Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Can We Get Rid Of Cassie The Ghost?

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

In this episode, we dive into a chilling yet heartwarming encounter with a spirit named Cassie, who seems to have formed a bond with Megan’s daughter. With the help of a medium, we explore the mysterious presence in Aiya’s room, uncover Cassie’s story, and perform a cleansing ritual to help her move on. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The John O'Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better tea. Hi, sweetheart. He's right here. This is where she hangs right in this corner. She's here. Oh, man.

Okay, so it's creepy, but it's not creepy. But this is in the corner where she's talking about is right where the doll's house is, and that's where Aya sits and talks to herself, I thought. And Jesse, can you talk to her? Just trying. Okay, sorry. Do we shut up? Yes, we'll be. Sorry.

Sorry, sorry. I'm shaking. We can go to the plastic of the bridge. That'd be a good idea. Can you tell from, like, is she wearing, like, old and day dress or, like... No, I can only see this part of her. This part of her. She's got long blonde hair, though.

Like, yeah. She's very beautiful. She is very beautiful, so your daughter is very right. She is very, very beautiful. But I think there's a, I want under the history of here, because she keeps looking that way, and she keeps going straight out, and it's, oh, I don't know how long, that way. Maybe she's, maybe this was her family's land.

Yeah. And she's like, they bloody developed it all. Sometimes they can get a bit stuffed like that, you know, and they'll attach themselves to a little kid, especially if your daughter sits here playing, and she's seen her, and she's come, and she stays, you know. But. Well, Aya, your daughter seems, she seems happy.

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, not a negative spirit, wasn't it? Not a negative spirit. She's not really, she's a bit... Right there is the only place that I catch Aya talking to herself. No. Yeah. But I thought she's just playing with her dollhouse.

No, she is, but she's playing with Cassie. If that's what we're going to call her. But she's not talking to you to tell her. That's what I keep saying, right? Cassie, it was... I think she said that Cassie just wants to talk to me. to you do want us to leave

should we leave no especially does she have any does that do you want to talk

to me sweet up the dog is very confused right now the dog's

like you're all certify will be nuts he's like what is

what are what are you do way what are you do you do you do you do you

want to talk to me do do you want to she's shaking her head and so yeah but

she's very shy. Oh, I feel like we should give us some time. Could I, could I just have me? Yeah, absolutely. Is that right? You know, you know, you know, listen, we're not for everyone, even ghosts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Maybe not eight year old little girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, I feel the need to like sit down, so I'm not like towering over her. Yeah, of course. I'm going to sit down on the ground. Always great. We were talking to kids anyway. Hi. Hi.

Is there a blue or purple doll in there? She likes that one. Where is it? Where is it? Is it that one? That one? Is that Cassie's one? Is that the one that your daughter says? Oh, I don't know. Do you like that one? You're real sweet.

Where are you from? Here. She's from here. She's from here. Who lived here before you? It was a family with, but like in this particular room was an older man who was ill. Okay, no. Unless there's someone who's passed over with her with them or something.

Hmm. Maybe. You know how to hop out, bud. Yeah, cool. No, that's right. Do you like dogs? Mia! Come here, come here.

Hi, Bubba. She just gives it. Oh, she doesn't. I think she does what she's a bit. She's like, whoa, what's going on here, you know? Oh. I honestly didn't think there was anything in her house, Meg. Until, because she was so quiet and hidden.

I walked straight down here. And then saw her sitting here. Oh, my God. Can we move you on? Why? Did she say no? Why? Mm-hmm.

You can visit her any time though. She likes your daughter. Oh, I think she likes you too. She's a real sweethear and she's just lost. She's just stuck. She didn't, she wants to move on. soulfully they need to move on but she doesn't want to move on should I say oh she wants to stay with you can you do it no it's really bad

my name your nana looks after her too so your nana's here and your nana knows she's here oh and your nana's hanging out with her your nana is the most sweetest soul like she's the type that you'd walk into you'd walk into the house and she'd be like you want a cup of tea here you go you want something you want something and she's like what's nana this is mum's mum

because she's offering me something now I'm like I'm okay and then she's offering she's been offering things like she's she's a giver you're Nana I

can you help her move Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. She was... sorry, she what? I think you've had her for a while. Okay, so... how long have you lived here? How long have you lived here?

Five years? Five years? Yeah, you've had her for a while. I think you've somehow, she's made away here, but she's from up there. Oh. I wonder if we can pull up a map of this area. We'll see what used to be here. Yeah.

We'll see whether we can find the farmhouse and things. so does she can't move on but when you say my nana's here yeah so does she come voluntarily or Nana protects you so Nana is one of your guys she's always there so much who's that great partner is it just he belongs to me as you your mom's dad you're so fast hey oh it's got a bit more height I just get the shortness from her side of the family um but they protect you. Oh. And she's like,

I don't know, it's fine. I will help her move on though, and we'll get her out of the room because to help the daughter sleep a bit more. And I don't think it's the monster, like she's interpreting it as monsters, and she knows it's Cassie, but she also doesn't know it's Cassie where she's in that dream state.

So when she wakes up and she goes, you know, or going to sleep and it's like other things in here, yeah. Do you, because, sounds like I'm making things up, but she looked over this. way the other day and she said hello and I was like yeah yeah it's because she's standing she this is where she like but it was dark and I was like and that's the thing that that confuses though you know like imagine waking up and you're saying like

a shatter you know yeah and kids are so susceptible to that sort of thing I'm surprised the guy was it here did you get your house best or something afterwards I'm surprised the guy that was sick oh I don't think I don't know if he moved out before he died yeah Okay, that makes a lot sense. No, he's not here. Hey Cassie, is that your name? Is her name Cassie? Is her name Cassie?

She just smiled at me, so I guess. Is your name Cassie? Can you show me that again? Oh, she's got stunning for her. She's not standing for eyes. Does your daughter also have the person in the eyes, do you? Yeah. She loves your daughter's eyes.

Oh. Like she's, it's the eyes. That's what they get along. I can't see what she's wearing, though. She's not showing me that stuff. And when I asked Aya what she was wearing, she said she couldn't. She made it up. I could tell she was making it up.

Yeah, because it's not, um, she's not showing me that part of. her like so when you when you see like when I see a spirit I walk in I can see a silhouette of it you know I can see it in my brain and they will show me what they want to show me they don't show me I can't pull you know yeah yeah around things like that but yeah she's not showing me what she looks like clothes but she's showing me her hair out here she's not too much shorter than me I'm pretty short though how old are you What then?

She's seven. She's seven. Oh. What happened to her? Yeah, that's about to ask. What happened? Okay. That's a gay.

You got sick. Oh. Oh. Did you live around here? Mm-hmm. Who did you live with? She must be real, but this must be yonks ago. She's lived with her mum and her grandparents.

Do you have siblings? I love sister. Is that why you like Ayah? Is that why you like Ayah? Does I sing? Yeah. Yeah. She sings to her.

Oh, stop. She's always singing in here. Yeah. They're singing together. Aww. So sweet. Oh, I feel really bad for her. Yeah.

I'm so sorry, sweet. Oh. I'm going to help you move on though, okay. Oh, what if I miss her? She can come back if she chooses, okay? It's just getting her from being locked here and being stuck here. So we'll move her on. And then if she comes, it's like, you know, your grandparents will let her in play if she wants,

but she's not allowed her when she sleeps. She's not allowed to besie her living, you know? So she can play with her and she can do those things and she can come and go. But right now she's stuck. because I don't feel it anywhere else in your house in just here. She's stuck here and she's very timid as well, so she's very little. She's just got shy. You're always welcome me here, my love.

It's going to help me cross over, okay? Then you can come back and play dolls and sing. Okay. Okay, so what we'll do? I don't think I'm going to get much conversation out of it, to be honest, if you're also very difficult. I know she's such a shy girl anyway. Yeah.

that i'm going to get the sage and i'm going to the sage eyes one and then tonight you're going to chop a line and put it in here and you're going to set that intention and then she won't come in shoot she because they come other places Mm-hmm. No, no, no, I won't affect you. Your Nana. What?

She goes, is that going to stop me from... Oh, you're right. Does Nana have any other chance to say? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Um, does she know that Aya's got her little name? Yes. are they the same middle name yeah yeah no no her first name is her middle name yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay why he's got one for you oh is it a girl What do you got there, Mac? Possibly, yes. Isn't that one that always follows me around? Maybe. No. This is a little baby.

A little baby wrapped up. Can you show me that colour again? Oh, my doll, it's blue. There's a boy for you if you're on it. for you if you want it. Mm-hmm. Sorry? Did your parents just leave?

Yes. Two days ago? No, like a week ago. Oh, but was it a Wednesday? Yes. Yeah. Oh, it would be yesterday, wouldn't it? Yeah.

My brain. He's told me Wednesday. Oh, I think your mum gets very broken when she has to go. Yes. Yeah. Sorry, your granddad's over here. It's great dad a long, long time ago. Yeah, it's a lot more.

Hmm. Has your mum been doing some gardening? Like around her property. Yeah. It's just showing me out. It's looking really nice. It's almost like quite... Her house?

Yeah. It's like a... I don't know what she's done to it, but it goes down the side and around the back. Well, down the side and like that, you know, along the side. It's got a big hill banky bit. Ah, so now she's, like, planted a buff, is she? It looks way better. I'm going to tell her he said that.

Still could go one lower on the mower, though. We're a little bit too high. My mum exclusively mows the lawn. tell her to go one one thing lower on the mower okay she's obsessed oh my god it's so funny it's like she's on her three but she needs to be on a two you know like the limit things he's laughing laughing his answer

mm-hmm oh my god do you have a big career flip or something He doesn't we have a... Granddad? No, you. Oh. You have a career, like career change. Yeah.

But the same career, but career change. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? He's just like... He's just a high-fived. You handled that so well. Oh. You did so well.

Don't you dare question yourself. You did so well. Head held high he's shown me. Okay? He'd held high. So I don't know what happened. But you had your head held high on that one. Thank you very good.

I'm so proud of you So proud of you Nana is too She goes me too, me too I miss Nana lots laughs like all you females in the family have these like beautiful laughs and getting you all together is just like well the women yeah have the sense of humans yeah yeah you're going to say the men need a shed what your granddad said the men need a shed

the woman have the sense here and the men need a shed oh my god that's so funny because Andrew always says he doesn't need a man like a man shed that's so funny oh my god okay we're going to sage the house right now um okay you can be a hater but like what I just what I just heard we'll be a hater but we're a hater with a microphone

you can be a hater but like what I just experienced I have no explanation before no I'm just saying people in general people in general and I don't care so you think now that Cassie you believe there is a spirit Cassie here stuck here yeah i do now as well i like genuinely when i walked in the house and before i came here i was

having to say no i don't think there is i kind of feel anything walked in here it was outside nothing walked inside nothing and i was like i'm just going to walk down there walked straight down to the room and there she was so yeah so we can help her get on her way yeah give her the picture money to get back to town which is quite expensive that's probably why she stuck her to the ass is a long way yeah oh jeez but I will explain why I have limes. Can I, can I, wow, are you? Yeah, sure.

Producer Troy. Do you hear of limes as? Are you about to eat it? He eats lemons, skin and all. Okay, this is a whole other video, but hey. Do you want to watch me vomit? Here we go. He can eat a whole line.

Have you got lemon? No. Not at all. My fruit veggie store. Troy, Troy, Troy, Troy, Troy, Troy, Troy. Boy, it's very tough. Oh jeez, okay. that's so tough i'm so sorry it's all right it's all right it's the whole thing skin it's

i think it's too hard yeah i'm living on a lime i don't think they can do it yeah it's quite tough i want to make a mess on your floor we'll come back for lemon when life gives you lemons Troy eats them I mean everything just is it was way more impressive than that. Yeah, all right. You haven't seen her at 11. I'll explain to why I have the lines. Okay.

Okay, so lines are because what's going to happen, because your daughter's not seen her very well. Which I didn't tell her, by the way. She's staffing monsters and who's like that, right? So we're going to chop this in half, you're going to put it in a bowl, and you're going to put that in her room, and you're going to set the intention that nothing can come into into,

into, Aya, Aya, space. Okay, and that it's her space and nothing is her space and nothing to have in the line. She can, she'll start. So it's not every night thing, it's just tonight. Well, to be honest, I chop lime and I put it in my daughter's room and I change it every three or four days.

Constantly, because there is constant stuff going. What? You gotta stop, you gotta stop grabbing it. I've got more. I can't get running around putting your lines, ma. So we're putting it, why are you doing to put a lime? What's the lime? The lime is just because you don't want to be swiping up.

don't want to be smoking up the baby's room. I see, so there's an access to this age. Okay, okay, it's a cleanser. Yeah, the detox. Just keep her in pure and cleansed and they should be sleep without having injections. Yeah, because she asked me each night when I'm trying to get her to sleep,

but the monster, if there's any monsters there today. Really? They say no, there's no monsters, but she always asked me. Yeah, another really good one is to just get like a line spray. You just walk around the way and just spray it. They look for spray out here, it here, and if she's saying it as well,

you're going to help her, understand them. It's not like lime. Lime scooter? Lime scooter? No, it's trying to get a gag in there, guys. No, he knows. Dispred's not.

Yeah. Limes, can you be Lines. It's too late now. It's past, it's past. Oh, sorry. You guys are having a little buddy. I don't even know why I'm here. I don't need to be here, but anyway, yeah.

Okay, so we're going to go in? All right. Are we allowed back in? Because, yeah, okay. I feel like we're going to party. We've all gone to all. Oh, sorry. We're like, okay, alright.

I think no one comes in, I've got some talk, sorry, we're not really not, I'm going. I know I was just saying, Jonah. I actually feel really bad. Because just remember, we're not, we're helping her cross over, so she has the option to come in there. Right, okay.

Not just staying there. I know. I'm sorry about that. Okay, so first more, I'm going to start over here. It smells like a cosmic corner. corner it does you know those shops yeah okay um to the smell of my life and jess is uh kind of waving that around the room around ire's room it's gonna smoke out of room so yeah i feel bad because we're calling her cassie but we don't know her name she said that she

wouldn't have a clue playing with ida so it could be a main up that could be like part of the play yeah and it just it could be part of her thing or that's what she chooses i don't know she's not going to be her they like playing and the eye looks after her So she doesn't want, she actually shook her head and said she doesn't want to leave. So I do feel a bit bad. Well, now she's got the option to go. Yeah, to come and go and go to show leases. Sorry, then.

You are always welcome here. I love, just don't sneak up on me or make any noises because they're scary. Can go. Oh, that stinks though, Jess. I'm sorry about that love. That's why I said the live for every day is. It smells like compost, doesn't it? Yeah, it smells like, burning compost.

Sage. It was like sage. Shall we say here? Yes. Okay. Okay. I'm trying to run away. Sorry.

Do we stop? Stop dropping a roll. I don't know where to say. I feel like again. I'm going to sit on the couch again if you want. Smoke and your house just feel so unnatful these days. What have I done? Ah, what have I done?

There you go. So, all right. Is she, how does she reacting? She's all right. She's smiling. Yeah. So Cassie got the opportunity now to go. Yeah.

She's going out of the door? Oh. Oh. John, that feels rude. It does. It does. You don't want to go. You can come back any time and play with Aya.

Yeah. It sounds very friendly. She was very, apparently, very shy. She just... No, she definitely didn't like you too. No, she's not the only one, though. Yeah. Not the only one.

Okay. Bye. So you believe it? You believe it. Just, there's so many things. Just the way that she... Aya always sits there and talks. And then she only sits there. when she's in this room and apparently Cassie could only kind of be in this room so a lot of that rings true for me and then Iyer at night she's like are the monsters here tonight and sometimes that's just what kids call spirits she's no one else to call her also she said she could only see her head and when I asked Ia to explain what she was wearing she went uh-uh-uh and she started making up an outfit I knew she was lying so that it brings true that she couldn't actually see you couldn't see what she was wearing either

but I can see her hair and I can see her face and she's very beautiful she's got the most beautiful eyes long hair and about here and she's just very little I thought she's about eight but she's seven she's seven oh seven okay oh six seven yeah my six seven yeah by the girl's generation that was a good way yeah yeah she laughing at that you'll get it like it's a thing now and it's like take that back to the spragile she doesn't get it she's not here oh she's going on She missed your 6-7 joke. Yeah, she gone. Oh, guys, I feel really bad.

Don't feel bad because you've just helped her. You're stuck, you know? You don't want them being stuck, because they can, especially kids, they can get stuck, they just don't know where to go, they don't know what to do, you know? So moving them on, helping them cross over is the best thing for them. And then they can come and go, you know, you can welcome her back in. You can say, hey, you're welcome in, and she can come back in,

but she's just not allowed an eyes ring now. Oh, not, okay. Ever? Well, she can, but. She has to be invited. She's going to a better place. She has. Auckland, City.

She's about four hours away. My car, but it's pretty well, maybe that's a quick. Oh my God, go out of my house. Thank you. You need to sage us out? Does that work on these guys? Get it. You're not welcome.

Okay, we're out of here. Okay, the last thing.