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Hello, and welcome to another JRE review.
Oh, I gotta adjust my mic. It's loud.
We got Garrett here again. How you doing, Garrett?
Very good, very good. How you doing, man?
Yeah, not bad.
Not bad. The weather in Bozeman is perfect.
I don't know why we always cover weather.
Yeah, dude, today it's really nice.
I mean it's cooler. What's perfect? It's just sunny and nice. Beautiful day. The mountains look
great, snow on them. It's it's a very pretty place up here. Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. How's
L.A. Who'd you had another shutdown? Let's talk about it. Yeah, we're kind of in the thick of it like the next 12 hours or so. I don't know. There's
so much uncertainty like I've been getting some emails from my job. I bartend right up
the way here in Venice and we were actually one of the thriving bars why this whole thing's
been going on because we've had a lot of outdoor seating but I don't know. It was like talked
about last week that
they were thinking about doing another shutdown and I've heard through the great vine that
there was something about it had to be X amount of cases and we exceeded that. It was like
4500 to 5000 cases if we hit that and then I apparently the biggest number was in the
past few days. It was 6100 new reported cases so I just heard that a couple hours ago and
the effect goes in tomorrow we've had this curfew in effect since I want to say Sunday night
I believe that was that's correct either Saturday or Sunday night but so what's that you got to
be in bed by 10 or a lot that's the thing man. It's like, like we close down the restaurant, but yeah, I mean, I don't know, in bed, but yeah,
you got to be home.
They don't, apparently you can get in trouble for being out as was the sentiment, but I,
I think it'd be hard press for a cop to write somebody to take it.
And apparently if you're homeless, you can be outside like, what are we doing?
I don't, I heard COVID doesn't come out come out past 10.
Apparently is the is the narrative.
So
right.
God, it's just shit, man.
I don't know what to say.
I'm glad I'm not there for that.
That would piss me off.
Yeah.
And it's so weird too, because I think you saw that little meme.
I sent the group chat.
It's like doing this thing.
We're only some states are open in summer clothes. It's like having a having a piss sent in the group chat. It's like doing this thing where only some states are open and some are closed.
It's like having a, having a piss section in a public pool.
It's like, what are we doing?
You know what I mean?
Like, I thought that was a good explanation.
It's like, so, because even in my own mind now that we're
shut down, the first thing that comes to mind is I should go
to Florida, Arizona.
And I can't be the only person thinking that, you know what I mean?
So it's like, what are we, like, I just don't know the theory behind it. So.
Well, hang in there. I mean, we're all figuring out at the same time. I think this is a good,
good time to start with the Nicholas Chris Stachis podcast review. 156666 that guy obviously wrote a book on COVID and I thought it was really good that he came on
Because he kind of cleared some shit up about
You know what's what I like the fact that he did a lot of research kind of early on liking new this was gonna be a big problem
Right and kind of got in that early
Every time I get all of summer problem and kind of got in that early. Yeah, Harvard, I don't know, one of the good schools though. And he said the masks are really effective. That man is suck though, Garrett, just so
you know, he did say that that suck, but he also said, that's why I have I find it to be
a slippery slope too, because he's he's like well anything's better than nothing
So true, but as masks go
Those ones are the worst but I'm you know, let's say they're 10 times better than not wearing one then it's still got to be good, right?
I mean yeah, yes, I just don't know I I'm not I
Think it's naive to think that you would put on this little piece of cloth and it's like the
And it's like the savior like somehow that's become the narrative and I just don't buy that for like one second like sorry
Yeah, I'm still okay. Well, honestly a lot of people up here getting sick man
Where a lot of people yeah in bozeman it's really spiking and people to take in mask shit seriously
I mean I'll take it seriously, but it's like Yeah, anyway bozeman, it's really spiking and people to take in masks shit seriously. I mean, I'll take it seriously, but it's like, yeah.
Anyway, go ahead.
Yeah, I don't know.
You know?
It just seems that we picked that thing to be like the thing.
And now it's like, I mean, Joe repeats it over and over again.
I think we've hit on the thing about a million times.
It's like, are you taking care of yourself
in your own health period?
It's the idea that you're gonna be overweight,
not practicing good health, not getting sleep,
and then wear a mask and be okay.
It's like, I don't know if that's really the case.
But that's the same.
Right, I think what he's getting at though is like,
even if you, like you stay in good shape,
like let's say you're immune system strong, you get sick you still get it but you just don't get
very sick like it's for one day the thing is though without a mask you could
give it to someone else that is not in good shape at the bar and you know they
really go downhill fast so that's kind of like the group responsibility that
he's getting at yeah I mean I can appreciate that. I'm not. Yeah, I get that side of it too.
So. But that's a big point that you made and Joe says it all the time. Where is the talk about
fucking physical fitness? Like eating right in green smoothies and still jealous, not jealous shots, but Ginger shots and sweet grass and
Just practicing self-care. I mean, it's I don't know. I mean that said like as much as I do that
I can see how the other road is gotta be attacking people too as far as like I want to say alcoholism
But just partaking you got nothing to do like especially here in California. They won't let us leave the house
Isn't like at the curfew time. It's like, I don't know, I guess it just comes down to
personal decisions at the end of the day. You can't act like outside sources are always like affecting
what the hell you do, but I don't know. Yeah, to get back to his point, he did say that COVID was
actually a pretty big deal, so it's that I can't undermine it, especially given a lot of the facts that he was dishing out.
I mean, I never taken it lightly,
but at the same time, I don't know,
I've just taken personal responsibility to take care of it.
Well, the cost that he mentioned really hit me.
Right.
He said like some people got together and they realized
that it's going to cost $16 trillion.
That's the cost.
I think we started like half way.
Like wait a minute, what?
How many fucking zeros is that, 12?
Yeah, and then you even heard of anything,
a number that big.
He was saying something about having like 300 million vials
you'd have to make or something like that.
Is that accurate?
I think yes, I think so.
He's like that just.
How they gonna do this vaccine?
Because he was talking about the needing to be like super cold and
Places didn't even have like the right refrigeration. I'm like, oh god.
Some crazy like negative 150 or something. I can't remember but it was some number that you're like wow
I don't even know if I've seen it before like colder than dry ice. I think you can say
Yeah, I mean how the fuck are they gonna give that to?
Everyone's got to buy new fridges, I guess.
CVS, that's probably a game.
Maybe we corner the fridge game.
What was good though is, I mean, in a positive light,
even though it's like, fuck the economy
and mess with a lot of people's heads,
he's really saying the COVID isn't that bad
in the sense of like how many people have died
Like it's not like the plague where wipes out like a third of your family
Right could be much worse
Did you get that thing he was talking about when he was talking about world A and world B and
There's a thousand people and then blah blah blah. I don't know if I was just like I was not following that
And just that was a little confusing to me too
He's like well 90% of the people,
but it was 10, I kind of didn't understand.
We're just too stupid for it.
It was clearly the type of example that he would give at Harvard.
Maybe if I wrote it down, it would make sense.
But I'm like, dude, this is for students.
This isn't for JRE listeners.
Yeah, I was like, I'll just tell us
which world was supposed to believe it.
What is it?
Just tell us the answer. Yeah, I remember that, Malie mentioned it was like I'll just just tell us which world was supposed to believe it. Just tell us the answer
Yeah, I remember that man. I mentioned it was like something about losing 10 out of a hundred or a thousand out of something
Yeah, I was hard. I was had a difficult time figuring out which one I was supposed to like more
I think go did to if I remember correctly. I think he was like well, which one's better or something?
Yeah, I don't believe that you got it either.
He was agreeing along, but I think he just wanted to skip it.
He's like, all right, that's confusing.
The shit that he was saying about the president
being sick was interesting.
Because of his age and the type of medication they gave him,
he could have been closer to 20% risk of death,
even though he played it off like no big deal, two days later, he's like,
up and jogging around.
I mean, 20% is no job to you.
That's what I do, that's a prize of you when it comes to that guy.
I mean, right.
Nothing's going to work.
I mean, it makes sense.
It makes sense.
So I think, yeah, I was gonna say it makes sense that he would do that.
I mean, what are you gonna do?
Dwell on the 20% fuck.
I might be on his same shoes like fuck it. I'm alive
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean
But that's that's kind of crazy to think that there was like a one in five chance the president was gonna die
Like imagine if that was the news out there people would be fucking freaking out
Yeah, he was saying by the time this shit ends, it's probably going to kill about a million
people. I don't, I think just in the US he means. So, and it'd probably go on to about
2024 until we get like post pandemic life. Dude, that's a long fucking time. Like how are
we supposed to adjust to this? Do we need to get new jobs?
New careers?
Like do we all go back to school?
Like what the fuck are we supposed to do?
I really don't know.
I mean, I have no answers for you right now.
I was just getting nervous.
I don't think anyone does.
I was just getting back to normal life.
Like I was like, I guess we're wearing masks
and this is what it is right now
than so be it and then all of a sudden it's like,
tonight's my last shift for however long I'm going to find out what I'm supposed
to work Thanksgiving and I'm scheduled for next week but we've just been getting these
vague emails about the new shutdown. They said they were still voting on it so it's supposed
to be voted on by today like what's going to actually be because it could be they'd completely
shut down and don't even do takeout from my understanding. I'm not sure about that, but...
When they saying that the unemployment is going to run out in December, surely that has to
change now. There's no option. Yeah, that's the thing, and it's like how... Yeah. See
both sides, but at the end of the day, what cost? I mean, I realize people are gonna lose their lives, but there's I don't know
I don't know what the right answer is, but I know that you're driving
The economy into the fucking floor. That's for sure. There's no way around right
And you know the shutdown before obviously didn't really even stop the COVID right in California
They've had the shutdown so it's, what's even Elon Musk got it?
Right.
I'm like, you're telling me this guy doesn't have safety protocols
in place to make sure he doesn't get it.
Right.
I mean, fucking people are gonna get this shit.
Yeah, I mean, Trump got it.
Not to name just a bunch of friggin celebrities that got it,
but it's like, yeah, totally.
What do you think about the stimulus check?
You think they got to do another one right?
Because that 1200 bucks didn't do shit.
I'm dude I just feel bad for the people that didn't,
like I still think about it.
There's probably people and just, I mean,
people that didn't get the unemployment you know what I mean?
And like, yeah, well I didn't get it.
I mean it caused me to have to move.
That's what I'm saying. And I qualified for it. There was just no didn't get it. Yeah, I mean it caused me to have to move and I qualified for it
There was just no way to get through there was no way to
You know appeal the case and like there was just nothing I got to imagine and I can't be the only one
You can't be the only one. That's for sure. No dude. I mean, I think I mean they really handled that like dog shit right
Well, I thought I thought having him on was really enlightening
and he was pushing quite hard to like come back on again,
which I think kind of annoys Joe when people do that,
but I think it would be good to have him on next year
and kind of, all right, this is where we were
and now this is where we're at.
I mean, he talked about the vaccine,
he's saying that it's gonna work and you should take it.
So it's like, okay, I mean, where do you use that?
You know, I don't, I don't, well, dude, honestly,
I'm working at a, like a cannabis company up here
because they just legalize weed.
Right.
And today there was a harvest.
We were cut it, like getting ready to cut everything.
And this morning I woke up with like the worst cough I've ever had.
Really bad for a long time.
And here's the thing, ordinarily I would just go in because I felt okay.
But having a cough these days is a bit of a problem when you're with a team of people
that are like a well-oiled machine and working.
So I just called them and said, look, I don't think I should come in.
I mean, to put him in for the doctor Monday,
I just feel like at least even for other people,
that's like the responsible shit that you do.
It's such a weirder thing now if you're around people
and like they cough.
If I'm in the bank and somebody coughs,
it's like holy shit, grab a duck under a chair.
Or at least that's what people seem to do.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
Yeah. I, it just felt like the right move and my point is, yeah, get a fucking vaccine.
I'm like, you know, I'm not saying I'm willing to do it.
Make sure that it works, right? I think I might wait a little bit to see if anyone gets sick, but...
When was the last time you had a few shots? Not that I guess I don't know if that's a good company.
I don't think I've ever got one to be honest.
I don't recall ever having one my whole life.
My mom didn't do that stuff, so I'd say I don't.
Yeah.
I'm not anti, but I'm not pro either.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't know.
I'm certainly not like an anti-vaxxer person, but we'll see.
I mean, if it gets to the point where it's like,
you can't fly unless you've had a vaccine,
I read an article about that,
that one of the airlines is like,
you can't go internationally if you haven't had the vaccine,
is like kind of having to set it up.
I'm like, dude, I'm not letting it get in the way of like,
shit, I wanna do like that.
I'd be like, fuck it, I'll just get it.
For sure.
But I don't know. I don't know.
See.
It seems like I don't know what they're going to do with the stimulus package and like I've
always said like I live real close to the B chair in California and it's still nice
and they're not what I live but it definitely feels like we are on a different planet compared
to other states.
It's like I just don't know.
I mean we are like like like it's so nuts to think that six hours away everything's freaking open and
Yeah, you know what I mean? It is something about that feels really odd and really like corrupt and political to be honest
Yeah, 100% but you just have so many people there that it's it was always gonna be difficult for
California, and they don't want to become the new New York. New York's been hit so bad. Anyway, let's move on to the Gary Laderman 1565 podcast. This guy,
I think he was Harvard maybe or Stanford, another like top school, but he's a professor that
studies death and drugs. And I think sexuality too, but mostly he talked about
That's it. Yeah, he seemed like a cool dude. Oh, absolutely. He seemed pretty chill. I like to style. Yeah
He talked about lots of drug use during COVID
Of course, you know even psychedelics. It's like yeah people are exploring
You know, I mean we're trying to find answers and we can't get it from government sources and news. So, you know, getting out
there. And then of course, Portland legalized everything, every type of drug as far as I can
tell. That to me seems fucking crazy, but also at the same time. I mean I'm of the thought that I'm kind of like I'd
it's like the guns kill people or the people kill people.
That's the same kind of that same kind of thought process I have with drugs
because it's like if you really wanted to access something I probably know somebody
or you know somebody that knows somebody.
I think if I wanted to get my hands on something it it's like, I don't know, it seems like they should.
Yeah, you can get it anyway,
but why not take the money away,
like get some tax money from it,
and also take the power away from like cartels and shit?
I mean, that's a smart one.
It's like, how do we all know that?
And we're still doing the same shit.
I mean, that seems like, that's the problem, right? Like like when he touched on that. It's just that when you make things illegal
That goes back to prohibition people want which what they can't have so
Yeah, and it just makes business booming because somebody's gonna do the thing that
Causes more risk which means more profit so
I don't know
Yeah, I mean it would be it would interesting. Like if they just legalized everything
all through the US for just one year,
surely that would bankrupt the cartels immediately.
And then, you know, see if it really does
like fuck everything up, like people think.
I mean, if they do it in Portland
and things are normal in Portland, you know,
if the whole state doesn't just fall apart
and they get a bunch of revenue money,
I mean, it's probably gonna be hard
for other states to ignore that.
Right, I mean, if you tell me heroin's legal,
I'm still not going to buy it.
Like I know that I've seen what people look like on heroin
and I don't really desire to do that.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
That's not my bag at all.
But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where I stand on that, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, that's not not my bag at all but uh
I don't know I don't know where I stand on that to be honest
It'd be interesting to go on one of their dope shops though and just see all that shit out there be like holy fuck
Are you kidding me? Wow that would be it could have a rager in Vegas with that
He did talk about how it's kind of like the perfect storm for COVID.
You've got Trump as president.
Politics is crazy.
And people are just like, yeah, fuck all this time for drugs.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty accurate.
I mean, it's like who are we supposed to look up to for guidance?
Right.
You know, that's the big thing. It's like what are we supposed to do?
Yeah, everybody else like what do you think and where I?
Well the news doesn't help not it the politicians don't you know most people's parents probably don't even have a fucking clue
When people ask me I'm like, ah, it's all about you know, you all feels right. Yeah
You know now well really though now's the time's all about what you're doing. Do what feels right. Yeah. You know?
Now, well, really though, now's the time.
Like, hey, look, if you're still in a job
and you don't like it, it's probably
scary than ever to leave.
But it might be, if you can get unemployment,
it might be the time to spend some time
and fucking try and start a business.
That's what I was thinking.
I feel like I kind of just rode the last one out and
they kind of gave us a time frame on this one was three weeks it's like something in the back of
my head has been like let's start putting together a plan and not let these three weeks just pass by
yeah three weeks isn't long but if you really sit down and start working and
booking it I mean mean, who knows?
I mean, people can do it.
Right.
I was thinking that myself, I want to build something
or figure out another plan.
I've enjoyed my life.
It was nice.
COVID didn't end, but I slowed down or whatever.
And I'd skated right into a nice little job
and then made some good money for a few months
because people were still wanting to go out and then
Now we're back to ground zero. It feels like I don't know what the hell
It's like I to be honest with you man. It's like it didn't work the first time. I don't see why it's gonna work the second time
Yeah, they just don't know what to do and that comes back to like the next thing
It's like okay, so people aren't working and what have we noticed from like, we had a lot of friends that were in the bar industry
when we were in LA.
So we were like, all the first people put out of work
and on unemployment, so you think,
wow, you don't have to work,
you can work on yourself, work out,
do very few people did that shit.
Very few people kind of cleaned up their act.
In a way, they kind of fell back into more addictions and that's something that Gary was talking about. It's like, you
know, there's a lot of addictions out there. It's not just drugs. There's like, you know,
sex can be one, hooking up, dating, you know, generally attention, social media, going
to parties, like it's in it. in all of a sudden we realize oh wow the
reason I wasn't working out before or being healthy before making healthy choices
wasn't because I was so busy with work it was because you know it's almost like
bored of now causes that to happen. Well you can choose your own narrative but I
hear what you're saying but well of course you can but your own narrative, but I hear what you're saying, but
Well, of course you can, but this is this is what I'm seeing from people Right. I mean the the most beneficial event that I saw was people leaving. I knew that as soon as I left and like
Whether you go on a trip and come back or you know permanently like people did that you did that right
It was good. It was good in its own way. Yeah, I mean, I spent three weeks in Phoenix. I spent like five weeks in New Hampshire,
driving 10 days on the road. I think I took advantage of it pretty nicely as well as I could.
I mean, like you said, I got out of town. If it does go down like this, I'm giving some serious
thought to dissolve it in the car and cruising to one of the states that's opening it to.
And I can't be the only person thinking that, but that's kind of been in the back of my
mind. Maybe I can go there and just get a job doing something and then still kind of enjoy
a little bit of normalcy. But yeah, well, I'd recommend if anyone out there listening
feels kind of trapped with the closed down. Like there are states that are open.
And you can find a way to, like, you be surprised when you make a list and like,
really look at who you know.
You know, when I started to do it, I was like, I don't know where I could go.
But now after I've like thought about who I know in different places,
like there's multiple states that I could, I'd be welcome to just stay and and spend some time in and
Would even give me long enough to like set up you know a new life there if I wanted to
Did you hear about it? And I think a lot of people have that option. Did you hear about New Mexico your old almond matter?
They were
I think they're shut down pretty hardcore right now too
New Mexico. Yeah, I think they are they down pretty hard core right now too. New Mexico, yeah, I think they are.
They have like a quarantine too, I believe.
Like if you go there, you got to stay there for a bit.
I'm not 100% sure.
I know LA does.
They have a 14 day quarantine.
What does that mean?
I don't know how the fuck they're enforcing that though.
I don't know how that would be.
Yeah, they're really not doing that.
Driving cars, what are they going to say?
Like, I don't know how that works. I haven't know how that works. I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works.
I haven't heard one person say they've done a 14 day quarantine.
I didn't tell you that.
No, they probably are not doing that, but they still say it.
Right.
He did talk about psychedelics.
Like, and Joe always talks about like the reset of psychedelics.
You know, like you do on them and it kind of,
it's like wiping your computer.
What's he call it?
Control-altholete. And then the computer reboots and there's just one folder and then it kind of, it's like wiping your computer. What's he call it, control, all the lead.
And then the computer reboots,
and there's just one folder in the middle,
and it's like all your old shit.
And you have a choice, open that up,
and get back into your mess, or like start new.
And probably most people just go back into that old folder
out of curiosity, and then they slip into their old habits.
But it does give you a bit of time
to like really kind of time to really feel different
and feel refreshed.
And even the scary trips, I think, can be beneficial, maybe more beneficial, because they're showing
you something about yourself, like you're fucking up.
And I think that's a powerful message. For sure.
You know, I wish you could think that while you're having a bad trip instead of just thinking
it's going to go on forever.
Yeah, right.
I haven't done that.
Do you have much experience with psychedelics?
I haven't done mushrooms in a while.
I'm not opposed.
I kind of like that little warm feeling for sure.
I don't know.
Take a trip down to Joshua Trurion,
get some mushrooms.
I'm down with that.
And I don't wanna say that my days are over with that,
like with acid, but I've only had a handful of experiences,
but I wouldn't be opposed.
I don't know.
It's just one of those things
that I have to be in the right head space for and want to
do.
But I can tell you one thing, just because I've been holding myself accountable with this
little workout situation, I know the next day that no matter what I did the day before,
it's not going to be an excuse for me not to get after it.
So it's like how much pain do I want to put myself through the next day?
I kind of think about that the day before now
so That's been a good accountability thing for me, but I mean I wouldn't be opposed to do some
Acid or some mushrooms again sometime, but
Yeah, get a reset going man, right I
Will say who knows maybe we're get a when we get some normal life right?
I'll come down there and we'll do a trip.
I'd be down with that.
He talks about, I think we've talked about this before too,
but like meditation, I don't wanna say
you can get to like a hallucinogenic spot,
but I will say that when I'm doing my daily meditations,
there's a certain time where it,
it only works for like a few breaths,
I'm still working on it, but like whenever I feel like
there's a handful of breaths throughout the
time that I've only spent like 10 minutes doing it. But like I feel like in line, like I don't
know how to describe it. I think you can feel that kind of way whenever you're on mushrooms
or any psychedelic, you just feel like in line and you're like, I'm supposed to be right
here right now kind of mentality. Do you have you had a lot of experience
meditation doing meditation? Yeah, I mean,
it's brief and I acknowledge it when it happens because it don't because I do when I do
my meditation, I just breathe in like one and then breathe out one and I do that nice and
slow for like a hundred breaths and it normally is right around 10 minutes. So throughout that,
when I just get deep and I only am like I'm trying to focus on the third eye They say and I'm always just trying to be like I'm with you. That's what the mantra is to me
And there's a bit there's like a handful each time where I just feel like completely
Intune with what's going on like part of the universe kind of thing because my thoughts aren't all over the place and he kind of comments on it as being
Like anxiety washing
He's like you just feel right to get washed off you and it's like that's kind of where and it as being like anxiety washing.
He's like, you just feel anxiety, get washed off you.
And it's like, that's kind of where,
and that's why I attribute it to it.
I don't like to talk about it too much
because I think it takes away from the energy from it,
but I do wanna share that with people
because I feel, I just don't have like bad days
anymore to be honest with you.
Like I have bad moments every now and again,
but there's no like,
if you just take time to be honest with you. Like, I have bad moments every now and again, but there's no like, well, if you just take time to be quiet
and like, intentionally do that,
I find that there's a lot more calm
and peace throughout the day.
That's good.
That's nice.
I used to go to the float lab
in, and obviously,
Rogan talks about that a lot,
but in Venice, I used to go,
I don't know, I got to like every couple of weeks I would go at the
most but generally I do like once a month, it do that place is amazing. That to me is really the only
way I can meditate, I don't know if the patience, but two hours of silence and darkness and floating,
it really, I always feel good when I get out of that. There's no way. Really good. That's the truth. There's no way to not feel, especially even with meditation.
I didn't feel like I had the wherewithal either.
I'm trying to extend it to do like 15 or 20 minutes,
and that's been a game that I need to play,
and I need to be more dedicated.
But I find a lot of peace in doing it.
I try and do it once in the morning and once at night.
But as long as I get one, I'm happy.
But I don't know what it's good to do, you know?
I mean, they end that podcast really talking about the unreported suicides.
It's very disturbing.
You know, people are upset and it's difficult and life is hard and they're running out
of money.
And then it goes into other things like, what do you do of all your time?
He talks about like a porn addiction,
or like, you know, hyper-sexualized behavior.
You know, from that, or like young girls doing that.
And, you know, it's, people have kind of time now, right?
I mean, there's a chance to do more dating
than ever in a weird way.
So it's like, how is that affecting everybody?
Yeah, I don't know.
That could go either way.
Like these things are addictions in themselves.
Yeah, right.
That's all contingent on the person too,
because I imagine a lot of the people on the dating sites
are like, I don't want to meet up,
because of COVID, I guess.
Probably I imagine, I don't know.
No, that's true. Yeah, I mean, want to meet up because of COVID, I guess. Probably I imagine. I don't know. No, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, it's changed a thing.
Like, there were plenty of people that don't want to meet up
because of COVID and that's probably a good move.
Right.
You know, if SDDs, which is funny,
because they were never too worried about SDDs before that.
They were like, yeah, come over.
Now COVID, they're like, nah, don't worry about that.
I'm like, SDD is a forever bird.
Come on.
All right, let's move on to the Donnell Rollings and Dave Chappelle.
I'm probably should open with that because we've been waiting for Dave forever, but in a
way, a bit of a letdown, only for the reason being Dave just kind of showed up for the
last hour and popped him, but it was still great that he did it.
That's what he did.
I have to watch and that happened. I was like, this is what he does still great that he did it. That's what he does. After watching that happen, I was like,
this is what he does.
Like he's, that's how he rolls.
He's the only guy that could ever just show up
to Rogan knock on the door and have like a front row seat.
I mean, legend.
He's a legend.
Do you know he's not getting paid for the Netflix?
I just read Berkshire Pell that they put on what what's going on with that i just read that
i think comedy central owns all the rights to it so they're doing like
he's having i think he's asking people to boycott i saw that i think it's
quite quite a move i see that on multiple
platforms where where is it is it on netflix i'm and that makes me want to watch
yeah it's net, it's Netflix
It's on Netflix. It's a new world. Did you believe that don't now got shot in his thumb? Is this a bullshit story? I still can't figure it out. I don't know. I don't know why he was both why would bullshit about that
Well, he's a comedian. He says we had funny stuff and he's obviously a shot in the hand
In the thumb isn't like I mean, I don't know
I don't it doesn't seem too drastic, but at the same time,
it didn't seem like something I would lie about,
like consistently.
True, but at the same time, it's like,
if you get shot in your thumb,
he's like, my thumb's gonna be fine.
They remove the shrapnel.
I'm like, what did you get shot with?
I can't even imagine a caliber small enough
to not blow your whole thumb off. Yeah, you have a I mean, I I ripped my whole thumb off with a cross
pose. I was gonna say you have a pretty good frame of reference on there. Yeah.
God, I mean, I could imagine getting I was lucky because the because the the
bow's like when it fired the string is like very thin so it acted kind of like a
knife. Right. So it allowed them to kind of put it back together, but I don't know how being shot. I don't know. I
Maybe I believe in two, but it just was a very funny story. I don't want to hate on him, but he's
He's hard to watch sometimes just it just it's like too much. I'm just like dude just
Chill out for a little bit. I just try, I guess you see when you watch the podcast,
people trying to like talk over one another.
And when I see it.
He was a little much.
Yeah, he didn't have a lot of podcast etiquette for sure.
He's like eating.
Is that what it is?
You think podcast etiquette?
I think that, and just this,
I mean, I treat these as conversation.
So it's like if we were having a conversation,
I wouldn't want to be like, right, right, right, right. That's the, that's the, well, it's true. It were having a conversation I wouldn't want to be like right right right right that's the truth.
It's that but I mean you've got to think that people are listening.
Right.
Right.
So the like if you and I are just talking at a bar I mean and I'm getting into it and it's
no easy.
Right.
Like I might talk over you more and be patient.
Right.
Totally.
I can totally agree with that, but yeah, whatever.
But either way, yeah, he was an unusual guest.
It seemed to be a bit much from my own perspective sometimes.
Joe's like just saying, like sitting there and he's like,
already done, he's like, you finished?
Are you done?
You done?
He doesn't say that, but you can tell that's what he's thinking,
you know.
Right.
He was busted.
Joe's bowl is a lot on that podcast, too.
Right. Well, because he was like, you don't believe lot on that podcast too right well cuz he was
like you don't believe me Joe doesn't believe me he's like I believe you do
that's what I'm saying chill that's the exact situation I'm referencing is that
he's like what are you talking about man I've told you 17 times I believe you what
do you want me to say I'm just like and he has his dog in that yeah I felt
like it was just like the default thing to say if you didn't have anything else to say right at that second
He'd say you don't believe me about my thumb. It's like, dude. What are we doing? What are you doing? I don't know
Either way, let's not focus on that
But that's that was that was the exact situation that I was referencing. What's it?
It was basically two hours of that so if you're a big fan of shepal and you just really want to focus on him
I mean look just
Fast forward to the last hour. Dude. he had a pit bull, right? He's fun to listen to. He's obviously
a comedian, but he's like, he seems to be incredibly knowledgeable on a lot of things,
too. Yeah, he spoke Korean, which I thought was cool. Right. Like out of no way, he's just
like, yeah, I also speak Korean. Yeah, I'm like, oh, that's Don L
I mean he's he's a good comedian. Yeah, he is a funny dude. Yeah, for sure. I
Was talking the way Dave talked was like I don't think I've ever seen him talk like not that I've ever
He's like dumb by any stretch, but I've never seen him talk like that was just like super articulate everything
He said was super articulate. I thought like, but I've never seen him talk. That was just like super articulate. Everything he said was super articulate, I thought.
Like more than I've ever seen.
Yeah.
That's, I was an acknowledgement.
I was like, man, this guy's kind of like a professor today.
Like he was like super knowledgeable on multiple things,
which I shouldn't, I mean, I assume he would be.
Well, Dave has great opinions.
Right. And he obviously turns those strong opinions into comedy, which is hilarious
So if he takes away the comedy aspect of it and he's not trying to be funny, I mean he's gonna be like a stooot
observer of like human nature, you know what I mean?
and
And that makes him a little bit more focused.
I mean, if it compare him to Donnell, right, we were already talking about how Donnell
is kind of all over the place and just kind of like waffling on.
Days very concise and like the things he has says hold a lot of weight, you know, people
listen to what he's talking about for sure.
I like that metaphor he threw down
he goes, we have the recipes, just none of the ingredients. Yeah, right. And that's an
interesting, that's an interesting metaphor. You can probably apply that in a lot of areas.
Sure. For sure. We have all the theories, but we don't necessarily have all the tools
I guess. Well, Dave promised to come back in the new year after I think the inauguration which is
fucking great news. I would love for him to do like a solid three or four hours on there.
And now that I think he's gone in there, you know, he said he was like tricked by Joe
which I thought was quite funny. But at the same time it's like well you've done it now
so it's not a big deal.
Right.
So come back.
For sure.
You know, talk about some things, get into it.
I think I think it'd be better for Joe too, because he, I don't know if he was expecting
him in there, so he can kind of be a bit more prepared with questions and maybe Dave
would be like more in the mood to really get into stuff.
It seemed like he was like ready to leave a lot of the podcast.
He's like, okay, kind of, let's go.
We ready, let's eat some elk meat.
Yeah, he goes, let's go get some lunch or whatever.
I think this is what he's accustomed to.
He's on Dave time, which is cool.
He's made it to that spot where he's like,
all right, I'm good on this.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Which I'm sure.
I mean, I can't remember if he said he still smokes
on planes or not.
I think he said he doesn't.
He probably does when he's on a private plane.
I'm sure.
So.
They did, they mentioned towards the end like how this kind of covert chick came out of no
way and it like it really shut everyone down like it shut.
It's the reason Joe moved because he loved the community at the comedy store.
Right. And his last performance
he talked about was in March, even though I think he performed someone with Dave like somewhere
else, but his last time like working material, I actually got to see that show.
That was for standup on the spot.
And yeah, it was cool.
I took a friend of mine, one of the barmaids at Jameson's actually,
who does stand up and has never seen Joe perform. And kind of just thought that he's a
meathead and not funny. And I was like, listen, you gotta watch this guy. You do comedy,
like watch him, tell me what you think. And the standup on the spot shows great because
if you don't know about it, it's Jeremiah Watkins show and they just pick basically the audience just throws stuff out there
and that night Joe kind of knew that this shutdown was coming and talked a lot
about the pandemic and what COVID was and and it's in a small room anyway and it
was just like a really fucking cool intimate show and he had some incredible
shit to talk about I mean mean, it was brilliant.
And that was it.
That was the last night.
As soon as that closed, he knew that he wasn't going back there.
And they're talking about Tom Sugura moving to Austin as well.
Maybe Bert will.
I think they're going to open a club out there,
which is 100% what I knew they were going to fucking do
as soon as Joe moved there.
I'm like 100% they're gonna open a club.
And that is gonna be the best damn comedy club in the world.
That would be my guess.
Everything's gonna shift to Texas from Cali, probably.
Yeah, dude, it's gonna be epic.
But yeah, they're all moving.
They don't need Hollywood anymore.
That's why everyone was out there for Hollywood.
And now it's like you look at the way people are doing things that just doing it themselves.
It's either podcasts, release your stand-up special. They don't need to be on TV shows.
For sure. I need to take a play out of that playbook for...
I like how Dave called Jamie Fingers. He's like, hey Google that thing is that is amazing
That is amazing
Every time I've seen him at the comedy store like he would I was lucky enough to see him a couple of times And he just will walk in you know late and no one can really do that anymore
But they let Dave do it and even the other comedians do because he's just the guy. He's the goat
And he will do that. He like gives the bomb aids
That names and like just comes up with these little and they're brilliant. They're so hilarious. They're perfect
Then of course crushes
Yeah, I don't think he can exist without being funny. It's coming out
Definitely coming out for him for sure. But yeah, even
though it was just an hour and the dawn out bit was a little bit kind of all over the
place, because he kept talking about fucking soybeans. I'm like, dude, let the joke go.
That's what I was like, let's just do new material. I don't even have to keep beating
on other subjects. Just get over it already. But yeah, I'm like, I was listening and I didn't know
that Joe was, I mean, Dave only came at the very end. I was like, what the fuck is going on in
this podcast? Like, I've been waiting for this. Hurry up. I want to talk about it. I was going to
get into it. But still totally worth it. And I believe that he's coming on soon. I mean,
the inauguration is January, so that means probably end of January, we'll have Dave back. I'm real fucking pumped for that man.
That's gonna be awesome. All right, well that's all the pods for this week. Thank you,
Garrett, as always, good luck out there in LA. Hopefully, you know, let me know. We're here
next week, like where you'll be at and what's going on, so keep us up to date and you're like the LA news now for the JRE
experience review listeners. But that's it. All right thanks guys thanks for listening as always
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