Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 445 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Cody Tucker

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead. You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host host Adam Thorne.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. Two, one, go. Enjoy the show. Hey guys and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. This week my co-host is Peter. Hello, Peter. Greetings. Nice to have you. Nice to be here. And we are reviewing Cody Tucker. Good old Cody. He's got the name of a country singer. He really does. Kind of looks like one too. Just want to break some stuff down, some twangy chords coming out of that guy's mouth. He, I've been looking at his Instagram for a while. It's cool that Joe had him on.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I didn't know that he was on Joe's radar, but people are enjoying his little, I don't even know how to describe the segment. So I was trying to do it the other day and it's like- Half-ass history. Kind of, yeah. And it's like half-ass history kind of yeah He picked like a Napoleon fact that you didn't realize was one and it's you know, just some wild thing Like he loved beats and just would give it something Yeah, God bless the beats. Mm-hmm. But anyway funny guy interesting stuff I loved how he kind of opened up and was not promoting his podcast at all.
Starting point is 00:01:48 If anything, he was doing the opposite. He was like, yeah, don't listen to it. Joe just found that perfect. Like, this is so funny. Yeah, he was like, go ahead and, oh, you could skip it if you want. He's like, I mean, follow the Instagram, that's good, but the podcast. And, you know, and I've heard bits of his show. It's good.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It is good. He's just humble dude. So yeah, what was your, what was your feel of good old Cody? I like all the interesting facts and weird corners of history. So his stuff is right up my alley. I follow him.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It is cool, right? And I was interested here how he put that together and it sounds like quite a lot of work. Like he's scouring a lot, skimming a lot of information to come up with these little pieces. And it's nice that he does it, you know, kind of concisely. And they're really, they're slick looking too. Like his clips are, it looks so professional. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he does a good job. That's what's really nice today though, is, you know, back in the day, being a content creator was also being like, you know, a video wizard and a lot of other things, which, you know, combine that with actually having some talent and being interesting, there's a lot of pieces of play there. But now it can just be someone that really has some interesting stuff to say and so much of the software.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Um, it's, I mean, you can, you can film this stuff from your phone now and it looks legit, especially for like a podcast style. Right. Yeah. Just also for a couple of guys that don't need a lot of high resolution, that would work. Yeah. I think it is pretty high res though, the phones. Oh yeah, also his looks so slick, so I would just, you know, it lets the content shine through.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah. I love that they jumped over to Stephen King and, you know, his kind of impressive run of just writing a million billion, you know, bangers. Obviously Rogan's been a huge fan for a long time and... If they wanted to cancel Forrest Carter for writing the outlaw Josie Wales because he was a little too racist, why aren't they gonna cancel Stephen King for being a good buddy with Jeffrey Epstein? Ooh, good point. Come on, let's cancel that guy, probably. Well, you know, the problem is too many people hung out with Jeffrey, so if they go after
Starting point is 00:04:22 one of them, it's like, is everyone then going down? There's too many powerful people in that camp. I mean, they've been promising for how long they're going to release this stuff. I'm starting to not believe it. We're a hundred days into Trump's. They're not going to release it. They're not.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Because all that stuff is leveraged for the CIA slash Mossad, so this is an episode about that. No, true. We don't, we don't need to get into all that. Yeah. And Bill Gates is on that list too. I mean, you throw that many billions at something. It's, Oh, did you hear Elon's, Elon's shocker the other day where Bill Gates was giving him a hard time, I think about how he's fathered a bunch of children with a bunch of women.
Starting point is 00:05:04 No, it was because, uh, he, was because he his doge cuts might affect lives. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah So he turns around he goes well How can someone that went to Epstein Island? that many times lecture anyone on Childless protection like oh, that's a bun and a half. He's a wild animal, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Absolute wild animal. Have you read much Stephen King, by the way? Yes, I read it, Dreamcatcher. I'm gonna sit and list them all. Do it. No, I won't list them all. Take credit for it, they're long books. The Shining,
Starting point is 00:05:46 Thinner, is it about the Gypsy Curse? Okay, right. And he gets thin, he just wastes away. And then the Tower series, which is awesome. Towards the end, they start getting a little bit hard to follow. But his one-offs as well are pretty
Starting point is 00:06:07 great like Salem's Lot I think that one stands alone yeah that's a good one but I think it's about vampires they all kind of blur together for me the best one is The Shining obviously it's very good yeah very very good and it is interesting he didn't really care for that movie And it is interesting. He didn't really care for that movie, which is kind of wild but if it was your if it was like your best book or seen as and people changed anything and Supposedly Kubrick and him like were butting heads So Kubrick was like almost changing things on purpose to frustrate him. Yeah, which is a wild move his almost changing things on purpose to frustrate him. Yeah. Which is a wild move. His, the book was about one thing,
Starting point is 00:06:50 the madness and alcoholism and child abuse and the darkness of being alone in this huge haunted mansion too. Kubrick changed it to be about genocide of the Native American population. He changed it to being about subversive, also hidden homosexuality. That movie was vastly different than the book
Starting point is 00:07:17 because Kubrick was trying to say different stuff with it. Yeah, and a bunch of fake moon landing imagery, which is wild. Yeah, yeah, he was just on a different, and pulled it off, it's a great movie. You know, I think the best way to look at it is like see them as separate things that have a similar story. And they're both very enjoyable for that reason.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Well, Kubrick was a genius, was a genius rest of them. And, uh, also I would argue that Stephen King is a genius writer back when he was on the, uh, nose candy and the alcohol. Yeah. It's kind of wild, but that may have been his peak talking about those kind of addictive factors. Cody got into a bit of fast food. He's a cigarette guy. I mean, you know, uh, loves it. He's a, he's a little thicker, thicker
Starting point is 00:08:15 guy. I liked how Joe wasn't like, come to the gym with me, bro. Right. He didn't immediately try to recruit him. He was thinking about it. I could see the glimmer in his eye. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was definitely thinking about it. Well, they touched on Jelly Roll too. Losing like hundreds of pounds, which is fair play. Yeah. You know, he's so good.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He's such a great artist. A lot of fun. It's been so cool to see him interacting with this whole space of these comedians and others alike and Yeah, it's probably a good move when you're killing it and you becoming like literally a list you want to you want to keep that train a rolling and Yes, you know you mean jelly roll. Yeah, he was eating too many jelly rolls
Starting point is 00:09:07 Uh-huh, I think probably too many late night parties and lots of drinking no doubt. Why do I always go to that? I'm always thinking it's that it might be Could be it's hard to say but look it's fun to have fun, but definitely take care of yourself folks, okay? You know all right. All right. we'll do it. I guess. Right. How did they get onto Uber's kind of shady practices? I don't know what the turning point there was, but I worked for Uber for a while. You know, there were good things and bad things, you know, it's nice to work for yourself and
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Starting point is 00:13:31 and ladies getting these things. Oh yeah. And it's like, hey, what's your background check like buddy? Right. You know? I've even had drivers with like 5,000 drives and 4.8 stars that I'm like oh my gosh I'm afraid I'm afraid for myself here mm-hmm yeah don't bump me please well also you know the fact that you have to give up your rights to whatever arbitration means which is like not real court I guess you just have to agree to whatever arbitration means, which is like not real court, I guess. You just have to agree to whatever they come up with. Well, that, that is a court thing.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, like you agree to you getting it. I'm not sure if it's getting in the car or signing onto the app gets rid of your rights or is it becoming a driver gets rid of some of your rights? I think it's the driver thing. You know, I'm pretty sure that people that get in there, like you can sue Uber if it goes, if it takes a left turn. Wrong side of the tracks. No.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's pulled to a random warehouse. Mm-hmm. How about those driverless cars? Are they up there? No, what is it? What is the company called? Way like that's it way mo no they have them in They definitely have them in LA seen people use them out there. I saw him driving around Some of the biggest cities I mean
Starting point is 00:15:06 Boseman's not a very big place. They're not investing that up here. I mean, it's kind of hard to get new but sometimes It's just the only time I've seen I've seen those in Phoenix I was just the other week when I was getting back from a river trip And they are interesting. They drive they pull right into traffic. You're like, whoa Yeah, I mean also I've seen them on YouTube Where they're getting the windows kicked out in Chicago and stuff like people are setting fire to these things and throwing bricks through the windows And stuff yeah, that's so ridiculous like why Like what are you doing? They they don't have any answer for you for their own actions mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, not good, but I mean, it's the way of the future. It's going to be happening. They're only going to get better at doing it. And I get it. I get people's concerns when they're like, I know, I don't feel safe in there. I'm like, yeah, I don't either. But eventually you will.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And it'll work just fine. You know, the problem with those is you can't just gas out of a bad situation. Like in Chicago, my buddy's dad was picking me up You know the problem with those is you can't just gas out of a bad situation like In Chicago my buddy's dad was picking me up, and he said to his friends. This is highly second Second-rate information here, but He was his friend was getting in one and a homeless person threw a brick through their windshield Homeless person threw a brick through their windshield
Starting point is 00:16:30 Because he was I don't know down the wrong side of the tracks again, and so the car just stopped and wouldn't move So like you know in that situation you should probably Get out of there, so that's one of the problems. They don't have that discernment that a human could do Oh, yeah, get out open the door for a for granny. You know what I mean? Yeah, they don't do that He just registered an accident and then stopped Just stopped and let the guy almost guys shouted him for 20 minutes. Oh dear lord It was terrifying from what I heard. Yeah, I mean well that's gonna put put you off for sure What do you think about Elon's new like driverless car? That one that's... No no driver no way to drive it right? Yeah yeah you just get in it goes and
Starting point is 00:17:15 it can uber on its own and I don't know when that's coming out but the the idea behind it I mean I'm not I'm not. I'm not gonna be the first one to buy one, but I'll watch, see how the people do it. I don't know. I like the cars I can pop out dense with hammers and then start it with another battery on top of the other battery. Screwdriver.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, just get a spanner and. But yeah, so no thank you. screwdriver yeah just get a spanner and but yeah so no thank you yeah okay a part of me is like that sounds pretty good I mean I could do other stuff I'll read a book on the way to work we're drinkers so I don't I don't think it counts for that though. I wish it did. Are you sure? Nah, not yet. It might have been. I wasn't driving, I wasn't driving. I mean, technically, if there's not even a steering wheel or any pedals, how could they get you? You couldn't crash it, even if you tried.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah. Just over there taking a nap and I don't know. That's a good point. Oh yeah, I don't know what the laws behind that one will look like, but I'm interested to see. And ultimately I think it's all going that way. People are like, oh, we miss it. And yeah, kinda, but we're good at outsourcing stuff. And driving is a task. And if you can outsource that, just like anything else that we're capable of outsourcing stuff and driving is a task and if you can outsource that just like anything else that we're capable of outsourcing we're gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:18:50 We'll get it done. But I don't know. What about the Antarctic flat earth guys thing. They took those guys down there and they did the experiments to prove to them that it was round. It was still one guy that was like nah fake news slash sky evidence sky evidence clear. He wasn't going to believe it. But yeah, the others just saw the Sun spin around and they're like Oh, I guess that would make sense that it was that shape then. Well, I mean, I don't know I'm too dumb for that to make sense to me. So I'm still flat-earth in it.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh you are? Okay. Uh-huh. Back on it. Doubling down. I'm on it. I like that Pete in the face of even new evidence that suggests for sure it can't be real. You're like, that is the type of propaganda I don't fall for. It's just the kind of South Antarctica trickery that I was expecting down here. Why do you think they have all those treaties and stuff where you can't fly over that area and go down there?
Starting point is 00:20:04 What do you think's going on with that? It seems unnecessary you would have that. It's like, even if they say, oh, it's a safety thing, you know, it might be a shorter way to get places, but if you crash that, it's like, if you crash anywhere, it's gonna be bad. I don't believe that. The Bermuda Triangle, like, we should not be boating
Starting point is 00:20:24 and flying over that it's claiming lives and also the the Alaskan triangle claims tons of lives if you heard about that little spot up in no same thing people flying over these islands dis and appear dissing disappearing and uh dying crashing And uh, dying, crashing.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, that's probably because we got some secret bases down there. Dude, it sounds like something. Sounds like something's happening that they're just like, you can't go that way. That's where we always find the, maybe that's where they found all the UFOs that we've been reverse engineering. They're like digging them up. So they're like, no, you can't be down here. There's shit under the pyramids there's walls in South America that are 20,000 years before anybody thought they could build a wall there's stuff in the Antarctic that they don't want us to see it all connects somehow
Starting point is 00:21:19 mm-hmm man they're telling us the man I could go on about the Antarctic stuff the the the Perry Reese map. I think of 1600 compiled from other maps There were much older even BC right shows landmass there and rivers and mountains and it also Corresponds to it's actually very accurate as far as the stuff they now know about that place. It probably used to be a place where you could go.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And then the, probably the Younger Dryas impact had some, I think it's called Continental Drift or Shift and pushed it down where it is now, where it's inhospitable. And it doesn't snow down there. It snows like a tiny bit every year. It's very arid, but the snow that does land stays. Right. Okay. So it's just mostly that it's not really melting all that much? It doesn't melt. It blows around too when the wind gets up, but it's just mostly that it's not really melting all that much Doesn't know it blows around to when the wind gets what gets up, but it doesn't add much snow Yeah, I've been seeing this new meme going around. That's like one of the you know the Kind of climate
Starting point is 00:22:38 you know Conspiracy ones where it's like in the last two years there's actually been a lot of positive snowfall and it's expanded. But when I looked into it, it was like, yeah, but over the last 25 years, they've like lost a shitload of the ice. Sea ice, I think that pertains, I think I've seen some stuff,
Starting point is 00:23:00 but it was about the Arctic, the north of north. Oh, you might be right. But either or, both end. but it was about the Arctic, the north of north. Oh, you might be right. But, either or, both end. They're lying to us. Well, someone is because, you know, Al Gore was saying we'd be underwater for sure by now. And I'm like, you're either way off.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I Googled that too. And I say Google, I use like GROK or a chat or whatever, the AIs. And they were even saying actually the predictions have been pretty close to what the scientists have thought. And when I asked them to clarify, it was basically just came down to their like updating their predictions all the time, which isn't a very good prediction, right? Because let's say that I'm predicting where a golf ball is going to go after you swing it. Right. And I don't really know how good you are at golf, but I'm like, yeah, it's going to go 150 yards that way towards the green. And then you swipe it to the left,
Starting point is 00:24:05 and then I just go, oh, actually, it's gonna go left. So pretty good prediction. And it'd go over there somewhere, but I haven't seen it land yet, but I'm much closer than I was before. And then somebody says, yeah, Adam's pretty good at guessing stuff. He updates his predictions all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like guessing a number between 1 and 100 and I go 75 and you go no and I go ooh 50 and you're like closer and I'm like, I'm pretty good at guessing And then I just keep Updating that trick question. I missed the balls where it began But it does make you think right it's like, if you're saying we were gonna be massively underwater, and they weren't even thinking that we'd be producing as much CO2 as we are today, like, we've just got worse at it, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Like, the thing that they were trying to get us to not do, the whole world's doing it way more. And the rivers are not, this ocean is not flooding everything. Stuff is happening. I'm not trying to defend anything, but that one's a big one. I was like, to me, if I saw those rivers going up, right, if New York was like half underwater by now, I'd be recycling my cans at a mad rate and I'd be all behind it. The recycling of cans. How about it would do nothing. China is the guy right now and India are the they're doing it. Did you watch the trigonometry one where the the smaller guy
Starting point is 00:25:40 was being interviewed on I think maybe Piers Morgan, and he was talking to... Constantine. Yeah, he was talking to some environmental lady and they want to spend, I think, 1.5 trillion in the UK on reducing the carbon footprint. And we make up, well, the UK, 2% of global carbon emissions. And then he was trying to get her to say, well, what would that, even if we could do it a hundred percent and spend all that money, which is like 15 times our GDP. Lose those jobs.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Could we like, how much would that reduce the world's overall footprint? And what he was trying to get her to say is, you already work him at 2%, doesn't just bring it down 2%, it like adds in plus growth of the rest of the world doing it. It's like 0.5% of the total number while potentially bankrupting your entire country.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's like, is that the best use of, I love the energy behind it. I the idea that we want to save the environment and help things but it's like Would that be the best if you were making a budget for your house and your home and feeding your kids and taking care of your dog and your wife Would that be the best way to set your budget up? Probably not. No saving 2% and ruining your life? Yeah. So it's bigger fish to fry.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And that kind of climate activist immediately gets in their car or their EV, which are not greener. They rip the minerals out of the ground and perpetuate slavery in these countries. That's the real issue here. Microplastics, the production of single-use plastics, You know perpetuate slavery in these countries. That's the real issue here Microplastics the production of single-use plastics. Come on. That's the real issue here. Yeah, get that shit out of here It's getting into everyone my daughter is now 15 months old and I wonder how much plastic is in her brain
Starting point is 00:27:39 Already and we're I mean we try to be careful, but they fucking plastic everywhere dude You sip out a straw your I mean straws are fine better than paper straws because those things just disintegrate But if you sit out of a plastic straw you're getting a thousand micro plastics Like just with one sip, right? the production of glass Like beer beer bottles you you're getting microplastics from the production process. It's just, that's what we should be really worried about, investing billions into campaigns for people
Starting point is 00:28:13 to stop buying plastic and subsidizing companies that do make this stuff to make other stuff. Yeah, and it's hard to do. And it's kind of depressing that they have not come up with a way yet to Clean the plastics out of your body. They do not bloodletting Really just giving blood. I mean, that's all you can do at this point is Try not try to reduce your intake and then give give your blood away and let you myself make new blood
Starting point is 00:28:44 Are you just making this up or I mean it sounds logical. I read it. I read it on an Instagram. Oh Okay Where all the facts are but it could be I mean It's you're literally getting rid of your blood that has these things in there and you're making new that doesn't have them in there. Mm-hmm Don't you think that makes sense? Well, if your blood is the place that's storing most of the plastics that would make sense. It doesn't store the most because that's your like long-term structures I think that store most your poisons. Oh it's in there though. It's in there. Get rid of it. Get rid of your blood. That's the new science.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Get it out of there. Get it out. And then sadly, when you're giving it, it means you're giving it to someone else. So really all you're doing is just passing the plastic along. But they pull past their life after they, after they get better, they can give their own blood. I like the theory and it is the kind of thing that if I heard that in the future and they're like, we have peer reviewed things for this,
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'd be like, all right, yeah, it's reasonable. You know? He told you first. Doesn't sound like witchcraft. Dude, imagine if that turned out to be the best way. You would be my scientific go-to from now on. You only need to guess one thing really well like that and I'll be like, he does my surgeries from now on.
Starting point is 00:30:13 This is my medical professional, I'm like half drunk. Yeah. I'm like, what's this lump Pete? Touch it. You're always having me touch lumps. Always having me touch a lump here or there. They talk a little bit about the peanut allergy stuff and like just allergies in general.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And you know, we're starting to see that it's like, some of it seems to be that they, people are not exposing these children to these things. And you know, what's your take on that? Is it, is it kind of like a natural vaccine type thing? It's like, hey, have, try this, eat these things. And the more varied your diet, you know, I would imagine like herbs and spices and things given at the appropriate times probably helps with different types of allergens.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You know, you just kind of build up a resistance to it. I get, is that your histamines? Histemic? What system does that? Endochromatic, histemic? I think so. Yeah, that's what gets that all excited anyway. I think we need, we need a microscopic parasites that we get from
Starting point is 00:31:26 the dirt we eat as a baby to suppress our immune system enough so we can have a peanut sauce when we're 50. Right. Yeah. Science. You got to play outside kids. Science guy. Yeah. He had something like that. I mean I don't remember anybody being allergic to peanuts when we were real young. And it seems like we would know because it kills these kids real fast. Yeah, I think there's a threshold there where getting exposed to it is no longer helpful and then it kills you.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Oh, you gotta do it young. I know that B stings. You can have one and no problem. Two, a little more problem. Three, huge problem. Four, you're dead. And that's over the period of like years. Ooh, I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Not everybody can get this reaction, but you can definitely develop allergens or allergic responses to those things. Huh. And snake bites, like you might get bit by a black mamba and live but the next time you're gonna die My daughter got stung by a bee We went to take that's always a family Kid we went to do family photos of this
Starting point is 00:32:37 farm that Grows tulips so it was like beautiful. They had all the flowers and you know doing like family photos you know you got to do that stuff it was keys mine but anyway she got stung behind the ear and I was like oh shit when do we figure out if she's allergic to bees what do we need to do they were like well we do have an Epi pen on site I was like well go get it just in case it just in case. That's it. She was just gonna try it. She was fine. I think kids needed, she's like it's I'm her daddy's girl. She just got a call fight right now. Yeah. Yeah. We only cried for like a minute and then didn't even mess with it. I'm a hundred percent sure I'd be more upset about it than she was. Is she a ginger? Probably 50 percent. She's a day walker. She's a day walker. They feel no pain.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Gotta be something. She looks at you eats the bee. She would. I would not put that past her at all. I would not put that past there at all. Anyway, yeah, Cody Tucker. Interesting guy. I liked him a lot. I hope he comes back on or at least keeps doing his show and, you know, putting that kind of fun history out there. It's a great IG page to follow. It's at the Cody Tucker, if you want to check that out and Yeah, good conversation. He was cool. He was chill. No ego fun. I think he's gonna do well in the Kind of influence of podcast the space I want to see him on a few other people everybody goes on Theo and Kind of does the circuit. I don't know if that's that's really a direction that he's gonna pick up on but I'd like to see it really direction that he's gonna pick up on but I'd like to see it. Yeah he's everything he's into is the stuff that I was geeking out as with from 13 till now
Starting point is 00:34:31 so right I like everything he's from East Texas too so nice he's a swamp boy there we go the swamp folk special special characters and Yeah, soon enough Pete you be you be up here doing these in person You're doing some live in person sessions making the move. Yep, pretty exciting I finally got the ankle monitor off baby. Oh, that's all it took Whole it took. I love it. All right guys. Well, thank you so much for listening Pete as always pleasure and Yeah, check the show out and we will talk to you next time later

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