Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 493 JRE Review of Shane Gillis

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

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This might either be the worst podcast or the best one a whole time. One, go. Enjoy the show. Your babes there. She's probably. You got a good dad now. At 18. Yeah, but then that's when your fanhood of college football becomes greater.

Uh-huh. You go, dude, I get three hours on Saturday. I can't fucking wait. Who do we have? Oh, fuck, it's Central Michigan. Fuck. It's going to be a blowout. Whatever.

I'm going to have beers. That's good stuff. And then you golf. Then you get to golf? Then you go, fuck, I suck at golf. Who goes to shit? I'm getting wasted. It's a good life

I'm jealous of it does sound like a good life but it's also a difficult one for sure but that's the best life is it? Yeah good difficult

yeah it's the point why is it why is good and difficult the best life that's what makes uh that's what makes going to that bar so fucking sick you know what I mean having a shitty job shitty job

You sit down and you go, bro, let me tell you about how shitty my fucking job is. Yeah. You go get fucking hammering. Three beers in, you go, my job fucking rules. My life rules. That is Shane Gillis at his best, talking about what it's like to have a shitty job and have a few beers. And then all of a sudden life is a lot better. I like it.

And, you know, what I love about that, and that's just Shane just, describing something just off the cuff. But it's a breakdown of why his comedy is so good. He just has a real feel for like the kind of unwrapping of what everybody understands about what's going on around you in the simplest way. He just he just sees the world like that. Yeah, he's also just so in touch with people. You know, he doesn't seem like he's so far away.

from reach especially some of those like Kevin Hart specials yeah where he's like isn't it like so annoying when you get that eighth car and you only have five garages where Shane Gillis he just seems like just the just the best dude to drink with sure yeah he just seems like such an average dude and that's what makes him so funny he's never going to tell any jokes about how annoying it is to take a shit in a gold toilet he's always going to be a regular dude that wears t-shirts that he looks like he found and hoodies that are just, you know, barely fit him. And it's just he's a regular dude that happens to be worth probably $50 million.

A quick update with Shane. Some big news is coming. Big success for Shane. A major collaboration with John McKeve McKeever. that's it, signed a huge Netflix deal. Have you heard about this, Brandon? I did. Kicked off for season three of tires.

Of course, they're co-creators, executive producers, the whole thing. What's wild about this is because nobody would invest in this show to start with. So Shane had to put up all the money and backload it with future tour date money because they knew he was good for it. The fact that the show took off, now he is just banking everything. And he would have happily given other investors a big chunk of this. And now none of them get a piece. Along with this deal, which is awesome, there's like, I think three more comedy specials set up.

There's, I think, a movie in the works or maybe a couple of movies, a possible another season. another series that they have. I mean, I don't know how big this deal is or how much this is worth, but to put it in perspective, the last season hit over 25 million views. They just know it's gold. You know, everything with Shane is gold. He sold out Madison Square Garden. He did the Philadelphia Lincoln Financial Field over 60,000 fans in attendance. Can you believe that for a stats, up comedy, dude. 60,000 people. That's insane. It's just so insane.

And the fact that Netflix is just handing him the keys to the castle. They're like, take it. Do whatever you want. Movies, shows, specials, porn, whatever you want to do will host it. Mostly porn. It's just so crazy to see. It's incredible. But it makes sense. I mean, it does get to a point where it's.

so clear that an investment makes sense that it's like, yeah, just pay anything. The stock price just gets to the point where it's, yeah, it's through the roof, but you're still not going to lose. They're not going to lose. Yeah, it's honestly just exactly like that. And it's so interesting to see this deal happen because Louis CK got like almost the same exact deal right before he got canceled in 2017. It was like three specials. I don't think there was like a new show that was going to happen as well. Yeah. And it's just crazy to see that Shane is like, wow, he's there now. Yep. So if I have one piece of advice for Shane, please do not jerk off in front of any other comedians. Please. Just don't do that one thing if you can. Please. It would look so stupid

of doing that. It'd be terrible. It'd look worse than Louis. But think about it. I mean... Yeah, as long as there's no Ken Burns documentary happening in the background, I think he's fine. But talk about, you know, going in different directions. I mean, you know, or multi-talent. I mean, he has...

When his show ties comes out, it went straight to number one. So that's a number one show series, comedy series on Netflix, right? So that already puts him in like the Chappelle kind of category of number one in stand-up, number one in comedy TV series, right? But then also, he's number one in podcasting, which is another area. I mean, Rogan is still number one, but I mean, the Matt and Shane show is like a massive podcast.

Yeah, and with this movie coming out, if this movie takes off and it's, is just amazing and excellent, the doors fly open. Like, then Shane is on a whole other level. And he can act. He's good. He can. He can. But it's like you have this mainstream audience who aren't comedy fans.

And I feel like Tyre is as much of a successful show as it is. It doesn't really, it's, it's, you know, when it comes to the very average, like older, family they're not watching it i don't think no but with a movie at that point it's like you know who this guy is yeah and if this movie blows up and is huge and then he starts getting asked to do other roles and then it gets to the point where oh i'm seeing it because Shane's in it and i saw this movie with Shane and he was hilarious so anything with Shane i'm going to see yeah if that happens who knows i i'm very excited for Shane's career who knows who knows What's going to happen?

Didn't they have Vince Vaughn in Tires in the last season? And they were both at the bar together. And I think that was like a little window into what it could be seeing Shane next to like a big actor. And it's like, does this fit? You know, it was like a little feeler. Like imagine him up there with like one of the top guys. Does it look awkward? Does it fit?

And it did. It worked. And it's like, yeah. You could put him up there with anyone, and it's going to be smooth. It's just how do they do it? What's, where is he at, right? What kind of movies does he go into? And I think he can pull it off.

I don't think Tyers really test his acting, per se. You know, a lot of it seems very like the office, almost, or like the British version of the office, kind of. Like, I don't know if you saw that one, but like the Ricky Jervais end. But, you know, more so like the Budweiser commercials are more on that end of better acting for him. And he's got the chops for it, I think. It'd be interesting to see. He does.

And I feel like with everything we're talking about where it's like it just sounds like a guy that you're drinking at the bar with that comes off in his acting too. He's just so likable. he's just some dude that you hang out with when you go to the dive bar throw some beers bag watch some football with him he's he's just he's so likable and he seems like everyone's friend and everyone wants that kind of friend yeah yeah even in this podcast even on his appearance like i just felt that i really felt that like you're just hanging out with him sure like just how he talks it's just so casual and he's just such a chill fucking dude. Yeah, like you just show up and you're like, oh shit, Shane's here, sweet. And that's, yeah, we're going to get hammered. We're definitely drinking some bud light. I mean, but that is, that is a lot of the way, I mean, especially when I watch Kill Tony, you know it's a good show when he's on there. It's just like he brings a different level of quality to whatever the energy is going to be for that performance.

Like, you don't always know with the panel. Like, sometimes the panels are just duds. And then you're sat there for however long that show is, like three hours. And it's just dead air for panel-wise. It just doesn't really happen with Shane. He's always got something. You just got to hang around for it. He brings the end.

Just how he talks, like how he interviews the guest is so funny. Some of the funniest It's brilliant Like some of my favorite Interviews from Kill Tony Like Oh my God When he's Trump dude

And he's like Unbelievable Remember the one where he's like interviewing this guy And this guy like collects bugs or something And he's like You're fucking the bug guy It's so funny

So funny That one is Is by far the funniest Kiltone Of all time It's It's ridiculous to watch. I mean, it's too funny.

Like, I can't even. I probably watched that one like four or five times, and it still just cracks me up every time. I can't believe they pulled that one off so hard like that. And even Adam Ray really shows up. What's cool, do you know they barely knew each other too before that? No. Which is really awesome.

So, like, just the way that they work together through that. that whole thing. Just knowing that and going back and watching it and being like how well they were riffing off each other. I mean, just brilliant. Yeah, him just being like, I just shit my pants is so good. Like some of the lines and the chemistry. Clever stuff.

I mean, that was just some brilliant comedy all the way. Yeah, I mean, he's on fire. It's undeniable. And, yeah, he brings it. He brings it. to Rogan for sure. Yeah, let's jump into some of the elements of the podcast. I mean, look, the big standout for me is something that's been kind of ignored,

and we might as well get into it. It's something that I think people have been skirting around on the Rogan show for a long time, but Nick Fuentes came up, and he really hasn't. I mean, he has a little bit, but I mean, it was directly, called out between the two of them. And what was brought up was the Pierce Morgan interview. And specifically just kind of how Nick wiped the floor with him in terms of just overall appearance of debate.

Now, I'm not saying one person was right over another. Obviously, Nick is very controversial and said quite outrageous things. but in terms of how like perception and and like kind of aggressive interview style, Pierce really did come off looking pretty ridiculous after that interview. I think Pierce was the wrong guy to make Nick look bad. I think that a better interviewer had all the ammunition they would need to highlight some ridiculous points that Nick was making. and Pierce was completely outgunned.

And Rogan and Shane highlighted all of them. Yeah, a lot of people underestimate Nick for sure. And he's just very confident and funny, undeniably. And even they talk about that on the podcast. But Pierce Morgan, I think he just had his guard down. You know, I have opinions about him as a person for sure. But he's a dog. I think he underrated Nick.

And I think like he got blown away. Blown away, dude. Yeah. I don't know, you know, it's interesting to think about. It was like somebody that plays chess playing against somebody playing checkers. That's what it seemed like. It was just a slaughtering. And I mean, when Shane said, and what you forget is Nick is hilarious.

Now, remember, this is. Shane Gillis, probably the most populous stand-up in the world right now and one of the funniest people alive, saying this about a person who is not a stand-up comedian. He doesn't say that lightly. Like, he thinks that dude is funny. I mean... That alone is a hell of a compliment to have just on the internet, to have in it like the ether of all this, of Shane Gillis saying, he's... funny as fuck is crazy. So you add that to his ability to debate and the rest of it. I mean, that, you know, that as a tool going into these sorts of debates just means that at any moment,

if he doesn't like the way things are going, he can just completely collapse your side of the argument with a riff that just is a mic drop. And he can do that over and over and over again with a massive closer. It just makes it impossible. This is, probably why people will not debate him at all. Like, they want to say it's because they completely disagree with everything he says, which I'm sure they do, and they should for a lot of reasons. However, I think then it makes a lot of sense to go debate him and make it very clear why he's wrong.

That should be easy then. Well, Nick Fuentes did say that on his show, he said that he's like, I don't get this. Why are people afraid to talk to me? It's like if I'm crazy, if I'm this lunatic, if I'm so wrong, how about you talk to me and, you know, make me look like the idiot I apparently am or the crazy person I apparently am? So I get that point of view, but back to my point of it's just Nick is so confident and funny where I've seen them debate people, political figures where I and commentator. and podcasters where I'll agree with the other point of view and not Nix, but Nick's comebacks and he just adds such like humor to it. And it's like that actually is like fucking

hilarious. And he does kind of have a point, but it's, I don't, it's a mess. It really is a mess. And I think having Nick on Joe Rogan is such a shitstorm. I don't think Joe wants to do. I don't think it's going to happen. You don't think so. I really don't. I do not. I don't think Joe wants that to happen. I think he he wants to talk to Nick, but he also doesn't want the shit storm that's going to follow it. That's true. Nick Fuentes has shat on JD Vance so hard, like very like calling his wife things, calling him things. He hates the administration.

He said some insane things. Jordan Peterson also like is. terrified of Nick Fuentes and is shitting on him all the time. Jordan went on Rogan to, it seems like specifically make it clear to Rogan not to have Nick on. You said Grooper. Yeah, without necessarily saying Nick's name, but like kind of trying to describe him in a psychological way. And it seems pretty clear that's what he was doing. I think though, that since that's now pretty clear and plenty of people have made videos about it, if anything, that might be an encouraging factor for Joe to have him on.

Because I don't think Joe likes the idea of people telling him who not to have on his podcast. It's one thing for Joe to feel pressured who to have on, but if there's one thing for sure, he does not like the idea of being told who not to have on. If he chooses not to have someone on, like if he takes a break from Alex Jones, that's up to him. If he takes a break from, you know, Sam Harris because he's like, you know what,

I'm not feeling Sam at the moment. That's up to him. But if he's curious to talk to somebody and people are telling him not to or he feels that pressure, I don't think that that's the Joe Rogan that you and I know and I don't think that's the Joe Rogan that became popular

and that we have grown to kind of, like the audience and the fan base have grown to like, you know? And I know it's a headache for him. I know it can be a headache. But he is also Joe Rogan. He's the guy that kind of sets the standard for like surviving those waves. Like he's not out there purposely picking these battles.

He didn't want the, the COVID battle. He didn't want to like necessarily fight this, you know, the Ivermectin thing and all this political stuff. He's not looking to do it. He just is that much of a voice to where these news agencies and media come for him. But at the same point, he's curious. He wants these conversations. He doesn't like this whole idea that people get platformed or de-platformed or don't have a voice or whatever, and he wants these conversations. I mean, he's able to kind of get the information out of people in a way that almost no one else is. And I know he gets criticism for, oh, he doesn't push back and he should and this is bullshit or that is, you know, the wrong

way to do it. It's like, hold on. Why are people telling Rogan how he should interview? How about you just become more popular than Rogan and you do the interview the way you, you want. I don't think that's unreasonable. You do you. Let him do him. It's like he's not criticizing you. He doesn't complain about the way Sam Harris does interviews, but Sam has a whole lot to say about the way Rogan does it. And it's like, sorry, dude, you're just not as popular. And maybe you're not as popular because you're just not as interesting. I hate to say it. I know you're a smarty pants and an academic, but maybe most people don't really care about that. Maybe that's a bit boring.

Maybe you're a nerd. Sorry. Like, what do you want? Fucking nerd. Well, I think it's definitely a fork in the road here. And if Joe does have Nick Fuentes on, it really changes a lot of topics and a lot of hot debates because a lot of people are calling Peter Thiel, Joe's handler. I've seen that going around a lot. And Nick Fuentes very openly hates Peter Thiel and has criticized his sexuality, who he is, the Israel ties hates Peter Thiel.

Now, if Joe has Nick Fuentes on, what does that say? Because to me, that says that Peter Thiel doesn't have Joe Rogan under his thumb as much as people say he does. But do you really believe? Like, how do you think that that works? Like, for one, is, like, is Peter Thiel paying Joe Rogan directly some money? Like, how does that power dynamic work? Where is the, like, how is the power transfer working, do you think? If you had to speculate.

That's a great question. Where's the influence? And that's a question I want to know because, it's just very suspicious that it's like for a while, not really anymore, but for a while, it's like every other guest would have that quote. My good friend Peter Thiel and it was a lot of people like Brett Weinstein,

for example, there were so many people featured on the podcast who were just like associates of Peter Thiel. And it's like, what's going on? Is Joe just super into Palantir and super into Peter Thiel? or does Peter Thiel have a little bit of an influence here? Right. Because when we go back to the Theo Vaughn thing,

remember when Theo starts criticizing Palantir and Jamie shuts up. And even Joe stops talking. And Theo goes, I'll move on. Like, something's going on. Something is going on. I don't know what it is, though. I don't know. I know.

You've been on this one for a while. And I think they're probably. is something there. No, I'm, I'm feeling it too. I think there is something there. But also, it's like, he's already really good friends with Elon. How many fucking billionaires do you need to be best friends with? It's like, and what happens? You know, is it like, oh, you can't text Peter anymore if you have Nick on? It's like, I think, I think Peter wants, like, okay, so billions of dollars are very powerful, for sure. But in the world of me, and voice and kind of getting your message out there, in a sense, you could look at Rogan as being,

he's like a billionaire of media voice. No one's bigger than him. So wouldn't they equally want to kind of kiss his ass a little bit? Because when they have a message, they, with all their billions of dollars, they can't buy an audience bigger than just showing up on his show. And in order to do that, they got to be cool with him. Yeah, well, that's why I see why Peter Thiel would want to have an influence with him because to kind of like get in ahead of his audience. Oh, I get why he would want it. Yeah.

I just don't know how he necessarily can get it. That's my question. It doesn't seem like a lot of people are taking the bait, you know, like even with Zuck, I think that's the best example. of like you go bohunting bro yeah he did

I think I think Rogan and him are cool enough I think they can text but yeah he's not he's not kissing Zuck's ass anytime soon

no no he's not taking him hunting not at all not at all but I think the whole point is to kind of like what I see a lot of these tech people going on Rogan the whole idea

to kind of just, they want to be humanized to the general public. They want to, they want that element of, I'm not a, I'm not a robot. I'm not this big evil guy. I'm just a cool dude. And hey, maybe Palantir is something you might want to invest in and support. Because look at me, I'm talking about my day to day life. I'm talking about my diet. And me and Joe Rogan, we're getting off here.

We're having a great time. I'm just a normal dude like you. And I think this is what a lot of. of people want to do. They want to like, it's what Duncan Trussle tried to warn Rogan about way back. Sure. Where it's like, don't you fear that some of these big people, some of these maybe evil people are going to take advantage of this platform. And Joe's like, I just want to hug them and do acid. But I don't know. It's, I think time will tell when it comes to a lot of this stuff. Because if Fuentes does come on, who knows because that tells me a lot. That really tells me a lot with what's going on.

And I think as of lately, especially with Tim Dillon coming on and kind of like talking to Rogan, don't you not want to shake hands with these people so you can openly criticize them because you're a comic? And he's like, you kind of do it of a point. And then Theo comes on and is like,

you know, Palantir's like super evil, right? and all the shit they're doing. And Joe's like, huh, I guess I didn't know that. It's kind of hard to believe. But I see some gears turning. I do. And I think we're entering new territory.

And I feel like the last like few episodes we've kind of talked about that of we're leaving a certain era of this podcast and entering a new one. Yeah. Yeah, no. That's how I feel. I'm not sure if you agree. No, I do. I do.

I think something is shifting. And I think that a part of it, look, I'll say this for sure. If Nick comes on, then that is an exclamation point on no one owns Rogan. Because nobody that could wants him on. And even a part of Rogan doesn't. And if he gets him on, that's the old Rogan just being like, I'm all about just having a conversation. He knows that a hell of a lot of his fans would be curious to hear that conversation.

A lot of people would be curious to hear it. Yeah. Now, it's interesting because I thought looking at Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, that the reason Joe Rogan didn't have Kirk on the show is because of political differences because literally after his death he came out. It was like, hey, like it sucks he died. It shouldn't have happened. I disagree with some of his politics. Now, Fuentes is a little more controversial. Oh, yeah. Maybe a lot more controversial. And Joe already said a thing that he doesn't agree with. Do you think if Fuentes does come on that he will push back? And he will push back. and at what level do you think he would?

I think Rogan will, I think Rogan will try to dissect some of his more controversial points, for sure. Yeah. He'd be like, for sure, he'd be like, why do you say that about women? I have three daughters. Are you going to say that about that with my daughters?

And Nick's going to have to explain himself. Rogan's a tough dude and Nick's a smart guy and I think that they're going to have a real interesting conversation and I don't know I think it would be good man you know these are

I think it would two excellent speakers I mean look you don't have to agree with either of what they say you don't have to think that either of them are either intelligent or whatever I know a lot of people have

a lot of people have a lot of people think Rogan is a dumb person, right? I hear this often from people that are not fans of Rogan. I do not believe that to be true, right? Rogan is clearly not a dumb person at all, right? He is a very good speaker, commentator and definitely podcaster. Now, Nick has massively controversial ideas, of course, but he is brilliant at debates.

You can separate those things. And it's not like a compliment to say all of him is good. No, there's things that he's doing that are wild the way out there. But he also, there's a reason he's popular. And then you get them both together to hash out their ideas and to figure out where they're coming from and what it all means. And that, I think, is what some people like Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson and a lot of people that don't like Nick Fuentes are very worried about.

Because, I mean, going on Rogan and humanizing yourself and coming off looking good like Trump did, I mean, it got him basically elected. Plenty of people have given a huge amount of credit to that. I mean, that is massive. That's massive power. And a lot of people are worried that that would do that for Nick. not make him the president, but make him far more popular than he already is. Because there's a good chance.

There's a good chance he could come on, do very well in that conversation, you know, navigate these ideas and even the pushbacks very smoothly, have some mic drops where he just pulls off some great things. I mean, it will be potentially a lot more work than Pierce Morgan for sure. but you know Joe's also more fair in a lot of ways and they give him more of more of a chance he's not going to sit there the whole time like gotcha gotcha moments he's not going to be playing clip after clip trying to catch him out I mean he's going to give him way more space and if he leaves it sounding very reasonable in some areas I mean a lot of people are going to be sweating for sure definitely definitely he's going to have to like keep a mental note of okay who fucking hates

me now who i've had on the podcast because a lot of people really hate nick fuentes anyone on the left hates hates that guy yeah so probably half of the right yeah he and yeah exactly the entire right as well i'm surprised that Anyone is liking him. Honestly, he's good at upsetting almost everybody. He is, he is. But that's kind of the appeal, though. Yeah, kind of.

Where it's like this guy, he doesn't get any shit from anybody. He does his own thing. And that's why I like him. I think literally the only person he hasn't insulted is Joe Rogan. It's like the only guy left. Literally, yeah, literally the only guy left. And I think because he kind of wants that exposure. And Joe has said things that I know Fuentes would disagree with.

For sure. Especially with the episodes we've seen. There's so many things Joe has spoken about. And I think Fuentes isn't even going to react to Joe talking about it because he doesn't even want to touch that. He wants to just sit there and say and just think, if you want to have me on, I'm just going to sit right here and do my thing. because he doesn't want to blow his chance. That's what I think because this would be such a massive moment for him. And I think this would make him like very, like very,

maybe not mainstream and he kind of already is nearing or arguably mainstream with how popular he is, but it would launch him into a totally different stratosphere. And I'm not sure. how I feel about that. But I will say this. That will be one of the most entertaining fucking podcast I will ever listen to. The two of them talk.

There's a reason we just spent almost 15 minutes talking about a clip that lasted three minutes on the podcast of three hours. And it is because it was important. They probably discussed it before the podcast because it is one of those hot topic things that, you know, Shane's smart enough.

He knows how podcasts work. He knows Rogan. He knows the breadth of this show and how big Rogan show is. And he was like, hey, can I bring up the P.S. Morgan interview with Nick? And Rogan's like, yeah, bring it up. Cool. You know, we won't stay on it for long, but bring it up. Also, Rogan's like, let's test the water a bit.

And from that little clip, I've probably seen at least five videos that have been made online reflecting on that clip breaking down all different angles of this and what it means and whether Joe I have him on and what that could mean and what the backlash might look like and I mean you know Joe can create his own analysis just with those little clips and he knows it Joe's fully aware of that he doesn't even need to do his own market research he's that popular that he just can say like one or two lines and sit back and just let the internet take care of the rest for him. Yeah. Also, the whole idea of Joe being like he could be the president one day is like any kind of

clip farmer is like that's there it is. Yeah. That's that's the fucking clip of the episode. And I don't know what that says for me because you would kind of think you would want to be walking like you would think he would maybe have the mindset of i'm going to walk on eggshells around this topic saying that he could be the president like who knows who knows what's going to happen you know i think i think what he was saying with that clip is like who knows what the world looks like in 20 years right who knows what people are thinking what the ideas are how things shift

He's already talking about how these younger generation that are like picking up steam behind Fuentes are not paying attention to the Tucker's and the Pierce Morgans and that's becoming pretty clear that that's kind of like the old garb. They're the boomers and they're fading out. There's this new group coming in and not saying that they all are listening to Nick's kind of ideology. but he is definitely rounding up a big chunk of him. And there aren't many people around Nick's age that are also garnering their own massive following. So that's an example of it. And it's like, hey, who knows what that looks like in 20 years, right? Maybe this is a warning. Maybe this is just whatever it is. It's like, stand by.

That is true. You can kind of interpret it. anyway there's there's many interpretations i think you're right though that that would make a lot of sense and hey speaking of the president or a president should we jump into uh some of the the trump talk on this episode because the the plaques the rob riner tweet just a lot of good trump talk especially when shane's on the pod Yeah, well, first off, let's start with, you know, these two guys clearly were pro-Trump before the election. Rogan played a big part, really, in getting Trump elected.

And we know he was back and forth on whether he should have Trump on. He might be questioning that now. I don't know. But maybe not also. And we know that Shane probably was leaning that direction for sure. And now I think they both sound pretty fed up with him. You know? They, they sound quite frustrated like many people that had backed Trump.

And, you know, they're saying he's doing some crazy stuff. And they were quite open about the criticism. Yeah. Yeah. I really like the Trump talk here and I see the political shift for sure, especially in how Shane's talking about him. And Rogan is a little slower on it because obviously he has ties to Trump still with Trump calling him. I feel like he maybe had a whole hand in the weed, the whole week. the whole weed legalization movement going on right now

because it's something he's talked about in the past but it's interesting to hear them start to like really go after Trump like the Rob Reiner thing I think was like a really good example of that of being like yeah that's like just fucking not cool it's not cool dude it's not cool at all it's not cool at all like there's just no excuse for it man he was not controversial at all anyway it's not like he was in jail for sex crimes and happened to have done some good movies in the past and then dies like maybe there's an argument to be like yeah but he sucked it's like what did he do

he lightly criticized you and then was killed by his kid like it's just it's that it's inexcusable man it's so brutal it's so brutal just say nothing like like where's your humanity it's crazy because like as the president you're kind of supposed to show an example of hey even though we disagreed on a lot of things. He made some great movies. He made some great movies. And no one should be killed by your kid. Exactly.

Wow. Maybe you should be present. I'm wrong. But it's just so distasteful. It's so disgusting. I mean, do you think there is literally even massive Trump fans that still, even after all the Epstein bullshit and not releasing this and that and all the rest of it. All the other promises that he didn't come out with and, you know, the embezzling that's clearly going on

and all the shady, you know, money that he's making just left and right for his whole family. And, I mean, do you think that anyone that's holding on and still just worshipping the ground that he works on in the war? on in the Trump world was like, no, that's a good tweet. Like still was like there. I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. They're like, that's cool. That made sense. They're like, oh, he was an asshole, you know? He had it coming to him. Like, I've seen that. I've read that online. I've heard people literally verbally say it.

Because at this point, if you're in, you're in. Yeah. I guess if you're left, you're like the, like you don't even have to think of that point. You just pick. someone to be your king and you're like whatever they say is I bow yeah the the the Trump train the Trump cult you know whatever you want to call there's people who just there's nothing he could do where it's bad or you're upset with it there's nothing and it's crazy to me that especially with the plaques where it's like what are we doing even Shane Gill is compared it to like a an African dictator. It's like,

what the fuck is going on? Yeah, the plaques are wild, dude. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's,

it really is like an episode of the Simpsons. Like in the old ones, you know, that were like clunky and kind of funny, but mostly goofy. It's like, season four to eight. Exactly.

Yeah. Where the plaque exists in, in like Mr. Burns' office. And they've changed the picture to, the autopan. And it's like, yeah, that's kind of a joke, but it's so ridiculous.

Like, that wouldn't even ever happen. No, it has happened. It's called the end of 2025, and this is real life. In the most prosperous country that ever existed. Yeah, and he's like, he's also starting to like rename things in Washington.

It's just, it's, I can't believe it. I really can't. because there's a element of it where it's like it's historical you know and whatever kind of memes you like however you like to fuck around you have to at least be like all right this is history and I shouldn't fuck with that but dude the plaque literally says the worst president in history under the Joe Biden thing and that he stole the election as like this is history This is a historical record. I don't know.

I don't know. It's crazy times. How are we supposed to take anything serious? These are the people that make us pay taxes. And they're like, you need to follow laws. And then they do that. It's like, hold on. So we have to be serious.

And then you do this. Like, this is bonkers. You guys are, this is like a clown show. Yeah. And I agree with shame. It is arguably funny. I would say that. It is arguably funny.

But I agree with Shane where it's like who else would do this? Like even on the left, like what is the counterpart here? Because I don't see a counterpart. I don't. I don't see someone in the left or even right now on the right going to this extreme and doing these kind of things. Do you remember that mayor in Canada? I think he was a me that was like caught smoking crack

remember this story was a while ago I think so yeah it was like literally filmed he would like film himself smoking crack and he was actively the man like this guy was smoking crack and was the man I don't think he did stuff like this no because this is like insane

this is like not to say it's it's very dictator like but it's very dictator like dude like to kind of determine what world history, what the history of the country is. I very much disagree with Joe Biden. He did a lot of bad shit in my opinion. But yeah, he was pretty annoying. For that to be his official plaque, it's like, this is crazy. Are we like only a year into this term? Oh, dude, yeah. One year. It feels like 15 years. I don't know. We got three more years of this. Dude, we got three more years of this.

We're going to get official Trump history books. It's going to be crazy. Do you know that this summer, and they talk about it, this summer, they're going to have a UFC event, the biggest one ever, on the lawn of the White House. You know this,

right? Connor McGregor is probably going to fight, and so is John Jones, who is the greatest goat fighter of all time, and it's probably going to be his last fight I mean, this is bananas. Just think about what that means.

I remember someone told me for the first time and I was like, yeah, dude, I've seen idiocracy too, you know, you don't have to bullshit me. Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, fuck, what? This literally is idiocracy too. If they made a sequel, this would be it. You don't need a script. Happening right in front of us.

Just turn the cameras on. I'll be honest, though. UFC event at the White House is the most like American fucking shit ever. Like, uh, Teddy Roosevelt was, it was in like fist fights with, uh, professional fighters in the White House. Mm-hmm.

You know, it's so American. It's just such an American thing. Yeah. But it's, it's also like fucking bat shit. It's nuts, dude. I don't, I don't even know what to think. It was, I don't know. It, yeah, an incredible way to end the year.

I mean, we're moving into 2020. now. I think having Shane and Joe just kind of like take us out and send us into into 2026 and just be like, okay, what are we got? Where are we going with this? What's next? What are we first to think about? Yeah. Hold on tight because things are getting weird.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's end it with a little bit of online fan reaction. We looked at Reddit X. Others, kind of YouTube comments, the rest of it, just a big mix of it all. Some called the episode classic old school Rogan mix, storytelling. People liked it, you know, historical sports, politics, discussions, that sort of thing. Humorous.

And some said kind of unfunny, which, you know, I think because Shane's on there that you kind of expect more in the way of comedy. You know, like it would just be a comedy roast hour. but that's not really what Rogan Rogan show is, you know? It's like, I think you get that when it's protect our parks. You can expect it to be funnier and sillier. But when it's just Shane and Rogan, I think you have to just understand

it's going to be more of a conversation. Can I read the top comment on YouTube for this episode? This makes up for having Tom Segura on the 11th. day. 18,000 likes. I love it. Top comment. But I enjoyed it.

I thought it was a good episode. Should we get it to the ranking? Let's do it. Yeah. So, shit. I'm going to have to give this a six out of ten for me. Like,

there was some good moments, but I feel like there was a reason why we talked about like three subjects on this whole podcast. for the whole time. Like, they talked about dolphins and other things that were interesting, but I feel like there were some, like, slower moments. And it just seemed like the classic Joe Rogan going over some of his political topics just with some Shane commentary in there where Shane didn't really get to riff all that much

because Joe was really controlling with the direction of the conversation. but I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good episode and there are some fun topics on here and there were like some good laughs. I thought too, but yeah, just pretty solid above average. I'd say a six out of ten. Yeah, I'm with you. I gave it a six five. Six point five. Same kind of thing. You know, maybe it got a little extra boost because it was Shane and they brought up a few points that I was really curious that they would get into. So, you know, that, that, that, that, caught my attention, and there were a couple of clips that I really liked. Ran it through the algorithm and overall Reddit ratings, 7.5 out of 10, mixed, but generally positive. A little higher than I expected, actually. But overall, solid engagement, even on X, and yeah, generally high. So people liked it, you know? It was a solid episode. quick update I know over the new years

there were a lot of especially on Spotify there were a lot of comments about where's the Boneyard one because he usually finishes the year he usually brings in the year the Boneyard

I actually messaged him on Instagram his name is John just to see where he was and how things are going is saying that we missed him on Rogan. He usually kind of ends out the year

and wanted to check in on his health see how he was doing. I know last year he had pneumonia and had to skip for a few months on Rogan. But he said he's doing fine and he's healthy and some things came up and he's just

waiting to reschedule with Rogan. So he'd be back on shortly for those out there wondering where he was at. But that's what's happens. So shout out to John. Good man. Shout out, John. But that's it for us for this time. And thank you all so much. We appreciate it. And we will talk to you shortly. See ya. See ya. Marketing is hard. But I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host.

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