Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 536 JRE Review of MrBeast

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

MrBeast is back on Joe Rogan, and we're breaking down one of the biggest episodes of the year. We dive into the insane scale of Beast Games, Jimmy's obsession with YouTube, his thoughts on business and philanthropy, the zombie apocalypse competition idea, and the surprising moments that stood out. Plus, we share what we agreed with, what we questioned, and give our overall rating of the episode. Thanks to this weeks sponsors: Rappin the Rivers: Go to Eventbrite.com or Sellout Events to get your tickets for Rappin the Rivers Festival 2026, August 7th and 8th in Cardwell, Montana, featuring DaBaby, That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, Kid Ink, Young Dirty Bastard, and more. For full festival details, go to RappinTheRiversMT.com. Camping is included. For fee-free banking go to Chime.com/JRER   For more Rogan exclusives support us on Patreon patreon.com/JREReview www.JREreview.com For all marketing questions and inquiries: [e-mail] Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. [e-mail]

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Hey guys, welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. Today we are reviewing Mr. Beast, the biggest YouTuber in the world. You know, it's like, it's even funny to say like, oh, biggest YouTuber and then thinking that YouTube has become that big. But if you are the biggest YouTuber, you are so much bigger than any other type of TV or media, period. Yeah. I mean, hundreds of millions of people watch his stuff. Yes, hundreds of millions of people, but there's billions of people using YouTube every day. It's crazy.

Like three billion, which is wild because that's a huge part of the population. They talk about it a couple of times with sort of this idea is like being a YouTuber as a profession and how it's like or a creator, content, creator and you know you ask almost any any young adult or a young man kind of particularly i feel like under the age of 18 and they're like i want to be a youtube like i want to be a content creator yeah it's become a huge industry and and job that never existed 20 years ago and they did touch on that a bit where it's like if you had told them 20 years ago you're going to be a YouTuber be like um Well, didn't Joe and Mr. Beast decide that they had started, Joe had started podcasting at about the same time Mr. Bees started YouTube? Yeah.

If you went back and spoke to both of them then, one, the platforms didn't exist. Nobody was making money in podcasting when Rogan started. Or maybe somebody had monetized something, but super rare. Yeah. We're talking 2009. On YouTube, I mean, probably some people were maybe. making some money. Yeah.

But there was no infrastructure. Nothing existed like today. So to have the biggest podcast ever talking to the biggest YouTuber ever. And Joe's had plenty of success on YouTube as well with some of his podcast for sure in the close to hundreds of millions. Yeah. You know, I mean, I think that both of them started. just with that passion for it. Like people used to make fun of Joe.

Some of Joe's closest friends like Tom Seguer were like, why the hell are you doing this? Now they have their own massive podcast. So, you know, there's an interesting lesson there. And it's not to say just do anything and hope one day that it's big. I think the real lesson is if you enjoy something that you're doing, just keep doing it get good at it. Yeah.

And its own audience will follow. Yep, exactly. Well, and, you know, kind of back to what you were saying, you know, 20 years ago, I mean, the original influencers were on YouTube. And now there's all these other platforms. There's Instagram. There's TikTok. There's, you know. And but, but in reality, like, no one was really monetized in the same way.

It was more like fame and fortune and sort of like private, not fortune, I guess, but like social, you know, internet fame. and then people sort of found a lot more money, I believe, through using Instagram because advertisers, it was a little bit easier for advertisers and brands to sort of promote through Instagram. YouTube's obviously caught up and people make a lot of money doing that. But, you know, Mr. Beast did talk about sort of this formulaic way to be good at anything. And it was, you know, thousands and thousands of hours of stuff. study and iterations and reviewing and really just not giving up and being told no over and over again and trying your best and and putting your head down and you know like said 17 years or something they've both been doing this and now they're both kind of like the biggest in their you know their respective industries of podcasting and youtube content creation and now mr bese is doing tv and he's put on the biggest prize winning reality show which reality tvs been big for a long time. So, like, he's kind of doing like the biggest things possible and you put

him in one room together. They had some really interesting ideas. And I think having young people listen to a podcast like this to sort of hear, you know, we were told we were crazy. We were told that this wasn't going to do anything for us. But then we just kept doing it over and over and over again. We got good. We got an audience. We got people to believe in us. And then that's how we found the fame and the fortune through it. It's a primary Rogan message that's like threaded through his podcast since the beginning.

Yeah. You know, if you enjoy something that you're doing and you practice a lot and you get good at it and you work hard, the kind of irony there though is think how Mr. Beast is evolved over time. He's, his videos have got better. The technology has. He's got a lot more money. He's got a bigger

team. They can do more things. Like he said, I think with the Beast games, they like broke all these records for the most cameras ever used. And then he got contestants from every country, spent over a million dollars on casting, spent something like $22 million in season one or gave that much away. It's like there's this massive evolution. He has to keep getting bigger and better and doing all these things. In comparison, you've got Rogan, who, not to take anything away,

from him. He's worked his ass off because he does so many podcasts every week. He's always doing it, barely ever misses unless he goes hunting. But his show is pretty much the same as it was in 2009. He's got like better at speaking and he's changed some of the ways that he kind of constructs the show. But it basically hasn't changed. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's not like he has to outdo himself all the time, other than like building a newer, cooler studio. But most of the cool shit that he's built is behind the scene. Yeah. It's like his gym that he has in his studio. No one sees it.

Yeah. It's just all the rest of the toys that he has in there. Yeah. He developed this model back in 2009 and it just basically hasn't changed. And there's, what, three people that work for him? Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Beast has, what, hundreds?

Hundreds. Hundreds of editors, hundreds of different things. Yeah, I thought it was so interesting to hear him talk about his process and sort of like where his, how his production. production works now, you know, like Beast Games, the most recent season, it was filmed in Toronto. And you said, you know, it was for like six months we were filming. So like we created jobs. You know, we had broken all these records, as you said, with cameras, but there was like so much editing that had to be done, 1,200 cameras. That's insane. All at once. And it was not

like a traditional reality show where, you know, you get like these testimonials from people where they're sat on the couch and it's like, okay, we're going to show you a clip and then I want you to give us your direct feedback on just that. And then it allows the editors to like piece together, you know, entertainment and shows that way. It's like they're just like, say whatever you want and then like we'll piece it together based on what is said. That sounds like a nightmare. A nightmare for editing. But it probably makes for a really good reality TV, you know, in less scripted, a little bit more like agency from each of the individual. rules like and he talked about that a few times like he really just wants people to like be

themselves and say what they're really thinking and what they're feeling he doesn't want to script it it's reality TV like he wants the crazy to come out in the natural organic way so very very cool and I think ultimately what in and they went on this spiel for like a square an hour talking about the zombie show that they basically craft him that they're going to try to put together right which was very cool and like a whole other topic but all and all, you can kind of see Mr. Beast's process and how he works. Like, he's obviously sort of a work addict and he never stops thinking, but he's not tainted by like traditional media in the way where it's like, oh, well, this is what's already been done. Let's push the envelope just a little bit. It's like,

think as big as you can and then figure out how to make it work. And you may get people telling you like, here's the obstacle here. That's probably not going to work. And you just continue to overcome those barriers to creating like the most rad, like entertaining, you know, content. And that's what makes him stand out. That's why people watch him because it's like, he did what? I've never seen that before. And like, we rarely see things on television that you haven't seen before because it just doesn't exist. And like, even when something costs a lot of money to produce, like, what was that show that Netflix made about the serial killers? And it was like a time piece. Gosh, it's going to drive.

Oh, man hunter? Yes, mind hunter. Mind hunter, yeah, that was great. And it was like, oh. They ran out of money. It just got too expensive. It just got too difficult to like make it accurate.

So like we just give up. Which is weird because everyone loved that show. So good. Everyone wanted a third season. Yeah, but it just became too expensive. In time period pieces are hard because everything has to be like critic people are critical. Like, oh, like the soda cans didn't look right or like the art on the walls wasn't the right, you know, like, oh, there was like different lights that didn't exist then.

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required. Terms and limits apply. Go to chime.com slash disclosures for details. Produces so many shows at once. And they just like, again, they're just like, let's just like make a new version of what we've already done because we already sort of have the infrastructure. And Mr. Bees is like, what is nobody ever thought of doing before? And then I'm going to take it to my team and be like, here's my grand idea. And you handle this bit and you handle this bit and make it happen and here's as much money as we need and then in turn they make like that money tenfold because people are like this is sick like I want to be I want to watch all of this and I'm going to rewatch it and I'm going to send it to people and then that's how content is shared and created these days so

well I love what he was saying about when he goes to his team he's like let's go in the coliseum or let's go in the pyramids and people are like you can't do that like nobody's done it and he just has this attitude like well but why not yeah like keep believing Can we ask? See if something opens up. I mean, it's kind of wild that they did the Coliseum thing. Yeah, what was that 100 days? Yeah, I don't remember.

I don't actually watch much of his videos. I'll see clips here and there. The problem is it's too game show, like kiddie game showy for me to be that interested. But to be honest, I'm sure if I, like, scoured his pages, there's lots of things he does that even I would find interesting. Yeah. I don't really have the time to get into it. But I've always liked hearing him talk anytime he's been on podcast because he often really openly breaks down his process.

He wants other creators to exist. He doesn't have that like famine mentality, which I just don't care for. Like, oh, I have to be the very, like, don't get me wrong. He wants to be the best and the biggest. But he's not out there not wanting other people to make great stuff for YouTube. He even says, you know, I'm not bothered at all of someone. someone else has a big channel and people are watching it.

Yeah. Like, there's enough people out there watching things. It's not like they will all stop watching my stuff to go watch something else. Yeah. And that's a great attitude to have. And then he collabs with a ton of people too. And, you know, Joe has a lot of this message. I mean, I can't tell you how many podcasts Joe is basically started by having guests on

and then persuading them to start a podcast. If he was really worried about this like famine amount of audience potential, he wouldn't have encouraged anyone to do podcasts. But he's always telling people to listen to other shows. He's like, there's enough out there. Everyone can get some of this. Yeah. You know, and that really is an attitude thing.

Like to say, oh, well, there's a factual thing and not. I mean, it's kind of true on both ends. But there's enough. Yeah. If what you're making is good, then you're going to get your own audience. It doesn't necessarily take from somebody else. Everyone can make a ton of money. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. They just like their dynamic was cool. I felt like, you know, naturally, Mr. Beast talking about the, it was the series finale of Beast games, season three, I think. They filmed in the Coliseum. And then, of course, naturally, Joe starts, like, his ancient civilization, like, you know, go a spiel. Uh-huh. And then they went on this, like, like, I mentioned before, like, hour long rant, I swear, about Iyation over a zombie game show in some, like, old, like, rundown city or, like, abandoned city or community and, like, what that would look like.

And they just went on and on and on. Well, I think it was after Mr. Bees talked about spending 100 hours in the pyramids and kind of like walking around and seeing all the tombs and like how creepy it was. And then that kind of set the mood for them talking about these run down cities and how quickly the, you know, the earth would just take over a city if nobody's in there because that's how long these like ancient buildings can last. And of course, you've got the Fear Factor guy, which is what Rogan was, like, let's not forget, combined with Mr. Beast. So there was constantly this play of Rogan trying to make it more dangerous and more scary, which is what Fear Factor is. He's like, we've got to have zombies. Yeah. He's like there's got to be like an impact and a real gunshot.

And Mr. Bees is like, I don't know. Mr. Beast is held back by potential lawsuits. Exactly. So he thinks big. He's like, we could get a whole city. We could do this massive event. We could have hundreds and hundreds of people. But he's smart enough to know where lawsuits are.

So everything there was like, oh, I don't know if we could use paintballs. And Joe was not stopped by anything because he seemed fear factor. They were like throwing people out of cars. You know what I mean? He's just like, no, you want, it's got to be a lot. loud bang. It's got to look awesome. People have to hurt. He's like, just put him in army gear. Well, even Mr. Beast was like, yeah, but it might not be all that kid friendly. Joe didn't care at all. He basically steamrolled Mr. Beast with his excitement on his idea. But if you listen to it,

he was pulling Mr. Beast along. Yeah. Like Mr. Beast started to be just won over with the idea and making it make sense to him. I'm not going to lie. If Mr. Beast, Beast pulls this together. I think a shitload of Rogan fans are going to be watching this. Not that a bunch of people won't watch Mr. Bees stuff anyway. It's not like he desperately needs this extra little push, whatever percentage that would be. But I think there's going to be a lot of new curious fans that would be willing to watch that, especially if he gives Rogan some credit for it. Yeah. Like Joe Rogan's idea for a zombie apocalypse. Do you know what's? so funny is I literally, after listening to that podcast, you know, then your mind kind of stews

on like, oh, zombies and like zombie apocalypsees, like all the other zombie shows you've watched, you know, they, they questioned, well, how are the zombies going to move? Is it going to be, like, 28 days later zombies? Or is it going to be, like, walking dead zombies? Like, what kind of zombies is going to be 28 days late to zombies? They're terrifying. They are terrifying. They sprint at you. That 28, was it 28 years later? That was really scary. Yeah. Like, with the, the big one running across. the river. Oh my gosh. The channel. That was so terrifying. Anyways, I legitimately dreamed about zombies. Like, I had like actual, yeah, like actual dreams waking up, heart racing. It happened

twice because then, you know, you go back to sleep and your dream resumes. And I was laying there for like 20 minutes. I'm like, please don't have this dream again. Please don't have this dream again. And like, well, shit, they must have talked about it for an hour. Oh, is. And then you, you know, I'm like, I'm, I'm interested and I'm thinking about the idea. And then you think about like, oh, what would I do in that situation and how would I? Like, what kind of, you know, if a zombie apocalypse ensued, like, what kind of things would you pack in your bag and where would you go and who would you want to be with? All the things. And so then, you know, as a parent, you start thinking about like all the horrors of life all the time.

So you're just like, you're like, okay, well, how would I keep my kids safe? Like, you know, would I just want to, like, give up and like, or would I want to try to survive? I don't know. And then, yeah, of course, I drink about it. I think that's why people are so fascinated, though, with those. movies and that type of idea. Yeah. Because it is just, I mean, it's one thing to do a movie that's like post-apocalyptic, right?

Like something catastrophic has happened and then everyone's fighting to survive. But to add a monster to it all, it's like it's not bad enough. We're going to make it an actual nightmare and you've got to live in it. Yeah. And then they bring a lot of like human element to this story. It's, that's why those stories are so good. I'm so into that stuff. Like that show Silo.

You know, that shows silo where it's like, well, you're actually not sure if it's post-apocalyptic. They make you think that it is. But like in the new season, you're kind of realizing maybe it isn't post-apocalyptic. Is that the one where they don't really know what's on the outside of the silo? Yeah. And they make it seem like people just die when they go outside. Yes. So they like make them go out and like clean the cameras.

But like it's basically like implied that it's like the video of them. Like it's like fake. They're not. It's like, or it's like they go out and they clean the camera so that people can see. continue to see that it looks like that it's post-apocalyptic, but what they're actually seeing is not what the cameras are seeing. And so they're like, let me clean the cameras so that they can see what I'm seeing. And so it's sort of like backwards.

Like, but it's very trippy. And the show's very like visually dark because they're like all underground. So it really brings you into this world of, you know, like civilization underground in these silos. And I'm very into that show. Well, I think stuff like that in a weird world. way does match up with the ancient civilization stuff that Joe is often talking about. We're going to cover some more of that next week with whoever that lady was, who was great. I forget her name.

Cassie something. That's it. But it's like the idea is that there were these advanced civilizations that either got destroyed or forgot. Yeah. Or you don't really forget, but like the knowledge was lost of how these advanced things were built. And then there was this more primitive period that came afterwards. And it's similar to that show.

It's like they don't know why they're in that silo. They don't know what really came before. They've basically forgot all of the previous history. And it's like that isn't impossible to believe it's true. Right. How many generations would it take? Like you literally take one generation and take all the information away and then feed them a bunch of propaganda bullshit.

You can train a whole new generation that everything was different. Up is down. Right. You know, black is white. It's all different. Yeah, it is, it's a trippy experience to watch shows like that and to be really engulfed in them. But, you know, they also, there's a lot of like good lessons in a show like that where it's like, oh, like challenge the social norms and like there's bigger things out there and like, you know, falling in line kind of like being complacent doesn't always mean that like the best things are happening. But like, is that easier? Is it easier to like stand up for what you really think is going on or like really. believe in. You know, and that I think that aligns a lot with like kind of how Joe is, you know,

he's always questioning. He questions everything. He's curious. Like, what do I not know? What do I know? And like, you know, what should I know? And does this sound like bullshit? Yeah. Yeah. So should I just trust them on this? And encouraging other people to do it. I think that's why people get frustrated with Rogan, those that do. I mean, there's podcasts out there now that do, like, basically a negative review, just trying to make Rogan look dumb. And it's, you know, it's one of those things where, yeah, he's getting people to question things. And there are just certain people out there that have their own narrative that do not like all these people questioning things. They think it's dangerous.

Yeah. It's like you need a fallen line. Right. And that's up to you. Choose your path with that. But I think get creative. Ask questions. You know, it's not always like questioning authority.

It's a question like what Mr. B. and question what is possible. Yeah. Imagine him coming into the space and people being like, no, you can't go in the pyramids. Yeah. Oh, okay. Then I won't. I'll do something else.

But like people be like, can I go in the pyramids this year? And like, no. Okay, well, when can I go and what is it going to cost me is kind of how he goes about it? He's like, what would it take? And then it makes people think bigger. Like, hmm, like maybe it's worth going. Maybe there's some like exposure here that like could be really good, you know, like getting other people interested in traveling here and like, you know, increase in tourism in

areas like that is always beneficial for those communities and those, you know, citizens of those communities that rely on it. So like, I think like in the pyramid situation, it wasn't like a super straightforward thing. And there was a lot of back and forth over like, oh, you can't do this or you can do this. And he basically said, like, I want unlimited access, but I'm going to be respectful. And like, I'm not going to like damage anything. And it's just a hundred hours. So it wasn't like he was there for like. 10 days. How did he poop?

Oh, I mean. They put a little potty in there? Give him a bucket. I don't know the answer to this. He had a pyramid bucket? A pyramid bucket. These are the big questions. Joe Rogan missed out on.

Yeah, you should have asked. You really should have asked. 100 hours inside, you're going to go. At least once. It's going in a bag. Yeah. I don't, yeah, probably something like that. How long before there's some sort of beast games on the moon?

Oh, speaking of how do they poop? Remember that? We were talking about that girl, that gal who just, rode across the ocean. Oh, yeah. That was wild. Side, side tangent, that girl, she rode across from Hawaii,

California to Hawaii. She beat the world record for both men and women. And my biggest question was, how did she poop? Where did she do with it? I feel like it's over the edge. It's the ocean. Whales pooped in that.

You think she just, like, hung over her, or did she poop in a bucket and dumb it? Why didn't we not know the answers to this? This is a very human thing. what I'm saying. These are the important questions. She pooped over the side. She was in the ocean. You're not going to carry it with you. It's weighing her down. Go to get the weight off. You can move faster. I mean, she was rowing. I'm going to chat that later. Let's find out. Okay. Let's find out. Now I want to know about Mr. Beast. I actually do want to check out the pyramid thing. I want to check out the pyramid. I, you know, I saw Beast games. I've never watched it, but I've, you know, you see clips of it and stuff. Like, it looks super interesting. I thought it was so Cool. So cool. That he got someone from every country. But the coolest thing that he did was he had multiple contenders for the chosen individual from each country. And he let the country themselves vote on that. So, you know, viewers within that country vote on who they wanted to participate. Because he didn't want there to be any misrepresentation just because it's like, oh, this one individual is like in the Olympics. There's like a whole team, like all these different sports. So it's like, oh, if you can't, if you just bring one and then all of a sudden, they're a dud or they're like really bad.

Then it's a bad look for the country. So he didn't want to be responsible for that. And I think what spoke to me there was that he doesn't just think like, how do I like make this as minimally, um, like how do I like how do I minimize my resources going into like setting this up? Like how do I do this is the best possible way to make the most people happy and entertained and engaged. And, um, you know, he kind of like spares an expense and whether that's time or money he's like i'll do whatever it takes like do this really really well well he's always been very good of reflecting on feedback yeah so that's a big part of his philosophy all the way down to like the tiniest minute detail like the colors of a thumbnail it's like what captures their eye the quickest what's going to have them click on you know their episode then

he would run through the episode and because you get so much data feedback from youtube it's like how long people watch for, when people turned off, when they were not interested, he's always adjusting that. So I'm sure that that probably came up in some of the feedback that he got that maybe he's picked people before that, you know, let's say the Russian guy does really poorly. And he's like goofy and terrible at a bunch of the events. Well, then he gets the criticism for picking that guy because there's so many other Russians that would have done well.

He's like, I need to get off the hook for this. Yeah. So I'm going to throw back on the people, give him a bit of a choice. Yeah. And yeah, that's a lot more work, but it's a smart move. He also, in that same vein, you know, talking about this potential zombie, like, you know, post-apocalyptic show. He's like, I can't, like, make it too difficult for anyone because then, like, I'll get a trillion articles about me being evil and how, like, I'm a torturer because, like, I'm making people stay awake and not letting them have their own agency to, like, be. like, you know, sleep.

Again, he was thinking lawsuits. Lawsuits. Rogan didn't care. And negative, yeah, negative. He was like spraying with water. Keep him awake. Yeah. It's definitely a different world that they live in because, yeah, Mr.

Buse is like entertaining the masses. And I mean, Joe's got a large audience, but his is probably a little bit more niche and definitely older and maybe less sensitive. Well, I think, though, that they kind of honed in potentially on an idea that the Mr. Beas was saying like get a UFC fighter, get a special forces guy, like get some tough guy specialists in particular areas and then see how they kind of work together. That might be a better angle just because there's like a potential like danger range to this. And you probably need some people that can go through more extreme experiences. Yeah.

Because I could imagine, you know, a regular folk off the street might have a bit of a freak out. in a situation like this. Yes. You know? Like, not only you, it's the game show, but I mean, maybe they are very hands off with it, since it's such a big city and the cameras are kind of sets up. And it's multiple days and then a lot of weird stuff's happening at night. I mean, you can have people freak out.

Yes. For sure. Yeah. I kind of thought of that, like, that show alone. Is that what it's called? where they like have like people, do they drop like 12, like mountaineer, like different types of people, like survivalists and stuff, like out in the middle of like the Arctic. Yeah, all of those people know a little bit of what they're doing. Yeah, they're like heavily vetted for like survival skills and they're like, can you use this?

Like how long have you like lived on your, you know, without like modern amenities like that kind of thing. If you want really good at making fires. Yeah. And then it rained. Done. Yeah. Like day one, you're out. Yeah. And honestly, even on that show, a lot of people do leave within a couple of days.

Yeah. And they know what they're doing. They make one mistake and they're like, I screwed. You know, like I picked the wrong tools by 10 items. I picked the wrong things or, you know, you just never know. But that's where my money is. The food thing is always the killer if you watch that. It is. Some people are just in a spot where they just cannot get any food. Yeah. And everything goes horribly wrong. You got to go in quite overweight. Yes. You do got to go in overweight. But there are some characters coming out of that. show, I swear, it is so entertaining. But I think, let's shift to the conversation over content creation and content creators sort of taking on Hollywood. Oh, yeah. And what that looks like these days. I mean, I think the, like, original instance of this was Jordan Peel, who made Get Out. So he sort of had his, like, Keen Peel, their like, skit comedy show. And, like, that was already sort of televised like on Comedy Central but then it was a big show on comedy central but then he made get out and that movie was like huge huge and so well done and it was like wait who made this show who made this movie like it was so not controversial but like eye opening and and made really

thinking like wait he made that like that's just you know I mean he obviously made good like comedy content um but I think it opened the door for many creators and especially YouTubers that were making good skits or just good shorts to be brave enough to make something a lot bigger. And you see that with that Corey Barker guy that did obsession. Yep. Because again, he did skits similar to like Key and P. They were very funny. They were short.

Yeah. It's him and his body. They're both really good in it. He's the goofiest one always. He's so great. And then they come out make obsession. And that is completely, I mean, it's made every horror thriller in the last 20 years look like nothing. Yeah.

I mean, it's made an unbelievable amount of money. Yeah. And now that guy is going to be made. I think he's making Texas Shainsaw Massacre next, which is, which is the, I think the first horror movie he ever watched as a kid. So he's like pumped to do it. Yeah. But that's pretty amazing. And why the hell not?

I mean, these people are practicing all the time. I mean, there's a reason the biggest game show in the world is now come from a YouTuber. TV's been making game shows forever. Deal or no deal or blah, blah, it's been the same shit forever. Yeah. And the prizes aren't even that big. They cannot afford to have the production. Right.

And out of nowhere, you know, well, not out of nowhere, but through a bunch of years of trying. Yeah. Mr. Beast is just now like, okay, my show is literally 10 times larger. cost 10 times more and everyone wants to go on it because the prizes are so much bigger than anything else. Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's

this concept of like these YouTubers making content, they like they have these limitations like you're saying like they don't have like these huge budgets or whatever. So then when they're like, oh look I am going to make like a full length movie, they do it like on a more cost effective basis. And I think it almost like, Like there's not a lot of hype over it either.

Like, what's the movie that just came out? Christopher Nolan? Odyssey. Like, imagine the flop or He-Man. Like, that was a flop. Odyssey is not a flop. But He-Man, flop, right? Because there was so much hype over it.

And like, oh, the potential is so big. And there's all these names in it and all these, like, beautiful people and whatever. So it's like, you think, oh, it's just going to be, like, the most entertaining, like, thing. And then it's just kind of not. Like, it's not what everyone hoped it would be. But when you sort of go into film without like a lot of expectations on how good it's going to be, and you're used to working with a really constrained budget but making good quality content strictly through like your art and your ability to like have a good eye for filmmaking, like that's when things come out. And that's why like indie films, a lot of indie films tend to like have great ratings.

They just don't get a lot of marketing behind them. And so not a lot of people see them. But some indie films are like some of the best movies out there. and the budgets were like 100 grand, you know, or less, and their uncle paid for it. Well, obsession costs a million dollars. Yeah. And it's made so far, I think, 250 million. So crazy.

If you're talking a 250-fold profit, I mean, that's, I know they talk in millions. Like, you make a movie that costs 110 million and it made 160 million. Yeah, you've made 50 million. That's what they're looking for, right? So it's not like multiplicities. But you just said the He-Man won. That costs, they think, close to $200 million, made $110. Wow.

So basically somebody spent $90 million. Like they did all that work, everything got done, and $90 million is gone. How many times can you do that before you don't have a movie studio anymore? Right. Yeah. Not many. I recently watched a video and I'll butcher like the actual details because, you know, too much content through my head. But about the creation of Napoleon Dynamite.

And that was like a huge, huge like pop culture phenomena during my like teenage years and, you know, preteen and teenage years. And so that film is still to this day, like one of the most like if I hear a quote like from Napoleon Dynamite, I instantly know that it's from Napoleon Dynamite. Like it's just such a big deal for mean like people that I grew up with. It costs $400,000 to make. His uncle. And it grossed over 46 million worldwide. Yeah. His uncle funded it.

And it was like everyone he knew. Some of them like worked for free. They did it all. It was like some BYU students. They didn't even have some actors in that. They had like that actual, what was it, like garlic farmer or whatever. They, there was some farmer. Yes, yes.

And he was just a guy that lived in that area. There was a farmer that no one could understand. They just stuck him in the movie. They were like, we'll make you lunch and like, can we just use your set? And then there was like one well-paid actor and it was the karate guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. The dojo. Yeah, the dojo.

And he, you know, basically like, he was like, yeah, you get like one day and like this and this. And they like wanted to have someone else to do it. And they're like, well, we just can't afford him. But like, he was like he was such a good character. Rex, that's the character's name. And. But you have to put. so much more love and creativity, I think, in a movie when you don't have the budget.

Yeah. And you get to take some wild risks, too. I mean, it's a really unusual movie. Yeah. If anyone out there's listening as like a fan of it, look up the video, look up on YouTube, like the creation of Napoleon. It's so interesting to look kind of like behind the scenes on films that sort of like were so pivotal during your teen years and your, and same. with music too. Like, it's crazy to hear about, like, all the controversies, like, with music that happened, like, when you're, like, coming of age and because you're like, oh, everything's

perfect and serendipitous and, like, oh, it's just good music's come out all, like, in the right ways. But so much controversy in the music industry and the film industry, but. For sure. Indie films kind of give you some, a good feeling about watching them when you know that, like, it was made, like, with a lot of love. And it wasn't like, oh, someone was like, this was like a bonus contract like, you know, like, oh, this director said they, you know, would film it just because they wanted more money to film like a different movie, right? It's like they were being forced to make this. Like a lot of indie filmmakers like love what they're doing and they're very passionate about it. And a lot of big actresses or actors that do indie films, it's because they're passionate about it.

Well, I mean, the passion is what speaks through the work. And it's also a big part of what gets you through really long days. of work, which all of this is. Even Mr. B's talked about working multiple 18-hour days for, like, I think he said 30 days straight. He worked 18-hour days. Yeah.

Which is just bananas. Yeah. Like, I was trying to think what would I be so passionate about? Maybe I'm jealous that I'm not as passionate about anything as he is to do that, I can't imagine what the thing would be

that I would work 30, 18 hour days for. Like, that's an absurd amount of work. But here's the thing, if you love it enough and you've put that pressure on yourself to produce something, like you kind of have to do that. But there's like nothing that. Maybe if I got carved out enough time

and I could, was funded and could go to like all the ancient sites all over the world. But that to me just kind of sounds like traveling quite a bit and vlogging. Yeah, so travel vlogging. Yeah. Yeah, but that's also like, yeah, like filling your cup every day and it being work. And I think this is that concept of like being an entrepreneur and like working for yourself and like being a content creator. It's like one, you're picking a niche that like means something to you typically or they are interested in. video game content creators, like, they love video games. And like, that's what, how Mr. B started was

like filming himself playing his video games. And, like, posting that. And then it evolved to, like, winning money because he was like, I want to make a million dollars. So he's like, how do I give a million dollars? Like, how do I work up to that? Like, how do I make people, like, super happy and, like, give away things that are life changing because I want life changing things to come to me. And a lot of content creators that evolves. I see that in my feed. a lot when it comes to, you know, females who, like, their content starts out as, like, fashion, right? Like, oh, like, I'm just going to, like, be an influencer of fashion or, like, you know, critiquing brands or whatever. And then it evolves to, like, now I'm becoming a mom,

and my whole world is mom stuff. So, like, now I'm going to evolve to, like, parenting things. And then it, like, becomes toddler things. And then it becomes, like, kids clothes, you know? So it evolves to, like, what you're into. And I think that's, It's like such a cool way to make a living. And I think we get to do this a little bit with podcasting. You know, we get to sort of pick and choose. I mean, this podcast is about reviewing Rogan and he sort of like curates the guests. But like we get to pick our favorite ones and we get to review them. And that's really cool. Yeah, I don't talk about the boring ones. No, why would we? That doesn't make any sense. If I'm not interested in it. And you know, and sometimes I'll talk about ones that were a flop or massively controversial, like when Egyptian Pyramid. guy came on and was just banging on about his book constantly because it was just such a shit show of a podcast. I was like, I got to talk about this one. But again, it's interesting, right?

Having that freedom to do, just discuss and work in things that you're interested in. And it's going to be hard for me as a parent to be the sort of parent that when my daughter's growing up, she's like, I want to do this. I like this. It's just, you know, she, how could I tell her not to be a content creator. Yeah. Or go do an info or start a podcast about anything. Yeah. I guarantee any podcast idea she would even come up with as a two-year-old.

It's probably better than I come up with now. I know. It'd be so interesting. What would her podcast be now? Right now about dinosaurs. Taking the child locks off the doors. You know, like how to get indoors with child locks on it. How to mix liquids.

Yeah, pouring and scooping. Yeah. But, you know, nowadays, it's like you can go to college for podcasting. My previous producer did that. And he works for a bunch of different podcasts now doing editing and producing for him why he does stand up on the side. And, you know, even got on to kill Tony last year, which is amazing. Yeah. And, you know, it's like you could be editor now, storyteller, marketing, analytics, the business side of that type of thing.

It's kind of wild. Even my tax guy, he's an entertainment tax guy. So he works kind of specifically with YouTubers. Yeah. And I've talked to him a little bit about it. I don't do any YouTube, but because I do podcasting, which is like similar tax bracket stuff, I talk to him about like what some of these guys are doing. Number one, a bunch of them make a ton of money, right? So there's a bunch of money to be made.

And then also just kind of how they run their business, which is fascinating. You know, they can go on these massive adventures. while filming content, and, you know, they can write it all off. That's how it works. So cool. Everyone should have to do a podcast, you know. A lot of people have tried and a lot of people are trying. I think there's something like 5 million podcasts right now.

Yeah. I don't know if that's active, but it's close. Yeah. That's absurd. Now that we might run out of people for. If you're thinking of viewers, how much time does everybody have for a podcast? Not enough. say. Yeah, I'm full of Rogan once. So I barely can listen to one or two other podcasts a week. Otherwise,

my whole life is just listening to podcasts. I know. I wonder at what point we get in, you know, I mean, there's already, like, you see people that, like, go to the grocery store and they just, like, have their headphones in constantly. I get overstimulated from trying to do more than one thing at once. But, you know, like, we're always consuming content while we're, like, doing something else. Yeah, a lot of people listen to a podcast while at work. It kind of helps them get through the day, especially if you're doing things that you know how to do very well, because it's autopilot. Yeah. So it just kind of breaks some of the silence, gets rid of that noise a little bit.

So I think that that's a really cool part of podcasting. Mm-hmm. And, you know, and a lot of people, look, there's a reason that, like, TEDx isn't the biggest podcast in the world, and it's shows like Rogans, which have their serious end. They have their knowledge episodes, but then they have the, Mr. Beast ones that are just silly and fun. It's like you don't need to sit and take notes and pay that much attention. It can just be playing in the background and you're like, oh, that was interesting.

And then you just crack on with whatever you're doing. It's, you know, people don't want to be massively focused on something. Yeah. That's why a lot of the most popular TV shows aren't like script heavy, you know, especially any of the reality ones. They're super popular, but it's kind of mindless. Yeah. You can kind of just have this so-called nonsense just playing away.

And you're just like, oh, yeah, that was entertaining. I didn't want to think too hard. I'm tired. I don't want to miss a single word. I'm like, what did you say? Rewind, what did they say? What did they say about their mom? Well, there's that too.

I got to rewind. But anyway, I like this episode. I think Mr. Beast is doing something really interesting in the YouTube space. And he's pulling up a lot of other creators, which again just leads to way more interesting content that's higher quality. It just goes to show that YouTube, the sky's the limits there now. I mean, they literally have the biggest budgets

on some of these shows, even to the point where Netflix is like trying to buy him over and get him on those platforms. But ultimately, I don't even know if they can afford him. Yeah. You know? Let's leave the listeners with this.

This was brought up. So if you listen to the episode, then you heard it. But if not, what is the next YouTube? or what is the next job that it doesn't exist yet in 20 years is going to be like the next YouTuber where people are making millions and millions of dollars doing what they love but they have to start now. Yeah.

They have to get in ahead of the crowd. Because the belief that it's just the platforms that already exist that would just continue evolving that no, it's not true. There's always something new, something else that comes out that kind of, it's probably going to be something that's bigger, involves. AI and combines a bunch of things together. You know? What do you guys think it is?

Send us an email. We will see. And in five years, if you're correct, you win a prize. In 20 years. 20 years. We'll see you back in 20 years. It gives me time to save up for your prize. But anyway, thank you guys so much for listening.

We appreciate you. As always, check out this episode. It was cool as how, especially if you're a Mr. Bees fan. And we look forward to seeing Joe's iteration of this zombie city apocalypse. It's going to be dope. All right. Later, guys. Thank you.