Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A Review of 1236 Jack Dorsey

Episode Date: February 4, 2019

Jack is a computer programmer and CEO of Twitter. He speaks to Joe about everything from global conversations, politicians tweeting and the future of his company. This was a great conversation to revi...ew and you should definitely check it out if you’re a Twitter user. Enjoy my review folks! Please email me with any suggestions and questions for future Reviews: Joeroganexperiencereview@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Los enbases del verano Siempre van a la amarillo Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the JRE review. I will be reviewing Joe's conversation on podcast 1236 with Jack Dorsey. Jack Dorsey is a computer programmer and better known as the CO4 Twitter. I don't use Twitter a ton, I know a lot of people do, so I'm not hugely familiar with the program itself, but I do know its impact and it's referenced all the time, whether it's celebrity tweets, Kanye, Donald Trump, you name it. The impact of this app is undeniable and to learn a lot about the CEO, the billionaire Jack Dorsey, who's worth, I don't know, somewhere in the range of $5 billion. Just talk about his impact, what it means, the future of the company.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It was really eye-opening and it was cool to listen to a great conversation, so make sure you check it out, but I'm going to start the review. Welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Review! Where each week I review every single episode of the Joe Rogan Experience. One more do you want? So Jack starts off talking just about how the program came about, how it's kind of evolved over the years, what I really liked about it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And bear in mind this guy has been mega wealthy and an billionaire status for a good part of his adult life. So how that changes you as an individual, I can't even imagine. But he seemed very calm, well-fulled out. He didn't get defensive or aggressive or... I mean, not that people get aggressive on Joe's podcast. But yeah, he wasn't... He was just a chilled guy that was really listening to the conversation and being a part of it and not trying to rush anything or get ahead
Starting point is 00:02:32 of himself. I really liked the way that he was thinking. And he was talking about how the app Twitter has evolved over the years in the sense of really they've allowed the user to kind of define how the program was going to work and that being like adding at before people's names to and then the hashtags and these things just kind of developed on their own and Twitter the the guys that run Twitter just allowed that process to expand.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They gave it room to create a life of its own almost, which I think is really fascinating. Because now, I mean, everyone's familiar with tagging people and putting hashtags in. And I just always assumed that that had come from the programmers themselves, like this was an idea they had. But it's an evolving space that everybody can kind of play apart and open up that conversation. And also, you know, it's powerful because global leaders are using this. I mean, worldwide, that's a huge platform. You know, Donald Trump's tweets make the news all the time. And other world leaders are doing very similar things. It's a huge platform. You know, Donald Trump's tweets make the news all the time and other world leaders are doing very similar things as a good way to get a lot of information out. Well, I guess not a lot of information because it's only a few characters, but you can reference
Starting point is 00:03:56 things and get people thinking it's just a very instant way of, in a sense being able to text the entire world. You know, one text and everyone gets it. The issue there is in a lot of ways is what you say last forever. I mean it's on the record for all of history and I don't know, some people don't seem very careful about what they write a lot of times. Maybe that had come back a bite in the ass, who knows. They talk a little bit about the terms of service, you know, when you sign up for like iTunes and all those sorts of things. There's always
Starting point is 00:04:38 those terms of service, pages, and no one ever reads them. And it's something that Joe talks about. And Joe was saying that, yeah, nobody reads reads that I don't read it do you read it I guess Jack has read the ones for Twitter he did say he hasn't read the ones for a lot of other things and and that's just kind of one of those things and I've always thought that's weird it's like we're responsible for the terms of service because we can't use the program unless we agree, but surely nobody ever can expect us to have read that whole thing. At best, they should make you watch a video, right? That's like a minute long where somebody is quickly as they can read through it. At least so you hear the words, what you do with it.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I don't know. I guess if it's that important, actually, a video sounds super annoying, so hopefully they don't make that, because I just prefer to just click past it. But otherwise, you don't get that information. I mean, how can we be held responsible for something that definitely nobody is talking, nobody has read the whole
Starting point is 00:05:46 thing of. They get into who gets banned, right? Who gets banned from using Twitter, who gets banned from these other platforms like Patreon and who decides this? And Jack was saying is done, basically users will report something and then once it's reported, somebody will either look into it or like an AI system will kind of look at trends of how things are being posted and so on and then that's how things get banned. So for example Joe gave the Told the story about how Aries Chaffee was banned from Twitter Because he was giving birth Christchurch a hard time about stealing his records and he said I'm gonna kill you But now obviously just joking their old friends they go way back but for that reason Aries got banned from Twitter I don't know if he's back on it. I don't know the whole story behind that, but it's kind of funny. And definitely
Starting point is 00:06:49 seems like something that Erie and Bert would do for sure. Alex Jones recently banned from Twitter. That's kind of like the big thing because he's getting banned from everywhere and you know, what did he do? How did he get banned? That sort of thing. Alex Jones is going through a tough time But at the same time he said some crazy air shit, so you've got to pay for that. I mean that's that's really that's really what's happening The focus really through this podcast Conversation was just that how Jack is really changing the way people communicate. I mean, he's leading the way. I mean, maybe not specifically just him, I mean him and his team, but his company. It really is changing the way that people communicate. And how long
Starting point is 00:07:35 will it be before they have one that automatically translate the language and translates the little nuances so that everyone from all the countries or in the world can read and understand what's being said. I mean it's crazy and they don't know what is happening in the sense of where it's going. Joe gave the example that he it's the same with his podcast. He didn't know where it was going, what it was happening, it was just something funny, he did in his basement, He didn't know where it was going, what it was happening, it was just something funny he did in his basement, and really if you stop and think about it, that's really like nothing else that's been developed in a lot of ways, because you know, you would start off on TV, you'd have a small show, then you'd have a larger show, then you'd have this
Starting point is 00:08:18 audience. I don't think anyone that started a podcast back in like 2010 really realized that one day you could have such a massive audience and zero restrictions on the way that you deliver your message. I mean nobody is policing what Joe says, right? I mean if he started saying crazy things people would be pretty outraged but I mean they can't stop him, they couldn't ban the podcast, he can just go with it. And that's why I think the way that he does his show is so important because he didn't really come at it within agenda. He just had an idea to speak to interesting people that he wanted to
Starting point is 00:08:57 talk to about things he wants to talk about, but it's allowed him to adjust the way that he talks and the way that he communicates and the guest that he has To the audience that exists as well like there definitely is a moral obligation for Joe to I mean in some degrees he doesn't have to be moral about the message that he brings forward and what he's doing, but I think he feels that and He certainly delivers on it. He's always adjusting to be more understanding and bring guests on that maybe don't even agree with him just so he can find a better way of communicating and
Starting point is 00:09:35 learning. I think that's a really cool thing. And as for Twitter, I mean, Twitter definitely expands the conversation in general. So there's like a narrative that's being played out, whether it's because the elections are coming or whether there's war on or whatever. And then all of a sudden, people have a voice. They have a stage. They have their own massive soapbox that everybody can go and listen to. Instead of going to the town center and hearing what people think about what's going on, or logging into
Starting point is 00:10:05 bizarre blog sites online, there's now just this forum that comes straight to your phone from all different types of people. And one thing that Jack says is a big problem now is that people only are plugging in and listening to people that agree with them. And what he's hoping to do is create a system where opposing opinions to a discussion come into ADD individuals. So, you know, if you're very liberal, very Republican, there's also the opposite side of certain parts of the story, just to give you a hand with understanding the bigger picture. And that's kind of important for things like Brexit's a good example. There was a lot of false information coming from the Brexit people and they were only listening to that and then once they voted for it You know the Brexit guys kind of got screwed because a lot of what they were promised didn't come true
Starting point is 00:10:59 But they didn't have that information. They weren't looking at it. So in some ways it wasn't necessarily all their fault have that information they weren't looking at it. So in some ways it wasn't necessarily all their fault. Jack also talks about the idea of making all this information decentralized. So no one company or one government controls it all. He didn't sound like he knows Twitter is big. He has plenty of money so he certainly doesn't need any more. And I don't think that he have the idea that he wants his company to be the biggest, the most powerful thing that exists ever. Maybe does, maybe there's no way to get around that feeling. But the sense that I got was that he likes opposing arguments and opposing thought and maybe even competitive companies and different ideas. Like, the idea that all the power would be held in one place,
Starting point is 00:11:47 especially when it comes to controlling information, is a scary thing. And, you know, towards the end of their conversation, Jack really laid down that he wants Twitter to help humanity. Right, that's kind of part of his core mission. He wants the communication to be shared and to be free and really know one company to control it all. And the last thing that they got onto was was something that is close to Joe's heart is the cash app.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So obviously the cash app gives money to just in Ren and the fight for the forgotten digging the wells for the pigmies and then it gives them five bucks and then Ray Boggs child who Ray Boggs a UFC fighter, MMA fighter who's kid is undergoing a lot of medical procedures and they're giving money to him to help them out. But what's really cool about it is Twitter was, so I guess this is like a company owned by Twitter, but just some of the things that come with the cash app are really worth checking out. I mean, I don't know your situation where they have good credit, bad credit, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And obviously I'm not getting paid by cash app, but it actually just sounds like a good way for people to save some good money and get the benefits of you know, decent credit cards that are those benefits are only really given to people you know, they have money and don't necessarily need to be the ones Saving the most money, but anyway check it out see what you think. I went ahead and downloaded that app and I have a cash card coming so I'm gonna play with it and see what it's like. But thank you guys so
Starting point is 00:13:27 much for listening today and take it easy. you

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