Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jack Carr et al.

Episode Date: May 9, 2020

This week we discuss Joe's podcast guests as always. Guest list: Tim Pool, Jessimae Peluso, Jack Carr and Alonzo Bondden Stay safe..   Enjoy folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/j...oeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email us here with any suggestions, comments and questions for future shows.. Joeroganexperiencereview@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Podcast. You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your hosts Adam Thorn. My either of you the worst podcasting one of the best ones. One, go. Enjoy the show. Hello guys and George. Welcome to another episode of the JRE Review. This week we're reviewing a pretty good week of podcasts. We got Tim Poulon, Jessimae Paluso, Jack Carr, and the end of the week was Lonzo Bowden, one of Joe's good friends, and the winner of last comic stand up. Well, standing. That's it. He's excellent. So how are you doing George? What's your week been like? My week was crazy with Joe Rogan's cash-up. Do you remember when we spoke about cash-up and I had to install it and I used the Justin Rents life for the forgotten to say yeah yeah you you want a hundred bucks right dude I
Starting point is 00:01:07 want a hundred bucks then I start buying stocks all the money that I became so obsessed every single day I was waking up I was going to is nothing to do at work I'm just freaking sitting there I am right now a security guard this is the job that I found available. This is where I can make some money. It's nothing going on there. So I just started using cash app from Joe Rogan and buying stocks and basically doing almost day trades.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I can do only three trades in five rolling days period and you make it any money? Dude, I made like in airlines about 700 bucks, I made in tech for one month I am playing this, I didn't tell you about it. Since we we started the podcast. Holy crap, you made 700 bucks, nice. 700 then I sold everything, then I bought again into airlines and Warren Buffett sold all these American stocks in the airlines and I lost 700 dollars in oh dear last three days. Yeah, yeah, that stuff's complicated man
Starting point is 00:02:20 I don't I don't do a lot of that. I don't know what's going on too stupid to guess that Basically, but, anyway. Yeah. Well, that's good. At least, hey, at least you want, you made some and it's unfortunately lost it, but pretty good. Maybe try again and do better. Well, I still own the same value shares of the stocks. Like, I still own the money that I invested. I just have to wait for the stock to go back up.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Oh, I got you. Yeah, it probably even out, right? Well, when the airlines are gonna start flying again. That's it. I know. There's some cheap flights, man. You can fly to Chicago from LA for like $35 right now. It's crazy. They return. Like, that's insane. like Chicago from LA for like $35 right now. It's crazy. They return. Like that's insane.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It's probably more expensive to get an Uber to the airport from my place. They have too many planes on the ground right now. That's why the bus is stuck. It makes sense. All right, so what we've got this week, what was your favorite one? What stood out for you?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Team pool. Tate, you like 10 pool, did you? I like it. I felt a step on who started talking about the UFOs. I went right and money. Tim's good though. I like him coming on. Let's start with Tim's then because I want to end with Jack Carr. That was my favorite. The former Navy SEAL that wrote the book. And so yeah, let's get started with with Temple 1465. So Temple is a journalist and I think he used to work for a vice, a young guy, pretty hyper active, speaks really quickly. But definitely a smart dude for sure. And ever since he's been coming on Rogue and I've really enjoyed him coming on and just But definitely a smart, smart dude for sure and
Starting point is 00:04:11 Ever since he's been coming on Rogan, I've really enjoyed him coming on and just giving it's like a bit of fresh air for like News and information. I like his style And he has a sweet travel van that he showed up with which sounded really cool like all run by solar panels And I guess he's like trekking across the country in that thing which is that's it's a pretty cool time to do it. Where did you draw it from? I don't know where he came from. I think the East Coast somewhere. I think that's where he is. I don't know exactly but it is a long drive I think. Three days of driving. I could be wrong. Do what? Maybe three, four days of driving? Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It sounded like he'd been on the road a while. He did talk about going through New Mexico. And that's kind of the route. I mean, if you're coming from further east, like you might go down. What would that be? Like I 40, basically like Route 66 way. Kind of coming around to the west. I used to make that drive quite a bit. There's a lot of work, but maybe if you got a cool van, it's all about. So what did you like the most about Tim? What's your perception of him? I like how he does his research, man, and how his mind works. He's a very intelligent Dude Yeah, do you have any examples of what stood out for you?
Starting point is 00:05:37 No, I don't can you refresh my cuz I smoke a lot of weed just let's So do I man. That's okay. Don don't worry give me some whoop yeah so um so after he came on he sat down in the shed a lot about kind of he talked a bit about tribalism they covered the trip they said oh you came here in the van blah blah blah they started they finished that and then yeah um let me think he did talk a lot about tribalism you know like how we're we kind of forget that we're very tribal as people and during this pandemic, you know people have come together in their own little tribal sense like people want to reopen now so they're showing up at like town halls. They've got guns. They're saying let us out
Starting point is 00:06:24 You know and it's that's kind of like tribal energy in a sense. Just talking about kind of like the sociology of people, which I found really interesting. I thought his take on that was was pretty fascinating. Yeah, and you know, that's why I'm asking because he had a couple of good points That I forget right now completely I didn't take any notes. Yeah, that's okay. I mean, but he's basically saying people wanted out You know, they don't want to be stuck at home anymore I'm sure a lot of people listening feel the same way if you've not been working. I mean It's like okay, we want to be safe, but maybe enough's enough. Let's let's's get out let's get back to real life. Yeah and I it seems even for me in my personal life I am having
Starting point is 00:07:10 contacted more people. I'm the type of guy I just don't have any many friends I have like five total that I speak with and my family that's it my products so now I'm speaking with more people, I'm going on Facebook, doing live show, hey, work with this, is that crazy. I went to the grocery store the other day and I started speaking with a couple of ladies, one in front of me, one behind me.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Well, look at you. Yeah, old ladies, don't get me wrong, they were like one was maybe 60s and 50s. One of them, she was a little wacky, I just gave her the start and she started, she wouldn't stop talking. And the other one, she was more of a retreat, treat But exactly like you say the tribal instinct from us. It's like talking Oh, and we were sharing well. We are here in the line and they should do the line from the other side and all this type of It's a yeah I think people want to connect you know, they want to get back to connecting and and engaging
Starting point is 00:08:24 I see when I go outside, like I noticed more people are like, hey, how you doing? You know, do you need anything? You know, how how's everything been with this, this, you know, with the pandemic and the quarantine, teaning and blah, blah, blah. And I don't know if they do it around where you are, but here in Santa Monica at 8 p.m. Almost the whole city, Howls. It's a thing that they do here. They're howl like a dog or a wolf. They're like, oh, and they do it Because they want to get out. They want this to end. They want the quarantine to end. So it's just like this fun thing But in a sense, that's kind of
Starting point is 00:09:03 to end so it's just like this fun thing but in a sense that's kind of tribalistic too. It's like a lot of people do it they come together it's like we're all in this together and I think it's I think it's pretty fun you know in a way to see that I mean it's definitely a positive thing that's come out of this. I just left from Ward Gurdley to 20 minutes ago and my coworker goes oh yeah man I'm he's going to the oh yeah man I'm is going to the cinema I said you miss going to the cinema but oh yeah they now they release all these movies they come up with a movie boom directly on DVD you mean streaming yeah streaming so I was thinking of AMC the stock is so low right now you can buy AMC if you think
Starting point is 00:09:46 people gonna go back to the cinemas I don't think so no chance yeah that's what I'm thinking I said you don't watch like a huge TV at home I think they're gonna close I think a lot of the movie theaters are gonna close I don't know what's gonna happen but this industry was generating billions of dollars, dude. Yeah, but people can buy it now from their house. I mean, as long as people are still paying, you know, they just need to sell the movie show for the same price as a ticket. Or maybe less, because they don't have to pay for a movie theater, and they maybe they make their
Starting point is 00:10:22 money that way. I don't know, maybe that's just the thing of the past maybe sitting with a bunch of people watching a movie is just not How people are gonna do it anymore. I mean, I'm sure there be some this they open But I've got a feeling the majority of them are gonna close and people aren't gonna go back for a while That's just a thought for a while. That's just a thought. I mean, I can fly again, bro. Because the money that I lost is southwest headlines. Do you think people are going to fly again in airplanes?
Starting point is 00:10:52 And airplanes are going to be full? Oh, yeah. I don't know. I mean, people have to fly. You know, for work and travel. And, you know, they're going to want to fly in a ticket to cheap enough. They're put up with sit next to people I mean yeah maybe people would just wear their masks all the time who knows travel where team pool was saying that
Starting point is 00:11:13 one another guy he heard we're gonna have one month closed and then another month open another month. That's nuts Yeah, maybe I don't know it's it's so hard to guess But you know that's it's kind of what Tim was getting at in this podcast It's like what what is happening? I mean they talk about the Trump travel bands, you know so he bands travel he gets a lot of criticism they talked about this and um you know, so he bands travel, he gets a lot of criticism, they talked about this. And, um, you know, when you look back on it, it was a good move. They had to band travel.
Starting point is 00:11:50 He did it fairly early, band it from China almost immediately. And it helped slow the spread. I mean, it was, it was a good move. So we're going to become tribes again. Do you remember in a past in history, you don't remember, because you didn't leave that long? But we were separate, right? In America here, there were some different kind of people
Starting point is 00:12:12 in the indigenous people, is it? Yeah, Indians, yeah, well, they had no connection with Queen. No, correct. And the pilgrims from left. Yes, I am. Right. So right now, if we don't allow the Chinese to come to America, it's going to be kind of the same. We are separating. You're going to go to China and can speak. Wow, we discovered the new world. In a, well, I don't know. I mean, we're still connected in a lot of other ways and that still is traveling I mean we they're still gonna information flows really
Starting point is 00:12:52 fast these days so it's not like we cut off there we're still gonna get exposure but yeah maybe people won't travel to between those countries as much anymore at least for a while I wanted to buy some stocks with Joe Rogan's cash-up. I'm sorry Justin Rents from Save the Pigmeas in the forgotten. Yeah. And I didn't buy any Chinese stocks. They have like Google, Chinese Google, they have all kinds of stuff that you can buy. And I was like, hmm man, you know, I'm buying, I'm buying internal. I'm buying, that's why I said I'm gonna do such a creating investment I'm gonna buy
Starting point is 00:13:28 American airlines I mean Southwest Airlines but is American here made in America you know Trump is gonna support that I'm gonna be fine with my money proves that it's not right you know but Chinese I didn't buy and I'm not a Chinese racist Okay, well that's good to hear that's good to hear But yeah, who knows how those stocks ago? I mean this is a volatile time to get into stocks I would imagine it's probably difficult to To gauge what's happening in the market However, did people mention that China is back in business? Or I heard that on some work of ours.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Because China seems like that's it. Back in the street, the businesses are opening. And we are just five months behind, maybe? Yeah, I haven't heard a lot of what they're saying over there. What did you think about when Tim talked a bit about universal basic income? And like everybody getting enough money to survive, which is kind of what's happening now, in some ways, with the corona relief and unemployment and these stimulus checks. You know, do you think that that is, it's a good idea for society or does it take away people's incentives?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Do you think people just won't want to work because they don't need to? Because they get given free money. When did you visit UK last time? Let me see. It was about just over a year ago, about a year and a half. When you visited, it was that law when the restaurants did not allow to throw food away. The restaurants weren't allowed to throw food, I don't know, I hadn't heard about this. I think they're just starting implementing something of this sort of law.
Starting point is 00:15:26 However, imagine, you know, I used to work in a restaurant, man, before. They throw so much food, and I can only imagine if all this food is not being thrown, in a sense of having a responsibility as a restaurant owner to report the quantity of the food. And if it's too much, you're gonna pay for it. You know what I mean? If you throw food, you have to pay fine, or something like that. In a communist stage, I'm combining your ideas.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So just buried me for a second. Before the guy got shot, which was the leader of 23 million people, was keeping them under control. If this dude would give the people freedom, and also his magnificent plan to build feeding locations, where you Adam Torn and your family would come every day and you would have three meals a day kind of like universal income or food so your food is for sure You're not gonna is gonna be kind of like a cantina. I mean you're not gonna have everything that you would like like calamar Maybe they don't have calamari that day
Starting point is 00:16:52 That would be so sustainable in this day and age 2020 when we have access to these computers so fast this crypto connection and all these servers dude you can manage food for the planet. It's a plan that needs to be implemented. Yeah. Are you saying like let super computers figure out how to feed everybody? Not the super computer. We figure out how to feed everybody with the help of the super computers. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, and control the production of assets,
Starting point is 00:17:30 like everything that we produce, food, world, the whole thing. This should be in some kind of world fund. I'm not mistaken, but Joe was actually talking about a similar concept. Not on this podcast. Not on this podcast. I'm a big fan, I'm listening. Oh, I gotcha. Well, it makes sense. It makes sense for sure. I mean, that would be a good move. Why not? I'm sure they have computer models that kind of try to run and predict these things kind of try to run and predict these things to help out. I mean, there's a lot of people 7 billion. I mean, we got to think about those things. Do you like when how how come Google and Apple shook hands for the tracking the trace tracking whatever the hell to track your cell phone to see where you are
Starting point is 00:18:26 What do you mean they sure can with? They are they should hands in a contract of collaboration To form this online database So they have the program ready with all the entire population of the United States all the location of every each individual It's in one database from those two companies combined Apple and Google. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, and they just need the government approval for the green light to start using the information. And you would basically just, you have an app pop up from the government in your phone and say
Starting point is 00:19:05 This is the coronavirus check up now we're tracking you to see all your human connections In case you get infected we're gonna keep tracking this and eliminate virus. I mean, it's it's a smart move for eliminating the virus But I don't like the sound of it. It's too much control So we don't like that kind of control. It didn't pass. Insult were good. Yeah. In South Korea and China, it was already passed. They invented it. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that we didn't hear. We've more freedom and I'd rather, I'd rather believe that we could figure it out another way than just like massive surveillance.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Talking about kind of like along the lines of conspiracies, they ended a lot of their talk with that new UFO video that the Pentagon released that just shows these UFOs traveling really, really quickly. And Joe made an interesting point. He said that, what did he say? He said, you know, this is crazy thing. And then they talked a lot about Bob Lazare and Tim's not really,
Starting point is 00:20:08 doesn't really believe it necessarily. But Joe said, what a crazy time that because there's this pandemic going on, they release this information and it's not like the top story. It's not like the biggest news. Like people are so concerned about this pandemic that the idea that, yeah, the Pentagon just said that they acknowledge UFOs isn't even a big deal. I mean, that just seems crazy to me. To me, it seems crazy when I'm walking on a street, because I'm not wearing the mask when I'm walking on a damn street in LA
Starting point is 00:20:45 I walk to work every Every morning 15 minutes when I come back I walk back 15 minutes Everybody you don't wear your masks, you know, you don't believe in it or what? It's nobody on a street where I walk. Oh, I gotcha But when I see people with masks to me was unbelievable if you tell me three months ago we all gonna wear masks They're gonna be what is the band is like a world of bandits Yeah, right. It's very strange. It's a huge shift I mean it wasn't that weird for me to see because I spent some time in Japan a few years ago, and almost everybody there, when they're traveling, especially on the trains and walking around,
Starting point is 00:21:29 a lot of people have masks on all the time. And that was odd to see, but they just, they just do it. It's in their culture, so it wasn't, it hasn't been that bizarre for me to see it. I guess they just do it for health, maybe they decided that it's a good thing, maybe because you know, they're around a lot of people, the trains get real packed, so maybe it's just their way of like slowing the spread of like flu or anything, but they've been doing that for a long time. To me, you know what, the mask means more like fuck this planet. It's a... Let's take care of this. Let's make the air clean. Because before the virus, why would you wear a mask?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Because of the pollution. Yep. So yeah. It's very true. It is. But I like simple. If you got to wear a mask in 2020, when you have computers you have food
Starting point is 00:22:26 I mean for us that were a little bit civilized for me. I'm dumb, but there's so many smart people out there Yeah, you can get together To fix these things like you're so clear to universal Income for the first people feed everybody make sure everybody's got some food They don't want to eat it fine but they have a freaking coupon or a ticket to go to eat food, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, you're gonna break a lot of businesses. You have to change the whole system This is a tremendous the Trump can't handle Changing the system like this. So he would have to put together like Joe Rogan says like 12 smart people or maybe 24 smart people. I don't know how many scientists and say hey figure this shit out you know all the people on the planet let's just put everyone so we know of each other where we're at. You have on Facebook oh I am safe during the, I don't know what shooting was happening in France. I am safe. I am safe. Do you remember putting flags
Starting point is 00:23:32 on everybody's Facebook? I never really used Facebook to be honest. No. Well, it's something like that. There is a system where everybody is connected. So you can actually connect everyone. Yeah. Well, let's wrap up with Tim Paul and let's move on but any final thoughts about him? No. George? No. No. But good good guys smart dude I hope we get him back on again and yeah I see what you like him too. I'm definitely a fan.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Next up, we got 1466 Jessame Paluso, comedian, funny, funny, loads of energy. She's always a good time on the podcast. She says a lot of funny stuff. Joe and her had a good time. They really laughed a lot and I, and I appreciate it. She was on not that long ago I think too. She was like maybe six months ago she was on. It's hard to remember when people were on but it wasn't that long ago and I really enjoyed just kind of her energy. They talk about comedy obviously, Joe's not even writing anymore. He's not writing any comedy right now.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I find that interesting. I would have thought during quarantine would be a good time to sit and write maybe more, but he's taking a break. Well, he's taking on a podcast. Yeah, I think so. Writing for the podcast is kind of the same thing probably he's got like a bunch of guests lined up All with dates then he helps he's obsessing more and more the more viewer viewers and listeners he has Shit, he's like a it's like a fucking responsibility now. What is something to be something fun?
Starting point is 00:25:22 No, I don't think Joe worries too much about who's listening. He knows that his podcast is massive. I don't think he worries too much about that. He doesn't seem like much of a warrior. So he claims. Yeah, but he's an honest guy. He would say if he was, I think. I think he seems that a good friend.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I know. I just, sorry. I just never heard him speaking about this. Like how he handles the gears, like there is any pressure. Yeah, he talks about it quite a lot. He basically says that he tries not to think about it. He tries not to think about who's listening just so he can focus on the podcast. Because otherwise it's... the numbers are too big. It gets it, it, it get up in his
Starting point is 00:26:09 own head and he won't be able to just kind of speak freely, you know, about what's happening. And I think that's a good, a good thing for any podcast or anyone with a large audience to think about because, you know, you could get overwhelmed with the responsibility of who's listening. Instead of just saying, look, this is just my message, this is what I've got to say, and just kind of let that happen. Anyway, what did you think about Jez and me as a person? No, I think he just goes off the cuff. Like, sometimes he might, if it's a bit, but you know, he knows what he wants to say. So he just, he just kind of thinks of it as he goes.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I don't think he has like a notebook with him. He doesn't, either, as far as I know, I've never, when you watch the video, he usually doesn't have anything in front of him. Then it's just a conversation. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a conversation yeah yeah it's just a conversation really he's he has an amazing personality Joe Rogan no wonder he's got so many listeners like I'm looking at myself as we're speaking about this and I say I'm not like
Starting point is 00:27:17 that like I'm under pressure right now I know you have like a bunch of listeners that are listening to you you sound fantastic like a nice dude from Santa Monica UK Coming from UK here in America or comedian and I sound like a immigrant like a retarded immigrant and I go over to stop thinking about it. It just don't worry about it. It's just a podcast He just told you you just have an conversation with me don't worry about it. It's just a podcast. He just told you, you just have an conversation with me. Don't worry about it. And I'm having fun.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And I'm trying to enjoy myself, but I know there is a pressure deep inside that I have. I got you. Maybe maybe you're smoking too much weed, man. You're getting paranoid. No, no. There is no. For what paranoid? I'm on a, I'm on a podcast and it's paranoid. Only my worry is that someone is, I'm not gonna listen to this asshole, and they're just gonna hang up the radio.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And then you'll listen to the guy, listen to the guy, but maybe the listening time is gonna be less. Okay, I'm done with this guy. All, well let's not do that. Let's get back to the podcast, yeah. So, so, Jésame and Joe, they were talking, the big big thing that they kind of started off with, they were talking about, and this is something that you all have something to say about, people acting in movies and how good they are. And they gave the example, I think, of Will Smith playing Muhammad Ali. Like he looked like Muhammad Ali. Like he moved like him, he spoke like him.
Starting point is 00:28:51 He was boxing well. And it's just, it really is incredible to watch certain actors really get into the part and play, just play a part really well. They also talked about Jamie Foxx. I mean, he's so talented as a person, but just really incredible to watch, then kind of become that person. Who's your favorite actor? Yeah. Oh like one of them. Because they're so different. I'm not going to pick. But I like Sean Penn. You like Sean Penn? Yeah he's definitely a good actor.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. I mean he's he's phenomenal a child actor and also we had like a terrorized Childhood and career and he lived well and he didn't quit. He just kept acting now. I don't know how old is champagne I don't know he'd probably in his 50s. I would imagine I would imagine 50s. I didn't see Shampen in the movie. Last time I saw him, he was with El Chapo when he captured El Chapo. That's right, that was a crazy story. That was a crazy movie. Yeah, there were knots.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Shampen capturing El Chapo. You didn't imagine that. That's like Trump becoming president. Almost. You didn't imagine that that's like Trump becoming president almost They they remember when they talked about snitches like the governor I think it was was it of New York or I can't remember where but one of the governors is his like He'd been giving incentives to like
Starting point is 00:30:42 basically snitch on incentives to like basically snitch on people that were not taking care of themselves with social distancing and offering kind of a reward. And you know, Jesse May was definitely saying that this is seriously fucked up. And I completely agree. I think that's crazy it's definitely not the America that I know it is what it is remember when we spoke on the other podcast about the communist system where they were doing basically the same thing right exchanging information at the lowest level of population like family members we need that info so now it's definitely bad. Yeah, it's all about information. Now the virus carried this responsibility of social distancing. Right. Yeah. I saw on TV one guy went to the store and he wiped his nose on a lady that she was working at the grocery store
Starting point is 00:31:47 oh, gross she asked him to put the mask on and he just went and wiped his nose on her shirt and left did he get arrested? I'm talking about the police the police was looking for him oh that's awful that's gross some other guy coughed. Oh, two other guys.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Three guys killed three or four killed one security guard guy from a dollar store because they got into an argument about wearing masks because the security guys was asking them to wear the mask. Yeah, people are people are going to act nuts. Talking about things like that and people acting nuts and government control, they talk about the show Waco on Netflix. Have you seen this? The new show? I think it's like five or six parts. Yes, I've seen the whole show. It was excellent. I started watching it, but I thought it was going to be bad,
Starting point is 00:32:43 because I'm pretty critical. I get it's gonna be bad because I'm I'm pretty Critical on I get bored. I just close it. I mean it might be very good for the general public But because I'm watching these things from a filmmaker perspective and I'm always thinking how they shot and how they did this and that The details I get lost and if the story is not really good to make me forget about my job and actually go with the story that Wackel was pretty Up there 90 over 90% good And it's hard to get the 100 Okay, I see it was just so shocking to me though. I didn't know a lot about that story. I know I
Starting point is 00:33:27 heard about the fire obviously and people died and that they were occult but I didn't know the pressure that the FBI put on them and I didn't know that the FBI went in like they did use the gas, you know, basically trap them and then they all, you know, suffocated in the, sorry, spoiler, but anyway, it's, it was a really moving show and it does make you think, like, this is why you do need to keep an eye on the government when they're doing things, you know, and the police and the FBI, because they can't have too much power without a lot of oversight, because they can get up to some horrendous things. It was pretty
Starting point is 00:34:14 awful. But anyway, Jezomey was great at a ton of energy, and I really enjoy her being on that. She's one of the comedians, especially female comedians, that I like the most coming on the podcast. She always has a lot of really funny perspectives on things. I like to the lot. She was very happy and yeah. She was good. She's really cool. So the last one of the week was Alonzo Bowden. We're going to go back and do the Jack Carl one. I want to finish up with that. But Alonzo is a stand-up. He did podcast 1468. He's a good friend of Joe's. He's known Joe a long time. Great guy. He's been on a few times. Always has really interesting things to
Starting point is 00:35:01 say. He's a smart dude, well thought out. He's kind of calm, speaks in in like a pretty calm manner, which I think is really cool. And yeah, he won last comic stand up. So last comic standing is a stand up show on TV, and it's pretty prestigious to be able to win that. It's it's interesting. I haven't watched a to learn that show but uh... they do have really good comedians on that for sure did you participate in uh... this uh... no i've never i don't know anything about the show really but uh...
Starting point is 00:35:39 uh... i know a lot of good comics will go on that and uh... that you know their careers really open up when uh... when they win that they get a lot of exposure comics will go on there and you know their career is really open up when they win that. They get a lot of exposure which is excellent. Anything that supports stand up on big fan-offs so even shows like that I like. The first thing they talk about is the Marvel movies and the Marvel characters and the like the who has the most power whether it's like four or the Hulk and these different ones do you have a favorite Marvel character? No, I don't you you're a fan of those movies or no, no, I never watch these things dude. I mean, it's just I'm watching It's fantastic from a business perspective. I'm watching all these special effects at some point that was the the best
Starting point is 00:36:28 Visual effect for me when I was in a cinema now. I was I was in a cinema because I didn't go I was actually in front of the computer and I watched a bunch of superheroes flying through the air but there was it was so through the air but it was something like I just I died and then I woke up and there was just a different world of movies they were like a car flying with another superhero flying slicing then another one shooting like some kind yeah it sounds great lighting right why would you not like that? That's awesome. I don't know. It's just I feel like the characters are not defined the way I like it. I get it. You should watch him though if you haven't. I mean they're definitely worth it. Maybe you'll get into him. I was acting in the first Iron Man and a second one.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You were in it? Yeah, yeah, in the first one. I was in a courtroom. In a what? In a courtroom. Oh, in a courtroom, okay? Yeah. And the second one, I was a camera operator.
Starting point is 00:37:44 No shit. Yeah, so did you wait you were a camera operator filming the movie or you just had a camera and you were in the movie I was in the movie. Oh, I get you Robert Downey Jr Now I was filming. He was a press conference. I remember at Stark technologies and He was the ball guy speaking the dude what's his name? Oh Jeff Bridges I think? Yes, Jeff Bridges and then Robert Downey Jr. was coming. Oh that's pretty sweet, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:19 So you at least saw that movie right? You watched it? Definitely. I was in it. I had to watch it. That one's a good one. I like the Iron Man. The Iron Man movies were good. Well the first two were good. The third woman is a little wacky I thought. But still interesting. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Look, I have nothing. I'm not like Squacese. Squacese made a statement. Oh, he is something about this Movies the superhero movies. I'm just saying they seem to me like a Sunday morning Children kids show Teen teens when I was I get it. Yeah, I get it. I mean it it is a bit like that. If I'm 13, I want to watch this super heroes, all of them. Everything, I don't want to go to school.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I don't want to learn anything, nothing. I just want to eat, masturbate, and watch super heroes. But I'm 42. Do you want me to watch that? I't I can't I get it I get it You got to give me something good something amazing like tell me a TV show right now that I have to watch after we finish this podcast You should you should watch Ozark if you haven't watch Ozark you should watch Ozark season one season one is good season two, season three, and on I just quit. Bad.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I really like season three. I thought it was. There were some really cool things that happened in the last season. I liked it a lot. Talking about movies, they talked about Godzilla movies, like the old, old Godzilla movies. And you know, and these guys are older. I mean, Joe's in his 50s. Godzilla movies like the old old Godzilla movies and You know and these guys are older. I mean Joe's in his 50s. I think Alonso is about the same age and If you seen many of the old Godzilla movies like where the guy is kind of like in a costume walking around the miniature city
Starting point is 00:40:21 none Oh, you haven't seen oh, dude. I mean, they're a bit wacky to watch now, but for the time, they were so super popular. Godzilla moves. I used to love watching those when I was a little kid. They were great. I mean, he's a good monster thing. And he's kind of like good and bad I mean he smashes up the city, but he always like kills the monster and
Starting point is 00:40:50 the way I grew up It didn't nobody served me this fantasy characters Hmm Well, maybe they maybe they didn't have it in your country. I don't know But there's a good you check them out as a filmmaker. You should watch that. Superman and Spider-Man. Yes. This too. For sure. You had him. Yeah. Superman was a great movie.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But the rest of those. What did you think of the kids? E drinking hand sanitizer. They talked about that. I can't believe that a lot of kids are, but that is shocking. Why the hell are any, why is anyone drinking hand sanitizer? What a bunch of dummies. To put it on Instagram or YouTube.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Is not like one of those trends? No, I think they said that they're like getting sick from drinking this stuff Yeah, I don't know why but Well, that's fucking stupid don't drink hand sanitizer people please no and don't eat detergent either at some point They were eating those little bubbles of detergent and put you know, yeah the tide pods Right and that must have tasted awful yeah, the tide pods. Right. I'm not... that must have tasted awful. What the hell are they thinking?
Starting point is 00:42:11 Just to be funnier on YouTube and get on a trend. Or on TikTok. Oh, I get you. Well, they should be banned. That's not smart at all. And then, you know, they were talking about doctors coming out these days, and they're talking about the coronavirus. So, you know, doctors are supposed to come out and give us the information, the right information, because they went to med school and they know. And there's some of them coming out saying that this isn't even a disease, that in fact it's all caused by radiation poisoning.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And that, that's kind of dangerous rhetoric. I mean that's not a smart, I don't know shit about diseases and viruses, but I know it's not from radiation. That doesn't make any sense. There's got nothing to do with the 5G. Yeah, I think that's what they're trying to push. I know, right? I just can't believe that this is still popping up
Starting point is 00:43:06 and people are talking about it. It's like, what? Who came up with this stupidity? Is like the flat-tank guy? I know, probably. They pray at a meeting and just, this is what they came out with. It's nuts.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So it's like, where do you get your information? You know, your news from. Because there's so much fake news, so much misinformation. Alonzo was saying that he's a big fan of The New York Times. He talked about that. That's a good place to get it. But there's just so much bad information out there. It coming at us from all different angles, from all these websites and news sources and
Starting point is 00:43:42 articles. And I think that's a big part of what's confusing people. All the mainstream media is believable, like everything that you see CNN, not Fox. You see why not? Because Fox is more like a newspaper that would say, oh, UFO landed in your hometown in UK. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Oh, like one of those grocery store ones? Yes. When CNN, it's a real news organization. A voice of America. It's a government news organization. I don't know, they have have who knows how many employees 100 something but they're all specialists like journalists. It's not a government news organization. It's a private entity. A voice of America? What? Oh no, I thought you said CNN. CNN, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah, CNN isn't run by the government. Trump hates CNN. Yeah, it does. CNN yeah, yeah CNN isn't run by the government Trump hate CNN Yeah, it does hey, hey can't stand it You you think that's good news though you like CNN I like CNN. Yeah, I don't watch a lot of it I don't if I see something about UFOs on CNN I'm gonna pay attention if I see something about UFOs on Fox News I'm gonna pay attention. If I see something about UFOs on Fox News, I'm gonna laugh. I gotcha. More of a CNN guy, George, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Or NPR? Is that a government agency? Which one? NPR? National Party? No, it's public radio so it's it's not government pbs um i think pbs is subsidized by the government but i don't think it's run by it i like it i don't believe so yeah it's got some good stuff
Starting point is 00:45:38 mp.r. is good. i like mp.r. they got a lot of good shows that's a good place to get information. I'd say When I get my news in the morning I I ask Alexa and I just say Alexa Tell me the news and she usually reads off MPR for some reason I mean, it's not something I selected, but it's just what she picks MPR is great. Yeah, it is good. It is good. All right, let's finish up with the Jack Car podcast. My favorite of the week 1467 fascinating. Jack car is a former Navy SEAL. Very smart guy. Wrote a book called Savage Sun. So it's like a fiction, but based on a lot of kind of the action and things that he saw when he was
Starting point is 00:46:27 like active military. And Joe loved it. Joe loved the book. He was raving about it. I guess he didn't read it. He listened to it on audio, the audio. But yeah, Jack always wanted to be an author. He said he's ever since, even before he got into the seals,
Starting point is 00:46:43 he wanted to be an author. He always planned on writing a book and you know kind of kept that mindset all through the military. So you know that's how he would kind of see things and take notes and think about putting these stories together. And when he got out and he retired he wrote some books. I think he's up to maybe his fourth book now. I don't remember exactly, but he gave himself, he's a very disciplined guy, he gave himself a hell of a deadline of one year. And he said, in one year's time, I have my book done, and I think it became a New York Times bestseller. So pretty bad ass. If you're into Navy SEAL stories and those sorts of things,
Starting point is 00:47:29 you should definitely check that book out. What did you think about Jack, George? Is he married? I think so. Yeah, he's got kids. Wow. So he made the kids after he came out of from the SEALs? I don't know. I don't think he said I Don't remember him saying no, I don't think so. I would like to know that man
Starting point is 00:47:51 Because for a guy to have so much power It must be the training that he's got in a seals when he got out he put himself he said one year I give myself one year to write this book is started writing it, but not before getting a connection in the publishing industry. That's right. Yeah. It's he kind of figured it out as he went along because even when he had his book written and they said they like it, the publishing agent, I think, said, you need to get an agent.
Starting point is 00:48:31 So the publishing company said you need to get an agent, lined up agents for him. And it's kind of interesting hearing that process. He was really figuring it out as he went along. And there's quite a lot to it. Especially because you have to send all of his writing off to the Department of Defense, so they could, what's the word, edit or choose what things they redact, you know, restrictions on the information because some stuff's classified, right right when it comes to these stories
Starting point is 00:49:07 so they can't print everything right and the regiment acting like an amelitary so can you imagine he wakes up in the morning does some exercise or whatever then he says now I'm gonna write and he has a whole list like creating the character. Like I know at least about the process of writing. It's not an easy process. It is so complicated.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Because you have to be schizo and your brain can go in so many directions. Because in the whole book, the story has to comprise all the characters and their behaviors combined with the actions of the characters that form this big story. And if you have details that they don't matter or these people, everything they do, everything you write in there has to make sense. Like the story would be a chain and every little element would be one piece of that chain. And one of those pieces is broken.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Then your book, in that particular portion of the book, is not going to make sense. You Jack talked a lot about that process and the character development and finding out the place for the character as it went and how they would act. I mean, it sounds like an unbelievably arduous process to put a good book together. I mean, obviously you've got to have a talent for writing, but for storytelling too and creating the story it's
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's it's it's really was quite amazing listening to his process and he's definitely put a ton of work into it I can't imagine how much time he's had to put into it Last year I visited Romania and I got a contract from a filmmaker. He was old, he's like 10 years old, like that means, like in his 50s and he was a professor at my university. So I said bro, I want to write some Romanian scripts and shoot some Romanian movies. And so, oh yeah, I got excited. I said Netflix Romania, Netflix is here, Netflix is expanding all over the world as well as Amazon
Starting point is 00:51:28 Prime video and all these people who whatever the air HBO And they are expanding they are taking territories. So they're gonna make Romanian films and Romanian TV shows and For other countries Italian French they already started that and Make them to pop up on their Netflix feeds in France more than in America if you make sense Just to get the market the international streaming market So the guy got excited and he gave me 500 bucks to start writing a feature-length motion picture
Starting point is 00:52:03 I started writing I finished the whole structure everything, all the actions and the characters, the description and everything. Everything, what they do, everything is perfect. This film, right? I wrote, I have the first 45 pages and the structure to the end of the film so we can see look almost done. He had to give me another 700 dollars so we can finish the project. Right. I never heard first of all from him again for months and now lately say hey George what's up and then I brought it up I said hey bro I sent
Starting point is 00:52:45 him a message I'm gonna call him actually hey man this is not about the 500 euro I got from you but you know the pain of writing this thing because I don't care about the money this money is nothing to me compared with we said we're gonna write this we're gonna shoot it this and that and it didn't become reality Maybe it's a piece of shit everything I wrote but to me as a creator because that's the conversation that we're having right now It seems like I gave something out and it's nothing came back to me. It didn't become a picture It didn't become from the brain from from the thought, to the paper, and to the screen. It didn't happen the screen. Did it? How long did it take you to write that? Those 45 pages. Four months. Four months. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Huh. Wow. Is that the first time you've written a movie I? Road many before I told you Adam I directed 14 feature-length motion pictures I wrote the first one two three four scripts. I wrote them then the next some of them I shot some of them are shot, some of them were adapted. I shot them adapted from old screenplays, from public domain. But most of my films, I wrote them. Ah, I see. Now with Jack Carr's book, he did talk about them turning it
Starting point is 00:54:20 into a movie, right? Was it Amazon or Netflix, Paul? I can't remember. I think it was Amazon they're gonna do like a I think a ten-part mini series with it and Chris Pratt's gonna play it which I thought is badass I'm not sure if you're Amazon was it I don't remember which streaming service I mean he may not have, I think he said that he can't say and I told Joe in private but just the fact that Chris Pratt's gonna do it is gonna make that movie really
Starting point is 00:54:51 good, I think. Did you watch extraction? The new movie on Netflix? No, what is surprising to me, what is surprising to me, is he a first time author? I missed that. No, he's, this is his his four he's done four books I think okay so he's got experience no one yeah he's done four of these so I think it's a series as well and I think Joe maybe read the third one so he kind of read him out of order but still good I don't think it made a difference but being able to nail Chris Pratt for the movie is a big deal because I mean Chris Pratt is a huge actor right now a-list and he's I think he you know he does action well he really does it well. I was saying
Starting point is 00:55:42 that did you watch extraction on Netflix, the new Chris Hemsworth movie that's like crushing the numbers like it's done unbelievably well. It's pretty good. I mean it's really all action. There's not a huge amount of like plot development but the action's good and Chris Hemsworth is pretty badass and it's a good movie. You should definitely check that one out if you get time. When you say action and you say Chris Pratt, combine with these seals, dude, I'm thinking or writing this book in this series that he did, he has to come from a guy like him, like an action movie. Like a real action film.
Starting point is 00:56:22 From a guy who has been in a series who can see the reality. He can like you stand in front of him and you're gonna say something. He's gonna say bro, I got you. You know what I mean? Yeah, when he talks about that. He talks about that. It's all based on his personal experiences. That's what makes this so real. And I think that's why people are really connecting to the book because they know it comes from a place of authenticity. Like this guy has real experience. He's been there, he's seen it, he's done it, and now he's telling, you know, a fictional story, but it's, but it's
Starting point is 00:56:59 as real as it could be with the details. And I think that's super compelling. I like that a lot. Sorry I interrupt you. Go ahead finish up, because you wasn't... No, I said that's why I think that this was my favorite podcast of the week just because you know this kind of expertise that he's bringing to this book and I mean he's not just a writer that's good. I mean he was a seal that did it. And that's amazing combination. Like, how lucky is that for him to have been so good
Starting point is 00:57:31 at doing both of those things? And then bringing that story to life. It's very fascinating. I hope they get this guy on again. I really am a fan of this, dude. And I'm definitely gonna have to check his book out. A guy that studied in a militaristic style, the process of writing, from... Refreshed my memory, he mentioned all writing Stephen King, how to write a book, plus many other names, including one main author I miss it right now, who has some structure rules on how to build a story and how to do it.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah. I can't remember who that was either. They did, I think Tom Clancy they talked about as well. They mentioned his books. I think they're kind of similar. I'm not super familiar with it, but anyway, it was a great podcast. I'm a big fan, like I said, that was my top pick. And that's it. That really wraps it up for the week. So anything else you want to add? Not much, man. I hope next time I know I'm going to listen to this week. So anything else you want to add? Not much man, I hope next time I know I'm going to listen to this back and I said, Jog you did it again. You sound like an asshole.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Dude you did find a worry about it. You are amazing. Thank you so much for having me again on a podcast. Hey good to have you on brother and thanks for everybody listening. We appreciate it and we have a new one for you next week. Cheers guys, see you. way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's walking dead.

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