Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 533 JRE Review of Tim Dillon

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Tim Dillon returns to the Joe Rogan Experience for another hilarious and unpredictable conversation. This week we break down their discussion on AI, the media, politics, the future of America, and Tim's signature take on the absurdity of modern life. Plus, we share our favorite moments, rate the episode, and see what listeners across the internet had to say This weeks sponsors Rappin the Rivers: Go to Eventbrite.com or Sellout Events to get your tickets for Rappin the Rivers Festival 2026, August 7th and 8th in Cardwell, Montana, featuring DaBaby, That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, Kid Ink, Young Dirty Bastard, and more. For full festival details, go to RappinTheRiversMT.com. Camping is included. Get 25% off your first order from Zazzle by visiting www.zazzle.com/JRER. Quo: Go to Quo.com/JRER to try Quo for free and get 20% off your first 6 months with the business communications system built so you never miss a call. SUPPORT OUR SHOW! Head to our Patreon Check out our website at www.jrereview.com For all marketing questions and inquiries: [e-mail] Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail]

Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. This week, we are reviewing the legend that is Tim Dillon. And I've got Brian on the line. What's up, Brian? How's it going, Adam? Yeah, good, man. Good. I mean, it's always a good time when Tim Dillon comes on, Rogan.

Yeah. And, you know, we were talking about this a little bit before. It seems like, you know, you said it's a. protect our parks in one episode with one guy. You never know where it's going to go. It couldn't be more than true. It couldn't be more true. Yeah. It just brings everything to the table for sure.

I mean, where did he start? I mean, he was off with, I liked them talking about America versus Europe, right? And everything that we're seeing with the World Cup right now, which is some of my favorite stuff because obviously my whole family lives in England. I have, you know, friends there that have come out here, visited, family, they like it, but plenty of others love to just shit on what America is all about. And I'm always the first defender. When I'm over there, I'm like, guys, I'm telling you, you're wrong. It's great. It's a lot of fun. But I kind of do it, they're so used to it. They just think that I'm over exaggerating.

And they're easy to just brush it off as like, come on, dude, it's not like that. Now, watching these World Cup fans come over and recording videos online that we have been lied to, it's so much better than we think. Air conditioning everywhere, massive stores, the stadiums are ginormous. I mean, I love it. Yeah, Europeans hate us for our freedom. It's so true. It's so true. Dude, it's an amazing place.

The games start and some of them have flyovers. You know, they just have some of the most epic entrances of all time. The big thing that I'm noticing is how surprised they are with how big the stadiums are and how many we have, right? Because usually when an event like this happens, they're either building new stadiums for like the Olympics or whatever. Yeah. We already have all of them.

And we're not even using the biggest ones. Yeah. The college ones are bigger. But yeah. Yeah. And it's just there all the time. All the time. Yeah.

They don't even know what to make of that. I'm like, you won't even see those. Those are huge. Go to Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Well, now you're doubling down. American first and now Texan.

Yeah. Well, I'm in the heart of it. Yeah. I get to see it. But yeah, if it's not Buckees, if it's, you know, I was at Terry Blacks recently at a great barbecue spot in Dallas. They've got one in Austin. I think they have a couple of others.

The place is amazing. The food is unbelievable. It was one of the selling points of me moving to Dallas, honestly. When my wife was like, we're going to move down there. I was like, oh, shit, I will be close to Terry Blacks. That's pretty good. And, you know, we're busy with a move, so I didn't get a chance to go there. But we get over there.

There's this Japanese couple there with their kid, one year old, in the Japanese kit. So cute as hell. And every person there that realized, oh, they're obviously from Japan or a different country, was so cool to them. And I asked them, I said, what's your experience been like since you've been in the U.S.? And they're like, everyone is so friendly to us. It's just so great.

It feels, they're in Dallas. They're like, feel safe. We're happy to go everywhere. We're just enjoying the hospitality. We would love to stay longer, you know. There you go. That's cool. Yeah.

So great. Yeah, Texas is a cool place too. It's a it feels like opportunity there. I'm not sure how to describe that, but if you go there, you just know. Do you know that Dallas just took over Chicago as the third, like, most prosperous city or wealthiest city? Chicago's held that for a long time behind L.A. and New York. Wow. And yeah, Dallas just passed it.

So it's not taking anything away from Chicago. They're still crushing. But, I mean, murder rates awesome. Those cities alone have GDPs of most other countries, you know, and maybe more. I don't know. Dallas was popping off like that. Yeah, I didn't know either until I moved here. Then I was just looking at everything I could to justify being here.

I'm like, is anything going on other than how fucking hot it is all the time? Yeah Yeah It definitely gets warm there Well you know Along with that They talk about the decline of LA Right

So they're both on board with that Obviously Rogan moved to Austin Pretty sure attended Or at least he bought places there So that he has He's a bit of a real estate guy So he bought some spots there So he can perform at the mothership

You know He talked about talked about landing in L.A. and just seeing a car on fire and then that factory on fire, that warehouse, and just the decline of everything. I mean, you've heard about what's going on in San Francisco, right? I don't think so. Well, you know, human shit as soon as you get off the plane, stepping in it left and right, it's just like the, when was, have you been to San Francisco ever. Okay.

I've been through California one time. Well, San Francisco used to have, it used to be a great place, supposedly. And I went in the late 90s, earlier 2000s and then like 2000, probably like 15, 16, when before COVID, you know, so it was on its way to changing. And I can see what everyone's talking about. Like it's a beautiful place. It's like got some incredible scenery, the Golden Gate Bridge. You know, there's just so many elements.

Obviously, like Silicon Valley stuff is up there. And, you know, under the leadership of Newsom, it's just gone completely off the rails. Yeah. And, well, you know, I don't know if it's fair to say, oh, it's all his fault. but he does govern the whole state, and he likes to take credit for what they do well, so we should give him credit for what he does badly. Yeah, it's only fair.

And it's just turning into such a sludge of a place. And I really need to have somebody on the show that lives there to explain in detail, kind of how it's collapsing. But everything I saw with Los Angeles when I left, when probably six months into COVID was just the biggest disaster I've ever seen in my life of any place. Yeah.

I mean, Santa Monica was a paradise when I looked there in a lot of ways. Like, we really enjoyed it. We were doing comedy, you know. We were going out to the beach, going to all the great bar sets, and freedom was like the big theme that was there. You know?

It was like a lot of the best things that America had created, they'd put into that city, and then they managed to just suck the life out of all of those things. Yeah. It's heartbreaking. It is. Well, so hearing you describe San Francisco, it kind of reminds me of Seattle. And, you know, it's set up for success in every way, you know. It's right on the water.

You get the mountains and the backdrop islands. and a lot of cool history, but of course it's kind of being run down as well. You know, my brother actually lives in L.A. right now. And he does not speak doom and gloom whenever we talk on the phone. He seems to be enjoying himself. So I don't know if something has turned around recently or if he's just not going to all the crappy places.

But, you know, talking about, you know, getting out the airplane and seeing a car on fire or a warehouse on fire, that just seems crazy. Like, I'd be like, so this is what it's like to land in a war zone? I mean, what's happening here? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And why is that being allowed to continue? I still have friends out there that are enjoying it. And they, you know, less of the friends that transitioned through COVID.

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have found it harder to find the good after. Yep. Because they've seen that transition. But I have known people that have gone more recently. and, you know, to them make sense. It's new. It's still going to hold on to some of those good things. And, I mean, it's hard for me to go back now.

If I go to Santa Monica, I'm going to notice all the things that have changed that it doesn't have, right? But if it was brand new to me, it's still going to be spectacular. The beaches haven't changed, you know. There's still a lot of opportunity there. There's still a lot of good things. Um, and I think that's what they count on. I think that's what Gavin Newsom's whole setup is, is he's just like, well, we just get rid of the complainers and then new people will see how amazing it is. And I don't actually need to do a good job.

Yeah. Yeah, homeless person shit isn't that bad. Just got to get used to it. It got, it got wild for a while. Just out of control, the tents. Yeah. that's such a crazy thing, man. I've always said, well, not always, but the last few years.

So I never really thought about homeless people growing up in Florida. And then when we went back to live in Washington, so we're in the Seattle area for a few years, I really grew to dislike homeless people to say the least. And it's simply because you don't just not have a house. they are destroying wherever they are. Just tent cities, just crap everywhere. It's like, how can I feel sorry for you when you're actively destroying your environment everywhere you go?

You know? And, but it's such a crazy topic, though, right? Like, it's like, I mean, I don't, I don't necessarily want to live in a place where you got, you know, SWAT trucks rolling around, you know, you can't sleep on a bench and now you're throwing in jail. but there's got to be some, you know, there's got to be some line where you can't just, because now you're affecting everybody else. Sure. And that really was the big thing during COVID is,

I mean, you go on the boardwalk in Venice, there is just a massive line of tents, of people that are homeless or quasi-homeless, hanging in these tents, you know, maybe they're selling some things, maybe they're playing some music, maybe they got some bongos going on. There was just this balance.

You know, we could have a lot of tourists there. People didn't see it as unsafe. And I was there from 2016 to 2020. They weren't, you know, you wouldn't walk down there and think, I can't bring my family down there. You know, there might be a little bit of wacky yelling every now and again. But there was just a balance that worked. And then COVID hit.

They were closing areas. more people were moving, like flooding out there that were homeless and unstable, and it got really unsafe really quickly. Yeah. And that's to your point. That's the part that just doesn't make any sense. It's like I think everybody who's reasonable has some empathy for homeless people. But you can't also throw a brick through our window or run.

up to us screaming and then expect us to give too much of a shit about that individual. It just, it's too difficult to do that. And it's unreasonable. It is for sure. Well, and it's unreasonable for people to have to accept that. It doesn't even make sense. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like, um, uh,

It's kind of like the way that, you know, that I feel about a lot of the trans stuff, you know, you'll see, you know, they're letting some dude be in a women's locker room because he says he's a woman. And they're, you know, fighting his fight, you know, for the sake of his feelings. So it's one person's feelings over 150 users of that locker room. Why are we choosing this one person over the 150? It doesn't make sense. It's all feelings. my feelings, your feelings, their feelings. Why are we choosing this one person over this whole mass here?

I don't know. Because they have feelings are more important, Brian. You're right. I'm glad we had this talk. Yeah, yeah. Well, the worst part is when they don't do any background on that individual. And they realize he is like a, you know, it's like the thing in Korea Town where there was these protests.

And they found out that the... You know, guy who wants to be a lady turned out to have like a rap sheet of sexual assault. Yeah. And I'm like, look, I support your protests. If it's more like you just can't, don't have someone that has a sexual assault rap sheet. Yeah. Have someone that grew up this way, went to psychologists, you know, just did like a real. a transition and wants to be in that room, but this guy was just walking around with his

dong out in the women's locker room. He got banned, and there were massive protests for it. And it just, no, it's not going to work. Yeah, the crazy thing is you and I could sit down with 100% of the people in those protests on a one-on-one basis and just have a normal conversation and they'd walk out of the room like, oh yeah, you know, but you get them all together. It's not even about, it's not even about persuading them.

Like, that's not what I'm trying. But I would be like, all right, if their daughter was in there and got scared from it, I would have their back. I would fight for them if they were ready to, protest without that happening and they would appreciate it it it would be like thank you for protecting my kid that was a really awkward situation i didn't know how to handle it and i'd be like no worries i got your back i'm willing to put myself out there for that yeah it would mean a lot

but no i guess you can virtue signal and make yourself feel better and show up for that and you know, just have a party with it. Yeah, they don't actually make themselves feel better. Who knows, dude. Who knows? I mean, look, this is why Tim is so great. I mean, he's a gay man that isn't anti-gay. Yeah.

You know, it's not like he's trying to run this whole, um, yeah, I don't support different people's way of being. But he has this hilarious, comedic, way of just pointing out absurdity, which is what comedians do. That's kind of their whole job, just to be like, are we paying attention to this? Does this look normal to anybody? Yeah. Oh, it's so, so important.

And he definitely has an exceptional talent for that. You know, they'll be talking about something dark and heavy and he just comes over the top the zinger, you know, and kind of add some levity there. Yeah. I love the part where he was talking about different, you know, different businesses, different industries and asking like, why did they need to be gay? Like, why does my bank need to be gay? Why does my bank need to be gay?

Well, he doesn't need to be gay for a month. He didn't ask for that. What does that even mean? Yeah, I'd be curious. I'd have to talk to some of my... A couple of years ago, my wife and I were planning a wedding. And I had no idea just how much stuff goes into one event. Invitations, thank you cards, place cards, signs.

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But it, in a way, it's like I'm trying to think of an exact like imagine if we all had to be French for a month yeah just to support that or Israeli which might be coming yeah maybe we have you know Israel month coming yeah I'm surprised we got to hey we got to be supportive you got to have the flags otherwise you're a bigot and it's like hold on what is it why are we all getting roped into this. Yep. Yeah. So I think if you were going to ask, so like if you're going to ask some of your gay friends, oh, you know, how do you feel about this? You might need to actually have a little

bit of a conversation because their initial kind of casual would be like, oh, yeah, that's cool. You know, I like it. Like if you said, if we had French day and you ask a French person, they might be like, yeah, that's kind of cool. But then if you start asking them like, how does it make you feel? They're like, actually, I don't care. It doesn't make my day better. it's kind of odd now that you, you know, mention it. I would be interested to see, you know, what comes out of that, out of, you know, 10 people, what the, what the average response is. Yeah, my gay friends, well, they're my friends.

So they've already passed the friendship check. They'd be like, oh, this is nonsense. We don't get to fuck about that. That's not important to them. They're doing other things. It's like, you know. Like, give them the rights that they want, but they're not trying to make a big deal about it because they know it brings like negative energy their way as well. For sure.

It's, it gets frustrating for them. They've, they've got to like start a new battle. And they've been, they've been having a battle against things their whole lives. They don't want that. Yeah. They just want to get on with their lives. Yeah, for sure. Well, and the laws have been passed.

right the rights are there so now they can just enjoy living here like everyone else yeah that's a good point does it give them more rights by having that month is it is it like hammering things home or is it just riling up people that are frustrated and then the answer is this well you're not allowed to be frustrated because that makes you a bad person yeah well doesn't freedom allow us to just be frustrated at anything we want to be. Well, of course. Well, and then you have people like me who I get annoyed if something has already been, like, addressed.

And then I'm like, okay, well, we take care of that so now we can move on. Like, I don't want to, like, if every Tuesday, you're like, hey, Brian, remember that thing? And you want to talk about it? I'm like, no, we solved it last week. We can solve something else now. Yeah. I don't want to continue to rehash a situation. that's been fixed, that becomes very annoying.

Right. Yeah. Let's just get back to the fact that we're all American. Yeah. We enjoy this place and be proud of that. And... Yeah, exactly. Hopefully don't keep fighting about it all.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's funny because in daily living, there is no conflict. It's only, you know, it's always, you know, the media likes to highlight injustices or, or, you know, past wrongs or whatever to, like, you know, rub the wound to make sure it never scabs over, you know. We're all here just living and loving each other and hanging out. And they're like, remember when y'all used to hate each other?

We're like, yeah, thanks for bringing that up. We're friends now. Yeah. Remember why you should be scared of your neighbors? Yeah. Like, I'm not, I'm not. It's interesting, actually, you say that because in the neighborhood that I moved into in Dallas, it's like, there's like, it's super multicultural. We go to the park and there's like Africans with a deep accent, a bunch of Muslim people over there, tons of Koreans, Asians, you know, all of our kids are playing together.

So my little two-year-old's out there, and they're all just, you know, hanging out and they've got their scooters and looking at it. And, but the parents, we're all cool with each other, too. We're all just having a chat talking about what's going on. And, you know, there's just no, there's, you know, some people are quieter than others, but that's, that's a personality trait. That's not, you know, because we're looking at culture. But then you're just watching the kids getting on with everything. and having a blast. And it's just like, it's amazing how much we forget.

Like, we forget to be like this. They don't care at all. And, you know, there's an extra loud kid, and then there's a pushy kid, and then the shy ones. But that's just, it's not cultural at all. So every personality that is within every individual demographic already, yeah, you'll see across the, across the, across the park.

But we're not really allowed to think that. They want to tell us we have to think that way. And then they feed us the news that gets us mad potentially at a bunch of these other groups. And it's like, what? What? Yeah. It's one or the other guy. Can we get on or not?

Yeah, ironically, the people out there pretending they don't see color, see almost exclusively color and tell us about it on a daily basis. Yeah, yeah. They don't like the white ones, Brian. Yeah. The other white ones don't like the white ones. Like, what? I don't get it. They made a big point about, like, the AI stuff that's happening.

I mean, this is always coming up on Rogan, but this is coming up on every podcast and freaking almost every news cycle. And people are getting bored of it, but it's like, it's something in porn that's taking place. I think we talked about it before, like AI replacing the white collar jobs. Like, they're coming nowhere near your work for a while, for sure. Until those robots get.

Yeah. Well, how good of a robot do you think that you would need to be able to do at least the more grunt work that you need on the building site? So, yeah. Yeah, you could certainly develop robots to do a lot of stuff. And you could develop machines that could replace humans in a lot of ways, actually. I mean, I could see a machine that could, you know, assemble a 30-foot stud wall and, you know, 12 seconds and stand it up.

But it's true. I mean, there's, you know, a lot of the trades are going to be, it's going to be done by humans for a very long time, I think. as far as what I do on a daily basis anymore, which is mostly managing projects, ordering materials, scheduling contractors. A robot could do that better than I can. You just put yourself out of the job. That's right, man.

I'm throwing it out there. Take it, AI. You know, now, there's a lot of stuff that I do that is a little harder to replace. but I mean, if you ask me to sit down and, you know, and write a novel about how, you know, robots could take over the construction industry, I think I could paint you a pretty realistic picture. And you know they have people out there doing that.

They have people with your experience, maybe even more, that are like talking to these tech guys and saying, this is how we would need this thing to go. And not just that. It makes me think about, well, they could also change how they build homes to fit within the means of the capabilities of the machines that they bring in, right? You've seen the 3D printing homes that they kind of do. And then that like Lego block system. And it's like, yeah, maybe that doesn't work for everything, but that works for some stuff, for sure.

And how long before they're like, well, we could just outsource all of this stuff. and then it's just drones dropping blocks, you know, and nailing dogs, just those little dog machines just going around nailing or whatever it would be, right? You could just change the way. Because I assume a house structurally isn't just like this is what we need to live in, but this is how we make it based on our arms and legs and how we would put it together. Yeah. But if you had different machinery in there, there was a different shape, maybe more strength, but less maneuverability.

They could package that whole thing out. Yeah. For instance, I mean, even just looking at the bones of a house, you know, that we use wood studs and trusses, we've used those forever. And they're amazing still. Like, I don't see a reason to change it. But if you change the rest of the way the home is built, how it's assembled, and the other parts that go around it, what are we attaching to the studs, stuff like that, you might, you know, wake up one day and go, we don't actually need these anymore. We can use this material or what have you. I don't know.

I haven't thought that far into it. But, I mean, yeah, we've been using, we've been using wood suds for probably as long as we've, you know, had modern style construction, some form of it or another. And I could see that being made obsolete with just a little tweak. Like, we don't cover it in Shirek anymore. We now do this, you know, something that's rolled out or sprayed on or what have you. Yeah. If you ever look to the more European or British construction,

because we do brick out of stone and we build it that way. How much different are houses done that way? So that's a good question. Well, so I grew up in Florida. So most homes are like, at least a large majority of them are block and stucco construction because of the hurricanes. So all your walls, you know, you'll have wooden interior walls, but all your exterior walls just be blocked. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's certainly, you know, of course, the, the day. The downside to block right now with our given technologies, our current technology, rather, is you still need to put furring strips and sheetrock, you know, places to chase your wires and all that kind of stuff.

But, yeah, I mean, there are definitely other ways. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how things change moving up, especially I think the 3D printing technology might be really useful coming up. Yeah. I mean, the way that they can just come in and, and, I mean, what is the deal with the housing shortage in the prices? It's just got to be that building is expensive and we're making more people. We've got to give them houses. So we're going to have to come up with more efficient, cheaper ways to just smash everybody in in every city. So the housing shortage. are generally a localized problem, right? So, like, there's not a housing shortage in Detroit, Michigan right now. It's still halfway a ghost town because no one wants to live there. But there's a shortage here and a shortage where you live because people are flocking.

I don't know. That's a good question. But for sure, 3D printing is, I'm really excited about that. Holy crap, dude. And, like, have they figured out how? to do, have they figured out how to 3D print body parts yet? Do you know, like organs or anything like that? I don't know, but I've been hearing that they are getting closer with that stuff.

Like they're able to, they're able to get some stuff going. And they're, my point is there's momentum in that direction. There's a lot of money going into it, funding. And they're excited about the potential. And what does that mean? Yeah. You know? Like how long before we have a vending machine that's just like new liver go?

Right. Yeah. I mean, who needs to pay $3,500 for LASIC when you can get brand new eyes and Amazon overnight for half the price? Yeah. They're like, you want to see through a wall or not? Yeah. And then you just, you feel like the only asshole. in your group that can't see through a wall.

You're like, fuck. Oh, it's poor Brian with his poor eyes. Yeah. Such a dummy. He only season 3D. What a loser. I know. We call him analog.

Just calling you blind Brian. And you're like, doing my best. Just got natural real eyes. You're like, you're like a sheep. You should be in a farm. I like it.

Unreal. They touched on some of the surveillance stuff of like Palantir. This is coming up a lot. And this is touchy with the Rogan podcast because, you know, he takes a lot of shit for being friends with Peter Thiel.

Yeah. And, you know, kind of being on his side. But, you know, to be fair, he talks as much shit about what goes on in that world than just about anyone that's like, on the very negative side of Peter Thiel as well, you know, maybe just also once again invited to the barbecues because they're interesting.

I don't know. I don't blame too much. You know, I'd still want somewhat of an invite, but I'm not going to Epstein Island. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. But, you know, he's like, yeah,

this surveillance stuff doesn't seem good. Tim talked about the Chinese credit school thing, you know. it's not the credit score but it's like what do they call it the social yeah there we go the social school and also what are they developing here and it only makes sense that they're going to repackage it and they've been talking shit about that system in china for so long but you know they're on the back end watching it happen and being like man they're getting a lot of control over their citizens that looks good yeah how do we repackage it and sell it here.

And I don't think Tim's wrong. I think that what they're doing is coming up with that, you know, cameras and drones everywhere, watching all the things that we're doing. People think about that. Imagine if you had a camera on you all day, right? Now, you could have a positive or negative attitude to it. You could be like, this is super intrusive.

But let's say that you had a massive contract, Brian, to where you now had your own reality show. And it's Brian's construction reality show. And you were like those twins or whatever that build the houses for everybody. And you're making a bunch of money and you're giving back to people and you're doing good things.

But also now you realize you're being watched 24-7. I need to watch what I say, how I behave, what I'm doing. There's a good argument out there that says, well, that's kind of a thing. a good way to make sure everybody behaves themselves. There's a movie about exactly that scenario. I think it was called The Circle.

It's Tom Hanks and Emma Watson. And there's, they essentially came up with a technology where there were just, you know, little cameras everywhere. And she had, you know, one that was just falling her into every part of her life. And, you know, there's no privacy, even with her parents. And, yeah, it's relevant to what you're talking about.

But, I mean, we're essentially doing it to ourselves, right? Everybody's got ring cameras. Now we have meta-glass, which just look like regular glasses, by the way. How do you even know? Yeah. You know, everybody's got an iPhone and or Android, whatever. And, you know, whether they're recording anything or not, I mean, my cameras are, I don't know if it's being used right now or not active.

We know that the microphones are active, right? Because we talk about things and then they pop up on our feeds later. So it's almost like we have funded our own surveillance state just at the consumer level. Right. Yeah. Can I give one pushback and complain about that, though, honestly? Yeah. I know the microphones do it.

I know that listening because weird shit pops up on my Instagram all the time that I'm like, Like, man, I just mentioned this yesterday. But I go to Amazon and shop there far more than I'm proud of doing. But it's just so easy that I always do it. And then I go through the suggested products. And it's dog shit. It's stuff I don't want. I watch all the ads on YouTube when I, you know, I'm clicking around

because I want to see stuff that's going on. And they're just trying to sell me a bunch of. your crap and I'm not saying I want to be more surveilled but at least bring stuff up to me that I want to buy I feel like if there is good as I

think that they might be in my conspiracy world in my reality they don't know me at all yeah I don't want to buy any of this shit Brian it's annoying it's like at least try and say like maybe I want

a retro and NES. Sell me a PlayStation 5 that I probably won't ever play, but there's a good chance I will buy one if you show me a cool ad. They're not even close. Maybe I can't be figured out on a commercial basis, but I'm not that complex. You are algorithmless. No, they should be able to get me.

This is not an uncrackable code deal. I tell you what, it's not. They should be giving me a funnel. It's like I can't tell you how many. Chevy commercials I've had recently. And I'm not opposed to Chevys. Right. I'm like, not, no, I got a car.

Just not Mr. Chevy guy. I'm not going to buy one. I'd love a Corvette. Yeah. But yeah, they just, the Facebook ads are very, they're nailing that down. Yeah, the Facebook ads are very,

very intuitive. They are. Yo, yeah. I literally never go on Facebook. I never do. Maybe I should start getting that same. No, don't start. Well, no, but I mean, just for the power of like things that I'm promoting and also just to kind of like see if they're actually better at doing that, I'd be curious.

I mean, listen, there's a need for me. I need some stuff, you know? Yeah. I do need to get things. I wouldn't mind the good system that is like. Like, by the way, we notice you got this. So you probably need this thing. Or like, have you thought about that for your new home and X, Y, and Z?

I mean, there is a value to an intelligently orchestrated commercial suggestive site. Yeah. I just haven't. I haven't seen one that is all that useful. Yeah. Facebook's pretty good. I can search setting up a podcast studio for months. through all my Google and chat and whatever

and nobody sends me anything useful that I would try and set up in my studio. So now that you've said that, I'd be interested to see what happens if you get onto Facebook because it's pretty aggressive, and I don't mean this in a bad way, but so like I get on to Facebook,

I get on for three, reasons. Three private groups that I go to. I don't scroll the feed or anything like that. I'm not interested. But still, just in the process of getting to my groups to see what's going on, I'll see like,

oh, you're looking at mountain bikes. Check this one out. You know? I'm like, oh, okay. And I have gotten some really good ads that way. So I'd be curious what you might find with your podcast studio. Just talk a little bit more about it today and then open it up

tomorrow see what happens. Wouldn't that be great if this is this is all what this podcast becomes useful for? I just talk about what I need and I'm like if anyone knows more than likely I just get individual emails from people that listen and they're like hey real quick I got I could say your podcast studio off I'm like oh thank you. Do you work for Facebook because this is useful? I appreciate you. So one more quick anecdote about AI.

So one of my buddies, he is a ghostwriter. He's been doing that for a long time. And that was his full-time job. And he very recently was replaced, literally replaced by AI. No. They're like, hey, it's basically taken over this genre, so see ya. And he's like, okay. Guess I'm going to go find an in-person job.

And, you know, he was fortunate. He had one he could go back to. But that's kind of a crazy, that's kind of a crazy. Like, can you imagine just waking up tomorrow and they're like, hey, I mean, there's no one to tell you this, but you just find out essentially Adam. your podcast has been replaced by AI. Yeah. You're like, okay, zero ad dollars after now.

Yeah. You know, that's, yeah. How is he, how did he adjust? What did he go on to? Well, he went back to one of his old jobs. He's working at a, um, kind of a cool place here at East Tennessee. Actually, it's like a, like a resort area. He's a, he's a manager.

or so he had a good place to go, but I promise you it's not as good as what he was doing on his own time. You know, in his own hours. And he did take a little bit of a little bit of a pay cut. So, you know, it's,

that's, it's a weird when it's, it's always, it's always crazy when you see something that's kind of like theoretical. And I like to think about things and talk about things. And I'm like, oh, you know, AI replacing this and replacing that.

Matter of fact, you know, You and I talked about this, I think, on the last one, about technology replacing things. And in the grand scheme of things, it never ends up being the problem that we say. But at a micro level, it does affect individuals. And, yeah, to find out that somebody that you know, that's always kind of a surprise. Yeah. Yeah.

And that's so brutal. You should give me his info, by the way, because I'm going to start a magazine down ahead. So maybe we could talk about something. Heck yeah. It's way better to work with teams and people than outsourcing everything. Like don't get me wrong, you can save some money. But if you can afford it, working with teams that know what they're doing and are passionate, I mean, that's a way better direction to go.

You know, I'd like to hear about it. But that's brutal here, you know. And it's happening. It's happening in every direction, for sure. There's, there's no escape from it, I don't think. You know, but you can tie it into so many things. You can tie it into, you know, like the collapse of media at the moment. And everything that's been going on with, like, mainstream trust of media as well.

What you're faced with there is this used to be the place where you go for information, like all the time. And all of a sudden, now it's not a place you can trust. And in the same way as your friend, like, oh, my job existed. I have the skill set. This is where I go. This is where I go to make my money and do my things. things are changing so quickly that what is the answer about keeping up? And is it even a thing about keeping up, right?

It's like you don't need to get online and start learning about AI to keep your business going. But does it mean you just wait around until a robot just takes your job? Maybe I should write that novel about it. Maybe you should, yeah. It's an e-book. Yeah, self-published. Yeah, you got to make an e-book and start selling it. I don't know.

Look, having Tim Dillon on was incredible as always. I mean, it's a hilarious episode and ridiculous, to say the least. I mean, what a national treasure. I don't even know what to think with how he pivots, how he stands by what he believes in. They even ended the episode with him. Joe was saying, your podcast is so good. to keep doing it, the way that you balance, like, politics and kind of like a decent news cycle, honestly, with current events and also sprinkling in your ridiculous humor, which I don't think is ever.

Like, to say it's inappropriate, you could. But I think really what he's doing is just breaking the tension on the insanity of the horrific things that he talks about. Yeah. And he goes, I'll keep doing it until they put me in jail. And that's funny to Rogan and to Tim because it might be true. Right. Yeah, there's a little bit of Gallo's humor in that. Uh-huh. It might be true.

Well, as always, Brian, I appreciate you. And I hope you guys enjoyed this as well. Check it out. It's a great episode. It's super worth listening to. I mean, what a legend. And we'll talk to you guys next time. Peace.