just got his first sponsor and Joe was like, I don't care. This is funny. Yeah, Gillis did not like that. Well, I think that bringing up that topic on Joe Rogan is going to help out Bud Light even more. Oh, of course. There's nothing to worry about. Of course, of course.

And then Shane brings up the video of him, uh, basically threw his buddy under the bus. It's a video that he put on his Instagram where, um, friend of his another comedian like falls over getting out of the cab. And then he gets it from the club security has them give him the video so he can post it on his Instagram and then talk about it on Rogan. So what like 12 million people saw this poor guy fall over Just a bit wobbly on the legs there It's a price you pay man if you if you're hanging out with people with that kind of range and exposure

You're gonna do if you do something stupid You're gonna get called out But but that's the thing that they all do it right. They're all self deprecating in the right way I mean right after that Rogan starts talking about the times he shit himself This podcast is brought to you by better help. I recently got married and am Days away from having my first child So working on my relationship and communication with my wife is very important and it's going to be vital for raising a kid. A common misconception about

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And just basically just shit all down his own legs. My God. I hope he had a cloth seats. to one time and just basically just shit all down his own legs. Like, yeah. I hope he did have a, I hope he had a cloth seats or not cloth seats. I don't think I've ever had it or leather you'd want, right? That seems like easy to clean. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a car shouting moment that I can remember. I think I would have remembered.

Maybe a minor. I've had a very close call once, very close. Yeah. And I do have cloth seats. I've never even, I've never had one of those moments where, like if you had to go, if you knew you were going, would you just pull over to the side of the road and just get out and embarrass yourself?

That's what I did. And just, I was on the freeway. I did like a four lane change merge, got off in the first exit, went to like some auto parts store were behind there, and I just, I just sinned all over the parking lot. Oh no. It's not my proudest moment.

The only thing that would make that story better, if just somebody was walking by and just pointed at you and went, shame. I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm sorry, ma'am. She's just trying to dumps the dive in peace. There you are. Oh, yeah. Sweatin bullets. You gotta be careful. I mean, that's why you shouldn't eat Taco Bell, I think. New Mexico food is spicy and we like our services out here.

So add those together, get up at six late for work and you're gonna shit your pants. Yeah, that's a brutal combination. You are asking for trouble at that point. One thing they mentioned is like the change in Instagram. And I don't know if you've noticed this, people I have like more and more videos of people dying. This seems like a bit of a trap.

There's a setting on your Instagram where it will like, the algorithm will, uh, what do you call it? you know, downgrade those videos. Yeah, the guidelines will kind of push those down on your algorithm. I took that off. So I'm I'm I'm following some pretty pretty terrible stuff now, too. Yeah, it seems to have been pushing that out, though, kind of on its own.

I didn't change any settings and I'm still seeing occasionally some gruesome shit. I mean, you know, clearly people are making it. They don't show the very end of it, but it's like someone throwing from a car or just like blown across the street. A lot of times people are doing that stupid thing with the tires where they're like putting a tire on but they're using gas and flames and it kind of pops.

But then they blow themselves across the room. I'm just like, they- I haven't seen those. Oh yeah, nasty. Do you know what I mean though, with like the way to put tires on a rim? Yeah, that's common, especially for huge tractor tires. It's pretty common, but you just need a little bit.

I think, yeah, they're going overboard. Something's going wrong. I don't reckon that. I've seen a lot of those, and then those street takeovers, you know, where those kids just like block off a whole intersection and do donuts and stuff, and then someone gets creamed by their car, like falls out, the car rolls over on top of them.

Oh, yeah're nasty. What are they getting up to? I mean, I'm all down for having a good time, but that one seems completely unnecessary. Just drive properly, everybody. Just racing a straight line. Have fun with that. Have you seen the one where they're doing donuts

and that one bigger gal walks out in the middle of it And she just gets whammy and flies like 20 feet. Oh, no My goodness send it over. She's okay. She had a lot of padding That's what you need a lot of padding. You don't want to be a skinny skinny one out there. Those brittle bones She's she's a thick-asset lady. She's she's gonna be she's to have the thighs to take that, you'd hope. Hopefully it didn't ruin the charger. Oh, it did. It's always a charger.

It did. For 300. Have you happened to see the documentary they were talking about? I think it's called Love is One. It's like a cult documentary. I'm not asking that yet. It's one a cult documentary. It's one of the newer ones. And Shane was banging on about it.

I think Joe was keen to watch it as well. It's one of the better cult documentaries because of the absurdity of it. So it was this young lady, I think she was from like Texas or something, she was a manager at McDonald's. But she had been, yeah, she'd been getting online and looking up all this hippie-dippy nonsense.

And then somehow slowly started dating some of these guys and basically made a cult while she was a raging alcoholic. Um, thought she could channel celebrities such as Donald Trump and Robin Williams was the big one. So basically anytime she got really drunk and went off on people, she would blame it on Robin Williams. She'd be like, Oh, he was channeling me hard last night. It's like the most perfect get out of jail free card.

You just blame it on celebrity, dead mind control or whatever you would call that. And then towards the end of her life, as she was dying, she said they were all taking that colloidal silver, which is some sort of supplement that they think is good for stuff. I don't really know what it does, but eventually it turns you blue.

Turns you blue. Pretty sure it's turning you blue because it might be killing you. Or gray, it kind of turns you gray almost. There's a fella that is still alive, I think that is totally blue from that, drinking that colloidal silver as well. Like, he was like Santa, but blue.

Oh, does it never go away? I think it might fade, but you probably might be turning your whole inside blue as well. I don't know. What are they thinking? Yeah. So they were, so they were keeping her drunk and feeding her just constant colloidal silver. Yeah. Cause they were like, you're the chosen one.

You're basically God, you're fine. It'll be great. And then she was like, I'm not sure I am God, but they were like, yeah, you're God. Yeah, you're God, keep drinking it. Don't stop. You're doing wonderful work. And then in the end, she dies probably

from alcohol poisoning or like liver failure. And then they keep her mummified there at their little place. In her eyes. None of them went to jail. None of them, like nothing happened to any of them. They just all disappeared out into different spots in the country, probably trying to start new cults.

Freedom of religion. Wild too. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it is wild. Too much, but if you haven't seen it, definitely check it out. Yeah, mommy. Ooh, Shane talked a little bit about doing some mushrooms in Austin. Did the chocolate mushrooms in Austin. I may have tried those, allegedly.

Allegedly. He described them as coming on way too quick, wasn't really like mushrooms, was a bit more like mushrooms than acid. I concur. Be careful if you go to Austin and try any chocolatey mushrooms. Go low. Start low.

You can always take more, but you can't ever take less. You really can't. That is great advice. I mean, very rarely in those experiences, especially with like edibles and things, have I been like, man, that night wasn't that great. I should have taken more. Rarely. But- You saw God that night.

Yeah. There have been other days where I'm like, that was, this is too much. I don't know how to breathe. Ah, you look- It's funny that breathing becomes important at that moment. It's just like the only thing you know how to do. Ah, it's good times, good times.

But yeah, be careful with those chocolate. Concentrates are concentrated, they're concentrated, so be careful. That's it, the dosing. Well, but this is again, the problem with it not being legal is that you just don't, you know, you're not getting those doses, it's right. It's like, who knows what they're putting in there,

put whatever in there makes it exciting. Yeah, they, it's just concentrated. So any old, you never know what you're going to get. No, they're not regulated. No, I recommend going easy. You just have that one guy in the group that's a wild animal and just be like, all right, well, let's try him on, you know, good old Steve for night one. See how he gets on.

And then what you kind of dose based on his recommendation Like alt steves on the tables again too much CJ turn tables. Yeah, he's he's stood on him You yeah, we're gonna have to back off from that. All right, let's jump over to Aaron Rogers What did you think of it? We're not gonna talk about honey badgersgers? Oh yeah, they did finish up with how fucking dangerous those things are. Why, how are they so tough? They just don't give a fuck. They have to deal with leopards and lions and hyenas.

Even an evolution baby. There's lots of small creatures over there that have to deal with that too and get eaten. It's like for whatever reason, creatures don't like to fuck with those honey badgers. I watched a video where three lions were trying to get one honey badger and they were like, well, that we're having a hard time with this. Let's let it go. They let it go and it comes back and is like, you want to mess with me? Let's go. Let's go, buddy. Oh, it's still wanted to fight him? Yeah, it was like, I'm not turning my back on you guys. Oh, they need some anger management, I think.

Their skin is like moves on their body in a way that like, I don't know, it like just rolls on their body. So these lions are having a hard time handling them. Oh, you can't get like a good bite. Couldn't get a good bite on it. It's like a death weasel. And it get like a good bite. Couldn't get a good bite on it. It's like a death weasel. And it has like a sweet name. You think Honey Badger would be like the nicest badgers.

They should call it ferocious badger that also eats honey. That should be its name. They had, I may or may not have been inspired by a Honey Badger when I invented that a Honey badger proof beehive. Oh, that was genius. I do remember that. It was a good invention too. It was a good invention. That was another dosage issue. That was a dosage issue. Inspirational. We got inspired to create a business. We never followed through on it, but we could, we could

have been millionaires from that one. Honey, it's still time. Let's go back, reinvent it. All right, let's jump over to Aaron Rodgers. Come on, Aaron. All right. So great football player, obviously. MVP style guy. Also bit of COVID controversy with the vaccine. He didn't want to take it. Oh yeah, months. And people were all over him. People are still mad at him for that, some people. But you know, I think now it's pretty clear that he should have questioned those things. And it seems like his demographic, high performance individuals of 30 to 40, just dropping dead from my from all cause mortality, myocarditis, myocarditis. That was it.

Right. He's, he's wasn't having it. I mean, he's a super athlete and you know, he's not one of the younger football players, but he certainly wasn't old enough to be in any category that would warrant a need for vaccines. Absurd. The pressure and good for him for standing up for what he believed in. And thank God he was so good at football because

At the end of the day the talent is what? What keeps you relevant? And he has enough of that He's one of the greats really is What do you do recent like the beginning of a season like blew out his ACL right or something? It's been an easy. Oh it E thing. Oh, it was. And he did have surgery too. I did notice that he, I don't know if this is like current or since the COVID thing, but he does have a little bit of that like conspiracy theory, researchy energy going on, for sure. Well, he's been proven right. There's a 900% increase in all cause mortality for that demographic.

Why? Why did it happen? I don't know. So nine times is worse, huh? Yes. That's what he said. And you know, that's Joe bangs on about that quite a bit as well. But yeah yeah we need

that we need good data on that I mean why is it locked up for 70 years the data is unavailable oh because they don't want to get sued yeah like it's it's not for anything out like they can justify it however they want to it's because they're worried about getting sued and they would It's because they're worried about getting sued and they would, they would get horribly sued by people. But they have immunity, they planned it all well so that they stayed out of trouble and they won't probably pay anywhere close to the price that they should for the hundred billion

that they made off people. Off of us, we've funded that research and we don't get any returns right no no I just just got pretty fucked over to be honest yeah Joe is saying some interesting stuff like they the most the highest fines in the history of the world are from medical companies and pharmaceutical companies, but yet we're supposed to trust them,

even though they have had the most repercussions out of any sort of litigation ever. So why would we, like that, that doesn't make sense. So just trust them, just trust them, everybody. Well, it's not just that they have the highest fines I mean, let's say that there were like Bankers out there that had similar fines or some corporation that had similar fines Well, what we're also not taking into account is these fines are connected to them killing people Right, so they kill a lot of people and get fined the most yet. This is an institution. We should trust

because No one else makes better drugs or I mean yeah I mean I get it some drugs are good for some people many drugs are not good for anyone and I would say most of the drugs that are taken aren't necessary for the people that take them. I mean just look at oxys You got some I got a stash Some not anymore and I don't have not after poppy pee comes over you get you got some backup oxys But yeah, just think of the lives of that ruined. I mean, yeah, people are in pain. I get it, but there are other pain medications

and other ways to solve that. And yeah, just destroying people's lives, dude. This is the big thing I think that people forget. It was weird. It was like we didn't trust pharmaceutical companies that much before the whole COVID thing. And then they managed to just flip the switch on a lot of people.

And now we're out the other end. I think it's back, if not worse than it was before. People are really not trusting them. Less trust in these institutions. It's gotta be. I mean, there's still some gullible clowns out there that are like, you know getting Pfizer tattoos and Making a big fuss about how great they are and save the world. But

Yeah, fewer and fewer I think What's what's Travis Kelsey is like the anti Aaron Rodgers like he's the exact opposite. Uh-huh. Oh, he's not also. I mean, it's not a he's not a Like he's the exact opposite. Uh-huh. Well, he's not, also, I mean, it's not a, he's not a quarterback, but he's like, or is he? I don't know. No.

I'm bad at sports. Yeah. He's like, he's like, just loving the limelight, getting paid millions by Pfizer. Taking all the money. Or if, I'm not even sure he is getting his boosters, he might be a hypocrite. You, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting no boosters. He's just taking the paycheck They don't care if we get some or not

Yeah, I think him and Taylor Swift are gonna last I couldn't Careless Okay, we're saying page. Yeah, absolutely couldn't care. I mean what but also look at the Taylor Swift effect It's like that Super Bowl that was just on is the second most watched thing ever after the moon landings. And it's because a singer went to the Super Bowl. I mean, the Super Bowl is always like pretty well watched, but 123 million people watched it.

And that was like, that was like clips of her and people will be losing their minds. Just a basic ass white chick. Dude, well, you know, there's this whole conspiracy right now about Taylor Swift and being a Psyop that she, you know, she's like supporting Biden and it being this big like government conspiracy to try and get the Democrats to win regardless of what it is. I mean Taylor doesn't like Trump and People listen to what she says. So I'm sure they are being very supportive of her and wanting her to have You know plenty of time to speak about politics. The only thing is, it's like how many people that listen to her young girls are going to like

remember to go to the polls for this? Like, is that enough? I guess it could be really actually, it could probably, she has hundreds of millions of fans. That's true. And they are diehard. could probably, she has hundreds of millions of fans. That's true. And they are die hard. Yeah. So if she says vote for somebody, I imagine that they would.

They might. Yeah. That's wild though, isn't it? It's like the whole way politics is done. If it is seen because of polls, and they could take polls to be like, why do you want to vote for this person? And Taylor Swift is one of the answers?

I mean if they find out that that's really the way to get votes They're gonna adjust their whole game Well, they said Travis and Taylor Said they'd move out of the United States if Trump won so then I mean Hopefully he wins. You know, many people say that it's all bullshit. They ain't going nowhere. We, it's the best country in the world.

It's just facts. Here's the facts. It's pretty great. You're free to ruin your body. You're free to ruin other people's careers here. It's really free here. Can have guns. Shoot them into the sky.

No, you can't do that. They still do. Go to a range. Yeah, you shouldn't. Shouldn't do that. No. Well, oh, what about, um, Tucker and Putin interview? You see any of this?

I did watch a lot of that. Okay. Um, Forrest Putin is, he's articulate. He knows things. He has a working brain. He still seems to be one of the more evil people in the world. There is a bit of that vibe. Maybe that's our pro American bias, but he does seem like, you know, just the way he fits in that suit. And the way he's staring at you.

Like he looks like a gangster that is going to court. So he had to wear a suit. You know what I mean? It doesn't like quite fit. It's like, I would believe him more if he was in a tracksuit. I would like to see that. It's like a nice gold chain or something.

Mm-hmm. He'll be done. Like Russian vibes. I don't want to see him in a furry hat or something. Full on Russian vibes, yeah. Just holding like a bottle of vodka and just spewing pro Russian vibes. I wanna see him in a furry hat or something. Full on Russian vibes, yeah. Just holding like a bottle of vodka and just spewing pro-Russian propaganda. He's, his top political rival just died in the Arctic.

Whoops. And they have a prison camp in the Arctic. Of course they do. Good spot to put them. You do not wanna go up there. You do not wanna go up there. Yeah, they just open the doors in the evening and they're like, you can go if you want to.

Free to go. It's just bears over. It's just bears everywhere. Buller bears. He dropped dead. So the guy, he's dead now. So, yeah, he was... Well, I'm sure there was... Maybe he got the vaccine. Nothing untoward going on.

Nothing to see here, everybody. Nothing to see. They were like, he was squashed in some sort of machine, natural causes. That's a typical Russian death there, though. It's just a square, juicy, squishy, square blob. Yeah, he's a, I mean, I'm not gonna say our politicians aren't evil, but he seems pretty bad.

Probably as bad as Vladimir Zelensky. When you're locking up your rivals, that's always a bad sign, I think, for a country. And to be fair, they're trying to do it here. And, you know, say what you want. Yeah, he committed crimes. Well, I'm sure they said that in Russia too, that that guy committed crimes.

It's just one of those things that if you're trying to lock up the opponent, then something's out of whack. It's a sick system, a broken system we have, but it's still one of the better ones. Yeah, I know, I know. Well, CNN were all over the Tucker interview. They're basically questioning why he would go

and saying that he's pro-Russian. And should he even be allowed to come back to the US? So like, what is any of that? I mean, clearly CNN are just upset that they couldn't get the interview because there's no way Putin sinned down with CNN. What a joke. And also they don't do it. They don't do it. They don't.

They haven't for a long long time it seems like. But Putin's been interviewed by three or four American journalists over the years. So it's not uncommon for people to go interview important people in the world. Right. Let's face it, he's important. Yeah. I think it's just... What he's thinking.

It's just that, the timing, you know contentious time and It was interesting to see some of the other videos that Tucker was doing in and around this whole interview Because you know he like he went to a McDonald's had some food there and a McDonald's pulled themselves out of Russia with all the like And then McDonald's pulled themselves out of Russia with all the like tariffs and stuff like that. Gotcha. And so they made like a fake McDonald's now where they just copy all the shit.

So they just ripped them off and cloned all the food. And he's like, yeah, it tastes as good. No GMO and it was cheap. Food is cheap over there. They went to a grocery store and it was considerably less than it would be in the US. I mean, the standard of living is different. You know, you're not paying the employees the same amount.

It's not the same cost to bring the food to the store. So, you know, you would expect it to be less expensive. But is it also a reflection of how our economy is? To me, it seems like food has doubled in the last few years. Groceries are expensive now in the US. If you want to go to McDonald's in Flagstaff, Arizona and get a meal with a large meal with everything you're gonna you're gonna spend almost 18 bucks or something It's crazy. It's it's too much But also like you can just skip McDonald's and be better off. That's it don't eat it but on that note, there's probably only three

grocery stores like that in Moscow or maybe 10 in Moscow, but there's none in like Kamchatka. There's not a lot in Russia. There's like three cities. Right. Yeah. For how big it is. What's the population in Russia? They must have a lot of people. I'll look it up. Look it up. Yeah, they must have a lot of people That's why they're so difficult to beat in wars because they just never run out of people They have 143 million Roundabouts Wow in Russia. That's not a lot of people

Yeah, well, it's a lot of people but Russia is the biggest country in the world. That's true I mean America has what like 330 million Yeah, yeah roundabouts. So we got more people Well, they got more people they can send to war easier. I think Americans would be like nah Not gonna go Not feeling well, which is too we're just too fat to sweet. We can't go Yeah, that is true. Well, you're just too fat too, so we can't go. Yeah, that is true. Well, you and I are too old.

We're too old. Those, yeah. We could do like a wall podcast. Yeah, we could like say, you know, it's going good. Going good, got some drones. Throw out some. We could be drone, we could be drone pilots. We're good at that.

Oh, yeah. I don't, I wouldn't want that job. No. No. I work in a cafeteria. I'll be a truck driver. Just feed him. Just feeding people, keeping them happy.

Feed the boys. Yeah. Over there. Keep them laughing. Keep morale up. Just hanging out. Maybe we could work at the bar. Could be bartenders at the base bar.

I've gotta have that. Just polishing glasses, sleeves rolled up. Uh-huh, keeping a classy. We could do that. That will probably be our best spot, I think. I think so. Yes, sir. We try it.

Agreed. Well, finishing up with Aaron, they talked about no debates happening no debates for the president well one can't and one shouldn't yeah so perfect combination I say let's do it yeah whatever let's roll could you imagine Biden doing three hours on Rogan no I think he could even do it or he's like full of sleep? He has a regiment of chemicals that he needs to operate. Uh-huh.

I'm almost positive. And he also needs maybe 20 hours of sleep a day. No doubt. Grandpa's, grandpa Joe's sleepy. Sleepy Joe, bless him. Sleepy. Trump could do it though. Trump would do, Rogan, no problem.

I mean, he'd probably ramble the whole time. Joe would barely say anything. He's, he's fun to listen to. Let's just be honest. Yeah. I don't know. It's wild times. And then they finished up with, with how 30% of kids today identify as non-binary,

trans, gay, or bi, 30%. It's a big jump. And in 2007, there were only two pediatric gender clinics and now there are hundreds. Hundreds. What does that say? Yeah, that's- In 16, 17 years,

is now hundreds. Where, you know, to be honest, they encourage and support. It's not like they're just their just to support reluctantly. Like they are there to encourage and maintain their business. So yeah, I think in a couple of generations, we're gonna be hearing some horror stories coming out of the back of air. How people were misdiagnosed,

not supported the right way, and possibly pressured to do things that they now have to live with. Yeah, pressured by their peers, encouraged by potentially sick parents, and then enabled by these amoral doctors that make up to $70,000 per transition, I heard. Right. That could be wrong.

But $70,000 to cut some boobs off a 14-year-old girl? Yeah, not good. Potentially not good, right? I mean... I just... It's not good potentially not good right? I mean I just it's not good. I don't I don't Hope I don't have anybody to answer to so I say it's not good. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we don't have how many times did you change your mind as a 14 year old? I know right I Didn't know shit then No But I was mostly playing video games. So what was the worst that was gonna happen?

Just becoming a nerd. Not studying. Yeah, well, that didn't happen. All right, let's finish up with good old Cam Haynes and Steve Rinella legends Legends, legends in the hunting world. I've said it before. Steve Rinella really is like the, um, what's his Anthony Bourdain of the hunting world, I would say. Yeah. And actually he, he took me hunting for my first time too. Oh, nice. Back in 2012, right before he met Joe, I was one hunting trip away from meeting Joe.

Damn, that would have been dope. Yeah, I would have been starstruck honestly. I've been a nerd, just like, uh, uh. Well, but if you think about him back then, he wasn't really well known for his podcast, so you would have only known him for probably fear factor or UFC. TV on the radio?

What is it, TV on the radio? Oh, yeah. TV radio, I forget what it's called. His show from the 90s. That was a good one with David Spade. I don't think David Spade was on that. Oh no, another guy. Mad, Andy Dick. Yep. Andy Dick. Yep. Andy Dick was on that news radio.

So, uh, yeah, I mean, you still might have been star truck struck from, uh, fear factor, though. I would have been. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you would have acted weird you went acting around Steve? He was pretty well known then wasn't he or no? I Was a weird 22 year old Fair enough, so how did your first hunt with Steve come about a Good friend of ours Dan or a friend of ours Dan Dodie who I Worked with on another wilderness program,

Hoods in the Woods, taking kids out camping for therapeutic practices to try to solve some of their issues, recommended me to Steve. And then I had it, ZPZ Productions make that, and he was a producer for them, so he got me on that one. Oh, okay

So you're working with Steve when you went on the hunt? Yeah, I was a wilderness production assistant. So I would help carry gear help look for animals help chop up animals It was a great time in my life and I had if I had different goals I would have tried harder to become more involved in that now Did you know much about hunting stuff before you started that or were you learning as as you went? learn as I go I had never been hunting and I would just get it being outside just camping and whatnot. Oh, that's cool No, and I could lift heavy objects

Yeah, that's important and you probably didn't make a fuss about being out camping and being cold and setting up gear and that's a wonderful time That's nice. Did you get Steve is awesome? He is. Oh Yeah, he's he's exactly like he is On the podcast as he is in person. He likes stories, he loves people, he's practically minded, he's a family man. That's awesome. He likes people. Yeah.

And you can tell. Well, you can tell that about Cam as well, like the kind person, really nice, kind. They were obviously both super passionate about hunting. I don't think Steve does a ton of bow hunting. He's more rifles and other things, but it's cool to see these two come together for sure. Yeah, it'll be pretty badass to go hunting with those two. Steve is a very round hunter. He'll he's he'll traps. He shoots his bow. He shoots long range with his gun

He's spot and socks. So that style of hunting is where you find an animal with your binoculars and you go get them You don't wait for them to come to you although oftentimes that is a part of spot and stock where you call them in with like some antler clicking Uh-huh or like a or a call a bugle. Yeah Be it turkeys or coyotes and they actually he mentioned eating a coyote Joe did and that was the hunt that I was I was on that hunt with with Steve Oh, no shit when we ate a coyote. No way. What did that taste like? Oh, it tasted like liver mixed with goose.

So like oily? Oily, rich. Rich. And like that Oregon meat flavor, very coppery meat. Right. Yeah, I mean there's probably a good reason that people don't eat a lot of coyotes, because there are a lot of coyotes. It just doesn't sound tasty. I think that some of the weirdo people down in your neck of the woods might be eating them Oh, Tennessee folk

Yeah, yeah, they might. They might. I don't know. God that is nuts Well Yeah, is that the weirdest meat that you've eaten? Do you think? I'd have to say so. Yeah, that's gotta be the weirdest one. And I did it once. I don't need to do it again. No, don't. I wouldn't. They did talk about some interesting science that is being discovered that plants can change their chemical structure based on sounds and sense.

So somehow plants can hear and smell and then they will alter. So like if you play the sound of, I guess like a bunch of caterpillars or something near them, they don't wait for their leaves to be chomped on. They start changing the flavors of the leaves just if the sound is there. So-

So you're saying the vegans shouldn't eat plants either. Well, that brings up a question. It's like, how smart do we need to figure out plants are before they even feel bad about eating those. And- What's so bad now? As we bring out more and more of that research, are they gonna start denying it?

Because they're gonna feel too bad and realize they're gonna run out of things to eat. Steve was talking about how we do pick and choose our studies based on how much we identify with them. Yep, sure. Yeah, we don't. I mean, look, people eat octopus like nobody's business and they're super smart. Oh yeah, that's not for me. Tuttlefish, octopus, they're too smart. Too smart. And it's not even that good. I mean, maybe if they were tastier, but octopus is kind of weird tasting.

Yeah, I can eat other fried meats that don't taste like much and feel better about it. Fair enough. What about squid? Are they smart too? Or are they like the dumb ones? Well, cuddlefish are a squid, and they're about the smartest animal in the ocean.

Oh, damn. So no calamari, huh? What big fan? Well, you know, go ahead. Why not? Just go ahead. Even even tomatoes scream while we're picking them. Turns out do they? Yeah. OK. They scream on a subsonic level.

Well, thank God we can't hear hear it otherwise it'd be a nightmare everything we're eating is screaming at us Lovely bolognese loud though It's a bit of a loud bolognese Well, it is cool to hear how Joe basically changed up his whole life in his whole schedule once he first went hunting Steve talked about it. He's like, most people that came out with me for their first hunts enjoyed it, didn't regret it, but didn't necessarily make it their life moving forward.

And it is a big commitment. I mean, even if say you had loved it, unless you were still working for that show, it's not as easy to carve out that time and have the opportunity to go do it It does take a lot a lot of organizing and it's hard to get in with people that know what they're doing So you can learn I mean, right? It's it's really one of those lifelong journeys you know, it's like how people talk about surfing or

Jiu-jitsu like you've got to have been doing it since you were young and for decades in a lot of ways. And have mentors. Right. People that have enough patience to show you. And you know, it's reasonable that these hunters don't want to give up their spots. And they also don't want you sandbagging when you're coming out to a hunt because it's a big deal for them, too And it's probably really frustrating for 30 in the morning. Super early. No, you got and you and the correlation between

time in the woods Equal like this to your success. So like the more time you spend in the woods the more successful you might be so you might be Spending a week out there. Mm out there to get your particular animal. Yeah. And you're definitely fucking up your first bunch of shots. Which is a good kill for another, have you ever got anything? Well, okay, so big game hunting like deer and elk,

I've been three or four times and my people I've been with have gotten animals, but I have never gotten one of those. Okay. That's why I switched to bird hunting. Yeah. And I still do that to this day, almost every year, I go get a few birds in the waterways of New Mexico

and Arizona. Nice. What is that, pheasants? Ducks. Oh, ducks. Can pheasants? Ducks. Oh, ducks. Can you eat them then? Oh yeah. Eat those, well, I love them.

Ducks, nice. Yeah, they're great, they're great ducks. And the bonus part about going duck hunting is you're on a boat with your best buds and you can also fish. That's pretty good. It's called blasting and casting. Ooh, I like it.

It's a good time. It's called blasting and casting. Ooh, I like it. It's a good time. It's fun. But again, you know, I've been out bow hunting probably maybe five times in a few different states, New Mexico, Montana, did some deer in Virginia. What was it, West Virginia? I think it sounds more like it was in Virginia. What was it, West Virginia? It sounds more like it was West Virginia.

Anyway, and I've been on an animal and had a shot only twice, but it wasn't great. It was like a little bit behind stuff and I didn't take the shot. It just wasn't perfect. And that was after a lot of work, you know? And I've gone many times, you know, I say many, two or three times where there was basically,

didn't even get close to anything, you know? It was like the rut was a little bit off, the temperature was up, we weren't hearing noises at the right times, you know, the people I was with were experienced, but just nothing came up. And that's so much how it goes. It's so hard. And I think this perception that hunting is easy or unfair or

cruel or, you know, it's just like shooting fish in a barrel type of thinking is just, it's not true from what I've seen, especially with bows. Bows are really very difficult I mean, you know 10% success rate on a gunner is a good average that they were saying right Yeah, I would believe it You know and even when when cam is telling his story of his first hunt when he was you know had a great shot on a buck and story of his first hunt when he was, you know, had a great shot on a buck and completely messed it.

Well, it didn't even get close. Wasn't he didn't have a clue. And, you know, one day he became one of the greatest hunters that's ever lived in the modern period. And still miles away, like it's so hard to train for that one moment where it all counts, especially if you've been out there for a week, you know, hiking every day, putting it all in. You're probably pretty exhausted, desperate for something.

And now you're on it and all of it comes down to that one moment, you even fart wrong. It's over. All of it comes down to that one moment, even thought wrong. It's over. It's like, you have to be ready to pull the trigger. And that's something that I've learned in my life is about hunting and it parallels to jujitsu. You have to be ready to kill. And it is not easy to kill this big, beautiful animal

or even a sweet little duck. Right. You have to know that it's so cute and beautiful in its natural environment. Oh, but then you're there to kill it. Right. But you got to be ready to kill it. Got to get ready. That second, second hesitation, it's gone. Yeah.

Or you've missed it. Mm hmm. Yeah. And you want it to be an ethical shot too. You can get too greedy and try and shoot too far and injure it and then it's just running around and then you just feel guilty forever Because you're like shit shouldn't it took that one. You just feel like an asshole I did I never wanted that. That's why I've always been cautious and You know it's resulted in zero shots and zero kills, but that's how it goes

You know, it's better than me just out there blasting arrows into the hillside, hoping for the best. I mean, that's not cool. When I get out there, we're gonna have to put that into our lives more. Yeah, I think we should. I think it's good for the soul.

It's good for the soul and it's a great thing to learn. And if you get good at it, then you can pass that knowledge on. That's a cool thing to do to teach your kids how to hunt. A little blood under the eye. Keep it going, yeah. Eat a raw heart. Some sort of pagan ceremony.

I don't know. Take away one. You and I, we're gonna get into whitetail hunting out there and maybe even a little bit of hog hunting. Ooh, yeah. Sounds like a little bit of hog hunting. Oh Yeah, sounds like there's too many hogs Is there there should be none and we have millions. Yeah, there could be a few but not too many

So let's get some let's do it Joe finished up the pod by saying he just recently went to Scotland and I guess they gave him an opportunity to hunt But no nothing with bow. They don't do any And I guess they gave him an opportunity to hunt but nothing with bow. They don't do any Bow hunting in the UK. It's not allowed. Nope. Just rifle and and really not that much either Not much hunting there. It really is It really is it's only for like the wealthy people out there. It's one of those rich You know posh things to do Go out their leather elbow patches and their tweed hunting coats and whatnot.

That's it. Well, they do the fox hunting in the red coats on the horses with the dogs. People don't like that. Not found. I don't think I don't think I like that either. It's pretty gruesome. Yeah, the dogs running in and just they just tear them apart. Right. It's not good. It's not good. And you can't even eat it. And so what there was one

I don't think they eat foxes now there's yeah, it's the incorrigible hunting the inedible Something like that. Well, they did it back in the day because the foxes would you know, obviously come on all the farmland and Fuck up all the chickens and whatever else they would do. So, you know, the wealthy land owners would, you know, at different times of the year go around and just keep the Fox numbers down. But now it's a whole different ballgame.

So it's just like a tradition they keep going that they keep doing that really is just not, not seen in a very favorable light. And I think for a good reason in a lot of ways. It's a whole different type of thing out there. But yeah. They don't have many, not a lot of biodiversity left in the UK as far as those type of things. They have their badgers which are highly protected.

Yup, swans protect our swans. We do protect our hedgehogs pretty serious about that I will punch a person in the face if they mess with my hedgehog. Yeah, come on. Go on. No hedgehogs in America. You know that Do they call them hedge pigs over there? No hedgehogs Hedgehogs none over here none over here. No. No have not taken off. They do they can't They can't but anyway what rabbit dogs that's about it for this week Loved it. Good old camhain Steve Rinella those guys legends Hopefully that would be cool if they came on in pairs like this and that was like it's whole a whole new like hunting category of Podcasts they could do I'd be down for that, that'd be great.

I would like more stories about when Rogan does get back from his hunts. I think it would be great for him to come on and just kind of do a breakdown of like how that week went. He doesn't really do it. I guess that's his private time, you know, but it's good information, good education for people that are into hunting

or want to get into it, but that would be a cool direction he could go, I think. I agree. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, thank you so much. As always, Pete, enjoyed it. We will talk to you folks next week. Have a good one. ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"]