Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - Joe Rogan Experience Review 175

Episode Date: September 20, 2019

My apologizes to those that downloaded the original version of this where I didn't splice the audio together.. I fucked that up so my bad.. Here is the fix! A bunch of great guests this week. 1344 Joseph Ledoux with his knowledge on survival. 1345 Steve Aoki the DJ and cake to the face master.. 1347 Neil deGrasse Tyson.. The man himself with the space knowledge! How can anyone not enjoy listening to this guy. Enjoy my review folks! Follow me on Instagram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email me here with any suggestions and questions for future shows..

Bro, ¿me das un sorvito de tu lata de refresco? Que lata, bro, si este es una lámpara. Que si, bro, que una lata de refresco en el contenedor amarillo puede ser un montón de cosas. Ok, entonces ¿qué? ¿me das un sorvito de tu lámpara? Hello, JRE Review Listeners. I have to apologize first and foremost for anybody and the thousands of people that downloaded the last JRE review 175 podcast to

where I did not sync up the two streams of audio. So everything Mark said was left off and I'm so sorry that you had to listen to that nonsensical garbage. For whatever reason I posted it and I thought it was done and I left it and it wasn't until I was getting emails and messages saying, look you dummy, you didn't fucking put the audio in. So yeah, well then the audio somehow got deleted, so I've just spent fucking the last few hours trying to track that shit down and figure out how to splice it all together.

But anyway, I got it done, and this is JRE Review 175 from the top, once again, sorry about that fellas. Enjoy! 5 4 3 2 1 You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created. Now with your host, Adam Thorn and Mark Hampton. This might be the worst podcast with the best one of all time. Got some good ones, got some scientists, got some DJs. Well, I guess we got another scientist.

Scientists and DJs. Yeah. Opposite ends of the spectrum. Exactly, exactly. One invented the iPod. The other one is just a nice technology. They do. They do use technology.

Well, as I was saying, I was like, one invented the iPod and the other one is an iPod. Yeah. That's so true. That's so perfect. Yeah. Yeah. The other, there's not incredible skill involved in being a DJ because there is. I've seen some of them do their shit live.

I'm like, damn, like, it's basically mixing as is. But then some DJs, they might as well just be like an iPhone or Spotify playlist and they just sit play and they're talking. You know, you say that, but I'm suspicious. I really am. I really am. I mean, it's not, it's not like, uh, Millie Vanillee, what was that band? Millie Vanillee, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not their fake band, where it's gonna skip during their set, but to believe that these guys on a, on a rough night where they've like, you know, chump through a few edibles, they're like, I could just put on a CD and just stand up here. I mean would we know? No we'd

have no clue. We'd have no clue. We'd have absolutely no clue. And just for fun even if they weren't fucked up I still think it would be worth trying. Oh hell yeah well some of us for them knowing how much they get paid just to be like I'm gonna make $75,000 today and I'm just gonna press play Oh my man pump my hand. I would love to do that Mean right that's it. I'm gonna become a DJ One of the best jobs. Okay, changed done Can you start a 40 years old?

Probably not I think you need to be at least 18 to start with negative attitude, man. With way better hair than me. And piercing. I think you have to just start with that. You could be the old guy with the piercing. Oh, there it is. Like Harrison Ford. What? Harrison Ford got like his ear pierced like I don't know 15 years ago and it was like this big thing and and then ever and the men kind of stopped piercing their ears because it was just no longer in fashion he still got his ear pierced and now it just looks like an old man that's like out of time that's Indiana Jones fucking Indiana Jones has like a stud don't ruin this for me. I can't believe that's true

I'm not even gonna goo Don't you write up I was lying and I was entirely made up don't don't believe me All right JRE review listeners. We got podcast 1344 boom Joseph Ladoo for Joseph Ladouk's name. I forget how to say his name, but I wrote it down. He has a new book with a deep history of ourselves. And you know, it's always fascinating to have the type of scientist that go on Rogan's podcast because it seems to be that the big focus

for Joe is like understanding the mind. He's always been really into that. Right. Kind of see a pattern with it like throughout his podcast. Right. I think he goes with his comedy and just like just his interest in, like this is it. So this guy studies like fear and anxiety, like how it's created. We all get that. We all get fear. We all get anxious. You know, it's something that, you know, even people that say they don't suffer from anxiety, they're going gonna deal with it.

This is like a biological system. Right, well, and to hear it, go on. Well, anxiety is the feeling of fear without the source of fear. It's kind of like, I mean, anxiety is basically, it's like your body thinks it's still in a precarious situation, so it's pumping that adrenaline like crazy

Through your body even though you're just sitting on the couch thinking about what you're gonna make for breakfast type of thing, you know, that's yeah Because I know how how Joseph put it was like fear is instant. It's like you see The threat the line is there you have maximum red line of adrenaline. But then as human beings, because we understand ourselves in a very complex way, like beyond other creatures, therefore we can think into the future and into the past. So we can kind of almost mentally time travel, which is strange to think of, but it's almost curious because you're like, when you look at a cat, right, you're like, can they think about what

they desire way into the future? Or they're like, what am I doing today? Yeah, I think most creatures are like, I'm just thinking about what I'm doing today. Just thinking about food. Probably, right? But we can think how far ahead, like years or retirement, the end of our life beyond, absolutely. We worry about beyond death. Like we're way out thinking of timespots.

Oh, completely. And that is where he's saying the anxiety comes from. Absolutely. Because you just, I don't know, I think, I think it's fun to think into the future about beautiful things. But we're all going to be good. That's what you want.

That's what we want to, yeah, exactly. We want to achieve that. But the main desire or maybe evolutionary ability to do it was to figure out threats. Who the fuck is coming? Absolutely. I mean, the guilty pleasure of mine was the original CSI show. And I remember this one episode where Gil Grissom was talking about it and how we are evolutionary, on a never-lutionary level, we are trained to be afraid.

It is what has kept us alive as a species from small mammals that survived, you know, after the dinosaurs went extinct. We were small little mammals, easy prey. And we had to develop fear, because that's what kept us alive. We were biologically adapted to fear, to have fear to keep us alive. So it's such a part of our DNA. It's what keeps us alive. Being afraid of getting hit by another car

is what keeps you from making crazy lane changes. Some people do it anyway. I get in an accident. I'm sorry. Because they think they're gonna make it. Of course. Risk takers. Yeah, and they probably have a lot of times.

Yeah, probably going to go and just slam it in. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, oftentimes when you see like a Honda Civic, right, and car aside, like it could be any make, but like one of those guys just drives down the freeway, crosses three lanes of traffic, like nothing. Uh-huh. You know, you're just like, you know, probably blaring techno traffic, like nothing. And you know, you just like, you know,

pro-blaring techno music, like guaranteed. That dude's like 21. Oh easy. Or maybe last. Easy, right? Yeah, cause all teenagers think they're, or young adults think they're immortal. I was the same exact same way.

They haven't quite figured it out. And last, it's one of those super rich guys that just bought a Ferrari last week. And once it gets going, they just can't stop that shit. Some Saudi prince. The girls don't apply to me. Yeah, well, you know, they all have a diplomatic immunity anyway. So they're gonna fuck it up. Genius. I would take that too. Are you kidding me? You bet your ass. Eat, not even close.

I'd be smuggling things abroad. I didn't even need to smuggle. Just because I knew. I wouldn't. I just like shoplift, like Ben and Jerry's or something. I'm like, oh, and got nothing on me. I wouldn't do anything crazy. I just be like, I'd be like, oh,

I forgot to get this pack of gum. I'm just taking it. That's all that would be a diplomatic immunity. You just get to the airport with random shopping items that you yes pilfered and then when they want to check you because the police are there with all these reports you're like you can't check it. You can't check it. I have to go. Yeah. you can't check it, I have to go. Yeah. Yeah. And then when you land back in your hometown, all your gifts to your family are just these random stolen.

Yeah, they're just from like Brookstone and things like that. I don't think it's, I think Brookstone closed, right? Because everybody would go in to use the Mishas chairs, but never one would ever buy them. Well, it didn't help, they were $9,000. That is true. There's like Sky Mall. Nobody ever bought any that I can't believe Sky Mall ever survived like a past a month because they were so expensive and I was like who wants this shit? But it was fun. It was fun. It was something to parose while you were on the plane. Actually what was the best

thing in Sky Mall? Man uh there was some things I saw that I was they had that whole Lord of the Rings page I remember oh I'm sure they did yeah that makes sense not that I was into that but I remember that being there you could buy like a ring and a fucking sword and all that all kinds and I'm like you know they had a bookshelf that held like a thousand CDs Right, it's like what what they were probably even buying CDs They were probably the first thing to like sell end tables that have like USB ports in them like charge your phone from your table Something like that. Oh my god. It's the future

Well the next question really is how the fuck did they go out of business? Because they didn't have stores and they advertised that like a bunch of Superboard businessmen Landwomen that flew all year long that probably made a ton of money That's true. This is damn fine. I've been like they didn't make an app. That's why it could very well be a second. Yeah. Yeah, that should be I mean they could have had a deal with all the airlines is like nobody gets Wi-Fi, but you will get free access to SkyMall.com. How the 10% coupon. Exactly. Five 100% overpriced garbage. Exactly. They had a lot of inflatable shit. I remember that. Right. Get an inflatable pole and an inflatable head pillow,

inflatable butt massager. I don like, who the fuck is doing that? Exactly. No one. That's why they went out of business. Well, I guess so. Yeah. I always felt though that there were a lot of super motivated people out there. And I would look at that and I would think, God, I need to get more motivated about my workouts. Right. Well, what do you think? What do you think about fear? Do you have, do you have a experience anxiety? I have, I experienced it all the time, but I, uh, but I'm not

too much lately. Obviously, fear pops up. Right. Fear, of course. Do you experience anxiety or any PTSD or anything like that? Hmm. PTSD is, um, a difficult one for me to like say I suffer from because I haven't done anything even close to what like military type people do. Of course. Right. You know, but, hmm.

I mean, I get anxious, I think. I definitely do about the future. I really don't too much about the past. I don't get too frustrated about things that happened beforehand. I have, for sure, when I was younger, I used to get real upset about things that had already happened. Like, things that I thought I was unlucky with or that about things that had already happened, like things that I thought I was unlucky with, all that had not gone right for me, that sort of thing.

But yeah, far more now, and with that, and far more driven, is, you know, I just focus on like, okay, what I want to do, what things am I getting done, you know, and and and I guess what things am I getting done is a bit of like a pass reflection But I do it within like the week so I can adjust it really quickly So yeah for sure gets in right for sure gets in and then work does it work fucking makes me access all the time You can for me to what it's weird If I'm teeter and I don't really know what will kind of start me off, but if I'm teetering on the edge of Feeling like I'm gonna have major anxiety. I don't want to say I Wouldn't say I've really had panic attacks, but I definitely get to this point where I kind of feel a little

I don't because I don't feel like I'm happy for ventilating but I do feel like the anxiety is debilitating in some ways but what will really send me over the edge is if I'm waiting for like a website to load and it's taking too long or I'm waiting to like if I'm having to wait for something that I expect instantly that can send me over the edge it's the weirdest fucking thing I'll be like come on come on come on come on and then, it's all sudden I'm sweating and I'm just in a bad state and I just have to like go away for a while. It's the weirdest fucking thing. That's definitely a catalyst. Yeah, you know, for sure. Absolutely. But that event on its own

is not a problem. I think it's that. Oh, absolutely. Build ourselves up to it, you know, agree. It's like we, we are good at bringing ourselves to almost the red line. Mm-hmm. And being like, okay, I can tolerate this much. Right. And just hanging there all day, assuming nothing else will piss us off. And then like the smallest thing will. Exactly. Like you try to go to Netflix and it's just not loading. And you're like, I can't believe this. Perfect example. Yep.

Yeah. 100%. Yeah, it's, but it's hard. It's like everyone is close to that fucking yellow red line. Yeah. You almost look weird if you're like so Zen. If you were just like Zen all day, people like, is that dude fucking high? Isn't it weird to meet people like that?

Like when people, I mean, you know, cause we're in so much more. Yeah, I don't know. We made a lot of interesting folks, but you meet that one person who's like, you know, like, hey, how's it going? You know, just in daily life and work or whatever, you don't know this person from Adam,

they're like, oh my God, I am so blessed. Everything is just so beautiful. Thank you so much for asking about, oh, you're about to go off. You are two seconds away from killing everyone in this room. Like it's just so fucking fake. It's so fake. I mean, you don't believe shit for shine all of what you're saying. You were so above your own feelings or you have brain damage. That's the whole idea of you're not pissed off or not paying attention. And I'm just like, boy, you just are out to lunch. You've got no connection to the world right now. And maybe you're

happy that way, but I don't trust it. Well, I don't know. I think the people that actually think that way don't have to say it to you or anyone because they know that it would probably make you feel like shit. Exactly. Yeah, I feel like. What would you just go like if someone was like, hey, how you doing? You're like, oh my god, I'm having the best time. I'm having the best life. It's literally the greatest experience ever.

I can't believe how amazing it is. Yeah. That's not going to make anyone that you just spoke to be like, what? Right. Chill out, bro. You need to call the fuck. Yeah, yeah's not gonna make anyone that you just spoke to be like what? Right now, bro. You need to go on the fuck. Yeah, you know, okay. Are you all right? I fucking need your location. Exactly. Do you need to talk? Yeah, but if they were like, no, I'm doing great. How are you? And then they focused on you and ask you a bunch of questions and we're like, hey, man If there's anything I can do and like it's really cool what you're creating and after listening to you

They give you really solid feedback That would be a way better example of someone that's like oh that fucking dude might be all gal whatever just Might be in like a great position Exactly Exactly The other dudes are meth That's how um the people when I first got into Buddhism, that's how the people in my Buddhist group were.

They were just a little too happy to be Buddhist. And I was like, can we, I'd be like, hey, how's it going? They were like, oh my god, this practice has changed in my life. It's so amazing. But I'm like, yeah, but did you watch the Dodger game yesterday?

We can talk about other shit than how great your life is with this practice or whatever. It just was always weird to me. It felt like Sunday church, like everything else, like reaffirming their own beliefs. It was like, I'm good. I'm good with how I feel. I'm good with what I believe.

Let's talk about baseball or the weather or like, what do you do for work, but anything, but like, oh my god, everything's so amazing. I'm like, it's just, it brings hollow. I don't believe it. I don't buy into it. You're covering some shit up. Well, I got to say man I mean I assume we did this in LA. I mean what the fuck are LA Buddhists and no offense LA bullet Buddhists Oh, no, yeah when I lived in Sri Lanka they were Buddhists sure It's no it's cool. There's so many different types. There's so many different types. Well yeah I mean though I'm sure they were all similar but I mean that's like far closer to the history of this and they were probably generations in and it was way more of a thing. I get

imagine that you know a lot of LA Buddhists are just rocking in there trying to be trendy. just uh... rockin' in there trying to be trendy uh... uh... some of it definitely was i mean but you you could put a Buddhist label in anything and uh... the people that perpetrate all the violence in burma or me and more they're all Buddhists

but there's you know but they're mass occurring people so it's kind of like it you can call ourselves whatever we fucking want doesn't change you know it's more the action than the actual name. It's like, I mean, that's a whole part of it. It's like no attachment to anything, including your title, or what you are. But that's a lesson and they all have to learn too.

Probably some of them did, but it's what drove me away from that particular group. It was just a little, it was a little too LA trendy. It was a little too much gluten free spirituality and not actual like mindfulness and spirituality where I'm known with you. But yeah, but let me guess. I bet there was some really good things that you took away from it.

Oh, 100 million percent. Yeah, so I did a men's group like that. For a while, actually through a Rogan podcast, like I guess the Rogan had. Oh, no shit. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, he has a men's group that he does and I followed it for a while. I started like the Santa Santa Monica group and did it for a year and did get a lot out of it, but then it, you know know it was almost the same thing it became like it seemed like it was becoming like LA trendy and unless oh you know it was just further away from like the real conversation that I thought that we were having and exactly saying that it's I don't leave frustrated or mad or anything.

I have great feelings about the people there and all the things that I did. Like, it had me thinking in different ways. It was pretty interesting. That's fantastic. Really what? That's all you want. That's all you can ask. So along the same lines, since we bring up Buddhism.

So Joseph was, there was a point where they were talking about, would you use new technologies to live forever? so if there was like gene altering and maybe bionic implants and That was available Would you take it and in his my next question, right? This is two two-part question. Yeah second part Would you have a choice?

That is a true. Yeah, I probably would take it. I mean, I could I I feel like the cool magnanimous thing to say to say would be like, no, I'm just gonna live out the life I have and I'll be good with that, to be perfectly honest. I feel like it would. The only my only question would be like, can I change my mind later? Is like one pill or take, or do I take a pill a day and if I stop taking it, will I eventually die? Because I may change my fucking mind. Not that I can't kill myself, but it's one of those things. Like, I don't know. I might not wanna live the rest of my life without Katie

and my brothers and you and my friends and all that stuff that they're all gone and I'm still around. That might suck, I don't know. At this point, I'd just like the color in my hair back, which I'm perfectly honest. But yeah, this is- so to answer the second part, I think that you said that you don't have a choice. Right? Well, I mean, I feel like we have a choice. I mean, why wouldn't we have a choice? Well, it's just that. It's just what you said like I think the same thing right?

I think I would want to say no, I'll just live a normal life Right, because in a way it's kind of trendy. It's like almost trendy to me right but like when that last day comes You won't want to make that choice. I mean, especially if there's a healthy living alternative, they're like, no, no, no, you'll be healthy. You won't just like drag around in a wheelchair. Yeah, you're not a vegetable. You'll see your family tomorrow. And you know, it's almost like, okay, that's the choice.

You wouldn't have a choice. I mean, I can easily say, I don't want to die. I know that much. And I don't feel like that's going to really change in 50 years, or however long it's going to be. I feel like I like being alive. I enjoy all the creature comforts that comes with life.

So I would probably say, yeah, I'd take it. I would take it. I'd take the pill. But with the caveat that I reserve the right to change my mind. No, if you bet, you don't get to. You don't. They just give you a hammer when the time changes. You're just like, fuck.

Will I battle other immortal beings with in sword fights and cut off their heads? You put them up against each other and you just bash it out. Will I be a highlander is what I'm asking? For teething. If I am a highlander, then the answer is emphatically yes. Oh yeah, I thought I'd do that. I don't know what all that electricity was about, but I liked it.

Yeah, exactly. I know. Because they had supernatural powers or something. I was like, the dude I like. I really like the trench dude that I was telling I really liked a trench coat, that's all I care about. I liked a lot of what Joseph was saying and he was a very interesting guest.

I think as a podcast as a whole, it was pretty heady, you know, and if you're not necessarily like a biologist, you know. And that happens to me. To me, to me it was a, it was a, it was a five out of 10, I think. Yeah, I give it that. I would give it that too.

Sometimes, you know, we're not sick of fans. Sometimes the guests just aren't interesting to me. That's like the MMA dudes, zero, not even, I'm not even going near that, because it's just not. I know you love that. It's racist. We need to work on that. I know, I know, I know. But I respect it. I respect it. Well, you know, I'm a biochemist and I like the way he spoke. It was clear. It was just too narrow of a subject and not to sound like an asshole, but it was just just the fear, anxiety, response to things.

And it was just pretty vague. I found myself asking too many questions and wanting too many answers. It's kind of where I was with that, but let us know if you get more out of that one. Give us a message. Please tell us what you liked. let us know if you get more out of that one, you know, give us a message. Yeah, please tell us what you like. Tell us what you liked. We'll see. Yeah, next up 1345 Steve Aoki, right?

DJ extraordinaire has residences in Las Vegas, real popular out in LA, and he's a big, you know, kind of electronic music guy, and he loves the cake people. Now, I'd never heard of what Caking people was. I would have assumed that it was some sort of porn hub category beforehand. But now I know he actually just throws cakes at people's faces that come to his shows. Three stages style. Right. Yeah.

What a waste of faith. So for anyone listening that knew this or goes to his shows, please explain why that is great because that sounds ridiculous That's yeah, who knows he's a DJ dude. I don't know It sounds like a lot of funny. He was a super nice sounding person very chilled he Like his ego he could just put his ego aside and Immediately went from what he did with his music into what he likes about science that he loves the interview people he's very curious he's like traveling around interviewing people and recording it but not posting it

he's almost making like his own sort of Joe Rogan but just using his celebrity to get in front of like fascinating people. And longevity is a big part of his focus, which is again on the same track, right? We just came from talking about living forever. And Aoki recently lost his father. And since that's happened, he, you know, I guess he's worried about death, I don't, when was the, who's the closest person you've lost to you in your family?

My grandparents, on my mom's side, I was really close with them. I lost an uncle, I wasn't really close, I wasn't close with them, but it was one of those. I mean, I've been very fortunate that I have not really lost anyone close to me. So, the closer it would be my grandparents. My parents are both living, all siblings, all cousins, aunts, and uncles. They're pretty much all around. So aside from my pets, which, you know, those were losses, but I, you know, usually okay after about a week or two, and I was. So I don't carry with me. It wouldn't be like my, it wouldn't be like losing my mom or my dad or my brother's first for that

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and not to sound awful, but I'm like, well they're old. I mean, I was super sad I was like I can't believe life ends what the fuck is this bullshit I know like 10 I'm like this is bullshit but they're like wow people go and I'm like what but you know they were it wasn't like my younger brother yeah all my grandparents lived into their 90s, except for my grandfather and my father's side who died of mesothelioma. So that was, you know, I was caused by his bestest. So he probably would have lived a long time. So I think I'm already immortal going back to our previous conversation.

But it was one of those things, right? Yeah, when they passed away, I mean it was kind of... I mean it was all, I mean natural causes for the most part. But it kind of seemed the right time, you know. It wasn't traumatic. It wasn't sudden or unexpected. It was just when I was like, um, okay, yeah. I mean, it was getting around that time. So it wasn't traumatic like, and again, like you said, it wasn't like my parents or anything. Yeah, that's definitely the difference.

But I do know that that should make some profound impact. I mean, I don't have to have gone through it, through it to know, because I've seen and talked to so many people that have lost people like that and it does have a profound impact. It could be life changing for some people. Really makes people reassess. Well, yeah, I mean, this is what Steve Aoki sounds like he's done.

He's just, you know, he talked a lot about stem cell stuff. Now Joe, he's had some real bad shoulder injuries, other things, but he's training us, like a motherfucker, so he's gonna get injured, you know, figuring out stem cells, getting it done, going to the top people, and Aoki is doing it too. That stuff sounds fascinating to me. I don't have really injuries that are constantly nagging me. But I still want to just, well, it's not that bad. Okay, let's go. I know other people's, it's frustrating, but some people are plagued by some of their injuries.

Like it stops them doing things. I just keep doing it, and it is paying for it. Right? But stem cells, I take them. I get them in. Like the things that we're hearing. Do you, have you heard of this place life's lifespan place in Santa Monica? I have actually, but tell everyone, yeah, somewhere they talked about and I'd never heard of it. I didn't know we had somewhere right here. I discovered it two weeks ago because I was looking,

stem cell hair loss treatment is a new thing. And I've talked about it on the show beforehand where they inject it with stem cells. There's two types. There's the one from, it's not from fetuses. It's from babies butts. Yeah, it's not, no, it's not from babies butts. Although I don't care. Give me whatever. Just let me grow hair. It's not from fetuses. It's from babies' butts. Yeah, it's not, no, it's not from babies' butts.

Although, I don't care. Give me whatever. Just, let me grow hair. It's fucked up. No, they, I don't remember what it kind, but they inject it right into your scalp and it grows new follicles. It doesn't, you know, tell your old follicles to start growing hair again. It grows new follicles.

That's one type. And then the second one is they formulate stem cells from your hebe globin and they inject that into your scalp as well, but that doesn't show as promising results as actual stem cells. But I've been looking at it really. Oh really? Yeah. Huh.

Is it super expensive? One treatment looks between 3, and 4 grand so oh Jesus It's expensive. Is that the same for like your shoulders or like muscles? Not sure. I didn't look into that part Probably because they expense is the stem cells. I mean, they're just expensive because you can get whatever you just put them Whatever I mean, they're like little genetic nanites that just go fix shit, you know what I mean they're just expensive because you can get whatever you just put them whatever I mean they're like little genetic nanites that just go fix shit, you know what I mean? But that to me sounds like witchcraft. I know. How the fuck did they even know what to fix? If you put them in an area where nothing even hurts does it get even better?

That's a good question. I don't know. You have to wait until something breaks Like maybe you just inject them like into your dick and it's twice as big. Well, and then that's a worthy topic for research. Let me tell you. I don't want length I want girth. Do you have stem cells that do that? Do you have the girth stem cells, please? I mean, I'm such a novice and you're more the scientist than I am, but it kind of sounds too good to be true. Because they only exist in fetuses for the most

part, or in things that have to do with reproduction and birth, it kind of sounds like the builders. They're the labor force building your body. And then once the baby comes out, they're like, okay, we're done. No need to exist in this creature anymore. Because we've built the whole thing from the ground up kind of thing. But now you put it in, you're like, oh, here are things that need to be taken care of. I put, I'm also an idiot, so I don't know what I'm talking about. But it kind of, it felt like you might be right, man. It kind of feels like there was a legitimate scientist saying this shit is fucking great. My only concern is it sounds a little bit like Chinese medicine where you just like have an earache they're like e garlic my toenails have a fungus

in e garlic right my nose hurts e garlic I'm like well hold on because none of the medicine we use in the west that we are developed with the FDA in the last 50 years works like that right right and even if some of that is horrendous for us, it's not like one thing sorts everything out. Right. Well, I mean, the guess is an anti-barathic. Well, there's definitely, I mean, I've taken herbal compounds for, you know, conditions in the city. STDs, yeah, for, and they work, I mean, they work as much as any, you know, prescription

I've gotten. So, there's definitely something to them, but I'm fairly certain all these stem cell procedures are FDA-prooved. They've gone through the clinical trials. I mean, I think they're out there. I mean, it's not just, it's not like supplements that you buy, you know, at 1.30 in the morning when you're watching Comedy Central. You know what I mean that that that this is tried to treat research they've been doing for over twenty years now well a lot of it's not legal in the u.s. though

no shit it isn't california for whatever they they have some in yes i'm here i think in vegas right it's been a it's been a real struggle on sure on that stuff legal which seems crazy to me unlike why would you want to stifle anything? Because of that they came from a board of fetuses a lot. When it first started the trials, they were all from a board of fetuses because that's where you could get us to know where the place to get it from. When it when they first began, yeah, now they pull it from they can pull it from pull it from they can pull it from placenta or something like that or is it the umbilical cord um so I mean it's I don't know we're too stupid to even speculate I've read about it

and I forgot but I think it's from the thebilical cord or the or the placenta something like that oh I know they're getting it they don't even need to get it from like a baby they might not I know the clinic we're talking about in Santa Monica, was very specific that they did not pull them from fetuses. Oh, well, you know, I don't know. I wish they had not worried too much about that when they first discovered them and had an extra 10 years of sort of research.

Maybe have a cure for Alzheimer's or ALS or any of those fucking horrible disease Parkinson's I mean because they're thinking that stem cells could be the key to curing those things eventually huh Well, yeah, I mean Steve aoki is interviewed some fascinating people about this in Joe knows a lot of these guys too and He's all about it. He is into it. I guess he's gonna go to visit the UFC doctors. They know a lot about this as well.

And I don't know what sort of injuries he's had. He didn't really get into it. But I'm almost I'm almost starting to think that these guys and gals that have money and not even going and getting this for injuries. They're just so sure that it's like the shit. They leave feeling great. You can have a stem cell blood transfusion. Yeah. And that sounds crazy. Rich people are gonna do all kinds of whack-ass shit. They're gonna get more stuff. Yeah. I'm going back to Joe. I want to say it was his knee. I felt like it was his knee. Oh, he's no, he's repaired his knees, but he got cadaver ligaments put in which are actually stronger because they take him I think out of the ankle and then put him in the

knee like it's like an Achilles to an ACL and then your ACL is stronger, but that even is kind of research, I mean science that we're moving away from because now we have all the stem cells stuff. It's overtaken it for a, but that's kind of cool though, right? I'm actually at a time. I mentioned being able to repair ligaments, like no picture would have to have Tommy John surgery anymore. They get a stem cell injection in their elbow and six months later they can pitch again. That's crazy. Yeah, but if it was, if it's, if you do it that way, right, and it's just as strong, that's nice, no surgery. But if you do it that way and it's stronger, therefore using cadaver ligaments, then that's even better because it's twice the strength.

Yeah, I'm sure about it. I mean, that's, or like whatever it is, I think it's just much stronger than, well, that happens in a regular ligament on your leg. In baseball, because when they have only collateral ligament replacement surgery, they think they'll pull one from the leg or or something and usually you come back stronger and they usually get a couple of miles per hour on their fastball.

They usually come back with increased velocity by two or three miles per hour. Well, how long is it going to be before they purposely blow out their elbow? Sometimes there's been talk, and I don't know if it's been taken seriously, but there's definitely been discussions about people simply getting Tommy John surgery, because that's the first guy that ever got it, getting owner collateral replacement surgery before they even blow out their elbow, because they're like, you're going to eventually, let's just do it now. It'll come, you'll be stronger, and you'll have it out of the way. That's kind of nuts. But who wants to, but but at the same time you don't want to go

under the knife when you don't have to because that's still very invasive surgery. That's not that's not like arthroscopic anymore. They're digging in there. They're moving. Well true but true but I mean how long until it's actually not that big of a deal. It's just like some sort of laser, you barely even know, you do it at CVS. It's like sticking your arm in the blood pressure machine that they have there, while you wait for your girlfriend to go buy whatever the fuck she's buying it.

You can't be bothered to sit there. She's like, oh, I'll push this. And then it's like, BB BB BB, there we go. Right, please change the ligaments in your shoulder. And they're like, oh, they're 400% stronger. Yeah, or they're like, please select your stem cells. the ligaments in your shoulder and they're like oh they're 400% stronger. Yeah or they're like shoulder to you.

Please select your stem cells. Yeah. Yeah. How strong do you want to be? Exactly. Do you want to have fire that shoots out of your hands? Yes, I would actually. Yeah, that would be amazing.

Would you like to be immortal? Do I have a choice? Do you know? Imagine all the immortal people picking on the guy that was like I don't want to be immortal. Do I have a choice? No. Imagine all the immortal people picking on the guy that was like, I don't want to do it. You're like, fuck right. Idiot. Oh, what a pussy. Everyone's like making fun of him.

You going to hell. There's only hell, bro. It's like, what? It's a terrible. I just want to go. Yeah, no. One of the cool things that Steve was talking about is he has an original, so he has, he talked about his like mega home that he built, which was awesome. He's got a lot of money, he has a phone pit, he can jump in his pool from his bedroom,

like he's a kid, you know, he's a thief. Like I love that though, but I love it, right? I think it's great, like we were all fantasized about it. I did exactly that. And for anyone to be like, oh that's immature, that's bullshit. Hell no. You shut your mouth. You just never have that fucking opportunity. It would be great. Absolutely. Everyone would like that.

We all want our childhoods back anyway, because we don't, because you know, youth is wasted on the young. So what are we doing? We're just, we're just living our lives for this fleeting moments that we can feel like a kid again. You know what I mean? That's what I'm doing. I mean, my girlfriend laughs at me because when I get stoned on Sativa, I become a kid. I'm just like, I'm like an eight-year-old kid. I laugh at fart jokes and dick jokes. I mean, I do that anyway, but I just act like a child. And I feel like, I guess I kind of feel like I am a child at heart

And I would challenge you to laugh at those things all the time. Oh, yeah, for I mean I do but I'm I act more like a kid when it happens Well, he went he went and bought an original piece of Banksy art Right, I heard a Banksy right yeah, I'm talking about Banksy and now Banksy is from Bristol Bristol is from where you know, that's where I'm from and We've known about him Almost my whole life as far as I can remember sure. I mean on 37. I don't know how old Banksy is he must be in his 50s We don't know who he is yet, right? What no no no, no, it looks like right as far as I know. There's a theory that... And there's a theory I read that he's like one of the members of the gorillas, which is like a music group.

I was reading about that. Look that up. I can't speak about it in Intelligent. Look it up. Dude, I feel like it's bullshit in today's age that we don't know who Banks is. But I love that we don't. It's super cool. I love that we don't. I love that we don't. It's super cool. I love that we don't. I love that we don't.

He's so badass. I've seen multiple pieces of his work, even into London in like very expensive places to live. Right. And he just drew on a wall and then they like kind of plexiglassed it in because now it's worth so much. Right. Like made the house like twice as expensive. Mm-hmm. Dude, unbelievable. But what I love about it is they talked about the shredding of the artwork that he created.

Do you ever hear about that? No. So some art, and I'd never heard of it either, but some art was sold like Sotheby's, one of the big auction places, and it was just like a original Banksy and a big thick frame, and as soon as it was sold and the deal went through, it turned into a shredder, and it just shredded the picture. Holy shit I yeah, I think only down to like halfway Oh wow what an incredible idea that is that's insane Yeah, it's the most anti-snobby thing I've ever heard and that was entirely by design that was like there

I yeah, I guess so I'd never heard of it either wow by design that was like the yeah I guess so I'd never heard of it either wow It just seemed to me like what a fucking brilliant thing to do and that's why that's the his style though I've always loved it. I always absolutely love that dude. Yeah What did you think of aoki not doing any drugs and not drinking ever since he had his like freak out acid attack after he was, what was it, 13? Right. Like, I just can't imagine being like a straight edge. Dude, but also like the biggest DJ in the world.

I get it after like people that like have freak out and like that type of trauma that I I understand more like Then if you just made a decision like I'm just never gonna do any of this I'm gonna be a T-tockler and never do this even though I'm going to the biggest DJs in the world that's more suspect But being freaked out like that. I totally get it. I totally get it It's kind of wild and I applaud the shit out of him for being able to hit with his stick to itiveness that he was able to do that with all the sources of elicit material they could possibly encounter and he's unfettered freedom because he's rich as fuck so that's even more impressive to me like I get it I get it. What do you think about it?

Yeah I mean I'm with you. I think it. What do you think about it? Yeah, I mean, I'm with you I think that it it's like almost less suspicious because he had this very traumatic events Exactly and I'm less likely to be like what a what a dummy like try some shit like expand your mind Yeah, you know, I think there's something we said about don't fucking do acid when you're 13 I think that's it as a general rule. I think that's a pretty good one. Maybe don't do any drugs for your 13. Maybe wait until your older when your brain has more of a handle on things.

Yeah. But I get it, man. I mean, the drug you have when you're 13 is sugar. Exactly. Keeping sugar. That's all you're allowed. Eat your twinkies. Eat some sugar. If you're super bored That's all you're allowed. Eat your twinkies.

Eat some sugar. If you're super bored, have one of your friends spin you around real fast to get dizzy. But until that, then figure out like girls are cool and eventually, I don't know, have some drinks. It's the human condition, human condition to be curious, especially at that age, the adolescence. I mean, you were curious about everything. So, with somebody hands you drugs, I mean, we have no ability to, we have no filter on that. I'm only now getting to the age where I can go, yeah, I don't need, I don't need to, I don't need to know that. Like, when I had an MRI like two weeks ago, I never opened my eyes.

Because it was like, I don't know if I'm claustrophobic. I've never really been in a situation where I might freak out, but I'm going to remove even the temptation. I'm not going to open my eyes. I just won't even know. So I had no idea. I just imagined beaches and the woods and like how much I wish I was still asleep and What how the MRI sounded like fat boy slim from the 90s But I never opened my eyes, so I never freaked out. So I removed that curiosity, but when your kids You're curious about everything. I'm I don't know if I would have done acid when I was 13 But I definitely wanted to learn about shit. What about you? Well, you're so I think a lot of it just comes down to,

who's around you? I don't think you have a lot of choice. Like nobody offered it to me. I didn't feel very pressured. You know, in the weirdest way, I was kind of spoiled for like when I got the drugs that I did. They seemed to come at times that were like, I don't know if age appropriate is right there,

but they didn't come too early. And I never got exposed to like, I don't know if age appropriate is right there, but they didn't come too early. And I never got exposed to like the really dangerous ones. Like nobody ever was like, who's crack? Try some heroin. Like, just, I'm like, oh, what? Like there was, it was always, there was always just a dialogue of the people that are around that were like, oh, don't do that. But they were super pro like weed,

or obviously everyone's pro alcohol. And then, you know, pills would come in in the 90s, like we go into like raves and things. That would pop up. But you know, even amongst all the groups that, there was almost no one that I knew that was like, dude, I do 10 a day. Like what?

That's not good for you. It's terrible for you. I mean, people were taking like supplementing with like vitamin B12s to like produce higher levels of serotonin to offset the, I'm like, what are we scientists? You guys have done research on this? Yes, they are.

Like professional ravers. I was like, all right, cool. That's nice. That's not a bad. I guess I'll take that But yeah, what's I never really got exposed to drugs in the sense of people destroying their lives Mm-hmm. I never saw it that way. Yeah, and I know it's very doable. Obviously. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah But runs my family. I saw some lazy stoneers Yeah, I've seen plenty of some lazy. I see plenty of those. It doesn't work. But then when you think of his job too,

I mean, he's he's so close to the possibility mean they're, you know, they disappear. They're dying. Yeah. They take some pills, they're gone. Yeah. That party life is like, it's easy to get addicted to shit. Yep. It's prevalent. That's for sure. So to be sober through it, but still make it work and enjoy it, that's not a bad option. No, it's not. I have to respect him a little bit for that. I do.

Even though I'm like, maybe microdose sort of. No, I know, I know. Santa's a better gold guy. Yeah, Joe was trying to pressure me. Not pressure him, but like talk to him about that. But it was good.

I like the conversation. I don't know to him about that. Right. But it was good. I like the conversation. I don't know a lot about that, God, dude. But I feel like in the future, he's going to become a lot more than a DJ because his story was really fascinating, how he got to where he is and like his love for just discovering existence. It is really cool. So I was pretty excited about it.

And from knowing nothing and not thinking I'd be into it, that to me was definitely 7.5 out of 10 of a podcast. Oh, nice. It really was. And I would say if you're a fan of Steve. Probably be a 10, yeah. You know he is already. Yeah, that's gonna only go up from that.

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, give it a seven. Steve probably be a 10 you know he is already yeah that's gonna only go up from that exactly Exactly, yeah, give it I give it a seven you good. Yeah, I give it seven. I'm not fascinated by a DJ a lifestyle or DJs or anything But you're right the story was And that's one thing cool thing about Joe is that he gets past the surface level bullshit and gets to some of the nitty gritty, which I really enjoy He didn't yeah, he kind of steered away from the Music almost and like got into what he was into like real fast And I don't know if that's because Joe was not a Interest probably I don't know but he's the same as me. It's like you say he's fascinated by how people think He wants to know about that. He didn't give a shit about him spinning records. He gives a fuck.

Like yeah they just pressing play bro. We talked about pressing play. Yeah. That's right. All right. So the big one 1347 Neil de Grasse Tyson. Holy shit. What a pleasure to have him back. He is obviously one of the original really big kind of like non-comedy and celebrities the one on Rogan. Exactly. He's went on Rogan back in the day, a legend of a guy, I mean, what can you say? The most famous astrophysics dude ever other than maybe Carl Sagan. I would say so yeah. I would say that those two. Those are the two big. He has a new book. I now. Yeah, it's out in a month. Yeah, it's called letters from it's basically about letters from fans. I can't remember. I've read every one of his books like on that much of a nerd. I do find them fascinating and they really are interesting. Like you simply kind of lay stuff out and it's a fun read. It's a fun read for a star.

Do you have a star of physics for dummies? Yeah, yeah, it's good. I meant to lend that to you. Yeah, I need a bar from that. I want to. Alright, I'll bring it. It's good. It's fun.

You're like holy shit, that's crazy. I know. Yeah, no, I love. I love how I love how he explains things. I love how he explains science and he's so passionate about it. It comes across and everything he talks about. I don't think he's ever had a conversation with anyone where he wasn't passionate about the subject material. It's really interesting. He's so knowledgeable and he speaks and he doesn't talk to

down to anyone but he speaks in such simple ways that the layman can understand Which is what I appreciate about him for sure Yeah, and shows massive fascination like he's a physicist. Yeah, and he was talking about like how Water freezes yep, and when it does it expands But he like that's very simple to a physicist or a chemist. But he wasn't saying it away like, duh, how do you not know this, duh? He's just like really excited about the fact that it does.

Exactly. Like, this is why you can put him in front of children, or you can put him in front of a TED talk of other academics and he's able to do the same message and get it across. Like if he was talking about boiling rice with that enthusiasm, make it brilliant. He'd be like, we have a man, Uncle Ben, who has created rice and what you do with rice is you put it in water and you boil it. Okay, well how? I just love it. It doesn't matter what it is. We just talk about the expansion, the science, the boiling water. It would be amazing. And before you know it, you forget that you even talking about rice.

You like that? I want some rice right now. You do the same thing about changing a tire. Get into the physics of how rubber holds the air together. And the force that is required to puncture the rubber in a certain way. You're like, damn it, this is fascinating. It was interesting to me when he was talking about cherry picking of science. You kind of forget that happens,

but obviously with politics it does. Everyone's using an iPhone in the room, so nobody cherry-pick that. Right. Because it's very useful. But people would cherry-pick maybe, I don't know, the age of the earth. Well, maybe. Evolution.

Yeah, he's, I mean, global warming. Global warming, vaccines and GMOs. Hmm. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's really apt. I think that's a really astute observation. I've always kind of been wondered why GMOs were so hated as they were. And I guess it comes down to, do people think it's just going to modify them?

Like because it's genetically modified corn that one day they'll eat it and they'll just start growing corn for limbs and shit? That's always what I was like, what are you so afraid of? Hmm. Yeah, I wish I knew more about it. I just don't. But I know any scientist I know. And I have one who's professor at Pepperdine, a good friend, married her to her husband, performed the ceremony.

And she would go off about how GMOs aren't harmful and stuff. I can only listen to the people that are actually experts about it, and they seem pretty good. Well, that's generally a good move, right? Absolutely. And GMOs are different from hormones. That's different from having, you know, chicken that's filled with hormones because they want to make the chicken fat. That's a different thing than GMOs, which is, you know, genetically modifying things like corn to keep insects off of it. So you don't have to use these lethal pesticides to damage our soil, things like that. I think a lot of what comes down to it is like, we don't know what it will do. Right. But it doesn't seem to be really fucking a lot of people up.

So, yeah, I mean, I've seen no empirical data. It's like, well, does it make it okay? Is it bad? But you've got to prioritize your concerns. You know, really? I'm like, all right, but, you know, all we could eat non-genetically modified twinkies. I don't know. I mean, that seems like a bad idea. I don't think there's anything natural in a twinkie.

Well, I true. I think it's all genetically modified. But no, but they said you can't even eat corn today. There's not genetically modified. I don't think so. Like none. Yeah. And then the weird thing is like, okay, but if we're all living longer than we ever did then Isn't that a weird thing to say like let's let's say that we've identified all these things that kill us right

Well when we die anyway, right which we all do sorry to say it folks We all do then the stuff we must be consuming At some point some of it must be killing us faster than others. Well, we've identified it all, but we're living three times as long as we did in 2000. I mean, not 2000, in the year zero. So now in the year 2000, in 2019, we can live to a hundred. Wouldn't we do those people be like, oh yeah, I'll take some genetically modified corn.

I'll just eat whatever you guys are eating and I'll live three times as long. And we'll be like, no, no, no, you can't have this corn because it will kill you. And then like, but you guys are living forever. And then we're like, no, no, no, it's probably our medicine. Right. But I don't know,

not everyone goes to the doctor. No, we're living on. I don't, I, I'm also not, I have zero expertise in this area at all, but you're making a various point. Like I have no idea what it does to our bodies, but I definitely know that there are people that are afraid it does some shift to their bodies, and it doesn't. That I know for sure. It's kind of the same thing with vaccines. People just hear you're putting a weak version of a virus in so you can build your immune system, and they immediately think, no, I'm injecting myself with this disease. On a lot of times it's actually a dead virus or you're just injecting the actual proteins that trigger an immunospecific response to that actual disease so you've built it up.

So they're not actually giving you the disease in any way, live or dead. They're giving you proteins that match it that will trigger your immune system to build antibodies for it. But people don't actually listen to that stuff. They don't study the science behind it. Or they hear that, you know, there's some mercury in it or whatever. And I say, get there's mercury and you're fucking drinking water. Like if you've ever opened your mouth in the shower and water's gotten in there,

you got a little mercury in there and chlorine and everything else. Like there's traits and amounts of shit and everything. Same with vaccines, but most people don't know how they work, so they're just afraid of what their brain thinks is gonna happen. Yeah, the vaccine one is real weird. Joe had a guy on, how long ago, about six months ago, I forget his name, but he was a specialist in like studying this and

He said the big thing was that they could see the precursors to things like autism Happening in the genes. Uh-huh before any vaccines were given to the child sure and that is Something that didn't he said even said, it didn't immediately hit the news. It wasn't like the top story on every station. It was just like, there's a lot of power behind the anti-vaxxer thing. Tons. Yeah, I, you know, I kind of get it too.

I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I have a kid, but if I had one, and then it seemed fine, and then my doctor was like given this thing. I mean, I think you're so protected. Of course. Protective over this thing that you love that fuck everyone else. Absolutely.

Like, I sit here with my opinions now. What am I looking after? I have like two plants in my apartment. Right. But when it's a little thing, I can see and then you connect because of the internet, you have the ability to connect with other people that have had this. And then I want to take the chance. Well you build up a force and you don't want to blame yourself.

Of course. Because that sucks. You don't want to be like, oh, it's my fault, he's autistic or whatever. Right. And, you know, so it's just like, I think we just drive our thinking that way but the more important thing is like Figuring out what direction it's coming from and when when the somewhat leading researchers are saying it doesn't seem to be this and Otherwise everyone dies of fucking polio right it might you know

otherwise everyone dies of fucking polio right it might you know smallpox or measles or moms are whooping cough or whatever that yeah yeah it's a yeah it's a weird one what did you think about what he said when when L.A. is not all solar that was fascinating to me yeah I did not thought of it like what, what the... what? What did he say? I can't... What did he say it wasn't? I forgot. Well, it's expensive. It's expensive, right?

You know, a different kind of like said everything. The batteries aren't great. The batteries, yeah, that was it. The better technology is still in its infancy in terms of that shit. Like, you just were not there. And lithium is degrades. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it, bro.

What? I think if everyone was like, I'm putting this shit on my roof, Elon Musk is gonna come up with a goddamn battery. Someone is- Oh, absolutely. If there's money to be made, that is a hole in a market that needs to be filled.

Well, that I agree. Someone would figure that out. Well, no, they got Tesla batteries. They do. They're like $7,500 bucks. You can absorb them into your home equity loan or your home or your mortgage or whatever. They're like seven. How much power do you need overnight?

That's what they say. They can't store things overnight. What power are you using? Open your window. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, what you can go for is. Have a fan that is a battery. Or big deal, use actual regular electricity in your house, then.

But only for the tiny amount that you need. Like you're not doing your laundry at 2 a.m. Well, I mean, you shouldn't be. No, the problem is, unless you've killed somebody. The problem, the more problem is that when you're getting solar power, you can only take in so much. The rest goes, and whatever you're not using goes back into the grid. But there's no sun at night, so you can't power anything.

But if you have the battery, you take that excess storage, it goes into the battery, and then it powers things overnight. That's what it does. That's what the battery is supposed to do. That's what the Tesla battery does. And you know, a musk has developed, Tesla has developed solar tiles. So it's not even, because one of the drawbacks that, you know, and you hate to say it, but it's the truth, people didn't want these big ol' damn panels on their roofs.

They thought it made their house look ugly. Now there's solar tiles. there's like four types of them um they last longer than regular tiles like they have like a warranty of up to 30 years and then the end result you will have saved more money than regular roofing um but they are they're solar tiles mixed in with regular tiles that act like solar panels the power battery the same way and you never would know That you have solar panels on your roof That's a way guarantee that roofing companies are super fucking pissed about those you better believe it

But you know what they're gonna be pissed when the world blows up and we can't inhabit the goddamn planet They want to business then either so they're only thinking about that next, you know. Of course. Pull that putting in or the next vacation. Hey man, roofing companies, learning how to install fucking solar tiles and you'll have a completely new job. And the more they manufacture them,

the cheaper they're gonna get. We're ridiculous not to. You're being the same person, if you could power your entire house off the sun Especially in Southern California and it's gonna start how well you Well, you know what's weird though. Yeah, my apartment. I've rent control. Yeah, I only pay gas I don't pay electricity Sure, so this sounds super lazy

But I would not need to do it under my circumstances and There must be other people that are in this situation. I know plenty of people have their own electricity bills, but it's like my water and electricity are rolled into one. Right. So I'm like, okay. But you're a sort of renter, you don't really have the option. Like you're landlord, you have to the building owner would have to do that.

Exactly. A lot of people, but a lot of people are renting though. You're renting, you're not getting solar. Well here's an option for those of you who are environmentally conscious, wanna go green, you do pay your own electricity in an apartment, you can go to LADWP if that's who you have your utilities through, and you can switch yours

to wind power, which I did. You can say, and it's only a couple of extra bucks a month, it's really negligible, it only a couple extra bucks a month, it's really negligible, it's probably like five bucks a month, you switch to wind power. If you're environmentally conscious and that weighs on you, you know, like it did me, switch over and you feel a little bit better about what we're putting on into the earth. You're not using power, burn coal. Wait, they pump in different, isn't it all coming in the same life? burn it you're not using power for a cold way they they like

pump in different isn't all coming in the same way i don't read now there are different sources and uh... no shit because we do have a deal with the bad guys we're gonna put that link in the uh... yeah for sure and there's other sources too yeah man so yeah another thing i loved and this is uh...

this was near and dear to my heart And I'm listening and talking because we're talking about how That all the molecules and the area you breathe there are more molecule molecules and like That one breath you take Then there are breaths in the world or something like there's something it was like It was one of those astronomical things. Like when Carl Siggin used to say there's more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand. Billions.

Billions. Billions. And then he was like, so when you're breathing, you're breathing the air that Socrates breathed in the air that Genghis Khan and the air that, and I was like,

he's just naming motherfuckers from bill and ten sex in adventure and then and the road was like a place i was like no i mean brother like that is no i'm you ruin my bill and ten sex in adventure reference i was like oh i'm nailed it i was sitting here i loved i loved the jodith it's true it was cracking me up me. That was my favorite fucking moment. But I seriously though, it's not even that I remembered. It's that recently, because they're making the new villain Ted, I've been watching different clip videos.

And that was one that I'd seen recently. I wonder if that was one Neil deGrasse. So recently. This probably is. I love that. I'm like, that's obscure. Yeah, brilliant though. That's so weird to think. Like, that's one breath of that. I like that's obscure. Yeah, brilliant though. That's so weird to think.

That's one breath of air. Everyone breathes. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm a boy. Alright, but it also is like everyone's fart. Exactly, everyone's urine. Hey, man, you're all connected.

It's cool. Everyone's urine I can deal with. Because I know that it's clean. Right. But everyone's fart. Everyone's urine I can deal with because I know that like it's it's clean right but everyone's fart Like it's it's their fart. I'm not in I'm just like oh I was surprised you can breathe all Neal was getting a little defensive right now and Joe called him out on a twice which it which was cool because they know each other They're friends. They're not really debating and Ne Neil doesn't like either and he stated publicly that he doesn't debate anymore he just says his piece I appreciate this and that's cool he brought them with the man just like the telescope on top of the mountain and Hawaii and he was

like I would just come in and out of my argument and let the cards fall where they man I was like that's pretty zen philosophy. I like it. Well, he's talked about it before, and I think that you get to a point where you just realize you're getting nowhere, but also this was a glimmer into why, because he gets so passionate about it, that he can't just sit back.

And Joe was like, all right, you're getting a bit into it. And I loved that they were able to kind of like, pick on each other a little bit. Like it really plays into their friendship. And when Neil the Grass talked about fishes, instead of fish. Yeah, that was fascinating. And then Joe called him out on that,

then Neil like explained that it's a multiple pluralism and then they got, I mean, that's a bit of an early conversation, but it's cool that they can give each other It's true. Well Joe and Joe's just like isn't the fish isn't that just the you know, but Well within his frustration though he talked about like Neil was like well you know I get heated I love this like I'm passionate about it my agenda is to build that You tell the scope on top of that mountain.

That's what I want. I'm a physicist. I think that's good for humanity. I'm going to push in that direction a little bit. I don't want to upset anybody and just destroy people's sacred land. But this should be built somewhere and I want it built. So I have an agenda and he asks, Joe, what's your agenda? Because you have this podcast that's massive, reaches everyone. What is the agenda? And I found it so fascinating for you to be like, I just, I can't have one. It doesn't matter.

You know, if anything, it's like for people to keep listening. Yeah, right? They spend... I don't know. I would be curious to know if his numbers like have would he change it or would he stop? Like they constantly improve so maybe that's the motivation. But to say that is kind of weird because he was very famous when he started and he had almost none for a very long time. I feel like there seems to just be something he likes to do. I just feel up. But I think he likes, yeah, I think he likes learning things and discovering things and

talking about things. And he's like, eh, we have pretty interesting conversations. Why not open this up to everybody else? And he also uses that to, I mean, he helps people out too. You know, he take his friends, the people he meets, he brings them along. He elevates them. So he may not feel like he has an agenda. the people he meets he brings them along he elevates them so I think they're not feel like he has an agenda I feel like everybody has an agenda when they wake up

in the morning you want to do something I think you're but it's but it's not like a cheese I don't think that I really do I think he's very I think he's there about helping people and building things and I mean that sincerely it's not I'm not being fan-boying out I truly mean that sincerely I think he just likes these discussions and thinks it might help other people as it helps him on will yeah the hundred thousand dollars an episode or whatever gets paid probably but he's doing it in a good way for that I mean agenda. Yeah, I'm a student. For that. I mean, agenda wise, I think people are watching closely and there's enough people listening to where they would, you know, see if there was any weird agenda,

but it just likes having a chat. It doesn't like, it doesn't mind picking on these guys. And that was great. It was fun to see. It was fun to know because Neil de Graz's Tyson is such a fucking super shabby. Yeah, he's cool shit. and for him to come in and like You know be able to have a good

Conversation with Rogan and and they were points where Rogan didn't know about ice expanding other things But he didn't study this like what would he know this? Yeah, I think that's a beauty of it I did a biochemistry degree. I'm not gonna sit there and be like what a dummy like I had to do this There's a million things that he could talk about and but he sits there learns he's like okay And I like about him is one of the things he sits back He doesn't think he has a handle on everything. How many times you meet somebody thinks they know a fucking everything about everything Dress me crazy Yep, no, I'm I I'm freely admitted my no-sit.

I like talking about it. I like talking about it. God, so much. But yeah, it's brilliant. It's, it's, it's really good. And it, Neil has that too though. He has like, he's obviously super smart. You know he is.

He knows it. And he's in a position of like extreme authority with knowledge. And he's, he's a very humble. And I, he's just God is And he's very humble. And he's just, God, is he always good? He's like such a charming dude when it comes to conversation. And I have to rate, dude, this one's in the 9s.

This is 9.2573. The only reason I don't give it a 10 because Neil would talk over Joe sometimes, and I was like, no, I want to hear Joe's's gonna ask. I think he has something interesting to bring up and Neil just kind of bulldoze over him and Joe let him good host I mean let his he lets his guest talk and I appreciate that but I was like But I feel like Joe's such an excellent interview I was like I want to hear the question because I think Gary answer will be really interesting

And I don't want him to lose that trying to thought. So I give it an I-5. It would have been a 10 if he just shut up for a minute. But not to take anything away from Neil. I think as soon as you get in Robyn's layer, he gives you that nitro turbo coffee and just gets you all ramped up. Yep. Yeah, he's just like, here's your liquid mask.

Exactly. That's good to town. That's good to town. Well anyway, folks, yeah, he's just like here's your liquid mask Let's go to town. Let's go to town. Well anyway folks. Thanks guys for listening longer one today and Mark for joining in giving me Some of your input on that. I think it was a good week of was it like interesting things to learn I mean a bit it was a heavy week. I like he right it was it wasn't a relaxing funny I like Heidek. Right, it was. It wasn't a relaxing, funny, chilled week of podcast,

but you know what, if you're like science minded and anti-aging and life expansion minded, there's a lot of fun stuff in this week. I really enjoyed it. All right, brother, thank you so much. And thank you guys for listening as always. Messages anytime, follow us on Joe Rogan experience for view Instagram You can message us there and otherwise we're told yeah