Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 465 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Tim Dillon

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn. This might need to be the worst podcast. One, the best one of all time. Two, one. Go. Enjoy the show.

Hey, guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. It's an exciting time to be podcasting and also a bit of a sad one. Okay. shout out to Charlie Kirk and his family and just the whole awful thing I know he was a polarizing character I get it but

he was an example of what free speech is and I don't know it's upsetting it's upsetting to see that happen weird fucking times man it's scary it really is someone to get shot that easily it's it's crazy oh and it was heinous too like just so difficult to watch like my goodness social media terrible terrible i had a friend send me the the footage of it and i had no idea what he was sending me i was in a coffee shop and almost spit out my it was just crazy i i can't

believe that there's footage that exists everything that happens the political climate we're going into because of this, there's so much to unpack with his death. It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it. It really is. 100%. And, you know, today we are reviewing Tim Dillon's episode, 2375. It happened, you know, a week before this, but, you know, they're going into the same types of energies and conversations as you would get in a way from Charlie, but in Tim's style. So everyone knows Tim Dillon, stand-up comedian, host of the Tim Dillon show, which is absolutely hilarious most of the time. Does he have a new special?

I'm your mother. Yeah, he does. Yeah, the mother ship. It's on Netflix. I watched it. It was pretty good. Nice. It came out a few months ago.

Nice. Yeah. He's a great comedian. I'd love to see him live one day. A few shoutouts. We'd just like to say thank you to our patrons for, you know, support. the show. And we're actually going to have a tribute to Charlie Kirk that will be on there exclusively for Patreon's. It's a shorter episode. It's not really like a Rogan review thing.

So it's a little different. That's why we want to put it up on Patreon. But if you're interested, check it out. It's just one of the little benefits that you get for being over there. And we appreciate you guys. Yeah, what do you have going on? Brandon, you're doing some comedy, right? Yeah. So, you know, just want to build upon what you're saying with the Charlie Kirk episode. There's a lot we can totally talk about about that. Joe also reacted to it today as we're recording this on 9-11. Never forget, I guess. But it's just crazy. This has been a terrible month so far. But yeah, we'll do a full breakdown. We'll talk about Joe's whole role in this. But yeah, the 20th of this month, I will be at the. Salem Comedy Festival. So check me out there. I'll be doing stand-up comedy. I am a comedian. I've been on Kill Tony. I've lived in Austin. I've been to L.A. I'm a Boston comic. So check me out in Salem. It'll be a fun time. If you're wondering, you know, I guess I am the Antichrist. I am what Peter Thiel is talking about. Oh, in his four-part episode. Yeah, dude. Real quick, Brandon.

So it's Ted talk about me. It's Brandon Baddick. How would they find you? for they just look up the festival and figure out what shows you're on you can you can look up the salem comedy festival or just like follow me on instagram at brandon bat t i ck and you'll get all the information but there we go if you're over there we'll be a fun time we can share a beer joint you know a sacrifice we'll sacrifice to go together but all right let's talk about some of the reception this episode got because you know joe has been a bit of a controversial figure. We're seeing some fans begin to push back

and a lot of people are embracing him at the same time. So I want to talk about both the positives and negatives of this episode in terms of the reception. So I found that everyone on YouTube and Spotify absolutely fucking loved this. I believe the top comment on YouTube

was someone being like, this is my Super Bowl, which I feel like, Maybe touch grass, you know, because if this is the pinnacle of your year, but I'll be honest, it was a great episode. I really enjoyed it and everyone seemed to do it to enjoy it as well. A lot of people also really enjoyed Joe starting to push back on a lot of these tech guys on a lot of the Peter Thiel stuff and like acknowledging that billionaires could be using his platform, you know, to gain trust in people. And he's starting to realize that through Tim Dillon.

And it's what a lot of people are pointing out and they're really liking it. Now, when I'm talking about the negatives here, it's really just coming from, you know, some haters, but it's really the Reddit. The Reddit is just a cesspool of fucking hate.

And this is like in every community, like kill Tony also. I'm not sure if you've been on that Reddit, but it's like Jesus Christ. It's brutal. But a lot of the. problems people had with this episode is that people felt like Tim was just agreeing with Joe before Joe even finished making his point. Tim also seemed to repeat a lot of Joe's points back

to his face, which to be fair is just Tim's way of like acknowledging that he's paying attention. It's something I've noticed in a lot of Tim's appearances and just like podcast in general. Well, a lot of what he does because he has such an interesting way of like making a point and then making something silly, that he'd take something that is said to him and do his attempt of making it hilarious. Right. That's kind of a lot of what Tim does

when he's talking with people, which is, you know, I think why he's so good at just ranting on his own as well, because then it's his points and he makes them ridiculous. But it's why it also works for him to have the conversations as well. Yeah. exactly i agree a hundred percent um but i think the biggest issue was a lot of people were clowning on joe for the whole tim waltz thing uh which that ai video of him wearing the fuck trump shirt

and he's like slapping it his his like ass dude if he did that like it would be on the news it would be like he would he would be disowned by the entire administration yeah yeah i crazy. I was kind of surprised that Joe fell for that one. But, you know, you're getting so much information all the time. And, you know, he has to make 15 hours of content a week on podcasts. It's like someone sends you something. It's like he cannot be just going through it all. And I guess you could say he makes enough money. He could have a team of like fact checkers and researchers. But it would change the show so much. It would be. dog shit that he doesn't want to run a new show you know exactly he says you know the reason why

he knows all this information is because it's his job he just he's either at the mothership doing stand-up or he's just sitting down and like really just taking in information and if you're alive right now you know how much information there is in every like in government in politics alone it's if you were to just focus on that, it's still extremely overwhelming. Oh, yeah. Let alone, you know, scientific discoveries. It's a lot. It's a lot.

And with the amount of guests he has coming from all these different specialties, it makes sense why maybe there is some misinformation that slips through the cracks. But the issue that a lot of people did have is the fact that, you know, Jamie's like, yeah that's not that's not real and he's like yes it is fuck it it's real whatever yeah and i can see why people are upset with that but it's it's it's it's whatever tim waltz just it's whatever tim waltz just slapping his ass with the fuck trumpshare people aren't going to believe that shit but it looked pretty good i don't give a shit a i i'm getting it is pretty good it's a hilarious fucking video it's such a funny video i wish it was real too

yeah it does seem like something he would do. What a packed episode this was, man. Yeah, yeah. What are you want to start with? The Hitler's alleged escape? Should we work our way backwards? We could do that.

Yeah, that was. We can go any order you want. But that one. So that's what they pretty much ended with. The whole Hitler escaping to Argentina. Adam, do you believe that Hitler, escaped and went to

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I mean, he would have pissed off the whole world at that point. It's like, unless there's some agreement with everyone, like where the leaders just get to kind of do a thing, and they're like, all right, well, just make sure he doesn't have another army. But I can't imagine that that would make sense. It is a fun thing to think about, though. it really is getting imagine getting a taste of that drug of like potentially ruling the world and now you're living in like a hut in argentina like you can't come down from that yeah there's

there's not enough drugs in the world to calm you down from that i've see a lot of people making that claim of like hitler was too much of a egomaniac megalomaniac to not plan his escape like there's no way but i can argue the same thing on why he won it. He was too much of a egomaniac, megalomaniac to be like, oh, lose. Are you kidding me? We're going to win easily. I'm Hitler. This is Nazi Germany. We're going to rule the world. There's no need to have an escape plan. So I feel like there are both sides of the argument, but it's just, it's tough because there's so many breadcrumbs. You know, there's so many the bodies

I'm not sure if you know in 2009 U.S. researchers were presented with a jaw fragment of Hitler's skull and or just like a jaw fragment. Right.

And it was identified that it was a woman. So it wasn't even Hitler. But we U.S., apparently the U.S. has never had access to what I know.

of Hitler's like jawbone because that's the only way we know he died Right because the Russians The Russians got that first right They were the ones Right Yeah the Soviets Yep

And the only reason we knew he died Was because there was a jaw left And the dental records matched And even Hitler's dentists were like Yeah that's him He had very unique You know dental records His teeth were very fucked up

Like the rest of them but but at the same time you can look at that and be like well maybe uh his dentist you know were lying maybe there was a stand in maybe the dental records were fake maybe he he planned this really far and advanced i don't it's a lot of planning for someone who's determined that they're going to rule the world that's true you know it's a lot of planning for someone's like oh we got this in the bag but we got to spend a a lot of time, like, planning and escape. Yeah, because I feel like he would have got to Argentina.

He'd have some money, some gold, some whatever he has, just to, like, live a dope life, set up a bit of a compound. And then all of a sudden, he'd be right at it again, doing his yag and splagen, splagen, spleen, you know, just yelling at the rooftops. And unless he is like, all right, well, clearly I have to shave this mustache. That's rule number one. First thing you got to do. Grow my hair out long.

You know, there's no plastic surgery back then, so we can't really change the way it looks. You can't pull a Kelly Osborne. And people, oh, gee, bless her. They are some good doctors out there these days. Yeah. Wow. She went from Shane Gillis to freaking a Kardashian.

I don't know how that happens. But, yeah, you get to Argentina. And then it's like, I guess if he's that disciplined, he could just have the mindset. And he's like, yeah, I'm just like a retired German, you know, banana farmer or whatever they do out there. He's like, maybe that's it. But does not seem to line up. And I would imagine the Americans, the Russians, everyone were on to him. If anything was not the way that they said it went, it's that the Russians actually got him.

and took him yeah it's even Stalin told officials that you know there is a chance that hitler escaped wow like in the beginning he's on record saying that but i do believe that the the soviets planned for hitler's escape more than hitler did really i i think so because it's like the the airspace was totally dominated by soviets there's no way he could have like escaped a plane you know there was a pilot on record saying yeah i flew hitler back but it turned out to be bullshit there's no way they're just gonna like let like runways airports just like be like you know open dormant like just be open you know they were they were they probably had that fucking shit on on lockdown just like a horse and caught he's just like in the hay in the back

like old school escape assassin yeah he's like he's like holding on to the the underneath of like a truck or something. He's Indiana Jonesing it out of there. Like, ah, I'll catch you, bitches. Yeah, or he did a whole stormtrooper thing where you like swap the outfits. That's a good move. And you pretend you're a Soviet.

That is positive. I don't know. It's a very noticeable look Hitler had. Well, but it's undeniable that they did after the war have this like unusually large German kind of groups and towns in Argentina for whatever reason people escape there it's like you would have thought a few of them would have been like he's over there that's him yeah and there and there are people who like have said that in Argentina and it is a fact that hot like Nazis escape there

right it's a fact there's people who have said yeah Hitler had grandchildren in Argentina there pictures of him there there was this whole show called like hunting hitler or finding hitler yeah where it was on uh the history channel and it was just all this bullshit where it's like oh we got a picture of them cut to commercial you know and it was like all this stuff and then it's like not real and it's all bullshit um no children have come out and we're like yeah we're uh we're you know we're this is uh this is little hitler and i'm a little hitler and i'm a big Hitler, you know, there's been none of that shit. But I understand why there would be none of that shit. Like, if I was Hitler's kid, I'm not making a fucking Instagram account. No. Like,

I'm not, I'm not putting myself out. You know how many people would want to kill me? You'd be bad. It'd be bad. You would want to stay like, you know, evil by association. Imagine how much of a nightmare that would be if like your great grandfather did try to kill half the world. Then you're like, guys, guys, I'm just a plumber. I didn't ask for this. I feel terrible. I'm just a crypto guy. Oh, that's worse. Kill that guy. Kill that guy. Yeah, that's arguably worse. But I don't know, man. It's just, it's, I think he's dead. There was, there even in the jaw that you well, he's definitely dead now. He'd be like 150 years old. People were saying that,

you know, the people who believe he escaped believe that he died in 1965. That's like the date everyone's saying that he like officially died but I don't fucking think so. There was even cyanide like you can, for the cyanide capsule he took you can see the damage in his tooth when he

bit it. But yeah it's there's no fucking way. I thought he shot himself. No? He did cyanide. He did both. Yeah. Oh, he wanted to really make sure. Allegedly, you know, he wanted, yeah, he was a, he wanted to be extra dead. There's no way he's, just dead plus, please. Yes. Yeah.

I don't know, dude. Look, these, these conspiracies are fun. And I don't mean fun, like, it's fun to think that he survived. I don't know. And obviously, that would suck. But it's fun to just kind of play with, like, what do we really know? What are we really told? We know for sure we're not really told.

the whole truth and nothing but the truth we get fed whatever somebody wants us to think i would like to believe they keep it close to what the reality is but it's very curated it's more of like people love finding the answers of things you know and if you believe that hitler survived the personal power that must have of being like these people have no fucking clue i know i know true history you know that i must feel powerful oh yeah yeah well that's why people like conspiracies dude i mean i remember back in covid i lived in uh nashville and you know southern and the people that were like into qanon and they would look at other people that weren't like you are like you're not only beneath me but you haven't done your research you're dumb you're lost and then i remember

talking to this one lady and she was so sure about all that and i go okay and i go how do you know and there was always someone they knew that once was in the military and had high clearance and also would know that these things are true right and i go well who do you know and they're like oh this guy so it's like this old guy shows up at the bar that this lady knew and he yeah once was in the military he was an officer. And I'm like, okay, and I'm talking to him about it. And then it just turns out everything he knows was from fucking 4chan or Twitter anyway. And I'm like, well, why? He's like a Reddit mod. Yeah. I was like, why would, and he hadn't been in the military for like 40 years. So even though he once had clearance, it doesn't mean anything. Nobody's giving him an inside scoop. And I was like,

oh, all of this is bullshit. You guys are just loving the fact that you, can, I don't know, try to convince other people that you know something that no one else knows. Dude, it's so funny you bring that up because I'm into a lot of alien conspiracies and that's so many of them. They're like, dude, my, uh, my grandfather in the, in the 60s worked for the Pentagon and he was a janitor and he said that an alien blew him behind a McDonald's. it's it's fact it's fact at this point he told me he's fact it's like bullshit he's just like it's so bullshit some of these stories it's like it's like you've worked the front desk and you said that you know where we're you know back engineering technology to make you know yeah dildos that don't need batteries it's it's like crazy shit it's people who

like are not qualified saying that they know everything just because they like you know served in the military for like two years or something. You would just imagine though. It's like imagine if there was a completely different

reality like you and I knew it we saw it and it was like very clear to us the question always is how would you not be able to explain it and show other people? It just seems like that would be possible. you're like look at that it's like that

there's that we talked about this a few episodes ago but there was that that Roswell incident in Brazil where there was like an alien and shit and all these kids saw it and shit oh yeah and there was a whole like documentary about it and like it was just these adults be like yeah man I was a kid I saw a fucking alien I don't tell anybody you know because it's like

how do you like how do you process that and it's like if I told you you you know if i got on the phone with you and i was like adam i you won't fucking believe this shit i saw an alien uh the other day you know it was crazy you you would be like yeah brandon cool cool but you would probably be thinking damn he's taking too much ass he needs to fucking stop watching the eddie bravo episodes and just chill the fuck out i'm like i got i got to get rid of my producer dude he's losing it this guy's losing yeah he's been listening to too much rogan i I need to give him a vacation.

Exactly. Yeah. So it's like, it's like, you know, that's what's the craziest aspect about this is like the people who actually see this shit probably don't say shit about it. Because it's like, why would you want to, a lot of these people don't ask to see this. Dude, I wouldn't. They don't want to live their whole life as like this conspiracy crazy guy. I wouldn't give a fuck, dude.

If I saw what I thought was a UFO, then hopefully everyone just accepts me for who I am and, you know, maybe they'd call me a bit crazy, but I'm telling people exactly what I just saw. I would, yeah, immediately. Alien Adam. I would just be like, look, I saw that, this happened, that was weird, and I don't know, make of it what you won't want to. But, yeah, I saw something come out of a guy's chest. fucking door dash to handle my drink i blacked out it's like i don't know man it's yeah i you do have to question it if you go into something either on some substance or you're hammered it's reasonable to like to ask yourself did i really but if i'm like completely sober

and it's you know a thursday night and i'm driving home and something zips right in front next to my car and hovers and then fucks off. It's like, I'm not keeping that shit secret, even if people get mad at me. I'll be like, I don't know. I'm not a liar. I don't really know what it was, but that was weird. Yeah, it's the people who have all those abduction stories. And they're like, I don't want to believe it.

I think it's a dream. But why do I have this scar, you know, on my side now? Yeah. You know, it's crazy. Some of that shit is like really fucking creepy and crazy. that's like when it's the eyewitnesses who are like afraid and are just like who have no fucking running in any game right and they were like begged to come on and talk about this thing and they're like all just talk about it for a little bit that's when it's like i'm i'll pay attention you know yeah i felt like bald lazah was a bit like that i mean yeah you know supposedly rogan took him to dinner i mean supposedly it happened i believe right Rogan. Like, they went to dinner the night before. I think Lex was there, possibly. And he was very nervous. And he didn't like the idea of doing this. He was worried for his life. And he was

like, I don't know if this is a good move. We could pull out. Like, the feeling Rogan got is like he was, it was mostly Rogan trying to get him on more than anything else. And, you know, came on, did his thing. There were some things he still didn't tell Rogan on the air because he was like this could get me in real trouble but he told them privately and rogan's never told us so i get it you know but also rogan damn it write a book write a book at the end of your life and get get those little you know snippets out but do one final like on your deathbed do one final podcast and just tell us everything you were told off of her oh yeah you know by the mushroom guy by UFO experts, by people in government,

just one final send-off from the hospital. If all these UAP things are happening in a real, there is zero chance. Elon doesn't know every fucking thing you can imagine about it. I mean, especially with all his satellites. He's like scanning the whole earth all the time. You can use literally Wi-Fi to scan a room and like they use AI

and it like builds an image of where everyone is in the room by just reading the Wi-Fi, right? So that's a technology. So if he has, you know, 4,000 satellites around the planet scanning everything all the time and he also has one of the most powerful AI systems,

he knows if these things are flying around where they're coming from, something. And to think that him and Rogan haven't had a whiskey on a back porch somewhere, you know, looking over a river in Austin and chatted about it a bit, I'm like zero fucking chance. Those guys are tight, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Like imagine you find out aliens are real like in an ice bath. That'd be fucking insane. So speaking of, speaking of Elon, should we get into Peter Thiel?

Yeah, let's go. That was a whole chunk of the episode. And I just want to say that I'm surprised how much pushback there was on Palantir and Peter Thiel because of how close Peter Thiel is with Joe. And I think is very rooted in Joe's podcast. But I'd love to hear what you think about it and just like generally how you feel about Peter Thiel as well as Joe's connection. with him. It sounds like a nerd. Love to like shove him in a locker or some bullshit.

I'm just saying you do a full part freaking, you know, Ted talk on the Antichrist. It's like, what? And then hasn't he, wasn't he the guy that started PayPal with Elon? Yes. And he was the one that was like,

I don't know if it was the Google guy or him. I don't want to put words in his mouth. But didn't he say that he's like not pro-human? He's like pro-something else. Or was that... You are 100% talking about Peter Thiel, the transhumanism shit. Oh, there we go. Yeah, yeah.

Where Peter Thiel... I mean, look, these billionaires are all kind of odd, but he seems like a really odd one. Dude, the iceberg with him is just, it's, it runs so deep. He's saying, you know, it's funny because... all these people we're usually talking about on the podcast are very like, you know, they're not pro trans in any way. Peter Thiel, his whole opinion is that, you know, trans people aren't going far, further, you know, far enough.

They should be going further. Go further. You know, he, he wants to, he wants to replace body parts. He wants to, he wants to, um, be able to get like organs that are allegedly he's, he's putting 18 year old. blood into him he's uh nothing creepy about that blood from teenagers it's there's some crazy shit when it comes to peter teal it's it's really unsettling the fact that when you rearrange

peter teal the letters it spells out the lizard now i know this is the podcast for conspiracy theories so do whatever you want with that information but this dude palatier which is his company Oh, that sounds creepy as fuck. To the CIA, ICE, the NSA, and get this, the IDF. I'm the DMV. Yeah. And it makes me want to ingest THC. Well, I mean, you know, just like Tim was saying, this kind of does sound like the beginning of the social credit school.

I mean, they're already kind of doing that. It's like if you spoke out about Israel and your. traveling to the U.S. on a visa or whatever, they will look through your social media and ban you. And it's like, okay, guys, bit of a slippery slope here, I think. Like, once they have these systems that are like, what, writing algorithms about you in every way, how you shop, what you eat, what you wear, where you go, what you're doing, what you think, who you hang out with, what those people that you hang out with, criminal records are like. They're like, oh, he's a C plus for criminal activity, even though we haven't pinned him, but he's around people in that world, which means occasionally you do a bit of blow because you just, you know, probably a stand-up comedian in L.A.

And, you know, it's like by association, they, like, put you in this box. And I'm not saying these algorithms aren't accurate for whatever reason, but who is governing them. That's where it gets scary. it's like toe the line or we put you in this box yeah and it's so scary how short of a leash peter teal has on a lot of these people Elon musk can thank peter teal for his whole career uh when musk needed the money peter teal was his first investor you know was like you know is the reason space x exists um J.D. Vance, he pretty much was able to make J.D. Vance, the vice president, funded his whole campaign.

Really? Yes. It's really scary how many ties he has to the U.S. government. And, well, now Israel, you know, and ICE, he's getting people deported. There is rumors that, you know, there's all these things like due process and everything when it comes to ICE. which is a whole subject but the whole excuse if anyone says any bullshit about Israel that fuck it just deport them

what it's really scary what Palantir is capable of and where it could bring this country going forward as well as just the ties that he has to Rogan himself Rogan was saying they've gone to dinners

or the lunches and everything a lot of Rogan's guest have said that yeah my good friend peter teal yeah i used to work for peter teal it's like oh that's a little suspicious you know that we're now in this like era of the podcast we're getting all these tech guys yeah you know also last thing before i uh you know and then because this is turned into a rant here but peter teal owns part of spotify is that right so yes so how He either owns or was like a major investor. Is he like, he's not like Elon money though, right?

He's like tens of billions. Where's he on the list of money? I'm pretty sure he's, he's a lot. He's like Elon looks up to him. I'm pretty sure he has a lot more money than, yeah. I'm pretty confident. I'll have to look into it after, but I'm pretty confident he has a lot more wealth than Elon, especially now with the whole.

Wait, he has more money? Then, no, Elon's still rich as fuck, dude. I was looking to my Tesla stocks today, and I don't have to look into it. I don't have much, but it's up like 12, 14%. And I didn't sell the whole time he was like doing Doge and all the rest of it. And everyone was hating on Tesla and burning the things. I mean, yeah, it went, it went down then. But it's fine.

He's rich as fuck, dude. he's like 400 billion still let's look up yeah he's probably doing a lot better I don't know what I just assume knowing all this shit it's like when you have ties like when your company is ties to like 25 billion

he's worth so like a fucking fraction of Elon then but still a lot of money yeah you know and he's got his hands in you know a lot of pies arguably has like unlimited funding by the government right so

it's it's weird what are they trying to do with this Palantia thing what's like the goal that they just want to get to track everybody implemented for us to have safety yeah safety you know it's the same thing with the Patriot Act

that's what it kind of reminds me of like it's going to get implemented through like a Trojan horse and I think that is what ICE is right now so what it's going to be it's a database of you know So if I was to look you up, it'd have your medical records, it'd have your criminal history, your employment, right? Like everything, everything about you, which is kind of fucking terrifying.

Yeah. Yeah, especially if you can't dispute things because they could just add stuff to that list. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like people whose credit gets fucked because somebody buys a boat using their social security and then just leaves the debt with them. It's like great. Now I have to work with Expedia or whatever for four years to get that off. I mean, if we're talking about real profiles,

they can just add anything they want to somebody. It's really frightening, man. And yeah, I think Peter Thiel is, like I feel like I shouldn't even be talking about it on the, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to be gone next episode or something. well if um if anything i want to make something clear um i support peter teal and it's definitely brandon that does not so if i just if i could just make that listen man i support lizard people you know eat as many mealworms as you need to um i don't know man it's just it's a it's a mess it's a it's a big mess and yeah how do you feel about peter teal's connection with rogan though

Because they were talking about that a little bit, how Rogan was going to a few lunches from Peter Thiel, a few dinners. Well, you know, he's interested. He was on the podcast. He's interested in billionaires. You know, he has him in his circle. I mean, probably not a bad move if you're trying to, like, get into that world, right? You've got to have some allies. And does it mean because you're in the position of Rogan that everyone you go to dinner with means that's your best friend?

or is it just like, oh, this would be interesting. Let's go meet that person. I mean, I think about it. I live in Bozeman, Montana. It's a small place. I don't know who the mayor is. I don't know. I've never met, like, any of the local senators or whatever.

But if I was in a position where I could, yeah, I'd go to dinner with them. And who knows what kind of wacky individuals these guys might be or gals. It's like maybe they're all fine. But if you get like that open access, I mean, don't get me wrong, if you're on Epstein's plane 47 times, something's going on. But if you've hung out with a couple of these people for dinner a few times, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that says.

But it's kind of a surprising. I mean, I don't think that the overall conversations about Peter on Rogan have been all that positive. I think they kind of point to him being a bit, you know, of an odd ball, a bit of a weirder. Especially nowadays, for sure. Yeah, it's like seeing this pushback is really interesting. And even like Tim Dillon was saying that it's like, yeah, I don't go to any of his dinners because I, it's like, you know, he's like, I'm a comic. I can't become friends with this guy and then bash him the next day on my podcast. Right.

You know, it's like having that separation. But he kind of did that when he went to dinner with JD Van. which was hilarious. Yeah. He goes to dinner with JD. He's hammering him about the fucking Epstein list. JD doesn't say anything. It doesn't get in.

And then the next day, Tim is just smashing it on his podcast. So I don't know, man. I guess in a weird way, it's like the best time for jesters ever because they have podcasts now. And the kings are the billionaires. And these billionaires are coming

to these podcasters to have discussions or not just billionaires but the politicians like you know the director of the FBI the current president JD they know that's where you got to go I mean

fucking Trump went to speak to Theo knowing full well that this is a good move because of the reach that this jester has and I used to sit chatting with Theo at the comedy store. I mean,

normal guy that is in that position just trying to just be the jesters that they are. And they are noticing and Rogam is the first, but they're noticing that they need to dance around this carefully because you can get

far enough out there to the point that the king kills the jester. And I'm not tying that in with Charlie Kirk, but, you know, he just got zapped for speaking his way. And there's a reason Rogan has a lot of fucking security, right? Yeah. And that's a whole thing that when we talk about this whole Charlie Kirk thing, like Rogan's whole role in this because he's also, you know, someone who debates, he's also a right political figure. You know, he got Trump elected.

basically i believe yeah basically so it's like it makes sense he would also have a target on his head um yeah it's it's a dangerous time especially if you're like a comedian or if you're an influencer and you're trying to like ride a political wave it's fucking lawless which is interesting because you could be like as wacky and on the left as you want and i don't think that you have to start worrying about people trying to kill you which is interesting because the Republicans have all the guns. So why is it that way around? Why is it when you get a little bit Republican

or maybe a lot, then all of a sudden you need a shitload of security? It's fucking insane. It really is insane. It does. Because it's the people who are against guns are the ones, you know. But I don't know. Like when it comes to this Charlie Kirk thing, uh yeah we don't we don't know who the person is yeah we don't know but in general there's been like

there's people are psychos on both sides for sure oh for sure no doubt there are and it's it's it's a mess it's a humanity problem you know it's a culture problem uh i feel like it's uh it's not a this side versus that side no that's a we'll get into that for sure i want to i want to kind of finish up with uh because we getting close the end but i mean there's a million things in this, but I also, I want to shit on Gavin Newsom for a little bit because it's one of my favorite things to do.

He is a nerd and I don't trust him and I think he's an idiot. Well, he's probably not an idiot, but he just fucks a lot of stuff up in California and I don't trust him. And

yeah, just the fact that there's a good chance he's going to try and run. and I'm almost excited for it just to watch how he crashes and burns there's no fucking way that people are going to vote him in do you think I see him as a running candidate and I agree with Tim

where I think he's a lobbyist dream I see him as any kind of money offered to him he will sway whatever way as Tim called him an empty suit. I see that 100%. And that's why I'm afraid he's going to run.

Yep. I think he's terrible. I do. I think he sucks at running California. Dude, it was like, it was like five months ago or something, not even that long. He was like, oh, California is in a surplus.

We have a hundred billion extra dollars. No one's ever done that. It's all the greatest things. Unbelievable. We're the best. And then there's like this accounting era. And they're actually like $68 billion in the hole. And I'm like, dude, don't let this guy run the country.

Please. You have to move the period that way, Gavin. Yeah. What did he have is abacus upside down? Like who's doing, who's adding this shit up? That sounds like a big problem. Something something that I think would be, you know, that's talking. about and there was so much just too much to cover yeah for the time we have but like they also

really do talk about the future of america like even in the beginning of the podcast they're talking about the future of humanity where it's like are we going to merge with machines are we going to start replacing organs which is the whole how they got into the whole peter teal thing in the first place but they're kind of talking about how they kind of do believe that America is doomed. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are starting to think that way. And, you know, I would say take a step back from that because I'm sure that every generation has these moments once you get to a certain age, you know?

It's not like everyone gets political, but in your 20s, you don't give too much of a fuck about most of the stuff. I mean, I guess at the end of high school, I had like a revved up political thing that I was doing. and then it kind of died away and I didn't really care for a while because life is hard and I was becoming 30

and I had to be like what am I doing? Then you circle back, right? As soon as like the vice president's younger than me now I'm like, oh, I should pay attention. Hold on. And you just get rope back into this like propaganda freaking swirl washing machine of nonsense

and it does. It takes you on a journey of paranoia. not good i don't think it's good for your mental health i'm not saying ignorance is bliss but it's it can be yeah there's a lot of truth in that statement especially today with even that whole palantir conversation we had is like fuck that uh but yeah man like um it's it's fucking rough listen if if it 20 years I'm on a motorcycle in the desert with a shotgun with a gimp on my back

you know fuck it I'm gonna I'm gonna ride this shit out if the country becomes dystopian and I'm fighting for oil I don't give a shit you know I love you're mad mad max in it 100% but I do find it a little weird

and a little concerning no matter what side you're on with how much power that Joe and Tim Tim is getting pretty close to like actual power in the government which is fucking you know a cum pig like him having his power is insane but uh you know for the two of them to be talking about yeah we're fucked is a little concerning yeah a little concerning with how much they're backing the current administration right i mean i i don't know if it's changing

i think that after epstein list bullshit um rogan's like taking a bit of a step back. Tim, I don't know exactly where he's at. I think he's like a lifelong Republican period. Like, that's his thing. That's never changing. And, you know, overall, they're already both millionaires. I mean, what is Tim going to, like, Saudi and Qatar and a few other places and getting

paid, like, 300 grand to do some stand-up? Which is amazing because that's like a Muslim country and, you know, I'm I'm not saying that they, I don't know if those countries specifically stone or throw gays off the roof, but they do. He doesn't seem too worried about it. It's like, I guess they only throw some gays off the roof. If you're a funny guy, I guess you've got to pass. I think, isn't it like October 7? I hope to God he doesn't go there and they throw him off a roof. Imagine if it's just a ploy to get him there and throw him off a roof. that'd be that would be

one of the craziest ways for a comedian to die yeah he did a festival they just trick him in there for 400 grand and then they're like nah we're just going to catapult you off this roof actually we don't care

if that happens I'm getting the motorcycle McGimp for me it's like it's over we're going we're going for it isn't the festival on like October 7th or something or 6 I don't know. It's on a really funny date. Look it up. That's an unfortunate date for sure.

I'm pretty sure it's on October 7th. Poetic. Look it up and we're end it. We're end it at that. I'm on my phone. Nah, it doesn't matter. Look it up yourself, everybody. But yeah, dude, I mean, Tim, he's a great guest.

He's always funny. Funny-ass episode, too, like a really funny episode. It was. And like you said, they covered so much. I mean, we couldn't even get through it all. And definitely worth a listen. I mean, it's just entertaining stuff. But anyway, thank you, Brandon.

This is great. And thank you everyone for listening. Check out the Patreon. And go visit Brandon when he's doing his comedy. And, you know, yell stuff at him. Yeah. Just yell stuff. Yel stuff at him, you know, throws him holy water at him, you know.

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