Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - A review of Episode 1204 Steve Rinella

Episode Date: November 30, 2018

Steve Rinella is a world class hunter and one of the best representatives for it. Check out his podcast Meateater to learn more. He is a good friend of Joe's and got him into hunting. Their conversations are always great. Check out his new book on cooking wild meats. Enjoy my review folks! Please email me with any suggestions and questions for future shows :   [e-mail]

Hello and welcome to another episode of the JRE Review where each week this podcast reviews the Joe Rogan Experience podcast there's no affiliation but I'm a fan the guests that I have on are also fans and we talk about the parts of the podcast for the week that we enjoyed the most and kind of give a bit of a rundown for it. This week was a great podcast, podcast 1204 with Steve Renella. Now, Steve Renella is a hunter, a bow hunter primarily, but hunter all kinds of animals. He was a part of the show Meetita in Apex Warrior, which are both great shows. And a good friend of Joe's, he got Joe into hunting quite a few years ago and they've remained pretty close ever since. You know, a lot of the appeal of Ronella is just,

you know, really how talented he is, how good of a hunter he is, how like kind of ethical he is with that, his understanding of how it all works. He has ability to be able like kind of ethical years with that is of the standing of how it all works. Here's ability to be able to kind of articulate the environment of hunting and what it means to hunt and his connection to nature and then also recently just came out of the cookbook for cooking like You know game and and hunted animals, which is really cool because a lot of times these animals maybe hunted very great hunters but maybe not eaten by good chefs. So it's cool to have some of the really knows how to cook this stuff as well. And first of in their conversation, Steve and Joe talk about 23 me kind of like ancestry stuff. Joe is like 1.0%

African-American or African I guess and Steve almost 2% 2% black so slugging more black is Steve and Joe still not a lot black though They went kind of into the history of man and Steve knows a lot about hunting through the ages and the history because in a lot of ways he's gone down to like remote parts of Peru and where people still hunt really basically so he can kind of see like where we would have been thousands of years ago. And he said that modern humans are as violent as Neanderthals. So Neanderthals, they even had bigger brains. They were shorter and stronger. But the thought was that humans weren't as violent in the Neanderthals was just this ruthless monster. But no, it turns out we were about as ruthless. And we bred him with that, which is kind of a cool thing.

I'd love to learn more about that and understand like how it happened. Like, did they really get wiped out? Or did we just in and breathe with them? And if we could, you know, what does that even mean? Like, what we even that much different? And it's just interesting. Joe said that Steve's new cookbook is great and that Steve said he had to cut a lot out of it take a lot of pages out and sections just because of like editing but he did

spend a long time collecting the pictures. I haven't seen that book but it would be great to get a whole the one as cookbooks go I'm sure would be a super interesting one and he said a lot about the colors the pictures the Illustrations, you know, the things that that really made me be able to follow this and and picking things out of the book Really important. He also said he didn't really do it by Species or most you know whether it's like a salmon or a card if you're preparing fish, but he just explained that it's like this is generally how to prepare fish like this, and then other things you can do to kind of cook with that way. Steve's show that's on Netflix is really interesting and Joe was saying this to Steve, I believe the same thing.

He's because not only does he hunt on the show, but he also spends a lot of times cooking. So he's like a cooking show and a hunting show, and he really shows you how to like rent a fat, some break things down, and that's pretty rare when hunting shows go. So it is super fascinating. And you know, he has that same kind of captivating way of talking, almost like Bodain did. Like he's so passionate about what he's saying. You can't help but just kind of like really get into it, which is awesome.

Then he talks a little bit about like the early Americans, and like the Lewis and, you know, like the Lewis and Clark ages. He said to the richest men in early America, what beaver traders, and mostly traded in like beaver hats, which I thought was pretty cool. And he said even when Lewis and Clark

traveled across the US, it wasn't like, you know, it was such, like undiscovered lands as they kind of make out some of the tribes that they came across those Native Native American tribes had had like even traveled the France and met the king so You know lowest- and clock story was a huge story, but it wasn't like they were really the first people to come in contact with these Like kind of native tribes and all the rest of it. So it wasn't as untraveled as you think. A big popular food back then was beaver tail. He was talking about it's not that good to eat but it has a lot of fat in it, a lot of other meats very lean. So you would have needed the fat if you were traveling a lot so you would have liked that. And then he talks about a guy that he knows that actually it lives so

secludedly that he's like an old guy who tends to some horses on this ranch and he was kind of comparing that to like how we all live with so many people today and where we're so kind of inundated with people. That to get a chance just to kind of be on your own is fairly rare, but this guy, you know, he's often left some food but generally not enough to survive, you know, the winter however the time. So he goes out hunting and when Steve's visited with him, often he'd disappear for hours on end because like, you know, that's his solitary life and it's very interesting but you kind of adapt to it. You probably even holding a few conversations a day if you're

not used to it, it's like super overwhelming, I would imagine. Joe talks to Steve about how his kids are really into fishing and he went bass fishing with one of his kids in Florida and she was so excited to get up and wake up at like 5 a.m. And go fishing because she just so into it. It's not like she didn't want to just go to bed and stay asleep like she was up and awake and ready to go do this. Which is cool. Like that's cool to hear the passion of that sort of thing. And you know, in the same way Steve Rinalo takes his kids hunting. And he told the story about how he felt bad recently.

There's doughted, started crying on a hunt, you know, whereas if his son had been crying, he would have just said, chush, but he felt bad that his girl was, his daughter was cold and was struggling. But generally, they're very supportive of its hunting and there's, for example, he made some sausages with FoxMe and the kids didn't even mind. It wasn't even a big deal. Then he talked about another type of meat that

he really likes called squab. I'd never heard of this. I think I heard the term but I wasn't sure what it was for. Squab is like a bird meat, like maybe pigeon or something, but when it's a baby. So before it's flown and its meat is different, it's pink and it's like more tender and more delicious, whereas once pigeon starts flying, then meat kind of goes gray and it doesn't taste very good. So squab meat is something that's very, it's pink, it's tender, Steve Rinella, you know, prefers it and it's just something I'd never even heard of. I'm kind of keen to try it. It's it sounds sad that like a baby bird needs to die but you know I'm sure I'm not gonna eat it to start eating it every day.

So eating it one time will be fine. He talks a little bit about black bear meat, but meat in his burglary, it's not that good, often because they eat a lot of rotten fish, so their meat is kind of gross. The good time to eat black bear is when they're foraging in blueberries, and building up their fats for the winter, eating lot of blueberries because their meat tastes a bit like blueberry which is cool. And then he moved on to just kind of conservation and stuff and talking about how the mountain lions are doing really well across America that recolonizing a lot of areas that manage pretty well by the local wildlife departments. And it's a type of meat that people that's very good, that he likes a lot, that people don't often think about, and he says tastes like pork, which is crazy to think, I don't know, I don't know if I'd ever eat mountain lion.

And then they talk about the hunting of them, like they don't allow the hunting of them, I don't think in Mexico, I mean sorry in California, you know, because people hate the idea of line hunting, but they allow the park members to kill the animals and waste the meat. So the people that run like the government wildlife departments still have to go and regulate these creatures, even if hunting is not loud. And you know, they're, they're, they're not all the meters wasted because they, they can't use it for anything. So the same number is dying, but it's, it's like the ignorance of it makes it okay. Like because you don't hear people getting excited and going out hunting and posting pictures on social media, even though more of the animal will be used and it will be just as

ethical, because it's done by a regulatory board like the government, somehow it's okay. I don't know about that. I don't know how I think about that. You know, if you don't want to know how something really works in reality, yet still have strong opinions on it. I don't know. I don't kind of want to talk to you about that much. I think that people really need to learn and know what's going on and whether they like it or not, at least accept that reality. It seems strange to me. Anyway, another thing that Steve was talking about in the podcast is once an animal has recovered from the endangered list, meaning that it's population has got so much larger that it's no longer an endangered creature. It should go back to the states from like federal protection and over time when numbers get large

enough can be hunted again and I wonder what your thoughts were on that right because to me it makes sense but it will be weird to start hearing that there's like you know bold eagle hunting is all of a sudden a large just because there numbers have jumped up but in a sense it really is just a number game if there's not enough of them we shouldn't hunt them. And if there's too many, then that's a good thing to hunt. It seems to make sense. Then Joe talks a little bit about how you can't buy game meat, like you can't buy elk. Other than like New Zealand elk, but you can't buy elk that's hunted in the US. You can only get it off other people that have hunted or you go

hunting yourself and it's good that you can't buy the game but it would be great to have professional restaurants that were able to cook it so regular people that don't hunt could try amazing recipes and I think that's a really good thought and an amazing idea and it is kind of a shame that that can't happen. So people can just enjoy that meat, cook that it's best, and then maybe people will see different things about it. I don't know.

Then to wrap up, they talk a little bit about the meat-eater podcast that Steve Rinalo hosts. It's really good. If you haven't ever listened to it, check out some of the episodes. Check out the episode when they were attacked by a bed. I think it's a two-parter on an Alaska island. I forget the name of the island, but anyway,

it's an incredible podcast, such a good listen. And he's really good at explaining things. If you want to learn more about hunting, I definitely recommend that. And also get his new book because it sounds fantastic and he also talked about how eating squirrel is pretty tasty. I don't know about that. It sounds back country as hell but you know he's tried it, he knows what he's doing. But anyway, check out their podcast and that conversation. It's fantastic. It's always cool to have Steve on and listen to those two, you know, just get down to business.

But thanks so much. I'll talk to you guys soon. Peace.