Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast - Joe Rogan Experience Review of 1326, 1327 and MMA 72

Episode Date: August 2, 2019

This week on the review we are discussing Maynard James Keenan from Tool, Mike Baker from the CIA and Andy Ruiz the first Mexican heavy weight boxing champ. Enjoy my review folks! Follow me on Insta...gram at www.instagram.com/joeroganexperiencereview Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ilK4Zrqk2ZeowbOo7pXgw? Please email me here with any suggestions and questions for future shows..

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Hello and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. Uh, joined again by Mark. What's up baby? How you doing buddy? Good, how are you? Mark is in the studio today, we're not doing a phone call. How are my levels?
Starting point is 00:00:28 You're your levels, you shit. Barely understand any of this program. It looks the same. It looks like it's gonna work today. It's sexy. Yeah, so that's the difference now. We usually have Mark calling in, and then I combine everything.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Because we live in two different states. He lives in Santa Monica, and I live in the Valley miles away We can't even come together at all Ten minutes But today we are also joined by Jim Bean Vanilla Whoo that is assisting the show not not a sponsor was on sale on a Fisher. Oh, it was it's pretty good It's not bad, right not bad you buy six of them. It's even like a dollar dollar off. You really can kind of like Get a bit foofy with certain drinks and it's good. It's okay
Starting point is 00:01:14 You know what I mean? Like when people were adding vanilla to their coffee way back in the day was like He's this fucking idiot, but nowadays you barely question no matter how ridiculous a man's coffee is To a point to a point to a still a point where you're like this coffee is I'm like you get three requests Yeah, anything over that I'm like Die a little bit, right? What is what is one of the stupidest things that you could when someone is like in between fat-free milk and like To be saying to make a cold boy No foam latte, vanilla sweetener on the side. Is sweetener on the dish. To the pork attorney, please.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Like yeah, bitch, you'll need one. Yeah. Shot on the side of sweetener is unacceptable. It's cool. You know what? It's so funny, because Breastas look at me like, I am a messiah because I'll have some Coffee black. Yeah, basically black like my whole gray hot. Yeah, pretty much
Starting point is 00:02:12 I'll be like yeah ice coffee things a little room. Yeah, and you know They're chick before me with like holding her like it's my service dog That thing hasn't been trained to do shit, but she looks good in yoga pants So like I forget her, but then she has like an 800 Year-long order. Yeah, and if you fuck God help you person making minimum wage plus $20 in tips a month If you screw her up she will make your life a living hell. Yeah, like I come in. I'm like coffee I'm like I love you. Yeah, you're more like, Patrick. What's his name, Stuart?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Patrick Stewart? Yeah, it's the nicest thing anyone's ever talking to me. Yeah, right, compliment. Oh, great, hot. I have actually, I have a mug that's, it's like the next generation consoles, and it says T-Rubberay Hot. That's it, that's how you need to order. In and out, quick.
Starting point is 00:03:00 That's it, that's how I do it. Go, go. John Picard style, thank you. Yeah. But with some things, like like what's the drink of the summer? These trullies the The fucking they're already my enemy. I thought they were my my friends. You get groups of guys coming in a sports bar That only sells beer and they are drinking those by the dozen and they've got no concern They're just like all of the mango one. I'm
Starting point is 00:03:25 like, when, how has this become masculine? Like, you wouldn't get full guys drinking Smurna of Ice. There probably is in, um, in Santa Monica. I think we have to understand that Santa Monica is a bit of a bubble. And what might be cool in Santa Monica isn't what they're drinking in recita. Maybe, yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know what they're drinking out there, but I've got a few nails. You're right. I've got a feeling these things are flying off the shelf.
Starting point is 00:03:50 They are all over. We sold out. The other night. It's crazy. We sold out. Like what? Just go mainly because I had several of them on the house and regretted it.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Have a beer. Have a beer the next day. Really? But anyway, Jim Bean Vanilla would take it today. That's fine. You can have a bit of Have a beer the next day. Really. But anyway, Jim being vanilla, we'll take it today. That's fine. We can have, you can have a bit of vanilla and you're Jim being. You can. Today's review is covering some diverse and interesting guests. We've got Mena James, Keenan, Toul, good friend of Joe. He's been on plenty of time, this podcast, 1326. We have Mike Baker, 1327, Mike Baker, of course,
Starting point is 00:04:29 the IAgent, also been on multiple, multiple times. I think both of these guys have known Joe for well over a decade, right? Which is cool because, you know, they, they, well, he knows the interesting people, but he also, I love to see the like, relationships build, like they know what they're going to talk about, they fall straight into it, they've got there, they've got their little way of communicating, Joe knows what questions he wants to get to, what information he can get out of them and what's not. And then lastly, another MMA show, MMA 72, Andy Ruiz, Jr. which I was pumped to get him on.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I wasn't sure if he was going to get on, but after the wilder went on, Tyson Fury, I knew that it was only a matter of time before the new Mexican heavyweight champ got on. Exactly. What a nice fucking dude. Super nice. He's just like a chubby train your fellow countryman sir. Yeah Teddy bear and 2000 of those coming at the border. Yeah, and my god I mean I couldn't be a big fan and he knocked the fuck out of our English champion obliterated. Yeah, absolutely destroyed him So yeah without further ado maynod James Keenan right boom. He has a new What other adieu? Maynard James Keenan. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Boom. He has a new album coming out. He's releasing some new songs for Tall. That was released on this podcast. He talked about it, he said, hey, I'm gonna let the fans know right now. I tweeted it out, which was cool. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And obviously the podcast comes out a few days later. Right. So it gives them a little bit of a heads up, which was a bit of a respectful up which was, you know, a bit of a respectful move, I think, to his fans instead of them having to wait for his announcement on Rogan. I guess he's releasing his entire fucking music library on Spotify now. Was it not on there before? I thought like everything's on Spotify now. Yeah, it was not all never full. I thought like everything's on Spotify. There's some holdouts.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh, I didn't know that. I guess just everyone I look for seems to be on that. There are some holdouts. There was sometimes you do look for a song and it's not there. Yeah. It depends on who owns the license for it, which, you know, because there's still people that don't.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And I guess, I mean, I remember the big controversy in the day back in Spotify was kind of replacing Pandora because you create your own playlists and Taylor Swift didn't want wasn't gonna let her music on there. She was like absolutely not you have to be terrible. Well, yes, and Like her music hate her music, but she was like no pay me. Ah, and I you know it. I get it. I get it. Yeah So I think there's some holdouts for that same reason so they don't pay him very much I Don't know enough about it to speak intelligently on it, but that's the feeling. I get oh, okay I get the feeling that they're not compensated well or that it's I mean, I don't know do they get paid for it to be on the radio
Starting point is 00:07:20 No, it's like it's own promotion and always the album they do get paid to be on the radio They oh yeah, it's it's own promotion. And it's the album, right? They do get paid to be on the radio. Oh yeah, and it's licensing. Because you got to pay licensing. They have to pay, you know, it's like 20 cents of thing, you know, whatever it is. So it's come to the same thing. It all adds up and they have to do like the accounting for it. Yeah, I work for a radio station for a year in college.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, I think that maybe when, you know, what, what people get worked up about Spotify is maybe they've just figured out a way to like completely undercut that number. Maybe it's like not even the radio level number. You know, it's like 100 times less the amount that they pay you, yet the exposure is 10 times as much. So you decide what you want.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Someone like Taylor Swift does any more exposure. She wants to be paid. She's pretty much, she's like, yeah, she's as big as she gets. So pay me. And they're like, we're not gonna pay you. It's gonna the same thing with Netflix, how, like, they don't release their numbers.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Nobody knows their numbers. So is that right? Yeah. What is it about that? Like, for example, even with this podcast, iTunes doesn't release how many people subscribe. I can guess Based on what we get daily down based on the hate mail. Yeah, right? I'm like oh again popular. Oh, we have five new hate
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yes, but they don't make girlfriends. Yeah, right. They don't they don't release that information And I guess information is power so you don't want what I have this but power for you and for us exactly so why is it is it also power to keep that information? Yeah secret? Well I mean in the same way if I mean think about you know GM they don't you know if they stop telling you how many cars you built the workers might go well you know you'll boss I made a twenty thousand dollars last year no well may I make more not telling you and they can't use that as a negotiating right chip that's a good point okay so so that's why knowledge is power and withholding knowledge is uh fucked up their assholes they're assholes who isn't me who isn't who isn't but tool tool of tools Well, Maynard is also a Jiu-Jitsu badass, which is I'm sure probably one of the big things that him and Joe
Starting point is 00:09:36 Kind of bonded over you know, he said he's older now So he's had some major injuries. He started doing more. He was talking about which is fucking cool Like to go out and do that at his age He's probably not taking shots though. He's not getting punched to the head He kind of alluded that he stays away from heavy spying But I kind of feel like you reach an age really I don't get punched in the head anymore I know what is that 52? Yeah, 52 is like I'm good dude, I never wanted to get punched in that.
Starting point is 00:10:05 No. There's never an age where you're like, this feels okay. No. It's really, and it happens you're like, did I just get punched in the face? Oh, dude, you'll go home on a light spying day and your head is ringing. Yeah, that's a part of you body you don't want to hit around.
Starting point is 00:10:21 No, you protect that. Even football, do you play football ever? No, my dad wouldn't let me. Oh, good. He was at it. My dad would watch nuns versus priests in a football game. Like, he would watch any football game that was ever on, ever. And it's like one of the reasons I don't really
Starting point is 00:10:42 even enjoy football today. Right. I know a lot about football. I know way more about football than some of the hates football shit but But he wouldn't let me play because he knew how dangerous it was he wasn't Nope, you're not gonna do it and then by the time it got to the age where I like I could decide for myself I'm gonna do this shit, right? Well, you hadn't been playing all the time so that'll help you No, and I just didn't I didn't care. I'm like, and I would be a fullback
Starting point is 00:11:07 because I wouldn't have been interested in that. I would have been like, I score or I do nothing. Cause that's fascinating. Because as a fan, you know, you would think that you would fantasize that you want your kid to play. No. But yeah, it turns out that really, actually I really appreciate it. It's the one thing
Starting point is 00:11:25 he did right. No, I'm kidding. He's not listening because he would never be able to figure out how iTunes works. But no, I actually really appreciate it because I'm glad I wasn't subjected to that. I would have been fine. I was a fine athlete. I wasn't great. I was good swimmer. But yeah, I swam and played baseball. It's small to him to know. I mean, was he was like, no no your bones aren't fully developed I'm not no, we're not doing that Yeah, and I don't think people that watch martial arts or MMA think in the same way and they you know people that aren't big fans of
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean boxing you would I think people have known that that fucks are for a long time and there are plenty of dads that will be like no You know, I'm gonna be boxer but with being in the UFC other than it's a long shot And it's a professional athletic pursuit like anything else. So it's very very difficult It's there I don't think it's gonna lead to a lot of Long-term major damage as compared to other of long-term major damage, as compared to other sports, where there's also impacts and injuries. Right, I think that you get more brain damage from soccer,
Starting point is 00:12:30 from heading the ball over and over and over. I've really good that. It's not good. Things bouncing off your head is bad, whether they're balls or fists or bodies. You don't want to do it. You don't want balls bouncing off your head. No.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Never good. Unless, you know, no judgment. Net rights. Now, a big thing with Maynard, right, which I love, just any time he comes on, is Joe always talks about how busy he is. He's so busy. He does like hundreds of different things. He's got companies left and right while doing writing, while doing this,
Starting point is 00:13:04 while training to get to, blah blah blah and but he also has like these orchards where he does a lot of his own wine. That to me is like it's obviously a passion pursuit but you know here's the thing if you it let's say you became very very successful in whatever you pursued is what you love right so now you massively independently wealthy Do you diversify to like hot like do you just feel your time with to me like you're just choring yourself up That's kind of what feels I'm like if I'm doing that many things Am I enjoying any of them to the fullest extent? It's kind of like it really is kind of jack of all trades master of none Like if I'm doing that many things, am I enjoying any of them to the fullest extent?
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's kind of like, it really is kind of Jack of All Trades Master of None in a way. But I would rather- He's a master in shit for sure. And that's cool, because he has a goddamn time. Yeah, he's good, but I'm just also like, well, ah, it doesn't it? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:01 It seems like it sounds like a whole chase for projects. It's like it's like a petrol chase for projects. It's like to have things done and completed and over. It's like I wonder if he can really relax. That would be my guess. Maybe relaxing to him is doing all that. I mean, each of us gets off in our own way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, it's got to be something like that because you can tell in Joe's voice that he's almost Exhausted listening to how much I just did listening May not get started just brought up like vineyards and like what I just All the nuances of it like whether he was talking about he's like whether it's too dry or whether there's a lot of foliage And then that dries out and then there be some big fires and then we'll be late to get our wine out And I'm just like dude you run a massive band. It's crazy and you're right I mean you've got a lot to do he made
Starting point is 00:14:56 How much fucking wine money are you making machine? We're he just like freezes time and that's when he sleeps He's like I'm good for 24 hours. I think that I don't know how these people do it. Well, I think that Joe is fascinated by them. Sure. You know, anyone that he thinks maniacs does something that that he can't do, he wants to know why. And he also wants to pursue it in the way of like, oh, is this making you more happy? Should I push myself to do this? or are you exhausted and kind of stuck in your own trap of like infinite projects and it's one of those goal understanding endeavors that you have. I would dabble in anything that
Starting point is 00:15:41 sparks my imagination for a time. But and this is the old adage in Hollywood get something while it's hot because creators, movie, stars, directors, loose interest really fast. You gotta grab them and keep them. And I feel like I feel like I'm that way in the sense of like grab me and keep me and I'll be really fascinated and I'll devote every aspect of my being to this. The minute you I kind of get away from it, I'm like, and good like I this woman talked to me about writing a music project for like a music video and um and I was interested
Starting point is 00:16:19 and I gave her my quote and then I didn't hear from her until and this was like a month ago until two days ago I got an email saying oh so sorry I meant to send this to send this and I didn't hear from her until until two days ago I got an email saying oh so sorry I meant to send this to send this and I didn't hit send yada yada yada and I'm kind of like I don't care anymore right I'm like and she was like and then she was lowballing me and I wrote back and I was like oh well I'm only gonna do it for this and you want to do it for somebody that if you want to hire somebody for less go right ahead you get what you pay for. I literally was daring her to not hire me and she called my bluff she didn't hire me but I
Starting point is 00:16:54 didn't care I didn't care because it's like oh it's over. So maybe it's that kind of thing it's like I just creative endeavor to and creative endeavor whatever is in front of him is like this is what I want to do this is what I want to do and then the next thing this is what I want to do this is what I want to do and then the next thing is what I want to do Yeah, what's unlimited resources right so you get into something. I think that I would just Be changing my mind so quickly that I would be very careful about what I Invested my time in though. I probably would have like a big grow operation somewhere That was sure That would just be for personally definitely definitely I can believe that Maynard said that he didn't smoke weed
Starting point is 00:17:31 I can't believe it is that to me was he says he just gets too paranoid. I'm like Yeah, I mean we've been that he just needs to practice Right start with some CBD work your way in start with some CBD get some CBD joe's doing a ton of CBD at the moment like he's worked into just doing a shit ton of it I recently have got into the hampoil extract which is what your girlfriend got me onto that Katie did and she brought it in and I remember when I ordered it, I was like, there's no, I know, what done, what done.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I met her. So it was like, hey, why is this not CBD? So then I googled it and looked at it. It's a very interesting, I will say, supplement to take. Since it technically was never illegal. That one's always been fine. CBD is still a little in some places. People have some issues with it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 There was that one chick that got like a grandma that was arrested near a border for like having CBD which is insane but but hampily or extract never has been and you can do enough of it to feel well Joe even talks about he goes I didn't know that I had anxiety until I started doing CBD. For real? And then you feel like a level of relaxation. I would. I would take CBD before I go to bed and I would wake up like it was Christmas morning.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'd be comfy in my bed and just like, this is wonderful. I'm just relaxed. It's a beautiful, I do wonder if it fucks with your rhythms of sleeping though, or like gets in the way you're dreaming and that sort of thing, like the rest of the portion of it, but... Probably dream too much, I mean. Yeah, but it's got to be better than just staying awake through the night.
Starting point is 00:19:17 100%. Those are the worst nights ever. Worst. Especially when you have something to do in the morning, you're like, oh, I'm just, I know I'm gonna have a fucking horrible day tomorrow Yeah, Joe describes it interesting. He had a great quote on the podcast that says doing that like high levels of CBD or even like smoking weed like that it goes it makes you comfortable with your own demise Like once the anxiety is gone. It's's like yeah we're gonna die eventually.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Sure. It's okay. We get on with it and we go from there. How much we do smoke a week, Mark? Lately, like, this is a legal question. This is fairly hard. Yeah, we're in California. Twice a week, twice a week, max. Oh, really? Yeah. I've just been so busy lately, I haven't really even had time. A couple, okay. Yeah, because I want to enjoy it. I don't want just like, smoke and go to bed.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I want to sit there for two hours and watch scrubs. Yeah, and there's definitely a point of negative return when it gets in the way of you getting things done. Yeah, I want you very carefully. I smoke a lot of weed. I only do it recreationally. I will not do it to like to get through the day to function or anything.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I like, but I like being sober to do the things I need to do. I want clarity. I want nice, you know, I want a clear head. And so I only do it recreationally. It'll be like 10. My girlfriend will get home. We'll take a hit each and So I only do it recreationally it'll be like 10 my girlfriend to get home We'll take a hit each and then we'll just watch some TV and I gotcha like any of them You know, it's funny. I used to that was a hundred percent how I used to be for a long long time You know that decades decade and a half and now it's kind of reversed like I don't wake and bake because that's not, I, there's something about that groggyness in the morning
Starting point is 00:21:10 that you gotta face, you gotta have a shower, you gotta get some breakfast, get a coffee, get going. But then I usually start, I usually start with some edible, this early on. What the hell you do? I'll do, you know what I'm like, I'll do that. But I watch my productivity really closely.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I monitor it almost every day. And I do, I monitor it every day. I watch what I do, I go to Jiu-Jitsu, I go to the gym, I make sure I write, I meet with people, we get podcasts done, you know, obviously, we're listening to Rogan's podcasts throughout the day too, so that like spreads out. And I try to pay as much attention to it as I can
Starting point is 00:21:47 because we're gonna talk about it. And I have to remember points of it. And some people can function that way. I can. I think with practice, I've been able to do it better. Now, it's like, obviously, if I don't do any weed in the day, it's not addictive. I can do it.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's fine. It's just more boring. I don't enjoy it. I'll be writing to the gym and I'll think of something funny. I'll just kind of either be laughing or just like really enjoying the moment. I'll think of like doing nice things for people or I'll see some people really aggravated and I'll be like, it's cool. Like, I don't get as reactive to frustrating events. Those things are all really nice. The downside is if you're doing it for those feelings
Starting point is 00:22:33 but you can't get shit done, that's a big problem. And if you're feeling a lot of anxiety, like, main I was talking, you definitely don't want to. No, it's not good for you. People shouldn't be feeling, if you're feeling super anxious. It's good to be a little scared, right? I like to get a bit stoned, get a bit scared, because it keeps me focused.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I'm like, okay, what am I worried about? What am I thinking about? I get paranoid, but if I'm at home, I'm usually pretty good. Unless I've somehow, it, like in some bout of idiocy combined it without a call, then that goes horribly wrong. My birthday smoked after I'd had a couple of drinks. And my girlfriend brought a these presents to me. And I was like, I had given her specific orders,
Starting point is 00:23:17 don't go crazy on my birthday because she'd been out of work for a few weeks. You'll know while. Yeah, well, definitely not worth it. But I didn't want her to overspend and then she came out with like seven gifts. And I freaked the fuck out. I was like, no, no, and I was like having a full on meltdown. It turns out it was just like tea and hot chocolate.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And it was all these, she wanted to give me a bunch of gifts, but she couldn't spend a lot. So she got me like a bunch of little tiny gifts, but they just come in big boxes and stuff It was so sweet and then I, but I had a full-on photo. So the Wii was having you freak out over there. Oh yeah, yeah, but I think it was the combination with the alcohol too. Well, I had to do it. And again, I really just think it's, it's like you actually get to practice. Like I practice every day being high. It was ridiculous. But it's like I, I've never actually tried to equate if I would get more things done in a productive manner,
Starting point is 00:24:13 if I wasn't. You know, there are plenty of days where I will almost forget I'll be too busy. I want to take an editable. But I get shit done. A lot of times you'll come up and we'll be talking and I'll have no idea you're still in like, dude like dude I took full edible before I came here. I have no idea where I am. I'm like I would I would assume you could fly a plane right now Yeah, there are moments there are moments and usually those moments where I say it because I'm saying it to myself True yeah because you're we all have There are moments where you have to really like get a hold of it But I'm not I'm not driving Anywhere I'm not operating. I'm not a stranger to anyone now Aside from the you know apart from the morons that we work with you can do everything just fine on it
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's actually the only thing that makes it weird is that you'll let the paranoia get all like whatever The weird thought is take you over so much that you're barely able to hold a conversation, but it's only because you're getting in your own head. Oh yeah, totally. You get out of that and then you get somebody asking me questions and I question and I panic. Yeah, you go into your self. Oh god, I don't know. You look all know as everyone says. Oh, they know I'm high.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Oh god, they're judging me. Is everyone thinking this about me right now? Probably not. Relax. Well, you know, they're probably not thinking about it at all. Oh, what do you think of this? At the end of their podcast, Maynob was talking about how on his wine lands, they would bring in one of those guys and he was calling them a water witching. Water witching where they have that that little they either have those like wires or
Starting point is 00:25:45 The sticks right across over the water and he's like Joe was like that's bullshit, right? I'm sorry and then Mayna was like I've seen it done three times What like is there really any fucking science behind this is there anything like if that works any fucking science behind this? Is there anything? Like if that works, there must be something we can detect. Like what the fuck would make that happen? I have no idea. I mean... Let's guess. Yes. Well, but let's just say there's water running under the ground, right?
Starting point is 00:26:20 Right. Deep. If water is, is it still or is it moving? It not gonna be a river is it we just be still so could it have like a different type of charge like it a electric charge well because if it's moving it could be making some sort of ground friction right and then that could change a charge that could maybe fold your the biochemistry well fuck that's this is physics for sure right but that's it I don't know why sticks would do anything. I don't really know what they use. But it sounded like Borscht Joe was not sold on this and I am not.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And Joe sometimes is sold on some shit that I'm like, really? Well he wants to, he wants to believe that the aliens are there for sure. We all want to believe that the aliens are there because if the aliens are there they definitely have no like plans for domination because they would have done it already. How worse could we get? What are you waiting for to invade us? Like have we not hit rock bottom yet? Would you feel safer knowing that aliens exist? Let's say that they were like uh there's straight up here. Right. And they're weird, they can't talk to us, well they do, but only a few of us, and they're like very stoic, and they
Starting point is 00:27:31 just, and they're here. Would you feel like, oh, we're gonna be fine? I don't think I feel safer, but I don't feel like I would, I mean, it's a hypothetical that it's hard to really predict how you would feel in that situation. I'm 100% with full safer. Yeah, because now we have space daddy. Space daddy is here. They're not just watching us kill ourselves. If you own to zoo, you don't have your fucking animals in that die. It's true.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'd probably be like, oh, finally an adult in the room. Please tell us how stupid we are. Oh, we already know. So, yeah, no, I'd feel better. Yeah oh, finally an adult in the room. You're right. Please tell us how stupid we are. Oh, we already know. So yeah, no, I'd feel better. Yeah, I would feel better. I think so. And if they wanted to wipe us out, they would. You know, they would.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Absolutely. And it would take five seconds. All right, we're going to have Jim Bean Vanilla into you. Boom. Real quick. And on that, that's actually a good transition. Or third hose. Should we always have like transition points?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yes. No. Too much work but no as transition points go aliens conspiracies boom Mike Baker yes CIA I really like Mike Baker he YouTube well he just he just is the type of guy that you know you know he he's a CIA guy he's a pro American kind of I think he's Republican he that he doesn't really push that end of it but you know like old school it's it's military right CIA is yeah it's a different the military ish it's a different kind of Republican. Yeah, right. But he comes out and he looks kind of like Alan Thick.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah, he gives a lot of what he can. And he really, I think he really wants people to understand the importance of the CIA, what they do. He gives some humanity to it because when you think of it, you just think like covert, you know, cloak and dagger, who the fuck are they? Sneaky bitches, running around, getting up to whatever they want, nobody's watching them, you know, I think a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:29:36 There are more nerds gathering intel. They gotta be nerds. That's what they are, the nerds gathering intel. By the way, CIA, for listening to this, I don's what they are the nerds gathering intel up by the way CIA for listening to this I I don't think you're actually nerds at all But well, but that's a compliment, but they nerds are smart. I mean, they're smart people They're and it's the intelligence agency. Yeah, if they didn't have neds we need to hire more neds Yeah, it's not like Hollywood where they're I I just don't feel like they're really that,
Starting point is 00:30:05 there's not really Jason Bourne's in the CIA. There's a bunch of guys that have, no, there is. I mean, you think so, I mean, they have special forces. Well, you know, you special force operations for sure. But I feel like Hollywood is certainly glamorized.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I feel like going back to, I feel like it's just a bunch of nerds, developing assets, gathering intel and, you know, and turning it and creating assets, things like that. I bet the guys out in the field, a badass. 100% of the time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You know, because they've got to keep that secret life. You ever read the Clancy novels, the Tom Clancy novels? No. There's a character real quick What's his deal did he it was he how did he know what he knew? Okay, so that's the big idea It's always the big been the big question cuz he always said he wasn't but a lot of people think he probably was In the same way like you would hold on though. Yeah, I'm sure you make it a shit I mean because these were factually, technically accurate.
Starting point is 00:31:07 He was spending chapters just explaining nuclear proliferation and cold war strategy, things like that. But he had this character who named Mr. Clark, who will be played by Michael B. Jordan and the upcoming film. And he was like an ex-seal that the CIA recruits. And this dude is a badass and he's in this book called Without Remorse, which is my favorite book of all time. And I kind of feel like that's a great title. Oh, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You know that that guy's about to fuck some shit up. That's the movie they're making. And if they're even work close to the the book, you're gonna love this thing. It's a lot like Man on Fire. You see Man on Fire? It's all about the favorite movie. Oh yeah. Hey, interesting fact, you know the mother of that
Starting point is 00:31:56 of the daughter, right? Who is like, go kill him. Absolutely. You know, she lives at the end of the street. Get the fuck out. Yeah, I've seen her a few and and I've chatted to a bunch She is attractive. God. She's she is my celebrity crush. Oh, I should have talked about her on the stand-up You have a lot of celebrity crush. Damn it. You could have brought up man on fire
Starting point is 00:32:14 She was a man on fire if he had a separate like he was doing his normal Mission right but then he had a separate mission rescuing POWs and like Vietnam. That's what without remorse is. And this dude is at his basically because this guy had been in all these books. He's starting like he was in Cardinal of the Cremlin, which is the sequel to Humphret October. They never made it into a movie, but it is the official sequel to Humphret October, the book. And he makes his first appearance there. And he's just this mysterious black ops CIA agent and you don't know much about him
Starting point is 00:32:50 and then without remorse is like his origin story and you learn everything and it is the coolest shit and it is just catharsis in 600 pages. Wow. And that's- He's got that shit out. Oh, it's a go- I'll own it too. I got like every copy. You have the okay good. It's like my catcher in the rye. I buy every copy I ever out. Oh, it's a go alone too. I got like every copy. You have the okay, good.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's like my catcher in the rye. I buy every copy I ever see. I love it. But it's like, this is what I imagine these dudes would be like. They're ex seals, they're ex-green beret, they're crafty, and they're recruited to kind of come be enforcers. And then you have the, you have the point dexter's, the suits that come in, they work with them, but these guys are the most. Well, that's, they're the number crunches, you know, they're the ones dexter's, the suits that come in, they work with them, but these guys are the most.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Well, they're the number crunches. They're the ones in the room, like compiling the data, sifting through SIM card, cold logs, and correlating this person called that person. So this one might know this person, it maps together, and it's like, that's unending, exhausting shit, but then you give this knowledge to this badass, and it's like, that's unending, exhausting shit. But then you give this knowledge to this badass, and you're like, there's 80% chance that
Starting point is 00:33:51 the guy that we need dead is in this house. You now figure out how to get in there. Also, here's some cool toys. This is one of the really interesting things when, remember when Mike was talking about the cool technology that CIA has? He can't talk about it but he was he said obviously we have it. He goes the funny thing is though when we were working is that they would be like oh we have this thing that can see through a wall but it's too expensive for you to take out on this mission. So you'll take in this old
Starting point is 00:34:20 shit that only actually listens to the sound in the room. So it's like even for them it's like even for them, it's like they barely release it because they're so worried about probably losing that technology. It would be very bad. They got to be real tight on it, but that would be frustrating. You're like, I'm already CIA, give me the shit. Imagine if James Bond went to CQ and they're like, oh, hello Bond. Well, we have this for you today and you can take this and this thing will allow you to be invisible, time travel, walk through walls,
Starting point is 00:34:49 and be invincible, and he's like, sweet, I'll take that. Well, you can't have it. But we're not giving that to. We're going to give it a yo-yo instead. We have this watch that's waterproofed to 14 favoms. He's like, well, what is a favom? The fuck you. Yeah, fuck you here. It's absolutely ridiculous But he gets the best shit they should be giving it
Starting point is 00:35:11 What do you think that they have what do you think they can do? I'll tell you what they can do right for sure while he talks about the deep fake stuff So now they're doing that fake face swapping. They can do they have a mission impossible, sir Well, no, they have a video now of Rogan talking about Sponsoring this new hockey team that's actually made a put chimpanzees and it's and it's like a very funny little monologue But Joe never said any of it. It's all just put together from words that he said and it's fucking perfect So think about it if they they're, if people are getting phone calls, right, from other, they, the bad guys, they're like, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:52 Afghanistan, Taliban, whatever. And they're getting these phone calls all the time from other higher military leaders that are like, oh yeah, go blow this shit up, whatever. Right. So then somehow we can like intercept that call and we put a fake call in telling them to like come out and expose themselves but this is like their new order right why the fuck were we not we're looking to that signal that's got to be more valuable than inventing new like bombs that with a like, what's up? Like, who are you? You can come phone number now. Yeah, but I mean, with the voice of it.
Starting point is 00:36:28 No, true. Like in an actual back and forth conversation, where it's like your mother calls you. And you're like, mom, are you serious? And she's like, yeah, I've been fucking all these dudes. And you're like, what, mom? Are you out of your mind? What is going on? What is going on? It's just your friend fucking with you with an app.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I want that. it can't be long It can't be like they can do all this. I mean there's a Thanks if they can do it on Star Trek you can pretty much do it now except for like beaming and warp drive Turned everything into else into it. Yeah, what would be the most useful a beaming is Transporting no, it's not okay. I'm gonna stop you right there. Oh, okay. It's death Like transporting no, it's not okay. I'm gonna stop you right there. Oh, okay. It's death Maybe it is you don't know how works in that show is all they do is they use you know how they make the food Right, they synthesize it. It's a replicate you have they take all the elements. Yeah, you have put it together Yeah, so they take your pattern right and then they replicate all the pieces
Starting point is 00:37:23 They just build you a get you dullied. They made you somehow you're conscious. No, you're dead. That's not true. I'm just a perfect copy. Nobody's thinking shit. I think I'm fine with it. Hold on, hold on. I'm ready to go. You get aggressive. You're getting Jim being level aggressive. I think that I think that what it is is is an acceptable loss because no one comes out of the other end, and they're like, I don't feel like me. They all do everything that they was supposed to do. It's true.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And it just highlights the absurdity of existence. But they wouldn't do it again. What do you mean? If they come back and they're like, oh, I'm clearly not the dude that jumped in the transport. But they don't know. They are that.
Starting point is 00:37:59 They feel the same, but that dude died. All women. But how do you know? Because that's how it would work. Sorry, I'm getting aggressive again. is like by definition I know I mean it's fiction so but but that's the idea of how they would do it and you get into quantum mechanics and quantum entanglement this the idea that it could exist it could be the same DNA in different points.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's not true. That would only be if they used quantumly entangled particles and that's not the idea of how these... Listen, I watched half a discovery. I would check it like we understand how to do this. I'm like, you listen to me, Mark. It just seems like a food replicator would be awesome. That's technology. Let's get that we could it with 3d printing food genius But if we had three it's basically 3d printing your girlfriend if they there was a machine
Starting point is 00:38:54 She steps in she dissolves and then we 3d print another one I'd be a little suspect of what came out the other end. I mean it depends on how much you would just You would just in that like, you see liquid. Right. And now we've printed you into a person. I don't trust it. I don't trust it. I have strong feelings.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Well, you know what? I don't think it's a concern we have to have. Well, the CIA would need to think about that. They're just beaming people into Syria. Yeah. I'm not the same guy. I'm thinking, I'm good, but just beaming people into Syria. Yeah. I'm not the same guy. I'm freaking out. I'm good, but my mission has killed us all.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah. Well, the face-wapping technology is something Joe has spoken about quite a lot. So Carl Donigan, amazing Instagram, hilarious dude, the Reno 9-1-1 guy. He does all the Caitlyn Jenner videos, obviously. What a rare end. And now he's working with this new guy.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I can't remember what Joe said, like Frankenstein or something. Like anyway, he specializes in making, like, doing face swapping. And he doesn't use that face swap app. He uses like a different program. But Carl Danganron has this one now and Joe was playing and it's Elon right and it's fucking amazing It's really creepy. It's very funny, too But it's very very quick. Do you know that is the one of the first applications of face swap technology? What it was for porn really yeah
Starting point is 00:40:20 What how like celebrity faces? Yeah, the put celebrity faces on like porn stars porn stars and like, oh watch Taylor Swift ride eight black Dogs no way really for real and it's pretty damn good. Oh, oh I mean I've heard how have I not heard you But how have I not come across is not like I'm familiar with this I will say later I have the wrong search patterns. Yes, you know, this is actually let me get back to something else that noise me you're surrounded by Alex's and then your phone can listen to you. Yeah, and then the Google Home can listen to you Yet you still get commercials the pop-up that have
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yet you still get commercials that pop up that have absolutely nothing to do with anything that you want to buy And this is the thing when I first When when people were first saying oh, they monitor all you shit all the time and you don't want that because it's your privacy Right, but then it starts happening and then people get annoyed well listen at least fucking get it right There's a lot of shit that I would buy. I promise you. Oh absolutely don't show me a tampon commercial and I'm not trying to be sexist because people just do that fine. You just don't I'm not gonna buy me a little light flow I have Ball you can use a pen for my girlfriend, but I don't show me shit. I want to buy even when I go on my Amazon app But I don't show me shit. I want to buy even when I go on my Amazon app with all their data
Starting point is 00:41:51 They're like what do you think about this new mop? How many fucking mobs of I ever bought? Zero you want to put that on that you want to you want to throw that through this is this is bad intelligence Maybe they're just hoping and praying that you Get into moss like clean. There's some algorithm out there that's like, this guy wants moss. This guy has a 66% likelihood to clean in the next week. Well, it makes me think that God, I hope the CIA have better data collection information than this. And I hope they're buying these mobs.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Somebody needs them for all the terrorists that are torturing. I think they think buying these mobs. He was somebody needs them for all the terrorists there to torture I think they think I'm somebody else They might what if there's another Adam Thorne out there who's just like a Cleaning guru a mob guru imagine if I can like put a profile together base like I literally feel like I know who he is And understand him completely just by the shopping suggestions he is identical oh Adam Thorne but uh... but an Audi which Adam Thorne the cleaning one but then in the fucked up way he's getting all of the suggestions that I actually want
Starting point is 00:42:59 and he has this profile put together of like and he's just a badass like jujitsu champion he's like I wanted to clean and now I'm just a man is just like a just got into jujitsu heavy I bought all this podcasting equipment I have like 12 kettlebells I don't even know what to do with them stand up then then neither kettles all bells or bells discuss but I have them anyway oh there was an odd part on the podcast with Mike which I neither Kettles or Bells. Or Bells Discuss. But I have them anyway. Oh, there was an odd part on the podcast with Mike, which I thought was quite interesting. He was talking about Brexit, right?
Starting point is 00:43:32 We'll talk about that now, but it repeated. It's like they went in and edited the podcast, but they didn't do a very good job of it. And it glitched this bit twice where he was talking about how the only useful people in Europe is like France and Germany. They're like holding up the EU and England can like somewhat separate from it and then he's like oh maybe I shouldn't have said that but then they repeated it twice and I'd never heard that. I'd never heard a glitch like that. I've heard some editing go on because they've had some times where
Starting point is 00:44:06 I'd never heard a glitch like that. I've heard some editing go on because they've had sometimes where the podcast like crashed And then they had to restart it, but Joe Joe doesn't edit shit, you know It's 100% why we don't edit it. It's not just because I'm too lazy and can barely edit It's because I think people just want to hear like that the free flow and if you say something fucked up and tough That's what you said, but I found quite interesting, especially because it's a CIA podcast and you're like, is there a conspiracy theory in here somewhere? Did they did what the CIA did? Did they? Dude, I didn't even know that Boris Johnson was the prime minister of England till I watched
Starting point is 00:44:43 John Oliver's, what is his show called last week? Oh yeah, last week tonight. Tonight. um... boris johnson was the prime minister of england till i watched john all of us um... what is the show called last week tonight really like that i didn't oh my god the fucking prime minister the country i was born in i didn't even know he looks like
Starting point is 00:44:57 he looks like a parody like like he's part of some hoax like you wake up from like a nap and your friends are like oh dude you asleep cryogenically for 30 years this is our prime minister and like they just found some fucking horrible Paul McCartney impersonator like he looks like he's woke up. He does.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He does. He has a lot of his hair is all the time. Oh my god. Ridiculous. That was a great young all of it. If you watch that one though. I haven't watched John Oliver in a while. Really?
Starting point is 00:45:24 You know I know that show. It's not that it wasn't into it. It was just sometimes the news is too much for me I think it overwhelmed and he seems to hit on the news. Yeah, but yeah, but I know but he seems to hit on things that are Really Infuriating and I'm like I just need to know a little less. You know the whole phrase, if you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention, well, I just wanna pay attention a little less. Because I'm just pissed off a lot. But you're like a political guy, you do.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah, no, I do. I do. I'm big into politics, sort of. At the end of the podcast when they were talking about, so I'm not gonna talk about any of the Brexit ship because it's tiring and who cares. Yeah English people do but it's just back to the Americans who were mostly downloading this podcast And and hopefully it all works out with the Brexit ship I don't know how they're gonna do it, but I've got a feeling that England will be fine
Starting point is 00:46:19 They figured it out. Look everyone wants to trade with them like there is just a country They find they'll it in equilibrium here. But coming up to this new election, they start talking about. And they're like, okay, so Trump's ready. He's gonna do it. Now, he's already president. So if you thought he was fucking arrogant before,
Starting point is 00:46:37 holy shit. Now, these debates are gonna be epic, right? As open-micers and comedians ourselves, we're not gonna mess them because it's next level shit, right? It doesn't mean that it's good, it's just next level debating in the most fucked up way. Who the fuck is gonna go up against? I'm not a political person, just like you said.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It's not that I'm ignorant with it. When I was younger I paid a lot of attention to these things and it was just another excuse for me to get mad and get stressed. Right. So I kind of cut it all out and I outsource it to people that I believe in that I like good friends of mine just like you mom. And I get like, you know, I have hunters in New Mexico that are good friends of mine I have plenty of Republican friends that I share about a lot of not a lot of my family I'm from a lot of liberals so I get I get a lot of sides of it and then to be honest I end up not voting most of the time anyway, so what I love people do over half Maths over half the people do so you know, so who the fuck is running against this guy? What what are we up against? I like that bird, Tulsi Gabbard.
Starting point is 00:47:46 You like Tulsi? I like it. My mom likes her. I like to, just from being on Rogan and how honest she seems and she's like, you know, she's her genius. We are at a point in a politics. We are at a point in our politics.
Starting point is 00:48:00 We are served a plate of bullshit. Not just on a daily basis, like on an hourly basis. So when one person comes along and says something that we don't feel like they're bullshitting us, we are ears perc up because we're like, oh, maybe this is worth listening listening to and to be perfectly honest, Trump did that. No, the shit he said was crazy, but you kind of believed that he believed it. And it's hilarious. Yeah. Let's not take it away from him just because we have strong opinions either way.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Right. You cannot deny a lot of you was fine. When he came out, I came out was like Mexicans are rapists Mexicans aren't rapists anymore. I mean like It's ridiculous amount of rapists Yeah, I'm not cap it. I think the same rapist is white people and any other but um But I believe that he believed it. I've zero doubt that he believed it And then you would have Hillary Clinton, who would be like, I had oatmeal for breakfast, and I'm like, nah, this bitch lying.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I don't know what you have for breakfast, but that shit won't note me ill. Yeah. You full of shit. And I feel like at the end of the day, sometimes it really just comes down to a feeling that people have. And I just didn't believe Hillary ate oatmeal,
Starting point is 00:49:24 but I definitely believed Trump believed Mexicans were rapists. I disagree with him, but there was it's you know it's not just what you say, but it's how you say it. Yeah. So I think a lot of it truth to how yeah because it's called it's called residents in connecting. It was always just felt like to me that the politicians were just saying what they thought we wanted to hear right when you go to a cell and someone is telling you that they tell you know their full of shit yeah and you know when somebody's trying to sell you something versus someone that's genuine and it's
Starting point is 00:50:00 terrible you don't want to hear it awful So but I actually think on the democratic side. There's a lot of candidates right now That really believe what they're saying and have a visceral connection to that whether But it really comes to it's gonna come down to Because politics ultimately is Which candidate do you think will make your life better? Or less worse? Well those fucking student loan wipe out things.
Starting point is 00:50:33 That's gonna get a lot of people excited. Maybe won't this time around? Because there's still a lot of old baby boomers that don't have a lot of student debt that can vote. But I'm telling you, within the next, Maybe not this election round, but the next couple dude everyone Fucking loads of people have 50,000 plus dollars Get it really I owe 75,000 dollars, and I don't use any part of my degree. It's so the I will pay off my student loan this year. Wow, I will pay off this year You passed that yeah, well I had way less than you to but it's so painful to have it
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's hard when somebody says to me we get rid of it. I kind of don't give a fuck what else that policy is Well, then you know me. It's my biggest problem. I'm like, okay, yeah, it's get rid of it Well, but that's a big thing because That sounds great. Because ultimately comes down to who makes your life better. Which candidate is offering a solution that's going to make your life better? Who's gonna make it just a little easier? Most of the time, it seems like she was the same. I remember. It's always the same when Trump got elected.
Starting point is 00:51:37 People, I could hear out my window. Someone on the block over, screaming. No! Yeah. No! Yeah. No! He thought the world was gonna end. A lot of people like you watch, everything's gonna be, I'm sure a lot of things have changed.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But again, I don't pay a great deal of attention to it. My bills are pretty much the same. Yeah. A lot of the taxes were a little weird. But mostly everything is happening the way it did. I don't get paid any more. I don't get paid less. It seems to be working. We're cracking along.
Starting point is 00:52:10 A lot of its identity. It's how we view ourselves as Americans, it's how we view ourselves, it's how we present ourselves to the world. And we have a vested interest in how people see us and how we present ourselves to the rest of the world. And we have a vested interest in how people see us and how we present ourselves to the rest of the world. And you have half the country who wants to present themselves
Starting point is 00:52:33 in one way and you have half the country that wants to present themselves in the other. And that's your identity politics. But it really comes down to who makes you think that's going to be a little bit better. It really does. And in that regard, I think you're looking at a couple. I mean, you have one Joe Biden is Joe Biden is the. Hey, no chance. He's not going to do it. I don't, I don't think he's going to do it. But in terms of like he as an alternative to Trump, he's just
Starting point is 00:53:02 kind of like he's a return to less drama in politics yeah which is not exciting enough to get anyone to vote it's certain it's not it's kind of like it's it's the idea of changing out your muffler on your car to the old like to the old one you have before because the new one kind of rattles a bit exactly it's nothing to get excited about you're like well At least there won't be that noise and then you have I Really feel like Elizabeth Warren is your other big candidate right now. She's a native American. He won. Yes. It was like never
Starting point is 00:53:38 She's not gonna win either. Oh, I think she could but he already has on it. I don't think it's not gonna work I don't see it because she has such a good economic message you're she's the one that's about student loan forgiveness Yeah, yeah still not gonna work for her I promise you she's gonna get in alive without I don't think so It's I don't think so I think it's our It's a nice look bad this mother's not sure colapocahonis of course fucking I call him broke a harness Yeah, he doesn't have any fucking Well, that doesn't stick either so good. I'm telling you this is a roast and I don't the in the most unroastable Has the best chance I'll tell you at the end of the day really comes down to who wins Wisconsin really that's it
Starting point is 00:54:17 Because Democrats are gonna take back Michigan and Pennsylvania. I mean, that's they're just gonna do that I don't know any of that stuff. It's electoral. It's but it's crazy It comes down to Wisconsin. Who wins Wisconsin? That's it. Fuck is going on in Wisconsin. They just have enough electoral votes that it puts It puts the one candidate or the other of the edge. Oh, it's it well and that's the big toss up Trump won by like 10,000 votes And then Democrats in the midterms It does seem crazy that it gets so close. There's so many parameters, so many people, so many lines, all that Jerry Mandarin or whatever they call them.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And it's down to like just the, it's incredible that it works like that. Yeah. Anyway, politics, it's enough of that. Love it. I can't, I just, every time that I get into it with somebody, and I'm like, you know, around the time of elections, you want to learn a bit, right?
Starting point is 00:55:11 That's when you want to get into it. Of course, that's what most people do. It puts me out as fast as fast. You should be expected to think about it 24-7, too. You have to have your fucking lives. Yeah, people do. But they were the same. I mean, Mike Baker didn't know really. Joe has his ideas. It's
Starting point is 00:55:27 going to be interesting to see what comes up from it. With all his CIA intel, you would have thought he'd had, I think his money's on Trump. It's what it sounds like to me. It could be. It could be just accepted that it's there. And that's it. A lot of people have. I hope they still go about. All right. So we have Andy Ruiz. And this was a shorter podcast only an hour.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It's unusual for him to do one so short. So we get through this quick bit. I'm a big fan of Andy. Andy is the first heavyweight Mexican boxer, super nice guy, super friendly, chubby dude. He doesn't look like the, he's more of a I mean he's bigger than even Tyson Fury but he's he's a bit of a bit of a he's almost like big country from the UFC right not a hillbilly but like you know he's chubby doesn't look
Starting point is 00:56:18 like a huge athlete he looks like a pack of punch baby, dude. He smoke your ass So he were he fought recently against Anthony Joshua and they talk about that Extensively on the podcast and if you follow Joe you've seen the memes and things that he's put up Anthony Joshua is a legend in England. He's an adonis of a man at very tall like six six Chiseled good-looking built like fucking brick brick shit house right and just demolishes people but Wow he got smashed if you haven't seen the fight between these two definitely watch that watch I anyone out there so good yeah the highlights are excellent he gets Anthony Joshua gets knocked down a bunch and he actually gets Hit down first looks stunned and when that happened I
Starting point is 00:57:06 thought he was done I was like wow three rounds in Anthony Joshua's beat him already but when Ruiz stood up just unloaded I mean Joe talks about it he was like jumping up and down on his bed excited I was the same way I couldn't believe it and I always try and watch fights, any fights, with maybe I have my favorite, but I generally don't. I just want to watch good fights, but I always want the best fighter to win. Generally, the best fighter does win. Obviously, that's kind of like a, you know, stupid thing to say, but I mean, but it's like I do. I do want that. I never get upset that somebody lost. I love when somebody, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:46 sometimes I want to see someone do more or I should win a different way, but I don't care that they anyone lost. You want really the best guy on that night to pull it together and just do damage and he did incredible damage. I would say that's one of the rare sports where you care I would say that's one of the rare sports where you care more, at least for me, you care more about the experience than the Victor in a way. You just wanna see a good fight, right? So, I mean, I kinda feel like tennis sometimes is that way.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like I have no real loyalty, like, fettler or joke of it, or an $1 or anything. I just wanna see a really good day. Yeah, I'm gonna match, you know what I mean? You might do it for your country. Because if it's like an American win, there's like nationalism. And that's fun.
Starting point is 00:58:33 You don't get a ton of nationalism with like the UFC. No. You get a bit more with boxing. And that's true. I think like Rocky Ful. Yes. Made that a thing, you know. The greatest movie of all time.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So good. You haven't seen Creed 2 yet, have you? I haven't seen Creed 1, but you need to see Creed 1. I don't want you to watch Creed 2. I don't want you to watch a lot of movies. I know. And I don't know if the creeds are going to work into my list of movies. I think they will.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Nothing against those movies, OK? I'm just saying, I'm building up a list of some great classics that I want to catch up on. Do you have any idea what it'll be? I haven't seen the end game one with the Avengers. saying I'm building up a list of like some great classics that I want to catch up on and I do that every single classic. I haven't seen the endgame one with the Avengers. Yeah it comes out on DVD and like a wall but it's the same I won't watch it. Have you seen the one that came before it? Somebody worked. I think it took me like three days. Well because you know how they give you 48 hours when you get a movie on. Right right right. Yeah yeah, watch it in parts I got it my I'm either too busy on my ADHD just I understand you're a man on the go a very strange dude It's really what it is, but yeah, okay, so the creeds are there, but they they now create too was the same sort of thing
Starting point is 00:59:39 Right, didn't you tell me that it was like it's droggo for it's for Rocky for point. It's Rocky for two. Yeah, Rocky for it's Rocky eight It is right yeah, yeah, no, it's Rocky seven. They went back to other mood like terminator Two, but this is an offbranching of that. It's like terminator had a baby Yeah, and wanted to fight junk Or kind of no and then they throw John Clovandana in just cuz oh Only why not my orgasm would be complete oh 80s orgasm. Oh, here's it. Here's a thing right talking about those kinds of movies Yeah, so we've got we've got this the face switching shit Do you know I know
Starting point is 01:00:20 Fakes do you think that they will I was watching some Bruce Lee videos earlier? Yeah, and I was like when are they just they will, I was watching some Bruce Lee videos earlier. Yeah. And I was like, when are they just gonna be at a make a new Bruce Lee movie? You know, that's an interesting thing because a lot of the time the face stuff they've been doing recently is they've just been making actors look younger.
Starting point is 01:00:37 But I think we're very, well they didn't like the Star Wars Rogue One. They did the one guy that, it was a different actor in the made them look like Peter Cushing from the 77 Star Wars Rogue One. They did the one guy that it was a different actor and they made them look like Peter Cushing from the 77 Star Wars, their first Star Wars film. It's pretty good. It's not. No, but I'm saying when it gets really good, will we accept a Bruce Lee movie coming back? It has to be perfect. Well, but think about it. It can't be because we know the human face better than anything. Yeah, but let's say, let's
Starting point is 01:01:04 just say it's perfect. Let's say they get it down the voice is perfect everything looks great and it's a good movie I don't think I don't think it's gonna be weird because then he's a fuck do they pay it's true he's dead I don't think we'll accept it because calling it it's not really him yeah but I'll accept 60-year-old Will Smith plan 24-year-old Will Smith type thing that's cool like I would give anything one of my favorite movies is the Well except 60 year old Will Smith plan, 24 year old Will Smith type thing. That's cool. Like I would give anything.
Starting point is 01:01:28 One of my favorite movies is the movie Midnight Run with Robert Janero and Charles Groten. And there were sequels, they were like made for TV sequels. Janero was not in them and I think it's one of Janero's greatest roles. He's amazing in it. He's so funny. And I'd love to see a sequel to that movie, but I don't want a sequel now. I don't want to see Jack Walsh in 2019. I can give a fuck. I'd like to see Jack Walsh in like 88 because the original movie came
Starting point is 01:01:58 out in like 86 or something like that. They can kind of do that now. Wow. That I would be down for. What would be okay, imagine this, right? Yeah. All the Ghostbusters guys, super fucking old. And I've heard that making a remake with some of the guys. Ghostbusters 3. Yeah. But let's say that they were able to write after Ghostbusters 2, right? Like make it all still look like that same time period. but it's now goes Buster's three same guys they were about the same age it all works. Why would we not be into that? I think we would be into that you know like bringing Arnold back make the original Original predator, but we make like the predator two version of the original Arnold still jack
Starting point is 01:02:44 He's still jack somehow he's getting to the chopper at the same rate that he needed to get the exact I think people are going to be on board I think there's a there's a really good well the the first time you really saw the good technology that the the de aging technology

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