Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - 538 JRE Review of Theo Von

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

We're looking back at one of Joe Rogan's conversations with Theo Von—a perfect mix of hilarious stories, strange tangents, and moments that get surprisingly deep. We break down the best parts of the episode, Theo's completely unique way of looking at the world, his chemistry with Joe, and why he continues to be one of the most entertaining guests on JRE. Plus, we give our ratings and see how the episode holds up on a re-listen.

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This week we are talking about Theo Vaughan, Theo Vaughan on Rogan. And I have a little clip just to start it off that I believe they're talking about Alex Jones. Here we go. I certainly think there's a percentage of that conversation is real. What conversation you mean? When people think that people have been co-opted

by the government, like that they've become, what is that one they like to use? Controlled opposition. You want to pretend to be a smart conspiracy thing. You have to say controlled opposition. I could easily see. Bro, in two weeks, Tom's the girl were you playing this guy. He looks great.

That's all it is. He looks great. But he doesn't look like the same person. Not at all, dude. Because he's laid off the booze. He's laid off the booze. He's not eating any bullshit. I don't know if he's drinking a lot, bro.

Really? Yeah, he's investigating satanic pedophiles all day long. Yeah. Yeah. That's Theo and Joe getting into it, getting heated. having a great time and discussing Alex Jones losing a ton of weight to clean himself up. I mean, good for him. It's, you know, it's a big, big thing to do to kind of turn yourself around your life. And especially when, like they said, you spend your days digging into crazy conspiracies and things that are so dark.

And I would drink too. Yeah, there must get so exhausting. If that's all you're looking at. Right. At least watch like cute kitten videos. Yeah. For, you know, a few minutes a day. Just before bed. At least you won't have nightmares.

I can't imagine his sleeping is good, especially after the recent lawsuit issues that he's had. I will say one thing. Theo seemed sharper this time. Yeah. He was a little off last time. He kept asking Joe, like, is that making sense? Am I doing okay?

I'm freaking out. I don't know what was happening with him, but, uh, yeah, Joe was pretty good about just keeping the ball rolling and keeping the pod going. And I, you know, I think Theo got over it. But yeah, this time around, a bit more excited. Um, you know, and this, this is a bit of a kind of, uh, getting close to the inauguration. You know, Theo obviously played his part in, um, interviewing Trump.

And we know Rogan did. So I think that there's just more of that kind of conversation of what's happening right now to have between them. You know, again, it doesn't take anything away from the silliness and the fun of any time Theo comes on. But at the same time, it's like, hey, let's get into kind of what's going on. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with Theo. as his podcast continues to get big, he's still going to be Theo Vaughn, but with access to the type of people

that he can interview now, just because of the size of it, I wonder if he will start delving into more serious issues. And he has plenty of moments of being serious as well. Yeah, back to what you said first, like the Theo was on. Like he was on top form. Like he was himself.

and I said it in the last time he was on, which was not that long ago, that he seemed off, he seemed sad, I was feeling for him. I wanted to give him a big hug. I'm like, Theo, poor guy.

Like, let's bring you back to life. And over the last few months since then, big, he's had a big couple of months. And so that, that, well,

I guarantee played into his mindset and his demeanor. And, you know, I don't know, I don't follow Theo, podcast nearly as closely as Joe, but has Joe ever been on, he just recently went on Theo's podcast as well. And Joe's been on before. Oh, yes. Okay. I mean, I haven't had a chance to listen to it.

I don't know if anyone out there has, but I just imagine that having this like now, like, what's the word? It's like they've both interviewed Trump and they both like are sort of aligned and there are probably views right now and in their excitement for what's to come that there's sort of this like camaraderie that they have. It's a bit of an elite podcasting group. Yeah. Yeah. That they were in. I still am surprised that Trump

chose Theo only because, I mean, Theo is definitely big enough. His podcast is definitely big enough to warrant it. It just to me it was a surprising match and another surprising part of it was

that it was really good. It had some points that I was just like, oh, this is exactly what we want to be hearing from this conversation. And, you know, especially him getting into it about drugs or what cocaine does and just having Trump kind of analyzing the other end of it, it's still blows my mind that happened. I don't know if Theo was just like nervous or just being him or he must have been nervous. Oh, it had to have been. Yeah.

I mean, who wouldn't be? I think the only interviewer that wasn't was Rogan. I think Rogan was just Rogan with Trump It's kind of one of his Superpowers is that he can always just be Normal But you know what I said this to the other day

Rogan for a minute there He looked a bit red He looked a bit Inflamed Like must have been the holidays He caught the best of him It was the holidays But he's been looking really good

The last week or so Like just looks real healthy He seems to have a lot more energy And He's probably doing some Sober January stuff Yeah, probably. Just kind of giving himself a bit of a break.

Yeah. I think with the club and just the life that he has, and obviously, you know, he doesn't protect your parks and, you know, Shane's around. And it's probably just fun and exciting to just kind of fall back into going down to Mitzie's bar at your club and having a drink here and there. The end of the day, he's in his late 50s. Yeah. He's got to take breaks.

He knows it. and it'll work out for him when he does. And you probably do kind of see it in his face on the podcast. Yeah. You know, just like it's, I don't know, less round.

Yeah. A little bit. Yeah, it's interesting. It's like all of a sudden I was like, oh, he seems to look like way healthier today. You know,

just like way like less uncomfortable almost. And, and yeah, I mean, it's like he lost 10 years, you know? Yeah. He does all of his moments are looking swollen.

Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about the U.S. ban on TikTok. Yeah, they touched on that. It was, what, the 18th or 19th that they banned it? Yeah, the 90th. It was yesterday. Right. And, yeah, I think I wasn't sure it was going to happen. And it did for a very short amount of time, right?

Yeah. Um, the, I think it was, I think it was like shots fired across the bow. It's like a warning that something is to come. Look, we have the power to turn this off. We will play by our rules. Yeah. What rules are we looking for to be determined? But I think it's something like that happening. I mean, there must have been a shitload of wealthy TikTokers out there freaking out about this. Yeah, people have made seven figures. How do they make money on TikTok?

Is it just like YouTube, the more people to watch your, you know, dances or whatever the heck they're doing over there? I believe so. It's kind of like all those platforms are the same. Unfortunately, I've yet to figure it out for myself.

But, you know, it's like, you know, advertising numbers, subscribers, you can, you know, pay, you know, like similar to Patreon for, people for content creators. But yeah, people have done really well. It's been a great outlet for

a lot of individuals that have, you know, like, you know, a lot of my feeds are stay-at-home moms. And it's like it's been this outlet for them to be able to provide for their families. And I mean, of course, the big names, you know, there's the cat sicklers and things like that. They're like really, really, really, really popular. But just that your average everyday individual can do okay on these platforms if you are consistent and you create good content. And I think it's also an outlet just in general for people to kind of put their opinions and their thoughts and their energy into something and like just put it out into the void kind of. And then you can sort of like find this community of people that like aligns with you. Right. And so I was sure it wouldn't last

forever. It was too big, right? TikTok's too big to be banned forever. And the message said, you know, when people locked, you know, opened the app and they couldn't access anything. Our friend Donald Trump is, you know, promised to figure this out. And before the day was over, it was back up. Right. So they've come to some deal, it looks like. It's hard to say what, but yeah, the, the content before it went out and right out, and right after it came back was quite funny though like people being like oh here's all my dirty darkest secrets and here's all the things that i've been holding out on you to tell you but now that tictock's going away like i'm going to let it all out or whatever and people being like so sappy and dramatic and then

all of a sudden it's back oh quick and then they're like here we are they're like oh hi but maybe they felt that it was forever i mean yeah you know you never you couldn't have known you're you're supplying media to people in five second increments, you're the creator. Maybe they have the attention span of a goldfish as well. And if you tell them it's banned, they're like, that's forever. Yeah. There's no way around it. We can't be patient. Well, I mean, TikTok says online, 1.69 billion users. That's massive. That's a lot. I mean, that's just incredible. Yeah, it was funny. I saw a, it was a Babylon B. post and is like

Oh, they're great. It's like a Gen Z angry about TikTok ban for four seconds or six, four minutes or six seconds or something because that's as long as their attention's been the last thanks to TikTok. It's so good.

It's so good. And yeah, I mean, I do think there's good and bad with all these platforms. Like we've, you know, kind of when Mark Winnzak was on, we talked a lot about, you know, Facebook and meta and the good

and the bad with all of those. and obviously X has had its ups and downs with, you know, limiting content and things like that, but filtering it. But I think TikTok is great. I'm glad that it's back up for those content creators that make a living doing it. And I say keep entertainment coming. Yeah, I think this is a little different than the pressure that the Biden administration was putting on Facebook and before that Twitter that was very politically motivated.

This doesn't seem like, oh, this is Trump putting pressure on TikTok so that it has more right-wing content. I think it was just seen as a real national security threat potentially. It's just giving China so much access to the user's data. And, you know, there are adversary. And what are they doing with it? Yeah. I mean, in the same way, they banned Huawei phones. It's like they would have had tech in our hands.

Those phones are good. They could do a lot of things. They were super advanced. And at the same time, you know, they were finding out that it had a bunch of kind of software in there just siphoning information from. Yeah, but I mean, there are so much technology and goods and things that are produced in China that I feel like there's a potential that they're using. I mean, microchips and our phones and all these widgets and, like, they could absolutely be spying on us anyways. Right. I think the point is they're sending a message.

Yeah. They're saying, hey, don't make it. Don't be crazy with this stuff. Like, we're going to be on to you and it's going to cost a lot of money. I mean, I'm sure even, you know, banning TikTok for one day resulted in millions of dollars of lost revenue. So it's like a taste of what the government. is capable of doing. I wonder how many US users there are

because that 1.9 billion would be global, right? Yeah, yeah. It's still a lot. Anyways, it obviously was a message sent and received, I guess, supposed, turning it off, turning back on seemed to alleviate the concern enough that they felt like it was okay

to keep it back up. So, yeah, I guess we'll just wait and see. These two, they went on some pretty random topics, one of them being, like, you know, when you go to like a bar, like a gas station and they have those pickled eggs on the, they're very popular in England. Yeah. Many bars, what pubs we call them, but many have just a big jar of pickled eggs that may have been there for decades.

Nobody knows. It's so bad. One time you asked me to make him, and I'm like, not only do I have to boil, make hard, make hard-willed eggs, which I think are absolutely vile. And then I have to pickle them. And it's like, how could they get any worse? Oh, pickle them. It's so good.

You don't like pickled things? No, I do. I guess I do really like pickled things, but not eggs. Pickled protein. It's the way. Ew. Think about it. If you eat pickles, it's just like a cucumber.

useless. Yeah, pickled cucumbers. At least get some protein in that. Okay, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what it, because I very much enjoy almost all things pickled.

So maybe it would make it better, but there's something about an egg being pickled. Yeah, you just don't really like eggs. Yeah, I don't like it. But it's not that weird. Also, pickled onions are amazing. Yeah.

You know, I get what they're saying. No, in those gas stations, it's sometimes like, how long has this been on the truck for? Well, but like everything in gas stations is like questionable. So I don't know. Yeah.

It's not really any different. If you're worried about your health, you should not be eating much from a gas station. That's reasonable. On road trips, I'll do it. Yeah. Because, you know, you just kind of end up stopping that. What's your favorite road trip food? I always do some jerky, corn nuts of some flavor.

I'll mix that up. I don't know. That's pretty bad for your teeth. Not great. Okay. Not great for your teeth. Probably not great for your body. Yeah, no.

And then for some reason, I always do it, Dr. Pepper, and I never drink sodas. Yeah. But for some reason, that goes with road trips. I mean, you know, you're just trying to keep yourself going on the road. Yeah, yeah. I like Dr. Pepper, sour Skittles, any kind of chips. Yeah. Like, there's no rules.

Calories don't count on road trips. Gas stations have been supplying that type of thinking. Yeah. And desires for some time. And there is something about, like, you're not. eating a salad on the road. It's just so rare. Yeah.

Like they have all the delicious junk. Also, like one of the only times that we eat fast food, like, is on road trips, you know, because it's convenient and it makes sense. The only thing I will always stay away from, though, is that, like, little rotisserie sausage and, you know, they have, like, the, what are those chiquitos? How do you say that? Those things. Yeah, yeah. I know what you mean.

Anything rolling on the little spindles. I'm not, I'm just, I'm not touching it. Yeah. I can't do it. No. It's too much for me. Well, and I mean, sometimes the big gas stations,

they have like reasonable food. Like, but you know, I usually just go for anything in like the cold section. I'm like, that seems safer, but maybe not. Sometimes though you look at the sandwiches. And I don't know if you've ever noticed this, but they have like a two or three weeks. sell-by date.

And it's like, wait, this is butter and mayo and meat. What the heck have they put in this thing that allows it to last that long? And they don't, they don't taste the same as like any type of sandwich you'd get anywhere else. It's just preservatives. Special. It's just nice secrets. Secret sauce preservatives that America's great at feeding us. You think, you think RFK is just going to close all the gas stations?

I mean, that seems, it seems like a health disaster going on in there. Let's just start making a lot of noise about it. Talking about health. Red dies and gas stations. Talking about health. And just like the clip at the beginning, Alex Jones, a bit of a conspiracy online, even with his fans, he's been co-opted. Dun, dun, da, dun.

Yeah. Anything with Alex Jones is, you know, going to have a conspiracy. You're circling it somewhere. I think it is good that Joe is like, hey, I stay in contact with him. Yeah. We're texting. Yeah. Okay.

I know the guy. So the conspiracy goes that they've basically took him out of off the face of the earth and replaced him with a lookalike that's thinner and healthier and that they can control. Could be a robot Alex Jones. Because, of course, you cannot get healthy in America unless there's a conspiracy behind it. Or unless you're ill, right? Like mentally ill, right? Like there's no valid reason.

in America. So, you know. Maybe he's got O-ZMPIC. Yeah, like him and the rest of the country. Yeah. Did you see anything, any of the content from Golden Globes

and how thin everyone looked? No, was it all Ozympic stuff? I mean, yeah, it has to be. Like, I mean, maybe, maybe it's just like that much of a movement and the celebrities are really. It's not as gross as many medications because, like, it's better

than everyone being obese, right? Yeah. I don't really have a, too much to say about it other than the one person I know that's on it personally. We don't have to say. We won't say who, but. We got to keep certain things private. If I have to hear them say one more time that they just don't eat that much anymore

and that they're full, I'm going to throw some food at them. Yeah. It's like one of those things that I just, I'm like, okay, great, just stop eating then. But yeah, we spent quite a bit of time with this person over the holidays. love them to death, one of my favorite people in the whole wide world, you know. And, but I just wanted to be like, shut the fuck up. Like, I get it. You're not eating that much.

You're not hungry. It's a chemical, you know, response to this medication you're on. And they've lost weight and they look great and they feel better. It was like just rubbing it in all the other girls' faces that were binging through the holidays. Yeah. And they're just like, hey, I feel guilty about this already. Like, not only am I hungover. Having chocolate.

You know, like I'm, you know, chasing a toddler around. It's the holidays. There's all these snacks and sweets around. And I am hungry. Okay. Like, I'm having cravings. I want to eat. I want to drink.

I want to do all the stuff. And then it's just like constantly like, well, I just don't eat that much. I'm just full. And I'm like, okay. Love you. Stop that. Shut your mouth. Yeah.

The irony is give you six months. You're going to get a prescription to this and be saying the same damn thing. I bet it just happens. We just have ads for Ozembic. It's just. Every other ads. Oh, for the podcast. That would be hilarious.

No, I refuse to have any pharmaceutical ads on this. That's a good stance to have. Since COVID, I won't. Oh. Though saying that, I did have vape advertisers on once. And I'm like, oh, God. Did I do that really? Yeah.

Yeah. You're going to hell for that one. Well. But, you know, back to Alex Jones. You know, the government was pretty hard on him. And so maybe he just wanted. And plenty of people would say for good reason, too. I think, I think like a lot of celebrities, when they know they're going to be in the public eye, when they know there maybe is criticism about him another way, they try to find a way to like either have better publicity or, you know, just like have more people supporting them.

And honestly, I think he just wants to be healthy. He's not doing this for any level of fame. He probably just felt awful and was feeling the effects of being overweight and not. in shape and just said, hey, you know, parts of my life have kind of gone off the rails. Let's at least get some control over that. And fair play to him. He looks like a completely different person, just like Theo was saying. And yeah, of course, the conspiracy theories will come.

But Joey shares us, it's still Alex. Yeah. Don't worry. Yeah. It does make me think, is he coming on the pot anytime soon? Well, Alex Jones' episodes have always been the biggest. all up there. Yeah.

Like, they're definitely in the top 10 of all time. However, people, and, you know, some would say understandably, have got mad and probably put pressure on Rogan about him coming on, giving him a platform, X, Y, and Z. Then, of course, he had the big lawsuit thing. But, you know, that's settling down now. Yeah. He's paying his way. They're, I guess, selling off info wars.

I don't know the entire story there. There's some shenanigans going on with that. And, you know, he's getting in shape. And it's, as of today, Trump's American now. So maybe we'll see him back on soon. And I'm curious to see what he's thinking about and what he's up to and what other stories he's going to break. Yeah. I mean, get healthy, live longer, expose more, you know, things that are going on that we're not aware of.

I'm all about it. I'm excited to hopefully get to, you know, see what he's up to and see what else he can bring the light. I'm, yeah, it'll be interesting. Mm-hmm. Calling on you, Joe. Have him on. That's it.

Well, Theo is a huge UFC fan now. He's been going to the UFC for a while. It's some great footage of him. I think it was not the last UFC, but maybe the one before that. Supposedly he was there for, like, all. all the prelims, like early, early, sat alone, watching them for hours. Of course, Joe needs to be there. He's commentating that a lot of people don't show up till later.

Because it is. It's like, I don't know, six, eight hours of being there. That's a long time for an event. Supposedly, Theo was there the whole time. He's very good friends of Portier. He's getting to know other fighters. And, you know, having kind of more insight, more opinions in the scene, which I think is really cool.

They talk about Pahl Harris in this podcast and just explaining about his submissions, how there was some problems, how he often would hold heel hooks way too long, which just for those out there that don't know, the ones that blow your knees up and rip your ankles apart. I mean, they're horrific. When you get those on people, you've got to be very careful. When you're training with people and you're practicing those moves, you've got to go real gentle because you can go from no submission to a broken knee faster than anything else.

It's so quick. And if people are holding that too long and the referees are trying to get you off, half a second too long and it's, you're causing major possibly lifelong injuries for these poor fighters. So eventually he got kicked out of the UFC. they were talking about it, which is, that's kind of unusual. You know, it wasn't like he was just losing all the time, but it just was too dangerous. Yeah, I don't have a lot of reference for combat sports, never been involved.

But I know when you're watching them, and you can see when they do submit, like, the pain that they're feeling is like you can almost feel it with them. Oh, yeah, it's not. Horrible. And, you know, it's the only thing I can think of, I mean, maybe I can think of a couple other scenarios in which you can sort of relate to like this half a second in the real damages it can cause. But so, you know, like when you meet someone for the first time and they hug you and

they hug you for just like a little bit too long and you're like, okay, okay, let me go. All right. Thanks. And it's just like awkward and uncomfortable. Multiply that like discomfort by like $6 million and that's what you have here, right? that that was like the worst. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know if you could compare those two things. You know, it's like half a second. Maybe I'm thinking like the contrast of it. It's like half a second can be like uncomfortable and it can be like, you know, whatever. But half a second in this scenario. I guess where it lines up is there's an etiquette to a handshake.

Yes. There's an etiquette to a hug, especially with someone you don't know all that well, but you're kind of on hugging terms. Yeah. If it turns into a cuddle, big trouble. Somebody's broken some rules.

And the same thing. In mixed martial arts, there's an etiquette. Obviously, when they tap, you've got, like, you want to make sure the referee sees it. But the refs these days are good, they're on top of it. Yeah. And it's not uncommon that you'll see in a UFC fight. The tap comes and the pressure is released before the referee even gets there. Then it's kind of unwritten that, you know, the person that tap knows that they gave up and the other

person was giving them some grace. Holding those things for too long is just far too dangerous for those fighters. You would think, again, being someone that has no experience in combat sports, but when you're in a submission hold,

if you're the person that's put someone in a hold, like, you're anticipating the submission. Like you're waiting for it. It's not like, oh, maybe it's going to happen. And so there's absolutely no way it's an accident. Like he's, it's like, it's, this like show of strength and control and power and then like a bit of like um like um

sociopathic probably mindset that he has that he's like oh this is the right way to go about this because i've won and i'm in this like you know more powerful position and i'm just going to like just a half a second longer just to be like like stick it to him but in reality it's like i mean one it's illegal in the sport and two it's it's horrible and it ultimately led to him being ticked out. Yeah. I'm glad that that happened. I'm glad that they don't allow people to like push the boundaries in something like that.

It has to be a hard sport to manage and to like ref. Yeah. Dana's not looking for fighters that are going to basically injure half of his roster. I mean, there would be a disaster for the sport. Right. And, you know, on top of that, I hope that Theo, you know, possibly gets into training and starts doing some jiu-jitsu and does some more of it i think he's done some in the past but it would be really cool for him uh to start doing some m-m-ma on top of

everything else it probably help out of stress a lot he does he does tend to get pretty stressed and whatever you can do to relieve that is is solid talking about things that are stressing people out they talked about crackdowns in england on free speech Now, we're in England currently. The crackdowns aren't that too hard because we're saying whatever we want on this podcast and nobody's arrested us yet, but maybe they can't hear it. Yeah. You know, there are controversial social media posts that have been shown online and the police is showing up to people's houses. They're filming it and they're arresting these people.

you know, talking to some of my family members when I've questioned these things, they downplay it like it's nothing. And it's hard to know, right? Where is this happening? Who is it happening to? What have they all done? But we're definitely seeing a lot of that in America. And, you know, there's even a new bill, I think, that's getting passed or whatever they call the laws, how they do the laws here in the UK. But it's about they're basically stamping out types of speech even done at the pub. Yeah. Which is really like the, you know, a place of freedom for the working man to go have a drink and talk to their friends and say what they want. It's like obviously you can't be drumming up violence, you know. But if you're just having opinions and they're seen as controversial, and again, who decides what's controversial? You know, that's the scary part of this.

Yeah, I think being removed from, you know, a lot of the politics of the UK, having, you know, connections and family here, but also living in America and having our own tornadoes of things happening constantly over there. Like, you don't really, you know, I don't understand all of the, like, all of the things that are going on. But what I do know about the English and about British people is that they tend to be, or what I've observed, I won't say no. What I've observed is that they tend to be more like, submissive isn't the right word.

Like they just kind of go with the flow. They don't question the status quo. They, you know, like, for example. We like to cue. Yeah. Like, it's like, oh, there's like, you don't need like barriers to create a, like, you know, like the ropes to make a line in the UK. when there's a lot of people.

It's like just get in line. We get in line. We know how lines work. The recycling here is a bit extensive. And you got to separate your food and you got to organic in one. You got to do raw in the other and cooked in one. And you got to have trash and you got to separate your recycling. Everything gets washed and recycle.

And in America, I know that it is a thing, but it's not required. But here it's like almost expected and it's like looked down upon it. You get fine if you don't separate the trash. And so like fines here are like for things like that where it's like in America we're just like to throw it away. Like you have to pay to recycle in America. Right. Like you have to pay to be like eco-conscious. Right.

And here it's like you'll you pay if you aren't. And so that's sort of a totally other topic. But I'm just saying that the mindset of British people tends to be more like, oh, it's just how the rules are. We just go with it. I would say what I would expect in recent years that some of that in the political, circle like in political climates like people are getting louder people are getting upset like Brexit a lot of people are really upset about Brexit and what has resulted as you know since then costs of things have gone up and whatever so I imagine people are starting to get a bit angrier and

have a lot more to say and um yeah it's a bit like dystopian to think about like going to the pub or posting something on it online and then you know someone's showing up at your door and arresting you like it's kind of hard to comprehend but i mean they what they're trying to avoid is like people inciting a riot ultimately and um yeah i mean i guess that's how they they kind of pose it but it's yeah you know that's anytime you're road free speech you can put any labels on it for why safety and concerns and just for the greater good and you know really all you're doing is just always taking a right away from an individual right and and that's it and then where do those rights go eventually they all go to the state and we've seen what happens when the state's fully in charge

of all the rights yeah it's ugly yeah it's not good people die people get incarcerated it's it's it's not a way to live. No. You know, obviously there's a range. You know, it doesn't mean just because this law came in, the whole country goes that way. But it's something to keep an eye on. I don't like the sound of it. It's a big part of the reason why I love America as much as I do.

And I live there. Yeah. Because I think that the laws align far better with what I believe than otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pretty much all Theo had to say about it. was that's wild. Yeah.

That's wild. He says that about a lot of the things. But, you know, it truly is. It's, it's scary to think about. And, you know, I mean, it's a bit like, you know, you imagine how life is in places like North Korea. You know, you can't say anything. You can't think anything. You can't act in a certain way.

No. You know, even places like, I think it's Japan. You have like a, like a social credit score, basically. No, it's China. China where you like get rated if you like do something. something like the people don't like you know um i don't know i don't know how i feel about it ultimately i mean obviously i don't believe in limiting free speech but um there are some things that i wish people would say less there's some things i wish people would shop about uh there's some things

that i'm like can you be done talking about that maybe you can only talk about it for a short amount of time you know like but it doesn't need to be laws about it it's just like just don't talk to them there should be an etiquette right don't watch that channel yeah don't listen to to that thing. Didn't Theo bring up weighted blankets? What was the weighted blanket? They were screwing out some random stuff at the beginning. Weighted blankets, and it sort of like rolled into like...

They are good. You know, oh, yeah, you used one before. I approve. Yeah, they're great. I don't know. He was talking about some, you know, the way some weak kid that got trapped under one. And then I think he started, you know, basically talking about... How heavy was that blanket?

You can get them really heavy. I mean, they can be considered like a medical device or for people with, like, sensory issues. So... Just ties you down. Yeah, I don't know. I never looked... I didn't look up exactly the context he was talking about. The story he said was like a malnourished child under like an 80-pound blanket or something.

I'm like, okay, that feels weird. But, you know, they also talked a bit about... like autism, which I think, you know, that's what these blankets typically are designed for is like children with autism or individuals with autism. Yeah, you're definitely on the spectrum. But, you know, and then he made a joke like that autistic people are like the bridge between like humans and machines. Like Elon Musk is like the definition of like high functioning autism, right? Yeah, that's definitely the autism that I would choose to have. You identify as Elon Musk type?

No, no, I would just like to. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, me too. I would like to have the type of autism that makes me a rocket scientist and the richest man in the world. Yeah. And, you know, and it's, and it was funny, their conversation sort of bounced around between, like, what's causing autism? And, like, you know, obviously the, like, they brought up environmental factors, you know, technology. We're addicted to technology. We're addicted to plastic. We have hormones in our food.

Is it messing up our genetics? And ultimately, is that why we're seeing higher, case higher numbers of autism, higher rates of autism? They did say they liked onions. Yeah. Onions came up. Yeah, that was random. But yeah, onions are amazing. Yeah. I was like tuned in instantly. I was like, this is me a great podcast. We're talking about Onions. What else do they have to say? And then we kind of died out.

But they did a quick search of like, what's the nutritional aspect of onions? People don't know. I didn't know. There really isn't much. There's a lot of vitamin C. They like to use the word phyto-nutrients with onions. Okay. Now, there's a thing you know I do.

Anytime I'm sick. Yeah. I like to mix. Chop some onions up and put them in a thing of honey. Yeah. Like a jar. And you leave them over and. night and then the honey gets very watery.

Take the onions out and then it's like this watery little soup and you just have a couple of spoonfuls each day or whatever you want when you feel sick and it makes you feel better. Yeah, it has like some antibacterial, anti-microbial properties or something like that. Some healthy stuff in that. Some healthy stuff and they're fucking delicious. Yeah. French onion soup.

I mean, incredible. Yeah. I agree with them. I want onions and everything. Let's go. Let's go. All right, let's finish up with a little bit of the Mexicans versus Puerto Rico feud that they discussed. What came up because they were talking about like.

Who's the hardest worker, right? Well, yeah, it was like, I don't understand the stereotype that like Mexicans are lazy. And I actually never, I don't know. I've never heard that. I've heard it for another ethnic group. I'm not going to say it because I don't. I'm not racist, but I... We're in the UK, we can't afford to get cancelled right now.

Stop this. But there was like, well, one group thinks the other one is and, but then this is like, you know, the reality of it. And, and then, you know, it circled back to like the feud that existed from boxing and stuff like that. So, like, in recent, you know, in past history, it had to do more with like... Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are good boxes. Yeah. For sure. And that's where, like, this, like, cultural...

like riff started and then it rolled into like modern day times of like oh who works harder and you know whatever right it was a bit lighthearted cocaine i don't know you know like well the columbians oh yeah everyone knows that but yeah it was lighthearted it was a fun silly ending and um yeah just to finish up it is january 20th rogan was at the inauguration the year went as well Yeah. Pretty interesting. Theo was on a bus with Jake Paul, Logan Paul, and Connor McGregor. Yeah.

We'll chat with each other. And that's interesting. I've never, you know, Theo were getting a chance to talk to Connor. Pretty cool. Connor seemed more interested in what Logan and Jake were up to. Yeah, I haven't caught up with all the... He was just probably messing with him. But, yeah, big changes in the U.S. today.

A lot. was said by Trump. And he's basically, as we speak, writing a bunch of laws into place to minimize what just happened with all the Biden stuff. So we're going to see. We'll see what happens. More on that to come. More on that to come.

But anyway, thanks so much for listening. As always, check out the Patreon. And we will talk to you all soon. Cheers, Joel.