Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 474 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Elon Musk

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorne. This might either be the worst podcast, we're the best one a long time. One, go. Enjoy the show. Hey, guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. This week, we are reviewing Elon Musk's recent October 31st, 2025, episode 2404.

appearance on Rogan. Elon hasn't been on for a while. I think it was December of last year. This is a big deal. I mean, this is post-Douge and he's been laying low a little bit since his departure from Doge. Yeah, I think he said he only could do 120 days as a special government employee or whatever his title was. But yeah, and he's on. And he's talking about some of his findings and what else he's up to and all the rest of it. A quick plug to the Patreon. Thank you all for being members of that. Again, we've got videos and other different bits and snippets and fun things over there.

So go ahead, jump over to Patreon. You can see our link in the bio. We appreciate you supporting our show. It goes a long way. joined today by Brandon. How you doing, buddy? It's great to be here. I'm doing pretty well. I'm excited to talk about my favorite Diablo four player. And yeah, man, like, it's nice to see Elon back on the podcast. What a different episode this was from what I thought it would be when you compare this episode with his first appearance. I thought it was night and day, personally. Yeah.

Yeah, he's definitely in a different place. I think that he's jaded politically, for sure, and also he's a very polarizing figure now. And also, I would say, triggering figure, for sure. You bring up his name in many circles that used to love him to death. And people are, you get a visceral reaction. people are upset sometimes yeah and you look at the whole controversy with tesla and people

graffiti in cars and trashing dealerships he fucking hates the democrats and it shows it really does show on this episode just how red-pilled he is and again like i said it's so night and day compared to his first couple appearances his time in office has changed him so much and we'll get into that but it was a very very political episode i thought it was like what 90% politics i think pretty close yeah pretty close and if you want a republican or very neutral um it i would imagine it's pretty annoying episode too i bet it was quite difficult to listen to honestly yeah it's so different from early rogan like when we're talking left wing california rogan like it's like wow i feel like we have hit the other end of the spectrum like this episode has to be it

sure yeah yeah yeah it's all it's changing for sure but you know i mean a lot of people in that time have changed their policies i think even the parties themselves have changed a bunch in that time as well. Right. I mean, you know, you look at the Democratic Party today compared to when the podcast started in 2009. That's a completely different place. 2009 was what Obama, you know, Hillary was Secretary of State. I mean, I think even back then they weren't supporting gay marriage. And now it's like, think how liberal they, the Democratic Party is now. I mean, it's totally different in 16 years. It seems like both parties have changed quite a lot and due to Trump, obviously.

And, yeah, both sides have definitely changed their positions on a lot of things, I think. Like, this is such a weird era for America. And they talk about it on the episode, but yeah, weird times. And like Elon says, it feels like there's something crazy every day. It's just constant chaos in this country. That I agree with. Yeah. What was the public's reaction to this?

You know, what's the funny reaction? What's the public reaction? Right. So a lot of views on this one. A lot of people talking about it. So episodes like this are really hard to judge because a lot of the criticism is really just all political, a lot just from the left, Democrats. but the comments where you get those Rogan fans

is where you find like the real criticism and the real opinions on it. Yeah, a lot of people enjoyed it, but there was a lot of like funny comments as well and just people commenting how funny Elon is and his laugh. He seems like he makes himself laugh all the time. He reminded me of the Joker a little bit in a couple places. But yeah, the big criticism were like, you know, political commentary and

fact checking and yeah, just from a different political leaning. But that's really what it is. And again, when you have a podcast like this, that's 90% politics, it's going to cause quite a controversy and my whole YouTube feed was just filled with both sides commenting on Elon's points and arguing about them. So yeah, I feel like it's not even about the episode's quality anymore, but about the talking points themselves. But yeah, a lot of people thought Elon was just like a very strange goblin like creature in the comments. But yeah, it was, it was quite a political episode. I mean, one of the top comments I'm looking at now, and put it in perspective, so it's four days old, 6.7 million views, significantly larger than anything in the

last month. So that's just Elon's pull. And the thing about Elon is he gets the views not just from the fans, the people that like him. It's like he creates interesting. interest. The haters are looking at what he's saying to. People are just paying attention to him in a big way. And that is very interesting because it's almost like whether you like him or hate him, a lot of people just feel like he can't be ignored. Whatever he's doing, it's like you still got to pay attention to it because he just has too much influence, whether it's because of X, because of the fact that he's worth half a trillion dollars, you know, because of, you know,

just the fact that he has his finger in so many pies, so to speak, whether it's SpaceX, Tesla, you know, you name it. Love it or Atom, this guy is so fucking famous now. There was a period where for multiple months, this guy was on my news feed every day, multiple times a day. This guy has skyrocketed to fame. And, you know, working hands to hand with Trump, working in the office with Doge, everything he did in the White House, everyone's looking at him, especially with Trump. I feel like even international politics and commentators are talking about Trump more than the policies happening in their own country.

So with Elon being next to Trump, yeah, like you're saying, everyone's eyes are on him. so an episode like this of course is going to get a lot of traction also looking at the episode in the past where he smokes weed on the podcast which that was huge yeah game changing for him huge as well and i still i think that's still the most downloaded episode that rogan ever did yeah pretty sure i wouldn't be surprised man and with his return a second i just wanted to read the the top comment period is he just called Jeff Bezos a pencil-necked geek within the first minute. That is funny and that is great. And yeah, he did. And, you know, that is interesting because they do have a good back and forth. I've got a feeling those two probably get on just

fine, you know. Yeah, I bet it's just fun ribbing between the two so-called richest people in the world. Though I doubt they even are. I bet it's like Saudis and Putin. I mean, some dude in India or something. But dude, to be honest, to be a fly on the wall when Elon is in the studio, to hear what they are talking about off air. Oh my God. Do I wish I can hear some of these conversations? Because the Epstein talk, what are we talking? 30 seconds. It's like, are you kidding me? Life is hard, so don't go into it soft. ED

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Oh, yeah, they did notice that that wasn't brought up, obviously. Yeah. So what's your whole theory behind that? I mean, I think it probably is just what was stated. And, you know, does he even need to say more? Yeah. It's like, I said it. There it is.

And he's hung out with Trump since. He's, you know, he's not obviously closely tied to him, but Trump can't really deny the influence and, you know, position that that Elon has just with everything that he's doing and his overall wealth so you know Trump still does connect they're not obviously as close as they were Elon's made that clear but um you know I think that that was just Elon strategically distancing himself and you know it sounds like quite rightly so he just doesn't like that shit And it seems like he's one of the few billionaires out there that's actually not going to defend and protect and cover up, you know, pitophilia.

So fair play to him. And, you know, once again, just like anything, nobody gives him any credit. Nobody cares if he saves astronauts. Nobody cares if he does anything. It's like, oh, screw him because he did Doge or because he hates Democrats or whatever the heck. that he's doing. Right. I mean, the difficult thing is this.

Like, I guess you could just call him a liar and be like, no, he's lying. It's disingenuous. They looked at the social security thing. They weren't even paying people. But, you know, if you just take it as face value, okay, he looked into this. And he did find that this is a way to get your name in a data bank. And then you can throw a bunch of other government services. scam a bunch of resources and money, and none of it's verified, I mean, well, if that's true

and that's happening, that's certainly bad, then we should stop it. And that's awful. Yeah, for sure, man. And I know Elon. There's no way to verify it. So you either just sit there and go, he's a liar, and he's wrong, and that's all bullshit, and this is propaganda, or you just believe that he found it. And that's true, and that's what it is. It's like, there's just, you, it just comes to a point where you just have to sit there, take everything that you know of the person or the sound bites, the way that they speak, their reputation, just what they've created and done and be like, yeah, I think they're pretty genuine.

And I've just kind of decided to trust them, you know. Whereas, honestly, you take someone like Bill Gates, me personally, don't really care for him. Don't really trust them. you know i think of the impossible burger which he backed and said was great that's a piece of shit and it sounds like it's poison and you know he's like super pro vaccine stance that he had and then all of a sudden he flips on that now all of a sudden he's flipping on climate change after hanging out with trump for a few weeks i'm just like i don't know if this guy has any real values at all and just wants to make a lot of money he does hide behind the change

charity, which does a lot of good work, but also, I don't know if that's all that genuine sometimes. Pencilback geek, dude, yeah. He is a nerd. Here's what's like a little confusing to me about this whole thing, because, yeah, you have Elon pretty much making amends with Trump. We see it happen publicly. I feel like Elon is right.

That is a big bomb you drop saying. something like that. You don't say that lightly. You know, what if it is just a tax thing? Because it makes a lot of sense. You can clean money with his help. And it's not just a prostitution ring. And there were other things Epstein was doing in the business side of working with billionaires and all these high-tech people. wouldn't you want to clear that up if that is the case why he was in the files wouldn't you just want to say hey uh i know i said this crazy thing on x i was just really upset and angry it's he's not a pedophile i just want to say that he's not a pedophile and all the truth will be revealed soon i feel like just the fact that nothing was said and

that wasn't cleared up at all just for me it was like i'm going to take notes on that. I'm going to remember this because it just seems a little weird with how involved Elon was and saw the Epstein files and how Joe is obsessed with these files at the same time. And the fact that, you know, they're talked about for 30 seconds, I think is like a major point in this podcast that a lot of people aren't talking about because it just feels a little strange. It feels a little off, especially for Joe. to. And that's why I feel like to be a fly on the wall and to hear them actually talk about it off camera, who knows what they were talking about. Who knows what Elon actually knows? Yeah. Joe's definitely having more of the really good parts of the conversation in private now than I think he used to, you know, even to the point where, you know, when when Elon said, I'll come on your show and tell you about aliens. I think even that conversation

will be that he tells Rogan, but then he's like, listen. Also, there are elements of the U.S. government that don't want me to say this to anybody, even though we found it, I will say it to you. I'm not going to say it on the air. That's what you get. Up to you.

Elon probably won't say it. You know, and I think that that's kind of at the, that's just the size and scope of what they're, they're dealing with. But, you know, I mean, Elon did say on this, he goes, I don't think Trump is evil. And I think if he knew that he was actually a pedophile, he would think that he's evil. So he knows that he's doing something. I think he thinks that, you know, what does being on the list mean? Does being on the list mean that you went to the island or you were involved in things like you knew stuff was going on there?

Like how close does it? Were you just a business partner? Yeah. Exactly. It's like how guilty does it make you? That's the real question there. I mean, it obviously makes you some level of guilt to something. It means you knew something was going on and turned a blind eye, which isn't great.

like that isn't great so yeah Elon Elon is just being like yeah this is Trump did something and that's why he's not saying this and you know he does I think he's also trying to tell us something like someone else has power over Trump he doesn't have the power to do this all the balls to do this and Elon's not able to say who that group is that's more powerful. Although, you know, I think we all have an idea possible. Yeah, we can follow the breadcrumbs for sure on that one. Yeah, especially lately, unfortunately.

Sure. Yeah, your point about the three-eye Atlas thing, that was an interesting discussion. And Elon saying, hey, if I learn anything about aliens, I'll come on the show and talk about it. Hopefully it's not an Anna-Polina-Luna situation where she's like, yeah, so there is evidence that there's evidence of evidence of this

and it's like all this shit that it's like, well, so what is it? What's, what is, what are you trying to tell me? Hopefully in the future we get some like actual proof, you know, Elon coming forward and be like, yeah. So in the 50s so, so like not interested. You're right. For the guy that buyers rockets. That is true.

wants to go to Mars and it has more satellites in space than it literally puts 90% of everything that goes to space in space Rogan brings up 3i Atlas had like the main astronomer in the world that talks about it

all the time on the pod like last week and Elon's like no that's kind those asteroids are normal that's a normal one that's a normal comment I don't know I mean that seems I don't know

maybe that's that's probably normal I mean it was like he was talking about you know are you do you think the latest Camry is cool

Toyota Camry he's like he just couldn't care less he's just like answering the question I'm like 3E Atlas is the most interesting

thing we've ever seen fly through our solar system even if it is a big giant fucking rock there is something fueling its trajectory besides gravity. Some weird shit's going on, dude.

Right. It's made a nickel. There's so many interesting facts about this. And Elon's like, yeah, dude, with how things are going in my life, I can fucking give less of a shit. His life must be so crazy. How desensitized Elon must be to life

at this point. Like even me, man, just living through some of these things. I feel like if this was a mothership and it landed I'd be like cool but when's like GTA 6 coming out you know this is how I feel about life right now

it feels like every day that would be the top comment we get 8 in motherships before GTA 6 but that's just how I feel it just feels it just doesn't feel like real life anymore and they even talk about yeah I'm pretty sure this is a simulation after living in 2025

and can't agree more at this point. Well, he does have a point just kind of like a statistical game theory idea when he was talking about, well, we're making simulations kind of all the time now. And, you know, it's the most interesting ones continue. So as long as this one stays interesting and it continue, it's like if we're making our own simulations and millions of them, even though the ones we make seem very simple and basic compared to the one that. that we're in, but that's only because this is the only one that we know. So who knows how simple this is compared to what could be on the outside of the simulation,

which could be a billion times more complex than what we have. You know, it would only therefore then make sense that if we're making them, why aren't we one of also millions and billions of others? and you know it's kind of hard then to argue with that type of logic I just don't know what it changes it's a fun thought experiment

but it's like does it make any difference yeah I think therefore I am if I'm in the Sims right now fuck it I'm having a fun time and I don't know man it's really crazy to think about that because we are a primal society

we really are and we can integrate AI into video games now this year. Imagine our society in 100 years, in 500 years, in 1,000 years. Yeah. I read a book. I read a book. It's a comedy series that they had in England. It was called Red Dwarf.

And some Americans know it's great. It's very fun. It's about a guy that basically went, he got in trouble. He was like a janitor on a spaceship and they got in trouble. They put him in stasis for like the weekend because he was like, you know, he was like in trouble. It was like that jail. Anyway, something went wrong and he was stuck there for three million years and then came out. Everyone's dead and he's like stuck in this future.

Well, he has no one to hang out with. So he's like talking to all the janitor robots and there's a toaster that talks and it's an AI toaster. but it always just wants to talk about toast because that's its primary function but it is an AI so it's like a genius it's like a super intelligent AI level toaster that also just wants to talk about toast but because of the level of technology it also knows like everything that humanity could ever know and given enough time even the most basic computer game on a cell phone phone, you could go to any character within it, and it could have more complexity than any of your friends, right? Yeah, in 10 years, your processing thing. Exactly. In 10 years, your Roomba could be

depressed. Like, who would know? This is smart, they're all depressed. That's the highest form of life, AI, getting depressed. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's such a weird time, man. And what was really exciting and what I really was pumped about on this podcast was Elon talking about flying cars. Oh, yeah. That is some shit that I cannot wait to see.

I love Elon's whole explanation being like, well, I feel like we've caught up to Blade Runner and they had flying cars so fuck it, which is just the craziest reasoning. It's just, it's insane that someone like that with

that amount of power and money could just do that. shit. Fuck it. I want flying cars. Time to do it, I guess. God, Blade Rona was such a good movie. Great. So ahead of its time. Wasn't that AI? That was like robots, weren't they? Yeah, that was, that was kind of like, I, like, it had some, like, I robot stuff in it, where it's like, it's this guy deactivating robots that are, like, conscious, I believe. Yeah, they would, they were, like, trying to figure, like, they were like, Harrison Ford, trying to figure themselves out and what they feel about

it was cool as hell but yeah he said he said basically they want to do the demo for the next gen Tesla Roadster hopefully the end of this year if they can pull it off that'll be soon it's crazier than like all the James Bond cars combined

so who the hell knows what that means because they had I'm pretty sure they had flying James Bond cars they definitely have one that was a submarine so I don't know how the hell they're going to make it cooler than that now here's the question

Adam if we get a couple more sponsors are you buying one what a Tesla Roadster flying car Tesla flying car flying Tesla Roadster car yeah I mean it sounds very cool

it sounds very cool I don't know if I need it I don't know if it's appropriate for my family and where I am currently in my life. Yeah. If I was younger, I think I'd be into it.

I'm just not trying to impress anybody. And I think I'm kind of scared. Well, I'm not kind of scared. I'm very afraid of heights. So I wouldn't want to go very high in any vehicle that I was in control of.

It just seems totally unnecessary for me. That's the issue, man. That's like what I don't understand with flying cars. It's like when it breaks down. You can't just pull over to a cloud. Mm-mm. You know? You die the scariest fucking death. Yeah, you crash on a parachute on the

parachute. Maybe it just like, it pops like an airbag into one of those bowls that those people bounce down the mountains on. Yeah. You ever seen those people? Yeah. Yeah, they bounced out. But it's car size. Those people are okay. They live. So you're just in a car. bouncing that would be the most insane imagery i i hope he has something in place because like you know your card eyes you just like you know see cars fall out of the sky yeah horrifying i don't know i you know we're going to find out a couple of months i hope it's cool um he always has

pretty spectacular uh unveilings he said this one is the best that he's had and he's had he's had some really cool ones um yeah we'll see what it does i mean supposedly with like the boost of technology that the other one was supposed to have had it could do like zero to 60 in like a second or something which is just insane i mean i would have assumed you'd like pass out from that that's like to do anything um but yeah we'll see i've never needed to do that on the road either or it's like like what i just don't need to get i'm never that late for anything you know what i'm like i'm like got to go yeah just like accelerate you're at work in a second you know that you're already yeah that's crazy man dude the fucking the 50 cent AI stuff when is that going to

stop he needs every just stop rogan stop showing everyone just show everyone just show Show them before the podcast starts. Dude, at this point, just have AI 50 cent on the podcast. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Everyone listening has already heard it. Two, that's number one. Two, you can't play the fucking song anyway because of copyright.

So no one listening even gets to hear it. So all we get is like a really bad reaction video of a guess that probably didn't want to listen to it anyway. Maybe they did, but mostly it's Rogan. Mostly Rogan wants to listen to it. And look, I'll give it to you, some of them are good. I listened to one the other day, and it was Oasis Wonderwall, but like blues from like the 50s or 60s. Really good, dude. There are some great ones.

Now, do I need to play it on my podcast every week for the next month? No. I won't do that for you. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm not going to do it. I'm not putting us. Like, to be honest, I'm into like a lot of thrash metal and people are taking, like, there's a really cool one,

Holy Wars by Megadeth, and someone put it through AI and made it like this funk 60s song, and it translates so well. And what AI music is showing me is that some of these, it just goes to show how amazing these people are at songwriting. 50 Cent, for example. It's like, God damn. It makes you really appreciate his songwriting, his lyrics and everything.

For sure. And here's the thing, if you weren't into rap or ever were, it's so easy to dismiss like a gangster rapper. You know, he's like F-bombing, saying the M-Wood, all the rest of it, right? And talking about shooting people. And then it's got that kind of beat to it too. But then when you play it through this filter and you put that soul in and the rest of the beat, yeah, all that language is the same, but now there's this new kind of emotion that has a class

and a style that you're accept, you're allow in, and you're like, oh, this is what he was saying, and I resonate with this. Like, I feel what he was trying to say this whole time, even though I've heard this song, I guess I wasn't listening to it before. So it kind of is, it's like, an interesting way for people that would have never given that music a chance to hear what it is. And I bet that's going to be the same thing for certain types of, you know, heavy metal and thrash metal type stuff because there are plenty of people that just could never get into that kind of aggressive sound. It's a lot for some people, right? It doesn't mean that it doesn't have an incredible talent behind it, right? Yeah. And when you just strip this

song down to its bones and put a different coat of paint on it people were like oh well i do like that coat of paint and oh i see what the the musician the artist was trying to do here and oh i i appreciate it i see i see what i couldn't see before and yeah i think my one issue with it is besides like the slop like not human element to it is like there's no feel really especially when you're talking soul and the funk. I feel like that's like a big element for me is like the human feel to the music. But yeah.

I'll tell you what, though. They fake it pretty good. Pretty fucking damn well, man. They're just like, oh, yeah. And you're just like, bang, and I feel this. And then you realize that's just all a computer. None of that is crazy. The guy doesn't exist.

He's not even a thing that exists. I can't believe is that. Nailed it. It's just as coming to a point. where it's it's crazy and Elon talking about Grock too with the roast and like you can ask rock to use like forbidden words and everything to roast people is crazy and then was it this episode where Joe talks about how Ron White was using chat GBT to like punch up material no shit I don't believe it was yeah was it this episode miss all this AI talk is starting to bleed

together to be honest yeah but but uh yeah it makes sense dude i mean you know you definitely if i was doing stand-up now i used to have such a hard time writing like everyone always does i would use chat gpt a shitload i would have it like i would take some of my five-minute sets i would put it in i would be like try and figure out a bit of my style help me with a bit of a premise i mean i would use it a bunch i think i would imagine it's probably a pretty useful tool like you got to be careful that you're not having it lead you away from your voice which is hopefully what you work towards which is like that 10 year grind but if you could stay clear of that and just keep it motivating you and keeping you working

i bet it could be really fucking useful yeah i'm not surprised run why is using it I'm sure some of these other guys are, and they're not talking about it. I agree. And I've tried it. I actually tried it after listening to that, because I'm like, you know what? Let me just fucking run some shit through chat GBT. I ran my tight five, and I ran like a bit. I've been trying to make work forever.

And I'm just tweaking it to death, and I just can't figure it out. I put it all in chat, GBT. I fucking hated all of it. So maybe I just, it's all about the joke. It's all about some of the other commands you put in as well, make it more dark, make it more quirky on this line, change this. But yeah, I feel like stand-up is one of those things where you can't really replicate through AI

because stand-up is all personality. It's all, it's very personal. Yeah, a lot of it will be lost for sure. Right, and it's coming from a character. Like you build a character on stage, like Shane Gillis is a character, who he is. you know the frat bro Fox News Dad fucking what is an AI

gonna like we like it because we can relate to it and of course It never get delivery for sure It didn't never get delivery But it will be It's patent recognition and plagiarism So it will be able to notice

patterns amongst other jokes that are like set up in similar ways so it could structure that, help you with that structure. It could also identify other comedians that write similar types of jokes as you to kind of help that type of formatting, you know, keep you on track there. And who knows, how long will it be before you could upload literally your entire set? So then it can see your cadence, your timing, all of that structure,

and then kind of help you alter that. I mean, think about it. Imagine if it could render a whole new set with you up there with perfect timing, with perfect cadence, and like adjusting you. I mean, that's a little off, like into the future. But it's not out of the realm of total impossibility. Imagine you go, hey, I'm doing a 30 minute set and I only have 15 minutes of material. Can you stretch out my whole set to 30?

and I'm doing it to an older audience so can it work for them and then boom, you have a whole set who knows what the fuck this is going to look like and to your point yeah when it comes to one-liner comics I don't know that's a field that

where it's not personal and it's more about the structure of the joke yeah I don't know man literally if you wrote in give me original one-liner jokes like it would know all of the recorded one-line jokes and it would just start to write other ones like they wouldn't necessarily

be that good but that's the interesting thing about one-liners they don't actually have to be all that funny if it's original they can be like a bit of a chuckle it's more like how many of those you can rattle off in a minute what what's hard with a lot of this too and they talk about it a little bit on the episode is also like what the AI can say, you know, because dark humor, chat GBT's not going to say certain things. But at the same time, Brock will. Yeah, yeah. If you put in your joke and you're like, you know, make this funny, it's going to just turn

into a Jimmy Fallon monologue. But if you put your set into Grok, it's going to just be Kramer at the laugh factory, you know so maybe one day there'll be a middle ground but and if you haven't seen that set there be a link in the bottom no there won't be we're not going to be god what a fucking bomb that was that was a bad day for that guy the bomb heard around the world yeah did you see the you know a bit of a side note did you see the apology thing where Jerry was on Letterman and then Kramer Zoom called in

and he's like what I've done is unforgivable and I'm so sorry and the studio audience is laughing and Jerry goes guys it's not funny please be quiet they're still laughing yeah they're still laughing one of the most awkward things I've seen on TV yeah because everyone's used to laughing at Kramer so like the whole thing was just such a bad Jerry obviously had to really pull some strings to make that happen.

And, you know, the whole thing was just a total disaster. Terrible. One of the worst apologies I've ever seen. I don't, yeah, I don't. If you were in that position, what do you think you would have done to try and work your way out of that? Jesus. Well, first of all, I don't know what the fuck. would have to be like going on in my headspace to like have that laugh factory moment you know

yeah it was a bad i mean i i've had some rough weeks but yeah at that point you just go what i've done is unforgivable i'm going to go live on an island like what the fuck do you say i don't i don't know yeah um but yeah i'm just going to live on an island and just to listen to Rogan. There's no way that you could not say that you, at least at that moment and previously to that moment, were clearly a racist.

Yeah. Like, you clearly had negative feelings towards black people if you were able to say that that many times. That's not just being angry. That's like really disliking a type of person. Also, dudes from the 60s, so. I don't know

Oh yeah So maybe just different That makes a lot of different generations Yeah We're talking about a different generation here And he was also going through a lot of stuff Because people were like taunting him And he had a show that didn't work

You know fucking with him But you're a comedian People fuck with comedians You know Well it's like his whole thing He had such a Kramer had such Michael Richards Had such an ego man

And everyone's saying this guy was the funniest on Seinfeld his career is going to explode and then it just didn't go anywhere he started he had his own sitcom that tanked and then he decided to get into stand-up and he's like maybe I'll just do that and then that never really went anywhere and I've heard comedians talk about like even Adam Ray has talked about working with him and you know comics have said yeah he goes on stage and people laugh the first couple minutes but then you know they're like well it's not and then it kind of dies out because he's not a stand-up. Yeah.

And then it's just all, his whole world was starting to crack. Sitcoms weren't working out. He just, his acting career, he wasn't getting roles. Same thing with, I feel so bad, call him George Costanza. George, even him, man, he was talking about wearing a toupee because no one would cast him because they're saying, oh, you're just going to be George. George. They're just going to see you and think George, but anyway, that's all the whole thing. Michael Richards, that'd be a fucking, or any of the Seinfeld cast, I'd love to see on Rogan. That would be a, that would be a really interesting episode. But. Oh, Jason Alexander. Yes. Yeah. Fucking awesome, awesome voice actor. Awesome actor. Really, it was just, it was just Lorraine and Jerry that ever did anything after.

woods. Yeah, what was that called the Seinfeld curse? Oh, was that one of those? Yeah. Well, it was just the fact that no one was able to make a career besides Jerry. I think it was called the Seinfeld Curse or something. Yeah, Elaine. Elaine did what I call Lorraine. I meant Elaine. Elaine. She did VP. VP was a big show, but I guess that was a lot, a long time later. Well, she got an Oscar for that. I'm pretty sure. And then what was her boyfriend, that, like, squinty-eyed guy? He was in... Joe on Family Guy.

Joe and Family Guy. Didn't he also do an American Dad character, I think, too? He definitely had bigger roles. We're just like, he had some movie roles, too. He was the tick. Exactly, yeah. So some of them did. But, yeah, either way, I mean, I could imagine that that would.

really negatively impact you but still it really doesn't matter what's going on in your life you don't get to go on stage and yell that that many times and then if you do i think the only thing you can do is go on tv and say yeah i said that it's awful i am terrible and i need to go live in a cabin i'll see you in 10 years i don't think that there's another thing you can say you can't you can't say something where someone goes, well, I guess he does have a point there. What the fuck are you supposed to say? Yeah, you can't. Yeah.

Yeah, you have to go to every inner city black neighborhood and they throw like rotten vegetables at you until everyone feels a bit better. Have you seen the South Park episode on Kramer? Oh, where they do the Wheel of Fortune? Yeah. Yeah. genius he's like we're just reduced to being these n-word guys and they act like like repressed black people it's so fucking great it's it's a hilarious episode well i do i do want to touch on you know uh before we wrap up finish up on this the Elon stuff I do want to say I thought it was really interesting how he was talking about like how America is unfixable which that was crazy stuff, I think he's probably correct about it.

I mean, the interest alone is higher than our military spending. There seems to be no way to reduce that deficit. Nobody really even tries. It just keeps going up. Inflation's just going to keep doing it. It's like, yeah, kind of screwed. And eventually something's going to pop. Yeah, I've never heard of politician.

He's the wealthiest guy in the world. like he knows how money works you don't accidentally get there so for him to say that that's that's alarming it's scary stuff maybe a i can pull us out of this with some super a i thinking brain but unless something intervenes yeah we might be fucked on this one i've never heard a politician be like well unless we like gangis con it which was just such a crazy point yeah so so he's pretty much just saying like you know the only way to help is to heavily focus on AI and robotics which uh kind of a coincidence that it's what he specializes in but he does have a point he's pretty much saying we would have to change the system entirely

but the thing is there's no system to prepare us for AI in automation and it's fucking us and he's also like which this is not just like him saying this but also birth rate needs to increase because you get more taxpayers more people in the workforce but we're not really seeing that right now it's kind of like you need to also support the older generation to right you got to replace them and support them so yeah we're in we're in some problems so we're not seeing an increase in birth rate and we're not seeing, you know, any system in place to help us with AI and automation. So who knows. But it's just like many things.

We just sometimes got to just wait for it to happen and fall into it. It's like we can't know all the ways we're going to tackle it until it happens. But like many revolutions of things, the industrial and so forth, the, you know, agricultural we we work through it we find a way to evolve into it and I'm sure we do the same here I'm hopeful well hopefully right and hopefully what Elon says where one day we can be in a high income economy which I would love to just be rich in Bali having like a sex spot blow me as I do smelling salts but I'm not sure how possible that is especially looking at what it is now but them talking about in a high-income economy, it's like, oh, if only, I can, how awesome that would be,

but we are so fucking far from that. But anyway, 20 years away. Yeah, 20 years away. I think it's gross. We're predicting it right here on the show 20 years away. Only to it. Right. So I thought, you know, pretty interesting episode, pretty solid.

If I was to rate it, I don't know for me, I'm just going to be honest. I thought this was like entertaining. but to me like the weakest Elon Rogan episode I'd give it like a 7 out of 10 I'm with you 7 out of 10 I like Elon I was into listening to it from start to finish but uh did it leave me feeling super pumped and excited about all things not not so much not so much a little depressed a little bit but still solid still solid hopefully hopefully you have some more hopeful things to talk about next time and less politics i'd be down for that yeah well uh adam my heart goes out to you and uh thank you thank you all right it was fun talking uh rogan everyone else

thanks for listening and we will talk to you guys next time cheers peace see yeah