Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Joe Rogan Experience Review 184

Episode Date: October 29, 2019

This week we review episode 1367 Bridget Phetasy, episode 1369 Christopher Ryan, and 1370 Brian Grazer. Bridget Phetasy is a writer who regularly works for Playboy (as a writer!) and comedian with a podcast called Walk-Ins Welcome. Christopher Ryan is the host of the podcast Tangentially Speaking and co-wrote the book Sex at Dawn with Cacilda Jethá. Brian Grazer is a film and television producer, who co-founded Imagine Entertainment with Ron Howard.  Join us for another international episode and see if Adam survived Sober October and if Mark has survived the Southern California fires. (Spoiler alert: Only one  did.) https://www.bridgetphetasy.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Ryan_(author) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Grazer Follow us on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email us here with any suggestions and questions for future shows.

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Reduce, reutiliza, recicla, ecómbes. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. ¡You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts, Adam Thorn, and Mark Hampton. This might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. Welcome back to another edition of the JRE review. How you doing Mark?

Good, fires all around, how's Paris? No fires, lots of wine. Nice. Yeah. Sounds like a good time to be away from LA. I think you picked the perfect fucking time to be away from LA. It's a little... This should all happen while I was asleep. So I just woke up to Instagram videos,

like a thousand Instagram videos of people driving the 405 with the like, sub-pollative ass, just the hills on fire right next to the Getty Museum, which is terrifying to load. Those works of art are priceless. But I also lived two miles from there and that's a little scary too so he's like oh shit I could have this all happened while I was asleep yeah well Rogan was talking

about this he just recently moved from an area where he's been evacuated a few times and and he said on the pod actually the one just gone because he's referencing the same fires. He was like, well, we were considering moving to the Palisades, but there were fires there too, right? There's nowhere safe. You've got to, I mean, if you want to get away from fires in Southern California,

you need to move to Iowa. Like, here you go. I mean, it's just like, it's October's fire season and we all kind of know it. I don't know, run, maybe we should just install a sprinkler system throughout California and just run it in October because wetwood doesn't catch fire because we know as fire season, the Santa Ana is blow in for those of you not from California, Santa Ana is or this, this, this winds that come in from I guess the southeast, I think, super dry winds.

So it zaps all the humidity out of the air. One point was like 1% humidity. So it zaps it all out of the air. So there's no moisture whatsoever at all. It's like desert climate, desert environment, and then a little bit of smoke, a little bit of fire, and ash from a cigarette can cause massive devastation, lightning, a power line going out, campfire, anything, there's zero humidity to snuff out any fire. And that's what happens in October, and it happens every fucking October now. happens every fucking October now. Yeah, my older roommate is a fireman. And I would talk to him about I'm like, well, what can they do? You always expect people in

that in the position, you know, of knowledge and expertise to be like, Oh, well, really, what you need is this and better and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he just looked at me and you shake his head and be like, I don't know, wait till it stops burning. Pretty much. That's what you have to do. Pray for rain.

Pray for rain, rain dance. Let's bring the rain dance back for real, man. This is really not much to do. I mean, while I was still alive, let's cover the recent weeks podcasts. Some interesting ones. We had a comedian, a philosopher, and a Hollywood producer. All really very interesting, very fun. I liked them. It was nice. Sometimes when

I don't know who a guest is, obviously it's a bit of a shit show. You never know where it's going to go, the conversation. But first off we have Bridget, Fetise, 1367. She's the host of the Dumps the Fire podcast of which I listened to a little bit the other day. Very fun. She also writes for Playboy magazine, which is a pretty cool job. And wow, I mean, what a start.

Within 20 minutes of that podcast podcast she was really getting into her life talking about drug problems talking about sexual abuse when she was younger. I mean, I think the initial question was what made you become a comic and it immediately goes back to trauma, but you just don't expect it to be that deep. Well, I, um, I think a lot of artists draw on trauma is just a way of, uh, it's content. It's because art is eventually what is always about what you have to say, what you have to say about the world, how you express yourself. Um, I think there are probably artists, they're going to be pretty supposed to art anyway, but this is what she has to say. This is what she can joke about. This is what she can talk about. This is what she has to offer to the

world at large. And I think a lot of people, especially artists, because they're deep-feeling human beings, I think they come at art that way. This is, you know, from your experiences. I mean, the first thing you learn when you're a writer is write what you know, and I kind of feel like it's that sense. Do you think that a lot of art in general is kind of like not just an expression of emotion, but maybe like individual therapy almost for the people? Not to go too deep with it, like, you know, we don't really fucking know what we're talking about, but, but I mean, when it comes to, like, drawing a painting that has a lot of emotion and maybe like, perceived pain in, that's one thing, right? But when

you do it as stand up, you're also putting your body, your, your person in that place of pain almost, because you could bomb. You could completely collapse and you're trying to find good and something positive out of something potentially horrific. And it's like the people that have felt this discomfort and this madness before are almost prepared for it. It's almost like taking damage, but then saying, you know what, this is a resume. This is actually something useful and this is how to express it. It's almost like taking damage, but then saying, you know what, this is a resume. This is actually something useful and this is how to express it.

Absolutely. I mean, comedy is pain plus time. You know what I mean? That's what it is. I don't know if it's therapeutic or it might be therapeutic. I don't know if it's valuable therapy. I had an old acting coach a years ago is it be very, very wary of acting as therapy? Because you don't have anyone to guide you, you can get lost in the weeds, you can end up worse than you were. But I do think there is something, there has to be at least something healing about

being able to talk about what you went through and laugh about what you went through, right? And again, it goes back to what you know. You're dealing with what you know as a you know as an artist and I think that's I think this valuable for them and that's what they have to talk about. I mean what what brought? Let's talk about us. What brought you to comedy? Do you, I mean, you were more of an examination comedian. You like to take a look at things in the world, examine them, poke holes on them, make fun of them, kind of thing.

I don't feel like you, you haven't drawn from your personal stories as much. You're more of an analytical comedian. And would you say that's accurate? Yeah, that's right. I mean, yeah, that's an interesting question. What did bring me to it? I think it's just that it's hard. It's really difficult. Right.

And it was scary. I mean, it was more scary than it was difficult in that sense. There's hard things, right? There's a lot of hard things Sure, but but the fear portion just the idea that that you know not being like a creative person quote-unquote You know, I went to school for like scientific endeavors. I never did drama. He wasn't that person So the idea of

Expressing myself that way and watching others do it was always amazing to me, even from a little kid. I just never put it together that it could be something you do. And then when I didn't like what I was doing, a lot like what Joe's podcast says, I mean, if you're in a cubicle and you hate your fucking job, look, you can stay there forever. Or you can really just say, no, I don't wanna do it. I don't wanna do this shit. I think there's another way. And it all was kind of part and parcel,

I mean, together in that way. And I think that's what I draw from, in a sense, when I go back and write any comedy and do it. Like you said, I don't think I'm ready to talk about my past. I'm too new to it. And you said, I'm not, I don't think I'm ready to like talk about my past. I'm too new to it. And when they say you find your voice, you like you really figure out who you are,

I probably will a lot more then because I'll be able to find the funny out of it instead of like, oh, that was awful. Mm-hmm. But now I can just poke fun at the world. It makes me feel like. Exactly. I kind of feel like I'm not in a way to or at least

that's how I want my comedy to be. I want to poke fun at the world, poke fun of the stupid world. Like, poke fun at the world. New wants. Yeah, because I don't, I mean, I, I think we all have some trauma from childhood. I mean, I have talked in my set about like being bullied when I was younger and I was a skinny rail of a kid who didn't care about school. You know, and I come from, you know, there's a lot of addiction in my family,

but I can't really talk about the trauma inflicted by my alcoholic father because he was actually quite a jovial drunk. So he was really, he was kind of, he was way worse sober. But all he did was use guilt trips't really he was kind of he was way worse sober That's but all he did was use guilt trips So he just kind of became a Jewish mother when he was a when he was sober and it's I can't really talk about that in terms of like Why that's horrible trauma because nobody like fuck off because really it wasn't that bad

You just try to guilt trip me into like mowing the lawn or Finding the remote or doing the dishes. It really wasn't that bad. So yeah, but I've always examined life through a comedic lens and I like to, I'd like to look at things. I like to see the way things are built and tell you why it's stupid. That's how I like to overcome it. Yeah, that's, I think everyone likes to do that. I think it makes everybody feel a little bit better because we all probably feel stupid.

And none of us know anything works. So to get to break something apart and be like, oh, isn't Uber dumb? Well, isn't the car pulling systems stupid? Exactly. And just to kind of do those, everyone can kind of get a bit of relief from it. They're like, yeah, that's good.

The food trucks, like you so famously talk about in your set, which I thought was hysterical. Yeah, that's good. Food trucks. Like you so familly talking about when you're set, which I thought was a sterile. Yeah. Well, yeah, because there's things and that's the thing though, even if you like, I actually like food trucks. I know, but it's not funny to say you like them. It's way funny to say that you don't and you shouldn't like them. You know, so with anything from the past, like, I think that's what will happen. There's stories, you know, like Bridgett even

talked about a little bit. She doesn't talk about the terrible things that happen directly, but she just makes something crazy out of the story, find the comedy, and like anything, you just work it. It's, I think it's just being brave enough to say, this is what I'm gonna talk about, and I'm gonna find the funny,

and I don't go at it that way yet. But I want want to one day I want to be kind of I was I was talking to a young comic the other day and he was talking well he was he wanted to get into comedy he was talking about and he goes you know how do you go about it and I was like man best there's a million types of comedy there's a million different ways to go about it but if I could give you the best lead in possible, it would be what's the most embarrassing thing or worst thing that ever happened to you? What did you learn and how can you relate that

to other people's experiences and then make jokes out of it? And if you can do that, you know, because it's storytelling, it's essay writing and it's pain, so there's the funny. If you can do all those three things, and you can tell a joke, you can probably come up with a set. You can probably come up with five minutes. That was my philosophy.

I was like, go about that, because pain is funny. If you can wrap it around what you learned, that's even better. And then if you can make the audience go, oh yeah, I totally know what you're talking about. That's the kudegra, I think, of comedy. When people are like, he's so right. You know what I mean?

I like that. Yeah, that is a good way of doing it. It's difficult though for people. It's oftentimes, anytime I've sat and written with people before, I've seen that you give that advice. It's logical, it makes sense, but it's almost impossible for people initially to turn something difficult, a challenge into something funny. It's just not how we see it. We kind of think, oh, it's got to be

a funny story that we already have, but it just doesn't work like that. That's why there's so many hours of staring at that fucking blank page going, what am I doing? Well, if it were easy, everybody could do it. That's it. That's it. The big thing that Bridget talked about is getting frustrated with like the whole social justice shit, right? And and social justice warriors, you know, and and then she's talking about these like men that are made of mush. Because of course she gets a lot of letters

for, you know, from guys that write into the, her playboy like column or whatever, or just like they hear back from her. And then she has to like put it together, make sense of this, right? And being a comedian, you can't help but stay in tune with the social justice shit, because you're always under attack from the things that you say, especially if you say crazy shit like she does.

Of course, she's very funny, though, by the way. You know my take on it, this social justice stuff just drives me mad. Especially when men are jumping on board. I just wish it was sincere. I just don't believe it is Yeah, it feels like another way of getting laid sometimes doesn't it? It has to be I Mean we when you hear him talk it has to be that way. It's like they're just it's they're soft They're soft. And when, when I hear a woman pointed out, like it just affirms it to me, you know, because if, because if it

wasn't the case, I think women would really want to look for men to be like that. They'd be like, no, we want you to be sensitive. This is much better. This is great. But I think they're just coming up against they go, and what the fuck is this? She brings up Jordan Peterson, right? Do you know who he is? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so Jordan Peterson is like the psychologist from Canada who has been on Rogen a bunch of times.

He's part of their like, doc web society. And he, and she was saying how surprising it is, because I don't know if she had an opinion about him, but plenty of women don't really care for what he stands for, because he has a bit of a bad rap for being like, I don't know, like sexist or something, but a lot of it's taken out of context.

He's just misrepresented, and he's kind of easy to pick on because he's very direct with the way that he speaks. He doesn't really sugarcoat things. But she gets these letters in and she's like amazed at how many men have said this guy is really fucking helped me out. I had no direction. I didn't know what to think or like, you know, I didn't have a father figure. I just didn't have guidance. And this person really helps me put the pieces together. And I agree. I think he's excellent for a young man to kind of give you some rules to live by that really will help you orient yourself. Right.

And I got a lot out of him. I didn't even know he was the last of my mid-30s. And I'm like, this fucking guy knows what he's talking about. But Joe brings up an important thing. And it was going back to that whole social justice thing. And it's like, Joe says, Jordan, like, and it was something that he was repeating from Jordan Peterson. He goes, you don't want to be a nice person. You want to be a dangerous person who chooses to be nice. Yeah. Now, when you hear something like that, it's very controversial, right? You can see a lot of people would be like, that's bullshit.

You need to be nice. But I mean, he's a psychologist. He's really looking at it from like, okay, this is what these studies are showing. This is what the focus of these studies show, like how you should behave, how you will be perceived. And I couldn't agree more of that statement. You know that's kind of like the way that I talk anyway. Absolutely.

I mean, if it's not jujitsu, if it's not whatever, I'm like, you need to be ready. But choosing to be nice is always what you want to do. Right. Always. That's always the goal. Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's an evolutionary biology. I mean, if you go back to the dawn of time, the dawn of civilization, humanity, men guard the cave. I mean, that's just inherent in our DNA.

That's where we are. Bill Mar famously said, talking about women who say they want a man that isn't afraid to cry. He goes, you say that, but then they do it five times and you kind of be fucking over it. And I always laughed at that. And I'm like, it's true. And I think that's the way he says that is really excellent.

A dangerous man that chooses to be nice. I would mesh along the lines of, you wanna know your guy can guard the cave, but he doesn't have to be mean about it, you know? It's like somebody tough, somebody that can stand up for themselves, somebody masculine, but that is kind. That's how I like to do it.

I got no need to have a loud bark. I'm really happy to be nice. That's just me. You know what I mean? I'm happy to be nice, kind, accommodating polite to everyone, because I'm not afraid of them, I guess is the way I think of it. Yeah, it's having the capacity to be aggressive in the right moment for the right reason is not the same as being an aggressive person, and that's the same for being dangerous.

Like, it doesn't mean that you're a danger to people. It means that you can actually keep people safe. I have a friend that he is the epitome of just the nice guy, and you see it in his behavior, especially in the way he interacts with women. But interesting thing is, as I've watched him, because I love to do these socio-observations of men and the way they behave, and I watch him, and I'm like, the nice guy tactic is, that's what it is. It's a tactic. It's just a way

to gain favor, to get in good graces, to get laid as it were. I was like, this is just a strategy. I'm not sure this is really who you are deep down inside. I feel like this is just your strategy. And I think when women talk about nice guys, and they're not interested in nice guys, I kind of feel like that's what they're talking about. What do you think? Yeah, they're not talking about men being nice.

They love anyone that's nice. They want you to back it up with the ability to not have to be nice in a particular situation to believe that people aren't looking out for that. Look, I can't speak for women, I'm a guy. Of course. But I date generally very sweet women. They're always very sweet, they're lovely. They're not like the type that will

yell out if some shit goes down. They won't be like fuck you too. Like it's never those were I can't stand Buzz like that. I just can't. I'm like they're gonna get me killed. It's so It's like, you know, I mean in each of our own you speak however you want to for your life like do it however you want Of course for me. It's just who I'm attracted to and that is that sweetness. But even though oftentimes they would never admit it, like even my current girlfriend wouldn't admit it. But I know she feels safe. She doesn't have to worry.

She knows that even though maybe I'll get annoyed about something at a restaurant or I'm getting a bit kind of worked up where I don't need to be. That's just always something that she's like, you know, really me in from. She just reels me in like, all right, calm down. I'm like, okay, all right, I'm fine, I'm cool. But when the shit goes down,

she just does not need to be concerned. She's like, okay, he's gonna take care of this. We're gonna be safe. It's gonna be fine. You know, not just gonna stand there and get pushed over. And I have very, very nice friends, some of the nicest people I've ever met. But there were also strong individuals.

You never see it, often it rarely comes out, but they always have that gear. They have that gear to like step up and do what's necessary. And I just think it's important. I think it's an important factor. And I don't think men feel good when they don't have it. That's when they turn into social justice worries. They're trying to find that power

and they're doing it down a very strange avenue. Right. I don't know. I could be completely wrong, but it just seems like. No, I get it. I mean, I understand the social justice movement. I understand where it's born out of. I understand a social justice movement. I understand where it's born out of. I understand a lot of it is born out of being sick and God damn tired of being the butt

of jokes and being the butt of oppression, whatever. And Chris Cuomo was on Bill Marr Friday night and he had a really good analogy. He goes, you can't deal with things in one size fits all. He goes, you have to use a scalpel. And I think that's where we've kind of, I think your backlash against PC culture is, I think, justified in a lot of ways because we're using a one size fits all when there is scalpel because there are nuances to all of these problems and there are nuances to jokes and there are nuances to situations

and life is complicated and the way things are perceived are complicated and I don't think one size fits all well at all. You know what I mean? I think you have to approach things with a scalpel. But yeah, you're going back to the point you were making that, yeah, a lot of times it feels like a tactic to get laid. I don't know.

Well, I think that's what Bridget was really getting at in a sense. I mean, think she's in a very unique position because she writes about this professionally and she's a comedian, so she can say silly things, but she's dated a very unique position because she writes about this professionally and she's a comedian so she can say silly things But she's dated a lot. She's had tough times with men She's you know she's had to deal with you know some rough situations which she talks about in the podcast and then now She's sat there men are like coming to her to like tell their story or give advice So she has a lot of data really in a sense. And she's able to make these comparisons from strong man

writing into weaker man or men that are lost or men that are finding themselves. There's probably a pattern through the letters of vocab and dialogue that she can put together and be like, I think this guy is in a much better position than this other one who's trying to complain about X, Y, and Z, and always trying to stick her for women, blah, blah, blah. I find it interesting because she didn't go into it like that. It was a bit of a shock for her, and it's easy to have that predisposed thought that they're nice, so they must be nice. That's the best way to be. Let's look at the picture as a whole

and kind of put it together, right? Yeah. I mean, you gotta think about that. If you can have kids, you gotta think, well, how the fuck am I supposed to raise them? Am I raising them to be nice? Am I raising them to be strong then occasionally nice? I don't know.

Dude, I want good information. I'll give you the best example I could think of. And I was pretty proud of this. I was talking to this young man this weekend and where I because I bounced at a club, salsa dancing and things like that. This one guy was younger dude and he didn't really know how to dance there. Well, he's just there for a good time or whatever. He said this girl who's really into and they were kind of flirting and then she went out on the dance floor.

And she was a really excellent dancer. And he said to me, he's like, oh man, she's so good. I have no shot with her. And I was like, yo dude, let me give you this straight. You let her decide what she's into. You let her decide what she wants in a man and what she's looking for in a man. She gets to decide that. I said, the best you can do is just go be the best man you can. I

go improve yourself, improve yourself across the board, learn to cook, learn to do artistic things, learn a phenomenal trade or have a good career. Do things that make you happy. Become a full person across the board, not to get women, but just to be a full person. And the byproduct is you will find a wonderful match in that world out there. It may not be the girl that is a phenomenal dancer because she might want know, she might want the spectacular dancer because that's what they'll bond over. I said, but then she may not want that at all because a lot of say also dancers are players and they're swathed and things like that. I can say that I worked in this damn dentistry, doing bouncing and bartending

for like 11 years. I know that whole social scene and no one would disagree with me. But I was like, you just focus on being the best man you can and let the chips fall where they may. And that's kind of how I approach that. It's like, I remember it was a couple of years ago, I decided I just want to be a really good man not to get women, but just to be proud of who I am as a human being, have honor, respect, and be, you know, I think well appreciated. That's how I approached it, and it's made me happy. That's all that advice. Wait, you gave this advice while working the door to some dude at the bar?

Yeah. Dude, that's awesome. That should have been, that honestly, you should be its own show. That's right. Advice from a door man. But it's true, and I followed it up with saying, I was like, what the fuck?

Well, I followed it up with saying to him. And I was like, so, you know, don't let, don't decide what she wants. You let her decide what she wants. I said, however, if she doesn't want you, you accept that and move the fuck on, leave her alone. And I was like, and that's just as important. I was like, no one you're beat.

If she doesn't want to go out with you, she didn't want to talk with you, she didn't want to dance with you, then leave her the fuck alone. Like there's no, like move on. Find someone that works with you. It's like, don't impose your will on her. That doesn't go with being the best man you can be.

Anyway, that's the end of my story. Yeah, no, you're certainly much nicer than me. I would have just said, so you're standing too close and I don't care why you're not getting late. Oh, I've done that too I told this one guy he was up on me. I said yo, I'm not Santa Claus to get off my fucking lap He was like oh, I'm sorry It is so weird the conversation you look a psychologist when you're working the door half the time you really are more than the bartender drunk and it's stupid what they get into.

You're like, fuck man, I gotta hold this conversation. Yep, well. Next up, Chris Ryan. Chris the Forrine podcast 1369. Now he's not a psychologist, but he's a philosopher. And a very smart one. He's a super chill dude. He wrote the book, Sex at at Dawn and has a new one called

Civilized the Death. I haven't read either of these, but Joe talks about the Sex at Dawn one. It has some pretty strange theories in. Something about the size the genitals get, and the bigger the genitals, the more promiscuous, the females in that species, something like this. Interesting. I don't know if this is biologically based, but again, he's a thinker and he has a podcast called Tan Gently Speaking and he does it from a little sprinter van and travels all over the country meeting really interesting people and that's how he kind of mostly makes his living when he's not, I guess, on speaking tours or getting paid to write books. So very, very cool guy, very cool guy. And an interesting thing that he started off, and it's kind of along the same lines, right? He's talking about, he talks a lot about sex and openly, like, you know, his experiences with things and he was talking about a relationship he had.

I can't remember if he said it was his wife or not, but somebody who was with that spoke a different language. And he was speaking a different language to them, like, during sex, but he never does that, like, like, Spanish. Sure. Right, because he knew some Spanish. Sure. Right? Because he knew some Spanish. And she was disgusted by it. She was like, get off me, get away from me. And the point he made is that he notices with his girlfriends and wives that they almost

have different, not just gestures and mannerisms when they speak different languages, but almost like different personalities. They almost become a different person. And he noticed this while very, very high. It sounds like a very stoner thing to do anyway. But that's what he noticed. So his theory was when he like spoke a different language to her during this intimate moment. She almost saw him as a different person and was like repulsed. I'd never heard anything like that before. What did you think of that whole discussion? That was really fascinating to me and I can see that

because I know, because I do impressions in my stand-up act, I do voices, I do accents, and I definitely feel, and this is just coming from my back, I do voices, I do accents. And I definitely feel, and this is just coming from my perspective, I definitely feel a different set of freedom, so that if I do throw like, I gotta do a bit about a New York guy, and I throw on the New York accent, I feel completely free to kind of say whatever I want. I feel like a tough guy, you know,

kind of like our buddy Eddie that we know. Versus, you know, if I threw on a French accent or if I'm doing Bernie Sanders or whatever, I kind of fit into that mold, I have no idea. And I can only imagine that because language is so intertwined with culture. I mean, you can be, you could talk about Spanish from Mexico, you could talk about Spanish from Spain,

those would be very different. But I'm sure it would awaken something because, I mean, how many times have people called those who speak English, stiff uptight, especially, you know, like the stiff upper lip and Britain, or the uptight white guy in the United States. So I definitely see that, and I imagine if that came out, you know, he might see, it might embody

a different personality, at least for that person that he was with. I do notice that with comedians when they're doing an accent, especially an extreme one, from their own, they do get very silly with it. Like it's almost like that is silly than they would ever get if they just did their own accent. they were them as a character being silly. It's almost like they can go further when they do an accent as well. Yeah. Hey, if the fires get too bad and you end up just burning to death, just give me a sign and I'll just continue on my own, but you know the show goes on, right?

No, I know, I'm fine. It's just one spot. I'm just kidding. I've already gone through three glasses of water in like the last half hour. Keep drinking. Just get up, drink some more. I'll keep talking, don't worry.

It'd be like a Joe Rogan bathroom in Berwick. They talk about some interesting things too, like superstition in general, like end-to-placebo effect. So we know the placebo effect works. Yep. But then in a sense, superstition can work almost with the placebo effect. Sadly, most superstition is like in the negative direction. Right. But do you ever notice like the nice ones, like the positive ones?

I'm not, I don't consider myself a superstitious person, right? At all. For the negative ones, I won't be like, oh, a cat crossed me or I walked under a fucking ladder or I stood on a crack. But, but oftentimes if I see a penny that's heads up, I just pick it up. I don't even remember where I heard that or if that's even properly a thing. But if it's heads up and I see a penny, I just pick it up. And I'm like, hmm, I'll take the good luck ones, because if there is a placebo effect in there, why not? It doesn't hurt to believe it, right?

Of course not. It's probably good for you to believe it. I'm not damning myself. Well, they talk about voodoo death. I'd never even heard of this, and I Google it afterwards, and it's like people that think that they had voodoo curses on them,

and they believe in voodoo. Like, can fucking die. Yeah. voodoo curses on them and they believe in voodoo like confucking die Yeah, if they're like oh you'll die at the end of the week or whatever They they work themselves up so much that they actually die Mm-hmm. Well then how the fuck could you ever prove if the voodoo was even working or not? That seems insane I mean, I think that's the police seatbo effect again, because I don't believe in voodoo. So it's going to have to believe that's the police seatbo effect. It works

themselves into a fucking frenzy and it kills them. And it's mind over matter. It works in both ways. You know, you hear about it. Yeah, but if you ask them and you ask their family and the other people that believe in voodoo, they'd be like, no, that was the fucking voodoo. She didn't have a choice. The curse was already there and we'd be like, yeah, no, there's nothing there. It can't exist. They're like, can. And she died. So you're wrong. And you'd be like, oh shit, maybe you were wrong. I mean, sure, they can, they can, they can think that and they died. But I mean, you can, I mean, people that shit happens, I'm sure it does. I'm sure people work themselves up into fucking frenzies where they end up dying

or they convince their brains so much that they're gonna die, that they fucking die. But, you know, I think it's important to go ahead. Go on, sorry. No, I was saying you could put a food who occurs on the lake and I'd be fine in seven days because I don't believe that shit. I'd be like, okay, well, get out of the way crazy, lady.

I gotta go to work. Yeah. Well, obviously, right? But I, that's kind of how they do it. It's like it only works if you believe or don't believe. And that's why it's important, I think, to consider what positive placebo effects you could have. Sure. You know, like recently you had what, consider what positive placebo effects you could have.

Like recently you had what, you had your back issue, you had some muscle spasming. If there was like a way to be like, okay, what actually works? What's good? Go out into nature, walk in nature, go to the ocean. Like, if there was just some things that I guess for each person, it's probably slightly different. Absolutely. You know, I think they talked on this podcast about if you're sick in a hospital.

If you have a window that faces some trees rather than facing a building, you're like more likely to recover from it. I don't know how the fuck they got that data, but it sounds very placebo-y to me. It does. Well, because the brain is, the way we stimulate the brain is so important to our overall health, and even our outlook,

I mean, they've done studies about how people who just think more positively have happier, healthier, longer lives. I'm not saying positivity is the cure to depression or anything, but I think all things being equal, you get a set, you get a set of people, one group thinks positively and is exposed to positive stimuli, you know, sunny days, nature, things like that versus people that think negative thoughts and are exposed to like cloudy days, rain, I think you're probably going to see an overall positive effect on the one group that is, effect is introduced to positive stimuli versus the other one.

I mean, I think they've done many studies on that. Seasonal effectiveness disorder. I mean, just people that live in Seattle get so fucking depressed during the winter because it's so cloudy and rainy all the time. People in Alaska that actually lose the sunlight for a few months out of the year because of the way of where Alaska is in rotation or in reference to the rotation of the earth. That's shit. So I mean they've done studies. They know these things happen.

So the way the brain is stimulated has a very profound effect I think on our overall health mental and physical Yeah, well at the end of the day. I think it's just like positive attitudes stuff, right? I think stop complaining try to be positive if you're fucking live longer. Yeah, I mean they say I've heard so many people Say you pick 10 things you're thankful for just set out loud once a day. Just it gets you into that frame of mind if approaching is a philosophy of approaching the life through a lens of gratitude of appreciating what you have as opposed to complaining about what you don't. I mean I can't imagine that isn't a happier way to live life, personally.

Have you ever tried that shit though? It's really annoying. Absolutely. But like the third day, you can't even think of another grateful thing. You're like, I'm done. This is ridiculous. You can do the same 10. Look, it's not dude from SNL.

It's not, you know, I'm happy. I'm healthy. And people like me or whatever the fucking thing was. It's not you know, I'm you know, I'm happy. I'm healthy and people like me or whatever the fucking thing was It's not that. It's literally just kind of focusing on what makes you happy and what you're happy to have you can focus on the same shit every day Like I do that all the time. I love my car. I see my car. I'm like, oh fucking love my car I'm my apartment. I'm like a You know girlfriend and I are redecorating right now. I love my fucking apartment. I love my home I love my neighborhood when it's not on fire. You know, my brothers around the corner You're one of my best friends. We do this podcast and thankful for that shit

It's not like me sitting in the mirror going you're okay. Everything is great It's me going like I love all this shit, man, and it's focusing on that that makes me fucking happy, you know It's not a you know, know, I think I do that, but it may be a slowly different way. Right. Like, if I think of the things that I care about and like doing, Sure. I have all good thoughts about it. Like, I don't think of this podcast and think,

Oh, what a drag, I gotta do one of these later. I think this is fucking fun. I love the fact that I schedule time with someone I like to talk to and then I chat and for whatever reason a bunch of people listen to it and I love that. Yeah. And you know, it makes me want to do a good job. I'm like, oh, this is more than just a conversation that I love, but I don't feel pressure. I don't feel like, oh, I can't fuck this up. I'm like, look, I'm just gonna, if I ever feel pressured, I would just be like, I gotta stop doing this guy. Sorry, because you're not gonna enjoy me feeling pressured trying to make this better.

I'm just trying to relax and have fun. And I get to do it. Like who, I don't know, I don't, who do you talk to more on the phone than me? It's like a, even if it does happen, it's like we get a solid, we get like a just not even if it does happen. It's like we get a solid, we get like a solid hour conversation a few times a week where we just get into all different kinds

of shit and it's not about complaining. We're not moaning about shit. We're just trying to like find interesting facts or thoughts or funny things out of something that we've been listening to. Absolutely. It's a good way to spend your time. Things we appreciate.

Well, I think we're both pretty happy. This is the next thing that they... Yeah, for sure. I'm not a unhappy person. It would be a terrible podcast if I was an unhappy person. We'd fuck with one and listen to that. Exactly. I mean, it's bad enough and I'm in a good mood most of the time. Yep. Absolutely.

Absolutely. This is what you make. They talk a little bit about about their jobs, right? And I think this goes hand in hand. This is along with that whole placebo thing being positive, doing things that you like, being grateful, and they are very grateful, obviously. Joe talks about the things that he does and why he's been so successful and it's because he loves doing them. They don't feel like a job, he loves it, he has passion for it, they've got massive, you know, all three of them are beyond massive. And, you know, and they are separate, but in the same way connected, I'm sure Joe's comedy numbers in general have got a lot bigger because of the podcast.

I think UFC is separate. I think if anything, the UFC early on it helped his podcast because they're like, oh, he also does this. So they all kind of played into each other. So there is a connection, but they're also pretty different as well. And then Chris talks about the same thing. And he's like,

I love what I do. I mean, he just writes books. He has a ton of freedom. Doesn't have to have a nine to five. Basically lives in a van. And he said he did have an apartment in L.A. But he just travels around. I don't know if I could tolerate that shit honestly. I'd rather... I don't know. Well, I think I'd like to have a home base. Yeah. But I don't know. I was trying to think then. I was like almost torn. I was like, I don't know how nice is this man. How big is it? It doesn't help the UNI, both like 6 for 3, so maybe the idea of living in a van is a fucking bit of a nightmare. Yeah, no, that sounds terrible to me. That sounds like flying coach for life.

Yeah, kind of, yeah. But I mean, he's saying he gets about 50,000 downloads of podcast. Yeah, he gets the meters fans, he gets goals, right? He gets the meters fans in different locations, creates a dialogue with them. I mean, I was really inspired by it. I mean, I don't know where I see this thing going, but I mean, people listening, if we ever get numbers like that,

I mean, I would love to travel to a different town. And just say, hey, we're gonna be at this bar, and just chat, hang out. I know, I'd love to do a live version. I'd love to. I think it'd be a blast. I think there'll be a blast. Well, a big part of what he says,

he likes about it, is not really even him meeting the fans. It's them meeting each other. He's like, they have so much in common. And they get to meet up and chat about these things. And it's really very interesting. and I like that a lot. One of the cool parts and I think my favorite part of this podcast was when he was talking about first meeting Joe. So he knew Duncan Trussle was and that's one of Joe's friends. And he came on his podcast, he didn't know what a podcast was, He was living in Spain. He comes to the US and Duncan says,

Hey, go on my friend Joe's podcast. So he goes on Joe's didn't know Joe was never heard of him before and was barely used to a podcast. It was like, Oh, you're your Duncan's friend. He didn't realize that Joe's podcast was like the bigger one But it didn't matter. Right. And they smoke a little bit of weed, so he's probably too high. And he starts telling the story about one of his friends, and it's one of these stories that he probably shouldn't be talking about. And he turns the Joe, and he's like, oh, shit, can we start over? Can we just cut this? And Joe just looks at him and goes, will I, bitch?

Oh! and goes, will I, bitch? Oh, I just, he just says so much about like, like who Joe is and like just throwing people under the bus and saying, dude, this is it. Let's fucking go. And I think that's why people just find, you know, this Joe and this whole medium so attractive. I mean, they've been really good friends ever since. It didn't scare them away.

It didn't make him say, oh, that was so unprofessional and I was so embarrassed. I think it was freeing. I think it was really freeing. And he just went, fuck it. That was great. I love that. Yeah, fantastic.

Yeah, very, very funny. He's an incredibly chilled individual. I really like the way this guy told I should listen to his podcast more fuck me There's just not enough time. There's not enough time podcasts that are out there. There isn't We got to kind of split off into groups, I think agree well the hell that's why we do this damn podcasts for those that don't have 12 hours a week to listen to Joe Rogan's podcast. They can at least get caught up. Yeah, listen to two dudes. Oh And we're definitely so at the end of his podcast he talked about how a December 3rd He's doing an award show for but it's like a mock award show where comedians go up and accept awards for

blood companies that have destroyed the environment. Oh that's amazing. And Lashy and Moshe Keshe was there and his her wife his wife and and it's in Inglewood so he's going to be there to create. I think we should go to that. That sounds funny as fuck. I would love to see how they put it together and it's just a big spoof, you know, I love and Tickets to that they probably go to charity pro ghost in the environment. I think that that's great I think so and then we can do yeah We do a little review on that one too. Yeah, we'll do it. It's not up too far I

Think that'd be excellent. Yeah, I'm a big fan of this guy. I gave this one 7.5 out of 10 I don't think I rated the last podcast doesn't matter this one 7.5 it was a lot of fun and Yeah, fuck yeah, I'm totally looking forward to meeting this dude next month. They probably think Yeah, probably have some funny things to say about this podcast, but it's cool to get it out there I have fun doing talk about it Next up 1370 Brian Grazer What a cool guess. Huge producer.

Produced and I think he wrote the Nutty Professor actually, which I fucking love that movie. Well, he's produced every, he's owns a Imagine Entertainment with Ron Howard. He's produced, I mean, he's produced almost every Ron Howard film except for like two or three. They've been in, they've been in business for like 30 years. So Paul 13, Cinderella man, all the greats, all the Da Vinci codes. I'm pretty sure he's produced all of those. His big, imagine entertainment is huge. It's one of the biggest production companies in Hollywood.

I love that. Well, what I found so fascinating about this guy is he starts off immediately. You expect him to be, I'm like, okay, I don't know who this guy is that much. I knew you would know him, but I just didn't know him. Okay, I don't pay attention. Unless it's like, I don't even know any producer, Jerry Brakheimer. You know, I guess I know Harvey Weinstein from his fucked up story, but I didn't know him before that. And then there's like, I don't know. I really don't know any others, I don't think. Steven Spielberg probably produced some shit.

Yeah, it's so. But I'm clue. Well, I knew he's a director, but I'm clueless of this stuff. So I was like, all right, what do these guys do? What are they into? Are they just money bags? Or he seems like the most fascinating Collector of information and he's basically

Spend the last 20 years just using his Celebrity and his contacts to meet incredible people and sit down and talk to them at length Yeah, and Joe pointed out he's, you basically had a podcast with no audience. And it was still so valuable to him. Sure. And it's fucking genius. God damn it, it's too bad he didn't record all this.

I know it is, man. Ah. He sat down with Margaret Thatcher, I think, in the 80s. Like, what? Just a talk to her. Oh, I know. Yeah, just to be like, what do you know? What's going on?

How did you do this? What's your insight? Now he started to record them. I think over the last 10 years or so, he has. But yeah, you name it. I think probably his list of A-lifts, A-lis celebrities completely trumps Joe's. Oh. And I'm sure Joe will be texting him over the next

coming months to kind of pull some guests his way. Probably. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. I can't imagine maybe only Steven Spielberg would know more A-listers, but to be perfectly honest at that point, it's kind of like it's kind of a moot point to debate who would know more, but he would definitely, that dude is in a business sense as powerful as Jeff Bezos or, you know, he would definitely know more A-listers than say Barack Obama or something like that.

The dude is a mega producer. He's a mega producer. He might be the biggest one in Hollywood, period. He is so humble too. Just like you would never have, you know, Joe was like, I love you. That movie was so good. He's like, thanks man, thanks. I just, you know, I really didn't know what direction to take for this one and that one.

And I'm like, wow. Yeah. Like how lucky are people to get to work? You just, I always kind of feel like when you get to a certain level of power, you're just this asshole boss. And maybe that's just my experience, but it's really inspiring to know that there are incredibly powerful people out there doing huge things and they're just wonderful. There are, you know, there's sweethearts.

They're not all monsters. And they get the job done. And they get the job done. That's beautiful to hear. It's very inspiring for sure. 100%. Yeah, I met him once. I met him once years ago, probably a decade ago. It's beautiful to hear. It's very inspiring for sure. 100%. Yeah, I met him once. I met him once years ago, probably a decade ago.

And he was very sweet to me, because I was just a fledgling writer. And he knew it. No shit. And he was one of those few. I mean, it was just a brief interaction, one minute, two minutes, something like that. He was all about me, which I thought was really cool,

because I was like, I'm Mr. Grazer, it's such a fan. He was like, thanks, what's your name? And because it was like I'm Mr. Grazer such a fan He's like thanks. What's your name? He goes, no, what do you do? And you know, it's like you're a writer He was wonderful. What kind of writing do you do that? He goes, oh that sounds so wonderful He goes I'm so excited for you. You know, I hope one day we get to work together something like that But it was very much like I don't care about me like it was just a wonderful interaction I'm not saying that might be how he is with everybody, but it was cool that I was a nobody still am. But he took even a minute out to ask about me, which I think is, I think the trait of a really good human that take the focus off themselves and

embrace other people. He did talk a lot about learning like the art of eye contact. Like he very much keeps eye contact with people that he talks to. And he said it was a way to like feel there like get in their heart or something. Yeah. And he did this very young because he had he was super dyslexic as a kid. So he couldn't read well. He couldn't, you know, even write that. So his communication was all just through people. He needed to get the knowledge directly from them. I'm not sure where this idea, these like not necessarily interviews, but conversations he had with people where it's come from. That practice probably does lead you to a point of creating that feeling like you had.

That's really fucking cool. You got to meet that guy. That's really cool. Yeah, he sounded like a super fascinating guy. And that is something that I think about, right? With podcasting especially, the more we do, you know, I really do think it makes you a better conversationist.

Yeah, I do too. Has to. I do too. Well, to. I do too. Well, it helps. I have to go back and listen. It helps that we have interesting conversations in my opinion, at least. I think we do.

Sometimes I could, if I talk to people, especially at our places of work. Sometimes I just want to shoot myself on the head. But yeah, you and I have fun conversations, I think. But then it also makes me think like people like him, you're saying made you feel like really in the moment, like he didn't just glaze over you, it couldn't be bothered. And I think that there's an art there too. There is.

Because obviously some people, and they talk about it, because I guess he was talking to some, some like rapper that at first the conversation some people and they talk about it because I guess he was talking to some, some, like, rapper that at first the conversation was a real struggle and they both agreed, like, some conversations harder than others, but it doesn't make them less good. It just makes it so that you've got to figure out what they are interested in. Right. Where's their interest so you can get them excited and then you can get the ball rolling.

And I think that is really what we're saying. Like, yeah, of course, when we're at work, some people are drinking, we're working on the door, we don't want to fucking talk to drinking people. Exactly. There's a two different thing. But sometimes someone's just boring and it's like, well, you know what, maybe we need to find a way to get something interesting out of them. You know, maybe there's an art there.

And it's definitely a skill set I don't have. Because I often I'm like, all right, be entertaining because I'm getting bored. But maybe I should try and figure out what people are into. Well, like what really makes them tick? And I'm like, oh, you're not. Is annoying as I thought you'd be.

No, they are. I don't know. Yeah, they might be. They might be. But it gives you some hope, right? It gives you some. No, they are. I don't know. Yeah, they might be. They might be. But it gives you some hope, right? It gives you some. No, it does. I would do that at the store, after comedy store, if anybody would come up, there was in the

audience and like, say, you know, good-sat, or that joke was great, or that impression was great. I would always say, thanks so much. What's your name? That would always, just because I remember, I remember meeting celebrities that, I don't know, met them that I've really never had a bad celebrity interaction But some are more friendly than others, but the ones that always seem to Be the most meaningful would be like, what's your name and ask questions about that and not that I'm a celebrity

But I definitely wanted to make it a positive experience not just like oh, thanks so much It was like oh, thanks. What's your name? Where are you from? How'd you end up the show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, it makes it a more meaningful interaction. I think for both of us personally. Sure. Well, I mean, anytime you do a set and somebody wants to say you did good, honestly, I don't care how weird they are.

I am more than happy to talk to them because, well, one shit, that somebody once said something nice about a set that I've had. That's great. That feels great. But also, it's like, well, one shit, that somebody once said something nice about a set that I've had. That's great. That feels great. But also, it's like, well, yeah, this is the beginning of practicing not to be an asshole. Yep, that's what they've been up to. Because they've spent the time to come up, and if they're really socially awkward,

it might have been a difficult thing for them to come do. 100% And then the last thing you want to do is make them feel bad about it. 100%. You know? Yeah, you got to get better at that. And hopefully more people will come over. The two things I want to talk about before we end this one is I loved his story when he

did too many edibles and he freaked out. He called his doctor and his doctor came like all the way from Malibu to his house and slept at the end of the bed until he calmed down. That's a fucking good doctor. That's a good doctor who's well paid guaranteed. Yeah, well paid. He's getting some referrals. Fucking doing some household.

I'm sure not everyone gets that treatment, but that's pretty hilarious. I mean, if anyone's ever done too many edibles, you know exactly what position and state he was like, don't do too have. Don't do too many. Don't do too many. And the next thing they talk a little bit about, they talk about fat shaming. What's your stand on fat shaming on fashion? No, fat shaming, fat shaming. Uh, no, I don't like, I don't like picking on people.

I'm against it across. Well, you know that this, this is. This is a reference to the Bill Meyer and What's his name that late night host Corbin? They got into it. Yeah, Bill Maher and Corbin Yeah, I didn't I I watched Bill Maher's whole thing on that the whole fat shaming and I First of all, he played it for jokes mostly, but I I'm 100% Against that I don't like it. First of all, it's not gonna make them, it's not gonna make them get better.

And first of all, it's not your fucking business, what their size is anyway. It's not gonna make them get better. You think that is your goal? It's not gonna make them, it's just gonna make them feel worse about themselves already. You know, at the end of the day, you've got to, people have to make the change within themselves if that's something they want to do,

whether it get healthier, fit, lose weight, anything. I think it's just another fucking form of bullying and I'm so over bullies in this fucking world. So I'm decidedly against it. Yeah, me too. But I, I don't like, I don't think you should just make fun of a fat person. That's right. But you def, excuse me, you definitely shouldn't say it's okay. I mean, if I'm change smoke and cigarettes and drinking a bunch of booze, it would be aesonine. If people around me were like, that's perfectly fine. It's your choice. No, no, no, no. People without braiding me too much should totally be on my case and be like, dude, that's not

good for you and that's eventually going to carry you. Sure. Within reason. Well that would be that's the difference between you and I doing it. Me going to you as one of your good friends, man to man saying, hey man, I don't think this is I I'm worried about you. This isn't a healthy way to live. I'd like you to be here longer. I would like you to stop versus a random fucking stranger doing it, or goddamn publication doing it in a magazine or anything like that. That's completely different. Totally. Yeah, yeah. That is true. But it's getting a little, It's getting a little sensitive on the end of like being like look just let them be who they are and pull up I'm like look we go we can't just say that that's like an okay way to be Like I don't know it's that's a tough one because it's like how do you even go about it?

How do you even start? Well, it's just getting a fat or a fatter that that we know people are getting bigger It never used to be like this people and you argue back to England now and they are They're catching up with America. It's happening. Well, you don't see it in France. I'm in Paris right now There's not a lot of fat people here that I see but there are some big people and it's like It's a problem people should fucking you know, you can't baby everyone like Neen and make it clear look you're gonna fucking get real sick if you stay like this for a long time Well, I think that's the way of going about it If you I mean present information knowledge is power some people don't give a shit

And they're not gonna get better no matter what you do. That's it. Yeah, they just don't I think Positive information saying look health benefits of this um I I think positive information saying look the health benefits of this. I think the solution to any of these problems is to educate, educate, educate. And you know, and it goes down to them in the doctor too, you know, you go in to your doctor. The doctor's like, you need to lose a lot of weight. You're going to die. You're going to have horrible health problems.

But again, I just bullying, I don't think solves anything. Education does. Education not through the lens of shame, but through the lens of helping. You also can't completely control how people are gonna react to things, but we also have this fucking thing in the United States and it might be you around the world too. I mean, women feeling shamed, I mean you and I live in LA, so we know,

women feeling shamed because they're a size six or a size eight or a size 10. Ridiculousness that like, they shouldn't feel, the Jamila Jamile talks a lot about this. She's on the good place. She talks about, you know, positive body types for women and understand that you can have that extra scoop of ice cream and you shouldn't be forced to feel guilty because all you see is size zero or size two models on Instagram.

And I think there's been a lot of that and fat shaming women that are not in any way fat and I think that's bullshit too. Well, yeah, that's where it gets ridiculous. 100%. I'm talking about a health. No, I get it, I get it, I get it. But you see what I'm saying too. You do see one word. It's a skewed setup.

Yeah. Well that's kind of how they ended it and I wanted to throw that out too. I love that conversation. I think that Brian is like a fantastic human being all around. I'm a big fan. It seems like it makes me want to go watch movies that he makes because I know who's behind it.

This was an eight out of 10 for me because I think it will lead to bigger guests on Rogan, that'd be awesome. Just because of like, yeah, just because of who he knows. And I'd like to hear him back on. I think he's an awesome person. I wanted to wrap up sober October because this is actually our last one before it ends. I actually stopped doing it anyway

right before I came to Paris, which was the 22nd. Right. The other two people I was doing with really struggled with it and kind of dropped off. I didn't realize how hard people would find it. Maybe I just wasn't thinking about it, but here's what I'm going to throw out there. I know it's healthier and it is good to do. I did it for two and a half months at the beginning of the year as well after a long trip to

Europe again where you end up drinking way too much wine. But this time around, it just didn't, I didn't, I don't know, I didn't, I didn't feel anything from it. Interesting. And that sounds weird to say, because Joe's given a lot of positive feedback about how he feels about it. And maybe that's just a more responsible message

because you want to encourage people to do it. But I don't know, since I've been able to have a couple of glasses of wine every evening, which I'm about to do after I finish this podcast, it's just a bit better. And you know, I'm not smoking weed while I'm in Paris, so I guess I'm still somewhat sober in that sense. That one I missed a great deal. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's just one of those things It's like how disciplined are you anyway? If you're kind of there like I don't think Joe struggles to do showbrook to

I don't think the book christia does because you're in small. I don't think I did But it's a good test. Well the two good test and the two you referred to that really struggled with it The two good test and the two you referred to that really struggled with it That that's the least surprising thing I've ever heard of course they would struggle with I think they struggled with Silver October day one Let's be real. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they were sweating the first way. Yeah, anyway Thank you guys as always for downloading listening putting up with us coming in from Paris and LA. It seems to be editing together,

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