Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - ENTY: What Did Tom Cruise Do To A Fish!?!?

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

We catch up with ENTY for all of this week's Hollywood scoop!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Spilling the tea on Hollywood's A-listers. Kardashians. I have met every single one. Exposing scandals. She's not a good person, but either is he. Digging the dirt. Is she a diva? Yes.

And finding out what's going on behind the scenes. Yelling at cast members. Yes. It was a script. No. His identity is a secret. But his stories have been proven right time and time again. This is NT.

From the land where the lips are big, but not as big as his heart, Ante, welcome. Oh my goodness, that's a touching one. Yeah. Have you guys ever had lip fillers or any kind of plastic surgery, Botox, anything like that? Oh, I'd die for it, mate. We haven't, but geez, you're thinking about it, that's for sure. Ben's looking at the wrinkles on my face going, they could do with a couple of jabs, that's for sure.

Deep crevices up there, NT. How have you been, buddy? I've been great. Did you guys have a great vacation? Yeah, we did. We had a nice couple of weeks, but plenty has been going on, particularly over your side of the world. This big strike that's going on, it was the writers, now it seems like the actors.

I mean, what does that mean for Hollywood? Okay, well, before, when it was just the writers, you had a bunch of people who would creatively worded picket lines, you know, walking around and things like that. And technically nothing was supposed to get written. All right. But let's give you an example. Let's say, for example, that American Horror Story was being shot, which it was.

And let's say, for example, that Ryan Murphy, who's a writer but also the producer, so he can be there on the show because there's supposedly no writing going on. Now, I'm not going to accuse him of anything or anything like that. But let's say while they're acting, and Kim Kardashian, who's on the show or whatever, and she delivers a line, and Ryan Murphy goes, gosh, that line just isn't right. I need to change two words on it. If he changes two words on it, then he is basically going against what he's supposed to be doing. He has broken the strike.

He's not allowed to write anything. But do you think, and I'm just using him as an example. I don't have any. This is all hypothetical because there's a lot of different shows with the same kind of situation, and Ryan Murphy is a writer. He is a showrunner. But in that same scenario, if a line is not working, do you think that a showrunner or somebody is going to go, let's just change it. So you say this. And the person, the actor goes, OK, great.

I'll say that line. OK, well, you have broken the strike. You have gone against you across the picket line as soon as you do that. But you know what? It was probably happening every day yeah however now if you don't have the actor to deliver the line it's a lot tougher to have somebody come in and go i didn't like that line let's oh they're not here for them to take it from the top it is it feels like it's just going to crumble the entire industry now, what does it mean? So no movies, no TV shows are going to be written, no acting is going to be done in them, obviously. For how long? Okay, well, first of all, there are a lot of exceptions to the rule.

So reality shows, they're still good. Game shows, they're still good. Art, daytime, drama, soap operas, I don't know what you guys call them uh but you're still allowed to act in those you're still allowed to write for them so the daytime dramas continue forever the daytime dramas are generally three or four months ahead of whatever you're seeing them anyway but in the u.s um that's all allowed to continue because they're under a different agreement they're under um crappy crappy show agreement are they yeah and and you guys have to realize that at least in the u.s you know the because of streaming and everything the traditional model has already been upended if this had been the traditional model where back in the day where there's very few you know outlets

for programming the new fall season for us, fall, would be in September. So everything would start gearing up, writing at the end of July, right about now, beginning of August, and they'd start filming because they'd really want first week of September, second week of September is when the shows would start, and you need everything to be ready to go. Obviously, that would put a big time crunch on it.

And they'd say, oh, my gosh, we have to have everything ready. We have to have this thing settled in the next two or three weeks. We're not going to have a fall television season. But with streaming, that's kind of all thrown out the window. And a lot of networks like ABC has already announced some kind of lineup that's primarily game shows and reality shows that has no primetime programming whatsoever, no scripted programming whatsoever. So they're willing to go forever. And then think about Netflix. And here's the thing. So Netflix, OK, so you're not going to get maybe season two of Wednesday when you want it. But you know what they can do? They can take some

popular show. And I'm just going to use this as an example, of Ragnarok, which is a Norwegian version of Thor, which was really popular in the US, which is not covered by the same rules, and they have a new season of it, throw some subtitles on it, and then you have 12 hours of program.

Right. You know, it's a totally different kind of beast. Yeah, there's workarounds, I see. You know what,'s There's workarounds There's a totally different Kind of beast Yeah there's workarounds I see You know what NT

I saw over the weekend That there's a new movie Out with Matt Damon Robert Downey Jr Emily Blunt And they were on The red carpet And they all walked off

In support of the writers Which I thought was awesome You know the actors Are supporting the writers But then I thought What would NT think Was that a publicity stunt For the movie Or was it actually You know the actors are supporting the writers but then i thought what would enti think would that was it was it a publicity stunt for the movie or was it actually you know the timing of it seemed like they were on the red carpet and then they did it and i'm like oh no i'm thinking

like enti now okay here's the thing with that particular situation they were not supporting the writers they the that's when sag announced the strike and so they left because once the sag announced the strike you're not allowed to promote the movie anymore because it's covered under the contract, so you're not allowed to promote it at all. So they announced it the exact moment they're walking on the red carpet. The news came through. Not exactly. But I mean, close enough where it was going to happen.

But yeah, they would never, ever, ever, ever, ever ever however many evers i can throw in there walk off the the red carpet to support the writers they had had chances after chances after chances all the barbie people could have done it they don't care about the writers they don't care at all they care about themselves yeah they're actors they're like radio hosts all we do is care about themselves. Yeah, they're actors. They're like radio hosts. All we do is care about ourselves as well. So the union, I think, is 160,000 members or something, the Actors Guild. What big names are part of the union? What big names aren't part of the union? And if you're not part of the union, can you still keep acting?

Okay, well, almost everybody is part of the union. But you have to think about it. So even though, and here's a little tidbit for you guys. Okay, well, almost everybody is part of the union. But you have to think about, so even though, and here's a little tidbit for you guys. So when you think about, let's say, the Golden Globes, okay? I want you to think about that maybe, maybe 200 people vote on them. Okay, I think there's 500 members. About 200 vote. Okay, so 200 people are voting on the Golden Globes. The SAG Awards, 160,000 people vote.

So you get totally different kind of results when you have 160,000 people voting as opposed to like 200. And it's also very easy to influence 200 people, not so easy to influence 160,000 people. So that's something to keep in mind when you watch the Golden Globes. Now, out of those 160,000, how many people have health insurance? A fraction, maybe like 5,000, 10,000 out of the 160,000 have health insurance because they don't earn enough, because you have to earn a certain amount of money, even though you're a member of SAG,

to get free health insurance and the other benefits of SAG. And one of the things about the Screen Actors Guild is there are a lot of productions that aren't covered by Screen Actors Guild. In fact, there's more and more and more. You know, they're non-union things. Often, it used to be non-union would just be commercials. commercials and uh in fact commercials were the last time sag i think went on strike was the commercial actors for sag went on strike maybe in year 2000 or something the last time both were on sag and the writers was back in 1960 and to give you an idea ronald reagan was the president of the screen actors guild back then oh wow so yeah So that gives you an idea how long ago that was. I didn't realize.

Did you see on the news? We'll play some audio now. Bloody Fran Drescher, the nanny. She's the president of the guild. Incredible. She is. She delivered an impassioned speech. Yeah, I saw that floating around on social media.

Yeah. You guys always want me to be cynical, right? My little, my little cynical heart. Fran Drescher had been in Italy at the Dolce & Gabbana show and she had been missing MIA for two weeks while all of this was going on. And while SAG was like, okay, well, let's call in federal mediators. Let's extend it for a week. Can we save it? Whatever. Where's Fran? Where's Fran? Where's Fran? Oh, she's over in Italy at the Dolce and Gabbana show. She's doing a little vacation. Then what happened was Kim Kardashian took a selfie with Fran Drescher at a Dolce and Gabbana fashion show and saying, oh my gosh, it's Fran Drescher. She's on my vision board, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it's this, and this is like two days, blah, blah, blah. And it's this. And this is like two days before everybody, 160,000 people are going to be out of work as actors. And all the people in the industry, drivers, electricians, sound people, everything, they'll all be out of work. And there she is taking selfies with Kim Kardashian. And so everybody let Fran have it. And so what happens she comes back and then she has this impassioned speech about oh my gosh they're trying to take everything from us if she had not been busted at that dolce and gabbana show with kim kardashian

looking like the cat ate the canary i don't know if you would have got that same speech wow okay but i mean no one wants to miss mr dolce and gabbana show even if 160 000 people's lives are on the line there so how far does it stretch like in terms of the writers strike can they not write a birthday card in terms of the acting can they is there no acting they can't act happy can't act sad just neutral can't do like a school play. Okay. Anything that's covered under the SAG contract. So like the things I told you before, like the daytime, you're okay. If you want to do a reality show, a game show, you can go do that.

Like if you want to go do Celebrity Jeopardy or Celebrity Wheel of Fortune, it's good on you. If you've already signed on to do an award show and there's a skit or something like that, you're allowed to do that if you've already signed on to do it. The other thing is basically you really you're going to get in a lot of trouble. A school play, you're fine. Something anything that's not covered under the SAG after contract, you're covered. Writers, it's the same kind of thing. You know, if you're not as long as you're not writing on some show that has, you know,

Guild of Members or something, you're OK. You know, if you want to write greeting cards, you want guild of members or something you're okay you know if you want to to write greeting cards you want to write a book you want to write a screenplay you can write a screenplay you just can't pitch it until after wow so there's gonna be a lot of scripts backing up over this time i imagine and now because there's the you know the market is very quiet, now is the time, Ben, for me to re-release Ben Boyce's one-man love tape. I shot it. The lighting was a bit shaky. The acting was impeccable. There was emotion.

There was tears at the end of it. Do you think we should get that out there now, NT? Yeah, you're making fun of it, but here's the thing. If you have some kind of reality show that's any kind of decent now's the time to pitch it because they're they're going to look for you know netflix is going to say okay we need more reality we need more this we need more that you know lots of reality shows so whatever you thought didn't have a chance it might you know and you know there's netflix new zealand productions correct i mean they have original productions in New Zealand and stuff for the New Zealand market? No, not original ones, but they do come here and film a lot, Netflix do, yeah.

Okay. But you know the thing is, somebody probably maybe pitches it, Australia, you know? I mean, so I would, this is the time. If you've got something to pitch, pitch it. You never know. Here's my idea. You might go, oh, you pitch it. You never know. Here's my idea. I'm an executive, Mike. Oh, you know, I'm some money.

Here's my idea, okay? Hot, hot, randy, muscly people. You put them all on an island, okay? I haven't figured out what happens after that. I think it's been done a million times, but it's probably got potential. Hot, randy, muscly people island. To continue working.

Hey, Enty, we want to talk to you about the biggest movie it seems to be. Well, there's a couple of big movies out this week, but one in particular, the Barbie movie, seems to be everywhere. Yeah, it's an interesting thing is that Barbie, they've just dumped all this promotional money on it. And one of the reasons I'm always, again, my cynical, skeptical heart is, look, if you were going to go see if you were going to go see Barbie, you're going to go see it. Right. I don't think any amount of marketing is going to change your mind. You are either going to see Barbie or you're like, I'm never seeing Barbie.

There's not like in between. It's like you either like Chrissy Teigen or you hate Chrissy Teigen. There's no in between. So the same with, with Barbie, but yet they've dumped like two or $300 million into promotion and marketing, which means that anybody who's got backend money is not going to get any until forever because they're just like, here's what we're going to do. Cause this is going to make a lot of money. Let's spend a lot of money on promotion or whatever, and put that thing so negative that it never turns a profit, you know, until the end of time. So that's kind of what they've done. Barbie's tracking at like $100 million or $90 million or something like that.

And to give you an idea, Indiana Jones didn't do $100 million. Mission Impossible, 64, whatever number we're up to, didn't do $100 million. The Flash didn't do $100 million. So Barbie to do 90 100 million dollars is more than any of those like mission impossible the most recent one it had five days and it didn't break 80 million wow so that yeah everybody like if you look at the headlines tom cruise is such a butt kisser that um you'll see the headlines that say oh you know it made 80 million dollars or whatever and they they forget to tell you well that was five was five days, and that's still less than Indiana Jones,

but you guys trashed Indiana Jones for three days straight because you said it didn't make any money. So, but anyway, Barbie's going to make its money, and then it's going against Oppenheimer, and Oppenheimer, like, Christopher Nolan's upset. I'm like, okay, the people who are going to see Oppenheimer, the people who are going to see Barbie, they're not in the same Venn diagram. Okay? They're not. see Barbie, they're not in the same Venn diagram. Okay?

They're not. It's just they're not. You know, the people who are going to see Barbie are going to see Barbie. They're not, oh, honey, should we see Barbie or should we see Oppenheimer? That conversation is not happening. So, you know, I think that now the problem with Barbie is that the reviews are going to be horrible. And originally everybody thought, oh, they're going to be really, really good reviews. And then I think that so there was an embargo.

And an embargo is when the reviewers aren't allowed to publish it until a certain date. And the movie studio extended that date by a week to where they're not allowed to come out until the day before the movie comes out, which is never a good thing. Of course, because they're not favorable reviews. Jeez, that's a great play from them. Now, what happens with the actor's strike? Are we going to see bloody Robbie and Gosling sauntering up and down the pink carpet, no doubt?

Or they're not appearing at those things or doing interviews? Yeah, they're all done. They can't. Oh, that probably hurts the promotion of the film. I don't think so. Because again, going back to it, they had already done so much.

Like they had hit every pink carpet around the world and things like that. You know, in anticipation, somebody goes, look, if there is a strike, let's go ahead and do all this promo early. Because originally the strike would have been maybe like two weeks ago. So they really had a whole bunch of things even planned for prior to that. And the international stuff, which normally comes after, say, the Los Angeles premiere,

they did a lot of that up front, too. So that way they could get it all done. There wasn't a whole lot more for them to do other than, say, like talk show stuff and other things, which they can't do. But again, it doesn't matter because you're either going to it or you're not going to it. So are you guys, look, let's prove my point. Are you guys going to go see Barbie?

Listen, it wasn't, I'm probably not in the Target demo, but then my son saw the trailer and he's like, Will Ferrell's in Barbie. So it sparked his interest. I know you said that. I'm going tonight. Do you know I'm going tonight? He's going tonight. There you go.

And then on Saturday, my other daughter, who I'm not taking tonight, wants to go as well. So I'm going twice in one week, Auntie. I'm part of that $100 million. See? Great. So you're going twice a week, but you had not planned on that. How did you plan on going to see Oppenheimer?

No, but it does. It feels like it's going to be one of those movies that everyone's going to say is brilliant and I'll probably end up watching it maybe what maybe outside the theaters well you know what you're going to be out here this is the thing about Barbie is they've been scared is Oppenheimer is going to win every single sound effect uh award in the Oscars and also probably visual effects. And the thing is, is that Nolan was so upset about Barbie that he jacked up the volume on the thing. And it literally shakes the entire theater.

So if there is a screen that is shared with Barbie, it is going to come through there just full blast. Wow. So, you know, whether or not you want to hear Oppenheimer, if your screen shares the screen with Oppenheimer, you're going to hear certain parts of it. What I found interesting too about Barbie, Amy Schumer was meant to play Barbie in 2016,

but she walked away. She said she had a different vision for the character. Yeah. Does anybody really believe her? That the thing i did i just read it on the internet i know because we believe everything we read on the internet no i believe that there was some incarnation some version of barbie and then amy schumer was there i always thought that what it was was like like barbie like let herself go to hell and you know maybe had like a drinking problem had some issues with ken and then it's like here you go it's like that

movie fred claus right you know oh yeah vince vaughn where like vince yeah where vince vaughn is like the you know santa claus's horrible kind of brother and borrowing money and loan sharking and getting into trouble with bookies and stuff like that. That's kind of what I figured Amy Schumer's character was going to be. And I could find that humorous. But I don't think that it was the Barbie

like we're imagining a Barbie. No, it's probably not on brand. Barbie who's kind of just a bit of a shambles drinking problem. Do they address, do you know, Ken? probably not on brand. Barbie, who's kind of just a bit of a shambles, a drinking problem. Do they address, do you know, Ken? Ken's castration? Because Ken, the molded doll Ken, has got no downstairs.

There's no, sort of nothing. Do they talk about that in the movie? I don't think so. I'm not sure, though. I am not the target audience either, and I probably won't go see it. I will probably watch it when it, you know, gets to cable or whatever. But I'm not going to sit there and watch it.

If I'm on an airplane and I see it, I might watch it. But I think that Ryan Gosling is an inspired choice for it. Yeah. And, you know, because he's older and Ken supposedly, you know, pretty young. And I think that from one of the marketing things that was genius on all of this was if you go back to when they started filming it, like just the first few shots, the first few days, and they're out on Venice beach, right. And they're wearing the bright pink and, and the blonde hair and they're at Venice beach., right? And they're wearing the bright pink and the blonde hair.

And they're at Venice Beach. So the paparazzi are taking photos. And, you know, whether or not they ever use any of those scenes in the movie, it does not matter. No. Because the entire world has been waiting for Barbie ever since the first days of shooting when they went out to Venice Beach in their rollerblades and they shot those scenes. And all those pictures were taken. I actually thought about that over the weekend because every trailer that you see for the movie,

it looks like it's set in the Barbie world. So filming on a location like Venice Beach is definitely not the Barbie world. We've been there before, Giorno. Mate, we went to Venice Beach on a Tuesday morning. It was glum overcast and just an extraordinary amount of homeless people. Yeah, Venice Beach. And the other thing that people always think about, first of all, when they think about L.A., is they think that it's always sunny and everything. But, you know, we have terms.

Like if you come in May, we call it May Gray. Maybe the clouds will burn, The fog will burn off. Maybe it won't. The June gloom. June gloom. Maybe the burn off. Maybe it won't. And then, you know, some people extend it to like July day where it's like, okay, it's

another month. You know, I have been on Santa Monica beach, you know, about this time in July and I, I was freezing and I needed to get warm because it was so, so cold. And people just like, oh, it's always sunny in 75 or like you guys sunny in 25. Yeah, you know, most of the time it is. But, you know, tell you what, in the morning, in the summertime, until like one o'clock in the afternoon, it can be really, really cold. Yeah, well, it was good that day.

They were taking the shots of Gosling and Robbie. Do you know, we watched this guy, and he looked exactly like me, and he was moving stuff, just nowhere in particular, but he'd move stuff, he'd move a box 10 metres away, and then he'd rush back, and he was moving a trolley,

and then he'd come back, and then he'd move a tent the other way, and he was just doing stuff. He was just very busy doing stuff, and Ben, you named him? L.A. Jono. L.A. Jono. He looked like me,

and he was just very busy but not actually getting much done but just looking incredibly busy so he was inspiring tom cruise mission impossible are we loving it well apparently not um like i said i mean 80 million in five days now here's the thing the international is going to make up for it a little bit um indiana jones the international going to make up for it a little bit. Indiana Jones, the International didn't make up for it. The Flash International definitely didn't make up for it. But it was extremely disappointing box office.

And Mission Impossible, I believe that the promotion of marketing was $300 million is what they spent. And that's just a promotion of marketing. That's not the actual you know film budget or anything and i think part of the problem is that you know they thought about you know they did divide this into two films instead of one and you know i think everyone was expecting a repeat of maverick but mission impossible is not maverick maverick had a built-in audience that was waiting 40 years for a sequel and you know that was that was something that everybody was excited about and it was something that young people get excited about because they had never seen it or maybe they caught it on cable or whatever and then you had

this built-in audience of people like i said who had waited 40 years and then it was a really good movie but mission impossible they're all the same. Every single one's the same. They just give a different name to it. Well, it's always like, here's an impossible mission, but he seems to succeed 100% of the time. Doing some wild stunts, though. The one with the motorbike. Oh, yeah, I saw that online.

Yeah, apparently he did it multiple times, and there was a few motorbikes that sadly perished, but Tom Cruise didn't perish where he rode a motorbike up a ramp and into over a huge cliff and ended up parachuting. It was epic. I mean, that was, I mean, I would never do it. And then there's ones where he's like hanging off the planes and stuff like that. And then there's been talk that maybe he doesn't do every single one of his own stunts, but the only ones that you ever see are the ones that there's film of.

Now, the ones that there's film of, those are pretty remarkable. They are. But he's not doing every single one. They are. He's a borderline psychopath. Have you seen him sitting just casually sitting on top of the bloody Burj Khalifa in Dubai? Yeah, I mean, come on. I'm not even going in the top.

I'm not going on the top floor inside that building. No. Let alone climbing up that tower or whatever. He climbed out of a helicopter. He did that too. Yeah, you know, I'm not doing that. I'm not going on top of that building and strapping myself and holding on. Why?

What's in it for me? It's so high. A great selfie. He had no harness. It was wild. It was pretty incredible. I mean, a lot of interest in Tom Cruise. There's been a lot of things said about him over the years.

Amazing, amazing actor and so many incredible movies. But I see him now there, he's kind of addressing some, I guess, rumors about him. Like people couldn't look him in the eye on movie sets and things like that. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's true. I mean, I know that he says, oh, no, it's not, or whatever mean i think that that's true i mean i know that he says oh no it's not or whatever we had it that's true you can't look at him you can't talk to him he's not going to talk to you you know what if you guys want a crazy rumor and this was this was

absolutely insane bonkers kind of thing and i'm not talking about scientology we don't have to go there or whatever um but i don't know it was a few years back and somebody sent me a blind item and it was obviously ridiculous. It didn't make any sense, but it was so funny that I just, you know, I published it anyway. And that led to a series of other people that sent it blind. So if you Google Tom Cruise fish blind item, you will get some of the most spectacularly written blind items about Tom Cruise and what he does with fish. And it is not eat them generally. But it's just I don't know. It took a life of its own for about a year.

And there was just nonstop. And everybody still talks about it. For whatever reason, everybody was enamored, thrilled, loved any kind of Tom Cruise fish blind item. And I like that. But yeah, the whole looking into your eyes, you couldn't look into his eyes. Tom Cruise is a movie star movie star. I shook his hand once, didn't he? There's my Hollywood story. Did you stare into his eyes? I went along and watched the Jimmy Kimmel show in Los Angeles. You have no idea who the guests are going to be before sort of turning up.

Tom Cruise came out, and they did some sort of joke where they gave each other Christmas – I think it was around Christmas time, so Christmas presents. And he'd given Jimmy Kimmel a car. That was the gag. And Jimmy Kimmel would give him popcorn because he likes movies. And so it wasn't a very good present was the joke. And then Tom Cruise ended up handing out popcorn from this massive popcorn box.

Everyone in the audience went around and started shaking everyone's hands. I was like, oh, my goodness. It's Tom Cruise just shaking hands. And look, all these years later, you still like him and you ignore all the Scientology stuff. He shook your hand and gave you popcorn. I signed up for Scientology that day, mate. That was the handshake. Well, you're right.

He gave me popcorn, he shook my hand. I was like, wow. And they said the guy who was the warm-up guy for Jimmy Kimmel was like, no one really ever goes into the audience like that. That's pretty unusual for someone to ever do that and to go around and you know to to touch all the audience's hands now nt i'm not even going to let you respond to that cynical nt what do you want to say to that no i mean that's what he does look i i told you this guys i tell everybody you're not hired for your acting you're hired for your promotional skills and tom cruise has exceptional a plus list promotional skills he and the rock right just okay

how are you going to promote it well let's let's show a bunch of videos of me doing my own stunts let me go to jimmy kimball and shake everybody's hand in the audience let's do i will do whatever ridiculous gag you want me to do to get people to go to the movie, to get people to relate to me, to get people to scream, oh my gosh, and throw themselves at me, I will do whatever you want. I will get, you know, Jono and Ben, I will get them talking about me every day in New Zealand. All you have to do is let me shake their hand for five seconds and I will, they will talk about me for 10 years.

And we still are. When was that? That was probably longer ago. It was probably 15 years ago. It was the greatest handshake I've ever had, NT. Now, NT, I've just researched, I've just Googled Tom Cruise fish and the rumors surrounding Tom Cruise and what he does with fish. And I'll tell you what, NT, after reading that,

he would not be welcome to my house for Fish and Chip Friday. I'm just saying that it took a life of its own. And it's remarkable how many people want more Tom Cruise fish stories. And I'm not sure why. You are a great man, Enty. Love catching up with you. You keep safe over there, mate. And I really appreciate your time this morning.

All right, you guys have a great week. See you, Enty.