Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 511 JRE Review Jim Breuer

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

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What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one a whole time. one go enjoy the show hey guys and welcome to another episode of the joe rogan experience review joined today by my buddy brandon how you doing bud what's up great to be here yeah good to have you here this week we have oh the legend that is jim bruea love this dude he's great isn't he yeah as a metal head he's open from a Metallica a few times.

Has he really? Awesome. He has. Yeah. And he's pretty funny. A lot of conspiracies in his head. Famously. Every time he's been on the show, it's been really just like, whoa, really crazy stuff.

And to get into kind of the fan reception here, a lot of people had that impression of like, all right, we get it. Like, relax. Mm-hmm. because some of his conspiracies are like really out there. But I found this episode to be actually pretty good and pretty tame. You know what I mean? I feel like a lot of the things they touched on were like, yeah, like that makes sense. Like there's a pretty good possibility of this conspiracy you're talking about is true.

Because this is the world we live in Adam. I think the only people who aren't eating good are the flat earthers. Right. But you never know in a month. there might be a new Epstein file on cover. Where it's like, hey, have you been to the ice wall yet? Like, who and everything's coming true? It's crazy.

But a lot of people who did like this episode did praise Jim for just being really authentic here. And that's something that definitely came off on this episode. For sure. I feel like the Bigfoot people are still being left out too. Yeah, exactly. You're talking about me. Yes, you. I feel very left out, unfortunately.

You have your time. It's coming. It's coming. I think Epstein right now is sharing a cell with Bigfoot wherever he is. Yeah. Well, first off, talk about Epstein still alive. Maybe. Let's get into it.

Come on. They start right away. They start right away with Epstein. Now, let's just get this out of the way. Do you think he's alive or not? What percentage would you say? Is it a 50-50? You know, this is a...

Realistically, this is a lot of where I join Sam Harris's camp of logic. Because really where he stands is with that type of thinking and why he doesn't often go down the route of conspiratorial rabbit holes is he's like, you know, the most likely explanation you know, is the narrative that already exists. It's like the thing that is said to have happened is what happened, right? Because everything else is more likely to be far-fetched, even though it's fun to think about and there could be some level of plausibility.

But realistically, think of the levels that would need to go in to get him out of there and hide him and put him somewhere else. Sure. Is it possible? Yes. Are there things that are starting to line up? Potentially. But in my mind, it's low.

Okay? It's low. It's like maybe 25%. However, in this case, and everything that does seem to revolve around the Epstein files, when it comes to conspiracies alone, as conspiracies go, this one does seem to be a bit of an outlier because so many things are really bizarre and often have been coming very true.

I say we go over some of those things. I really do. Now, you're 20%, you said? 20%, 25 maybe? 25, but with an asterisk up there. So I'm at about 85%. Oh, damn. So, okay, let's just, let's just talk about it. Okay. And so here's some crazy evidence right here. So in the Epstein files, they did scan some of the line paper that was like on his desk, I guess. And it's just a bunch of scribblings. He had terrible handwriting. And there's just a bunch of like random notes everywhere. And one of the notes says, uh, jail out equal 10. Huh. What, what's that me? Jail out equal 10. What does? What does? 10th represent. August 10th, weirdly enough, when his body was found. Huh. What the hell does that mean? So there's also evidence that the FBI went after a prison guard at the facility that held Jeffrey Epstein. So here's a whole thing. It's a 4chan thing. Every conspiracy leads to 4chanter, right? Good ones. So commonly used by whistleblowers, though. fortune. And on a political board, a day before Epstein's arrest, a user posted, don't ask me how

I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging, posted 40 minutes before any coverage. I believe this was scrubbed from the internet, but there's so many screenshots of this going around. And then an anonymous user then added to the original message in a thread right after saying, not saying anything, please do not try to dox me. but last night after 0.4.15 count, they took him medical in a wheelchair, front cuffed, but no, not one triad nurse says they spoke to him. Next thing we know, a trip van shows up. We do not do releases on the weekends unless a judge orders it. Next thing, we know he's put in a single man cell and hangs himself. Here's the thing. The trip van did not sign in and we did not record the place.

plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to the tower guard who led him through the gate you guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched them out this uh was taken down and like i said earlier there is evidence that the fbi went after a prison guard so why would the fbi go after a prison guard potentially for maybe whistleblowing here now let's keep going down this rabbit hole. All right. So the Epstein files definitely has a lot of information about Jeffrey Epstein's accounts. Yes. Right? Emails. Also, his YouTube channel, little as Jeff one. Maybe not the most original name. Maybe he's talking about his penis. I think that's probably the case with

little as Jeff one as a username. So they found out that is his YouTube channel because he purchased the move, right? Probably the Lorax or Space Chimps, something you might like. People found out the same username exists as a Fortnite account. So,

okay, maybe a coincidence, right? Little is Jeff one. Anyone could use an account name like that. It's very vague. So the account activity on Fortnite showed that the biggest gap of playtime in the account's history pairs exactly with the lead up arrest and death of Epstein.

maybe another coincidence, right? Who knows? It's a weird world. And a few days after his death, the little as Jeff account resumes playing. Weird. Ah. Strange. Within days of people knowing this, the account was scrubbed off the internet. Fortnite came out and clarified.

Fortnite came out and said something about it. Claim that there is no history of any of Epstein's emails in the database. okay so Fortnite just cleared it up there's no evidence of any of these emails in the Fortnite database then why in the Epstein files are there receipts to V-bucks

the currency that you need to pay for with real money on Fortnite that doesn't make any sense there's evidence he was playing Fortnite in the Epstein files so either that's a fake Epstein file, which why would that be fake or Fortnite's lying?

Do you think they asked, like the FBI would have said, hey, Fortnite, you need to say that he didn't play Fortnite? Then they were like, sure. Probably. Also, though, I think what also happened was there is a list in the Epstein files of his emails, because he had a lot of emails. Shime is changing the way people bank. Chime isn't just another banking app.

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And I do think little as Jeff one was his Fortnite account. Weirdly enough, still the playing time exactly pairs with his prison time. Weirdly enough. Maybe after he died, a hacker got into the account and started playing. But the Epstein files weren't released yet. How would they know that little as Jeff one was his account? and why would they even want to get into it. I'm thinking 85, man.

It's looking weird. It's like all these things are lining up the 4chan thing. The whole idea where the FBI is going after, some of the prison guards legally, and, you know, the post on 4chan being like, hey, I think they swapped them out, unmarked fan came in, and we didn't get a plate number.

It was all just really sketchy, and then he hangs himself randomly. the next day. Also, you see what he hanged himself with? Have you seen the picture where it's just like a ribbon? Yeah. It's like, no way. So I never thought I'd go from, he hung himself, he didn't hang himself, he's alive.

To 85% sure. That's pretty sure. That's like a solid B. I think, I think he's chilling. I don't think he's being tortured like, like Jim was to, talking about, but I think wherever he is, he's drinking my tides. He's on the battle bus. Yeah, it's more like what Joe said, I think. He's getting taken care of quite nicely, rewarded almost for his services and just chilling. It just seems so sloppy that he would

log into a service again, unless he's massively addicted. How old is Epstein? It's like in his 60s, right? There's evidence in the Epstein files he was like a gamer. Like he played a lot of video games. Okay. And it's just like little as Jeff one, which was an account

name he used as evidence in the files. The fact that then like a random Fortnite account had the same exact account name. And by coincidence that that coincidence pairs exactly with his arrest,

and then a few days after his, I think maybe a couple weeks after his arrest, he starts playing again. So he was 66 in 2019, which was almost August 10th, 2019 is when he died. It's almost seven years ago. So he would be like 73 now. like that's that's like seems old to be playing fortnight right how good is fortnight i've played it like once it just seems annoying maybe it's really cool i don't know Jeffrey Epstein has a lot of preferences i definitely don't agree with

and uh fortnight is definitely one of them for sure that you don't agree with right okay it's uh yeah but maybe it's all also like a signal too. It's like his way of letting certain people know, but it's, it's one that isn't enough of a signal to where it's like clear that he's alive because it's like, there you go. But maybe that was his way of being like, you'll know I am because I'll use this account again and people will know. Like a message. Yeah, I don't think people would think, though, that just some random account would be found

in the Epstein files, like a Fortnite account or something. Also, they didn't know. It's not like they sat him down and like, hey, so we know you play Fortnite. Just don't play Fortnite because people might connect your, like. So to be clear, just to be clear on this point, that actually was his account that's been found, or this is a guess? So this is his, this is a guess. This is a guess, but it just makes a lot of sense. The dates line out.

It's also random that, like, then if it's, if it's not his account, why did Fortnite scrub this account off the internet? Also, this account, the plan information can't even be found on archives.com. You know how hard it is to scrub information off, like, internet archives? Ooh. Why did, you know, whoever did this go out of their way to that extent to scrub this if it's just some random player. Just some random coincidence. Sure. Why did Fortnite make a statement? Why was all the information scrubbed off the internet? Eighty-five, man. Okay. I think 85%. I'm not sure if that changed any of your

thinking, but I really, like, this dude, we know as civilians, was extremely powerful. potentially he can he can pretty much crumble governments with some of the information he has like they were saying on the podcast they're not just going to throw in some random like drunk tank

yeah they're not going to throw them in some cell like they're going to they're going to put this guy behind like they're going to vault this guy right that did seem strange that it's like throwing

I'm in with this murderer and then also the cameras went down and also sloppy, sloppy security and yeah. Also there's evidence of Cash Patel lying. So, okay,

he, like, he lies. What else is he lying about? Like, he also said on his new podcast, I can't believe he started a podcast where he's like, yeah, there's some information that we just need to, like, keep safe. Like, what's good for society. Oh, Cash Patel

said this? Yeah. Wait, he has a podcast. He just started a podcast. I think he either resurrected his old one. I forget who it's with. It's someone who's I think ex-FBI. What? Yeah. It's like

it's like, what are we doing, dude? I don't know. You shouldn't be allowed to have a podcast if you're like actively allowed to have. the FBI be your girlfriend's DD when she gets drunk with her friends have the FBI escort her around to bars. I think that's a little bullshit.

Also, to take an FBI plane to fly out to see your girlfriend's concert. I think it's maybe a little abusive when it comes to that kind of power. Also, like, hiding the fact that one of the biggest pedophiles in the world is still alive. I think that's also a big no-no. That one's not cool. Yeah. I don't like that last one, for sure. And also really, you're playing Fortnite at like 70 years old.

Like, who are you? There we go. There we go. Well, the autopsy and the prostate thing was glaring to me. And if that's true, I mean, there were emails saying, you know, you have low TRT because you don't have a prostate, right? And the email back is him saying, yeah, that's right. I had it removed. And the autopsy says that he had a prostate.

So what is that about? So who's lying? It can't grow back. Right. So that's very strange. You know, you would have thought if they're faking autopsies or, you know, faking a body, they would also put somebody in there to do the autopsy that, knew what to put on the report to match what was expected from Epstein, but maybe they didn't even

know that he had that removed. If they didn't have his updated medical records, they would just have to assume that maybe people don't look into things quite this much. Because... Exactly. Or maybe a more realistic approach is maybe he was like, well, I can't come as hard, unfortunately, so I think I'm going to get a prostate transplant. That doesn't exist. You don't think so? I don't believe it does. You don't think he can pull some strings?

It's just not a thing. It doesn't matter how much money you have. They don't have that. They grow ears on mice. You don't think they can grow a prostate on a mouse? I don't know. Listen, Biden's a clone. There's lizard people.

What is impossible at this point? Well, let's talk about that. It is funny how they circle back to tall Biden. And I haven't thought about tall Biden for a long time, but when they played that clip, he once again did look unusually tall. What was going on that? Did they just want to see if they could get away with having a six-foot-eight Biden for a minute and be like, I wonder what would happen? How will the news deal with this and will it just blow over like anything else? Like what can we get away with? I saw that footage recently and I'm like, oh shit, barren. I thought it was baron Trump. Who else is that tall? Biden who's like seven, seven foot. It's insane. And then I watched some

videos and saw some comparisons standing next to jail his wife. And it's like, what did he grow? Like it's it's obvious. It's not like here's what's tough about things like this. where it's all about perspective. You know what I mean? Where a lot of people are saying, well, he's taller than Jill. It's like, well, Jill's like, you know, 30 feet in the distance. That's why.

But you can also see pictures where he's standing right next to her and where her eye line is compared to Biden. And there's a few pictures where she's next to him and that eye line seems to change compared to Biden. What's that about? Yeah. And the film of this is like slightly from, underneath too and he's in front of everybody else so it could just be perspective and angle i mean

it's hard to know with that one i don't know but i he does look unusually tall yeah i mean is that enough though and what would be the point what are you even doing if you if you if you are replacing him for a day for some reason why replace him with somebody that happens to be six inches taller. That makes no sense. You've made his face look the same. You've made everything else look the same. You can't get his height correct. Unless you're testing us to see if we can figure out height differences. It just seems like a really bad move. This really isn't passing the Biden sniff test. Also, I want to say that in the Epstein files, there is some talk about this. So what is that about?

What told Biden? Like, yeah. What does it say? So apparently it's talked about Biden was killed by a firing squad in 2019. What? I don't know what that's about, but that's mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, connected to that is, uh, is, is Epstein saying this,

the mask malfunctions on Biden are. getting worse every day on purpose. This will end badly for Redacted, who is posing with a clone on Facebook. Okay, so that's in the Appstein files. That's an email that I believe is

that is being sent by Jeffrey Epstein. Also, Trump made a post about it on truth social. I will pull that up right here and it reads this. All right.

Now, listen to this. Okay. Okay. I'm listening. On truth social. This is, this is on truth social. I believe it was deleted by Trump. Trump says there is no Joe Biden dash executed in 2020. Hashtag Biden clones doubles and robotic engineered soulless, mindless entities are what you see. Hashtag Democrats don't know the difference. That was posted on truth social by Trump. And then I believe he deleted. it. But what is... I put my hands up at him. I don't know. This is one where I just don't know. I don't know what to say about this. So that was the beginning of his term? So they would have executed him at the beginning of his term? Is that what it's saying? What did Biden do?

Well, maybe he did cheat on that election. So then they, according to this conspiracy, that you're bringing up, maybe that's what it was. And they were like, yep, you, we found out. So now we're off in you. And we've got to just put this robot in for four years and deal with COVID. Here's what I don't understand. Exactly. Here's what I don't understand though. So you've seen those interviews with Hunter Biden, you know, whatever your thoughts on Hunter Biden are, wouldn't you be a little fucking shooken up if your dad was replaced and you're just in an review being like yeah my dad's a great guy I love talking to him he's going through a lot right now but like how do you say that with a straight face and you're you know someone might listen to this and

be like we'll buy it a hunter's crazy he's a crack addict he's he's mental he's unhinged yeah dude then like that should have come out in the interview of him like being like they something's wrong uh I think my dad something happened to him like he's talking like, yeah, you know, we were hanging out the other day. It's all good. Unless what, he's a Fed. Like, Jill Biden as well, she seems pretty chill with the clone. What's going on with that? Yeah. Like, so, so say this is true where it's a robot or a clone. Like, why is the family seem like nothing's changed? Well, also. Are they hypnotized? Are they drugged? I don't know what's going on. Well, we could see his cognitive decline during his term.

Why would you have some sort of clone or a person replacing Biden slowly have cognitive decline over a term? I mean, you've replaced them anyway. You would just have them function almost more effectively. Like that doesn't, unless that's all part of your plan as well. Yeah, but Epstein is saying the mask malfunctions on Biden are getting worse every day on purpose. I don't know. If we're going by this line of thinking where it's like on purpose, why? I don't know.

What would an email like that possibly even mean? Let's just think in the more sensible literal sense or even joking sense. Like let's say they're joking around, right? They're just rich people joking around. about people. Mask? Like, what could you mean metaphorically a mask? Like, he's putting on a face, right? So he's being two-faced. The mask that he's putting up is malfunctioning. Okay. Yeah. Now, with that, then the next line, let's look at the next line that says on the email. This will end badly for Redacted who is posing with a clone on Facebook.

posing with a clone on a face. Now what's the metaphor there? You know what I mean? I just, it's just, I don't know. Like, I'm looking for holes in this. But the only holes in this are, it's just too crazy. It's just too crazy. It seems fairly literal, writing.

Right, yeah. You know, I guess you could take that as all just kind of metaphorical, but it seems quite literal. the way that it's written. And the fact that a name was redacted as well, and that is weird. Oh, I wish we knew what the name was, because then you could look up that photo on Facebook. Yeah, maybe it's the same guy who did Jim Carrey. That's a whole fucking can't work. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so the whole truth, social thing I think is weird, too. I don't know, do you think Biden's a clone? Again, I have to go down that. Sam Harris line of just being like the most likely answer which is no is and the most plausible is yeah I mean since I've seen no evidence of real clones and we betan you know we say that we can't make them and even if we could making one and putting it in the place of something else under the scrutiny of watchful eyes and pulling it off it all seems like way too much out of the capacity of our capabilities.

So other than a really fun story in a great sci-fi movie, I can't imagine that would be possible. It seems far too unplausible. I agree. I'd say I'm at 25%. On that one? Yeah. Okay.

So far more on Epstein being alive. Way more likely. I think it's getting to the point where, like, I hate doing research on the because it just scares the shit out of me. You know? Because I'm always looking for holes, even though it maybe doesn't sound like that and like how convinced I sound with some of this,

but I am always looking for holes when it comes to this kind of research because it's like it's so insane. And you don't want to just like chase the high of knowing something that everyone else doesn't. You know what I mean? That's the fun of conspiracy theories. But this, it's like, shit. like the whole Epstein where there's a note that says jail out equals 10 like what the hell does that supposed to mean except I get out of jail on the 10th when they swap me out with a body and I play

fortnight because though they did play some video of him inside and he didn't look too stressed or bothered at all maybe he's just an infinitely chill individual but it seems like that would a pretty stressful time in your life. You just went from island owner, multiple massive mansion owner, all of your freedom, well connected throughout the world, to incarceration and possibly looking at no escape ever. And you were just freely chatting about what just happened, you know, when you're getting some sticky tape from someone and someone tried to kiss you. exactly to look at it in a non-conspiracy way

which is crazy to say this because maybe he felt that way because he thought he was going to get off and then someone came in and murdered him which is what happened is it not a conspiracy anymore to just say he was killed well that's what they say happened

so then it wouldn't be because because he didn't hang himself somebody strangled him Yeah, like even in the autopsy. I mean, if I was to believe anything, I would think that is more plausible that he still is dead, but it wasn't a hanging. But even then, I'm still more likely to believe the original coroner than anything. Because again, it just lines up more likely to be true.

She's still alive. Yeah. However, Joe talks about that other autopsy guy that they brought in and said that the injuries are more indicative of somebody that was strangled. Yeah. So that one's a tough one. It's weird. But who knows? He's kind of like a TV autopsy guy. So, you know, I don't want to take anything away from his abilities to do his job. But it's a great way to drum up a bunch of clickbait. and a good story is to have an opposing determination. I agree. Yeah. It's weird, man. I don't know.

The tape and the fine lines, like, I want to believe he was killed, but, like, I'm seeing way too many coincidences. With Tall Biden, I think maybe he's just a crypted

and maybe not real. But Epstein, I kind of don't want to research it anymore because every time I do I think fuck he's playing Rocket League right he's he's chilling it's almost you're making vodka crans you know yeah it's almost too too depressing and too exactly too bizarre but some good news is though in all of this Joe and Mark Merrin. The battle that I thought would never end. Uh-huh. The hatchet, the axe, has been buried. What do you think about that? Well, what do you think happened is my question. So Joe said he reached out because he needed to help Maram with something. What do you think

that was and how do you think that came about? Joe didn't bring that up. So it sounds like Joe is happy to just kind of keep that somewhat private, which I respect. I don't understand that, though. Well, it may be somewhat of a personal issue. Maybe it was something to do with his podcast. You know, Marin is, did he stop doing the podcast? Yeah, it's over.

It ended with Barack Obama's episode of a few months ago, I think two months ago. Oh, so Barack came back on for another one? for the final episode. Okay. And, you know, I just don't know what specifically Joe wouldn't offer. Like, why is it specifically Joe that can solve Mark's problem here? That's just where I'm...

Yeah, that's true. But if I just, if I think, am I too in conspiracy brain? No, no, no. That's reasonable. I look at something like this and I'm like, I got to connect the dots. What is Joe specifically? you know, but I think it's just brainstorm, let's take a guess. Because Joe said it.

I don't think Joe's lying. No, not at all. Not at all. Like, it was definitely something where Joe himself had to reach out to Mark Merritt for something that specifically he knew how to solve that Mark had a

problem with. Is it podcasting stuff? But at the same time, it's not like Joe produces. No, he might just have some connections somewhere for something. Maybe you just wanted to hook him up with Jamie for Jamie to help him out with something related to the podcast. That's something else. I mean, Marin can get a hold of his own producers and editors and things.

I mean, Jamie's very busy. You can't get Jamie for that. It would have been something else on a more like, I don't know. And, you know, there's a bit of humble pie in there. I mean, the fact that Marron would even kind of, I don't know, what would bridge that gap? Because there has been some energy between the two of them. But it sounded like Joe was the one that reached out. Yeah. And that's cool.

And then Mark sent a message of being like, hey, man, I'm sorry. And sent this long message. And Joe's like, it's all good, man. Dude, to have Mark on the podcast. Let's go. would be a great episode. It would be amazing. That would be the episode of them reflecting on this and talking about it.

And I would love to see Mark kind of just be honest with Joe and like, hey, I do have real feelings about what you're doing when it comes to the comedy scene and just Joe and Mark kind of hash it out. I think that'd be awesome. Is that going to happen? I think there's a more likely chance that Biden is a clone. than Mark being on Joe Rogan's podcast. I don't think it would be impossible. I think it would be a great conversation. I mean, Marin's obviously good on pods,

and I think that they could really hash it out and have a good conversation. I'm sure Marin misses being on shows, and I think Rogan could even have great advice about how he could start his show back up, and Maron probably misses it. You know, there's probably, like, a good avenue there. So I ran it through chat.

and I said, have a think, have a guess, like what it could be. And it said, yep, it was that episode, Jim Brewer. Rogan had to help him with a problem, had to help him with something, inform him about something. And Mark said, thank you. Give him a heads up. Rogan clarified the misunderstanding, the feud, what it's likely to be.

Deep, personal, medical therapy type. problem. Rogan's wording is, in form, not talked him through, and the public framing is more about being cool and not having enemies than about personal crisis. So it's kind of impossible to pin it down. We don't know. It's vague, but that's a shame. I just, I want to be nosy. when rogan when rogan doesn't want to tell you though he's not telling you like he's all about that it's probably something personal

yeah i get it i get it too but we're nosy we like to know that's that's the point like it's this podcast is practically a conspiracy podcast at this point so it's i feel like

I am in that mindset of like uncovering the truth and this is something that I do want to know about of like what really went down what was that what did that message say to joe i also would love to know more about that but hey i'm just i'm just glad the beefs over you know it just got fucking annoying well i mean joe talked about it and it's and it's interesting he's talked about it before it's like look it's easy to get jealous it's easy to be in that position you know we've all done it someone's doing better than you or you just wish but again if you could if you can

catch yourself and realize it's a waste of energy. You're tiring yourself out. You're not thinking correctly. You need to change that as soon as you can and get yourself on a better path. If anything, it's like just turn it into admiration. Don't turn it into bitterness and jealousy. Just be like, okay, they're doing better than me. How are they doing that?

Like, I'm inspired by this. Maybe I should work harder. You know, what's wrong with my approach? What do I need to do to do better? Maybe I could learn from them. You know, it's, it doesn't need to get you down. And it's also okay that you think like that right away for a second. Just don't hold yourself there for too long.

I mean, Rogan talked about it when he was talking about Chris Rock selling out stadiums in a day after the Will Smith slap. And Rogan was like, it takes me like two weeks to sell out a stadium. That's bullshit. And he had to catch himself and be like, why am I being such a bitch about this? it's like yeah that's normal to have a feeling but it's a smart move to catch yourself like if you stay there for too long hold that bitterness for way too long which it sounds like mark marron has a tendency of doing i mean it probably does result in things like your show collapsing over time i mean how big was mark marron's show for a long time huge yeah it was

really big. I'm not sure exactly whether the show just ended because of viewership. I know he did talk about publicly how he just wants to end the show. Did he say that? I don't know if he did, but you could tell on the podcast charts. So when

before Spotify bought up charitables and you could see where the charts were, my show started charting higher than Marins. For real. in the top 100 Apple podcast, I would slowly watch my show take over his as his like dropped out of the top 100. And that's like a strange thing to see and to think that he wouldn't have noticed or known.

Like not like he's watching my show, but he's seeing all the shows as he just drops past them. And then every ad comes in that's worth less and less. every check that he's getting is worth less and less, and then he's not getting the deals. You know, Rogan sells his show for $100 million, then $200 million, and then, you know, there's just no deals coming in. Contracts are getting signed for way less.

And then back in, I think it was like 23, Apple came out with this new update. There was a big shift in how podcasts were delivering payments, and it was earlier in that same year, a bunch of exclusive contracts had been made. And then all of a sudden, the downloads for a bunch of shows dropped because of this new algorithm that was set up by Apple,

the way that they downloaded your back catalog. So none of the podcasts were producing at the download rate that was expected. So none of the advertising, or the hosting companies, I mean, were able to deliver the way that they were selling out their shows, yet they still had to pay all these podcasts. So it like destroyed the bottom line. So people that were in those exclusive contracts were doing fine because they had to get paid out on. But a bunch of these hosting sites went out of business. And that destroyed the exclusive podcast deal. setup. Did you ever hear what happened to Theo that whole deal?

No. Yeah, so there were companies that owed him a ton of money. And they ended up, I guess, just going bankrupt. They couldn't even pay him because they just weren't getting paid, but they had signed all these exclusive deals and the advertisers weren't paying him. It was just this whole turnaround from that. So who knows? Maybe Marin was like caught up in all that business too. I mean also Marin was just too stubborn to adapt and change his show like if his show had the three camera format right and was on YouTube and there was a visual and he didn't do that rant before every episode I think we'd be talking about a difference oh yeah like 20 minutes on how he's feeling which is usually terrible like dude if Joe's podcast was just

audio only and it started with like a 20 minute rant of him complaining he would be nowhere where he is now exactly yeah not good not good like seeing the get like people love watching podcast now yeah back in 2008 it was the thing to listen to it like in 2008 it was only audio in 2007 and all that and then joe kind of with his podcast when he started it was like what it's you're videoing it like you're doing a video with this and then it they paved the way and now it it's like mandatory with a podcast yeah like in a lot of ways 95% of podcast are video base uh it's it's funny we're talking about this on an audio only podcast but but that's just the thing for like when it comes to comics i know i need to step on my game and do some in come town

Comtown was Audio only But there we go We're kind of a hidden gem here And I think that's kind of the charm That's it We need upgrade We're probably going to do it

There's going to be some changes Coming up I've got a feeling I've got a feeling Yeah I got a feeling I can't explain it Yeah

Well anyway Let's wrap this one up Jim Burr legend What do you give this One out of 10 Would you say Also The whole comic stories

that was cool hearing about the pool halls and Jim Brewer and Joe's relationship and John Tobin, who I know. Oh, sweet. That was cool. And yeah, for me, I'd give it a seven.

Me too. Yeah, solid seven. I liked it a lot. Yeah. It was good. Well, check it out. There's going to be more reviews later in the week. We appreciate you guys as always

and we'll talk to you soon. Later.