Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Joe Rogan Experience Review 186 Edward Norton & Kyle Kulinski

Episode Date: November 13, 2019

This week we review podcast 1372 Kyle Kulinski and 1375 Edward Norton.   Kyle is a political commentator and founder of Justice Democrats. Joe is a big fan of what he has to say in the political spectrum and we found him pretty enlightening and reasonable. Find his channel “Secular Talk” on Youtube for more from him. https://www.youtube.com/user/SecularTalk   Edward Norton is a true badass and legend of the big screen. His two hour talk with Joe was really awesome and gives you a good insight into how thoughtful and interesting this man is. His new movie “Motherless Brooklyn” has just been released and here's the link to the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fru8IkuDp_k   Enjoy the review folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email us here with any suggestions and questions for future shows..

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Hey do Mark. Good welcome back brother. Thank you. Thank you. Sleeping great as I was saying before the pod very very jet light. Yeah this has been rough. Well you'll it's like time, man. It's messed up. It is. It's like you're traveling back in time to... Yeah. It's time to wear the world's on fire pass. You missed almost all the fires. I know, yeah, no fires since I go back here in LA.

Man, thank God. For real. Poor people. Did anyone die? I wasn't falling into it. I knew some houses burnt down think anyone died. It's not that I saw Thank God Anyway today we have Kyle Kalinsky say sell it Kalinsky yeah podcast 1373 Kyle is a political commentary dude on YouTube I didn't know a lot about him before he came either liberal guy Kyle is a political commentary dude on YouTube.

I didn't know a lot about him before he came on. Liberal guy, I like what he had to say. He makes a lot of sense. He really did. And you know, I always wonder too, because often times when you're categorized as either a Republican commentary dude or a liberal one, it seems like just after a while they take themselves to the fringes of their own belief system, like you almost become extreme of whatever part you're in just because of the people listening.

They almost require you to be that way. Yeah. And it doesn't seem like he he didn't seem wacky to me. No, you seem pretty he's not like the opposite of folks news. Yeah, he seemed pretty level headed for the most part. Well, I think he's not also, you know, he's more of an internet guy, not that the internet's usually where you go for the crazy extremes on both sides, but he's not beholden to anyone for or anything. So I think that helps. He doesn't have to. Do you think it makes a difference, like you said, not being on a national syndicated show where you've got a lot of like, you know, who watches the news, old people,

right? And the old people are writing in and they're complaining and right. But when you're on YouTube though, you've got a younger demographic. Maybe they, maybe they're more into just listening. I'm also, you know, rather than forcing you to be more extreme. Well, I'm also curious to, I mean, it might also be an example of those organizations, those news organizations tend to go for the more extreme because that will generate the most buzz. So maybe he just doesn't fall into that category. Yeah, like click, click bait,

right? Yeah, for soundbugs. Exactly. Exactly. Incendiary shit. Things that get, you know, things that all things that all in rage one side or things that will in rage the other. Well, it just gets nowhere because then you're like, okay, right. One guy screaming and peach him. The other one's like, he did nothing. Right. Like, well, it's obviously something in between. Well, I mean, yeah, it was like one of you, you're from now one of you's gonna look pretty stupid to quote Lee McGarry from the west wing but um it's true it's true but it's true that's why you know it's like tangent that's why I like Chris Cuomo on um CNN because that dude is I mean he's his father was governor of New York his brother is governor of new or both democrats so you know you know where his

his uh... allegiances lie in terms of politically but the news straight is all grizzlies dick and you know he's always about challenging both sides challenging the argument on both sides which i really appreciate he's like bring your best and let's see you know where we can go i always i've always appreciated that it's not It's not a partisan effort. He's not he's not news comfort food You don't go to listen to you don't go to hear your side validated. He challenges it and I appreciate that I

Think I'd really like to have you know, maybe like three guys all girls whatever that one is to have, you know, maybe like three guys, all girls, whatever, one is the Republican, right? One's the liberal, but again, they're just like you're saying, they're balanced in the sense of like they're listening to both sides. Like, and how you can test that is you can put them both in a room, have them talk to each other, like on Joe's kind of set up. And there's a dialogue, there's a discussion, you know, people don't hate each other. It's only when people start getting mad. I'm like, all right, there's something going on here. More than what you're talking about. Well, at that time, it becomes, it's teams. It's team sports. It might as well be, you know, red socks and Yankees fans arguing with each other.

Yeah, you're right. Well, I say that, but Boston Yankees fans might disagree. No doubt, no doubt. I was surprised when they started, they kind of opened up on the whistleblower front. I mean, I know a lot of that's in the news anyway. But some things that they, that you don't hear about, and I definitely had, not that I follow a lot of these sorts of events really closely anyway but they were saying the Chelsea Manning is in is been put in jail again for something else like I guess she has some some dirt on Julian Assange or all they think that she

does and they're like charging her like a thousand dollars a day be in there. And you know they're just this is a person that like didn't didn't she try to commit suicide at one time? Because of what she had to go through. Yeah, because she was and now I'm a pardoned her at the end. I believe or at least Communard her sentence or something like that right? Yeah, but they they got her in on something else now. God they can just fuck with you for heaven. They really can. Well, and that, I mean, that, and it's Nodin who, you know, Joe had on two weeks ago. It's, guess the question becomes what, if they like what you're whistle blowing about,

it's one thing and if they don't, it's another, right? Yeah. Well, they're never gonna like it if you talk about America doing fucking shit. No, they're not. I'm sure you could out. You know, but if you out other countries, you'll just call it a repulter. I'm pretty sure 100%. Well, I mean, there's nothing I mean Supreme Court tell it up many times that a reporter is passed on illegally obtained material. They are not live. They can still publish it and they're not liable for that illegality they because they didn't commit the crime and because freedom of the press so that's

you know huge loophole so that's why the all the reports that were just known leaked to they're off scot free but Ed Snowden has to live in the in Russia oh I get it. OK. So let's say, for example, if you did like the Watergate thing today, but those guys were reporters. But if you want to report it, let's say it was me and you, going into these offices and looking at stuff, would them we be like whistleblower traders? Or we went in and stole the shit? Or is that a bit different?

We went into the Watergate hotel and stole the stuff from the Democratic offices, that thing. Yeah Nixon yeah yeah we yeah the people if we had figured it out people committing the crime yeah oh no if we figured it out like as reporters we'd be we'd be fun no just as people oh yeah no so let's say we're not we're stolen that stuff yeah we would be we'd be we'd be guilty of theft. Yeah, I mean that was the big thing that the cover of Nixon was way worse than the actual crime. That was the whole but to find out he was bought kind of behind the whole thing. That was what you know, that's what really did him in. So I think the trick is for any wannabe whistleblowers out there. Get just hint to your repulsive friends

and stay the fuck away from him. Well, and just from a legal ease kind of standard operating procedure standpoint, Ed Snowden didn't go through, quote unquote, proper channels when he was doing the whistleblower. He leaked to the press. This whistleblower in the Ukraine scandal right now, he went through the proper channels. He or she went through the proper channels. I think that's your legal ease difference right now.

I'm not saying it's no deserves to be exiled in Russia because I actually think what he did was pretty noble. I don't know the new Chelsea Manning stuff so I can't really comment intelligently on it But this whistleblower currently went through the whole like The step by step you're supposed to do when you're actually filling out whistleblower complaints So that's your big difference They're filling in it. There's like a form. There's a pamphlet that you get and it's like follow these steps. Oh Be excited to rush it. Oh I'm sorry sir. You didn't check this box correctly

We have a one-way ticket to Russia for you or prison. Ah damn it. I should have worn my waiting step full Oh dear yeah, well there you go. There you go. Google it first. Yeah, Google how to do it And you two could be a whistleblower I can't whistle so maybe yeah Maybe maybe Snowden knew that even going down the proper steps. He was good enough. What would happen? They were gonna get enough and what happened Who they would have closed him down 100% to whom go to whom? I mean he was like there was there was no one to go to He I don't only run recourse. Nothing would have happened otherwise. Nothing would have happened.

Yeah. Well, of course, this led into the new whistleblower stuff and then they were talking about the impeachment things. One thing I found pretty interesting is how they talked about how Trump never goes on the defensive. Like he, and it's not even to say that he doesn't apologize as a strategy, but let's be fair, like most politicians don't, anyway, like they've got to clever way of just like skirting it. Nobody wants, because it's, it's, it's weird psychology. It's because of who they are.

It's almost like to ever apologize shows some sort of weakness that I guess they think, you know, globally we can't recover from. Like if your leader looks weak, that's it. So all they do is just either ignore it and talk about something else, say that they don't really understand it, which is a really great denial, deny, deny, or yeah, or immediately go on the defensive with Trump loves to do.

He's like, well, I did that, well, he did that. Yeah. It's kind of like a five-year-old. But it is very effective when you're listening. You're like, oh, it tricks your brain almost immediately. And then you got to take a second and go, what the fuck did he do? Yeah.

It's a little gaslighting, but it works. There was actually a study done about politicians that used to be that the recommended solution, if a politician was involved in any type of scandal, smaller or large, would be to apologize. You Bill Clinton did it during the monocleowinsky stuff when he got caught.

He'd hold things from the map room. He's studying what I did was wrong and I apologize, blah, blah, blah, blah. But they found recently it doesn't actually pay dividends for a politician to apologize at all. In fact, it ignites the other side up more and it takes any ability for your side to defend you. Like, is nobody moves on anymore?

Because we're in a different stratosphere now with social media and 24 hour news cycle. So yeah, that's one of the things that said, don't just fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, don't apologize. But yeah, you're right. It's so strange though, because on a personal level, like if it's me and you,

or even someone we're having a disagreement with, if you it, it's almost like the tension builds in person so much that when you, it's almost like the aggressive side and the defensive side are both exhausted from the interaction, that when somebody just says, look, I fucked up, I'm sorry. Even if the other side isn't immediately like, oh, I forgive you. It's like the tension drops. People are happy. They can move on. Exactly. But on a grand scale, I mean, what you're saying suggests that's impossible.

Well, I mean, it just doesn't seem to work anymore. I've always found that to be an interesting thing anyway. This whole idea that you, to make an apology to this aggrieved group that doesn't like Bill Clinton slept with an intern, you know, that sucks for his wife and it's it's conduct you you hope that the person presiding over your country wouldn't engage in but let's be real their politicians, their kind of scumbags. But yeah, I completely lost my point, I have no idea what I was saying. Well, with that one honestly, I mean, she was a kid. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's like the same age as his kid. That's the really fucked up part about it. No, but it's even worse. And then, and then made her feel like shit I know like lied about it made her like she's fucking like what how was she like 19? Yeah, she was in her 20 really young her 20. She was a little older than Chelsea But not much older no the point I was getting at it was like but but who was really hurt by this people were like Bothered but who's like really hurt so this interesting idea that you have to apologize to people

for something you did even though they're not really hurt by it. That's a very kind of interesting abstract concept to me. That's very... Well, it's like how celebrities have to... Celebrities have to... Yeah, on line after they've said something... What big stupor stuff. Well, you know, but what you're doing

is you're apologizing to your celebrity. You've become this thing to people that like you. Right. And when you're a president to the nation and that you represent them, because like, you know, we'll say, oh, before Louis scandal, oh, Louis one of the best. Louis K. Brilliant. Genius.

Comedy God. If we saw him, we'd be weird around him because of how freaking you know much of a fan We are and then that happens and it's like dude I've been saying how great you are for like ten years. Right made us look for this and now in I almost like it Yep, you it's that sort of thing. I think is what they're what they're needing to apologize totally of course Absolutely. It's a psychological component. But it's, yeah, I mean, anybody comes out and says, you know, the wrong word or some idiot celebrity dresses up in blackface or some cultural appropriation costume, you know,

so you have to make the apology. Or it hurts your brand if you don't. It hurts your brand if you don't hurt your brand if you don't well I guess making the mate doing the thing in the first place is bad But like you said once you admit to it now it's one of those you know Bill O'Reilly moments where he's like I could list four times that he's been proven to have fucked up right and then it's boom boom boom And the show's done in ten minutes and it's like well if you had a real conversation you'd find out that it's the same egregious act regardless as if they apologize right when they don't like Trump doesn't you really can't stand there any like you could list a bunch of things but it could easily be argued

that they're like well he didn't take he didn't say did anything wrong and it wasn't really proven that he did. So it doesn't, it just becomes more of a discussion. It's harder for them to use it against that politician. Yep. Well, I guess they're going to keep doing it that way. That's a shame. It certainly seems, I mean, I think they're going to be some things that are just beyond, um, ignoring, uh, but, you know, but then again, Trump has, Trump suddenly apologized once in his political career for anything

It was the access Hollywood tape. That's it and that was because oh grabbing a taxi and that's because it's everybody was like You don't do this. You're done like it's so clear Like you have to and you know it is covered that that seems to be that seems to be the Achilles heel though It's always like some sexual misconduct But when you think of actually being able to do that job efficiently even though it is gross that you do things like that It's like the least important Reflection of how good you are at doing that job. Although it was a what certainly was eye opening is to how he views women That's for sure in his own select. Oh, yeah, true

But again, it does matter clearly your fault lift driver and a really good fault But it's true, but you keep running into people and killing them and denying it And saying it was their fault because they got in the way But somehow you don't get in trouble for it and then all of sudden, we find out that you grab someone's ass and the cafeteria. Well, it doesn't change your ability to drive that fork lift at all. It says a lot about you, and we all love to jump on that and be like,

that guy sucks, but it doesn't change that portion of the job, but it seems to take people down. Oh, it should. It really does. Well, I mean, it does. I mean, because we're kind of a British nation way, too, right? Well, Kyle talks about some of the stuff with Biden's kid, right, making 50 grand a month. And then of course it

goes back to the businesses that Trump's kids are on. And how Trump is positioning things for them to make more money. But then he references back in a day, Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm peanut farm or something. Yeah. Now, that's that's almost along the same thing because that's an egregious act, right? It's taking his presidency and his power and making it, you know, being able to abuse it the same as with Biden, you know, gave his kid that position, I'm sure. Well, they were able to do this. He definitely did. He definitely, there's no doubt that he got that work because of his association with

his father. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it was as clear cut as Biden, just calling up a guy and building, you know, give my kid this, but the, I mean, Hunter Biden clearly, I mean, the son of the vice president, it clearly made it much easier for him to land some of these high profile gigs. That's sure. And that, that shit must be happening all the time. It's almost, but I mean, to a point, it must be very difficult.

Imagine being the son or the nephew of somebody really powerful and then all of a sudden You get this internship opportunity that leads to a job at this big firm and you're like well I fucking know why I got in the door right and a lot of jobs once you have the degree for it and the basic training You can do them at almost any level unless it's very specialized like doctor or surgeon or fucking You know aeronautical engineer, but a lot of these are like manager meetings that you sign off on and do some presentation and go play golf Right, so it's almost difficult and I'm not making excuses for any of them Not like for Trump's family or Biden's one, but shit, man So I'm gonna start paying you 50 grand a month to like go to a few board meetings and you start thinking that it's like your intake,

your input is actually that valid. Yeah, you could believe it, I would. I'd be like, yeah, I'm worth it. Sure. Well, I'm just the understanding that his name alone garners influence, not just for himself, but for that company that he is a board member of. So even that, and intrinsically, is its own value that he brings simply because of who his family name is.

Yeah, I thought it was crap. I first heard about this shit when it started going down this summer. I said it on a previous podcast, I thought it was shit. And I was like, you don't, it's like, if it was one of those things, it's like, you got a job because of his name in like Oklahoma on a board. And I was like, well, that's fine. But I don't know, dealing with foreign entities, foreign countries, especially when your father was in power, you wasn't the president, but he was vice president.

He's certainly wielded a lot. Really gray, gray area, really shady. And I don't think it should be done. I don't think the children of elected officials should be using that influence on an international level. Do it domestically, all you want, because you can't influence worldwide policy. But if you're gonna do it on an international level. That's my opinion at least.

Well, you've already got a lot of opportunity to show. He ain't starving. I mean, you're gonna be connected. Yeah. So, carefully select something that's not gonna come back and kick you in the ass. Stupid, too. I mean, stupid. They probably get a lot of like, potential insider trading knowledge that they could just go from.

I mean, and that's bad too, but there's a lot of different avenues they could take. And at the end of the day, you know, that might have been entirely above board. There might not have been one thing wrong. He might not, he and his, Biden and his son may have never discussed anything Anything but what do they always talk about and like and especially in like political shows or any of that stuff or movies

It's like you wouldn't avoid the appearance of impropriety you don't even want to be able to have these questions raised much less looked into So well especially if you're planning on running for president in the future which Biden is down. It was just dumb And that's a good. Yeah, and then you have and then on the other side you have Ivanka literally getting patents in China while she's there on official United States business. That's you know, that's all that's all that's all Balls it's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah, I mean, it's like they do it in plain sight.

They do. So it's almost harder to prove. Because you were like, clearly, it must not be wrong because they're flat doing it in front of us. It's like, you almost like, it's like at the bar when people just like walk out with full beers. I'm like, they're very confident about how they were doing. Someone tell them they could do this kind of thing,

you know what I mean? Yeah, it's almost like, well, the people that get away at the bar, right, when you're working on the door and they're leaving with a beer, if they don't know, or they're not even thinking about it, they definitely have the highest chance to get in cash.

It's the one that, because they don't look nervous, they might even ask you a question and you might not even realize that they still have the highest chance that's a little bit because they don't look nervous they might even ask you a question and you might not even realize that they start drinking their hand and they walk off it's almost like how I feel a trump gets away with a trump you just like oh I didn't know yeah well no I didn't have that's how you learn yeah something I. What did you think about his, so I guess there was a picture way back of Trump eating like a taco bowl, saying like, I love Mexicans.

Oh, yeah. There's something like this. There's great picture. Everyone remembers that, love it, very funny. And, you know, obviously pretty racist, but still, just like it's just fucking, when I saw that, I was was like this can't be real he didn't post that because that's fucking hilarious, but he did well they zoomed in on that picture

and his desk drawer is full of suitafead and I can't remember if they said it was the type of suitafead that was that has the suitafedrin in like the month component component but then it goes back to the fact that like, hey, is he micro-dosing meth? And is this a thing? We know from the past, we know that JFK would take one a lot of painkillers because he was in a lot of pain, but he would also, I think, do some injected meth or something similar. He needed some energy because he was ill for a lot of his presidency and tired. Hitler was doing it. He's injecting himself a fucking liquid cocaine. I mean, it's almost

like if we break down what Kyle was talking about in the podcast, there's like three or four things the politicians need to do. Inject themselves with math, deny everything, and pretend that they don't, that they, you know, go on the defensive whenever possible, never apology. It's like none of these things. It could count the risk. No, the terrible characteristics. Yeah. Are there any good ones? Is there anything that these people have that they're like, you know, is there something on the list of 10 things that a president should know and do that you're like

Oh, that one's really nice That's a damn fine question. Well, I think what's on there now and what's changed is don't cheat on your wife and get cold Yeah, don't cheat. Oh, because although, but here's the thing that's denied denied deny that's what Trump would do. If he was caught cheating on Melania, I mean, the number of accusations that have been leveled against this dude are astounding. Like, I will, I've not slept with the note as many people as he's just been accused of sexually harassing in his entire life. It's insane. But yeah, it's just always denied, denied, denied. So he could be caught sleeping with nothing. Nothing's come up since he's been in president. Like, nothing, yeah, it's just always denied denied deny so he could be cut sleeping But nothing's come up since he's been in president like a nothing Yeah, there's been no let's say it has

Let's say it did I think it would be much harder I think that that one is like of all the points remember I'm just making a list of like ten things you should try to do It's like listen you're the president now hopefully you fucked people, and you're old, and you probably a bit... It doesn't work anymore. So just focus on the shit that you're doing. And, you know, even if you follow these other rules to make you a terrible person, don't do that one because it will destroy you. Somebody will find out, and then it's just the headache beyond, and it takes it back

to that whole, you know. The sexual misconduct thing is the way to get chopped out. I don't know if it would hurt him. I don't think so. The number of things his supporters apologies for or push under the rug or dismiss out of hand is remarkable. I don't really think it would hurt him. I think they'd come out and be like,

well, you know, I don't know, you know, I don't support that and I don't think, you know, but it doesn't take away from the job the job he's doing just like you said He still drives a great fork lift, so we're gonna let him drive the fork lift. Yeah, right care what he's putting his dick in Kyle Kyle's obviously a big Bernie fan, right? No surprise. That's his guy He loved Bernie being on the podcast. I think I think that that was huge for being on the podcast, I think that that was huge for Bernie. I'd be surprised that Bernie even realises the impact. I mean, it's the most downloaded one of the most downloaded ones that Rowan's had, I believe. It's hard to gauge because you just have to look at

the YouTube numbers, but then you can speculate. But massive. And it's a whole new audience in a lot of ways for him. You know, younger people aren't so in the following these little sound bites. And let's be fair, it's easy to make, Bernie look crazy. Oh, so easy. He's dark brown from back to the future. Wait, he's got a minute.

Yeah, he's, luckily he can spew some things in a short sound bite, but he doesn't do it very well. He does it okay. But once you sit down with him and he talks like this, I mean that was huge. He's got stuff to talk about. Yeah, it's true. And I like Kyle's take on the universal medicine to all the medical care right here. Because it's always the question, like I'm from England, we have it there. Canada has it. Different countries have it. And they're always saying, well, you can't do it in America. There's too many insurance

companies, there's too many this, there's too many that's too expensive, they just can't do it. But he's saying cut out the middleman, make the government the insurance company, so that there's no other groups that are basically just taking that, they're like moving, they're like the broken. 100% of the policy. And you've got to wonder, these guys are making good money, you know? Oh yeah, it is a job. You know, that's putting their kids through college.

And to believe that it doesn't even need to exist, raises the question like, how many fucking jobs don't even need to exist? Probably not. Well, I think that's, I mean, that's always been the biggest stumbling block for me and I think and Perfectly honest. I'm low insurance companies. I mean the number of horror stories that you hear on a daily basis if you look for them Is insane, but the same time there is I mean some health cares one sixth of our economy So that's a sixth of our common economy dedicated to that work. That you would,

if you did Medicare for All, which I am a huge fan of, but if you did it, that's a 6th of the economy that gets completely changed. That's a lot of jobs that go away. That's a lot of jobs and that is a scary prospect, prospect, which is why I don't feel like it's going to happen soon. I feel like it's going to happen soon. I feel like it's going to be a gradual, gradual build to it. I think the first option should be offering an insurance option from the government, basically, kind of thing. Right.

They kind of do anyway, don't they? They would go bomb a cat. Kind of. You still have to buy insurance on the open market. Like you still, you Obamacare gives you subsidies, Obamacare, simplifies things, but you still have to buy private insurance with a public option is what they call it. It would offer, you basically offer government insurance. So which is good because it offers an affordable alternative which in turn makes the other insurance

companies have to be competitive because if they're not, people are just going to start going into the public option. And then at a certain point, you start changing that to an opt-in for Medicare for All. So we'll keep private insurance. But if you want to do Medicare for all, you'll do this, and that'll be its own thing because of funding and stuff like that. And then I think gradually you start lowering the Medicare age, and then you start allowing these opt-ins and eventually it just becomes all encompassing.

But it has to be a process. You can't just throw a sixth of the economy off the payroll. It'll devastate. Yeah. I kind of feel like hospitals themselves, like you see it, yeah, she just have their own plan. You just buy, it's like a hundred bucks a month. And then yeah, you use that hospital and all right, that's not ideal if you're out of state or whatever, but it's way better than having zero insurance. And if you're

live close and you're mostly always there you're more you know around that area you're more likely to get injured in that area and then they just deal with it directly they're like well this usually costs X amount of thousand dollars but with this plan you get 80% off and there you go yeah that's I don't know anyway I thought Kyle had a lot of interest and I like the way that he talked he seemed to throw out things on either side. I'm a bit of a fan of that guy, I have to say. Yeah, man.

I really liked him. I'd recommend anyone on either side of the aisle to check him out, just for a bit of balanced representation. If you're I mean, if you're right-wing, you're not gonna like everything he says. That's true. But you might just get a bit of a different insight because he really goes into detail on how he explains things. And he's a young guy too. I mean, he's only 30.

So he's gonna evolve himself. And I think he's gonna be, you know, a really big name in the political commentary hemisphere. like you know, I mean he is big now But but I think really gonna be something special. I liked it. There was a lot of knowledge in this one I gave that one and it had a ten. It's It's a must listen to even if you'd not that big in a politics Which I'm not because you got to get caught up every now and again So I liked I liked changing gears slightly. We got podcasts 1375 Edward Norton

I was so pumped when I saw the Norn was gonna be on the podcast It just always makes me think when they get these kind of a list Yeah, man, holy shit. Who's next, you know how when when is the fucking rock? You know, I mean the rock was at the U of the last year of last you see gave the belt the BFM the bad mother fuck about It was it was a big deal and I was like man. I wonder if Joe could be like hey you want to call my podcast Who's next, you know, so I loved it and what a really? Kind of thought provoking dude even Joe said it goes you're really kind of Reflective and

And compassion, you know, it's all full. It was almost like not a backhanded compliment But he even said it he goes well, you know, he goes what do you mean? And Joe's like well because you know you're an actor He's just kind of making it like straight up actors who dumb They can be like who sure said can be He wasn't pulling any punches. Yeah, that's a soulful guy. He's an interesting guy. How many great movies is this guy? I can't even name it. I mean if you so many primal fear his first first His first role ever he was nominated for an uncounting award It was I read that book

Before the movie it was before he's even turned into a movie my mom recommended and I was just a kid And I remember the and that twist ending is in the book and I was like oh my god Who are they gonna get to play this kid and of course it was and it was unknown and now you look back and it's like wow It's fucking Ed Norton like launched his goddamn career. He's amazing. I like how they talked about how certain people kind of changed their own, like their career for everyone, like how Mollin Brando really changed. their career but for everyone. Like how Marlon Brando really changed that. All of a sudden it went from, you know, the Jimmy Stewart type. Your rodville kind of?

To like a tough guy that's emotional and real. And I never really thought about things like acting that way or like seeing how it changes. Like obviously movies change over time, but you really see the difference. So you may not see too much of a difference from like the 80s till now, but you go back and watch it. No, you will be from like the 50s. It's so the 80s was the 80s was the era of the super tough guy beefed up. I mean, it was Sylvester Stallone, it was Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was towards the end, it was Bruce Willis. And then, because I've read many articles about this, and then you get to the 90s, and then the action hero became more so-ful and thoughtful. It began with Keanu Reeves and Speed. That was the beginning of that era.

And then you had a different action hero in the 90s, more soft-spoken, a little more of a romantic lead, and less of a tough guy. So that pendulum kind of goes multiple ways, and they just go off with the audience likes so sci-fi movie comes up We're shit's blown up does well 800 more movies are green lit same thing with vampires and everything else So they saw speed they were like oh this is what they want now and then they go for the soulful action star I got ya. That's interesting. Yeah, that's an interesting. I mean, it's gonna go like that.

Even talked about Bob Dylan. Yeah. Like how he changed music in his way. And how even being as young as he was, you know, he just had this real connection to what he was doing. He wasn't gonna be pulled in any direction through fame. He was just like, this is my sound. This is what I was doing. He wasn't gonna be pulled in any direction through fame.

He was just like, this is my sound. This is what I'm doing now. You're like it or you want. Exactly. And that's a balsy thing to pull off in your 20s. It really is, but you know, he's also Bob Dylan. I tell like me. I as fuck.

Exactly. And then of course, the same with radio, how it's done. Yeah. I mean, if anyone changed, I mean, he's the goat. He changed that shit for sure. Period, end of sentence. Like that dude completely transcended everything. Well that people doing three hour or like long ago radio shows before have no chance. No shows maybe but there's a lot of music in between and stuff like that but he really changed but he was pushing boundaries of

What was allowable on radio like having women come sit on like Vibrators and shouldn't orgasm on the air and like sending people into tizzies and stuff like that That was really how we changed it more than anything Yeah, there's the content. I mean he got fired about how the fuck he ever got to stay on the air because his name because he drug that he drove that forklift well Because people listen to that shit That's why yeah, and in his personal life it wasn't like he had a lot of his own controversy, right? He was married for a long time. I mean, it wasn't like, was it, you know, it wasn't, I don't remember really hearing anything about all the woman knives that he is.

It was all a bit. It was all a bit. If you see the movie Private Parts, you read his autobiography. It was all, it was all a bit. It was all bullshit. He was really just a loving family man He just had to do this shit on the air because he was like this is the only way I'm gonna get noticed this is the only way I'm gonna get ratings. This is what I have to do right He's like a lunatic about cats too. You heard about that. He has fucking loads of cats. He's always a No, I love that. Yeah, that's great, right? I love that. It just seems to make sense. Like it just suggests he really hates people.

Totally, totally. Well, as everyone knows, if you have a bunch of cats, you hate human beings. Then it's just true. That's just true. Science. So Edwin has this new movie that he wrote, produced, all this, motherless food.

Yeah. So I mean, I don't know if he really wrote it, right? It was a book first, but he must have made the screenplay for it. Yeah, he adapted the, uh, he adapted the screenplay for sure. I haven't seen it. Um, I don't go to the movies a lot, and I wanted to watch it before I did this podcast, but just like anything we're traveling at enough time. Have you heard much about it? Um, I have not. I haven't heard much. It didn't do well.

It didn't. It opened really soft. I don't think they. I don't think anything did. Well, nothing did well. Nothing did. Nothing. Everything was down.

Um, Dr. Sleep was down. Midway was down to the Irish. Irishman. That began, but that's going to be mainly on Netflix anyway. anyway So they're gonna do a limited release terminator bombed bombed yeah, I don't know now quick shout out though the girl and I went and saw Jojo Rabbit this weekend It was fucking amazing everybody go see it. It's hilarious and Heartwarming and everything you want in a movie Jojo Rabbit it's about um It's about a little Nazi boy.

He's like in Hitler youth, and his mom is hiding a Jew in their upstairs, one of their upstairs bedrooms, and he discovers her. And they form like a friendship, even though he's a little Nazi. But it's his Tchaikovu TD who directed, like, what we do in the shadows, and Thor Ragnarok. He's a bit. He's one of the big up-and-coming dudes in filmmaking and Yeah, he did he did this and he also plays

Hitler in it, but it's Hitler is this child's imaginary friend. It's absolutely hysterical. Everybody should go see it It's absolutely like the first five minutes you will be crying You'll be holding your sides. You're laughing so hard. Oh That's pretty sweet. Oh, yeah, but a funny movie with Nazis. It's a Stereical Yeah, Sam Rockwell's in a Scarlett Johansson's in it as well. Rumble Wilson. Great little cast Kids are amazing and Sam's a legend. Oh, legend.

He's so good in this movie, too. But yeah, Mother's Book, I know I have not really heard that. I'm sure I doubt they expected it to really do well. I mean, it hasn't really been pushed a lot. Like, I don't see a lot of commercials for it or anything like that. I think it's one of these things that they're fully expect to get award nominations for, Golden Globes, Oscars, SAG, all that stuff. And that is what will begin the push at the box office.

So they kind of have a slow and steady wins the race approach as opposed to get everything in the first weekend. That's what I was kind of thinking to. It's got a great cast. Amazing cast. I mean, Willis is in it. There's some great people in this for sure. They only had 45 days to make the movie.

Yeah. That sounds fucking good. I know. How long do you usually get to make a movie? Like, I know you've worked on sets and things like that. Well, I mean, you're what? I thought that you had a month. Depends.

Depends. In your films shoot like 28 days, something like that. It's 28 to 30 days But big your big budget four to six months They'll do that. They'll shoot like a page a day And it'll take that whole day Especially like your Star Wars, which has so many effects and stunts and all that stuff. So you kind of need that But yeah, your indie films, you know, they're shooting eight pages a day, which if you haven't worked in film, that's a lot because every shot is a new lighting setup. So if you see them in a close-up and then you see them in a medium

shot or if you're doing the super-wide where everybody's in the shot, those are all require at least an hour's worth of setup, setting the lights, getting your camera ready, getting your actors ready, blocking it, all that stuff. It takes a while, so to do 45 pages or 45 days for that shoot, it's pretty hectic. But it's impressive because it's like a period. So you got to find all the views and angles and show the city without showing like a modern Building and you got to make sure the cars are rolled and all the signs and like that's fucking not easy I'm sure that's not

It's impressive. I'm keen to check it out. Yeah, I don't think I Run to the theater for it, but just hearing about it, like hearing how thoughtful the conversation was, Edward Norton is so chilled, and you know, they even got into this bit about Hicks and Gracie and coming in to do like the meditation, breathing scene in the Hulk movie, which, you know, not a lot of people recognize Hicks and Bud. Yeah, but as a jujitsu guy I mean he I you know I know

he's a legend and he really would be like one of the most perfect people to learn to meditate and calm your aggression I mean one of the greatest fighters of all time I mean it's he's like the real life hope in a sense it's kind of beautiful that Ed would put that together, even though he knew not a lot of people would know who that is. True. And obviously Joe loved that fact. And you could tell that Joe is a huge fan and it was really cool. I wish the conversation had gone on longer. It was a short one. Yeah. You know, I could have just really sunk into it. I was on a train going somewhere from Paris. I can't remember where but it was just it was beautiful It was like just a nice train ride looking out the window had some wine and I'm just listening to everyone

Just tell me a story and yeah, I would have liked a bit longer. I know these guys amazing I believe I was on the toilet when I listened But well we've all got to be someone. But I did have wine. Nice. Wine on the toilet. Yeah, I give this one a nine out of ten, for sure. Maybe just because I'm a bit of a big fan, but I loved it. I thought it was great. And hopefully he'll be back on pushing, excuse me, pushing other companies. And I'm really pumped to see what other A- list is movie wise get on because we do we we really don't know these actors you know the same thing you get you get a Jimmy Kimmel

interview with a barely saying anything and then just their movies yeah we don't really know who they are I like to I like to have that that extended period of time agree anyway thanks as always guys for downloading listening and ladies, the four women that probably down in the rest are just dudes. Yep, but thanks a lot. We got some big changes coming up pretty soon. So keep an eye out for that. And as always, you can email us at joe rogan experience review at gmail.com, y luego nos vemos en Instagram. El Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast. ¡Gracias! MOTRIO te ofrece un mantenimiento multimarca sin sorpresas con mecánicos expertos altamente cualificados y formados. Descubre MOTRIO, tu taller para todo lo que necesitas.

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