Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 467 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Matthew McConaughey

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

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What up, Doc? Right to be back. It's great. All right, all right. And this week, Matthew McConaughey. you have to say that you have you have to start with that um yeah you sit down with rogan i think for the second time uh got a new book out um poems and prayers i think right is that what it's called yes it's just about that anyway and you know mccanay he is who he is he brings in like

a signature mix of soul wit texercise takes you know brings in some faith a bit of religion, slightly cynical of the world of AI, I would say. He's, I don't know, he's probably hearing a lot about it and potentially scared like all of us. But yeah, it was an interesting episode. And first off, I would like to say, thanks for join the Patreon. Get over to the Patreon, support us this week or possibly next week. We're going to do the elephant graveyard breakdown of kind of the Robinsphere stuff. And we're going to see what the reception is like on that and hopefully do quite a few more of those.

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What was your, what was your feel overall of this podcast, would you say? Yeah. So it's just like, like Matthew McConaughey, he's someone you would like run into like on a beach stone or something. Like that's kind of the vibe I got from him. And a lot of people agreed now talking about the like reception of the separate. episode just like comments alone from like Spotify YouTube it's a lot of people going rip Charlie Kirk a lot of people still talking about Charlie Kirk which is interesting since this episode was recorded before his death so people are are really prominent in you know uh talking about

and honoring Charlie Kirk still in the Rogan comments yeah I did see those yeah a lot of those a lot of those more than like anything about Matthew McConaughey which is funny right well I assume that they must have been talking about him quite a lot but that just wasn't the case obviously he's yeah he's not mentioned once and then it made me realize that this was recorded before yeah yeah that's it's it's I think I did read that somewhere that this was recorded before his death so um yeah so the only real criticism I I saw for this episode online was that Joe didn't ask him more about like his roles in film, his history, but I believe that was touched on when he was first on the Rogan

podcast in during COVID times because I know his first appearance was on Zoom and it's it's been so long since I've listened to that. Was it, was it really on Zoom? It was. So maybe he's had three, because he's definitely been in the studio before. Oh, has he? Okay. Yeah, I'm almost positive. Because the first time, the, the, if not, then the time before this, it was when Joe was still in the toaster, and it was like from Zoom, yeah. Really? Mm-hmm. If you look it up on YouTube. 1552, I see it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then. two weeks ago so maybe that is the only one i guess i didn't watch the video of it but i remember listened to it because he had his other book out which actually was really quite good it's a cool

like philosophy of of mcanaughey um i'll check it out he seems like a really insightful guy you know for sure he's definitely very thoughtful i loved you know when rogan was asking him like why did you even make this, right? Poems and prayers. It's like faith-filled, you know, supposedly quite funny poetry collection on love, life, belief, that type of thing. And it's like raw expression, you know, of journalism. He's been doing a lot of writing, a lot of escaping into nature, living in that, like, camper thing he had. And, and, you know, what a cool thing to do. I mean, it's easy to get wrapped up in the world of Hollywood and, and take it. yourself all too seriously. So I think that even though it gets a bit woo-woo sometimes,

it's like the best you can hopeful from an A-Lister that's been very famous for a long time. It's a bit of introspection and reflection and that type of thing. And yeah, he was saying, yeah, I was getting a bit bitter. You know, it's okay to be skeptical, but you've got to kind of stop on that line because after skeptical, you kind of lose faith. and then you get bitter and then you start being even angry and kind of having a negative outlook on what the future can bring and it's just not helpful when you get there you know yeah i i agree fully and something that i did take away from this podcast was there was just a lot of like yacht talk it just seemed like it's it's like you know they're talking about mansions as i'm like

cooking spaghettios with a spoon and a lighter you know it's like i just i feel so removed from the conversation you know and the thing is what i love about uh but there's just so many better sorry to interrupt but there's so many better ways to bring up the points that they were trying to make because they have the same examples from when they didn't have all this money right and even when they still had that money you can say things like yeah i just left my favorite beau in the tool shed that i just stopped going into because now i'm not doing the woodworking i was doing before so i missed this but to say your favorite chairs in your fifth bedroom down the hall on the west wing of your mansion is like

guys i i know your circles are wealthy and it's obvious you have a lot you just we can guess that you have a big house i i think it i've connected the dots feel great yeah we've connected the dots and the whole the painting comment dude is is is that yeah that's my favorite that was my favorite painting and i never i'm like oh god even to have favorite painting is a bit fucking fancy for me honestly i mean look i'd love to get to the my favorite painting stage in my life but um i'm just trying to pay the bills yeah yeah no i i i told and most listeners as well it's like i i do i do see how this episode was a little bit of a

turn off for some people because it starts out with that and then of course you have all the classic like rogan talking points of course we go into a i we're going into like it's it's it's very typical in a lot of these broken episodes and I can see why a lot of people might have been turned off by this because with Matthew McConaugh's life there's so much to explore and I feel like

we've talked about these same talking points with AI over and over and over and it's like I don't know I kind of want to know more about his worldview even though he does give it in terms of like what he believes about like AI

and governing and everything but I feel like there's there's more to there's so much more to talk about right rogan was very wealthy when he made the um podcast to style in 2009 he had all of the um fear factor money and he you know he's a multimillioner nothing compared to what he has today and definitely doesn't have the audience and the following and uh um the ability to kind of influence like he does now. But he was very wealthy. However, what he was was super down to earth.

And that's what made this show great. He'd come on and be brave enough to be like, yeah, I'll get fucking stoned right now. And talk about mushrooms and DNT and aliens and wacky shit. He was like, I don't care. Well, over the years, he has got so popular and so influential. and taking a lot of criticism at times. That definitely has an effect.

And, you know, also is like hobnobbing with presidents, billionaires, you know, he can straight up text message Zuckerberg and Elon if he wants to. You know, it's like it's just put him in a completely different universe. He's private jetting around. He's got Navy civil bodyguards. It's very difficult then. to stay grounded and to really have the types of conversations that most of his audience would really connect to.

But the thing is, he could still have that with more of the guests. It just does seem like two very wealthy, popular people are chatting with each other, which they are. That's what that is. However, you know, I just didn't feel that connected to it, honestly. I want to hear about the last time you shit your pants. That's funny. You know, be a bit, be ridiculous with it for a second, you know. I mean, sure, he did talk about taking psychedelic honey on the episode.

So that's fun. That's brave. Yeah. But at the same time, yeah, it got a little kind of, it was Yacht Talk, dude. You nailed it with that. We should name this episode Yacht Talk. Yacht Talk, yeah. Yacht talk.

If he ever renamed the podcast, yeah. this point because it's just like I feel like the podcast was made for him to like escape that world you know a fear factor it's like all right you're getting into that Hollywood bubble what if I just make a show where's just me and my friends shooting the shit having fun let's just get like Doug Stanhope on okay let's all do DMT where now it's it's it's I don't know it's it's kind of in talk show territory it really is like if you look at like the best example of that dude was when he had the rock on and it was all

the exact same talking points from Fallon from Kimmel and it was just like it was it was like a movie tour like a press yeah why not why not ask look I know he doesn't want to upset people too much but like

have a little bit of I don't give a fuck energy because he gives way more of a fuck now and look maybe there is a lot of value to that like you don't want to be seen as like the Howard Stern shock jock just making people mad it's going to close down a lot of your opportunity to have good guess on however you know throw out some wilder things like say to the rock all right dude what's your stack what kind of steroids are you on like we all know it's true

like can we just hit that like I don't know let him be a little bit uncomfortable I mean the guy's a billionaire he can take it even if you know wants to deny it and lie it's like it tells you something about the person but no none of that just like oh so cool so cool that we got to work out together which you know is actually pretty cool to work out of the rock i'm sure yeah it's just it's it's it's getting into joe's psychology in mind here because you could look at his interviews with politicians too the the real ones he pushes back on like Bernie for example are the ones where it's like he really doesn't have anything in the race for like Bernie's not doing shit he's not running he's just you know of course

you have Congress and everything but with Trump and like this whole movement Peter Thiel all these people that like have real power it's like he doesn't he he just likes being able like get food with them have a chat and not be their enemy you know so it's like yeah yeah It's, I kind of wish, I wish exactly what you're saying, where it's like you don't have to be Howard Stern, but there is like a really healthy middle ground, you know. Well, I would say this. Like, he may not be the richest man in the world, but in his own way, if you're talking about pure download numbers, he's the most influential to a particular group of people. and that group happens to be larger than anyone else's group. So the big pushback there is like, wow, whoever listens to Rogo is done, blah, blah, blah.

So then I'm pulling. It's a lot of people. And you wait till he makes his show for different languages using AI. And it opens up like the Spanish version, the German, the Russian, the whatever. I mean, it's going to go through the roof, for sure, because he's just going to connect to every. bro-ish guy on the planet to some degree

it'll be listenable even if they don't pay too much attention or listen to it every time but it just will and if he sees that and says yeah I don't have to kiss these rich people's asses all these celebrities all these

politicians you know I can just be exactly who I want to be in these interviews maybe this is who he wants to be but if he does then it just does feel like the show is changing a little bit. It does, yeah. And these string of guests at the same time,

like these past couple months, it's like there's no real episodes besides like that Cash Patel episode where it was like, holy shit. Like I got to get on this as soon as possible. Charlie Sheen had a little bit of that because it's like, oh my God, you know, Charlie Kirk. And there was the whole reaction. And also like Charlie Sheen never being on Rogan before that.

And it's just like really, he's just such an interesting character. And to hear him to hear him talk about his drug use and like acting career and and everything he went through was really interesting. But other than that, it's been like a lot of like the amount of times we've talked about AI on this podcast and the Epstein files. And like it's just it's getting. to the point where it's getting a bit repetitive you know of course there's a lot to enjoy for sure and i always love listening to these episodes but i i can't lie to myself and say that there's there's

nothing about these that are repetitive you know yeah and it been rogans always had a bit of the repetitive feel and i think in a lot of ways people find that comforting it's like often when you hang out like you don't stand up right yeah you know what open micers are like when they're getting together or comedians just to talk shit they do talk about a lot of the same stuff like week after week now hopefully they're making it interesting or funny um what i used to love is there was a lot of uh complainers in that space and that you can see where they were pulling their comedy from they're like i can't pay these bills when my girlfriend sucks or like they're just mad at everything and but it was very similar for particular people rogan has always

at that, you know, whether it's hunting, Bigfoot, aliens, you know, ancient, the pyramids, you name it, just gets right into that. It's just a little rough when it's like, I want to hear about McConaughey and what he's up to, and then we talk about AI for an hour. Yeah, that, that, like, you hit the nail on the head with that. Yeah. Because there are these guests that come on and they have so much like interesting history to them and it's like yeah that's cool like you know there's a lot to talk about with AI for sure especially how they're talking about AI governing and everything which is happening in Albania which oh yeah yeah I saw that and and there's there's so much to talk about because AI was it a public public something

minister like public relations minister something yeah it was I just saw it it was and people were like throwing shit they were so pissed like it was it was crazy it was I think that's so nuts I'm gonna have to dive into that rabbit hole after this episode but just think about that for a second right somebody programmed it right I don't know if that's the chat GPT version of something but it's like that's a different country and whoever made that software in a sense kind of controls that politician I mean, we like to think that they just make the software and then they give it to someone

and it's like, right, your job now is to be the minister of Albania and care about Albania and go. And then that's the, but I mean, how is it getting its answers? How, like, how easy would it, or difficult is it to, like, hack that? And then you've, like, hacked the mind of a politician. Yeah, you used to be able to, like, you know. hack like fucking like halo too now you can hack like countries like whole country's governments it's insane their idea is that they're gonna you know it's gonna be more um subjective yeah you know

maybe less like party line driven and also you can't bribe them because they don't need money but i'm like ah i got a feeling they're gonna find other ways to hack right into that thing I agree and it's just not it's not what governments should be doing at all especially this early in AI's development and even chat GPT gets stuff wrong all the time how long do you think that before we see AI robot cops that can arrest and potentially even like shoot the kill now is this like 50 years away or is it like 10, 20. I mean, these guesses are hard to do. I'm thinking, I'm thinking 70. I'm thinking 70 because it's like,

you're just trying to get it past after you're dead. Well, that, how nice would that be? Yeah, that you saw right through me. Yeah, you said a bitch. But it's just, I know that it's not a technology race with that. I think it's more of like, yeah, once it gets made you know how long that would take to like actually like get on the field like get on the ground because people would push back so hard on that it's like i like dude i've seen i

robot you know yeah but it really depends honestly it's all about the presentation and if if you like interact with one and it's like super helpful and courteous and you know it's like really good at saving people or just doing something that's way different than, you know, a cop. And who knows, maybe they're less scary. Like, cops sometimes for a lot of people are quite scary. They're quite formidable buff characters, especially in the U.S. They all seem ruined up, giant almost, most of the cops. And they just walk into an area and they've got to be real serious because, you know,

they deal with shit all day. So to have something just kind of like friendly, like, hey, I'm here to help and serve. what do you need help with and then they just also like taking care of back guys working 24 hours a day just the streets are like five times as safe on like the south side of chicago so like really quick you could actually stop to get behind it yeah yeah like there's until until it starts chasing after your car and it's you know armed has turned into a crow bar you know it's like it's it's it's it's all time will tell i i don't know how the public would perceive that because in pop culture like every movie about that is how it goes wrong you know

it's like the whole Jurassic park thing where we have like the woolly mammoth coming back the dire wolf and everyone's like no Jurassic park we can we let's not fucking do this again so I don't know I think it's one of those things where people saw I Robot people saw Terminator and they're like you know what let's just keep to the racist Boston police officers

you know you might be right yeah you might be right but it's it's hard to know but you know we're not also taking any of our morality from movies

like they're just all books even you know you think of like George Orwell's 1984 and, you know, the other bravely world book. And it's like, yeah, they're good to like bring up and be like, look, we're going towards this place with this legislation or this thing. But it just, I don't know if that forewarning, the hypothetical forewarning is all that powerful to stop it. I mean, I just saw a robot hand recently that was like,

moving like this like no problem spinning a pen lighting a lighter and they took the glove off and it was straight up the terminator hand it looked exactly the same i saw that dude that was insane there there is how long until they got the rest of the body the amount of guys being like how could i buy one like right now you know depends how strong it is yeah you don't want that thing ripping your dick off you know but He's 100%. But what's that? Who's that superhero from the Marvel one?

Bucky. He's a regular guy that just has one robot arm. Yeah. That's his whole thing. One arm. In fact, I don't know how he just doesn't get killed instantly by anyone, just because you've got a cool robot arm. But I think people would take strong arms and legs.

Like, in a second. Imagine that. It's like it will never. run out you just chop your arm off give you a way better one you literally can like bench 500 pounds well we're getting into some peter teal territory here you know some transhumanism territory you know well we we need to cover that he was brought up on this episode yeah um which people call peter teal rogan's handler you know with with in the past how much rogan has like kind of glazed him and people are speculating,

huh, it's weird how a lot of these random guests who come in are associates of Peter Thiel, you know? But it's nice to see Rogan kind of like, you know, make fun of him a little bit and not. He did. He did for sure. Yeah, for sure. Because a lot of people are like creating this narrative.

And to see Joe kind of break that is, is nice. Oh, I wonder if that's why he brought him up. just to kind of like make it clear that he's not fully in his pocket but he does appreciate who he is I mean honestly him you know they played that clip

and it was him being asked if the human writer should continue and he didn't answer right away and the rapport to push back really quickly I mean you know Robin was like look he likes to think he likes to think about these things and it's it makes sense however you need to answer that one real fast there's a lot of questions like that you need to answer

real first it's like pete say no first and then think about it you know it's like if someone's like do you think women are done and you take a long time to even like create your answer it almost suggests that you think that is true so you have to immediately start with no of course i don't then pause then take five minutes to think of your fancy billionaire answer and you clear it up for us yeah it's one thing like you know we talked about it with Elon how sometimes he'll take them a while to like come up with a answer because he's like messing with all these concepts in his head all these concepts in his head and you kind of hear him out loud going through it but these people have to learn to like answer with a one word question and then give their

whole analysis you know because if they're taking forever to just give it a yes or no answer it's like well what the fuck were you thinking right what do you really feel about this what what what caused you to hesitate because that's something where the the like you know the no answer is like really fucking troubling right it's not like it's not that it's not like a question you know do you like strawberry ice cream it's this is like yeah a really fucking serious question it's like oh the billionaires actually don't care if any of us survive and they might not even care if they survive that's the kind of answer that people were assuming he was giving yeah like yeah it's not important that we all live it's whatever comes next and i'll probably be there because i'm one of the billionaires

it comes across honestly in this day and age it is really scary to see like billionaires talking about that in the open because it makes you think what the fuck are they talking about behind closed doors you know and i i do want to touch on this uh you mentioned how joe maybe is talking about this to like kind of clear the air that he's not like so associated with peter teal tim dillon when tim dylan was last on we talked about this how Tim Dillon's like yeah I'm not fucking with Peter Teal because I want to be able to criticize him you know

and I think that might have inspired Rogan to push back a little bit and I think we're seeing it on this episode yeah yeah well they talked about him doing that satanic what was it the Antichrist wasn't satirite anti-christ like lecture talk it's like

wait what do we is this going to be on YouTube do we get to watch this what are you talking about? Like, what aren't you talking about? And then Duncan Trussell went to it. Yeah. It's, it's crazy man. Duncan Trussle. Oh, Duncan's

been taking some shit. Yeah. Oh, that's, hey, and to plug Patreon, we'll get into that whole thing, because that, it comes from elephant graveyard. Because elephant graveyard called out how he, like, Ward Rogan, like, hey, these fucking, these billionaire

people might take advantage of you to use your platform, and Rogan's like, well, Well, we'll just, we'll just let, why, let's just get high, dude. Yeah. We'll just hug go, man. Like, I'm just trying to talk to. Yeah. So, yeah, it's, it's a mess, man.

Like, it's weird times. Do you think that, like, to him, to Rogan, or to really anyone that would talk to a billionaire? Do you think it is like, you just get the sense that you're talking to, like, a king or an emperor? I mean, that's so wealthy. and so powerful do you think that it's almost like addictive because they can offer you anything in a split second and i bet they use that shit all the time to get whatever they want from people they'd be like yeah we'll fly you out you know i'll buy you a castle made of gold it's all good just come on out if you ever had blue lobster it's like anything and you're just like blown away

They'll, like, have this painting. It's a Picasso. Not a big deal. Just take it. It's rubbish. And then you put in a room and forget about it, you know? Oh, well, your fifth bedroom, mostly. Well, it was us.

You're just living in your car with a Picasso in the back? It's like on the ceiling. That's sick, right? You got your Tinder date next to you. You're like, ah, my phone's about to die. I need to plug it in. I don't have a sunroof. I have a Picasso roof.

fucking awesome yeah so of course AI Peter Thiel are talked about quite a lot well Peter Thiel's mentioned briefly but AI has talked about quite a lot also I thought that was really interesting was the whole Ten Commandments religion topic

yeah what did you think they were going with that it seemed like McConaughey was kind of into it Rogan was unsure and then they wanted to like splice it up which like dude no you don't like you just don't get to do that the religions will get mad yeah it's a really tricky area to like like especially in education religion education's so important when it comes to like if religion

if any of that is involved you know because then it contradicts other people's beliefs and it upsets families i don't know man i think every religion should be taught in store because religion is so prominent in humanity's history some of the I think the most bloodshed ever has been from religion so it's like it's it needs to be taught it needs to be taught I think Christianity paganism Judaism every like every Buddhism it should all be covered because it is interesting like it is interesting like it is interesting

stuff whatever you are if you're say you're the antichrist or whatever the fuck you're a billionaire satanic well it's still it's still interesting stuff no matter how much you you might not believe in some of these things like buddism's very interesting paganism paganism is very interesting as well and i think learning some of these religions is really good is really good let me ask you this like so back in the They have the Greeks. They have religion, right? Ed Zeus and all the gods, multiple gods.

And I assume it was different than the Roman version, because they had all their gods that were similar in nature. They were named after planets and all the rest of it. Like, one, I wonder what the differences between the two were, right, in general. But since nobody follows either of those anymore, who was the last guy to follow either? the very last guy he's like born he's like yeah i still pray to zeus and everyone's like what nerd like you're still doing that one it's like they literally had to be a last person

the fall of those dude there there probably still are like i feel like and and i'll say this here like i think there are a good amount of people who still like worship zeus really i i i truly do think that yeah well i i would imagine there's some that follow the viking religion because that's sounds fun dude there's those uh those like you know those christian praying to thore and just being like sick vikings that's badass yeah i mean pray to give me like a six pack or something i don't like yeah he rid of dude those like crystal pagan people like the the like the witches or whatever.

Or the witches, yeah. Like, Bill. For sure. Yeah. I'm like, I want to say like an hour of 20 from Salem. Maybe that's all it was.

Maybe it was just that those religions slowly turned into a different religion and we forgot now that those are connected, you know? It was just one long game of password. Who knows? I mean, think Rome is right in the middle of Italy. And that's the. Catholic Church, like the biggest sect of Christian religion, I think. And that's, so that would have taken over from the gods. And, you know, I'm sure to kind of ease the shock of it and also keep

your support up. You have to take on things from the previous religion areas that people appreciate. So maybe that's all that happens. It just slides it in. And they're like, well, all these different gods, that's too much to keep track off. we can control these people way better if we just have one god and then we just get him over that well it's interesting paganism is one of the i'm not paganism by the way just to clear just to establish that but uh it was starting to sound like you were a little bit that's i it really was getting that way maybe i i'm going to start doing uh talks on paganism or something but like peter teal does on the antichrist yeah pretty good um but i think it's a lot of bombfires it's just like a lot of bombfires so paganism

it's uh it's like one of the earliest religions and there's a god called the horn to god and the whole thing is that christianity took that and it was like it's say it's there's an evil devil satan thing it's underground if you do bad it's gonna pull you under and torture you for eternity and look these pagans they worship it and then they're like what this is just like the god of like nature and shit and they're like fucking burn them all and that's kind of what happens in a lot of cases where they just demonized it excellent excellent propaganda right that's the way to do it you know got to make got to make your um adversaries your enemy immediately that's that's that's that's really the move and i'm not trying to contradict religion

like anyone's religion no but it was just like some kind of horned creature it was literally called it's yeah it's like not even it doesn't even have a name it's just called like the horned god and i and like it's it's been a while since i've like looked into paganism but it was like it's i think it represents nature or something i'll have to look into it but yeah priests everyone's like starting christianity starting these like big religions saw that and they're like okay so you know how there's been like a drought it's these fucking people worshiping the devil as you can see horned god satan and they're like all right let's just fucking burn them fuck it so that's what pretty much happened i like i live uh a little over an hour from salem

so i've i was actually like like i think i promoted last episode the the salem comedy festival i was just yeah and i was like doing some tours of salem and was no shit learning about paganism the the whole witch trial that happened it was some interesting stuff but yeah like there's some really cool religions out there there are and did they talk about the potential that ergot got in the wheat and things the that psychedelic because that's what they think happened out there right so ergot is a lot like lSD and i think it grows on wheat interesting so it's like a fungus or something i'd have to look it up and um yeah if you consume it you trip so it was like the whole town was tripping and they were like well clearly

i'm tripping because all these women of witches so let's burn yeah they didn't cover that at all no no i that's probably that's probably like a reason for sure like the whole witch trial thing and the whole burning witches it's been around for fucking ever you know like not just salem but like there's so like medieval times there are so many instances So that could have been like an isolated incident for sure, you know. Yeah, true. But that makes a lot of sense. I'm glad we're past the burning stages of people.

That sounds completely unnecessary. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's a good step in human. It's definitely one of the better ones. Now, do you think they were talking about like implementing the Ten Commandments in school, I believe? Mm-hmm. Which is funny because Joe's like, yeah, I believe in them.

And then said, like, God damn it, 10 minutes later. which that's a big one right you can't use the lord's name in vain i believe i think so well maybe maybe he hasn't done his research on the whole 10 yet but he didn't read them off on the episode so he was he was getting caught up um and they're pretty straightforward like i i agree with like most of them some of them are a little like specific and like whatever like i did like yeah lord's name in vain and it's like only believe in one god it's like well yeah yeah it's it's i don't know i feel like it's solid but at the same time if you do implement that in schools the whole believe one god and the whole like don't use the lord's name in vain might contradict other religions of other kids who like their parents

brought them up one way and then school saying well who the fuck you know like someone who's like maybe into, I don't know, the, uh, like the Indian, you know, the aid arms, whatever. It's, it's like, oh, the Hindus. Yeah, Hind, thank you. Thank you. Hindus, yeah. Yeah, it's like that could upset a lot of people if it's like, yeah, just believe in one God. And, uh, well, here's, here's the problem, right? It's like there's one major motivation for religions always, which is to try and get everybody to be

religious, like your religion. Now, I don't actually, I think Judaism is not like that. They're not trying to convert people. They're just their own group and they want to support that group. And, you know, in a lot of ways, I actually think that that is kind of a better philosophy. It's like, represent yourself through your religion, you know, if like, I've known moments when I was in high school, they were super nice. They were really nice people. I'm like, you know what? You're representing your religion pretty well. It's not like I'm judging everyone based on everything they're doing, but like, you know, I would notice how polite they are and respectful of things. And that was just my experience.

Maybe people have terrible ones with Mormons, but I don't know. But this whole idea that, you know, you have to just spread the word. You know, it's one thing that like Mormons will go kind of door to door and they go on their missionary things. but when you start kind of like aggressively enforcing your ideas on people, that's going to be problematic. And when you're looking at something like a school, it's like, well, I guess it's kind of like a workplace. It's like a place to teach you things that you're going to use to get a job.

So it's reasonable to say that religion doesn't need to be in there, which is why we have that separation of church and state. And, you know, there's kids that are raised not religious at all. So what are they supposed to think when they go into these institutions and they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to teach you about these four religions and like these are all the tenants of them. Unless it's set up, is it kind of like the history of time or just like something you should know. Like taking a religious class is something we had to do in England growing up. And it taught us a lot about different religions.

And it was quite interesting. It's a lot like a history class. It kind of walks you through their timeline and then also what they think and what they believe in. But it's not like anyone teaching us was trying to indoctrinate us into that religion. I think that's cool. That obviously is problematic. I think that's really cool. I never got anything like that in the States.

It was never like, here's a class that's going to teach you about religion and all. the different religions. I think that's really well needed. But at the same time, I remember being a kid and like questioning God for the first time. And it's like, fuck, is it just like all darkness when we die? And it's like, it's really scary if you're a kid and you believe in these things. And then someone sits down and like, actually there's like 200 religions, you know, and then the kid's going, wait. So that's like a one out of 200 chance that I'm like, right. yeah you know and it might it might because being a kid it's like the what when you start questioning religion for the first time it's serious it's not like eh whatever fuck it

it really fucks you up because you live your whole life being like oh i guess i'll never really die right were you raised religious yeah catholic right yeah see i wasn't i was raised by atheists slash agnostics so I was really afraid of death early on when I was very very young I remember thinking that all my parents were hippies so they were always talking about like pollution as well like ozone layer and like you know car admissions and like they were just hippies like that so I thought everything was trying to kill me and when I die it's just black Now, I didn't really have the concept of like, no, it's more like when you're sleeping. You don't really remember.

I was just scared, like scared of that idea of death. And I don't know how that would change anything for me. Later, I did become a Catholic for my first wife that I married when I was married at 27, but when I was like 25, I started going through the process. You'd like go to church and they teach you the things. You go to the class and they baptize you, that whole thing. And we, I had, you know, it was important to do it to get married in a Catholic church, but I was into learning about it. I wasn't against it. So it's kind of like an odd age to like delve into something. It's usually the reverse happens. Yeah, I had the opposite experience almost than you did. But it does make me think about it. I mean, I have a 19 month old. And one day, she does ask me like, what happens when you die? It's like, I'm going to. Santa Claus the fuck out of her.

I'm going to say a guy comes and brings your presence and it's all amazing. It's like there's certain things you don't need to I mean also I don't know right so if I anything that I tell it could be equally as true. I have no idea what happens afterwards

but it doesn't mean if I don't raise her under a religion that I have to also create this like nightmare of just like you're buried in the ground and it all goes block it's like no that's it's gone forever yeah it's it's it is scary as fuck to a kid and i remember first questioning religion like really being freaked

out so i think if they do teach religion in school it should be like way later it should be way later because it's like yeah because you don't want the yeah i think that's going home being like wait what the fuck you know what is what is you know Buddhism and what is all this stuff what does that mean do they go to their own religion like it is so confusing and it's like just earth shattering to so many people when like they learn stuff like that and they're a kid and they think that oh every I remember being a kid in learning that there's people who don't believe in God and I'm like how do you not believe that like I couldn't comprehend that that you can't that

There's people that don't believe in God. You know, it's like, you know, you believe in God. Well, like, it would be the same thing with mathematics or evolution or any of the things. If people, if your parents and your teachers don't teach you that it's real and it exists, you don't even know. It's like I knew what people thought God was, you know. I would see it in movies or I could describe it. And I'm sure any time I ask my parents, especially my dad, he would have been like, yeah, I don't believe that's real. It's probably just fairy tales.

And then I'm like, oh, okay, I guess that's not real then. I mean, how the fuck else are you supposed to find it? This is why I always struggled with that whole idea that like, like, you get, you get exposure to it. And then it's like, it's about letting them into your heart and then, like, really feeling. it and then being there and it's like yeah but what happens if you would like always taught it was a bit of a fairy tale how would you change that like unless you're really good at either one tricking yourself or two just being able to change your own mind but i don't know it's like once i learned the world was round i don't think someone can persuade me it's flat right and i'm not saying that is the same

exact connection it's just i'm saying it's from one way of thinking to something very different and it just it's a difficult transition it is and it just cements in your you know belief it's like it's almost like trauma where the the longer you have it it's like cement that gets harder and harder you know where i guess you can make the same connection with something like that where it's like how do you just undo all that that's that's like has built up over time yeah and also you know i say stay open to things always like life changes i mean rogan started going back to church or going to church you know this is a real new and there's going to be influences of that coming into the show for sure and i think people do explore these things again or at least open the question again later in

life because life just changes and you're like well where am i going next or what kind of communities do i want to be a part of you know i've seen it a lot with a drug addicts too that they along with their sobriety they find this new kind of community that really embraces them and they feel that it will help them stay clean and then they they're like that some addicts get so desperate man they're looking for anything that can help them and when they find it they're going to believe in that thing a lot and i don't begrudging for that i'm like good good do you think like what christianity is is a great way for people like get off that like wagon you know get off that train of like just alcoholism there's so many stories of people being like yeah

i was like fucked up i was drinking hand sanitizer and shit i was i was trying to get drunk any way i could then i found the lord it's it's like that's the whole like 12 step program or whatever where it's like it's just a gateway to born again christianity so true all right well let's call this one for today i mean overall what do you rate this one if you're going to give it a what are we doing out of ten out of ten what's our rating system all right out of ten out of ten i'm going to give this a solid six out of ten yeah gonna say six yeah gonna say six i i did have slightly high hopes for it and you know it doesn't take anything away from mcconnor hey but the yacht talk lost lost some valuable points on this one for me

the hollywood bubble has like never been thicker you know that's so true all right well appreciate it and guys thanks for listening and gals and we will talk to you next time see you next week