Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Dear Megan Deep Dive | THE GREATEST HITS

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Need some advice? Catch up on all our Dear Megan's from the past months! (00:00) A wedding invite turns awkward when a listener is asked to be a Uber driver (07:40) Should you confront friends who pla...nned a girls’ trip without you? (14:20) The super awkward convo: how do you kick out your overstaying brother-in-law? (21:20) First date red flag or just confidence? He ordered her food without asking (28:50 Is a co-worker’s compliment actually flirting and should the husband be worried? (35:25) Husband crying over breakfast = sweet or serious ick? (44:40) Babysitter drama: is it okay to take someone’s child to another house without telling them? (52:10) BUSTED: a mum lies to her daughter about the end of year concert to avoid rehearsals… Join the Itty Bitty Hitty Committee HERE!Instagram:  @THEHITSBREAKFASTFacebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & MeganSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The John O'Benna Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better tea. T.M. Megan. All right, someone has slid into your DMs, Megan? Yeah, this is the part of the show where we helped solve a problem for someone. This one, it does seemingly have a simple answer, but I would find this very hard to do. It's an awkward situation, eh?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yeah, it reads, I have been invited to a wedding of a family friend, and after I'd already RSVPed, my husband and I have both been asked to drive guests to and from the wedding. My issue is that we were asked after we are RSVPed, so now I feel like we can't say no, and we also won't be able to have anything to drink. It also means that if anyone leaves the reception early, we're expected to take them. I'm hoping there'll be petrol money included, but nothing's been mentioned. I feel a bit cornered, and like that might have been why we were invited. How do I say no?
Starting point is 00:00:56 We really don't want to do it, but it's their wedding, and I'm pretty sure the bride won't take no very well. Tricky situation to be in. Firstly, you should be honoured that they respect your driving ability so much that you're relied on to transport the guests to and from. But it does feel like a bit of a blind side after you've RSVP'd. Yeah. Although I did have, I have a mate that gives me grief because he's a camera person, Andy,
Starting point is 00:01:22 and he came to my wedding, he was there. I went, oh, you're here, mate. Could you just hold this camera for the ceremony? He's like, oh, is it the reason you invited me? I was like, no, no, no. It's great that you do you here. Do you have the whole time?
Starting point is 00:01:35 Did you not have like a videographer set up? We didn't have, no, we just, it was like a little handy cam and stuff. So yeah, he did that for that. And he would have been brilliant to that. He was good. And then I was like, mate, you can check out. But actually, do you know, after all these years later, how many years ago was your wedding? Oh, yeah, it was, like, 16, 17 years ago?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Andy's getting married in January. Yeah. We R-HP'd used to his wedding. He's like, by the way, can you do emce? Yeah, true. There you go. He's had a win. He's had a win.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Playback. Exactly. But it is a tricky one, isn't it? Because I'm like, well, I mean, maybe you can help drive people to the ceremony, but it feels like after that you'd want to. I just don't like saying no to people, and the problem is it's her wedding, and she's not going to take her will. So how are you going to say no?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Because you obviously don't want to do it. But you're not the Uber service. That's the thing. No, I know. I know. But like for my wedding, I'm thinking there was a lot of older people who, A, don't have Uber, B, wouldn't know how to even do it. So maybe she's thinking more along those lines.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Why doesn't she come in and go, hey, listen, I really just want to spend the day with you, celebrating you. Put on a bus. Not ferrying people around. I inadvertently ended up working at a wedding to our friend's wedding. They ran out of alcohol. And they're like, can you take our credit card and head off to Liquorland? you don't have to tell me twice.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And then I came back and I was operating the bar. I was behind the bar. At what stage of the night, though, did you have to go and get the alcohol? Oh, it was definitely the tail end of the evening. Yes, I wouldn't have asked you. No. There was a sweet, sweet elderly lady. I'll never forget it.
Starting point is 00:03:09 She came up, she's like, can I please have a wine and an orange juice? And I said, yes, sweet lady. And I was working the bar, and I poured a big glass of orange juice. And then I didn't know what wine was what. And I just poured like red wine all into this orange juice. Oh, yeah. She was horrified to pull, and it looked like a sangria. And I was like, have a nice night.
Starting point is 00:03:32 She kind of walked away with it. So that was my work effort at a wedding. Sorry, Ben, I played that way too early. She was still jibbering away. Megan, what's been happening in your inbox? So a message today is from someone who's been invited to a wedding. And after she R-Suped, they asked her and a husband to basically shop her own guest to and from the wedding.
Starting point is 00:03:53 She doesn't want to do it, which is fair enough, because she won't be able to drink, she won't be able to have a good time, but she doesn't know how to say no to a bride, which I get a bright, like saying no to your friend any other day is hard, but doing it for her wedding is just... Yeah, however, I reckon some people use that as currency. Some people who are brides and grooms use it to run a dictatorship
Starting point is 00:04:19 and use their friends and family as service. don't they? Emotional warfare. Yeah, there's only one or two times in your life you can get away with that. When you're having a wedding and when you're dying, you can use your friends and family as servants. So they're taking full advantage.
Starting point is 00:04:33 A lot of feedback on this on 0800. The hits, 4-487. What would you do, Emily? Well, morning, go. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to UM. Lovely to have you on. Show catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's the worst. So if it was me, I would just politely decline and say, I'm here to celebrate your day. with you and that's just how I want to spend the day. So I will not be attending. You're right. I'll attend the wedding, but I won't be your driver.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Might be the driver. Yeah. It does feel like a conversation that needed to be front-footed. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot to ask. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:11 They've kind of been sort of steamrolled here or whatever, you know, like that was their plan and yeah. It feels icky because now it feels like that's why you were invited. And it's like, well, do you actually want me here or do you just want me to drive your guests? Exactly. Yeah, well, technically they don't really because you're going to be on the road at the lowest part of the time. So, yeah, good point there, Emily. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Bridie, good morning to you. Good morning, good morning. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Lovely to have you on, Bridie. Okay, you've been invited to a wedding. You're RSVP, then all of a sudden you were blindsided with a request that you drive the guests to and from. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:47 No, you decline. You say you're there to get flushed. I mean, that's the only reason why you attend a wedding right. I don't know if that's the main reason about celebrating the couple, but I guess that maybe it's a second reason for some people. I mean, you could do it politely, but you are there to have a good time, so I would say no sorry. I think that's what weddings are all about.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You're there to get slosh. Not to celebrate the couple in their lifelong commitment to each other. Well, Bridie. Free booze. It does feel like a landslide this one, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. It's just how you bring it up is the awkward thing really for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I like Damien on our breakfast Facebook page. He said, say you're really sorry, but you don't think you're emotionally mature enough to spend the night sober while watching everyone else sit the dance for. I need to dance to Mr. Brightside, so I'm going to politely decline. That's all you can do, really. And then I guess what happens from there is what happens from there if you get uninvited? The hardest lesson I'm having to learn.
Starting point is 00:06:51 is you can't control other people's reaction to what you say. So if you say no, for very good reasons, if they have a negative reaction, it's not your fault and it's not your problem. It's their problem to deal with. That's easier said than done. Okay. Yeah. That's what you said to your first husband.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I can't control the reaction to the news I am currently delivering you. Is that what you said? Was that what you've learned since? That's your reaction. That's on you. That's not on me. That's so put the gills on me, mate. Thanks so much for your calls
Starting point is 00:07:24 Because you didn't drive people to and from our wedding I asked you to do it And you said will you marry me Only have been transport our guests at the wedding Appreciate everyone Helping us out for the Dear Megan this morning Jono Ben and Megan The podcast
Starting point is 00:07:38 The Hats So congratulations to Dua Lippo Who got married over the weekend Why are you laughing? I don't know it sounds weird coming from me I mean a lot to her like What did I say about it? Oh, I see congratulations
Starting point is 00:07:51 Oh, did he? Oh, that's nice. I told you earlier. You did. Why did you need to say that there enough to pink though? I was like, for a second day, I was like, no, there was no relevance to that. No, because I just told him and he wanted to delete it out of his mind. He's like, get that done. I was like saving it in case we played some jewelieper, but anyway, we've seen it now.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Okay, let's get to Dear Megan. Dear Megan. Okay, as a part of the show where you write us with Dilema, some kind of situation in your life where you would like people to give you advice. Today's one is about a group of high school friends. It reads, I found out that my group of girlfriends from high school are going on a girl's trip to Sydney without me.
Starting point is 00:08:32 We still hang out and have been friends for obviously a long time and I have no idea if there is any issue with me. No one has said anything, so I don't know why I wouldn't be invited. The thing is, if I say something and they pity invite me, I don't know if I would want to go anyway. It's awkward and I'm just feeling hurt that they're hiding it from me. What do I do?
Starting point is 00:08:55 They've probably just forgotten about her. I reckon. Oh, wow. Is that the worst thing? Yeah. Yeah, that's even worse. Like, how often are these people keeping in contact? Well, it seems like she, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It sounds like they're actively hiding it from her. So, we still hang out and she says, I'm feeling hurt that they're hiding it. So she's found out about it. Yeah, so it's not like people she has no contact work. Yeah, yeah. Oh, right. So it's not a reunion scenario. No.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Wasn't this, Mel Robbins? Wasn't this where a whole... Oh, she would be like, let them. Well, this is what I think let them came out of that. She didn't get invited to a whole thing as well. She was really bitter about it. And then she realized, firstly, about let them and do it, but she hadn't been that great a friend, really, when it bawled down to it.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Well, that's also what you've got to ask yourself, too. Are you good at keeping in kind? I'm a shocking friend at times, too. And, you know, you don't get invited stuff. And you're like, well, that's probably because I am terrible at communication. And she might be bad at comms, which could be the reason where they're like, oh, she might not be her thing,
Starting point is 00:09:54 she might not want to take a weekend to come away with us. It would have been nice to know, I guess, if they're still mates for this person. If you wanted to take the Mel Robbins' advice, she would say, just let them, and next time you organise it and invite everyone. Yeah. But that's easier, though,
Starting point is 00:10:08 because you'd be so hurt. My husband's got a group of friends that we hang out with from high school all the time. Shut up. Don't make a young gag. How do they go with the NCAA exams this year, mate? They're doing Cambridge. Oh, they're doing Cambridge.
Starting point is 00:10:22 They're on the pathway, the Cambridge pathway, I think. We've got a big future ahead of them those little kids. We hang out a lot, and if they had organised something with, okay, why do I bother? Do you have to drive them around? They've got the restricted license. They're going to take person. They only drive at 10.30, they have to be all done. I don't know why I bothered.
Starting point is 00:10:38 No, sorry, you were doing some genuine advice there, and we really railroaded. No, I was just going to say that. If that happened with our friend group, would be, I'd be pretty. hurt? So if Andrew's friends didn't invite you guys on an away weekend? Yeah, yeah. No, fair enough. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But then if you do bring up something, they're going to do the pity invite. And you don't want the pity invite. That's what she's saying, right? You don't want to go knowing that it all don't want you there for whatever reason. Yeah. So that being
Starting point is 00:11:03 said, I would say, well, just similar with it. Sulk and silent treatment. Is that the best way? Or is there a way to say? It's not the best way, but that's what I'd do. Hey, I don't want to come, but hey, it would be nice to be invited or something? Oh, God. I don't know. Is that? That's a done. Yeah, so if you've got any advice for this person, she said she found out that her group of girlfriends from high school that she still hangs out with are going on a girl's trip to Sydney without me. They've been friends for a long time and they're hiding it. They don't talk about it in front of her, but she knows that they're going. So what does she do?
Starting point is 00:11:35 She doesn't want a pity invite because then it's awkward, but does she confront them? I like this from Monique on our Facebook. She says firstly, they're not your friends. Secondly, let it play out. It's none of your business what they do behind your back. So true. However, make sure you have a list of hard questions
Starting point is 00:11:53 when they come back. Courageous conversations will show you who to invest your time in. Yeah, hard questions like, did you get me a tobley on? A big one of those big white ones. A carton of cigarettes, sorry. I would just not say anything.
Starting point is 00:12:07 If this was me, I'd just not say anything and just get on with life. You'd be hurt, though. You would be hurt. And obviously it's taken up so much time and energy for this poor person worrying about it and stewing over it to the point where they've written
Starting point is 00:12:17 to a bloody radio show to get advice. So how much more time and energy do you want to spend on the scenario? Say we all went on a trip somewhere Ben and we didn't invite you and we didn't talk about it. How would you feel? A bit weird, I guess, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Well, because radio trip. Generally we go to get a work trip. Generally we go to get a work trip. I'd be like, hey, I'm not of the work trip. Yeah. This is how I find out. We're going to do the radio show
Starting point is 00:12:42 from a cafe and a bachal, mate. Are you coming? No. No, we thought it's best you stay behind. Or I just turned up to work one day and you were suddenly in there. I'd be like, what? A few people have said go full muriel on them. So book the trip at the same time, same place, and then be like, oh, oh hi.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That's so awkward. That is. But then also you've got to get their itinerary too, a lot of research and development for that one. There's two roads. Either you put your big girl pants on and you have that conversation and be like, have I upset you, be prepared to hear the answer. or just move on and don't say anything and lessen your time with them maybe.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Listen, our phones are playing up this morning. Oh, 800 of the hits. So we can't get any calls on it. It's an absolute nightmare out there. Producer Troy's got the tech department on it. We're getting to the bottom of it right now. But another great message that you read out before was quite good. Get a new starting five girl lineup.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, yeah. Yeah, so go find some new girlfriends. You said that and I've lost it in the... She says bench the heifers. Get a new starting girl lineup. There's definitely something wrong. Drop those heifers to the bench. and select a new starting girl lineup.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Thank you, Jefferson. Don't like the NBA too. Point God. They come out doing high fives and butt slaps. So what's your final advice for this particular person, mate? Well, it seems to me like they're not really your friends. If they were and they had a problem, they'd talk to you about it. So I reckon you just need to move on.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Tough, tough, but yeah, okay. Maybe organize something with them, see what the vibes are. And if they're not giving you good vibes, you just need to move on. Okay. Too many snakes over there anyway. Yeah. spiders. It's a nightmare over in Australia.
Starting point is 00:14:15 John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hats. T.M. Megan. And this is a segment we do where people slide into mid-D-Ms. They always have with, like, dilemmas, asking for advice. And I don't mind. I just don't know why you'd ask me. Attach any photos, medical advice.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We take it all, don't we? Yeah. And we offer it up to the listeners for advice, judgment, whatever. Today, it's about an overstaying brother. in-law. So it reads, my brother-in-law is staying with us after he broke up with his wife. We offered it to him, but we gave him two months and then he had to find somewhere. That deadline is coming up and he hasn't done anything to get out. Yes, he's family, but it isn't great for our marriage having him there. My wife won't start the conversation and I
Starting point is 00:15:04 don't want him to think we don't care, but how the hell do we get him out? Has anyone got any advice on what we can say to him. Genuinely, we genuinely couldn't think of a more awkward conversation one human could have to another human. Especially family, it's not like, you know, one of his disheveled friends, newly single, freshly divorced is staying with him. This is, you know, this is blood. I feel like, oh, if it was my family, I'm pretty honest, I'd be like, brach, get a place,
Starting point is 00:15:35 like get out. But when it's in-laws, like, it's, like, It has to be the wife, doesn't it? Yeah, it has to take the charge. It does feel like you wouldn't want it to feel as your own family in some ways. But then some families feel like they have that relationship. As you say, that can be quite honest, where others are like, we'll just have tow around this situation. Maybe he needs to talk to his wife and say, you need to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. You need to. I'm married into this relationship. He can hate me, but he's not going to hate you. Yeah. So, oh, 800 of the hits. What would you do in this? Maybe you have had this.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I'm sure there's people listening. right now of who have had this situation haven't. I get awkward getting people to leave after they stay a little too long for dinner. I just start doing the dishes generally as a sign that I want to wrap the night up. But I don't know what that equivalent
Starting point is 00:16:23 is when someone's overstayed by a number of months. I couldn't get you guys to leave my house after... No, we stayed around and watch day on TV, didn't we? I know, and I was like, oh, all right. All right, guys, you better be going now. Because Andrew came home. I could I could smell, I could smell the pheromones brewing.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I could smell there's something about a happiness. So I said to Troy and Ben, it's time for us to remove ourselves from the situation. But we're going to see things we can't unsee. So I'll 800 that. How do you get rid of an overstaying brother? Maybe it's happened to you. Maybe you've had family or friends at your house that have just, you know, met to be a week or two and then ended up how long later?
Starting point is 00:17:00 And how did you have... It seems like one of those speeches that you just lie awake and be just rehearsing in a read. And then you end up buying... How are you going with finding a house? And he'll be like, not good. And you're like, okay. Have you thought about when you're going to, you know, that's just sort of, you know, ease your way into that conversation? An email?
Starting point is 00:17:19 Email? Email, you get so much good stuff out on me. Email would be nice, wouldn't it? He'd be like, why don't you just talk to me? Email, get AI to have a little pass of it. End with no worries if not. Yeah. All good.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. A brother-in-law is staying at a house post-divorce. He's staying with his sister and her husband. The husband is message I'm saying, look, we've said two months. He's now overstaying his welcome. My wife doesn't want to say anything. How do we deal with this?
Starting point is 00:17:47 And divorce is difficult, emotional turmoil, plus you don't know where you're living and all of that palava. So I can understand it's a difficult conversation. He might still be, you know, like crying in his room. Yeah, you just don't know what they're going through. I mean, I made a horrible mistake of, I remember when I ambushed you on air, Megan, and I said to everyone that after you or divorced,
Starting point is 00:18:08 you were sleeping in the car park, at work, at Media Works, the old Barrier Radio, but you hadn't told anyone that publicly. You were away, Ben. You're on annual leave, and I shared that information without knowing that it wasn't public. It's like one of those moments where you confide in Jono. Don't tell Johnny anything that you don't want to end up on radio.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Who was telling me this? And you'd be like, it was me. But it was just that. So don't even, you know, that's fine. It's fine. But like, I am saying, this from a place where I understand where he's coming from. Like afterwards, you're like, where am I going to go?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, what am I going to do? It's like a restart on life, isn't it? And we're going to go to the phones. Tina, morning to you. Happy New Year. Morning. So how would you have this conversation? What would you do?
Starting point is 00:18:51 So I would get him to maybe have a look at some rentals and stuff, and it might be up to start the conversation. Oh, like, show him some rentals. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. Well, like, leave an iPad around with it on, like, the rentals page. on trade me or something. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, definitely. It's like business presents that you want. You also had another option on your text, option B, if that didn't work? If that fails, then have a few drinks and tell them straight. That always gets straight to the guts of the topic. Five beers deep. Love it, Tina.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Thanks for you call this morning. We got Leaf with us this morning. Happy New Year, guys. Happy New Year, Leaf. Great to have you on with the show, Catchphrase, my friend. What's your advice? us. Honestly, you're just going to leave with love, eh?
Starting point is 00:19:38 And just be like, listen, we love you and we want to see you grow. And this is a growing opportunity. And, like, you can't do that while you're still hiding under our roof. Like, you just got to be there for him along the way and say, we'll help you find a place. We'll help you shift. You know, we're not going to leave you high and dry, but we want to see you move on and, like, and show that, you know, she wasn't everything in your life that you've got enough going on yourself to really be an amazing person on your own.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I feel like I want to move out. I know, same. I'm out. You've convinced me. It's heavy. Well done. Ben's leaving his family. You're right.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I can survive by myself. You're right. Make a lot of stuff you get done. You don't have to hijack them. You know, you can make them a nice dinner and be like, so bro, you know. We love having you here, but it's time to move on. Like, don't send an email. Don't text them and be like, get out.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. I hope I suggested that. Oh my God, lead with love. Leif, you're so great. Everyone needs Leif as a wingman in their life. Amen. We need to like save your number for any time we're having problems. Got it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Leach. If you're ever needing some love, just give me a call. Oh, good on you. You need to start an Instagram account with, you know, like positive affirmations and things. Leaf, that was great, great advice. Mate, you going to have a good day. You do the same. Bye, guys.
Starting point is 00:20:59 All right, Megan, that's wrap things up. What are we going to say? I don't think we can go past what Leif said. Didn't even think about that. Just show him with some compassion. He might just feel stuck because, you know, he's broken up with his wife. Who would have thought love would? Leaf with love.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Leaf with love. Dear Leaf next week, not Dear Megan, that's for sure. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. Every week, if there is a DM from someone, we like to put a question to you in this week. Very interesting one for Dear Megan. DEMM. Slide into the DMs, Megan. Yeah, I don't know how to feel.
Starting point is 00:21:33 feel about this one. It's an interesting one. I do watch Ben control your intake with breakfast every morning, so we'll see where he sits. Just has a real opinion on it every morning. Okay, today's... Oh, you're going to depressing pancakes again, are you? Today reads, I've
Starting point is 00:21:49 recently started dating again after my divorce, and last week I went on a first date with a man. I met on a dating app. We went to a nice restaurant, and when the server came over, my date asked me if there was anything I didn't eat. That's nice? Like, do you... Anything you Dietary requirements. It's all the rage, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. I said no. So then he just went ahead and ordered for both of us without really asking what I wanted. At the time I told myself it was maybe just confidence or him trying to take the lead. But now I'm wondering if it was a red flag and a bit controlling. He did pay at the end when I said I'd be happy to pay for my share, so maybe he's just chivalrous. Do you guys think it's weird? So ordering for someone without asking them what they want, is that controlling? Is it a very? red flag. Like, is it a place? Oh, I'd love to know if it's a place he goes to all the time. He's like, you've got to try this. I'll order, you know, I'll be that person that orders for the table.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, but that conversation would have been great. Yeah. Clearly, you didn't have that conversation. Yeah. Yeah. You've been like, I come here lots. Do you mind if I order? Yeah. Oh, you've got to try this. Yeah. That's great. That's great. That's quite good when someone does that. Sometimes you're like, how much are you got to get as well? Ben loves being submissive. Yeah. My concern is, I wouldn't say a red flag, maybe a little blood orange flag. Wouldn't put it in the red flag category just yet because it might just be chivalry. He might have been nervous.
Starting point is 00:23:08 He might have gone on to a YouTube advice video on how to date babes in your 40s. And they'll be like, they like being taken control on, mate. Order for them. That's what I always think when you're starting to date someone. You can't write off anyone after one thing. I think people are so quick to go,
Starting point is 00:23:26 oh, that's a red flag. I'm out. Or they do that, I'm out. Or they wore that jacket. I'm out, you know. Whereas. Oh, amen, sister. Jen and my wife started.
Starting point is 00:23:33 looking at my red flags when we first started dating. Would have been no chance. Yeah, and you're right, maybe he was nervous. Maybe he's just jumping back into the sit-chew as well. Yeah, I mean, in his defense, he paid for the meal. He did order it, but yeah, is it signs of being controlling, or is it signs of being just lovely and chivalrous? And even if it is a red flag, you got one, just wait and see if there's any more.
Starting point is 00:23:55 How many red flags before? Three. Are we doing like three strikes? Do you put three up the pole? Yeah, so he's got one. Okay. That's had I would broach it anyway. Okay, so not a deal breaker just yet for Megan, but for you, is this a red flag?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Would you go on a second date with this guy who's ordering for her without even asking? Tell you what I would like to put out there. Yeah. When you say you don't want fries and you eat my fries, I'm going to order you fries. I'm going to take control. I'm going to order more fries for the table. When we say we don't want fries, that means you need to order enough for me to pick at your plate. It's very complicated out there, Ben.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Landmines all over the place. So this person's recently started dating again after their divorce. They went on the dating apps, met with a guy. It was the first date. They went to a nice restaurant. And then he asked if there's anything she didn't like. Then proceeded to order for her. Now, did he ask if there was anything she didn't like with a waiter?
Starting point is 00:24:51 He did. Okay, right. He asked, is there anything you don't eat? And then just went ahead and steamrolled in and ordered a meal. So at least he asked. But she wants to know now after leaving, she's like, look, is it a red flag? or was he just trying to be chivalrous?
Starting point is 00:25:04 She's not really sure. Did he pitch starting a joint bank account by the end of dinner? That's the thing. It's like I feel like a lot of people go on these dates and we're so keen to find anything wrong with the person, any reason to not carry on. And this message is kind of along that line from Kirsten. She said, accept it, enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:25:26 look for the positive in the experience, not the negative. Worry when or if you need to. But for now, just enjoy the ride. It's probably worth another date, is it? I mean, he paid for it. I mean, yeah. Is it controlling behaviour? The phones and texts are steaming up.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Heidi. Welcome. Morning, Kane. Lovely to have you on. Have you got an opinion on this? Would you go on a second date? What would be your advice if she was your friend? Well, it sounds like you might have just been attempting to impress her,
Starting point is 00:25:54 like maybe doing a bit of, you know, showing us he might be a bit successful. So I reckon if she likes him enough to go on a second date, she should choose a place that she's familiar with and she enjoys. And when she gets there just say some ink along the lines of, hey, I know this place really well. Let me take the reins tonight. Let me order for you. But then she has to be prepared to pay for the meal, I think.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Oh, okay. That's good because that lets you know if he is controlling, because he won't like that. And if he lets you, if he steps back and lets you do it, That's a green flag. Also, then you give him a chance to explain why he did it last time. Why he did it, yeah, you're right. He's like, yeah, no, I knew the last place.
Starting point is 00:26:36 So, yeah, you got, you know. You're right. That's great, Heidi. That's really good advice, actually. That's the best we've had so far. Take the power back, shift the power balance. That's what you're saying. Well, that's a really good tip.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Thank you, Heidi. Sonia! Hi, how's it going? Where you sit on this one? Absolutely not. I couldn't, yeah, it's disgusting behaviour. You're all disgusting behaviour. Not even a red flag, just a straight up ick and no turning back.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah, I could never go out with someone. Imagine not being able to order your own food again. I know, but do you think he was just doing it to try, like, was it a one-off? Yeah, nah. You think it's a full on red flag? You wouldn't go on a second date, Sonia. No, I'd be running. What if he nailed the order?
Starting point is 00:27:26 That's the thing. She didn't write if she enjoyed it. the meal or not? Yeah. He wouldn't have. Sonia knows. Oh, okay, Sonia, you're saying, okay. You're like, there's not even any chips. We always have a cider chips. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Because it's like ordering a bottle of wine. I'm trying to just find some sort of defense for this guy. Is it like going, here's a bottle of wine. I know you'll enjoy. He might have gone, here's a meal I know you'll enjoy. I know, but he doesn't know her. They've only just met. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Can we get some feedback on her enjoyment of the meal? Yeah. Maybe if it was like a share. Lots of sharing plates, maybe that's better than just the one meal and just going, you're now having a salad. We're like, oh, am I? We're not getting Sonia across the line, are we? Oh my God, if he ordered himself like a steak and new a salad, I would have just got up and left.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Even though I probably would have ordered the salad myself, it's not the point. All right, Sonia. Well, she's putting it in the disgusting category. Thank you so much. I don't know if we're disgusted by it, are we? No, most people were like saying, give him another chance. it might be a red flag, but give him another go. Renee said I'd love that and start calling him Mr. Gray.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So, you know. Different strokes, different folks, you know? So what are we going to say back? I reckon take advice of Heidi. Take him to a restaurant you're familiar with and you try and see if he'll let you order. Power play him back just to see. And please send us a message.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Tell us how the second date goes. Yeah, we'll get the follow up. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The Hats. Yeah, Megan. Okay. We've got some correspondence from my husband.
Starting point is 00:28:57 this week. And if you've got anything you'd like to put to the people, you can DM me. We will do relationships, we'll do workplace situations, friendship, anything you've got going on. You still have to a bloody pressure cooker, mate. Can someone DM you for a free pressure cooker?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Slide into the DMs, yep. So this one reads, my wife mentioned that a guy at her work has been giving her compliments. The latest being that her hair, her new hair, brings out her eyes. She says he's harmless And I know she kind of likes the attention
Starting point is 00:29:29 And it's not that I have an issue with her getting compliments But I would never say that to another woman It seems inappropriate I trust my wife and I don't want to come across As insecure or controlling At the same time I just feel like he's dropping constant comments That are a bit on the nose I guess I'm just wondering how you'd see it
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'm keen to know if other guys think he's flirting with her Because I do Now that comments Yeah, so this is the only comment we know. Like, how do you take that comment? Because if I, I feel like I'd be comfortable saying, hey, I like your hair, I like your hair cut, but that your hair brings out your eyes. Oh, your hair brings out your eyes.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That feels a little bit more flirtatious to me on the surface. Because I would say that to someone. I would say, and I think I have said that to like guys at work. I'm like, yo, that color brings out your eyes. But you're extremely flirtatious, though. You know. But I always call me a time. Well, sometimes I hear Ben go, hey, your hair really brings out your busty chest.
Starting point is 00:30:30 You know, sometimes. And that's fine. You know, that's all platonic. Yeah, it's tip for tat over here, Ben. Literally. Don't say that, by the way. Tip for tat. Now, I would put this in the flirting category.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Really? Really? A little personal. Maybe not from, I don't for some reason, maybe when you say it to guys, it probably doesn't seem as flirty. But a guy to a lady, it seems like you're really getting into personal territory. Right. So you wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:30:54 you'd agree with him you wouldn't say that to a colleague. I'm too scared to say anything. Yeah, geez, geez, yes, man. I'm a straight white man, 44 years old. Just happy to be here. Keep your mouth shut and just smile. I mean, I think it is a flirty comment, but I don't know why he has a problem with it
Starting point is 00:31:14 because his wife is her own person. If she is a problem with it, she will deal with it, and if she needs you to deal with it, she'll tell you. But maybe she just wants you to give her compliments like that. Maybe that's what she's like hinting towards. Oh God, you guys play a complicated game sometimes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:31 That's just my take on it. I'm like, I don't think you need to get involved. I don't think you're right. You trust her, as you said. Yeah. And if she is a problem with it, she can deal with it. Like if someone said that to man and my wife, I'll be like, all good. She's got good eyes.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Oh my God, you know, but that's, yeah. Functioning eyes, non-gunky. But would I say it to someone, maybe not. And it's a good thing she's coming home and telling him about it as well. So she's not trying to make a secret of the whole sense. situation. So yes, if this was your friend, what would you say to them? Would you say, yes, you better be worried this guy's playing a long, patient, flirty-ass game, nine to five in the office? What would you say, don't worry about it? From a husband who says that his wife has mentioned a guy
Starting point is 00:32:09 at her work that has been giving her compliments, the latest being that her new hair brings out her eyes. She says he's harmless and he thinks it's a bit on the nose. He says the comments are a little bit inappropriate. He wants to know what everyone else thinks. should he be worried? What should he do? Is this guy flirting with his wife at work? Men don't casually just drop in eye-based compliments without an ulterior motive. Right. That's my thoughts and feelings. But now, that's a whole other question whether this person does something or just has the faith and trusts their partner that they're coming home and being honest
Starting point is 00:32:45 and up front about what's going on at work and just goes, hey, I've got a pretty gorgeous partner with nice eyeballs. and everyone else Is complimenting those eyeballs? Is it like She's obviously going to Everyone likes a compliment Does she have to be like Oh you can't talk to me like that
Starting point is 00:33:05 Like you know Like it's making my husband We feel weird Like who cares If she's not going to act on it And she likes the compliments I think it's fine I think it's fine
Starting point is 00:33:14 But I might be in the minority with this So I'm 800 of that's actually If you can give us a call We'd love to talk to you We're getting a lot of messages But people can't talk You know
Starting point is 00:33:21 Some people are too shy other people are out checking wheelie bins. Yeah, well, there's a lot of stuff you need to do in the mornings. Mornings are a busy time. Yeah, to call a radio show. It really does inconvenience your day to day. But first text here was from Annie Taylor Ferguson. She's out checking wheelie bins at the moment.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Loll, she says. I'd be asking, what behaviour has she displayed for him to start flirting with her? Says Annie Taylor Ferguson, wheel bin checker. Could it be a case of she's telling her partner, so he's not worried, and then she has free reign to continue on her flirting? Some, a lot of people actually have said that maybe she needs to, maybe he needs to read between the lines. She's getting something from that guy at work that she's not getting from her husband. Maybe he needs to compliment her some more.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But another person, Emily, said, why is everyone turning this back on the guy? So she says, my partner says it seems like he's flirting with her. He wouldn't say something like that to another woman. 40-year-old straight male here I've done my fair share of flirting in this text says And I can confidence From you for a second
Starting point is 00:34:26 Too young for me I can confidently say that this is a lot of flirting Going on right here But who cares You know like I don't know At least he's like Clearly your husband Well he's not grabbing her butt or anything
Starting point is 00:34:41 She's not acting on it So what are you saying So what you need to summarise Well I don't think the husband needs to A worry or B do anything about it Unless it goes further, but you've got to trust that your wife's not being inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:34:54 She's telling you about it. I don't understand really what the problem is. It's not like he's like, oh, look at your boobs today, sweetheart. You know? He's done a gateway compliment, though, hasn't it? He's done a gateway compliment. I mean, there's nothing wrong with the gateway compliment.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Okay. At least it gets further down the road. Yeah, makes you feel good. Makes you do a bit more fluttering with those eyelids. Get what you need in the corporate world, climb that ladder. Just chill, dude. You got a hoddy. Like you're winning
Starting point is 00:35:21 John O'Ben and Megan The podcast The hits All right saving ends 3 o'clock Sunday Of course So there we go We were just looking out the window
Starting point is 00:35:30 Going Jesus dark for 5 past 7 in the morning Well that would make sense then Was the clock's black Check your fire alarms Forward fall back Yeah My fire
Starting point is 00:35:41 The battery was Doing that thing It was wearing out I'd do the beep Can we just As a smoke alarm industry Just make the battery low beep just 10 seconds apart. What's like this inconvenient sort of minute 15?
Starting point is 00:35:56 And then you get distracted, forget about it. Yeah. Is that there? And then you're wondering. Because you have to go around to all six in the household and stand underneath. You're right. You're like, okay, that one needs changing. It's like an easy solve, guys.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, Megan. Well, we've solved that problem. Now we're on to another one, right? Yeah, so people slide into my day games with issues. Some of them don't always feel confident talking to friends, family or even the other person involved. So we put it to the people and get some advice for them. If you've got one, feel free to slide into my DMs.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Always anonymous. This one... Although you do know the person's name. I do. When they slide into the DMs. We won't say it on air. You can trust us. I don't tell you, that's why.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Over to Shantelle's letter this week. After 15 years of marriage, my husband is giving me the ick. I made him an ice breakfast over the weekend, which isn't that out of the ordinary and he burst into tears. Like is this manipause? He's crying at everything and I know I should find it sweet
Starting point is 00:36:57 but it's just giving me the ick. It feels like nothing is cute anymore and I know people always joke about not liking their husbands after years. So what do I actually do? So how good was the breakfast first? Because they might have been
Starting point is 00:37:13 restaurant quality scrambled eggs that this guy's received. Or terrible. Yeah. That's the other. 15 years, this isn't getting any better. Maybe it's a moment of realization for him. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Do you think something else is going on? Like with him? Like, I don't want to, like, catastrophize anything. No. Catastricize and what of that word is. But we do put these on our Facebook page, and that is a common comment on this post is that everyone's like, is he depressed?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Like, there's a lot going on in the world right now. Is he okay? Yeah. Health issues, you know, relationship issue, you know, work issue. I don't know, you know. Maybe he's got like a diagnosis. He doesn't know how to tell you. Maybe he's cheating on you and now he feels guilty
Starting point is 00:37:52 because you brought him breakfast. Yeah. So many options. We couldn't have picked more extreme options there just to showcase for you. He's just getting like sensitive. He's terminal. He's having a fan. Maybe watch the Warriors.
Starting point is 00:38:03 They had a loss after a couple of good wins. I mean, there's a lot of stuff to get emotional about. You're right. Look, my husband cries like all the time. Like not hysterically but like things make him well up all the time. It could just be like a silly little comment And I'm like, are you crying? Does he give you the heck?
Starting point is 00:38:22 No. I think it's quite sweet. But it's not, the thing is, this guy is suddenly doing it. I've always known that about Andrew. Andrew's a cry. Yeah, he's a cry. That's fine. But this guy suddenly turned into it,
Starting point is 00:38:35 which would suggest that there's something going on. And so she wants to, what is she? Now, a lot of people in this situation, if they have the egg 15 years deep into a marriage, they either leave them or they have an affair, don't they? We don't want those two options. We want a sensible resolution here. My problem is that once you get the act,
Starting point is 00:38:57 it's really hard to undo it. But she also, so it's the crying, but she said nothing is cute anymore. So that suggests that there's other things he's doing that are giving them at the egg. Okay, so let's put it to you. Oh, 800 the hits, 4487, those are the ways to get in touch with us. Every caller that gets on the air gets $100 to put towards the gas tank.
Starting point is 00:39:21 What would you do? Maybe you've had this sort of happen in your relationship. I tell you what, at the Rock Radio Station, I once cried over a guy's leaving. I had to get up and make a speech, and I burst into tears. Tell you what, they did not know how to handle emotion at the Rock. I went in Hidden Studio B. I've seen you cry a few times. I've seen you cry a few times.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But then I'm not married to you. Yeah, it might be giving other people the act. Okay, today's dear Megan is a wife has message. after 15 years of marriage that her husband is giving her the ick. It sounds like there's a few things going on. But the main one she's mentioned is she made him a nice breakfast at the weekend. And when she gave it to him, he cried. And she says he's getting emotional and crying at a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:40:02 It's a sudden thing. And she's... She doesn't like emotions. She doesn't like his emotions. They're giving her the ick. Yeah. It does feel like a conversation needs to be had. I know that breached out to us first and for the hits advice,
Starting point is 00:40:16 but it does feel like a conversation. Not everyone's great communicators, though, like, and how do you bring that up? I don't like that you're crying a lot. Maybe just, is everything okay? Yeah, is everything okay? Because it just seems like you're quite emotional at the moment. The old Kiwi classic, do you need a concrete pill?
Starting point is 00:40:33 You know, that was one that always really helped with mental health. Tilly, good morning. Happy New Year. Oh, happy New Year. Good morning, guys. It's lovely to hear your voice again, Tilly. loyal customer Tilly to the show. We appreciate your ears, your tarting is Tilly.
Starting point is 00:40:50 What would you say to you if this was your friend, having troubles, getting with her crying husband, what would you say to her? I think she should just be so lucky, you know? Like men sometimes, men always find it hard to express their feelings. He's probably just a sensitive guy appreciating her and thinking, oh gosh, look at my lovely wife, you know, she's doing all these things to me.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'd look at it like that. Good on you, Tilly. Positive. We were like, he's having an affair, he's buddy doing this and that, it's guilt. If he's going to have an affair, he's going to have an affair. It'll not be that. I've been there. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:26 It's not when you make them breakfast, they cry. Did you say you've had an affair, Tilly? Oh, no. Oh, sorry, I misheard that. I was like, this is an odd place to confess. 15 years of marriage, same deal. But no crying when I made breakfast. Maybe you should get better at making breakfast
Starting point is 00:41:47 Tilly, thanks for being on air, mate. Every caller on air this week gets $100 free fuel so that will help with the trip to work. Oh, absolutely. I travel an hour a day. Oh, wow. People are putting in some mileage every morning, are they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, well, enjoy that free petrol, Tilly. Thanks for phoning through. Oh, thank you to take my call. All right. Danny, what would you say in this situation? A crying husband after 15 years. Morning guys. Yeah, I've been in a similar situation,
Starting point is 00:42:18 obviously not crying over breakfast or still milk, but I definitely think that when you get older, you definitely get a lot more emotional. And for me, I think it's just communication, but yeah, how do you bridge that communication link? Yeah. Obviously, when you first got together, you obviously had a lot of passion, a lot of hate,
Starting point is 00:42:40 and all that going on. So I was just trying to, I suppose, rekindle that what you originally had to get over that ick. So, communication, yeah. You say you've been in this situation. Did one of you get the ick? Yes, my wife got the ick on me, a few things, actually. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You've been married for 18 years now. So how did she just communicate and bring it up with you? A few times it was like a, I went a, first daughter. It was kind of like the teasing thing going on. So it was about me chewing too loudly. I do that too. I give my wife the act for that too. Yeah, reach that stage of marriage.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And I was just like, your ears have obviously got better or I've like chew. You're like, I've been chewing like this my whole life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so you guys obviously had an open conversation and worked through the differences? Yes, yes. Oh, good. We're working on it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We almost had to go counselling for it, but... You're chewing in another room now? Not masturbating like a cow anymore. To be honest, counselling is great. I recommend that for even couples that are happy as. We had to come of friends of ours who went to counselling before they got married. And they said it was a game changer. You don't get taught how to communicate, you know, and that's what they can teach you in therapy.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It's probably quite good, but times are good. You can go and, you know, so, yeah, work it out. Find problems that you didn't know. Appreciate your call. Yeah, true. Appreciate your call this morning. Every call that gets on the years we said before gets $100. So that's it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Communicate. Thanks, Dan. That's the advice back. Yeah, well, at least ask if he's okay. Because it is a pretty tough time at the moment. And sounds like don't mock. Don't mock. Just come and go, hey, notice you've been a bit emotional lately.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah. It's giving me the ache. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Now someone's been sliding on and slipping and sliding into the congen I suggested Megan Pappas' DMs. Were you looking at the DMs when you're in your sick bed, Megan? No, not really.
Starting point is 00:44:49 No, just trying to focus on getting better. You wore a puffer jacket for an entire day in bed. I wore track pants and a puffer jacket and had covered in blankets. I was freezing just when the weather turned good. I was like, I don't know what's happening here. The uniform of Palmerston North, track pants and a puffer jacket. Don't give me sympathy now, though. I heard you were giving me crap on here.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Mate, for the first time ever, I had empathy. It was Ben who had no trust or belief. He was fully suspicious about your agenda. Hey, this is not what we're getting into now, guys. Sorry, you're really doggling this. That's my question, dear Megan. We'll come back to this. I'll have her in that debate later in the show, all right?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Right now, someone needs her help. Okay, dear Megan, a close friend of mine often babysits my child. She's amazing with them. I trust her completely, and I've always been really grateful. But recently, I found out while babysitting, she took my child to someone else's house without telling me. It was another friend of hers. and apparently there were other adults there and everything was totally safe, but I don't know them.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I didn't find out from her I found out after my child told me. When I asked her about it, she genuinely didn't think it was a problem. She said she was still supervising and she didn't want to bother me while I was out. She also said I never explicitly told her she couldn't do that. But I feel like that's something you don't need to spell out. I expect them to stay where I left them unless I've said otherwise. Now she feels offended and says I don't trust her But I honestly feel a bit portrayed
Starting point is 00:46:18 Who is in the wrong? Oh wow Oh Here this might be a spicy opinion But if you've employed someone Or using the services of someone to look after your child They can do whatever they want They can take that baby wherever they want
Starting point is 00:46:34 Do you know how old the kid is That's probably a big thing as well Like if it is a small baby Then maybe taking it around She says child So I imagine it's not a baby something to them. Yeah, so, what, like at least three.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you trust them to look after your child, well, then you must have to trust them to take them off site wherever they want to go, you know? I just feel like a simple text, a heads-up would have probably solved a lot. Hey, I'm just going around this. I'll keep an eye on them. It probably would have been fine, but that hasn't happened.
Starting point is 00:47:00 It does sound, that message does sound like she's written it in the heat of the moment. She sounds very emotionally inflamed. Okay, so Ben is looking after sweet, sweet, sweet little bastie. Yeah. Okay, your son. I is there as well. Already I'm like, oh. Ben's like, oh, I've got so much stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I can't be stuck at the... He's got to go film some pranks. Oh, if I'm filming, no, I wouldn't take it for filming. Like, yeah, yeah, but I was going, yeah. Where would you take them? Well, like, you're hungry. You want to go to subway? I'm responsible for, yeah, I mean, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:32 You're doing some way? You're going in some way, yeah. Like, I feel like I could do that and do that safely. The pub? Yeah, no, I would take the pub. No, it is, it's not that I don't, and I'm trying to put myself in that situation. It's not that I don't trust Ben. It's just you need to know where they are.
Starting point is 00:47:46 So it's not that I wouldn't want them to take them. It's just like, let me know where they are so that I've got a gauge, you know, you need to know where your kids are at all times. And if you don't want to bother Megan while your babysitting sweet, sweet bastie and I are, you can put a little tracker on Ben so you know where Ben is at all times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 He would hate every part of that. Already got a tracker on him. Okay, well, what's your thoughts on this? Yeah, can you take kids away if you're in charge of them? This person was obviously still saying they were looking after them. Yeah. But the mother's fairly... They obviously trust them, but it's just like there's an expectation.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah. You haven't spelt out your rules to the... Are you okay with this? Can this be done? Or are in the middle of dear Megan. Each week we do this. Someone slides into Megan's DMs and you're more than welcome to as well.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Give us the handle. At Megan underscore Louise Puppers. No. Just at Megan Louise Puppers. There we go. If you want to slide into a DMs with a dilemma, this one has to do with babysitting. Yeah, I'll paraphrase.
Starting point is 00:48:41 because it does sound like it was written in the heat of the moment, but she says a close friend of mine babysits her kid, and she is amazing and she trusts her. However, she took her child to someone else's house without telling her. So her issue is she expects to know where they are at all times. And I understand that as a parent. You want to know where your kids are. But she feels betrayed,
Starting point is 00:49:03 and now her friend feels like she doesn't trust her. Rachel says on our Facebook page, depends on the child's age, which we don't know, but the child spoke to her mum, so you imagine she's about three. Depends on the child's age, I would expect a babysitter to advise a change of location. I'd even expect that of my own parents.
Starting point is 00:49:23 From Margaret, she says you can trust her to take care of your children 100%, so just let her. Yeah, that's where I'm sitting. And also, you could have gaslit the kid. You know what are you talking about, kid? I don't take you anywhere. Three-year-old? Who are you going to believe?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yeah, try. Imagine I want imagination on this kid. It does, yeah. It's an expectation and communication thing, right? So Kristen said you expect to know where your children are at all times. Imagine if there was an earthquake and there's no phone communication. You don't know where your kids have gone. Oh, that's, yeah, no, it's a fair point. Now I feel guilty about saying what I said. Well, shall we go to the phone?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Shall we? Carla, it's lovely to have you on New Zealand's breakfast. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Okay, what's your thoughts on this one, Kay? As a mother, I would expect the child that I've given to look after would let me know before taking the child away. I agree, yeah. Though I do trust her, I do trust her capabilities of looking after my child, but I would be in fear if I didn't know. And another thing was that the child told the mother, not her.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah, that's true. So maybe deep down she had a little bit of guilt. She knew it was the wrong thing to do, and she didn't. It was too late to then tell her friend that she'd taken the kid off sight. If she would have told the mother before the child, then would have been better. But the child told the mother. So, yeah, being a mother, I would want to know where my child is. I think that's what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 There's a text coming through. A good text, actually, saying, agree with the mother. It's one thing to take the child somewhere public, like to subway to get lunch. but another thing to take to a stranger's house that she doesn't know with multiple adults you may trust the one adult but what about the other ones in the situation? Another test here, Angela.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Take the bubble wrap off. Precious, being precious. For me, it's not the fact that she did it is the fact she didn't tell me where they were. Yeah, yeah. Because when you go home and then no one's there, I mean, sure we've got phones and stuff but you're like, I just needed to know where they were.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Oh, let's close the loop on this case, Megan Pappas. What advice are you handing over to this wonderful human being? Well, you say that she's a good. good friend of yours. You don't want to lose a friend over it, so just communicate that in future. Just let me know where they are. It's just a communication breakdown
Starting point is 00:51:43 as these things often are. It's one of those. It's fine, but next time. You don't seem fine. You've got your shoulders shrugged. Let's be fair. That friend is not looking after your children ever again. They're like, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah, she's done. She's done. She's done. I hate looking after that. Not my kids. and Megan the podcast. The Hits. Dear Megan.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Okay, dokey. Time for another, Dear Megan. People slide into my DMs with situations that they want us all to give advice on. I think generally there's some great advice
Starting point is 00:52:20 that gets handed down by the Hits audience. Yeah. I've been getting more and more just because people appreciate other people's opinions as long as we keep it respectful. So today, this one reads
Starting point is 00:52:34 Dear Megan, My five-year-old daughter does dance. And earlier in the month, they started talking about the end-of-term show and all the rehearsals. Honestly, the thought of all the running around and sitting through endless practices just felt overwhelming. So when she asked about the show, I told her there wasn't one anymore, and she didn't need to go back till next term. Great stuff. Now the other kids have been asking where she is,
Starting point is 00:53:01 and she's come home asking why she isn't a part of it. I feel awful and I don't know what to tell her now. Do I admit I lied or try to explain it another way? You've been busted. It's getting to the end of the lying phase of your parenting when they start to find out that their parents aren't that great. They're not great people. Well, you can do that for a while, can't you?
Starting point is 00:53:21 A little white lies, obviously. I don't know how she thought she's going to get away with that, to be honest, because the other kids would be like, where are you? Very gossipy community. Hey, as a dad of a dancer, it's a commitment. It's a commitment. But also in the same breath, You want your kids to find the thing they're passionate about.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Find their people. Ben, I know you get dragged along to a lot of musical theatre. You must have been to a few dudd musicals over your time. And he's going to list them all very shortly. But, you know, that's the commitment you have. You're right. Yeah, when your kids do find something they love, it's great. In saying that, I don't, like I'm just playing devil's advocate,
Starting point is 00:53:54 you can see how someone might get overwhelmed. And if you've got a lot going on and then you have to commit to the dance as well. Yeah. My daughter Andy loves dance. She goes a couple times a week, but she came to us last year and she said, do I have to do the end of year thing? I'm not that. And I was like, hey, great.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Say no more. Say no more. Say no more. Say less. Say less. And that was a sweet spot. I was like, course, that's sweet. Did you have to do any like, oh, that's, yeah, oh, that's a shame.
Starting point is 00:54:19 No, you're like, great. One less thing in the calendar. Yes, I love it. Love going long, but the end of year thing. I'm like, yep, no, I'm with you. I can see, it is a huge commitment. How old is the child, sorry? Five.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Five, yes. You're pretty young, pretty young. You could get away with a... Can you get away with it? I would usually, I don't know, I want to say, be honest. But then your five-year-old's going to know you'd lie to them about something that means a lot to them. And then, you know, trust issues. Oh, you know, but they forget about it.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You know, kids get over stuff. Do they? Or does it come back later in life where everyone goes, to do with their childhood? They turn out as toxic masculinity, social media influences. I stick to kind of saying the truth. truth, no matter how hard it hurts, and then you just sit with them through the hard, the hard moment. Okay, what would you do if this was your friend? Would you tell them to be honest with the child or continue on the line, keep going down the web of deceit? My five-year-old daughter does dance and
Starting point is 00:55:15 earlier in the month they started talking about the end-of-term show and all the rehearsals. Honestly, the thought of running around and sitting through endless practices just felt overwhelming. So she told her daughter they weren't doing them anymore. Yeah, you know some advice I also would give as a dance dad. You can get a lot of stuff done in your car. You know, a lot of it. You can sit on your laptop and look like a pest who's hacking someone's Wi-Fi network. But I find myself really productive in that vehicle.
Starting point is 00:55:42 You can sleep in there, can have naps. Yeah, probably numbers of distractions of that. You're right. So, you know, you can take advantage of that, but that's not the issue. She's been caught lying by her child. Her five-year-old daughters found out that she was lying when kids came home and were like, Why aren't you at rehearsals? She wants to know what to do now.
Starting point is 00:56:00 As soon as she said overwhelming, like my default was to be like caring because like it can be overwhelming as a parent. But a lot of people are just calling her selfish. I like this one from Rachel on our Facebook. She said, honestly, I hear you. Often after school activities are run by talented and passionate individuals. Sometimes they tend to forget the kids and their families have so much on their plate.
Starting point is 00:56:23 I'm guessing you've probably got a lot going on and you do need to notice when you need to slow down and rest, so I understand. Honestly, looking at you, we had the Manifest Festival on Friday, and looking at you and Andrew who were juggling children, and he came from rehearsal, he turned up to a whole big situation. And I was like, damn, we are pretty glad to be through that period of parenting. It is a juggle. It's a spinning plate scenario.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Chase, should this mother continue the lie, continue to torment and gaslight a child, or come clean? I reckon she should have given her the option, really. That way it sort of gives, you know, if she changes her mind down the track, you can be like, well, you know, I did give you the option and you chose that you didn't want to do it instead of just saying that they weren't doing it, I guess. Right, okay, so put on the kids. So even though the parent didn't want to take them along, give the option,
Starting point is 00:57:19 and then obviously just suck it up, basically. Yeah, well, I've got five kids and they're all taking up sports, and it is overwhelming and hard to juggle them all to get them all to a sports practice and that. And it is a lot, but at least if you give them the option, then just sort of, like I say, you know, if they really want to do it, then they got it, you know, it's something they want to pursue. Then, you know, you can, like, you know, really suck it up. You suck it up. Next time I'm having a winch, I'm going to think of you chase with your five kids.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah, geez, you must be fertile. I feel pregnant just talking to you. It's hard work, but you. You know, hey, you make it work, you know, and I'd like to say, you know, they've all taken up sports and, you know, it's just part of parenting, I guess. That must be a juggle for you. Yeah, no weekend for you, but that's pretty awesome that you're doing that. So thank you for sharing us. There you go.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Five kids. That's five kids. Well done, Chase. Sounds like a great dad. Cheers, guys. Have good days. You too, buddy. And he had time to call us as well.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Probably didn't have time to call us, but he did anyway. So what's the advice we're going to hand over, Megan? Lots of texts, lots of feedback on social media. I think the consensus is. Don't gaslight your children. Don't lie to them. Well, because later in life you're going to be like, don't lie to me. You know, when they're teenagers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:31 So they're going to, yeah. And a lot of people are saying as well, if you feel overwhelmed, get a carpool situation going, talk to the other parents and get some help from others. People are always willing to give you a hand. Get YouTube to teach them how to dance. So there we go. If you wanted to get any advice from Dear Megan, you can slide into her DMs with your personal issues
Starting point is 00:58:49 and we'll air your laundry on the radio.

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