Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Joe Rogan Experience Review of Duncan Trussell et al.

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Guest list: Owen Smith, Kurt Metzger, Tom Green and Duncan Trussell. Stay safe..   Enjoy folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows..

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We obviously have no affiliation with Joe Rogan and his podcast other than the fact that we talk about what Joe talked about during the week I am affiliated and this week you big fan well okay is that an affiliation or George or is it just a thing that you said that's the biggest affiliation one can have We have a lot to talk about because Tom Green. He was yep excited about this fact Tom Green was a great guest to have on that. And I'm really glad that Tom came on. Yeah. Tom's great because Tom really, in a lot of ways, was one of the pioneers of this type of media.

Like, he didn't necessarily have a podcast himself, but he did like a TV show back in the day. And recently, he posted something online, and they talk about it on the podcast, just where Joe went into his studio, which was at his house in the early days, where he's running off like servers, and there's wires everywhere, and what's really cool about watching the video, and you can find it on YouTube. Joe is like, his eyes light up when he's like talking through the process, like, wow, this you can do this and you can just say whatever you want and there's no producers no director and you can just see his his wheels turning in his head like he's loving that idea and it's I think it was recorded just right before he started the podcast which which is really cool, I think. Tom Green was ahead of time. His regret was one when YouTube contacted him and said,

hey, we like what you're doing. Would you like to use our servers? And he said, no, I'm doing my own thing. And the second mistake, when he got a letter from the guys that they were running the videos to his servers. Right. And he found out how much it costs to actually run video to millions of views. Oh yeah, yeah, so they sent him a bill for like what like $40,000 or something.

He could have said, alright you guys run the servers, good of all those guys, okay you guys are now with YouTube. Just do the show, the Tom Green show on YouTube. Starting in 2006, he would have been started with the same time. You remember that guy, the three times guy who was commenting on the three funny videos on YouTube? No, I have no idea. I didn't pay a lot of attention. The problem was though, back then,

well, you don't remember, so it doesn't matter because back then we're even enough people watching YouTube to where it was worth inputting a show on there. I mean YouTube was pretty new back then. Was it even viable to make a lot of money on YouTube in like 2006? 2006 YouTube just started and you could have put only five minutes videos at a time. Ah, okay, so that wouldn't have worked for Tom Green though back then, right? Exactly. So that probably wasn't an option. Maybe this is not enough length for my show because he has a long show.

He could have put it in pieces and you know just go with the trend. Just to make a parenthetical here. I was actually the first YouTube channel in a world. On a time when you could upload only 15 minutes in length, YouTube gave me the permission to upload videos over one hour. How did you get that setup? I put up my movie trailers and then I wrote them a letter. I said, hey, look, this is my trailers independent films. And I would like to publish the full length on YouTube. And I can't upload them in pieces. I would like to upload the whole thing.

And they said, oh, great. We have a program. They sent me an email. I didn't speak with nobody. And they gave this feature to my YouTube account. That's pretty sweet. It was great for me. So it could have been possible.

It could have been possible. It kind of sounded like to me when Tom was talking. It almost sounded and chime in on this. And let me hear what you think. Now it almost sounded like he had this idea and he was going with it. But he almost like quit and change direction and i don't know

if he really use that to continue to build momentum or if he kind of missed the boat on like starting a podcast and making money that way because it's a kind of seem like tom green dropped off the map for a long time he had the momentum at the wrong port the boat was not ready yet to get a little short and he jumped both too early. Yeah. When YouTube, this thing happened that they gave me the

permission to upload a long form video on YouTube. It was 2009. Right. When Tom Green had the full blown up video studio with a TV show and ready for streaming It was 2007. Ah, so he got in too early. Yeah. Yeah, well, but at least he set the trend for a lot of people and the fact that he inspired Joe It's like really any of the guys that helped Joe even put the show together. I mean, you know of the guys that helped Joe even put the show together, I mean, you know, think of their contribution. Because without them, Joe may have never even made his show. Right. Yeah. Crazy times, man. I mean, really, it's fascinating. He's a bit of a quarantine nut. It sounds like too. He didn't really like, you know, this is the first time he's left

his house, too, he was saying. He like, wouldn't have gone for anyone else, but he went for Joe. And he kind of equated that to his health scare that he had, having that, what do you have, testicular cancer? That kind of scared the shit out of him, I think. So that's probably why he was you know so cautious about leaving his house. Yeah getting sick. I Watched couple of his old videos. He put them on YouTube because he keeps his archive. He said to Joe Oh, yeah, I keep all the videos because Joe is a dog. I don't give a fuck right I have some videos from Some public access show that he did when he started as a comedian Did you ever watch his show back in the day? It was really quite funny. Oh, it was very good from some public access show that he did when he started as a comedian.

Did you ever watch his show back in the day? It was really quite funny. It was very good. It was a super wacky, like, it was almost set up like a late night talk show. He used to have this guy that like would sit in the window and just giggle, and he always had like a cup of tea in his hand or a coffee or something.

Yeah. And it was wild. It was almost more like Eric Andre show. Not quite that insane, but it was a nut show. It was really funny. I think it was in high school, I used to watch that. That was a long time ago now. Long time ago.

Long time. When I saw it, I said, wow, this looks much like Borat. Borat had the same kind of style of going, making fun with people, mixing reality and fiction in a documentary style. Yeah, Tom Green was excellent of that early on, really, really good, kind of pioneering it really. I mean, Allie G was that Sasha Baron Callham was doing that stuff with Alley g for like through the two thousands So so it's probably around the same time, but I think Tom Green might have beat him to it honestly He was he was a wacky dude. He didn't he really didn't give a shit

He really just wanted like express his creativity However, he could and I always respected that a ton. He's a lunatic. I love it. You're a comedian, so all comedians, you guys look at each other and not necessarily copy, but you get inspired from each other. When I make a movie, I get inspired from other films I watch and I say, wow, look at this guy, oh, he's shot this. Oh, I wrote that. For sure.

Yeah. Well, he's an inspiration in that sense I mean Joe definitely made that point many a times you know He talked about his whole setup at his house and how impressive it was to see how he turned his house into a studio And it was definitely something Joe wanted to do. I mean it was really very cool and And you know in Tom's talking about like wanting to get back to stand up as well, like he's always loved stand up comedy. He wants to get back and do stand up, which is, you know, a bullsie move when you've been away from it for a long time. I don't think

I've seen a lot of Tom's pure stand up, so I don't really know like how good he is. I'm sure he's very funny, but it's very impressive. It's an impressive drive and it's inspiring to just in that sense that he wants to get back out there and do that thing again. I mean, he didn't really talk about having a podcast, if he doesn't have one, he definitely needs to. He didn't say he has a podcast.

I'm sure he does though. Just an audio. I don't think so, I don't remember. I don't think so. I don't remember It doesn't have video. I don't remember. He has different little shows He does but I don't think he has like a podcast right now But he could do anything he could do like a little silly show just on YouTube and it would get a ton of viewers One thing about Tom Green he can do interviews like Joe Rogan because he's a little bit older now He's show can be changed a little bit. He was

interviewing Joe Rogan. Wow, how do you have this energy for the show Joe? How do you talk? You get so excited like freaking he was three hours into the show. Yeah, he's a natural interviewer for sure. Well, that's why he would be so good at it. I mean, it takes a lot of practice. I'm sure to be able to, you know, want to come up with those questions and kind of be that curious naturally and make it like a fun conversation. But it's also like he took that time to learn. He just wasn't, he wasn't there just self-promoting. He was really reflecting on how Joe did his show and how it was

working and I thought that was excellent. You know, it was fascinating to watch that. Joe was telling him, basically, bro, you didn't really miss the boat. You are in the boat from the beginning. You are the innovator. You and I, he mentioned how a stone and Antonik Kovnyak. Adam Curry. Adam Curry is like the god, the OG the OG OG OG but yeah those guys they're all the original dudes really Adam Curry is the inventor of podcast basically pretty much I think that they're it's hard to say who really did it early on I know Ricky Jervase really early on had a podcast too but I'm pretty sure it was Adam Curry. Adam Curry was on

Rogan not that long ago and he was talking a lot about his setup and I don't know what he's doing now whether he kind of stuck out it, he probably still has a podcast. Yeah, I mean he really kind of paved the way. And then the was it OP from OP in Anthony also had his own home studio. Yeah. So he did something very similar as well. And that dude's very funny, wacky guy, but very, very funny dude indeed. And how it was turned. I mean, without him, nothing like none of this would be existing. Yeah, because I guess even though that was on the radio, that really was like the first kind of long form,

say whatever you want, style of talking for entertainment, right? I can't think of another style that was like that. Like how would we talk for hours? Yeah. Like every day, unbelievable. It would come on the radio and just do a talk show. And they would ask him, no, we have to interrupt. Sorry, I smoked some, we're legally in California here. You have to interrupt. Sorry I smoked some weed, legal in California here.

You have to play music. Bro I am talking. Talking for the guy, this amusing his words because he says this numerous times, he repeats it on his show. I concentrate on this radio show to sound like I'm talking to the guy who's driving the truck. It's a guy, not a woman. And goes to work or whatever, you know, in a morning at 6 a.m. and he was just conquering radio market after radio market.

Yeah. Because he didn't exist anything like that. You would turn on the radio and you would just keep listening. For sure. He would know how to move the show. He would, he would, he got so much experience. listening. For sure. He would know how to move the show. He would get so much experience. Yeah, for sure. Look, I really like to, I thought this was,

that's a great conversation for anybody that just loves the medium of this style of podcasting, you know, what it is and like how it got there. I mean, podcasting hasn't been around a long time, so eventually it's gonna have its own history. It's like who was the first person to do it? How did they do it? How did it get started? And when people put it together,

Tom Green's name's gonna be on that list. And yeah, how it in his own way. In his own way. How did this medium work? It was, it was balsy early on. When the podcast came on, and the podcast was growing slowly, it was not really noticeable. It was making fun of podcasting. Oh yeah, no doubt. Well, he didn't, he, how it didn't

like anything that there was any kind of competition. He was ruthless. Oh yeah. So even when people started copying what he did, he wasn't about them doing that. He wanted, he wanted all the viewers all the time, whereas Joe has never been like that, Joe has encouraged everyone always to do a podcast. That's why it's almost funny that we're not the only review talk show that talks about Rogan, and often people write in the comments like why do you guys even do this, is stupid. Well, that's fine, you can think that, but even Joe's like you want to do a podcast do it do it about whatever you want. I'm sure he

couldn't give he couldn't care less that he's probably happy that people do this. He just wants people to do podcasts. He loves it. Well because he crossed 15 bucks for a month to start the podcast. How worked when he went on satellite, he had offers from these two companies, Sirius and XM. At the time, XM was much bigger than Sirius. Money, Howard does for a lot of money. They laughed at him and he told them, look, there's going to be only one satellite company that's going to win from this. The one that

Picks me. Yeah, probably true the guy kept laughing The all those guys in a you know how is the CEO's in a ground table in there and then he left the serious company grew up Until they bought XM because XM was almost going bankrupt Didn't they pay him like 50 million dollars for like a contract? It was insane amount of money How are these the highest paid entertainer in America today? Wow 500 million dollars per contract for five years Jesus, he's now at the second contract. I love that so for ten years he got one billion dollars to his corporation Not to him personally because he has get the fuck out of here really a billion dollars Well for ten you sure for ten years. Yeah Still it's a hell of a lot of money. Yeah, well good for him

He nailed it. What did you think of the Owen Smith podcast now Owen Smith is a great comedian underrated? But Joe's always talking about it. He's absolutely hilarious comedian. He got stuck, I guess, being a writer for a show for a long time so people don't know him that well, but he's open for Joe a lot. He's known Joe a long time, and Joe can't say enough good things about him. A very smart guy. I liked him when he was talking about, you know, he knows what was it? Japanese, you know, and he was like talking some Japanese and explaining how the language works and I mean he's obviously a very intelligent dude. I like his documentary that he did. Did you watch the episodes with Joe looking through his comedy notes? Oh yeah, damn it. What is it just called? Fuck, what was that called?

Notebook? Yeah, it's just called notebook, right? Yeah. Yeah, I've watched the one with Joe. I think he has four episodes now and it's fascinating. I mean, you know, like if you pursue any kind of stand-up, it's knowledge that's very important, but it's just interesting to know for anybody because people don't realize what the process is, like how people even go about coming up with these jokes. And I mean, if more people knew that 99% of everything that you wrote down is complete garbage, I mean, you'd have a lot more respect for how polished the comedy is by the time it gets to

a special. By the time it gets to a special, they've thrown out 99% of their material and they really hone those jokes for like a year, maybe two years. It's an unbelievable amount of work. It's incredible, really. Don't miss notebooks with comedian Joe Rogan. Now season one, episode episode three available on YouTube Is it a it's on YouTube is it you can watch it for free? Yeah 15 minutes per episode nice

That's good. I got to check those other ones out. I really like to Owen and I really hope that he gets a special out soon I Mean for sure. And he seems very caring too, like he was talking a lot about what we're going through with the coronavirus, and he had a lot of compassion for people that are like living alone during quarantine, how difficult that is, like how people are going to struggle to pay their bills. You know, he just thinks in a very interesting way. He's always,

like, he was telling a story about how he explains things to his kid. And it's like, his kid's very young, but he's like, almost training him to thinking away to where it's like, okay, so you've got this guy, and he's going skateboarding or something, but now someone else needs to get a hold of him, so what does that person think? And he was just putting together this branching effect of thinking, which I thought was really cool. That's a fun thought experiment with a little kid to understand.

He talked about a lot of stuff. I just don't remember exactly... So they talk about Joe Biden for a long time So so obviously Owen is not a fan of Trump, right? He's a liberal guy Where Joe he expressed his opinion again that Joe Biden is basically Not able to form sentences. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he has some kind of dementia and Owen was saying well it doesn't matter about him Because he's gonna put a good cabinet together. So we're really voting for the cabinet Who cares?

And in Joe kind of mocked him a bit. He's like well, you don't vote for a cabinet But a lot of people Thinking that way a lot of people want to a lot of people are just so to a lot of people are just so anti-Trump that they are willing to do that. And I don't have a judgment either way for whoever you want. Like that's totally up to you. But you know, it's just interesting to hear that back and forth. I mean, they're obviously friends. Joe's obviously a liberal guy.

He's just Joe's making the point I think that he's like, we should have got someone better for this. Like I don't feel comfortable voting for someone that can't put thoughts together. You said Joe is making the point, I think, that he's like, we should have got someone better for this. Like, I don't feel comfortable voting for someone that can't put thoughts together. You said Joe is liberal? Yeah, Joe's a pretty liberal guy. I think he's liberal with guns and some stupidity. No, that's not liberal.

He's not liberal with guns. He's more second amendment pro, which is generally more conservative. But pretty much everything else, I think he says that he's liberal on it is what it seems like to me I mean just because he looks like a meathead doesn't mean that he's a Republican yeah like those things don't go hand in hand like he's all he's for universal health care and you know he doesn't like he's pro gay gay marriage and a lot of things. Like he's not a conservative guy. Okay, I agree.

What do you think? Do you think that he is? No, I think this thing with guns, I don't understand it, I don't get it. But that's just one thing. And that's, he likes to hunt. It's difficult to hunt without a gun. You're gonna throw rocks at deer dear you're not gonna get very much yeah but that's got nothing to do with second amendment

what hunting? hunting is fine hunting could go get a compromise to get that specific gun I think we're talking about AK-47 automatic weapons that you can buy at Walmart ammunition bombs you like you can buy anything in this country is nuts. Yeah, I don't think that he's pro AK-47 though. Right. I'm sure he has nuances to how he thinks about it gun control as well. It's not like you're not just all in or all out. There's new answers to it. Like you can you can be pro hunting and not think that someone should have a machine gun like that's different so I get I so I'm hearing you're not yeah we're not gonna get in

I'm gonna turn you show in a Gandhi bait no no it's fine doesn't matter for me I don't believe in this okay you're not a you're not a gun guy that's fine yeah don't be a gun guy I'm all for it. I mean, I'm not saying I am, but I understand why people like to hunt. I have friends that are hunters, and I appreciate where they're coming from. And I've gone hunting before, and I enjoyed it. It was an interesting pursuit. It wasn't like I thought it was. It was like there was people had a lot of respect for what they were doing. It wasn't just like hillbilly's shooting at animals, you know while drunk. I mean it was nothing like that. There was a lot of respect and it's like a very difficult pursuit and there's a lot to it. There's a lot to it. It's

interesting. Last year I wrote to some hunters and I said hey guys I would come because I see you have videos on Facebook with your new hunting I'll come with my camera and film you all do like a documentary Mm-hmm. In exchange for a pig. I'll just take the pig whatever you guys shoot it because I'm not into guns and stuff Because I'm such big fan of Joe Rogan and I was thinking man What if I contact these guys they shoot a pig for me? I take it and I freeze it like Joe does yep how to go never got an answer back oh maybe it's how you wrote the email maybe I can get you in contact with some hunters that it take you out hey George do you want to some meat you have to kill it bro all right man let's fuck it I'll take the gun I'll go and kill it

but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna take the gun home the gun stays at the cabin where we're going hunting it's all under supervision nobody enters the area where we're hunting there's no guns outside in a public area I got you like in, in your house, or in some bar, or in some guys' car. Like he has a gun. Well, why do you have a gun for? Or to protect myself against who? First of all, if someone's gonna rob the house,

like you gave the example of the Italian comedian, they broke into his house, they shot somebody. Those guys, they didn't come in to start beating them up and kill them But to steal the money the thief comes to steal the money his interest is to steal he might have a gun But his interest is just to defend himself only his way out in case you catch him or who knows depends how the dangerous is the job But not to come in there and shoot what is the child's bronze on movies. So there's no need for guns.

That's just my opinion. Okay. Well, but if you knew for sure, right, if you knew somehow that tomorrow somebody was going to break into your house and your family was there and they were going to have a gun and you don't know who they are, you don't know if they're on drugs or if they're desperate or if they're desperate or if they're gonna panic and your option was you can either have a gun or not have a gun.

These are your two options, right? What would you choose? To not have a gun. And your family's in there though. And you don't know, I'm not telling you about this guy. You've got to assume that I'm gonna top it down. All right. I'm gonna say good luck Look bro, I give you what do you need? I have now cuz I installed the cash up from Joe Rogan and I bought some bad oil stock

But I still have some money so you take this money. I give you to your own cash up give me your cell phone number and That seems like ridiculous diplomacy. That's ridiculous. No, I'm gonna kill you now I'm gonna kill you and you're wife It's gonna be like that movie Cape field with rubber the nero. This is it happens But it's very rare maybe is like 0.00000000000000000001 0.1111% maybe look maybe but I'm not I'm just making a point that like that that does I understand why people would want a gun

in that situation like I'm not I wouldn't judge anyone either way whatever choice they make but I mean it doesn't seem unreasonable to me if somebody's like fuck yeah I want a gun in that situation because you don't know who that person is You didn't ask them to like come to your house. I mean they might be crazy

Like why are people breaking in the houses with guns? They they could be drug problems people get erratic. They panic who knows? I don't know man. That's a I think you're perfectly right. You have another argument Maybe we form a militia, you and me. Yeah, shut up. I can't do it. All right, the last bit they talked about, which was interesting, was the amount of time

they've taken off standup. Now, these guys perform all the time. Joe's always at the comedy store. Owen's always performing when he can. He writes, he's at the store. They tall. And they're saying, wow, this is a long time that they've taken off. When he can, he writes, he's at the store, you know, they tall and And they're saying, wow, this is a long time that they've taken off and when Owen said, well actually the longest time I've ever taken off was eight months

Because and I thought this story was interesting. So it was when he was 19, he was real young and he just started commenting and he bombed so hard that he took eight months off Now imagine how painful something has to be to where you quit for shit. What is that? Two thirds of a year? That's a long fucking time. That really gives the idea like some idea of how fucking hard it is to stand up. Is that a big difference once you're used with a stage? You used to stage right? If I put you now on a stage with 50 people, you're gonna get butterflies in your tummy? Oh yeah you always get nervous, always. Oh for real? Yeah you're supposed to if you don't it's weird. You know I mean the worst I've honestly ever felt was I drank too much and I didn't drink too, I wasn't like drunk, but I just had a little bit too much to drink.

And it was a show where you pick the topics from a bucket, so you can't even do your own stand-up. You have to make comedy out of what you pick. And because I was a bit too loose, a bit too like, well, you know, feeling the alcohol, I just couldn't flow at all. Like it was an absolute mass. And in a way, it's almost better to be more nervous because it makes your brain run quicker. And to a point, I mean, you get too nervous, you can't think at all.

But if you can just control it and you're just like a healthy level of nerves, you know, you really got to piece together a story and it makes you vulnerable and you've got to like get it out and it's, there's something to it. I mean, the nerves are an important part of it and I'm pretty sure, you know, most of the people that I know that do it always feel, always feel nervous, you know, at least at the very beginning. So why would you feel nervous? Why don going you're okay that's what I'm asking you you already got going no no no no no no no are you got me wrong

once you get going during the set it's not like how many times you've done it I mean that obviously helps a bit if you like really trust your material but it's like it's like the 30 seconds before you go up on stage and then maybe the first minute of being up there is really strange or you're kind of adjusting to the dynamic and then you can kind of get into your last like 5, 6, 10 minutes, whatever you got time wise. So right now on the podcast you have an audience that is bigger than 50 people on the stage, much bigger. So you don't have any problem. That's true, but I can't see him and I'm not trying to make him laugh, so it's way easier. Right, so if you try to make them laugh like to crack a couple of jokes that would be difficult?

Well, no, I mean, but if I, it would be weird if I like wrote stand-up for the podcast, it doesn't really work like that. It doesn't. I mean, nah nah I mean if we say some funny shit eventually that's fine but that's not even what this is for is just talking bullshit when Tam green said hey man how do you have so much energy because I was saying Joe was doing hey keep telling the story I'm gonna go grab a beer I'll be. Joe was actually doing the standup on the show. When Tom Green was asking him, man, you have so much, because Tom Green, because I had the balls surgery,

had a problem with that, with the testicles, I have now gray hair, because he was looking at an old video when he was younger. Right. That's it with Tom Green. I was just talking about his balls. Yeah. We're gonna bring balls back.

Joey Diaz seems like we have a video on the internet with Joey Diaz. He took his balls out at the comedy store in his hand. Ha, ha, ha. Saga balls. That's great. Great move. I'm a big fan of Joey.

I love him. They banned the comedy store Twitch account. They banned him the band the account. Oh Maybe temporary. Ah, he'll be back. He'll be back. Don't worry. But that's he's a wild man. All right, so this on to my next This is my favorite podcast. I know that you really like the Next, this is my favorite podcast. I know that you really like the Coke Matsukawa, I like that one too, but Duncan Trussell, one of Joe's oldest friends, podcast 1464, ended the week that way. So glad he came on.

Always, a great guest to have. I can't say enough good things about Duncan. He's just a brilliant guy a wacky guy super nice and This show was all the same. I mean he never does a show without talking about DMT and Alien realm if you ever tried DMT George, have we talked about this? I don't think you have right except weed for me There is no other drug that I would ever try you wouldn't do it ever. I'm not interested. You drink though, right? Do you drink or no? No, I don't drink alcohol. Oh shit, I didn't know that.

Smoke weed, that's it. Oh, what a damn. Look at you, son. It's just, it's... Well, I think you're picking a good one. Marijuana's a great drug to do. If you were to just pick one, I think that's a great one. But they jump into, well, they were talking about aliens, right?

Do they exist? Could they? And maybe we can see them anyway because you don't have to travel to the aliens. You just you just take this drug and you're there. And I think that that it's such an intriguing idea. You know, I often wonder like how many people have tried DMT purely from listening to Joe's podcast It's got to be a pretty decent percentage of the people that have tried it. I would be afraid. What would you be afraid of? Going insane. The DMT if is produced by that gland in a brain that's small thing

by that gland in a brain that's small thing, whatever is in there, because the pineal gland. That one. Shock in a body shock, let's say something happens. The aliens are coming, like you said, and I get my body in shock from aliens. That pineal gland, it, my brain shuts down, it concentrates only on survival.

So I think that by Neil Glenn is what he keeps the brain still alive to still jump start the brain. In order to keep it alive it gives you a state of dreams like intense shutdown like you shut down a computer but it's not really shut down it's in suspend mode so it still has the memory but it's just it's all compressed in the and to consume as less energy as possible yeah so you can also what are you worried about happening it's not like people aren't dying from this they're not going insane this substance is so close to that stage of the end of you, the end of me. True.

You know the end of the person. But you're going to die anyway. Don't you want a taste of it? I'm not going to die to the smokes with some Indians in South America, bro. All right. All right. Hey, look, I respect it, but I'm just saying just expressing a fear for something that is going to happen anyway, and it might help you prepare for that event, give you a different perspective. and look, we've done tests. This is what actually is happening. We actually discovered how the brain works in the pineal gland. We know now what these aliens are that you're gonna see. So when you're gonna get this injection,

because Joe Rogan, I understand, you know, some people that they could doubt the DMT injection. And you take this injection, you're gonna be just fine. you're gonna see some aliens and some spaceships, the mothership, but that's gonna be because of this and they're gonna explain you medically exactly what is that happening. Then probably you're not gonna even do it, you say, fuck this, I would rather go pay $300 and get an Oculus Quest. Yeah. Well, they did the, they did the Strasmon's studies in my university, UNM, University in New Mexico.

I think back in like 2000, I think that's the first ever FDA approved US test that they've ever done where they had a bunch of participants that did intravenous DMT over a period of time and it was interesting and supposedly the reason the doctor quit doing them is because he came at it from a very medical standpoint. I mean he wasn't trying to look for like all the trippy effects. He just wanted to see what would happen and how the people felt and how they did long-term and there were too many similarities with their stories and it kind of freaked him out so he stopped doing it. It's like traveling to another place, infinite time,

feeling like you didn't exist, there was just so many similarities to the experience and I think from that, if I remember rightly, it wasn't a negative effect for very many of the people. There were plenty of people that would say they would do it again, plenty that said they wouldn't, quite a few that said it really impacted their life in a big way and some others that said it really impacted their life in a big way and and some others that said it didn't really But it doesn't seem to be any long-term negative effects from it. No casualties under the medical supervision Oh, no, nobody definitely nobody died. Nobody had any medical complications

Nobody went skit so crazy afterwards nothing like that couple of people died in South America from DMT But I don't know exactly really you got a good idea afterwards, nothing like that. A couple of people died in South America from DMT, but I don't know exactly. Really? Yeah, I don't know all the ins and outs that's maybe. I'll Google it, I'll Google it. But I loved Duncan, his energy coming in, and I always like his perspective.

He gets into some conspiracy theories about the coronavirus with a meteor coming by, and that was a bit of a wacky story and You know, I mean there's a lot of kind of bullshit talk out there with like the 5G affecting people and you know, I like his questioning like how he tries to make sense of it all Mm-hmm I'm do you have any new theories on coronavirus? What are you standing with that right now? Corona is now manageable. Trump has got sufficient ventilators.

I don't watch the press conferences anymore because he got upset with the press and he got it short. Yeah, well, let's talk about that. They talked about the press conference with Trump talking about injecting bleach or disinfectant in people and then using sunlight to He didn't say that. Yeah, he said something about sunlight can kill viruses. Maybe we can get sunlight inside the body. It was wacky, dude. Did you watch the whole press conference? Yeah, and I can tell you exactly what happened. What do you say? So it was the guy at the podium where he is performing.

Donald Trump is a comedian. He's a stand-up comedian. He's most successful stand-up comedian in America. Yeah, but he's also the president. In Ukraine, there is a stand-up comedian president. Okay, so what you were saying that what he was saying was a joke? So I'm gonna do him now, okay? I'm at the stage. These people are keep asking me what you're gonna do about the coronavirus. What's gonna happen with the economy when you're gonna open? How many people

gonna die? How many deaths are acceptable? All these stupid questions that I would not know how to answer something like that. Look, I'm doing my best here. I'm not taking anything on my own. I'm just coming in here and keeping you 24-7. When I give you comedy, I keep you in good mood, telling you everything is gonna be okay. We're gonna get the cure, we're gonna find something. And I'm here listening to these doctors, this specialist, the Corona Task Force. They are running the show right now. I'm just here to talk to you about it. And you're asking me stupid questions. So that's his first point. Second point is, you keep asking me. I just told you, stop asking me stupid, okay, I understand the light kills

the thing, because the doctor just showed it on a screen to the whole world, the coronavirus force, right? It kills the light. Doctor, I'm not a doctor, I don't know what's going on, you're a doctor, I'm the president. Can't you do something with the light if he kills this virus? To put it inside the body somehow and kill it the virus inside the lungs or something. He was making a joke he's a comedian. Look I'm doing my best here they are the specialists they are not doing anything yesterday he was the same story like day before yesterday we are still looking for the vaccine and the economy is shut down.

It's nothing new I can tell you to witness me right now as I'm explaining to these guys, get on it. Chlorine kills the virus. Is there any way that you can put some chlorine injected somehow and put it inside the lungs so you can kill this virus so we can all get to work and finish this stuff Because it's the same story every day. He was making a joke Yeah, I don't I don't think it was a joke, dude It wasn't a joke. It was just a careless thing that he said. I mean it was it's careless because like someone might try and Fucking drink bleach or some stupid shit like there's a lot of idiots out there I don't think look, I think you're right.

He was probably getting tired of the questions, but he wasn't trying to be funny. He was actually trying to say, you think so? Yeah, he was trying to be funny. I'm not feeling that. And then he went backstage and he realized, oh shoot, I'm the president. Yeah, it was a big mistake for sure.

And then when he came around, he's like whoops. He tried to wash it out a little bit, he didn't wash it clean. Instead of saying, look, I don't know chlorine and light kills this virus. I just told the doctors, do something. Finish this. Yeah. I want this to be over.'s what I meant I didn't mean you to go home and start buying chlorine and inject yourself of that well it needs to be careful I think that's it's that's just it's it was careless it was

well I apologize to American people for the misunderstanding if you took down to inject yourself with chlorine or think that to the beam light like in Star Trek and kill the virus like that then. Yeah, that's true. You are. You are dumb if you try. If you think that sunbathing will cure you and drinking bleach, that is a bad move. They definitely don't try that, but it's also you shouldn't have said that at all.

What did you think of Duncan saying that he applied for the CIA? He went online and so he's a Duncan, obviously, is a huge conspiracy theory dude, but he was talking about applying for the CIA and they checked the website and I guess it said that you could, if you've done drugs before you can still apply I thought hey, that's pretty progressive of you CIA Dark and Troussel wants to be a CIA agent. I missed that part. I don't think so I think he was just really high one night one night and he just saw the website and was like fuck it I'll apply for a job. I'm sure they didn't get back to him

He could be a great CIA agent who knows maybe I did that in probably 2008 or nine the same exact thing Nobody got you applied to the CIA most likely yes I remember that you mean most likely you forgot I have a slight memory like what if I'm not Right, but I clearly remember what if what does it take to be a CIA agent? Because I'm a big fan of the Nero's taxi driver. So there is that scene with him and the CIA agent that he was with the bodyguard. How do you get hired for a job like this as an agent?

And he was the same thing. You have to send an email and we'll be contacting you. I missed this conversation. So I don't know exactly what happened, but I didn't really get into more than that. But I thought that was interesting. I didn't even know they had a website that you could go to. That seems pretty funny. It's like what? They have a website? It's great. Probably look me up as a who is the idiot and then that's it, move on. Yeah, they listen to this podcast once and we both get to qualify immediately. Maybe like no chance on those nerds.

Alright, well, I loved it. I always like Duncan. He's a breath of fresh air and a ridiculous person but some great insights and, you know, oh, and he has a new show too. What was his new show called the Midnight Gospel, I think? It's like a cartoon show all right where he did the character he was talking highly about the team that worked at this cartoon and wow how they brought this project to last yeah I'm not familiar with it otherwise I would have talked more about it I don't know anything about it though which is a shame I should have looked into it but I didn't have any time.

Do you know about the show or no? I know it's very successful right now on the internet, this cartoon, and the character that Duncan is playing is amazing, and the drawings are amazing, and there was only good things. Let's all check it out. I'm a fan of the show. I definitely want to check that.

I want to watch it. I'm looking at of the show. I definitely want to check that. I want to watch it. I'm looking at the trailer now. It's kind of like, it almost, it looks very trippy. It almost looks kind of, I don't know how to describe it. It's a little like Rick and Morty-esque, at least the animation is. Rick and Morty on DMT. Yeah, basically, basically.

All right, so let's finish up with Coke, Massacar, I've just got a little bit of time. We could do 10 minutes on that. So this was your favorite guy of the week. I like Kirk a lot. He's been on before. What did you think? I think it was great.

I was impressed with the story about Jehovah Witnesses. And I was laughing my ass off when you were talking about these fagmas family that they were carrying And I was laughing my ass off when you was talking about these farmers family that they were carrying pallets of tobacco. Joe compacted that with Caterbills exercise, right? The farmer Strength, that's the real strength to the instead of doing with the catagas because Joe had a guy on a show instead of doing with the catagons, because Joe had the guy on the show preaching these catagons.

Oh, this is all you need, just do exercise with this. Our guy here, he said, why don't you get a job as a farmer or whatnot? Yeah. Funny. Well, they're immensely strong. They're immensely strong. I mean, for sure.

I don't know if it's just because it's like an entire life of like hard work and lifting and probably that, but maybe it's just a lineage, like a strong lineage, like a Viking lineage, but like a farmer lineage is like tough as all nails. I don't know. I've never met like a farmer that was a pussy. I'll tell you that much. Those guys are strong as fuck. And the women that work on farms too. I mean they just they're just tough. It's a hard job. This guy was so funny by bringing his life up front and say, how are you? Jehovah witness. This is what's up with the Jehovah witness thing. He was talking about how do you call. Yeah. Yeah, he was talking about cults and why you

shouldn't fucking join cults. Don't join him. The conversation about the cults. Yeah, yeah, he was talking about cults and why you shouldn't fucking join cults Don't join them the conversation about the rapes. Oh, they were hiding the the rapes because they were so don't say anything You know because it's just between you and God They were not reporting that to the police or whatnot Well, a lot of crazy stuff like that to the Jehovah he was making fun of that so he was fun to listen to him making to the Jehovah, he was making fun of that, so he was fun to listen to him, making comedy out of this tragedy. What Joe was saying that knowing Kurt,

he's always been a guy to call out bullshit. Like he's been very good at identifying bullshit and calling bullshit on things, because maybe it's because he was in the Jehovah's Witnesses and he thought, too much bullshit. He didn't like that or he just saw parallels with other stuff and he's like no this is bullshit!

Yeah too much bullshit! All the Jovus witnesses I've ever met seem like very nice guys. People, they're like Mormons. They seem very nice too. But I'm not gonna join. Did you notice that I don't know if you watched this one on YouTube? But Jov is wearing a Carol did it. So he had the Carol Baskins, like a T-shirt,

they said Carol did it. You see the fucking Tiger King? I did, what's up with that? Well, you know that Carol Baskins, right? I watched the show. Yeah, so how they accused her of killing the husband? Well, we don't know that. Well, exactly, but Joe had a T-shirt to say Carol did it. Oh, did it.

That's what I did in this episode. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Wow. It was great. That's a great t-shirt. I love that. I thought that was hilarious. Can you get suit for something like that? Very, very funny. Nah, it's just a t-shirt. Relax. Yeah, fuck it. Who's gonna sue Joe Rogan? Good luck, right? He can afford some fucking good lawyers I'd wear that t-shirt. I think that's funny shit One interesting thing they did talk about that I really liked was when they were talking about how we perceive the media Right news fake news all this stuff and he brought up the fact that he thinks of the daily show Kind of even though that's a great show like it it like changed the way that we see the news because it was comedy it was comedy and news and there's like a new generation that grew up

with like funny news like think of uh... that john all of us show the were what is it called the week weekly report or now fucking idiot come on weekend report i don't know know John Oliver's show on HBO Is it's like it's comedy, but it's also news and that's that's interesting that I've never really thought about how the daily show Kind of changed the way that we understand the news have you ever thought about that in a beginning? I thought about it when Fox News came on with Bill O'Reilly and he didn't represent the news. He was a comedian telling the news, right? Having the Republican side.

He could have been brought by Democrats at that time on that station you don't matter it was just uh... stand-up show to me well fox news is like heavily like conservative anyway so like pretty much all of their news guys are conservative guys so that was the beginning when i saw our reporter

or uh... a tv show host a tv news host is not now impartial anymore. All right, so you know what you're watching. It didn't happen like that before independent cable networks, news networks. Fox News. Yeah, they definitely got very polarized after that for sure. That's why it was like the Colbert report the you've watched out with the steven colbert yeah how he would do he would do like a parody on

uh... conservative talk show host but it was like the country split fifty fifty between democrats and republicans so for uh... if i would run the network the company and this guy would say uh show is for the Republican. I said bro, you're nuts, it does not going to happen. You can be neither the Republican or Democrat.

We sell this show to the whole America, the country. Here, we don't keep a site for, you understand? No, I cannot do that. And I'll say okay, bye bye, I'll hire the next guy. Well, it's for ratings though. They kind of got to follow that flow right? They got to see whatever pushes the most ratings and it seems like for the late those talk shows Late night talk shows. It's all about being pretty liberal like they're all Democrats for sure

That's a mistake from a business perspective. Yeah, I like Democrats. I like more Democrats more the social programs So I like that you think they should be more middle of the road though to sell to the entire country So the stock goes up you want to do business? Well, you want to do politics? Which one? Yeah, yeah, it's a good point Well, I liked I liked the fact that Kirk broke that up. I thought it was a really smart Like I'd never looked at the news like that before. And it really made me think about like how absurd the news has got. And why people are like, you know what, these news like CNN or Fox or whatever,

it's so polarizing. Why not just watch John Oliver or the Colbert Report or the New Daily Show. It's like, you know, does it even matter this point where we get our news from? It might as well make it entertaining. Might as well make it funny. That's when you do both.

You do business and politics in the same time. Nero your audience, like Fox News does. And you're gonna sell only to old people. You saw the advertising of All people yeah, yeah, they sell like Jack it's just all people umbrellas Stupid idiotic catheters they have money all life insurance Yeah, remorgaging. Yeah, by gold. Yeah, it's all people shit. All right, so final thoughts on mess. If I would run the network, I'm just putting this out there, you know, for

the people, maybe I get a job as a network executive. If I run the network, I have to report to my boss. So what happens now you have my audience is from 58 or 115 years old. Get the fuck out of here with this network you got us bankrupt. I want to sell to the young people that they make money I want to sell to 18 to 48. Yep, because the children network is separate. All right, so final thoughts on Matzka I know it is your favorite one and let's wrap it up. Nothing else because I'm gonna tell you because this is my favorite show, it's just I didn't have time and when I listened to it I felt asleep and then I had to go back to work, I didn't have time to listen to the whole show. So what else did they talk about these guys? I almost said Pederaz, dude, not a Pederaz. How do you call this pentacoster? One bit they didn't get into was, they started looking at people with syphilis,

just like the effects of syphilis. So they were just basically talking about diseases in the past and like how fucked up it was. Like your nose would fall off of syphilis. Your skin would open up into these like nasty, what would they be called ulcers maybe? And then your hair would fall out. So that's why people would wear wigs.

And if you were super rich, you would have a bigger wig. And that's where the expression big wigs came from. Big wigs just means that you had a lot of money, but really it also means you had fucking syphilis and your hair fell out. So you wore a wig. And I don't know. Maybe it was such a status symbol that it maybe

even people without syphilis would wear wigs just so they had fucking big hair, I don't know. But that was just wacky. When there were no antibiotics. Crazy times in the past, man, I'm glad we live now, I'm glad we live now. Because the thing that we'd have sex and our hair would fall out is, is no good. No good at all. Did you ever get one of these venerical diseases? Not syphilis, no. But the other things? No, I've never got any before. Yeah, me either.

Not any bad ones. Not anything that antibiotics couldn't sort out. So we're good. You got that thing, the the one that you just take take like couple antibiotics and is gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah That's fine. Maybe I don't know what was the name of that one. I don't remember. I don't NSU Non-specific urethritis. It's just like a urinary tract. Does it you can just drink fucking Crambory juice and get that cleaned up really? Yeah, I never had that problem. Oh, okay one of now. I feel like an asshole is just this is interesting This is interesting right now with the corona facts pro. It's facts with the corona

I think there is not so much sex going around in it. Yeah, who knows but anyway good week of podcasts I really enjoyed it was a lot of fun and Can't wait to see who's it. You's. It seems like he's braver now. He wants people back in the studio. He was having people just calling before I think now that he can do testing at his facility. He's going to have people there more often. It's going to be interesting to see what Gessie has coming up. I hope we got some big names. It's, you know, I can't think who I would like on anytime soon. Obviously still should Pell should go on, but we'll see. Fingers crossed. Yeah.

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