Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Joe Rogan Experience Review of Lex Fridman et al.

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

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Podcast you're listening to the Joe Rogan experience review What a bizarre thing we've created now with your hosts Adam Thorn One go draw the show hello and welcome guys again to another J.R.E. review We got a new logo coming so expect that to change, you know, don't freak out. It's just a logo and Joined this week as I was last week by my new buddy George. How you doing George? I'm doing good man. I put them away for the show great and George you had some good news this week because of a Joe Rogan podcast with your cash app You want to talk about that? of a Joe Rogan podcast with your cash app. You want to talk about that?

Yes. I did one hundred dollars on cash app with cash up experience. So all I had to do is just send an Instagram and a tweet. But I'm not really sure which one got me the hundred dollars the tweet or the Instagram. I'm not. That's still a mystery ah but yeah I remember Joe talking about this and so that's cool you did that I want a hundred bucks I wonder who else wants some money yeah man that's that's awesome well good good job George see it pays off to listen to Joe Rogan man but that's where I found something very nice about your character. Because I know Adam is very short on words outside of this podcast. I try to have a conversation with him.

I say, hey, Adam, what's up? No, it didn't really respond. So that's cool. That's great, man. So what I learned is that because I proposed I said, man, you know how Joe advertised the cash app for Justin Ren who helps the pigmies in the fight for the forgotten. Which country? Fight for the forgotten. It's organizations called Fight for the forgotten and he builds wells for the pigmies

Yeah, it gives them water and he got malaria on On the trip there right when he was building the way. Yeah, I guess he went there to dig it Yep, that's right. Yeah, yeah, he had a tough time. That was a crazy podcast But anyway, there's gonna be a cash account. So I said hey, why not promote on the podcast You're cash up. I mean you have a cash up. So what's your cash up? That yeah, I'll put it I'll put the link in the description So if anyone doesn't have it wants to but to be honest honestly just do it through Joe So that you get $5 goes to Justin Ren I think that's awesome yeah I want to help the pigments but you know

what it is in the end of the day this podcast that you're doing it cost you how much a month on nothing nothing's cheap I know yeah but still it's a cost you know so if you if you feel like hey man look someone send me five dollars on cash app or to support the show the Joe Rogan Experience review. That's a good point. All right I'll put I'll put my one in there and if anyone wants to give me five bucks that's fine but you don't have. It's not about the 20 dude. I'll give you 20 bucks. It's about the 20 bucks It's about the feelings. Wow someone actually wow, this is amazing. You know Yeah, well a lot of people a lot of people So that's enough for me. That's all right I'm just happy people know the new logo Joe Morgan universe is this the new name of the show?

Oh, maybe I don't know with I'm still working on it. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about it later. But for now, let's talk about the podcast for last week. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah, sure. It's good. So we got some good ones. Dan Crenshaw was on Lex Friedman. Always interesting, super smart nerd. Michael Schermer, smart guy, skeptic, great. And then good old Brendan Sharp to finish the week off. So let's dive right in. Podcast 1454, Dan Crenshaw. Dan Crenshaw is a congressman, he's a Republican guy. Or is he a senator? What is he?

Congressman or a senator, I can't remember. Anyway, former Navy CEO, he's a bad ass. I'm not sure what... He's bad badass. I'm not sure what he's badass for sure and Yeah, they they started off really talking about the lockdown, you know the quarantine lockdown and How it's affecting people and how the hell to get out of it What will your what will your feelings with this podcast George? Did you feel like Dan had a lot of answers? Did he like calm any concerns that you had

how old is Dan is like 36 probably yeah he's about my age something to this guy has been through a lot I mean I cannot even I've been through a lot of stuff too but this guy he's been like a navy SEAL I mean at 36 I'm 42 so I can even but then I was listening to him because I was ready I was ready with with the eye so he's got the eye right yeah he lost his eye as a patch looks pretty sweet there's nothing more to say. I'm ready to lay down in a puncture and gonna listen out to that crash or take some lifeless. Yeah, yeah. And when he starts talking about right and when he starts talking about with the guns and

oh my god he's like a Republican like like kind of like a Tea Party type and I don't have any problem with anybody like that because I think Joe needs these types on the show as well because you can have only Bernie Sanders it did well Bernie Sanders I you know, to up like 10 million views, something like that. Amazing. But you need the diagram, sure, sometimes, an arm with a guy. But I can't listen to what he says to some more ridiculous things. And you can go through them. Probably you remember.

Yeah, I mean, he's, well, he's Republican for one. And Joe has his friends on. The guy is his friend, and he is a is a smart duty is a different opinion and obviously more liberal people But it this is it's good to have a balance like you want to have all different people on and Yeah, I mean you can tell you is a military guy so he kind of Positioned the idea of the quarantine and the virus talked about us being on a retreat right now as we hide in our homes away from the virus as we try to figure out what it is and then eventually we come on the offensive

you know we make vaccines and we we get back to normal life so i kind of like the way that he discuss those things um and kind of put it in that militaryistic thought process. Is that a word? No, it's a rustic. There we go. Because it's a good way to think about it right now. I mean, you know, we're not a war, but there's been some massive changes.

And it's quite a refreshing way to think about it for sure, I think. I didn't have any problem with that part of the conversation. So, so what, what, what, what was your concern? What did you not like about him then? Like multiple, multiple. I just can't remember because you told me last time, George don't take notes for the show anymore because there's no point. Hey, that's all right. So you remember I remember a lot of you. I can tell you

of the bad. It was one with a medical thing. The guy doesn't believe in Medicare at all. Yeah, he didn't really like, he doesn't like universal healthcare. He thinks that's he thinks that's gonna be too socialist. Though his definition on socialism was getting really confusing for me because he was saying the fire department is not like a social program, but I don't even think Joe understood really what he was saying. I mean, it seems like it is. Everyone gets the fire department. Because you see, if Joe would have pushed it further than that, every time he was bringing him okay, he was comparing him the fire department and other services,

other services, if you want to call them socialists. And when the guy was okay, it was the difference. And he wasn't able to articulate an answer. He was just changing the subject. And then if Joe would push it more, then he would lose him as a friend. Because the guy came on a show, can be so disrespectful. Even though it's over the Skype now with the Corona virus,

I wouldn't mind Joe to be a little bit disrespectful. Just tell me, bro, Dan, just just tell me what's the difference between the necessity of healthy society and the necessity of make sure you house doesn't freaking burn to that ashes yeah it was it was not well um the fine by him because I don't know I didn't leave Not well Defined by him because I don't know. I didn't leave with a better understanding of what socialism is I didn't really get it and then they kind of changed the subject and moved on and Yeah, I really get it and the same with the health care so I kind of feel safe for the guy

That's okay. I mean he has a political Kind of agenda that he has to push obviously he needs votes and all the rest of it. And maybe there is. Maybe it's just a bit of a breakdown. Like maybe they don't really have a good definition of what that is. I mean, it's almost like he wanted to defend the idea of a fire department being good and we should have it and it should be paid for yet he didn't want to call it a social thing or socialism in any way because it kind of makes a social program look good and he didn't want any good examples of social programs though it clearly is right I mean it is it's a program that works of course now George tell me in your country to police what kind of social

programs do you guys have that America doesn't you guys have universal health care there? Oh, yes, good, and how does it work is it good? And sorry, but what country are you from again? I should remember but I probably the problem is Romania. That's it It works it works the best It works the best you can. So from the state budget, there is a percentage that goes to healthcare. That's it, the end of the story. How those money are being managed, that's part of the management. And sometimes in the politics, it doesn't mix well with management.

You have idiots most of the time, and not that most of the time in this country is Eastern countries that they come after the communist bloc. Even after 20 years, they are still unable, the idiots at the power, they are still unable to hire proper Scientists and educated people to run the country. Yeah, I got it. Well, that's the same everywhere So what are your personal money management? What are your personal experiences with healthcare that when you've got to go in for a sickness or an illness? Were you happy with how it works? First of all of course, I'm happy because if I get sick, I just go to the hospital.

That's it. End of the story. They're going to take care of me. Here in America, I'm right now in Los Angeles, something happened to me tomorrow. I will have to pay or have insurance. Without insurance here, you're terminated. I don't know about your status, but I have to have insurance here you're a techman either. I don't know about your status but I have to have insurance here without insurance. Of course.

Nobody's gonna. It is more complicated here. I mean I'm from England and it was never an issue. I went to the hospital for different things. I've had surgery. I got cut badly above my eye when I was younger and they just fix it right up. Surgeon came in and, you know, like a plastic surgery. I can't wait to take care of it. What happened to your eye?

What? What happened to your eye? Yeah, you used to work in a nightclub, working security and somebody hit me in the face with a bottle, split my eye open. It's real bad. Fuck! Yeah, it was brutal. Why?

Well, you know, just drunk and aggressive and I was throwing them out of the bar. Um, his cousin, like, uh, went to attack me, like, punched me. So... Like, this was happening in a British bar? Yeah, in a club. Yeah. What, in which city? In, uh, a town called Stroud, where I grew up.

So it's quite a small town. So this is kind of like a guy, the guy I was having a British accent, the guy who punched you. Yeah, all English people, George. He was in England. And it was a long conversation, or look, I've been in like this,

because I've been a very weak guy just all the time, like trying not to get beat up by these guys, you know, like these big guys. So I know how it is but and I know how it is some guys they just come you don't expect and they're just gonna punch you fast and some others you can see the development they say okay this I'm gonna this guy is gonna is gonna hit me or is gonna do something yeah and then on those Okay, okay, I just you have the time to kind of like you know Split it. Yeah, well I was working so I was working I wasn't drinking and he had an altercation with me In the front of the club

So I had one of the other door guys escort him out. I said this guy needs the leave and it's sometimes is best to pull yourself away from the situation. So I pulled myself away. He was supposed to have been kicked out. I carried on doing my rounds like I was walking the club and I got to the back stairway and I was walking up the stairs and there was a divider in the middle so that the traffic goes one way or the other. And coming down the other side was this same guy with two of his friends. And they were coming to look for me to have a confrontation, but they should have been kicked out. So I get to the top of the stairs, they meet me back at the top. No one was around, no other security was there.

And I was trying to figure out why the hell they were still in the club. And that's when the guy had the altercation with through a punch at me. And I was able, he was a lot shorter than me, so he couldn't reach as far. And I was able to hit him back because I'm working security. So I was allowed to defend myself, at least. But what I didn't realize after I hit him was he had friends with him and the one guy stood next to me was still had his drink in his hand. It was like a bottle of something but light or whatever. No disrespect for the but light. It wasn't the company's fault, obviously, but they make some hard ass bottles and it smashed me in the face and it cut my

face. Yeah, it was brutal. It was brutal. But anyway, my point is, I went to the hospital. They took care of everything. They stitched me up. They fixed the eye. It doesn't look bad. It was a bad cup. They did a good job.

And yeah, I didn't have to pay anything for it. And the experience is I've had in the US, even though healthcare here is very advanced. It's great technology. It's always been very expensive for what seems like very minor things, you know, I cut my finger once real bad when I lived in Ohio and I needed to go to the hospital and get stitches and get it kind of put together. And it doesn't quite bend right the same because I cut some ligaments, so it was pretty bad. And it was a mess. I had to wait

forever filling out forms. I didn't have insurance so the people I was working with, the working for paid for it. It cost them thousands of dollars. And they barely did anything to fix my finger. There was no follow up. I don't know. I mean, it's not the worst experiences, but they haven't been great. So. I've been there. I've been there. And my reaction was, you know, what's this for what? Paying you for what?

And then I just avoided them. And the only thing that I have learned in the beginning, it goes on your credit. And it takes a while to get off You know, yeah, I mean that's not cool right like in England It doesn't matter what happens to your health One you never pay for anything and two it could never ruin your credit So there's there just seems to be some real issues of that. I think

America would do a lot better if they had Universal health care. It doesn't mean that we become socialist. I think it would just be a really good thing for people. I mean, you can't really argue that. Why not? Like, let's find a way. Let's get our smiles and... Well, I can tell you the argument. It's a little bit cruel, but I think that the fact that in America you have a flux of immigration all the time from the beginning of this country, the formation of this United States. They will keep coming to the smartest people from all over the world, they will find

gold, whatever the hell, build something, do something. I mean, this is a very young country and look how much development it happened in the United States, right? So it's kind of like a jungle book economy where you come in, you work your ass off, but when you're done, you know, you better have some savings, bro, because if not, you're going to be homeless, basically. Right? Yeah, yeah. So, but, you know, there's a lot of good shit here. We both live here, so we obviously like America.

And there are other advantages, but that is one thing, I think, we could change a little bit. I think that would be change a little bit. I think that would be probably a smart move. And it just seems a shame that it's a very political issue. I wish it wasn't. I wish it was just something to take it off everyone. Yeah, I mean, if it's a question of like, it's too expensive, that's one thing. But I think if we, it would be nice if everybody just...

On both sides of the aisle kind of work together to be like, Alright, well look, some of us are saying it's too expensive. Some of us are saying that we can do it. Let's figure out how we can. But the idea that some people like it should never be... Paid for by the government. So that everyone gets it. It just...

It seems odd that we think that way here to me But what the fuck why I don't know Shoot up exactly. I mean what we know what I know is a club. How big the club is we can be as big as the Us just two of us. He can be as big as the country. You know what I mean exactly just two of us it can be as big as the country you know what I mean exactly imagine if everyone would just come to America let's go yeah okay come everyone no they're still gonna be borders they're gonna be who are you you're not gonna come you know what I mean not it's I'm an immigrant I came to America so I know how hard it is to come to here.

Yeah, and to maintain yourself in this kind of stuff for sure. What did you think about when Dan was talking about the expense of the lockdown, talking about expensive things? He mentioned that there's another cost and it's not just a health cost. You know, people aren't working, right? So it's almost like a public health issue in itself. It's like there's no work, there's no regular surgeries for people that need regular medical care, non-coronor related, because all the hospitals are like ready for corona stuff. And then in a way there's like no economy. The

economy is collapsing. You know, they talk about maybe 50% of small businesses going bankrupt because of this. I mean, the cost of not staying open seemed to be a pretty legitimate concern. You know, obviously you want to be safe. We don't want everybody to get this thing and die. But at the same time, you know, what is left? We get out of the other end and nobody even has any jobs. I think unemployment, they said, is it like 10% right now? you know, what is left? Wait, we get out of the other end and nobody even has any jobs. I think unemployment, they said,

is it like 10% right now? It's very strange times, dude. It's, it's, it's, yeah. So he had some good points on his podcast. The, the socialism one didn't work with, I didn't really get his definition of it. I wish I understood it better. I didn't get that.

And then the healthcare one, I wasn't, it wasn't making sense to me But some of the economy stuff he was talking about was was you know kind of resonated I thought it was a good podcast for that reason It was great Yeah, what can I say well moving on we got we got Lex I wouldn't I wouldn't say oh my god I wouldn't want it that but I would rather have a different guest if you want me to be a producer right now Okay, who I'm gonna have Mel Gibson again. I mean we have Mel Gibson once

That was an amazing show, bro, and did you see Joe? I mean, I don't want to get into the male Gibson episode I'm sorry about that but did you see Joe how he was okay okay Mel he was just talking about his father and the DNA what was that the stem cell yeah yeah my god that was a fucking like a movie episode like if you that you can cut it to a movie if you want soundtrack and we shoot a couple other scenes with Joe that's a movie to it with him and Mel Gibson. Yeah that was a big yes. That was a big guess though though Mel Gibson kept clicking a pen if you remember and it was super annoying

you could hear him like clicking this pen the whole time. Yeah yeah yeah well nobody can you cannot stop Mel Gibson because the nail Gibson can get really, really, really upset. Do you remember the scandal with his wife, or Oksana? Yep. I mean, people can Google it up. Mel Gibson and Oksana, Oksana recorded Mel Gibson on the phone. Yeah, yeah, it was a bad one.

I would have told him to shut up. I would have said, hey, stop clicking that pen, bro. It's getting on my nerves. But. No, man, that's Mel Gibson, dude. That's top five directors in the United States, right? In the world, right now. All right, well, we'll let him off.

We'll let him off. Let's move on to the Lex, the Lex Friedman podcast. 1455, I love Lex. I think he's great. He's getting better every time he gets on the podcast. He's a silly chap but a very smart guy. He's an MIT scientist. That works with an artificial intelligence. So real smart. Last time he was on, he did a poem in Russian, which was was cool and this time he did a song played an instrument which I thought was quite brave of them so good good job there and yeah he came on with a little message about wearing masks and

why it's important I mean you know you're noticing everyone's wearing masks masks everywhere do you have a good mask, George? I don't. You should get. I mean, I do have the medical mask. And I have one in my pocket just in case, but I don't wear it. Because it's just like dirty and just putting that dirty thing on my face. I don't have to do it right now. A mask a day like I would want. I got. And probably I would use three masks a day Okay, why can't you use them for multiple days?

No, no definitely not multiple days. Oh, okay. I keep using my I keep my my same mask. Are you all right? You don't have the coronavirus to you George I keep my mind on my same mask. Are you alright? You don't have the coronavirus, do you, George? No, that's just weed. I promise. And I'm gonna cut All right in anything I'm gonna lower it up. Oh You're gonna lower your coughing sound don't worry about that nobody gives a shit. It's just coughing. Yeah, it's all right It's all right. So they they did talk about they talked about, yeah, they talked about Wuhan, the virus, not being a bioweapon. So, so that was kind of interesting. Like, I guess it can't be a bioweapon, but they do have like a bioweapon facility out there

in Wuhan, which is really disturbing. I don really disturbing why the fuck you even have one of those I don't know I think that's a bad idea it is strange that's what came out from the conversation to have the virus starting nearby that facility yeah it's quite strange it can can happen, you know, the guy I mean the patient zero the guy said it was a lady and this lady she was selling some other stuff that she had the thing by a guy who was selling bats near her near her and the guy was chopping her beds there the wings and

Taking the guts out and somehow this lady. I'm not sure what she was selling She got in contact with the liquid from the bath from the guy next to her and That's That's how she She's not giving it away. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's what that happened.

That's fucked up. Don't eat bats. I mean, I thought people already knew this, but maybe not. Maybe bats are delicious. I never tried one. No, this is disgusting. I watch on Discovery. I watch a video on YouTube. They carry a library of viruses in them.

And they are immune to everything, all these viruses. They don't give a fuck. They're just bats. These viruses don done effect them. So for you to eat bats, you gotta be in a situation of you leave or you die, right? In some cave, and you still have the lighter, you can make a fire, you can burn something, and the only thing that you can eat until they break down

so they let you out of the cave is bats. And then you catch a couple of those motherfuckers but you build them man and you fry them like really really really good okay. I am a cook I know how to cook that's how I will cook a bat I would fry it to the to death like I would fry it until it would be it would be the first stomach and my second stomach is just going to be basically the protein. It's going to be the left over. Oh, I gotcha. That's it. You know, the cooking on YouTube of bats, if you search recipe bats, it shows you how they sell it in a market and how the guy is taking a home and cooks it. Very

little fire, not so much. I didn't like it man. I didn't like the way they cook it. That saying, okay, I have to eat bats. But you don't have to eat bats man. It's rice, it's something. It's something else. Yeah. Well maybe that's where the like myth of the vampire came from just a scare people away from eating bats Dude that's funny you mentioned it because I was about to shoot a vampire series and Now I was talking to another producer and saying bro. This is amazing. It matches with the with this coronavirus and everything you just have to we have to shoot a TV show still shoot it but shoot it from distance like everybody's talking from distance but there still some kind of vampires inside of some kind of story but that's the that was the end of the conversation because I know man I cannot afford to travel, like, I'm not, I'm a fuck. But yeah, it's horrible, dude.

It's, it is like a virus. Pretty sure. Well, what Lex was saying that because of all this, it might be like a year before we open up. And that's crazy to think that like people, people in like the bar industry and restaurant industry wouldn't, maybe won't work the entire year, an entire year of not working because there's no job.

Like that, that seems crazy. I'm sorry, I detored the conversation. So legs were saying that? Yeah, he said it might be a year before it all opens up. And okay, so what's happening with the economy with doing this year? Who knows? I mean, not very good stuff.

Right? Okay, so people gotta start running out of money. Who knows I mean not very good stuff All right Okay, so people gonna start running out of money. Oh, yeah Joe We're not gonna talk about today about the Dylan show, right? No, this is this is just last week. We're not gonna cover that. That's all right We'll get yeah, don't worry Joe seems more and more Because I was just listening to the show now. But that's repeated on other show, background shows, from Joe Rogan Universe, where he's like kind of like itchy for some kind of end of the world apocalypse thing

to happen. As you very well know Joe Rogan in 2012, he really thought that it's gonna be the Inca and South American Empire, somehow coming out from the ground and cover everyone with that plant, this or something. I don't think he really believe that but he was unsure i don't he definitely doesn't want the end of the world or the apocalypse but he'd like things about it plans

you know it he knows that nothing is forever and it's possible that really crazy shit can come out of this i mean they discussed for a while by then joe by then as the debt but the democratic uh... nominee and jo Joe has a real issue with this and he thinks the guy has dementia and he's very concerned and I don't think Joe is like a big Trump fan but he definitely isn't going to want to vote for somebody that he feels like has dementia and Joe Biden does seem to struggle, you know, verbalizing

things. I mean, I've done, I've done hundreds of hours of podcasting, and I'm not a professional speaker or podcaster, and you probably couldn't chop up sound but up bites from all those hours of me doing podcasts that would make me sound as ridiculous as Joe Biden does on a regular day. Like he just cannot articulate himself at all a lot of the time. It's a real mess. I'm like, how the hell are you going to do presidential speeches? He's just going to mumble through everything and forget what he's saying. It's a concern, man. I'm like they I feel like the Democrats Really needed to have got somebody better to go up against Trump I mean he's get Biden's gonna get bullied like fuck

It's tough the guy has to be yeah, it's tough to find someone I'm sure they exist It has to be a character if If you would be Joe Biden, all these guys that they say something like this about him, like Joe, for example, or I would come and bring Joe in a YouTube video with the guy with Joe Biden. And Joe Joe sit down with me tell me man. What's You say about me that I'm I'm Sinai right let's do a test on your show I come on your show and you have a Sinai test and we bring the doctors and artists and we're gonna do a show We're gonna do a Sinai show. Yeah, he'd never do that though. Because he's probably...

Exactly. But if he would do that, he would win the election. Maybe. I mean, he's still got a sound good. He's still got to be at a speak, whether he's technically seen or not. I mean, he can't be mumbling his way through things and forgetting everything.

He won't be able to make his points. Yeah, that's the problem that is maybe true. Yeah. Even though Joe is a little bit tough on him, and it's amazing with his audience that he just takes the game, because sometimes you gotta hit a weak person in order to make your show even bigger, and it's a tough decision. Say, man. I'm just gonna keep hitting this guy But there is something between Joe and Joe Either because they they have the even the same name

He said he's has the same name like me Joe and he's not you know, I mean that's what I'm gonna be when I'm gonna be old It wants to give him a lesson or something. What do you think? Joe Biden and Joe Rowe. No, I think that Joe just, he's not picking on him. He's just saying what he sees. He's like, this guy clearly has some sort of dementia. Like, he's slowing down. He's not making sense. He mumbles a lot.

He forgets what he's talking about. And then we want to give him the most important job, maybe in the world, or at least in this country, that is maybe not a good move. I don't think it's anything personal. He's just like, that's just not a smart move. I mean, it doesn't almost matter how nice or good a person is. If they're kind of losing their mind,

you shouldn't give him a job that's too important. It's simple as that. That's what I think he's saying. I'm with you. I think I'm with him too. I mean, it makes sense. It's a mistake. Trump plays the same game.

I don't know if he listens to Joe Rogan or he's just the same type of character. He always goes about Joe Biden as he is not in charge of whatever he does, he is like a puppet, he doesn't know what he is doing anyway, he is a nice guy, Joe is a nice guy, but he doesn't know what he is doing, he is seen out, so he can go as rough as Joe Rogan to say Joe Biden is he forgets every two minutes whatever he did five minutes ago. So he can be president. Yeah, it's reasonable. So then and then when he sees him he says hey Joe how are you doing buddy and he treats him like a handicapped guy. How are you do you okay?

Yeah, you okay now you? You're okay now? You're okay, do you remember? Yeah, I mean that- You're not for the election? I mean that's just gonna be funniest for you. The debates are gonna be great. They're gonna be- The next elections?

And for sure. They're gonna be entertaining. What do you think of Lex's song? His guitar song. Oh my God, this very is this the only stunt that he did on a show. Yeah he played a song like it was like about coming together and love and he just it was very long you just played a little bit of music. You think that's a good touch or you should forget about it.

When you're a scientist and I guess scientists are people too. So yeah, that's his human side, Lexi's human side, which... Yeah, yeah, he doesn't have like an image. It just goes on a podcast, like we have an a podcast now. So it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was all right. I think it's a good touch. He's pretty talented guy.

I like to hear it, but anyway, Alex is always good and he had... But then he talks about, I'm listening to him about AI and about, okay man, what's gonna happen, what's gonna start, some gonna buy with cash up today, okay? Because Joe Rogan gave me the cash up, okay. His Bitcoin gonna be there.

And I can't believe this guy when he talks about Bitcoin If he's gonna be good or bad in a future. I don't know because the guy is playing guitar on a show I can take this guy seriously with my money, you know what I mean? Fair enough. He resumes to that Fair enough, but he's still good. I like I like when Lex is on excellent. It's pretty yeah It's pretty relaxed and he's always entertaining all right We're let's move on to Michael Shermer and let's blast through these last favorite Michael Shermer 1456 podcast He's the editor of skeptic magazine. He teaches

skepticism at a university. I guess he has a course on it that he's doing online. And you know, a smart guy, I like his insights, I like what he brings to the show, him and Joe are obviously close. And he has, he has an important way of thinking that I think it would be useful if more people adopted. If you had a logical, skeptical mind, then you could figure out that quite a lot of things are bullshit. And I think he's an important guy, for sure. He did the show with Graham Hancock, and the other dude, I forget his name right now.

Yeah, Randall Carlson. I watched it. Randall. Yeah Randall calls. I watched it Randall. I love Randall. I Watched that show three times dude. At least. Yeah, it was excellent. Long. All of it. It was excellent. I think it's better to bring my Michelin on his own though. I think those When they're going at kind of at each other, it's kind of a lot of work. It's a little, I felt that even though it was an important discussion, it was, it got pretty defensive and a little kind of aggressive at points and I didn't care too much for that.

But I felt like it was an important discussion. Which part? Well, Graham Hancock was getting very defensive about things the Michael had said to him in the past and he wanted to He wanted to have his chance to yeah, so they were they kind of It was a lot of arguing and instead of discussing and I would prefer Them to discuss though though Joe did a pretty good job of mediating it. It was it was just not an easy situation. It was quite heavy Okay, so you're talking about the old show. Let's get back to the new show. Yeah, that that old show. That's a classic I recommend we recommend to everyone. I mean we should do a podcast dude

Maybe tomorrow or whatever When I come for more come free so we just go on the air and we do another podcast if you want we listen again just to that and we do a flashback maybe we just do one maybe maybe we can I'll see I'll save time I mean that one you have material because that's infinite that's forget about if I listen one more time to I mean remember Mr. Sherman how you were sitting in a corner with Randall and everybody was quiet in a beginning and they were kind of confrontational in the beginning and then

this time they come down and that's amazing do you have a flashback series on Europocket? I've done some before. I've done some. The other guys that do the Joe Rogan experience, they do what do they call it? This won't hold up, which is like flashbacks to old podcasts. I usually save those for like weeks when Joe goes hunting or when there's no podcast.

There's no point doing them when he has. Those those guys they did it first or you did it first I think that I did the first ones like that yeah but I didn't do many they do they do a good they do it consistently so they've adopted that in a pretty solid way and I don't have a lot of time for that though I mean it's it's fun those guys are not bad because you told me about them, and I had to listen. I said, no, let me see. If they copied your part, then they did another part.

No, we just did different things, but we don't. I mean, they didn't get inspired. That's fine. Don't talk about that. They're doing a great job. Oh, you're sensitive subject. No, because I really, I think, peace is the way. You know what I mean?

I'm not saying anything negative. I think the guys are great and they do a great job because I actually listen to about three podcasts of them. Good. Okay. All right. Let's get back to Michael Schoen's stuff. Yeah, Michael. So he said things are going to change, right? This is what I felt was really interesting and the most important parts about his podcast He's saying they won't go back to the way they were which is kind of interesting So what does that mean? He was saying no more kind of shaking hands, you know Maybe that sort of thing is kind of gone forever people won't shake hands people maybe are not gonna hug You know unless it's like a close friend or a close family member thing is kind of gone forever. People won't shake hands. People maybe are not going to hug,

you know, unless it's like a close friend or a close family member. I mean, it could change those things. I don't know if it will get like that. I think we'll find a balance, but that to me is strange that even consider. To me, that's an opportunity. I'm not the fan of shaking hands anyway. This is like, where am I going to shake hands ever again now? What did you think of when he was talking about Germany and South Korea doing very well handling the coronavirus? They've had pretty low numbers.

They've kind of curved their results already. You know, they've got good health care. They kind of jumped on it quickly. Why do you think those countries were able to do that? I think they had that Google system, where they track you on the phone and everyone you get in touch with in proximity by the phone range and by cell towers and everyone. And that's it. You're done.

I mean, you've got to be marked yellow red whatever you show up on a map as infected or potentially infected to be tested that's what they did it and the story yeah in these countries yeah that's good but in America that's a problem I mean they can do it tomorrow but that's a problem, the daily numbers in the US have got really out of control, really out of control. There was like 1200 deaths today. I mean, the US is so far ahead in cases and deaths and it's pretty horrifying. I feel terrible for all the people getting infected, mostly out of New York and New Jersey. It's like, it was guys. Because they live on top top of each other bro. Yeah, that's all for poor bastards Yeah, hopefully that fucking slows down soon because living there must be an absolute nightmare and in Michael saying that this virus is gonna

Probably be with us forever It had probably mutate a little bit and every year we're gonna get hit with this somehow So we have to figure out how the hell we're going to deal with this. I mean, terrifying. What we're going to be a vaccine. Hmm. Hmm. They discuss a little more about freedom of speech and the kind of conspiracies that come

with that, you know, online stuff, YouTube, Twitter, shutting people down for things that they're saying and all the rest of it. And, you know, this is kind of like a dialogue that Joe keeps going often because of what he does. He needs freedom of speech to be able to operate on his podcast and it's important. And I'm a big believer of it too. I mean this is why we can say whatever the fuck we want on this. Within reason, I mean we can't incite hate and violence or anything like that. But you know, we can say a lot of stuff. We're not going to get arrested for it.

And, no, you're going to get banned. It's like the Gestapo. Yeah. The Nazis, they use the same thing. I mean, they just come all but is that strange? Someone is gonna listen to Adam Thorne and George Anton podcast. The Joe Rogan experience was the new name of the show is Joe Rogan Universe to listen to oh did you see what they said? Ben. Boom and then you oh

you've been from pod bean or whatever you host this podcast. Yeah. Well, you know, let me tell you something that's actually interesting. So pod bean also hosts this podcast. And for some reason, I've been flagged on there as like, I think inappropriate language or something. I don't know. I mean, it's all, I label this as explicit, like I think inappropriate language or something?

I don't know, I mean, it's all, I label this as explicit like I cuss, but you have to like show that you're 18 or something when you log, when you listen to my podcast through Podbean and it's because some people complained about it. They don't tell me this, but. Why did you cuss? Well, but I, yeah yeah fucking do all the time

I mean it's it's rated explicit. I put it in the you can put that in the No, I didn't I think I I cast once but I was kind of ready So it was my gonna cast for oh, but it doesn't matter who gives a shit And if you get if you get flagged for that then I'm like all right. I was actually the reason I found out is because I was gonna switch over to pod bean But then I thought well now I don't want to do that. I don't want to be Connected you know hosted by someone that does that. I just don't like the idea Like you shouldn't tell people to shit like what did I say? I didn't say anything Like I just thought it is a problem when you overdo it if you overdo it if you say

Fuck it fuck it fuck it too much. That's gonna be a problem. No, no, no, no George, what George is not true. That's not what it is What what it was is someone just complained? People can complain for any reason they want they they flagged my podcast because they just didn't like what it was and And then that's it then you have to look it's they just flagged it is inappropriate fucking Whatever I mean that's all so I mean I don't But that's another thing that I wanted to bring up what's up with all the negative comments on the podcast on when I go on

I What's up with all the negative comments on the podcast? When I go on, I don't know if the comments are universal or they're just on my podcast's iPhone app. Oh, no. Well, I mean, look, the other, the other Rogan guys have the same thing. And I message them sometimes on Instagram because we know we do the same sort of review podcast for Rogan and they joke about it. It's like, it's because we do a podcast about another podcast.

So it's a silly idea. So people are just, you know, people are haters. They're gonna jump on it and get pissed off and I don't blame him. If it annoys you, then just put whatever. Like, that's your opinion. That's freedom of speech too. I'm more unhappy But I do encourage people to like it to put a good review if you do because we don't have many I mean, it's the same both both this podcast and the other Rogan review one

It like they don't we don't have a lot of good reviews Because most people are looking for Joe's podcast which makes sense and they think this is A waste of time and they are probably right so You know man if they don't like it, they shouldn't listen Yeah, that's totally cool and yeah, and if you want to tell other people that it sucks to then yeah just put that review It's all good. I don't worry. I don't worry about that problem. I don't worry about it I did not have a problem with the comments that they can anybody can say anything they want. Like who cares? You're just moving forward

and you just don't look. Yeah, I don't look at that. But what I'm looking at that. Exactly. You know, we move forward because we're here for the people. You're here for the people. That's why you jump on a microphone. You have me as a guest. You have, I mean, you have a lot of things that is going on. Now, you have on your logo, I understand your production is going to happen. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right, George, let's get back to the podcast. Come on, I got a, I got a real you in, brother. Let's, should we, let's finish up with the Brendan Shob one. And because they pretty much covered everything in Michael's one. I mean always a good one to get some knowledge. Brendan Shob of course, MMA fighter,

good friend of Joe, fighter in the kid, you know everyone knows him. I don't even need to introduce him. But yeah, that was, it was light-hearted, relaxing. You know, the MMA ones were always pretty chilled, but generally, if you're not a huge MMA fan, oftentimes those can be kind of skipped, I think. Unless you're a huge fan of whoever the guest is, but it's usually a fighter. They talked about the Epstein having the Bill Clinton painting. I thought it was quite funny.

So Bill Clinton is wearing a dress and I think it's the dress that Monica Lewinsky wore, supposedly, and what a weird thing. Like, what a weird guy. Epstein is very odd, right? There's like creepy dudes. What did you think of that about it Epstein wearing that woman's dress but how do you know there was that dress no no no it was Bill Clinton in the painting what I think I think Jamie said that you listen to the I think I missed

that part dude all right no worries no worries well that that's what it was what's and then they and and then they go on. But what's the connection with Epstein? Epstein on the painting, okay? Correct, correct. And inside the on the painting, he was painted a picture of who, what? Bill Clinton wearing a dress.

Sad on a couch. That's strange. And who was the artist i don't know but uh... so jamey said but that's an important question why i don't know who it is i don't have time to look it up who gives a shit

just a weird it is the weird thing to have like why does he have it like he was friends with bill they used to fly together a lot and he owns this strange painting of him and And Jamie said that I think he thought that it was moniker Lewinsky's dress which makes Makes the painting even more fucked up because that's what Bill Clinton got impeached for Was for fucking around with him. Jamie is great

Dude, I think that kid just is there at the computer, Google stuff, smoke some good weed. And then when he comes up with the conspiracy like this, I mean, that's perfect for the show. Jamie is such a great addition to the Joe Rogan experience. Yeah, he's solid, I like Jamie. He's funny when he laughs. When every laughs is something that Joe says or a guest,

I always find that hilarious. It's very funny. Sometimes he does turn the camera on him a little bit. He had a camera on him and he switches from the... He has a switch to like a computer that he switched the video feeds. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you see him.

He's good, man. I think in a couple of shows he tried, he put the camera, one camera, camera like one white shot all the way on the other side of the Studio where you could see him and the equipment and everything how he sits there at the computer Oh, I don't remember that I'm not sure I Don't think Joe approved that any longer. I had that was for the one show. And then I think Joe cut it out. I said, just cut it. You know face to face.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The only problem that I have only one complaint about the editing with Jamie is he cuts only on the person on the talking head. When the head is talking, Jamie cuts on it. I want to see a little bit of a reaction from Joe and from the guest when one of them has a long. Yeah that could that could be a good thing. Well they you know I think they're they're working on it they change these things up. I mean it be a good thing. Well, I think they're working on it. They change these things up.

I mean, it's a good format though. It's still really entertaining. I like watching the YouTube video of the podcast when I have time. I think it's a really good way to watch the show. I'm glad they do it that way, for sure. Hey, man. That's a good meaning.

You know, for Jamie and for everyone. This is the Joe Rogan universe You show so I have to bring it up whatever Kind of like TMZ. Yeah, no, I got it man. You say whatever you want freedom of speech for me. I'm not Yeah, thank you with the reviews it sucks You know people are free to do whatever. But sometimes when you sell a product, like I have some movies that I made and I put them for sale on Amazon Prime video, and I was making a lot of money people watching the movies. But because of the reviews, like I had some horrible reviews, they took the movies down

dude. I only have, from 14 movies, I only have two movies left playing right now. That they're not even making any much money right now. Yeah, from 14, that was a lot. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, less or less, because of the reviews. Listen, people will look at this podcast and the other review one. And maybe they look at their other reviews and see that they're whatever they are and maybe they choose to listen and maybe they'll be like, well this obviously sucks, I'm not going to listen to it if they think that the reviews are low.

Sorry, I did talk, it doesn't matter, fuck it. Let's just, what was, what was we talking about? Sorry, I did talk to the show again. That's all right, you're doing fine, bro. Brand and Shob. All right, you remember when, they were talking about Anthony Smith Anthony Smith is an MMA fighter I think he still fights in the UFC. He fought at a great fight against John Jones He's a bad motherfucker big guy fights it 205 probably walks around at 2 30. I mean he's a tank and

some guy broke into his house and robbed him. And he got in a fight with him. And he basically beat the shit out of the guy, but he was like, this guy has taken every punch, every hit, every knee, the dude weighed like 170 pounds. I mean, how the hell you can take a beating from a top 100, you know, ranked fighter and and survive it is that guy must have been on something. Some drugs, I would say. It's the adrenaline Mr Adam Thorne.

Yeah, but there's adrenaline in the UFC and this guy knocks people out. He knocks out world-class fighters But it's not the same adrenaline of a Breaken and entrance I get out of here. You're telling me you don't get the same adrenaline in the octagon In the UFC when hundreds of thousands of people are watching you as you would if on the other side is jail hard time jail on the octagon we're gonna it's gonna break your skull you still gonna make it yeah but it doesn't it doesn't make you impervious to punches it doesn't matter how much adrenaline you have, you'll still get knocked out the same way. Dude, I'm not a tough guy. I wouldn't take a small punch from... I'm not...

hug from these guys. Yeah, it didn't make any sense to me. It was very odd. I would like to know more about that story. But anyway, thank God Anthony Smith is okay. The guy was... the guy was... to take anything. He was the end for him. He was caught. The guy came there to steal something, probably, most likely, not to kill anybody or to beat anybody. You see, I'm a filmmaker, dude. So if I have to film something like this,

someone will say, okay, here is $50,000, bro. You, this is the50,000, bro, this is the movie that happened, this is something that happened to me, can you put this in a picture? And then I will have to sit down with the guy and talk about the details. Like there are so many details in this thing that they're just, they're all very detailed with the on a show about how exactly the guy felt when he was caught what was his psychosis at the moment when he was caught based on his behavior as a human as a like who

he is where he lives does he have a family, what was he at the same time yesterday night? Before he was with this MMA now face to face, and the guy is like breaking him and killing him, the blood is jumping out of his fucking head. What's going on here, you know? So then the guy was keeping hitting him, the guy couldn't believe it, that the guy beats keeping hitting him, the guy couldn't believe it, that the guy beat him so much.

And the guy kept beating him until he realized, wow, hold on a second, this is just the guy he came here to steal something. What happened? Oh my god, I just killed the guy and let me oh my god and then he you get into a some kind of psychosis I imagine when you don't the reality is this a reality is this a game I mean you're not supposed to be beating a person there did the guy had a gun I don't think he had any weapons I don't know too much about the story you see you see that's that's That's the world. That's a freaking out. One hour and a half movie, if you want to show the life of the perpetrator and the life of this MMA player, how the, how, and you end the movie when they fucking broke the guy in half. And then you end up the movies to show the feeling of this guy, the MMA guy, when he realizes that

the other guy, the perpetrator is just a human being, is just a guy. He's hungry. It's like maybe a homeless guy. Maybe he was like from Atlanta, he just came from New York, from what? Coronavirus. What does that have to do with him? That's a bad luck. Yeah, but who cares right he broke into your house on the show he was presented more like heroic like a hero like wow this is the

MMA fighter and he caught this guy and he beat him up and because he broke into his house I'm not a fan of that I mean I'm not I'm like the story I listen to the story but I I mean, I'm not I'm like the story I listen to the story, but I I'm not gonna judge it so fast and say yeah, I beat that guy fucking, you know Yeah, but he's another human being dude. He wasn't speaking like that He wasn't like boasting they beat someone up. He didn't want to he said he was like shaking up It wasn't he had a lot of emotions dude I would be if I could I would beat the shit out of someone that came in my house. I don't want to I'm not saying I'd be able to but if I got given the opportunity a hundred percent of someone that came into my house. I don't want to I'm not saying I'd be able to

But if I got given the opportunity a hundred percent you can't break into my house and I would say that for anyone I don't want to kill anyone Very bad after you beat that that's my fault. Yeah, I got you feel very bad But and I will make it how the hell did he survive it? It doesn't make any sense this guy is a top 100 ranked fighter in the world He's massive highly trained Whether he was nervous or not. I mean he knows how to move. He knows how to punch He knows how to knee. He's powerful guy and how you will be amazed how tough the human body is man

I know I watch the UFC all the time. I trained you to. I know this. But you can't be a superhero just because you're scared. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I disagree. I think that I it doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter how scared you are. It doesn't make you tougher. You you will get knocked out in the same way. I mean, you can't just put like a super scared person in the UFC cage and he can all of a sudden take a bunch of punches. He's gonna get knocked out immediately if he doesn't know what he's doing, especially if he weighs like 50 pounds less than the guy when she did in this case. It's very odd and I would love to know more about...

Did you consider Adam? Because I saw you on a camera, because we did the last time on a camera. Now it's going to be just audio. I have the camera here, but I don't think we're going to use it, just the audio this time. But, bro, you're a big guy. I'm a very small guy, OK? So if you come and you beg me, did you

consider that the guy was already in shock after first punch? Which guy the the person that broke in? Exactly. Oh, well, yeah, of course he's in shock. That should make him even worse at fighting It should have got him not so the guy faster So the guy kept hitting it. That's my point. Oh, I got you. I got you. It just seems strange that he wasn't able to like Subduin I think the guy was able to run away even I'm not 100% sure I can't remember how the end of the story went but I Think he I got arrested I'm pretty sure but Crazy stuff crazy stuff. What do you think about the bit in the podcast when Joe was talking about

What did you think about the bit in the podcast when Joe was talking about what it would be like for him to pitch his podcast to a network and he was saying about okay, here's my show I like to get really stone. I like to smoke weed. I mean like to drink a lot. I like to talk a lot of shit, wear whatever clothes I want, say stuff that I regret, and then sometimes watch the fights and laugh with my friends and blah, blah, blah. Like he was saying, nobody would ever give him a show. Of course. Because that's not commercial. You can sell that. And I would give you the best example with a guest that he had on a show, the father of podcasts. Adam Curry.

Right. Did you listen to that show? Yeah. The podcast? Yeah. Okay. Did you do a review of that podcast? I believe so, yeah.

Because I do most of them. Okay, so that I was saying all the length of the podcast as he was as a guest, he was bringing up not commercial, yes that's commercial, that's not commercial, that you can serve, that you can serve. So he was only talking about that, like only, you know, I extracted from that show that things like this like my commercial, like you're doing your podcast right now, like I'm smoking some with I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. You have me on. I don't know why. For the second time, like first time I was really bad, but this time, this time is fine

You know because I said you know what cuz you we was the video feed the video feed kill me, dude Cuz I kept looking at myself. I don't like what I'm seeing. Yeah, that's so good too much work Let's keep it simple too much. We can always ask for but listen to say it's not commercial is not true Because Joe makes like they think that they've estimated that Joe makes 30 million dollars a year with his podcast. So it's a fucking brilliant idea. I was wondering how don't mind the second. Let me ask you about the whole that thought. Don't don't miss it. All right. How does he do that? How does he make so much money on a pop? Because you because it's paid for per thousand listeners and he has millions. So every ad that he plays,

pays him a shit ton of money. Probably makes, like, and this is just a guess, but I would imagine he makes like a hundred thousand dollars of podcast. The who pays you, podcast? No, no, no, no, it's the cash app and square and all the apps that he, all the commercials he does at the beginning.

Oh, wow! Okay. Dude, what do you think those commercials were for? Of course they were for money. Right, right. It's not just the $5. Oh, the $10 with the guy building the, digging the wells. No, they pay. They pay extra for that.

They pay him a shitload of money for that because it's, you know, his first sponsor was the fleshlight, like a sex toy for you. They came a shitload of money for that because it's you know his first sponsor was the fleshlight like a sex toy for Matt and then eventually when he got so many millions of listeners and downloads now he just does a bunch of different like you know what what I'm trying to think of some of the ones he does. He does a blue apron, he does cash app obviously. A bunch of them, but recruiting one, I can't remember what that is. But yeah, they pay, they pay a load of money. I mean, why would you not? People love listening to Joe, he reads them.

It's a better commercial than watching Shitty TV commercials. I mean, it's worth a ton of money for him. And good for him, because, you know, it's an amazing platform and it's super popular. So it's only gonna encourage him to do it forever. Well, until he's like super old. But I think that's great. I mean, we probably have 20 more years

of Joe Rogan experience, maybe more. He could do this when he's like real old. He'd be making a shit ton of money. Yeah, absolutely. I got cash up because of his show. Yeah, yeah. So a lot of he would come and make cash up. That's why I said in the beginning of the show, Adam Adam,

you should promote your own cash up code. You know, put your cash up code somewhere. You know, maybe we cut a clip from the show, we put it on YouTube, whatever. So people can search, you know, the Joe, what's the name of your show again? Maybe we cut this clip off. It's fine. The Joe Rogan Experience review is the name of this. And why is the poster Joe Rogan Universe? Because I might change it. I feel that a good ring to it.

All right. So we're just going to put your name under the YouTube video. Joe Rogan universe because I might change it. I feel that a good ring to it All right, so we're just gonna put your name on there the YouTube video We're gonna just cut this piece that you're listening on a radio right now I'm gonna cut it myself personally with the poster on it and put it on YouTube all right, so just search Joe Rogan Experienced just search add them turn. Yeah, okay. You're gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna put a picture of experience. Just such a dumb term. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna put a picture of of YouTube. Alright, well that's it for today. Thanks for listening. We just did over an hour. It's a little bit longer than we usually do. So if you stuck with it till the end, we appreciate you as always. Thanks for listening and thank you George. This might be the worst podcast for the best one of all time. Little nuggets

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