Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 447 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Bono
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We are reviewing good old Bono today. Bono on Rogan. I mean I can't say I'm surprised, you know, he can
definitely get those types of guests, but yeah that's a big one in the world
of music. Joined with me today is good old Pete. Pete's back and he's live in the
studio. Howdy Adam. How you doing bud? Doing great. Nice. Glad to be here. I know. What do you think so far?
Good old Montana. It's nice. Sunny. It's sunny today. Yep. Won't last long. Be snow real soon. Okay. I got a lot of coats.
I'm ready for it. Hang in there. Alright. Yeah, so like generally what is your feel of
Bono and you two? Because I will preface this as I asked a bunch of people
that I know that are into music, really enjoy it,
different genres, all the rest of it.
And I was like, oh, this seems like a no brainer for them.
And I didn't realize there was like Bono hate out there.
Yeah, he's pretty much the. Original virtue, like original
virtue signal, similar guy.
Is that it?
Travel to Africa.
Getting people's business.
What is like? He's like, what is he?
The pope of.
The pope of outreach really
for the rock stars, OK,
with his lavender tinted shades.
Yeah, I didn't.
You know, I'm he's been a bit of, I didn't, you know,
he's been a bit of an activist type guy, you know,
and there was a big push in the 80s,
especially in England with like Live Aid
and helping different countries.
Like I wasn't against any of that stuff.
I thought that seemed nice.
Seems you should do.
We should be happy for people to get in there.
But I just wasn't aware
that people had these strong feelings
about it.
It's not like U2 shows up on my playlist all that much.
I think Bloody Sunday's on there somewhere within the range of,
you know, I usually have one or two songs from a band
that I really enjoy listening to because I just
like to mix it up, but that's as far as my
Feelings about you two ever went I was like they seem pretty good
You know, I'd probably go to a concert
Especially if someone gave me free tickets. Yeah, if there's any free tickets out there send them our way. Mm-hmm
I liked what what somebody said on the Jimmy Dore Show
about how he had,
and back in the day he had IRA members
like on stage and stuff.
So he's pretty controversial at times.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's Irish, so he's gonna be pro
taking care of the Irish.
Separatist?
Mm, so I get some of that.
Was his song, song Sunday Bloody Sunday?
Yeah.
That's about bombings, isn't it?
You know, I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was about something nasty that happened
at like a stadium somewhere.
It was pretty fucked up stuff.
Yeah, there were some terrible bombings in the Troubles, as they called them.
Troubles.
Hmm.
So, yeah, I mean, he's been in the mix, right?
But he's had a life.
Oh, yeah.
You know, he's been famous a long time.
That band has been like wildly famous.
Remember when you just got your first iPhone and automatically his, his album was his new
album was on there.
Yeah, that didn't do a lot for you too.
I don't think that's kind of how kind of how I came to be like,
well, what's this about?
Like who is he shilling?
He's a kind of a, seems like very corporate sell out
almost.
That seems like a very in your face thing, you know?
It was impossible to delete.
It was one thing to join up to MySpace and have,
who was the myspace guy Todd
Tom Tom yeah, everyone was friends with Tom right and that was but it wasn't like Tom was being annoying
It was just his face looking back at you. It wasn't like you know also his Tom's update for the day
It wasn't really like that no, but yeah to get a phone with an album on it is...
It's a bold move.
Well, it's kind of saying that like, oh, that it's such a good album, everyone will like
it.
And if it isn't that album, then it's going to get hammered.
And I don't even know which one of their albums it was, honestly, I didn't have an iPhone.
I tried to listen to it a few times,
and I tried to delete it a few times,
but it kept coming back.
Is that what it did?
It just kept coming back with the new updates
and all that's, we're just sure it went back up.
So what was the conclusion of that ultimately?
Did they remove it?
People must have been really annoyed.
No, I think that it just didn't really work
for iTunes partnership with, you know, backfired. It was like, no thanks, you too.
Yeah, you can't push songs down people's throats. Did they ever address it?
I've never heard it being addressed. Yeah, so there's some ego for sure and I saw him
I don't know what it was. It was it was like one of those kind of like unplugged deals But mostly an interview so I had the whole band
small room and it was maybe like
100 people big YouTube fans and they're just talking about their experiences, what they got up to, what's going on.
And there was this one point where Bono kind of made the
comparison that they were as big as the Beatles.
And even the audience was like,
easy. I mean, when,
when you're most bought in fans can't be on board with something,
you got to take a step back.
That's clearly, he clearly didn't read the room.
Hmm.
Hmm.
But look, I don't want to take anything away from, I mean, some of his anecdotes, hanging
out with Frank Sinatra, freaking Johnny Cash.
Um, I mean, there's just been some incredible stories that are undeniable.
I'm sure he's met everybody.
Right.
Elton John.
It seems like people like him.
Pavarotti, they were talking about a bunch.
Opera.
Opera.
Opera guy.
I wonder if he still wore the sunglasses when he even met those guys.
Always.
Just got to wear those off-color shades.
Do you think he was like just hiding that he was stoned all the time?
Massively high, probably.
Makes sense.
What's his guitar player?
The guy with the beanie all the time?
Oh, Edge.
The Edge.
Yeah.
He's actually a pretty respectable guitar player, honestly.
Oh, he's solid, dude.
He's kinda, I mean, Bono talked about it.
He's kind of like the,
that's where they get the musical ideas from really
He just kind of makes a riff and they're like right
we build the song around this kind of chorus or whatever because he has a very distinctive sound and
He does for that music it works. It works. Well a big sound especially later on there later in their
Career has the sound kind of a grew a lot more synth a lot of big sounds right like a lot of reverb
It is interesting how certain guitar players. I mean Jimi Hendrix is one for sure
You know just have their own sound it's like everybody's playing the same instrument
But somebody just rocks out and you're like, that's Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy turned it upside down,
played with his other hand,
and just blew everybody's mind.
Right.
Yeah.
LSD.
Dude, even Eric Clapton saw him once
and was like, I'm quitting the guitar.
I'm gonna quit.
It was like an extension of his body.
He's so good.
Wild.
Dude, wild.
But yeah, the edge is very, very good.
And, you know, the edge is very very good and
You know, they got kind of like real poppy around like the 2000s. They did have some big hits, you know that yeah Yeah, yeah
Along now if you know the words dude this South Park they made fun of that was
Absolutely incredible. I love how they portray you to itself park so good
So good just yeah, they definitely make him seem very pompous, huh?
He just gets into everything. He's always in over there in Africa
Which we should be wasn't this South Park episode about the biggest poop. It was the biggest poop videos number two
Yeah, he actually just literally is a pooh. He is a pooh. He used to be the biggest poop but he was number two. Yeah, he actually just literally is a poop
He is a poop. He used to be the biggest
So good, I'll put a link in the bio for you folks listening that have not seen that episode classic South Park. Mm-hmm
Yeah, I mean look
Everyone's on the chopping block for them potentially so you do any goofy shit. They're gonna get you they come up for you
They like they like people that realize themselves and not take themselves too too seriously. Yeah, I think so. I think so for sure
Bono
You know he talked about
The whole idea of what America was and how it kind of stands for
You know this message that it's more of an idea than a place.
It's like in the works, it's building, it helps other countries, it brings a lot of
aid to other countries.
All those things I agree with.
I think that that's great.
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You know, it's easy for different countries
to give the US a hard time and just say,
ah, you know, fuck those guys and all the rest of it.
But realistically, they bring a lot of aid to places,
a lot of safety to places.
Nothing's perfect, obviously,
but there's something special that can happen.
Also, with just the money that this country has, it's easy for America to just lean in and be like,
what's the problem? There we go. Right. That we can pay for it. Yeah. Right. And, you know,
you have to say when another country is like complaining about that, like you didn't do enough. Well, how much did you do?
Right like relax cowboy
However with the Doge stuff and
I guess what he was saying what locking up food in places and you talk about like all these people dying that seemed like a big
Statement to make 300,000 deaths.
Yeah, where are the receipts for that real quick?
You know?
Well, it's not good to stop aid.
That's for sure, I would say.
I definitely don't think that the,
like as you mentioned, like the rotting of all those
millions of pounds or thousands of pounds of food.
Yeah, right. They're gonna kick the door down and get in there there it's not
Why do we have to have a facility manned by?
Government employees when we could just open it up and let the civilians come and take it
Yeah, I didn't I didn't really get the whole they've lost the codes thing or whatever
This right. Yeah, that seemed like a they lost the codes. Come on. That's Africa. They
know how to bust into stuff.
Well, it just sounds like the type of talking points where they've read something. He's
in a massive echo chamber. It's all bad. That's the narrative. And, you know, throw throw
like a big number of deaths on there.
They did this with COVID, dude.
They were like, how dare you even not get vaccinated?
You'll kill people.
It's almost like one of, I'm very suspicious
when I hear that type of argument.
I don't want anyone to die, too, believe me.
But I'm also suspicious of like,
how are you sure then, buddy?
How are you sure?
The appeal to compassion is always number one for a certain demographic of people and
it's a leverage tool.
Oh, it's so compassionate.
It's hugely manipulative.
Emotional manipulation.
Right.
And it will make you feel bad.
I mean, unless you realize, oh wait, I think you are manipulating me with this.
Unless you discover the truth.
Yeah. And there could be there could be truth to it as well. I don't want to say that there isn't and not be, you know, not feel bad for those that suffered on this end. But it's exactly what Joe said. They threw the baby out of the bathwater.
But it's exactly what Joe said they threw the baby out with the bathwater. It's like this fraud in here
We have to put the brakes on everywhere to find the fraud, but I think what?
What a lot of people have been feeling is well put the brakes on the fraud
But let the rest of it go I
don't know if it's possible to do that though. You either allow the fraud to continue and whatever
aid or good is getting there or you stop it and then you really do some accounting and then you're like okay this is working, this isn't working, that's a flag, this is okay, let's keep everything
going. And I think Bono should know that as good as anybody,
he was in the Live Aid for Africa, right?
Yeah, but he wasn't like dishing out the meals.
They made $100 million, I think,
and it all went to African warlords.
It never got to, it never bought one meal for anybody.
Is that true?
It's true, it was intercepted.
It all never went to the people that needed it.
And this is the thing
it's like then technically aren't you just
Virtue signaling right even if it's accidental. It's like hey
I made all this money and I gave it to those people and they said that they would do good with it and
They didn't and now you just walk away going. Yeah, we raised this money. This is great
But like if it didn't do any of the things that you were trying to do, then yeah, not good. And careful criticizing
others. It's like, relax, dude. Trying to make sure it gets there. I do worry about
that with a lot of the charities that we hear about, because they're paying their CEOs, CFOs,
Billion or millions.
Just lots of money.
And it's like, how much of this is getting
to where it needs to go?
What was that?
Joe actually exposed some of that stuff recently
when he was showing the,
The graph of it, yeah.
Like 2% of the cancer association went to the kids,
something like that
That's really shocking that's shocking. Well, so this podcast works with
a charity called fight for the forgotten that Joe is always talking about Justin ran great guy and they do
Like housing for people in Africa and the pygmies and get them wells and but they have two sides of the way that the business is set up which is great
they have donors that cover all the administrative costs and then you can
give to the side where it just gets to the people so a hundred percent of it
goes so it's almost like they and I think that's beautiful brilliant it's a
beautiful structure get it right to them. Yeah.
And you know what?
Even if then some people working for them
are getting paid a lot of money, I
want to believe that those people are worth it
and really exceptionally good at their job.
And it's not coming out, it's not being pulled from the people
giving to that charity.
Those guys deserve to have a good salary.
Also, I can imagine it's pretty hard to set up a construction project in Africa.
Yeah, it's very complicated as hell.
You gotta have some people that know some people.
Yeah.
And they deserve to make some money.
Yeah, and what's really sad is when charities come in,
they do this whole money grab thing.
They build like a playground
and some other stuff because it looks good on paper, they can put on their brochures to get more money,
but then they run out of it and then all of a sudden they're just left with these buildings
and playground areas that need to be kind of reinvested in because stuff slowly breaks down.
You gotta maintain it. Kind of reinvested in because stuff slowly breaks down and
Then it becomes kind of dangerous and I saw that when I was teaching English in Sri Lanka
There was this playground that the company that brought us out there with it was called travelers They've gone. I think they were sued and they went bust now. They were were pretty shitty company, honestly
But they brought us out there and on their brochures
They were like look at this beautiful playground
Well, I was teaching a class at the school with that playground and I was like, oh cool
So I finished the teaching and I was like, yeah, where's the playground? They were like we don't go on it
I'm like, what do you mean? Because it like all rusted out just jacket pipes
Yeah, it's like rusty bits of metal that
have like snapped there's no maintenance for it and kids were getting injured on
there and they didn't have good like decent medical right services small
clinic probably and I'm like that's that's not how we should do things like
that really shocked me while I was doing that program. I was a very young man. Oh, dude
Was sad that's when I realized it was a lot of this is a money grab. Yeah compassion backfires
And it could happen in a big way
Yep, he was really throwing a lot of numbers out there on this in this one with pretty easily refutable by Joe
on this one with pretty easily refutable by Joe.
Yeah, it didn't take Joe a lot. I mean, he was like 50,000 tons of food
or rotting in warehouses.
I'm just like, what?
You've been weighing food, bro, before you got here?
That's a lot of food.
That's a lot of food. I hope it's not.
I also heard this other thing where
the people can grow food there. They definitely can.
We are dumping our surplus food on them, which is probably not the best kind, full of the
glyphosate and these dehydrating chemicals for harvesting.
So they get these random crops they don't even eat generally.
Now they have this, and they develop issues like we do.
They start developing obesity and heart disease and stuff.
But they don't need it.
But it isn't a lot of that like the old story
of teach a man to fish.
It's like, yeah, just giving them aid is just, I mean,
obviously do it right away, right? You got to set up their infrastructure and
their ability to like grow and do things. And maybe some of this is happening in
both ways. But it, you know, it does seem like we kind of pat ourselves on the
back more by just handing it out.
Right.
And it's not really empowering them at all.
Oftentimes local strongmen get these lump sum disbursements and then sell it.
Ugh.
There's another thing like, well, the USAID gives people aid to war-torn regions,
destabilized populations, but guess who did that?
The other part of USAID that destabilized their government
with the international initiative, I think it's called.
It's a part of it.
Yeah, it's like the stuff the CIA wouldn't do.
Yeah.
We deep stabilize them and then give them food.
It's like...
That's dirty stuff.
And they did not wanna talk about that much in the media.
They really held on to trying to make USAID seem like the greatest thing ever.
And all it does is save lives. And the, the CIA have written about it.
There's documents of them basically saying, Hey,
if we can't take this mission because we have to go in front of Congress
USA can do it and
It's like that's a big conversation dude. Is that really fucking happening them? Holy shit, and so they pay a shadowy person
This Mary may not be totally affiliated with our government that has no oversight
Then a billion dollars goes in that country
To who we don't know with our government that has no oversight, then a billion dollars goes in that country.
To who?
We don't know.
Also, I have a theory that they were funding
maybe some reverse engineering alien spacecraft stuff.
Oh, you think USAID is doing that?
That's how they got their money, potentially.
So they're not all bad then, is what you're saying.
Exactly.
They're doing some good stuff.
Exactly.
I'm all about reverse engineering alien technology.
If we get it, let's take a look at it.
Let's figure it out.
Let's be like, what's going on here?
Throw billions of dollars at it.
Let's figure this out.
I mean, it's taken a long time to get, what is it, GTA 6 out.
Let's speed that up.
Throw a billion at that?
Why not?
Throw a billion. They literally did did that game costs like that much
I guess it's gonna be great. You're gonna play it better be good. I know honestly. I've never played any of them
But I like how much people like it. Yeah, it turned and it also sounds insanely savage
It's not like teaching us how to be a good person. No, it's like beat a hooker
It's not like teaching us how to be a good person. No.
It's like beat a hooker, run your car through a building.
Get as many police on you as possible
and then try to kill them all.
That's, yeah.
Don't do that kids, don't do that.
No, don't do that.
But you know, in the game, if you win,
then it's the game, so you gotta win.
Well, good on you then I guess.
So what is the point of that game?
I don't wanna sound like the only loser in the world
that doesn't know what GTA is.
You just like wreck this open world,
collecting stuff or stealing cons?
You could play it by the books and you can,
you're probably a criminal that goes on criminal missions
and then maybe at some point you turned good
or you could probably, it's like a pick and choose
your adventure. Ah. They're actually really fun. So you could be, it's like a pick and choose your adventure.
Ah.
They're actually really fun.
So you could be like arresting people if you wanted to.
You know, I haven't played this one.
I don't really know anything about it.
Oh, we're the worst here to break this down.
It's also called Grand Theft Auto.
I think it's all criminally oriented.
It seems like it would be.
It's not called politely put the car back
where you found it.
It's like help the old lady cross the road seven.
Mm-hmm, seven.
It would be pretty nice.
Get that Bob O'Scough into her car.
I like it.
I like it.
All right, so Bono basically has come out
with this new documentary.
You going to watch it?
Be honest.
No.
Don't lie in my podcast. Good.
I might.
I won't. Probably.
Um...
I'd like getting preached to.
I feel like it's gonna be preachy.
He said it was funny.
Maybe it's funny. Joe liked it.
Oh, maybe I'll give it a watch.
I'll give it 15 minutes.
Yeah.
If it's free.
If it's free if it's free
How much if it's five bucks? I won't I won't see that mmm
Yeah, so he's done that and
You know
We'll see where this goes has he has he ever had like
Do you know who he dated or was married to was he like a big a big player back in the day probably hot
smoking hot smoke shows I
Mean he's the front man of YouTube, bro
But those they've had number one hits for like five decades or something. Maybe not that long close
I don't know
social media
Had some backlash after he came on people were getting I don't know Social media Had some backlash after he came on people were getting I don't know
They were like skipping the episode. There was a comment. What was a good comment? Oh
The first time I look forward to commercials. That was the best comment I saw
The first time I look forward to commercials. I mean, you know, I think recently
Especially after the last one we did with the Egyptian guy
Like people are kind of looking to hate on some of these episodes
I you know Joe got called out by Douglas Murray about like not putting two sides on you know
Or giving one side more. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that this is his attempt to on, you know, or giving one side more. Yeah, yeah.
Maybe that this is his attempt to put other, you know,
the other side on, not that they're on opposite sides.
Yeah, they weren't like bickering.
No.
I don't think Bono walked away from that going,
I mean, look, look, maybe he walks away
and some people highlight some of the online backlash
to him and then he's like, oh, okay,
maybe I won't go on there again.
But just their interactions on the show,
I'm like, these guys like each other, they're cool.
They're probably party.
Or at least as much as Joe does.
What was I gonna say?
Oh yeah, so is he the only guest recently
that has been almost pro USAID?
That I know of, yeah.
I think that's giving credence to the fact
that Joe's probably trying to honor that.
Maybe he did say, oh well, I have,
I should put more people on that have
completely opposite views from these other people.
Yeah, oh, 100% that's possible.
I'm glad that he did that.
And also, it's coming from a musician,
so it's not like some USAID.
Trust the experts, Adam.
Experts.
Trust the experts.
Oh, musicians?
Yeah.
They're experts.
Come on, he's Irish.
Yeah, solid tambourine player.
Actually, he's been married to Ali Houston
Since 1982 they got four kids solid. That's cool. Good for him. Yeah, that's cool. She's pretty cute good for him I respect keep it at Irish
Mm-hmm
Yeah, so plug in his Apple TV plus memoirs
stories of surrender and
You know, I'm sure it's all poetically emotional
fanciness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Fades out and out jokes. Um, you know, we're giving it a hard time.
Maybe it's good, but you know, still working with Apple. Yeah. You know,
they're investing $55 dollars a year into China
Take that way you want
Bono
Yeah, are they cool with throw out those numbers?
Are they yeah, why not like be transparent those guys are not the best let's say in the humanitarian
Department it's a good point
But if you have if you have degrees of separation
and then you're like yeah but I've raised all this money for Live Aid then
like like Bill Cosby paying for Martin Luther King's speakers. He did that? Well
that's what Chappelle said. Oh. So there we go. He rapes but he gives. Trying to get that get out of jail free card.
I guess it worked. He's free.
Well, that is shocking.
That's what they say anyway.
That is shocking.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I guess ultimately you could be like, well, it's about intention.
And but, you know, also if you're bashing on others, it's I don't know, dude.
Are you talking about the China thing?
Yeah, or just, just the whole thing with US8.
I mean, you know, he's saying, oh yeah, I did all this, but I take all this money from
Apple.
And then also this, you know, fraud organization that's trying to find American fraud is bad and it's like well
Who really is what's the intent is like are we to believe everybody is just trying to make tons of money or?
Seems like anyone trying to do good things a
Yeah, I'm jaded
Well, dude, we're talking about it earlier. The whole Elon and Trump breakup.
Ooh.
That's not going to work out well.
I wonder if somebody.
Is that we got that black eye?
Dude.
Did Trump give him one?
Got a black eye.
Elon, the quote unquote richest man in the world,
suddenly showed up with a black eye
Now I'm just throwing this out to you audience
How often have you accidentally walked into something or fallen over or know someone that has?
They got a black eye as opposed to being directly punched in your face. I
Never have I opposed to being directly punched in your face. I never have. I wobble around
quite a bit. I've wobbled around and I've done jits and you know smashed into some things and
the only black eyes I've ever had are people that punch me directly in the face. I would say that.
I'm sorry about that by the way. Yeah I forgive you Pete. Thank you. It was it was a rough
conversation and I shouldn't have said those things.. Yeah, I forgive you Pete. Thank you. It was a rough conversation
and I shouldn't have said those things.
Those are wild times.
Wild times, but you know, I don't know.
It's a fun thing to play around with, but.
How do you get a black eye?
Dude, remember when Bush got a black eye?
And he was like, oh, I was choking on a pretzel
and passed out.
And I'm like like who punched Bush?
Do you remember this?
I do, actually if you're curious everybody,
look up the Black Eye Club and you'll find
every Hollywood star has a black eye at some point.
You think it's like you get jumped in?
I think they have to, I don't know.
It's like, it's something, I could get,
my mind could go a lot of places
but I automatically think
Demonic rape gangs. Oh
Okay, no, I don't know
You have far QAnon on that one
There we go. Pete's back on the show. Pizza Kate. I'm Pete's
Yeah, I don't know man. I mean look the timing just seems weird. It's like shit's
hitting the fan. Those two are arguing. Like, who knows who they bring in? Who runs this
world? Who's more powerful than Elon? Dude, imagine someone sitting, like just literally
punching George Bush while he's president in the face. George can say nothing about it.
This is a hypothetical, but just imagine a reality
where there's like another level.
And you know, these presidents come in and they're like,
no, no, you don't understand.
I'm the powerful one.
I tell you.
And this guy just clocks them, bam.
Get them.
And it's like, what are you gonna do now?
I mean, the wake up call. The door call the door shut got the Secret Service do nothing yeah
Everyone around just stops everyone pauses, and they're just like don't do that again, and I'll see you in a month
Do you think say hi to your family? Do you think it has anything to do?
With every person in power in public figures paying homage to that big wall.
Which, oh the Jewish one? Yeah. Dude, look, there's definitely nations involved,
there's definitely, you know, higher powers of things, and I don't know.
I don't know what to think about it all.
Also, I just can't figure it out.
I'm like, who is the group?
And often it comes back to, oh, is it the Rockefellers
or the freaking Carnegie?
I'm just like, I don't know.
Why are they even that bothered about it?
It could be like, there's also like the Bilderbergs, which
is a secret organization, or what do you call it? Like, like,
you know, like the Freemasons.
All right.
They're like the, they're very wealthy. And then there's like
the trilateral core correlation or trilateral something or
other that Jimmy Carter was talked about.
And that's like East Asian shipping firms
that basically run the seas.
Right.
There's huge powerful people at play,
more powerful than our president.
Yeah, and I think probably what happens,
this is just a guess, but imagine back in the day
to rule the seas, you just had to have like armies.
Biggest guns.
Right, yeah, of course.
Best ships.
So nowadays doesn't work like that.
You're not an oil tanker with a cannon on,
but you have the backing of certain countries.
Having the backing of an American,
all of America is a good idea.
They got tons of dope ass ships.
Ordinance.
Can blow stuff up.
And then also, in order to keep that power, you're playing games to push people out.
Like, let's not pretend that all of this is like, fair game, right?
It's not fair. It's a power thing.
Dude, to put it in perspective,
in like the 1980s in England,
if you had an ice cream van,
you know, like the ice cream trucks with the music,
ding ding ding, and come get ice cream,
if you got on someone's turf,
it was straight up gang stuff.
That's awesome to see.
I mean, I'd love to see a couple of ice cream guys come out.
But hold on, we're talking fucking ice cream here.
Like you don't think that oil tankers,
full of tons of crude, ready to sell,
having to share a lane,
it's like, they're not fucking around, dude.
Access to different ports in different countries.
not fucking around, dude. Access to different ports in different countries.
Yeah.
And it pays to have our flyboys at the ready,
five minutes away from anywhere on the ocean.
Right.
That's not true.
I'm not sure what their response time is,
but they get there.
Yeah, but also this comes back to like,
okay, with all that, who are the ones pulling the strings? Like that's, that's like a lot of the questions that I honestly think Joe is like trying to get to most of the time.
closer these like wealthy like he can call you know Elon Zuckerberg yeah he can probably have a conversation with Trump you know what if he got Trump and
Elon on the pod together after this beef while Trump still president how massive
do you think that would be I think that if what
if the truth comes out about some of these Epstein files we'll be shook our
countries would be shaken we can't even look at it I want to see them of course
I'm a grown-up now as Tim Dillon says we're not gonna see it. No. We're not gonna see them. We're not seeing them. Grow up.
Yeah. Get over it. Think about something you can control. Yep.
Nice fantasy. Don't let your kids go to any crazy islands. Don't do that. Just skip Disney altogether if you can. Skip it.
I don't know, pay $25 for a hot dog. You crazy? No.
No.
The world's come, the world's, it's coming. Where are the aliens? Where are they?
Just drop the aliens. We're going to get to more of those podcasts real soon. But yeah,
but right now that's Bono. That's you too. If you're a fan, I get it. They've been big,
massive, you know, what'd you call call them rock stars? Rock stars, right?
For years, pop stars, poppy rocky stars.
Twats, no they're great, they're great.
And you know, also there's skeptical people
that aren't big fans.
Like I was surprised how many people I talked to
that were just like, I'm not doing that one.
That guy's annoying.
He just was never on my radar for being annoying.
I was like, seems fine.
I'd chat with him.
Have a chat.
Seems cool.
Anyway, check it out.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate you, Pete.
And we'll speak to you guys next time.
Cheers.
Bye.