Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 477 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Theo Von

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

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Theo Vaughn, the legend that is. And, ma'am, was he on fire? I was looking for goofs. I thought it would be a very silly, fun episode, but wow. I don't know what to say. He's just gone in too deep now. His podcast is too big. He's too influential.

People are telling him too much stuff. It's starting to scramble his brain. He's been also hanging out with Candace Owens, which shows. That'd do it. And she seems to have planted some things in his head that he's been spiraling about. Oh, my God. Yeah, this episode is insane. This is like almost a turning point for the podcast, in my opinion.

Oh, yeah. It really is. You can look at this whole podcast, the entire timeline, and definitely, like, pick out eras. Whatever era this is, this is like the pinnacle episode of politics. We're Joe's at right now. Wow. Yeah. We have a lot to talk about.

it's crazy i really think that both of them are i i think to some degree they're both regretting um kind of having trump on to some degree you know or just like getting involved with that kind of level of politics i think they're both pretty disillusioned by the state of politics and you know i think they just want to go back to podcasting and sort of staying away from it. It's like podcasting got too close to that world and almost got taken advantage of, I think.

I think those politicians came in and just said, oh, we're using this space for what we want. They're in too deep. Be fair, smart move. It is. Duncan Trussell warned Joe about this, remember? Where he goes, hey man, your podcast is blown up. There's going to be some evil people

who are going to try to take advantage of your platform since it's the biggest in the world. and Joe's like, come on, we'll just hug them. We'll just hug it out. Unfortunately, that didn't really work out because Theo's having a mental breakdown on the podcast. Joe is tiptoeing around certain subjects. It's crazy. This was a crazy episode.

It was not, Steve. Yeah. The reaction to it was interesting, too. like the top comments on youtube was uh quote joe redirecting the convo every time theo mentions is real 6.5,000 likes yeah um and spotify was really trying to stay clear of that but you know he was also making it a little bit of a joke as well i mean it wasn't like he cut it from the episode right yeah but if you were to cut like you can't hide it like the thing is if he cut all that out it wouldn't even make sense whoa you cut out 30 minutes you know and there would be all these

jump cuts it would be people would be like what is happening in this podcast um yeah Spotify people seem to be very chill about it um top comment you guys better not complain it's king Theo Vaughn where that's a thing of course we're seeing a lot of people kind of complaining in the comments oh get this guy I didn't like this episode the comments on Spotify newer right this is kind of a new

feature that they've added to Spotify and I don't think it has the kind of community that like a YouTube has YouTube has a very developed comment community right there's a style to it there's a It's like, when I look at the Spotify ones, it's a whole different feel in there.

You know, I'm not saying they're necessarily like, or it's just very short. It's just like, blah, pretty good, you know, it's it. It is, but it's also like a massive part of Joe's listener base. That's the only reason why I'm including it because I listen to it on Spotify, you know. I don't use YouTube, but, yeah. Also, top comment, when is Nick Fuentes coming on? We see that every single episode. Nick Fuentes, get him on, get Nick Fuentes on.

And the comment after that, thank you for speaking up about things Joe is afraid to talk about. So it seems like people are seeing right through this, right through the bullshit. And people also want Nick Fuentes on, which I'm not sure if that will ever happen. because, I don't know, Joe seemed like he really disagreed with Charlie Kirk. I feel like Nick Fuentes is a little more extreme on that side. And Joe might see that and disagree with a lot of that because, I don't know, if you disagree with Charlie Kirk, I don't know anyone who disagrees with Charlie Kirk, but agrees with Nick Fuentes, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. a good point and and i'm just saying that because i'm trying to look at this through joe's perspective because he got a lot of backlash from after charlie kirk's death being like yeah i didn't agree with this this this and this and people are like fuck off you know anyway uh yeah so let's just get this out of the way i thought what was hilarious on this episode was how joe just misses the glasses joke right away you know in the beginning when he puts on the glasses and theo's like oh they're like weighted glasses so you can do like well what did he say he's like they're weighted glasses so you can like work out your neck and she's like why would you do that

it's like he's obviously fucking kidding I love it when Joe misses yeah yeah and this is like literally like 10 seconds since I'm like this is going to be a good episode he does he does like to get in a pretty serious mood sometimes joe does like he gets he gets real serious and then i mean doing that with theo is like come on what are you doing obviously he's a goofball yeah it's like everything theo says should be suspect and we really saw that this episode but not for the reason you would think it is you know where it's like everything he says it's like oh it's probably a joke or something like this is right off of the his mental breakdown.

That's a good point, actually. Like that also was a reason why I was really anticipating this because he didn't, I mean, it's just online called it a breakdown, right? He just had, he just had like a bit of a moment during his special and, you know, there was just kind of a bit of a reaction. He's spoken about it and kind of downplayed it, right? Yeah. But something definitely happened.

Something was going on with Theo for sure. Well, Charlie Kirk's death was a big part of that, you know, because Charlie Kirk got killed and then the home security, Homeland Security, I forget the timeline. I think it was right after Homeland Security put out the video of Theo Von being like, bye. Oh, that was not. promoting ice yeah that was and theo was fearing for his life that's what he was saying like he was saying he was calling joe he's calling all his friends he's like you guys aren't right because he's like i guess they're just killing these political figures now any kind of figure that's on tic talk or a podcaster so he started fearing for his life and then apparently mark merrin threw a wrench in that

as well as we talked about on the last episode we did just talk about the Mark Marin beef, which was a lot of fun, kind of a new format we were messing with for this podcast. Last episode, we just covered the entire Mark Marin, Joe Rogan beef. But when Mark Merrin made a joke about Theo that also set him off, it was really just many things that made him explode. And then the special taping, he's freaking out. He's freaking out. He's panicking. He's having anxiety. He's missing the jokes. He's forgetting lines. And then he's going over Kansas Owens' house. And she's saying, oh, Palantir's going to kill you. Peter Thiel is coming to your house with a knife. It's getting scary, you know.

Yeah. And he's just, he's needed to have just crushed. He is. And he's just getting crushed by the weight of all this. And that's what's happening. And you see that unfold on this episode. You really do. Yeah. He's like flying too close to the sun of conspiracies. Yes. And to be fair, I mean, some of it is not unwarranted. I mean, that homeland ice thing is, I mean, we don't know what the messages were like that he was getting. I mean, people have not been happy.

I mean, Joe's not even happy with some of this ice stuff. I mean, it seems like this is some real heavy-handed behavior in some areas. And, you know, it's pretty sad to see. And to be tied to that, you know, to be seen as someone out of context that's like promotes it, not even promotes it, like mocks it. Like later, get out of the country. Like, yeah, hi. It's beginning to look a lot like holidays on the house at draft Kings Casino celebrate the season with bright lights and big wins on all your favorite casino games. Spend more than 1,000 slots, everything from the classics to exclusive new releases. New players get 500 spins over 10 days on your

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He's this conservative figure who helped Trump get elected. What was Trump's biggest thing? Immigration, deportation. So you put two and two together. time and then that video exists so it's like oh this is what he helped create he's promoting this he won't mind us using this video so i understand that perspective because they were acting on this podcast like how could they well how why would they think that's all right where it's like i don't you got there is there is some uh conversations on if theo and joe got

Trump elected. There's a lot of dialogue on that out there that people believe that Theo Vaughan and Joe got Trump elected. And so... Yeah, it's reasonable to say. Yeah, some degree. I mean, they definitely helped. And, you know, Joe's alluded to that. He's kind of after Trump won and then there was a lot of positive support behind Trump. And it was before, you know, he did this. Epstein 180 and started to kind of lose faith with people, you know, a lot more people were excited about it. And he was happier to kind of take a bit of that credit for it. Now I'm sure he's wanting to kind of take a bit of a step back. But yeah, they definitely played a role. Yeah. And it creates this debate between Theo and Joe. That's what was interesting about

this episode as well, how there was a lot of push. back from Joe Rogan and Theo. Like they seem to clash on a lot of things. Like, for example, when it came to that Homeland Security debate and like them talking about it and what happened and what happened to Theo because of it, Theo argues that social media should be held accountable for radicalization. But Joe disagrees and says it's censorship and it's dangerous. And the thing that Theo is talking about is algorithmic.

radicalization. And it studies that show that algorithms have been pushing extremist content even when the subjects haven't been searching for it. I'm not sure if you're at some of this, but I've gotten this a lot. I've gotten a lot of neo-Nazi stuff on my feed. And I'm like, oh, if I was a dumb 12 year old, I would be, I might be a Nazi by 13. You get some of this stuff on your feed and you're like, where the fuck is this coming from? Where I, believe that's what Theo was trying to say where Joe was like, oh, it's just, it's censorship, don't even think about it, you know?

Sure, sure. You know, so really, basically, they both have a good point now, right? Yeah. So censorship, you know, across the board generally, bad move, right? That's a slippery slope. But also, you know, is it that to just be like, you know, if someone is trying to lose weight and then their algorithm is just sending them pizza videos

all the time it's like well it's a little unfair right give him a chance yeah it's like what's going on here something's not working something's not working or someone's trying to fuck with people yeah yeah i don't know what it is unfortunately so what did what did theo do he got a lawyer they contacted homeland security and he was like i'm like gonna sue you i'm not a hundred percent sure all I know is homeland security i'm not sure you can't i'd be afraid they'd deport me if i tried they're like theo you are argentine and go back sending you to you're going to have to make a new studio in guantanamo bay yeah but yeah it was taken down i know that the video was taken down pretty quick but everyone saw it dude i saw it oh yeah and it's been reposted but i'd actually seen that

clip before um they connected it i'd seen it just like just being posted around what was your reaction to that well they were just talking to someone on the street so i didn't really see it as like him making fun of a deported i didn't even know if anyone had been deported right i thought that he was just joking with some fans so i didn't think about like for me when i first saw it it was completely out of the context of like ice so i wasn't even putting any of those pieces together and you know i'm saying that as someone that when i was in high school they started deportation or threatened to start a deportation process on me so i was like right in that you know so i could have got triggered by it right it just didn't it didn't hit me that way i was like oh theo's just being funny also i've

met Theo a bunch of times he's not mean at all he's a nice sweet person he just he wouldn't have said anything like that to be mean so i just wasn't even looking at it now as soon as they connected it to the homeland security page i mean it clearly looked like i mean it looked bad look rob yeah oh yeah it's a bad look yeah i mean and you know they put him on there it's like it's not like he was paid to do it right it's like they use his whole thing and it's like no not that he would have taken money for it that would have been a gross way to make some money but it's like they they just put him out there and go there you go I'm sure this won't do anything negative for his life it's like what it's wild who they would think that now I have

a question for you so you look at you look at Joe's responses and you look at his on this episode. So Theo goes, the government is defending billionaire pedophiles. And Joe responds with, isn't Tim Dillon funny? And then Theo goes, Israel killed JFK. And then Joe goes, Elron Hubbard is crazy. Like, what do you think is going on? Do you think Joe just has ADHD? Or do you think he's he's you know in a i don't know positioned in the machine i don't maybe took too much alpha brain that morning um look i mean he every everyone is trying to stay clear of any israel questions right i mean he's not looking to jump in the mix there and then yeah he has been on a bit of a thing about um sticking up for peter and Elon and and like not really getting in the

mix with them i mean he doesn't mind shitting on politicians right now or the government um but yeah he is kind of i you know i think he's just he's getting uber uber rich like i think he's hanging out with billionaires a lot more and he's just seeing them in a different way than i mean they're also they're easy to demonize too they have all the money and a ton of power like it's really easy to make them assholes right so they're probably not as bad as people like to make them out and also they're kind of odd they're all nerds and goofy so it's easy to pick on them for being weirdos and jump in there um the whole thing with peter's thing and palatier it's like look somebody has to create a surveillance system we need it other countries are going to do it we can't

not have one and we can't not have a good one and we should have a really smart nerd with tons of money making it i don't know like what is the alternative to him doing it that's my question i'm like okay it sucks he's doing it maybe he's a bad guy and who else should we have to do it instead? Maybe for in my opinion, the United States and not Israel, you know, like, because that's the big thing with Palantir is that it's, it's, you know, he made it for Israel to like weaponize drones to get, and then ice. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a mess. It really is. And that's a whole thing we can get into with, with the, view on Palantir, which Joe seemed really uncomfortable with.

Yeah, he took a big step back. Yeah. Because that's the issue with Palantir. It's like it is used by Israel. And then it seems like ICE, a lot of people are putting together. Right. Right. And people are saying that ICE is the excuse to implement it into the states.

But what's scary about it is that it's surveillance, but it might be Israel surveilling us. I don't know. Just to talk about real quick, Theo on Palantir, Theo goes to quote, they were getting data on people there and were operating weaponized drones, which is true. Joe goes, is that real?

And then he goes, Jamie isn't even willing to talk on camera. Even Jamie was like, get me out of here now. But then Joe starts to defend Peter Thiel a little bit and goes, Joe, he's like, America needs to integrate drones and all this stuff because China is doing it. But Theo goes, it's just scary to me that the same company that does that is also creating a database and potentially doing the same thing here. so I don't know and it's a mess it really is a mess because Israel has its

fingerprints all over this also if you really want to like you know if you want to get some conspiracies Peter Thiel is all over the emails and you know there's some also conspiracies that Epstein

had ties to Israel weirdly enough Peter is doing a lot for conspiracy anymore or it really is like a fact it really isn't that happened he did i'm just trying to not get a bomb through my thrown through my window um but yeah so it's it's like a small drone just comes up behind you i'm like uh buddy what's yeah uh so yeah it's it's valid criticism and jo's in an uncomfortable position because what do a lot What's the famous catch line of a lot of these guests that Joe has who are tech people? My good friend Peter Thiel, that is the catch line of a lot of these tech people who are on the podcast.

I think Eric Weinstein, he literally said that. It's a line. They all fucking say, not my friend Peter Thiel. They all say my good friend Peter Thiel, as it's like a soundboard that goes off in them. it's a value of honor to say that a billionaire is your good friend i mean listen a billionaire and this is something that you know you should really think about it's like they are kings or queens if they're female like that's how powerful they are like what really sets them apart kings and queens in the past yeah they just owned a bunch of land and had a ton of money

you know but it's like billionaires are super rare and they're They are mega wealthy people, like incredibly powerful. So, and now they have these platforms. If they're cool with Joe, so of course, they're doing everything. And think how easy it would be for a billionaire to impress someone. They could literally just be like, hey, Joe, you want to come to my giant castle with your whole family? I'll fly you there in my solid gold jet. And you know what I mean?

It's like nothing. Everything is free for them. So they can just blow your mind with all this extravagance and be like, oh yeah, you can just stay and borrow my Bugatti and smash it into another Bugatti if you want. And that's fine. Here's a free jet ski. Go have fun.

And now they have access to the biggest media platform in the world whenever they want to talk about anything they want with a positive light and a spin. Yeah, like I had a friend who got 100 of bucks recently and I was impressed, you know. So put that on. times a billion. A billion.

Yeah. They could buy us so easy, dude. It would be ridiculous. Easily. All of a sudden it's you and I just going, our good friend, Peter Thiel. Every episode. Yeah.

And we're looking up everything in perplexity too. He just gave us like a $40 gift card. We're like, our good friend. A wonderful good friend. Yeah, that's how to sell me out. $40 gift card a GameStop. So what is your whole view on Joe kind of deflecting a little bit of when he goes, because I think it might be a little ADHD.

I think it might be ADHD because Joe does this thing where Theo's like, isn't aliens, do you think aliens are just, this isn't a tourist attraction anymore? Don't you think aliens are maybe not interested in visiting? and Joe's response is there's this crazy-ass fucking temple in India do you know about it? So I think there's a bit of ADHD

I do think so because that was a whole thing that happened with that temple in India was just so out of nowhere. It did seem like they maybe both had a bit too much coffee before the podcast started. It did.

So they were a little excited. At the same time, I think the Joe kind of deflecting from Israel comments, what seemed a little, I don't know, seemed a little more than just ADHD, seemed like a little purposeful, seemed like he didn't want to talk about Israel. True. I also think he might have been trying to save Theo a little bit too. I mean, that's a rabbit hole that you might not want to go down. And there's a chance that after this pod, Joe had a bit of a chat with him and

said hey bud i get it like i know where you're coming from a lot of people are talking like this go easy tread lightly maybe maybe don't even go into that direction because you've been pretty stressed out recently there's a lot on your plate don't add to it you know i mean joe's pretty practical like that he's not looking for wars you know that are unnecessary um so it felt like a bit that was going on. I didn't feel like he was necessarily like protecting Israel. He might have been protecting Peter a little bit.

If anything. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, there's those clips, right? What was, what were the two big clips that I pulled aside? Like, how long were Israel

keep us alive? And then they turned it to Israel, Adisania, like, you know, a good recovery and then the whole Palantile Israel drone thing um yeah i mean he kind of wouldn't let it go and i think he's it's so had to drop it exactly and i think this is a part of his mental breakdown because again where did it start started with charlie kirk and a lot of criticism directed at him politically and charlie kirk gets killed he starts looking into it's hanging out with kent s owens which he says

who's definitely planting these ideas into him he's starting to freak out he's starting to become self-aware what the fuck did i get myself into this is crazy i don't know i think he's starting to like kind of wake up to the world because the whole peter teal thing a lot of these tech guys uh israel there's there's a lot of debate and a lot of good evidence that some really slimy evil is going on. Yeah. And, you know, I haven't been following Candace too closely, but, you know, you see her on, you see clips of stuff that she's getting into and, and, um, uh, yeah, she's,

she's going down her own rabbit holes. I mean, she's blowing up. Her show's getting massive, which is giving her a ton of confidence. And, um, you know, it's kind of like supporting these new directions that she's going. but as she does that and people get close to it like Theo and you can imagine that these conversations are going very much one way

it's not like Theo is hanging out with her bringing a bunch of like news and knowledge to the table it's like Candice is spilling it all into Theo's ear and you know that's going to have an effect it is yeah and someone like him he's going to soak that all up like a sponge

really I don't know where He needs to take a break. He needs to go on vacation. And I don't know where this is going to lead him to. I don't know if he's going to flip politically, if he's going to really be, because he is a massive platform and he might become a big voice against Peter Thiel,

Palantir, Israel, because this whole Israel debate is becoming a bipartisan issue. You see Nick Fuentes talking about it and a lot of liberal voices on the left voicing it as well. So we'll see what happens. We'll see how much of these big players join the fight in that. But I don't know where this is going to lead Theo.

I don't. Do you see where this might, where the trajectory might lead this to? Because do you think he's just going to calm down and be like, all right, time to reset? I think he's going to take a step back. I mean, right now on Spotify charts, Rogan is number one, which is,

you know, that's usual. Um, this past weekend, number four, Tucker number five. So Theo's podcast is like top four, top three in the world.

What's two or three? Yeah. Um, no, right now it's, uh, says Spotify anniversary. I don't even know what that is.

is and then good hang with Amy Polar so but you know here's the thing sometimes these newer ones that um I don't know if that one is new but I haven't heard of it sometimes they get like an unusual boost just because of like their growth metric can be high that's how Joe gets so occasionally kicked off the number one spot it's not necessarily because someone actually is bigger than him it's just part of like how they put the metrics together I believe that's what somebody wants kind of explained to me

but yeah either way I mean it's it's just that this is like that's a ton of focus on him and you know Theo Theo doesn't have the same kind of stability

mentally as Rogan does like Rogan is built for this type of attention like he can navigate it well I mean even with the big um ivermectin cancellation thing

followed up by the NWood video that came out like two weeks after that yeah I mean he navigated it like a boss honestly that must have been a huge amount of stress and it was like oh they're coming for him hard and he just took a deep breath and I'm pretty sure he said

he just did some mushrooms for a few days and he just weathered the storm and got right through it. Other people, it's a lot harder. Say what? Maybe Theo has to do that. Take some mushrooms, fucking relax. Yeah, I don't know if that would be

the best idea for the... I mean, Theo is, he just struggles. He just struggles with a lot of pressure. And like Joe said on this, this pod you don't always know how Theo's feeling like this that was a big part of this pod that I found really interesting there was like this really kind of sweet moment of friendship between

the two of them where Joe is like I often learn more about you from podcasts like how you feel and like where your mind is at he goes that's why I like to check in with you because I don't always know like I'll see you in person and you're like yeah yeah I'm cool dude and then later on he finds out that, you know, Theo's been really struggling with some stuff. Yeah, that's a dangerous thing to be dealing with, that you can only open up on a platform like that. It can be hard, yeah. It can be hard.

It just means you're carrying a lot with you, you know? And, but, you know, he's gone through, like, his AA and a bunch of, like, addiction type things. So he has these tendencies. and at least he is good at searching for that help in getting out there

and finding that support but yeah I think a lot of pressure like this is a lot for him I'm glad Joe's close to him and I'm glad this episode actually happened because it gives Joe a chance to really I would love to have seen

some of the behind the scenes of Joe just being like hey bro let's go to dinner tonight let's have a real chat I just got to check in with you. That would have been great to hear. Again, to be a fly on the wall for this episode, I'm so curious what some of those conversations were like between him being like,

yo, Peter Thiel might want to keep your fucking bow shut. Also, at the same time, like, let's go to dinner. Everything's going to be all right. Well, that's why we need some of those palliated drones. We can stop flying them around. Actually, yeah, flies on the wall. Yeah. listening to people also man i mean overall what was what was just like your sense of the whole

episode and and really like where theo was coming from like um Theo was definitely coming from a place from anxiety it all this was stemming from anxiety for sure everything the future of humanity israel the united states where he is and all of this it's all coming out of anxiety it really is he's really having like almost a mental breakdown and i just kind of saw this as like a therapy session between friends like going crazy and having all these fucking thoughts in your head and then going on a platform like this talking your friend your really good friend and be like hey uh i think this is going to happen and this is going to happen and just like letting your anxiety speak instead of really thinking about these

and what you actually have to say about them. But I think when it comes to a lot of the things that are coming out of Theo, there's a lot of truth in it at the same time. And I think that he is very, it's very deserving inside. Like he, it makes sense. I feel like I understand where he's coming from and he has a good reason to be anxious because everything that's been going on in the world. Unfortunately, this whole Palantir, Israel, debacle, just seems less and less like a conspiracy by the day.

So he has a really good reason to be anxious as well as like the future of the world. And the fact that Joe is like, don't worry, worst case scenario, Skynet will take over. I feel like maybe won't chill Theo out. I think if anything, now he's even more anxious. Yeah. Well, they ended it with, I mean, Theo is like freaking out about the state of politicians and how much they will suck. And Joe's solution is, oh, I think AI will take over and just make decisions for us. And I'm like, is this really the best we have?

This is the best we can hope for right now? It says so much about Joe, doesn't it? That he's just, he's fully into it. All the Elon stuff. All the things. he is like i'm in i he's almost Elon level of like just fucking uh transmit my consciousness into this computer fuck it like the whole even the Peter Thiel the transhumanism stuff where they even talked about the whole Peter Thiel thing of like where he's like should

humanity survive and he's like um uh huh um the guys like yes yes if I could should it should what are you talking about you know and Joe's like, well, sometimes he has to think about and carefully, it's like, yeah, dude, but we talked about this on an episode prior, but it's like, just say yes. And then go for that. Just say yes.

Just say yes, and then think about it. And also, also just be like, it is odd. It's hell. Like, sure, fine, you like to think about things. I get it. But that was weird. And it didn't look good, dude. You can't put humanity on the backbone. No.

Yeah, it was an interesting episode. And honestly, you know, ever since I heard about his special, like, really, I've been worried about Theo. Yeah, yeah, uh, same. And this really cemented that for me, because even before this episode, I was nervous. I was like, God, I wonder what he's up to. I wonder what's going on. Like, even watched, uh, some of his podcast to just, like, see what's up. But this is when he really just fucking cracked open.

Like, he really cracked. open and yeah i wonder if we see more of this that's what i'm really um anticipating whether he just closes up completely and pretends like none of this ever happened or leans into it and becomes even more anxious about it and where this past weekend just becomes like a tim dillon show oh yeah ranting and he's talking about palantere he's talking about peter teal dude even even tim dylan is on his show now he is starting to bash a lot of this and call it out so i don't i don't see a lot of people have flipped for sure i don't see rogan doing that i'm not sure how you feel about it but i think rogan is a lock for his positions right now

yeah time will tell i mean but who knows things are changing so quickly like if if you know some big developments come and they look really ugly. We'll see where he goes. But anyway, good episode. Check it out. God bless Theo. What do you rate it? We love you to death. And what did you say? What do you rate it? Oh, man, I was into it. Like, I was really, it was very entertaining for me. Honestly, I give it an eight, solid eight as well. That's, I've been thinking out that the whole time, eight, solid eight. Right. One of the best episodes. Very entertaining, a lot of drama. Um, that's what I like.

Like it. All right. Excellent. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you. Yep. Um, be thankful for all the kettlebells, smelling salts, alpha brain.

All the complexity. Yeah. There we go. And well, 50 cent AI, of course. Yeah, not nowhere to be seen on this episode. So go listen to many men. That's how busy they were. Have some turkey.

There we go. All right, guys. Take it easy. Bye. Thank you.