Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 436 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bill Murray

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

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This might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. I've been out of sleep for 80 hours, so I'm beyond simple fatigue. The hallucinations have stopped, finally, thank God. But my adrenaline reserves are burning out and I'm staring straight into the face of a total psychotic freakout. What are you doing? I'm writing. Writing?

Yeah, I'm at my deadline pace too. I'm pouring it on now. Right on the edge. But I made a smart move checking into this place because, you know, in case I lose it, totally, you know, I know I'll be safe in the arms of the Sisters of Mercy huh oh that is Bill Murray playing Hunter S Thompson in what's that movie called Pete? Buffalo? Where the Buffaloes Roam. There we go what a legend. Excellent movie. So good right? Wild. What a legend. Excellent movie. So good, right? Wild.

But I think everything with Hunter S. Thompson is trippy. Right? Oh, totally. It just has to be. But it's like one of those movies where you watch it and you actually feel like you're on something. You're like, is this normal? Why?

Mm-hmm. What's going on here? Yeah. My brain. It's not, it's definitely not as trippy as fear and loathing but It's interesting how Johnny Depp and Bill Murray had their own take on the character and they are similar in a lot of ways Yeah, like the Bill Murray's a little more goofy vibe a little I think a little more psychedelic sometimes in

Hunter S Thompson's kind of like whacked out has like he's like bug-eyed and Scrambled around a lot more. Yeah, ultimately they had you could definitely tell that the same guy Well, they made Johnny Depp look far worse. I think Yeah, shaved head and yeah. It was like the first time he looked really ugly in a movie. And you're like, that play. I really enjoyed how the intro, obviously Rogan is a big fan, who isn't?

Everyone loves Bill Murray. So many legendary roles, Ghostbusters. I mean, the list goes on. But Rogan was just like, yeah, so great to have you here. Been a fan forever. Kind of shocking that you're here, you know? And then Bill was just like, yeah, a bit different for me. Had no idea who you were. And it's like, what level of legend is that?

You're Joe, is that right? I mean, it makes sense that, you know, he's just interested in different shit and he's not connected to the world of like, I don't know, following this type of stuff that would introduce him to Joe. But, uh, he did give a bit of a preference to, not a preference, but like reference to the fact that some of his friends were excited that he was going on and others kind of warned him because of that,

you know, whole space out there that's like, Joe Rogan, far right exclamation points. Like. Right, which doesn't make sense to me, but I think that Joe did a really good job of putting himself at ease and putting Bill at ease. Yeah, I think so. He did a good job.

Yeah. It's not Faraday's label of that. Uh-uh. Hey, I don't think, once Bill started talking, they got into it. Once he knew about Rogan's kind of obsession with Hunter S. Thompson, he'd already seen the artwork in the hallway, he was all about it, you know. And he wasn't even bothered when he was like, oh, you filmed this too? He's just like, let's go.

Let's get on with it. He had no idea about Joe's go. Let's get let's get on with it He had no idea about them about Joe's setup. Oh, I don't even know if he's a podcast that I can think of Probably not. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was like he was just concerned about the time Like like oh this we could just talk for hours. Is that right? Yeah, he was he was had to be kind of goaded into going into depth about a few things because they had the time for it Mm-hmm. He didn't he didn't remember that he didn't know that it was long form Podcasts. Well, it's like the only time you would have had like he would have had that in the past is just you know Like an actual reporter talking to him and like spending a good amount of time with him getting information

reporter talking to him and like spending a good amount of time with him getting information. The nice thing about this setup though is like you can't take it out of context. It's like it's not like somebody is writing a story on it or a summary. Everything that you're saying is in there. I guess Howard Stern was in those radio shows of the of the 90s and early 2000s were kind of like that. Oh 100% yeah. A little longer form. In so many ways Howard Stern started this type of thing for sure. Yeah which was ironic because he hated podcasting I think still does. Well he's a he's a wackadoodle that he's been insulated from anybody real for so long. Yeah, he's we're not gonna go into that. We're talking a little off the reservation. I mean, jumping into

meeting Hunter s Thompson, that was a cool story. So what was he in Aspen? And yes And tied to a lawn chair. He had to do like some escape act. And they didn't know each other. Like that's how they bump into each other and become friends. Like wow. Just a couple of wizards at a bar. And he's like, Bill's like, I could get out of that.

I could do an escape act. So he gets tied to a chair with socks. Right. And he can't get, and he's almost drowns until Hunter picks him up. And says, there you go. And yeah, no idea who they were. It just, just imagine the conversations that they would have got into.

Like getting to know each other, like it's kind of like the height of both of their fame for what they're known for and good at. And just that connection must have been pretty special to like be a part of to see. Yeah, I think that Hunter was about what, 10 years older than Bill Murray, 15, I think 10 or so. And he's maybe not, but he was famous in the I think late 60s for his work on. Exposes as a journalist, really like the Hells Angels. he did a book about the Hells Angels that I read, it was pretty cool, pretty fascinating. Nice.

In there deep with them, he like rode with them, partied with them. Oh yeah, didn't they wanna like kill him at the end of it or something? They were mad at him for something. I think the book made him mad at him, but he like didn't like how they would smack their women around and They're really not a they were not a they're a bunch of meth heads. Mm-hmm

Yeah, well, that's not ideal is it? Let's be honest. Come on now Come on guys, but that's that's brave ass reporting I mean, I'm sure they show bike gangs sure bike gangs back then, you'd disappear in the, in the desert pretty quick if you got on their wrong sides. Oh yeah, they'll put you in a 55 gallon barrel and bury you in the desert or something. What did you think about the John Belushi stuff? I mean, I just always taken that as face value that Belushi loved to party, he's out there with who's the fucking Princess Leia lady from

Carrie Fisher. Yep and then Robin Williams and they're just like that that always was like the trio that they showed together and it's like they're just like that that always was like the trio that they showed together and it's like they're just parting up a storm and then it ends in Belushi's death and he was obviously a legend. So you're like, all right, well drugs got him, but Bill's like, he, he was a lightweight. This wasn't his thing. That's a tragedy.

And I had no idea about that until he said that so it's just another twisted narrative from somebody who's I guess the guy they were talking about that what is this Bob Woodward? Uh-huh. Is that the one? Yeah. He reported on Baluchi's death, he would totally lied. Basically, you know, I mean, he's also famous for doing a book on Nixon and it made Murray go, well, that's probably bullshit too. And discredited it in its own way. And you're like, wow, like that would be such a crazy narrative if, you know, some so-called

reporter and author just sold a lot of books saying something that it was before a time when anybody could be like, hey, that's bullshit. That's not how it was. It wasn't like fact checkers back then. So he would get drunk off of like three beers doesn't really sound like someone who's gonna be doing a lot of speedballing his first one he did he died yeah which you know you could believe happens to people I mean you know who knows speedball is that just

speed it's like amphetamine right or no I guess is it is it is what's injected right? So it's a mix of cocaine and Heroin oh really damn, okay, or Speedballing might just be doing cocaine and heroin at the same time, however you do it. Okay. We Google it. I don't know. I stay away from that one. I stay away from it. Yeah, one at a time, y'all.

But I think it's an important narrative, right?, he should be credited with like bringing a lot of great actors to SNL, to New York, bringing him from Chicago and also musicians, you know. And if he wasn't also the junkie that people kind of threw out there, it's like, he's up on the guy. Brought a lot of joy to the world. I don't even care if you're a junkie, you know, tweets their own, but it does take, it takes away from, it stains his probably good reputation And so it was a bad move. Yeah, if you made the blues brothers, you get a pass. That movie was great.

Ah, yeah, heck yeah. We should go as blues brothers for next Halloween. It's very good. Yeah, we should do that. I'll be John. All right, nice. I think that they still hold the record for the most cop cars destroyed in a car chase

Which is kind of a cool stat. I think Pretty good like 30 or hundreds. Uh-huh. They were just going over the bridge like the the Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, they like went over the They opened the bridge that opens for boats just After watching that movie. Be sick right? I knew Murray was a golfer. I'd seen some video of him doing like celebrity stuff.

You know and obviously he did Caddyshack which is just perfect. I didn't know his brother basically made that movie. I knew he had some famous brothers though, but that was cool to hear. And then, you know, Rogan geeked out over that. I mean, it's like a very iconic status. Like, if you're in Caddyshack, that's a big deal. That was just a legendary movie from back in the day. And then, yeah, what did he say? He was a he was a caddy before doing anything. That's what he did.

I think he said he's like a 11 or 12. He first got on a golf course work and then then you could if you caddied during the weekend on Sunday, you get to play on Monday. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah. Get out there. What a cool little way to get into the game.

I've never golfed. Have you ever golfed? A couple of times. I need to get, I need to give it a shot. There's a great video online. If you Google Bill Murray golf shot, he does like a blind putt, just looks the other way while like all the, for a celebrity thing, just nails it. I mean dude, he could have easily just missed that.

Like he just really was like, fuck it. If I pull this off, this would be cool. And nails it. It's so good. It's such his style and that's a lot of how he was in his movies too I mean especially go Ghostbusters just like arrogance but like pulls it off in a in a really interesting way which I enjoy very charming very very charming yeah so good Yeah. So good, dude. I like him in... I like him in......uh, Groundhog Day.

Oh, that movie was excellent. I think his dad's in that one too, as the, like, town... ...his, like, his dad is the... His real dad is the... ...Puck's Tony Phil Wrangler. He pulls him... He pulls him out of the... Are you sure that's not his older brother? Is that his brother? I think so. Yeah.

That's his brother, isn't it? Yeah, he was also on Christmas vacation. He's like the boss that gets kidnapped. And they bring him in at the end. Yeah, that's his bro. They don't look alike, do they? No. We talked a little bit about politics.

It sounds like Murray stays away from that quite a lot. There's a lot of election stress around his world. It was interesting then kind of debating that a little bit. And you know, Murray, like when they were talking about the homeless situation and the crisis and Joe brought up how people are not, you know, kind of incentivized to fix it because they get paid a lot. And Murray kind of wanted to make sense of it. And it was an interesting conversation, I thought, because it's a lot of the conversation

that you will have with somebody that is traditionally liberal, which I think they both are, when it comes to talking about that problem. You know? Like we want to kind of just outsource the idea that, hey, they're doing their best, you know, they're helping these people, they're figuring it out. That's a liberal state. And then, you know, obviously Rogan's talked to some people and some lawyers that have like kind of delved into this. So he has his take and yeah, it's interesting to watch people either question it or defend it or just try and make sense of it.

I think that's the problem when you are, you know, so apolitical or you don't want to stretch yourself out, you don't actually deep dive into something and really learn about it, then you can just, the people that tell you anything, you can believe anything unless you educate yourself a little bit about those issues. Like people are literally getting, becoming millionaires working for the homeless. Yeah. $400,000 a year salaries to house the homeless and guess what? The homeless aren't housed. Yeah, I saw this thing on Instagram the other day and to be fair to the post, most of the comments were kind of really giving shit to the person that made the post, but it's like one of those, what do they call themselves, like citizens somethings, but they like try

and call out cops when they're breaking rules, right? Which is a bold ass move, because that's going to piss off some cops. But it was a police captain in LA that does his job, plus overtime, plus like moonlighting or whatever, and he's making like 400 grand a year. That's what the president gets paid. Though saying that, you got to put it in perspective, like obviously overtime should be paid. If you're putting the work in, you know, you're allowed to do that, you know, nobody should have any gripe with that.

But yeah, it is kind of interesting when you start hearing about these government jobs that you know, they're generally pretty secure jobs. They have solid benefits, you know, pensions, retirements, these sorts of things, sometimes advantages to investing and getting loans because banks know that you have a secure job. And then you're also making quarter of a million plus. Yeah, as a taxpayer, like you, you definitely want that justified. And I think that's reasonable. He was like going to LGBTQ marches and just watching. He wasn't, you know, that's, that's

the problem. It was, he's just't, you know, that's the problem. He was just being... But to be fair though, a lot of, you know, often what patrol cops will do is just show up to make a presence. I mean, what are they supposed to do? Run around? They can't force arrest. They're just there to do it. But they have to be there. Um, maybe he wasn't offering that to everybody else and he was just taking the sweet assignments, something like that. Yeah.

Who knows? I mean, but this is why those oversights are good. I think this is why, you know, things that like baby doge stuff is up to is. Also kind of useful. Um, obviously there's a lot of energy around that right now. the doge stuff is up to is also kind of useful. Obviously there's a lot of energy around that right now. Dude, what do you make of the Tesla, like people attacking- Terrorism?

So I know someone in town here, they have a Cybertruck, and I went into the brewery, and there was only two cars in the parking lot. One was a cyber truck and there was only two guys inside. So it was one of them. And I go, Hey, who owns the cyber truck? And he turned around and looked at me in a way like I was about to call him something nasty. And I was like, Oh no, no, I'm not giving you a hard time like I think that truck is cool Actually, I know a lot of people think it sucks But I was like it's cool And then I followed up with have you been getting a lot of hate and he's like, oh dude

Like five six times a day is getting flipped off. Oh It's so dumb it is pretty dumb It really is pretty dumb. Like are you gonna get mad at me for buying my stuff at Walmart because Walmart's even doing even more bad things to our environment? Like this doesn't make much sense, does it? Nobody is getting mad. It's like, what is like, nobody's getting annoyed at people filling up with fuel at gas stations. And I don't think any of us are like super pro Exxon. Oh, no offense, Exxon,

you can sponsor the show anytime. I'll sell your petroleum. I get it. But you know, it's like, they've always, they've always kind of been seen as like You know the worst for the environment or the like, you know money hungry corporate elites That control governments. It's like no one's getting mad there. It just seems like a strange focus especially because it's so many liberals that own those vehicles. They did it for environmental reasons. They also got that tax credit that is an environmental incentive. And then someone draws a swastika on their

car that's probably also a liberal, even more left it's it's like the weirdest in fighting ever yeah it's it doesn't seem like it's helpful to anybody also it goes back to that thing like maybe you should figure out what this guy's doing that you say you hate so much i don't think you actually if you learn about the things he's up to, maybe you wouldn't actually think he's a bad guy. He's trying to, he's trying to save you money. Like, maybe that's hitter. Maybe that's not a...

No, but I mean, I think that the narrative there is that that's not true. I think the narrative there is that he's not doing it. He just has, you know, unreasonable access to everything. And he shouldn't be able to have this control just because he's a billionaire. My question there is how much control over everyone did Fauci have? And realistically, who the fuck was he? You know, he was giving advice to the president to shut everything down. Like that is a ridiculous amount of power.

And it's like, what are you bringing to the table? Like why? And yeah, that, yeah, that's a lot of power. Killed people. Right. Yeah. I don't know. That yeah, that that's literally killed people right Yeah, I don't know anyway, that was Maybe we'll get a free. Maybe we'll get a Tesla discounted rates here soon. They're gonna be cheap for they're coming They're going down in price resell value. That's how you get one if you want

They're pretty fast off that swastika. Yeah, I'll just buff it out. I meant to. Paint over it. What do you think of the early days of SNL and Bill Murray being on that? Did you watch a lot of the early days? I did with my dad. Yeah, we used to watch those. Okay. And that was because that was when him and his brother were watching it back in the 70s

and 80s, right? And it's hilarious. It's so good. It's good. It's goofy. Yeah They were they were taking big risks early on like they're a bit more careful now and and like a bit more politically aligned but yeah, so the first, I think the first like weekend update was Chevy Chase. He was like the big player. And he came over from like National Lampoons, which was I think just a magazine before or something.

So that was like mostly where the team was from. And somehow SNL grabbed most of that team. So there's like real conflict between those two. And yes, second season they bring Bill Murray in. And I think from what I remember, that's like why Chevy left eventually there was like a lot of tension between Bill Murray and and Chevy early on because like Bill was seen as like the new star so yeah, they were vying for that position and Chevy was I guess very very arrogant hard to work with kind of guy. That's what they say. Yeah

Chevy was a hard hard guy to work with kind of guy. That's what they say. Yeah Chevy was a hard part guy to work with Yeah, I've heard a lot of that from that college show. What is it community? Aha that you know, he was great on but supposedly yeah, just a real pain in the ass to to deal with There's a mess That's a good show, too. Yeah was It was geez. I guess uh Mr. Murray has a bunch of stuff coming up, doesn't he? Well, he's got new movies coming out. Yep, the new movie that they were talking about um some s and l characters on there

And yeah, he's still plugging away. I mean, how old is this guy right now? Gotta google that I'm gonna guess 67 Nah, all than that Older than that. I think what's my guess 75 74 74 still going strong. I mean, it's pretty old though. Got like

I don't know how many more years of like how long can you act until I guess uh what's his name um Clint Eastwood is acting like in his 90s I think yeah he's up there huh that guy's a savage your roles gotta pick the roles for sure yeah but uh yeah still knocking away some good comedies and has some classics in that dude. Undefeated classics. He's probably maybe other than, who else am I thinking of? Comedy wise? Yeah, yeah. Who else was big on SNL? Early on. Norm MacDonald. Yeah, but like, he didn't get that famously big.

He was just great. No. No. But yeah, he might be the most successfully famous person. Maybe Adam Sandler. I mean, there are some big names. But movie-wise, yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, I think Bill Murray's worth like $400 million. Maw, his movie roles.

Right. And I mean, Eddie Murphy, maybe Eddie, Eddie might be bigger, but he hasn't done anything for a while. He like, Eddie's taking a real break. He went to all family friendly stuff. Yeah, did some cheesy things. But you know, that's like Adam Sandler, they they pay you so much money to do those that kind of safe, like even when they're a flop, they're not because the family went and there's enough people there. You just got to kind of try and make the movies cheap. So you get, you make a lot of money.

I like it. I like Adam Sandler's movies except for like, you know, four out of five of them. Yeah, that's what he's four out of five. Little Nicky is good. Yeah. yeah, remember that one, uh-huh ridiculous Yeah, there's some great stuff out of SNL and this is where these amazing characters came from it bill Murray legend I hope he keeps making movies Unlikely we'll see him back on Rogan. That's just my hunch Not that he didn't like it, but you know, he did his thing. It's great that he came on. That's like a bucket list Rogan for me. So yeah, I'm glad that he's been on. And check it out. It's great. Cheers Pete, as always. Let's leave him

with this and we'll catch up with everyone next week. Love you guys.