Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - February 18 - Jono Is In Big Trouble With A Listener!

Episode Date: February 17, 2021

Kia Ora! Today we were joined by SURPRISE bachelor, Moses Mackay! He's in the kiwi singing trio SOL3MIO and is a wonderful man, we're sure the ladies will be lining up! Who even knew we were going to have a Bachelor while the Bachelorette is still going on!? We also have a long-time listener who is not happy with Jono, after he made a promise to her YEARS ago that he still hasn't fulfilled. Finally, we discussed whether it's ok to wear jewellery from an ex while you're with your current partner!?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jono and Ben, new to your mornings. Friends of Skinny, New Zealand's most recommended telco. Just when you thought you couldn't get enough of Jono and Ben, you can have them anywhere, anytime. Welcome to the Jono and Ben podcast. Welcome to the podcast, time stamped 18th of Feb, Thursday, it's 2021. And I tell you what, if you're listening to this in 2056, firstly are you doing with your life yeah but uh secondly what was going on well uh new zealand had just come out of a little lockdown three-day lockdown there now i like to sort of say what's going to be on the podcast at the top and it's something because again frustrate you i think it's frustrated people my daughter andy got quite frustrated yesterday watching the press conference

about the new you know potential lockdown or level changes in new zealand she was like just tell us what's going to happen and then get into the reasons behind it and i feel like that could be like the case of the podcast would you and so they uh should be taking their uh formatics lead from a eight-year-old but she actually probably speaks for the masses okay guys we're going to change levels we're all going down a level. Here's the reason why. And everyone goes, oh, okay. But they love to make it a show.

Ashley Anderson and they love to tie it out and stick around. You've had some freedoms. You've had some things. Back after this break. We've made some choices. Yeah. So anyway, today on the podcast. It's like a rose ceremony on The Bachelor, isn't it? Today on the podcast, The Bachelor, the new Bachelor in New Zealand has just been announced.

And a big surprise uh i think it's awesome too uh who this person is uh someone who you will know very exciting they join us on the podcast and someone my mum knows we surprised surprised my mum with a call with the bachelor and she's quite infatuated with the bachelor do you know we uh posted on the show's instagram uh a photo of this and of The Bachelor saying we're going to be talking to him and Jenny, one of the few comments that we had was I ought to be so much younger. I just

love this guy. She is in love with him. I know, I know. You've got to keep her away from him. I'm surprised that she's still allowed to go to concerts. A restraining order. As well as that, Jono, a bit of a complaint laid against you

and we try and sort that out today. Something that happened a couple of years ago, you hadn't followed through on something, so we get to the bottom of that with some awkward radio. And as well as that,

can you wear jewellery from an ex-partner? That's the big debate on the show today. If you get a piece of jewellery, can you wear that if you're in a new relationship? What if it's

your ex-girlfriend bought you a nipple ring?ery, can you wear that if you're in a new relationship? What if it's your ex-girlfriend bought you a nipple ring? Because I know you have your nipples pierced. I did it for a TV set. I had it on. It actually hurt more taking it out. I did it for a stunt too, back in the stunty days. Gee, it is

really painful. I don't know why anyone would want it done. I did see someone once um put their sunglasses through the ring and sort of walk around like holding it you know like it's like an extra like you know yeah i was like oh maybe that's the reason why you see they put the uh not the lens the uh the pit you put behind your ear they sort of put that down through the ring and sort of had the sunglasses sitting there and i I was like, well, maybe that's why. Maybe that's a practical use for it.

You could probably tie it up and ride a flying fox with it, couldn't you? Oh, jeez. Hanging off a flying fox. But yeah, no, I remember that being excruciating, yeah. So are you a fan of a person wearing their ex's jewellery in a new relationship? Oh, I understand why people are like, oh, it's just a nice bit of jewelry but i think it's i just find it i find it a bit weird you know like i find it i find that there's such a as you said it's such a personal connection to jewelry that i kind of feel like there's they're still kind of carrying that personal connection with so no it's probably a no

for me on that one but hey each to their own yeah Yeah, wow, that's a turnout for the books usually. I can see both sides of the story. Well, I can. I say no, but I can also see the other side. Well, you enjoy the podcast. That's your job, okay? And if you don't enjoy the podcast, there's nothing we can do. We've tried our best, which, as it turns out, is not that good.

Jono and Ben, or as they're known in the office, those two. Jono and Ben, New as they're known in the office, those two. Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast on the hits. Now you'll know Moses Mackay from New Zealand's amazing operatic trio, Solo Meo. They are incredible. They're also very funny, hilarious

guys. Moses was also on Celebrity Treasure Island last year on TVNZ2 and last night he was just announced as the new Bachelor. I know, wild. Caught everyone by surprise. I know, the Bachelor is going to be Moses. It's like, you know him, we know him, it's Moses. And he joins us now on New Zealand

Breakfast, New Zealand's Breakfast Moses. Is this who I think it is? It's Gavin and Steve. Moses, how's it going, buddy? Oh, not too bad, Gavin, how's it going buddy? Oh, not too bad Gavin, how's it going? We're battling away here mate Bailing away Mate, you're the bachelor

Surprise I don't know if this is news to you Yeah, this is very exciting Yeah, it was a thing I don't know how much you guys know But we filmed it end of last year I don't know how much you guys know, but we filmed at end of last year. I don't want to reveal too much. No, no.

So my first question was, were you single when you headed into the filming process? And did your partner know? Yeah, well, I sat my wife down and I asked her. This is going to be a great move for our career, honey. Just roll with it. It all makes sense in the end. Oh, well, it must be.

Was it a big decision? Because obviously, you know, you do the radio in the mornings, you've got Solomier as well, you know. Was it a big decision to embark on this journey? You know, when they asked me to do it, my first off the bat, I said to the company,

I said, guys, no. I was like, sure, is there anything else? That's not really my stick. I never would have thought in a million years I'd ever be on a reality TV show called The Bachelor. I haven't seen the show. To this day, I've never seen the show.

You know what it's about, right? Yeah. Well, now I do. Apparently, I had to date 22 people. You've filmed it. You guys have told me. Apparently I had to date 22 people. I thought it was a cooking show. That's the spatula. I thought it was called a spatula.

Well, we did actually talk to the other members of Solomio and we were like, what would Moses be like? Would you want to date him? Would you want to go on the show? And this is what Pene and Amitai had to say. Have a listen. The reason why I wouldn't date Moses, honestly, is because I'm lactose intolerant and that's too much cheese.

So, you know, these are your mates. These are your cousins. These are your cousins. This is whānau. Okay, here's another one. I wouldn't want to date Moses because he wears Crocs. This is a roasting of the new bachelor.

Another reason why I wouldn't date Moses is because I don't want to date someone who showers every third day. These are made-up stuff or home truths coming out right now, Moses. I'm still trying to find reasons why you wouldn't date me. Who needs friends, eh, when you've got family like that? Oh, you know what, family, they keep it real. They keep it real. That's why I love them.

And that's why they would never be on The Bachelor, because I would roast them. Seriously, though, I imagine it's quite an emotional rollercoaster going through the journey of finding love in front of the nation. It was probably one of the most challenging things I've ever done. And I've done a lot of things in my life, but this would probably be one of the most challenging. I was actually still doing the radio show during all the filming. So it was seven days nonstop, and I was just living in this totally bizarre world of doing

radio from six to nine every morning and then filming for the rest of the day up until I couldn't keep my eyes open. Wow. I imagine you couldn't really talk to anyone and there's a lot of confidentiality around the show, so it's not like you could sit down with your buddies and sort of talk things through. Yeah, there was no debriefing or anything and I guess what a lot of people don't really know about me is I'm quite an introverted person

or more like an extroverted introvert as in like I'm extroverted with the people I'm comfortable with but it put me in a very I guess vulnerable situation, very difficult, challenging situation emotionally it was a lot, it was a lot

I'm not going to lie. Did you have to interrupt dates for radio voice breaks? Oh, there, I'll just take a call here. I'll be back for you in a second. Good on you for doing it, man. You've got to, you know, and I don't know if you've ended up with someone or not. Whatever way you've gone,

it's going to be a very hard secret to keep. People are going to be grilling you. Yeah, well, yeah. Well, they, they, they, everyone's been trying to find out what exactly happened. I can't say anything, but all I can say is, you know, I went into the whole experience with an open mind and open heart. I didn't exactly go in looking for the right person.

You know, I think that's such an unrealistic idea to find the perfect match for yourself. I feel like the first question people need to ask is, am I the right person? Am I ready to date? Am I ready to be vulnerable and step into a relationship? And then once you have that sensibility about you, you know, something wonderful can happen, you know?

And I feel like if you just put your heart into anything, whether it be into a relationship, whether it be into yourself, whether it be into cooking, something wonderful can happen. Now, I have a quick question. Do they have that wonderful moment where you first meet all of the ladies and they do, it's like a talent show.

They do a little trick for you. They do some backflips or juggling or something. Do they do that? So because I hadn't seen any of the shows, every day was a surprise. Even day one. You're like, oh. Really?

Are they really? They're coming out one by one? Can they all just turn up? It's quite a lot. Yeah, so there were some really funny moments. I'm starting to get the vibe maybe you should have watched an episode. Yeah, in between saying yes and filming it. But anyway, you were busy with other stuff. He's never actually watched The Bachelor.

I'm busy looking at you right now. Oh, yeah, we can see you across the hallway about 50 metres between some glass. Yeah, nice to see you. Moses works for Flavour just across the hallway, which kind of seems like a surreal interview that we're interviewing someone through a glass window. And we got put through by someone else as well.

Who's in another building. Yeah, this is, wow, what an age we live in. What an age, what an age. Now, Moses, I'll tell you one particular lady who's, she will be a little upset she got to miss out on even auditioning for the show, is Ben's mum, Jenny Boyce, who we have spoken to about before.

A huge fan. She loves to Olimio and Jay. Obviously, she's married. She's married, so Boyce, who we have spoken to about before. A huge fan. She loves Solomio. Obviously, she's married. She's married, so she's not currently available. But we might just ring her now quickly and break the news to her that you are the bachelor. Amazing.

Okay. She will be devout. I think she would have filed for divorce if she knew that this was an opportunity. Jenny living in Northland. Yeah, the far north. She would have travelled. She would have travelled far for Moses.

Hello? Oh, there we go. That came out of nowhere. Mum, it's your son and Jono. I'm here. He's here. I'm here. We're all here.

Oh, well, I'm here on the phone, but I'm not there where you are. I'm glad we've clarified everyone's location. Jenny, we have some devastating news. Oh, no. It's good news and it's bad news. It's great news because you're a big fan of this

particular person, but it's also bad news at the same time. Oh, so tell me the good news or the bad news. What am I going to hear? Okay, the new series of The Bachelor coming to TVNZ2. Guess who The Bachelor is? No.

It's Ben. No, no. Yeah, I've broken up with Amanda. No, it's Moses from Solomio. Oh, you're joking. Hey, I'm going to go and see him soon. I'm flying all the way to Oamaru. How about that?

Hey, this is a bit awkward because he's on the phone, Jenny. Oh, is he? Moses, my goodness. What are you up to now? I'm in Auckland. Timestamp, it's currently morning. And just to be clear, Jenny's not here. Moses is the new Bachelor and we thought,

you missed out on the chance to audition for the show, Jenny. Oh, no, I can't cope with that. Why do they miss me out? It's just not good enough. Well, yeah, Moses Series 2. Is it going to be a Series 2 with you? As long as you can serenade me, I'll come. Jenny, I'll serenade you anytime. Did

you notice your mum's tone changed when she found out Moses was on the phone? She's like, ooh, hello. I know, other than just, yeah, us. I've just been looking at a photo of you and your lovely friends and I'm just thinking how fantastic you look. You look like rested and ready to go. Are you talking about me or Moses? No, Moses. Moses? You look like a sack of rubbish, mate. Why are you going to fight over Moses in the house?

So Jenny is sitting in her Solimio shrine at the moment and talking to her hero. Oh no, and I'm just so excited. Thank you. Make my day. Alright, well, love you mum. Love you to her hero. Oh, no. And I'm just so excited. Thank you. Made my day. All right. Well, I love you, Mum.

Love you too, darling. With you in all the room. Can I love Moses as well, please? Okay. Do I have to call you Dad Moses or what? How's this work? Okay. Bye.

All right. Thanks, Jenny. All right, there we go. Gee whiz. She's got to be awkward towards the end. She's a bit heated. I think so. Gee whiz. That's got to be awkward towards the end. He's a bit heated. I think so.

I think so. I don't know if that was the twist we saw coming in The Bachelor. Maybe we can introduce an intruder in his genie voice. Moses, we are so stoked that you are The Bachelor. As soon as we heard it, we're like, wow, he is going to be amazing. We can't wait to watch it on TVNZ2. I can't wait to see it, to be honest. To be honest, I don't know if I'm going to watch it. Well, you haven't watched any so far,

so... Why start watching now? Morning. This show contains traces of Jono and Ben. The Hits with Jono and Ben for breakfast. Now,

a friend of mine a few days ago sort of came to me and sort of asked me a question when I was chatting to him and I didn't, I didn't know the answer to this and I thought,

well, we should maybe throw it out there on the radio. And he thought, I'll do the honourable thing and turn it into radio content. Yeah. But it's a really interesting point when I get to it. And I don't know why he came to me for advice. You know, like...

If I was going to seek advice from anyone, you're not... I'm like a sparrow in the backyard. I'm sitting on the fence. That's what I'm doing. You're going there and you're like, well, I'm even more confused than when I came here. Yeah, like I would probably see both sides of the argument at all times.

You know, like, oh, you know. So anyway, he's been in a relationship, a new relationship, I guess pretty much a year. They're, you know, they're in love, they're very happy. But they both were in, previously to this, quite long-term relationships. And his new partner was with someone for about eight years.

And long story short, she's still wearing a necklace that her ex-partner gave her. And he brought it up that day. He was like, oh, where'd you get that from? She was like, oh, my ex gave it to me. And she wears it every day. Well, she didn't have to tell him the truth. She could have lied. What?

But that's, you know. She could have said, oh, Michael Hill Jeweller gave this to me. Who also happens to be my ex-partner. I'm doused in could have said oh Michael Hill Jeweller gave this to me who also happens to be my ex-partner I'm doused in jewellery from Michael Hill Jeweller maybe that's it but yeah

Michael she was saying there's no real connection to I just like the necklace there's no real it's not to say I still have feelings for him

or anything like that or moved on it's a nice necklace but that jewellery is such a personal thing isn't it and it was given at a time of love well that's yeah so my mate, isn't it? And it was given at a time of love.

Yeah, so my mate was like, he said I didn't say anything at the time, but he sort of went away going, oh, I don't know how I feel about this. I feel a little bit like, I'm unsure if this, if I'm okay with this. So I thought this morning, well maybe we can help my mate out by, oh, 100 of the hits, let's get some cool stuff. Is it okay to be wearing

jewellery that an ex has given you if you're in a new relationship is it okay oh if they're doing it I'd just rather not know yeah well that's just don't tell me just don't tell me

because I'll probably will get a bit odd about it to be honest yeah because it's such a symbolic thing of like oh this was a special moment between you

and your former and now it's us why don't we go hey tell you what I'll take you to the bloody 24 hourhour gold shop opposite the casino.

They take gold any time of day. Oh, yeah. And we'll cash it in for some money. We'll buy you something else. Yeah, buy you another one. Is that a compromise? Well, that's a good option, yeah, because in this situation, she's like,

there's no, I don't have feelings for this person anymore. I just like the necklace. And I can see, you know, if it's a nice bit of jewellery, you want to wear it. Producer Juliet, do you have any thoughts on this? I think if she's wearing it all the time, every day, you'd probably just see it all the time and be like, can't you just wear something else?

I think it's okay if you're changing it up a bit. Like if you're wearing a different necklace and you wear it maybe once a week, then that's all right. But all the time is a bit, you know, do you need to? Or the other option is he just doesn't look at her neck from this day forward. Why aren't you staring below my chin? Don't worry.

Because she doesn't know it's an issue yet, does she? No, so that might be a bit weird. He sort of went away going, oh, yeah, okay, okay. And then sort of talked to me. I don't know why. Again, why did he talk to me? Because I'm really not... What did you say?

You gave him no advice. You just said, okay, you get on your way, man. I'll talk about this on the radio. Was that the solution? Pretty much, yeah. Okay, so 0800 the hits. Now we'll bring some strangers into your friend's dilemma. Now we'll get more people involved. More people with their opinions. Is it okay

if you wear your ex's jewellery and you're in a new relationship? I mean, maybe you're doing it. Maybe you've been married before and you've still got the wedding ring on from the first marriage. Or am I being petty? Maybe I'm being petty. Maybe I should be more grown up about it. Yeah, well, maybe.

But we'll find out. Let's throw it to the phones. 0800 the hits. Get us on the text as well, 4487. Is it okay to wear jewellery if you're in a new relationship that your ex has given you? Let's go to Estelle. Welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast, Maureen. Is it okay to wear your ex's jewellery?

Hello? Hello. Oh, hello, Mr. Hedge. That's alright. Is it okay to wear the ex's jewellery, Estelle? Well, I don't really have an ex, but if like, I choose my own jewellery and then I buy it and then I say to my husband, oh, thank you for the beautiful

necklace you bought me and then he goes, oh, okay, thank you. And that's it. Well, that sounds like a touching transaction. I don't like his taste in jewellery, and he wouldn't dare go there. So it's awesome. So you say there's not that real personal connection, even though he's technically, you're saying he's bought it for you in a roundabout way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's cool. And, yeah, no. No, but I know There's no personal connection. So you'd have no worries if you God forbid you broke away from your husband. If you had a new partner, you would still wear his jewellery. Yeah, totally. Alright, there we go.

Tina, you're on from Hamilton. Welcome. Hi. Yeah, your thoughts? It just depends, I suppose. Yeah, like the last corner, if you're not that attached to the jewellery other than what you like about it, then why not? But I still wear, but I don't wear it every day. I still wear a bone carving that was made for me by my ex.

Haters guts. Haters guts just love his bone. It didn't end well it didn't end well but I love the necklace and I still wear it okay good on you

so you take your emotion out of it and you're like it's just a piece of jewellery to you yeah there's no there's no

you know what Jono jewellery just seems a lot more personal for some reason it's not like a pair of pants or something or a couch or something

you're like oh yeah that was a couch that someone else bought yeah for some reason jewellery seems a lot more personal hey or something. Or a couch or something. You're like, oh, yeah, that was a couch that someone else bought. Yeah, for some reason, jewellery seems a lot more personal. Thank you, Tina. We'll head to Taranaki. Oh, sorry, we just abruptly got done with you, mate.

Anyone who disagrees with us. Hang up on them, Juliet. Sorry, Tina. That was very obnoxious and rude. Moose, welcome from Taranaki. How are you? Tātumaria. How are you, fellas?

Tātumaria to you. Now, Moose, your thoughts on this. You're quite an insightful individual, Moose. Yeah, often I am, my friend, but today I'm not sure why I called because I think I sit on the fence as well. But what I was thinking is it's more than just a necklace. Like when you come out of an eight-year relationship

and you're into a new one, there's more than just that. There's like stuff, there's property, right, that you own. Like you might have a good pair of pliers or something like that. But's like stuff, there's property, right, that you own. Like you might have a good pair of pliers or something like that. But you're right, you're totally right.

It is definitely a personal thing. I've got a pocket watch from my ex. My wife hates me wearing that thing so I'm like, sweet,

get me a new pocket watch. Oh, so you think it's a play to get a, oh yeah, okay. So what does she say about the pliers, Moose? Less emotion. Oh man,

I'm keeping my good pliers, man. Good on you, Moose. Thank you. That's a deal breaker. Wonderful plier analogy there. Yeah. Kate, you're on from Wellington, who's a jewellery store manager. You're educated in the topic, Kate.

Your thoughts, can you take jewellery from a previous relationship into a new one? Absolutely. Oh, you just want to hop off necklaces, mate. If you do want to buy new ones, come see you, right? Well, you could, but it would be bad for me if I was trying to sell more so you can keep the old ones. But no, just like everyone else has said, everyone treats Dory differently.

Some people do see it as a really personal, intimate kind of thing, and others are just like, meh, I like it, so I'll wear it. I think if he does have a problem with her wearing it, he should express that to her, not in the sense where he's saying, I don't like it, take it off, because, you know, he's only a year in, you don't want to be that controlling.

But then it gives her the choice to do what she wants and maybe even explain herself a little bit further as to why she wears it, how she feels about it. And he could always buy her a new one. True. And she probably doesn't even realise that, well, he hasn't said anything and it's affected her. So she's probably going, oh, it means nothing to me.

Why would it mean something to her? I tell you what, Kate, and if he does need to buy a new one, pop down and see you at the... No, you should... You're in the wrong job. You should be a physiotherapist. Not a physiotherapist. Psychologist.

Or a physiotherapist. I don't know, maybe like massaging knots out of people as well. But a psychologist would probably be the preferred career. He just needs to be honest with her and just kind of get in a little bit further. But, yeah, it's probably just because she likes the necklace. Hey, good on you. And it seems to be the popular opinion on the TX24487.

It's just a piece of jewellery. Move on. God bless the hits. God bless Ben. And I'm sorry about that weird physiotherapist rant. Oh, there we go. Thank you so much for your calls and texts. We apologise in advance. Sorry about that. Sorry about him. Sorry to rope there we go. Thank you so much for your calls and texts. We apologise in advance.

Sorry about that. Sorry about that. I'm sorry to rope you into this. Sorry you've been dragged into this. Jono and Pam, breakfast on the heads. The heads. The heads. Now, Jono, there's been a bit of a complaint about you.

Now, joining us on the phone right now, Jono, is Mandy. Say hi to Mandy. Hi, Mandy. Hi, Jono. Now, any radio announcer who is, you know, there's a complaint about your behaviour, and I'm like, what have I done to Mandy? Would you like to, you know,

would you like to work it out, connect the dots? Okay. Personally or professionally speaking? I think I didn't cut her off in traffic or anything No I think it was professionally and also personally You heard her personally and also professionally Is that right Mandy? Absolutely

Now you promised something for Mandy That's right Mandy Well more to my young daughter actually I can handle disappointment in life But she was only 8 at the time Maybe 9 At the time This Yeah. So this is a historic complaint. Yeah. Which is quite popular at the moment. This is from a couple

of years ago, right Mandy? It sure is, yeah. Two years ago. You talked a big game. You talked about something. You promised something not only to Mandy but also to Mandy's young daughter. And Mandy, how often have you been reminded about this from your daughter? It used to be daily. We'd dance about once a week, which is pretty good. The scars were starting to slowly heal. I mean, it happened when she was in primary school,

and she's now in her first year of high school, coming up to her 13th birthday. And she said to me, Mum, do you know what would have been really cool? If I had had what John and I had promised for my birthday. Yeah. For a birthday? I've scarred a young childhood.

Yes, a childhood. Yeah. Was it something you promised? Do you have any recollection to what? You came on the radio once a couple of years ago before we hear on the radio. Spouting off rubbish. Not even on the hits. No.

Not even on the hits. This is a row. This is where media works. Yeah, yeah. At the rock or the edge? It was the edge. The edge. Not long after you started there, perhaps.

Okay. And she heard of... Hang up on her. Not my problem anymore. No. Not my problem at New Company. New me. New company, new me.

Not my... It isn't your you, but... Any historic complaints from a previous company, MediaWorks can deal with. No. I was there. They had me. They had me.

And Sharon, who we used to work with at The Edge, she's like, hey, can you pick this up? Because this is something that you promised, Jono, and no one else can deliver on it. And it's like, well, we want to deliver to Mandy and to Mandy's daughter. What is it? It's a towel, Jono, a towel.

Oh, from the famous towel. Yes. My famous beach towel giveaway. Yes, you're like. It taunted my life. She went to a sleepover and a pool party this weekend, and she was like, we don't have enough towels. Do you know what would have been cool, Mum? I'm like,

don't bring it up, darling. I can't. Do you want to be cool, Mum, to be able to dry myself after I've been in the pool? Well, listen, and backstory here, backstory here. I came into an abundance of beach towels. You bragged about how many towels you've got, beach towels. For five Christmases in a row, I was gifted peach. I had so many beach towels I had a cupboard load,

and I said, let's do a competition where every caller wins a beach towel. And I vaguely remember you and your lovely daughter, Mandy. And I'm sure I sent the towel out. I bought towels. Have you got a towel? Mandy, did you get sent a towel? We did not get sent a towel. We did not get sent a towel. We did not.

And after about a year, we moved. And I even said to the people coming into our house, if a towel ever arrives, this is our new address. The towel. The other day, he wanted to give away lemons. I've got so many lemons. I'm like, hey, let's just bring them in first so at least we can see the lemons before we start giving them away.

Because I know the follow-through's not there. You've moved on. Well, Mandy hasn't moved on. Mandy and her daughter haven't moved on. You're stuck in a towel gate. I'm trying really hard to move on, but she keeps bringing it up to the point where we rang back on the edge.

And we've had this conversation before, Jono, and you apologised and said you'd get on to it. Oh, you promised an apology towel. How many times have I said that? Well, they needed another one to mop up the tears. Yeah, I feel like she needs two towels now. Well, I don't. I'm out of towels now.

I haven't got an abundance of towels. Why are you doing this to me, Ben? Well, I didn't. You know I just go on here and just say stuff. No, no, no. And like, we have to clean up behind you. Like, I imagine PAs for celebrities over the years. Sweep my scandals under the carpet.

Well, Producer Humphrey is B. Humpsey's great producer and he has gone to the trouble of getting 10 towels, pink towels, and got the Hits logo printed on them and we're going to send you out 10 towels, Mandy, for you and your daughter and your family and whoever else in your life wants towels, pink towels, and it got the HITS logo printed on them. And we're going to send you out 10 towels, Mandy, for you and your daughter and your family and whoever else in your life wants towels on behalf of Jono, just giving you these towels, alright? That is so

exciting. I will believe it when we see it. I feel like I've got a towel in my hand right now. Listen, I've had nothing to do with the organisation of this Mandy, so Ben's doing this. This is on Ben now. Oh no, the burden. I've wiped my hands do with the organisation of this, Mandy. So Ben's doing this. This is on Ben now. Oh, no. The burden. The burden of the towel. I've wiped my hands with a towel.

I'm handing this ongoing towel issue on to you. Oh, Jono's thrown in the towel. And I've picked it up and I'm going to give it now to producer Humphries. B. Humpsey, he's got it. Okay, so Mandy's gone from one promised towel that never got sent to two. To ten. To leapfrogging up to ten. Ten towels are coming your way, Mandy, all right?

And we'll follow up maybe in a week's time and make sure you got them, all right? Fantastic. Thank you so much. We will not rest until this towel issue is solved, Mandy. Love your work, mate. You keep well. To everyone pulling a sickie today, you're not fooling anyone. Jono and Ben, breakfast on the hits.

You got Jono and Ben just after 7.45, which means it's time for this. Five words for 5K on the hit. You're only five words away from a massive payday. It is our game of word association. We tell you five words, you tell us the first words that pop into your head. If they match with ours, you win $5,000. We're going to head to New Plymouth this morning. How's Taranaki Taylor, all right?

I'm good, thank you. How are you? Listen, we are a box of fluffies. I started the program by saying Ben was bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, and I've never seen that sweet tail so bushy. Oh, that's great. A lot of wagging of my tail today, and hopefully I'll be... Did you shampoo it last night?

It's looking good. It's looking great. Weird chat aside, how are you feeling about playing five words, Taylor? Oh, a bit nervous, but hopefully I've got this. Big fan of Five Words, are you? Yeah, it's pretty good. Big fan of Five Words. Love that Five Words show you do.

Yeah, good banter for the morning. You play along every morning, obviously. Yes, in the car on the way to work. Explain to your fellow hits listener what it's like actually being on air about to embark on it. Oh, sometimes it's very frustrating. You're like, no, why would you say that word? But you can't do anything about it.

Now, you are going to be the person maybe frustrating some people. I know. Right now. Yeah. Probably. Get ready for the judgment to be cast on you, Taylor. You'll be great. Now, which one of us do you want to choose to go into the soundproof booth?

Ben, please. Oh, yeah, good option. I like it when they say Ben because Ben, let's be honest, he's the safer out of the two of us. The more sensible. Yeah. He's the cab sav to my spew-mantee, Ben Boyce. All right, that intense music means Ben Boyce has been officially locked into the soundproof booth. If that soundproof booth could talk.

Well, it can't, thankfully, because it's assigned to a life of being soundproof. But, Taylor. Yep. Five words. If they match with Ben's, we're going to give you $5,000, which could buy you half of New Plymouth. Cool. Word number one.

Scrambled. Oh. Word number one. Scrambled. Eggs. Amusement. Parts. You're going quick. Good work. Waste. As in W-A-I-S-T.

Waste. W-A-I-S-T Waist Belt Pizza Pizza Hut What do you reckon June? Yep I reckon it's quite You reckon she's going pretty well so far? I think so

How are you feeling at this stage of the game, Taylor? Okay. All right, you're rattling through them. The fifth and final word, America. Donald Trump. All right, bring up the less stressful music. Quite unnecessary, that music. Does it put you off, Taylor? No, it doesn't. All right, we'll bring Ben Boyce out of the less stressful music. Quite unnecessary, that music. Does it put you off, Taylor?

No, it doesn't. All right, we'll bring Ben Boyce out of the soundproof booth. She smoked through them today, Taylor. Quick game's a good game with Taylor. Yeah. Ben. I reckon you're going to get this. Don't put pressure on me.

What do you reckon, Juliet? I reckon you have... I sort of matched with Taylor's words, so I'm hoping you sort of... Fingers crossed. I'll try my best. Fingers crossed. And do you know what Taylor said?

If you don't do this, she's going to threaten to listen to Gary McCormick. Oh, no. For her remaining days. Okay. All right. Five words, $5,000. I felt like I wasn't in there for that long

I felt like Taylor really She was good She was good And a lot of the times Your first instinct's the best one to go with Okay, so kind of go with that Go with my gut feeling My first instinct

Okay, here we go Trust your gut Which is an unusual thing to trust Yeah Scrambled Eggs Amusement Park Oh, we got two Eggs. Amusement.

Park. Oh, we got two. Okay, we got two. Taylor, good start. Good start. I'm not looking at Jono because he always gives me the disappointed face if I get it wrong. Waste. W-A-I-S-T. Oh, waste.

Okay. Line. Oh, Taylor. It's okay. What did you say, Taylor? Belt. Belt. You idiot.

Oh, waist. Sorry. I just like reveling in this. He's not an idiot. That's a pretty smart word, waistline. Waistline. As was waistbelts. Yeah, no, that makes sense too. What were the other words?

Pizza. Hut. Yep. America. Trump. Yep. Oh. He was one off.

So close. Taylor. Let's just settle in this for a few seconds. Taylor. I thought it was a really good round too. It was a good round. You played beautifully. It was just Ben Boyce who was the weak link.

What would you have picked for waste? I would have gone Bells. Oh, shut your face. What would you have picked for waste? I would have gone bells. Shut your face. Personally, but hey, who am I to say? You didn't choose me. That's fine. All right, well, tomorrow I think you can. Listen, Taylor, them's the breaks, unfortunately.

Four out of five today. Well played. Really, really good game. Thank you for listening, and let's hope you get through again, okay? Cool. Thank you so much. Want more Jono and Ben? You can catch up with the boys anytime.

Just search Jono and Ben on Facebook. We were all just saying during Harry Styles, it feels like this week's been dragging. It's been dragging. Glad it's Thursday. It's been really, I think, a tough week for New Zealand, obviously going back into lockdown for some parts, the uncertainty, and it's just felt like a long, long week.

Yeah, and I think the apprehension about what happens next, like you said, the uncertainty probably weighs on people, doesn't it? Like all those people who comically escaped Auckland at 7.02pm on Sunday night to flee anywhere apart from Auckland probably all had to panic and back up the car and rush back. Last time, I'm going to get back, guys. Kids, you've got school tomorrow. Oh, what?

I'm going to be back at work. Get in the car. I know. Anyway, so I don't know. This will be something dear to get back, guys. Kids, you've got school tomorrow. Oh, what? I'm going to be in bed at work. Get in the car. I know. Anyway, so I don't know. This will be something dear to your heart, Ben, but I don't know if this actually happens to you. You do have a highly publicised disgruntlement, I guess you could use the word, towards pillows,

display pillows on your bed at home. Oh, yes. Yeah, your wife has how many? What, sort of 70-odd? Yeah, there's a lot. More than a Briscoe sale. Yeah, your wife has how many? What, sort of 70-odd? Yeah, there's a lot. More than a Briscoe sale. Yeah, there's probably, in all honesty, there's probably about 13 pillows on the bed.

They just keep arriving, and every night you have to take them off. I just put them in the corner of the room. I'm like, why can't we just leave them there? Like, they're fine. Juliet, you're scoffing. You say you can't leave display pillows in the corner? No, I understand your pain.

Because it's just like, we can't do the same dance every time I go to bed. I go to bed first. I'm like, here we go. Who makes the bed? Do you have to come home and make it? Oh, no, that's one of the good things about, you know. It's made.

Yeah. The pillows are born for this. I'm out. You know, like, I'm not going to make it around a man in the morning. We've never really figured out who they're on display for as well. No.

Yeah, so maybe that's what happens when I go to work. But this is pillow-related content too, which I don't know if this happens to other people, other couples, but I was going to bed last night as I do every night, and it's funny going to sleep, isn't it?

Like you pretend to go to sleep initially, then you eventually end up going to sleep. It's like you trick your body, eh? You do. I'll shut my eyes and pretend I'm asleep and eventually it happens. And you don't know when you're end up going to sleep. It's like you trick your body, eh? You do. I'll shut my eyes and pretend I'm asleep and eventually it happens. And you don't know when you're going to go to sleep too. It's just something you're like, you know, you could be like, I'm not

going to go to sleep here and then bang, I went to sleep. It's such an unusual act when you think about it. I know. But I wake up in the middle of the night, most nights, and it's like Fletcher's construction have come in and built this pillow wall between Jen and me. Do you have this pillow wall that just sort of turns up

in the middle of the night made from other pillows? No, she's sort of like trying to tell you something. She's saying she hasn't made it. Oh, right. I haven't made it. I don't know where they come from. Oh, so this has just happened naturally. It happens.

Oh, yeah, I don't know what happens, but then the pillows always end up everywhere apart from under my head. So there's pillows on the floor, there's pillows in the bathroom

and so I just grab a pillow at random from this miraculous pillow wall that's built and then I get it and then Jen's like, that's my pillow and I'm like,

they're all the same pillows. No, she's like, no, it's contoured to my head, this pillow. I'm like, but we bought all these

pillows at the same time. How do you know what's your pillow? That frustrates me as well because there is like, no, it's contoured to my head, this pillow. I'm like, but we bought all these pillows at the same time. How do you know what's your pillow? That frustrates me as well because we have four pillows on the bed and then I'm going to sleep on the other. It's my pillow. Why don't we just get four that we can all use? Why do we have to have a favourite one that you have to have? Because I don't know.

Once the pillowcase is on, I don't know which one's what. Exactly. I'm technically allowed to put my head on. I'm like, is this okay? If it's soft and looks like a pillow, I'm going to put a head on it. You know that's my pillow, do I? Because I don't know any difference between. But Amanda, my wife, she does.

Probably like Jen, she knows the difference. Yeah. Julie, have you got specified pillows? Oh, absolutely. And you can always tell. It's just not quite right if you are sleeping on a pillow that's not one that you're used to. And it really drives you insane. I've got one, I sleep in a

certain way that only I have to have a certain pillow to allow me to sleep in that way. And any other pillow just doesn't work. Yeah, they eventually turn quite yellow and crusty, don't they? You never want to look a pillow dead in the eye without the pillowcase on. Why has this thing gone so yellow?

What head juices am I excreting? I was telling you about that a while ago that a mate of mine for many years when he'd go to a hotel he would take his pillow along

and then he'd swap the pillow for the hotel pillow, take it away, thinking it was a better class of pillow. It was a better pillow. It was, you know,

more Egyptian cotton or more feathers or whatever. But you were saying, which is a good point, they've been slept on by so many other people. Oh, well, listen, who wants a pillow that's been used by 10,000 heads?

Yeah, when you think about it, you're like... Oh, I've got me a better pillow. Have you? You left your one here at the hotel. Or an unhygienic one. Over to you. Oh, there you go. You just thought pillow talk happened at night between couples, but it also happens at 7.40am on our show. Yeah, yeah, nah. Yeah, nah.

Yeah, nah. The whole movie. Yeah, nah. She'll be right. And at the end of the day. Jono and Ben. Breakfast on the hits. Of course, Auckland's just out of lockdown.

The rest of the country have changed alert levels as well. And what I've found about the last three days back into lockdown, a lot of different conversations you've had that you wouldn't normally have. I mean, you said this morning, everyone's an expert on something, everyone's an epidemiologist. Oh, I've solved the pandemic from the comfort of my lounge with my wife, Jen, multiple times over.

They should just give us a call. We've got it sorted. Yeah, but being in lockdown for three days with the family, you know, it's been awesome spending time with the kids and my wife. But you have conversations that I wouldn't normally, like it messes with your routine. Like we normally, we leave here around about lunchtime and normally-

You're a routine guy. Go home and normally that's, no one else is in the house. Now I've got people in the house and Amanda and I are having different conversations. Like she gets home from work normally and it's like, what are we having for dinner? That sort of thing. We have that conversation. That's fine. That's fine. That's a 4 to 5 p.m. conversation. That's fine. But now it's like, what are we having for dinner? That sort of thing. We have that conversation. That's fine. That's fine. That's a 4 to 5 p.m. conversation. But now it's like, what are we having for lunch? And I'm like, oh, this is a conversation we've never had during the weekdays.

And now we're suddenly having. I usually come home and just, oh, I sort myself out. Potter around. Yeah. And so that's a whole other conversation. And then I think your parents know you're in lockdown as well. They suddenly start calling and they know you. You know, my dad being my dad, I love him.

But he starts handing me on to other people you know talk to him you're like he's a notorious give you a call Kevin Boyce Ben's father

and Ben will start talking to someone I've witnessed it and he's like oh Gary here from the Lions Club he wants to have a chat with you

and you're like who's Gary I don't have time Gary's like hello who's Gary speaking you're like hi Gary

from the Lions Club and you're stuck in a 10-minute conversation. And then you notoriously screen calls from your mother, Jenny. Yeah, but I talk to her on radio. On radio, we talk to her. She's left many voice messages, sad, heartbreaking ones of like, it's your mother here, do you remember me? But they know you're trapped.

So these are conversations that you start to have in the lockdown the other one I've been having with Amanda my wife the last few days, you always talk about who's busier and who's more tired because you're around the house and things need to be done and you're like oh but I'm busy, I'm doing stuff on my computer I've got a Zoom call with Todd oh but I've been doing this in my house

don't finish it, you know? I love the competition about who's more tired because no one can prove it I'm more tired I'm going to have 4 o'clock This morning Yeah It's always my reason

I can't take the bins out I've got to have 4 o'clock This morning It's a bit hard I mean Put it into perspective She's a teacher Yeah I know

You just talk on the radio How are you busy Outside of this No I don't What are you doing I've got nothing But I like to pretend I am. You're just tapping on the computer.

Yeah, I am. I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, I'm busy here. Oh, geez. Research of stuff. Oh, yeah. Looking at Dwayne Johnson's Instagram here. We're all doing stuff, aren't we?

And then the house party sort of popped back up. Did you get back into house party again, friends? Not yet. Got back into house party just through that three-day lockdown. Really? And then suddenly you started having conversations again. Like, we wouldn't talk midweek normally, you know, but suddenly we're like, we're having a conversation.

I was 30 minutes into it and I was like, oh, hey, I got to go. I'm busy. You know, I'm a busy guy. I'm more busy than my wife. I've got Instagrams to look at. Yeah, and then my mate called me out. He's like, where do you got to go?

You got nowhere else to go. And I didn't. I had nothing. But you just wanted to wrap up the conversation. Remember the house party too got branded with the, tarnished with the Chinese government brush, didn't it? And then we all deleted it. Everyone thought that was kidding.

We got it for two days. We're like, this is the greatest thing ever. The communists are watching. Oh, delete, delete, delete. They'll get all your information. All your inane conversations. They'll know what you're having for lunch before you have that conversation.

All your slurry drunk conversations with your friends during lockdown. Oh, there you go, Ben. So it sounds like you had a fun time with your family. Oh, no, no. Hey, it was great times. We had some great times. You can't bookend it with that. You just slagged them off for three and a half minutes.

I started it with saying we had some great special family moments. We also had some conversations that, hey, we're nice to leave behind. So that was, you did 10 nice seconds at the top. You had a three and a half minute just rampage on them, and then another nice, oh, but I do love them at the end. Love you guys. Add these two men together, and somehow you get three quarters worth of a normal man.

The Hits, with Jono and Ben for breakfast. Of course, a big press conference yesterday at 4.30, Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister announced Auckland going to Alert Level 2 as of midnight last night, and the rest of the country to Alert Level 1. And, you night, the rest of the country to alert level one. And, you know, it felt like it took a while to get to the, you know, get to the point of the, you know,

press conference from Indy, my daughter was watching. Just say it. Just say, is school on tomorrow? What's happening? And then go into the explanation. If this was our post radio show meeting, our bosses, Craig and Todd, would be like, you could have cut that down

to about 90 seconds, guys. Yeah. They'd drag it out. We could have said, hey, look, Auckland's going to a little level two, the rest of the country's going to a little level one. Here's the reasons why.

And then everyone would go. Okay, great. I can switch off now. Because then the journalists, and hey, they're just doing their job asking questions, but they leave question time going for too long. Oh, yeah.

Like it sort of ends up 45 minutes later, what's your favourite colour? Yeah. You know, they're struggling to find new questions to ask. But, hey, the positive is the country's pretty much back to normal. Yeah, and it seems like, oh, fingers crossed, that the potential outbreak has been contained. So that's good.

That's good for New Zealand if that's the case. Well, yeah, yesterday while New Zealand was celebrating, I was commiserating because I was pranked. Beloved broadcaster Jono Pryor pranked. Who's beloved broadcaster? You are! I just said I was. My mum calls me a beloved broadcaster.

It's my email signature too. Beloved broadcaster Jono Pryor. In the office I was pranked. Viciously pranked by yourself and producer Juliet. So there's a thing going around social media, particularly on TikTok. It's like a centre of gravity challenge, right? And it seems like females can be better at it than males generally, right? Yes, yeah.

That's the theory and the test and what people are trialling out. Basically, you're on all fours and you've got to put your arms behind your back and females can hold that position in a quick movement, but males seem to just face plant. They collapse. They collapse on their face. And I just tried it. Juliet, you'd showed it to me and I tried it without you around, John.

I was like, oh, I'm face planting. I'm doing exactly what happened. And so we're like, why don't we film it for social? Give you to do it for the first time. So Juliet demonstrated it and then so I innocently gave it a go. Yeah. And as my face was plummeting towards the office floor,

Ben Boyce shoves, slides a champagne comedy cream pie under me. It was like a paper plate with cream. Cream. I was very nervous about that because it's a one-shot deal. I mean, your face could have fallen anywhere. Or your face could not have fallen at all. But it fell directly into the cream. It was perfect. And even worse, you were filming it for the internet.

Filming it for some sick, perverted joy. But the thing is, what you don't factor in about cream is it seeps into your pores. And my face smelled like an unkept Mr. Whippy van for the rest of the day. It stunk. Because we had that game, was it Pie Face? There's a game that your kids had,

and we played it over summer, and just your face just reeked. It does. It smells like sort of... I didn't realise that was a thing. Yeah, oh, no, it does. And throughout history, you know, it's been highly publicised that whipped cream

is the perfect accompaniment to a romantic liaison. No, no. Why don't you think about the long-lasting odour effects of that interaction, do you? In the morning, you're like, ugh.

Anyway, I thought we'd put our immature pranky days behind us, but turns out we haven't. Oh, hey. Hey, I'd moved on

to a higher ground. Turns out some members of the team have decided to still go back to the old days. Well, it's up to you. You can be the judge

for yourself if you want to go to the hits breakfast on Instagram. I thought this was a transformation period of the brand, Ben, turning into, you know, more adult, mature

broadcasters, but hey, who am I to say? Who am I to say? If you still want to put a cream pie on my face? That's true, actually. That's over to you. I really haven't stepped it up much more. I'm sorry. I apologise. Make sure you join the social media feed today where Ben down trails me in the cafe. Broadcasting live

and mostly awake. Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast on the hits. The A to Z of New Zealand. It's something we do every day on the hits. We call a different town or city in New Zealand. We call one a day. We like to learn about each place as we call and we're doing it alphabetically. It's going to take

us over two years to call every town and city. Yeah, today we're heading to rural Canterbury where they breed babies to become Canterbury Crusaders. Fun fact, there's actually a baby farm out there specifically designed to breed the next Richie McCaw or Dan Carter using artificial insemination practices, Ben. They're so impressive, these babies, they come out. I don't know why I'm on this rant. They're so impressive, these babies.

They come out of their mother and they spin the placenta out to the right to the midwife. All right. That's how good, that's how bred for rugby they are. We're going to head to rural Canterbury now. North Lowburn to the school, the primary. Morena, North Lowburn School, Diane speaking. Morena, Diane. How's Jono and Ben from the Hits radio station?

Oh, good morning. How are you? and Ben from the Hits radio station? Oh, good morning. How are you? Caught you off guard in your duties? I'm working hard, working hard. How's the school today? Great. We've got a beautiful sunny day here at our little school. How many students at North Lowburn School? We've got 116 and we have lots of programs here, pet days, garden to table. We have a bike track here.

I imagine pet day becomes a bit of a niggle. You've got all sorts of sheep and... Animals and maybe cats with dogs and all sorts. Is it creating a bit of a situation for yourselves, having a pet day? No, it's wonderful. But we only do it once every two years because that's about all the teachers can stand.

We've only lost a couple of pets over the years. Yeah, when the pigs get amongst the dogs it's a bit exciting. And the cat gets amongst the pigeons and all sorts could happen. So whereabouts is North Loburn? It is nestled in the hills up in front of

Mount Thomas, Mount Karatu and Mount Grey. My dear cousin Louise Patterson lives on the foothills of Mount Thomas. Oh, okay. So, Okoku. Yes. Yes. Yeah, they live there.

But I'm saying this like you should know her. You're like, wait a minute. No, I don't because there is actually two schools in the series. Oh, I was like, wait for it. No, I don't, because there is actually two schools in the series. Oh, I was like, wait for it. Wait for it. Anyway, so there's no, I was trying to come up with a personal connection there. We've got nothing. We've got nothing, Diane.

Nothing, no. But they live on a giant island. No, I hate to admit it, but I come from the North Island. But you don't say that too loud around here. Now, Diane, what we've got you on is a representative of Lowburn, North Lowburn. Yes. And we require you to take part in a commercial of some sort and tell us about the area. Right.

And you've just got to fill in the blanks there. Oh, right. Welcome to the beautiful, tranquil North Lowburn. When you come to visit, you simply must check out the... Beautiful mountains. Oh, she's good. I heard Mount Thomas is there. Do you know who lives at the foothills of Mount Thomas?

Oh, here we go. And as the locals always say... Come and visit North Loburn School. Are the locals always saying come and visit the school? Yes, because they like to come swimming. We have a swimming pool here and the temperature is currently 28 degrees. Oh, that is tropical. Now, have you got the shared community jobby

with the key on the giant block of wood? We have indeedy. Yeah, no, Ben Boyce grew up on a school and used to have access to the pool. I did, yeah, on the block of wood. I never knew why it was on wood for so many years because it floats. Makes a lot of sense, the giant block of wood.

All right, we're halfway through the ad. If you haven't visited this beautiful location, why it was on wood for so many years because it floats. Makes a lot of sense. The giant block of wood. Alright, we're halfway through the ad. If you haven't visited this beautiful location, it will have you saying... Come and visit us very soon. And once you've said that, this special place of paradise

will have you uttering more words like... Diane. I can't think of one. You're going so well. I'm out of words. All the words are gone. I've run out.

But be sure to pop in so the locals can tell you the town slogan. No, we don't really have a town slogan because we're not really a town. We have a vision statement for the school. Okay. You give us the school's vision. I'll lead you back in with that.

We can get the vision statement for the school. Here we go. But be sure to pop in so the locals can tell you the town slogan. That our school likes to nurture well-rounded citizens of the future with a lifelong passion for learning. Well-rounded citizens of the future with a lifelong passion for learning. Oh, that's good. Well-rounded citizens of the future. There you go.

Oh, well, lovely talking to you. And you say hi to Jono's relation, friend. It's my cousin. Your cousin, yeah. Doug and Louise Patterson. I will ask the Okoku people if they know me. Yeah, get the word out there. You'll meet them one day in your travels and wish them well.

I will. Thanks for ringing. All right, see ya. Okay. Real Kiwi blokes with soy lattes. Mmm. Shona and Ben, breakfast on the hits. After 25 years, the iconic Shortland Street character,

Carla, has returned to Shortland Street. Always returning to night. Now, Carla was the show's first ever murderer. A very evil character. Probably one of the most talked about characters. You're an evil little cow returning tonight. Now, Carla was the show's first ever murderer. A very evil character. Probably one of the most talked about characters. You're an evil little cow, aren't you, Carla?

I beg your pardon? I'm saying that Carla tried to kill Tiffany in theatre. Do you really think it's fair to take your frustrations out on me just because you're in love with Tiffany? Oh, I'm not. Now, we thought in 1995

that, you know, that was it. Carla was not going to come back to Shortland Street, but she's back. You can tell that's so old because it sounded like it came off VHS. Yeah, yeah. Well, she's back tonight on Shortland Street. Carla returns.

It's been a long time since I walked through this hospital. Things have changed. I've changed. Or have I? Hello. I'm Carla. How have I? Hello. I'm Carla. How can I help you? She joins us on the phone right now.

Her name is Elizabeth Esther. Back is Carla. How's it going? I'm really well. How are you? Good. Thank you so much for talking to us. My pleasure.

Do you remember the last time we saw each other? Oh, no. No. This is the best start to an interview ever, can I just say. Yeah, how could I forget that wonderful day where you remind me and then I'll just go along with you. No, no, of course I remember

because we were at some location on the North Shore. Yes, the North Shore, love the North Shore. It's great, it's over the bridge. Yes, over the bridge and we were doing some skit about children in bedrooms singing kind of Guns N' Roses songs. And Teresa Healy was there. And it was just a really just odd day in some random location on the North Shore.

No, was it Mums N' Roses? That's it. Oh, Mums N' Roses. Mums N' Roses. We did a Guns N' Roses tribute band, Mums N' Roses, with all mums. That's right. Yeah, Mums and Roses. Mums and Roses. We did a Guns and Roses tribute band, Mums and Roses, with all mums. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I thought it was quite funny.

Yeah, no, Mums and Roses never, did you guys go on a world tour? Oh, you know, there's still a chance. There's still a chance. Well, Mums and Roses, maybe not a thing, but who would have thought that Carla was going to be a thing again, right? I know, I have to say, I am quite surprised. I was 25 first time around, and now I'm 50. I'm putting back on my old Carla.

So she was renowned as Shortland Street's first murderer, a great claim to fame. So you've done 25 years in prison, and you've just been released. Is that the back story? It's all a bit vague and fuzzy. So she was sent off to a place for know, a place for distressed gentlefolk or a lunatic asylum, call it what you will, while there, studied to be a psychotherapist and presumably has been practising at some reasonably high level

to have found herself a job back at Shortland Street. So obviously you walk back into Shortland Street. You know, Chris Warner, he's going to remember you. He's going to get a hell of a fright. Yeah. Fair to say. But you know, the majority of staff, they don't know you check in history. So you must be able to blend in relatively well if you tell Warner to hush his sweet lips.

Oh my God, it's like you read the script. It's exactly what I say to him. Warner, and I put my finger to his lips, hush your sweet lips. That's it. That's the thing. Well, that was the thing. In 1995, I was reading, it was one of the highest-rating episodes ever of Shortland Street.

A quarter of New Zealanders watched when Tiffany finally confronted Carla back in the day. And then, of course, you were a villain, as you say. What was it like out there on the street after that? The normal street, not Shortland Street, you know, out there in the public. Do people give you grief? Because sometimes people have a hard time separating the fact from fiction.

I think they call those people idiots. Well, that's true. People get so sucked into the show, though. That's what I'll do. There definitely was some of that. And I have very conveniently blocked a lot of it out. And two, many, you know, 95, there's no social media, you wouldn't have been harassed online. Online bullying wasn't

a thing. It was real-time, face-to-face bullying in 1995. I know! Old-fashioned bullying. Good old-fashioned bullying. Oh, jeez. It's going to be so interesting. That will be weird. Also, the next thing is, is that I am still living a very dinosaur life. And

sometime around the election last year, I got so sick of seeing what people said on Facebook, because half of them were idiots. I cancelled my Facebook. I don't go on my Instagram. And we also, like you're speaking of things you do now, you also write for The Herald as well, and you write as a journalist as well, right? Yeah. I mean, that's what I

segued into. I segued into a bit of radio and a bit of newspaper and magazine writing. So I swapped one relatively unstable career for another. But it's all the different bits that fit in. Like I have a modular profession. Go from commercial radio to a print newspaper, back to network television, three industries that'll be around forever. I'm a ping pong, absolutely.

But people are always saying, oh, this is the end of this, and this is the end of that. But, you know, the newspaper's still being printed and you're still on the air. I think that's a lot of that negativity people love to... People love to be negative. What's that about? I know, it's one of New Zealand's favourite hobbies, isn't it?

Radio was meant to finish about 12 years ago, but we're still talking rubbish. I don't know if anyone's listening to it. No, no, but we enjoy it. Now, also, I understand your mother was a broadcasting pioneer. Yes. She was uncanny how I have followed in her footsteps. So she started in radio.

She started in radio and acting, and then she went to making television programs, and then she started writing books. And, you know, intentionally or accidentally, I have completely followed in her footsteps. And a couple of years ago, I made the first documentary series ever made in New Zealand that she made called Islands of the Gulf. I remade it and it was such a great pleasure.

It's probably the highlight of my whole professional career. Because she was New Zealand's first female television producer, your mother. Yes, she was the first person to ever make a documentary series, male or female. Wow, that's awesome. How cool is that? That's very cool.

It must have been quite emotional redoing that. Oh, gosh, it was completely emotional. And because my mother had died, she'd been dead for 20 years, and my dad died maybe two weeks before it went to air. And I tried to show him a little bit on my laptop, but, you know, trying to show a 90-year-old television on your laptop. What are you saying? I can't hear.

I just dare hope that Ben's Wonderful Children, when he passes, recreates all of his famous pranks in radio chats as well. Oh, my God, look what they do. Oh, God. And it's so cool. I hope I spy for better things for my kids than falling in my footsteps. Hey, so nice to talk to you, Elizabeth, and so great to have Carla back on the screens. Thank you.

Lovely to talk to you. Want more Jono and Ben? You can catch up with the boys anytime. Just search Jono and Ben on Instagram. We're scrolling through your feed. All righty, there's nothing this guy won't talk about apart from his ongoing money laundering business. We'll discuss that at a later date, but here is scrolling through your feed. Alrighty, there's nothing this guy won't talk about apart from his ongoing money laundering business. We'll discuss that at a later date, but here is scrolling through your feed.

Now, if you're a fan of emojis, there's some new emojis coming out for your mobile phone. They include the flaming heart, a mended heart, gender neutral people, as well as new skin tone variants for kissing couples. And I thought this was interesting, the syringe one, which originally is a syringe emoji.

Also works well for the Sky Tower. Yeah, it used to have blood in the syringe, you know, like a blood test. But now it's going to have the blood removed so you can use it as a vaccine syringe emoji. So if you're like, I just got vaccinated for COVID, you can send that one. Otherwise, the blood was kind of freaking people out.

And the rock climbing one is now going to have a helmet on for safety first. Even with the emojis, they need to be safety first. So just in case the receiver of the message gets confused, you want to go rock climbing without a helmet, not for me. A lot of people turn down those invites. Now, who is the commander- commander in chief of the emojis? Who makes this call? Yeah well these ones are to do with Apple's new

emojis but I imagine they'll be rolled out. Wozniacki or something. Yeah maybe you're right. I love that guy. He looks like a cartoon character. Jono not to worry you can still use the lightbulb or the egg for your face so those options are still available. This is a long runway. This is a long runway to a bald burn,

but I appreciate the effort. Now, I noticed, Ben, when you text me, you've got a cute little face, a cute little cartoon face by yours. Oh, you don't know how to do that. No, we're in a group situation. You guys were talking some heavy business, and I replied like two days later,

and I was like, hey, guys, because everyone had cute cartoon face emoji. I was like, how'd you guys get your cute face emoji? Make your little character. No one replied to me. I'll make one for you. Yes, I love making little emojis. I think so.

I think so. Yeah, the kids made one up for me. They love doing it too. It's quite bespoke. Like, it kind of looks like you. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, you've got limited options throughout the thing. You can make it look similar.

Or do you drag the hair on and the skin? Yeah, you kind of make up your little emoji. But then the kids sometimes will make their ones up for themselves but then save it as mine so it's quite weird when you see the three and you're like ben's are like a nine-year-old girl julie it's like i'll make you one she's just gonna put a light bulb on mine you won't know how to change it that's the beauty of it and uh we've been following this story a lady in louisiana she went viral after she put a heavyduty adhesive in her hair. So she basically put Gorilla Glue in her hair to keep it down.

She couldn't get it out. For a month, she could not move her hair. Well, now she has been able to get it out. Who would have thought? Who would have thought putting super glue in your hair would result in you not being able to move it? So she got flown to Beverly Hills to see a plastic surgeon who for free removed it free of charge which I thought was pretty awesome

and basically he just used a solvent that broke it down and it didn't cause any injuries to the scalp and successfully she got it out. They also put conditioner in her hair for like an hour and sent her off to the hotel and she's all good. Oh that's lovely. Didn't have to shave her hair off, didn't have to use the light bulb emoji or anything like that now.

She's good to go. What's that show with those two doctors? Botched. They do nice stuff. I love Botched. What is Botched? It's like these two plastic surgeons in Hollywood and they fix people up. They're like, you know,

some lady who's come in with a huge chest or something and they'll reduce it or like any botched surgeries that have happened from like backyard plastic surgery operations. So this would have been a great botched episode. I would have watched it. I would have watched it, yeah. Wouldn't you just be able to go to Bunnings and get like a solvent?

Or the equivalent of Bunnings? He's like, I just popped down to the hardware store. You didn't need to fly able to go to Bunnings and get like a solvent? Or the equivalent of Bunnings? He's like, I just popped down to the hardware store. You didn't need to fly out to Beverly Hills. Yeah, well, he tested it first on a mannequin with human hair just to see what they actually went through the process to make sure it was safe and it broke it down. And yeah, I guess you want to see a professional. I mean, those people in the red aprons at Bunnings are pretty good.

So maybe they seem to know where everything is at Bunnings. Oh, do they? What, you want to go to aisle 23 about halfway down? How do you know all this stuff? It's such a big store. It is a huge store. Well, there you go. That's a great lesson for everyone to not super glue your hair.

If you're thinking about it, this is a lovely reminder. And that is scrolling through your feed this morning. They need to talk words and stuff into a microphone. It's New Zealand's breakfast. Jono and Ben on the hits. Now, Jaffers, we were just talking about them, the confectionery. RJ's now make them. They started making them after the Cadbury factory

sadly closed down in Dunedin and no longer were making Jaffers in New Zealand. So they got the rights and now they're making them. So keeping the brand alive, which is great. There we go. Good on you for following up. And that was thanks to More FM. That was on the More FM website. And that was all from thanks to More FM.

Was that on the More FM website? More FM website a couple of years ago, but yeah. Oh, because someone passed on our regards to Gary McCormick. Yes, so thanks very much to More FM for that. Appreciate that. Spy, the what's up? Spy.co.nz I know we're talking about it in 2018. We're just talking about it now, but anyway. I would like to be two years late with news.

I tell you what we don't like to be late on is celebrity news and now we proudly present to you a millennial trying to make this show sound cool and in touch. Here's Juju with the latest gossip.

Now it feels like a lot of American celebrities kind of flippantly say, oh yeah, I'd run for president if people wanted me to, all that sort of thing.

I mean, Kanye, he left his run pretty late, didn't he? He actually did it though. To his credit, he followed through on that. He gave it a crack, Kanye, he left his run pretty late, didn't he? But he actually did it, though. To his credit, he followed through on that. He gave it a crack, didn't he? Yeah, a bit too late. He didn't even fill out forms that he needed to register,

but he gave it a crack. Yeah, but the latest celebrity to say this is Dwayne The Rock Johnson, and he said he would seriously go for it if people wanted him to, and he said, truly, I mean that. I'm not being flippant in my answer, which is kind of like, you know, I feel like they say it, celebrities say it like on the fly, they don't really think about what they're saying, but he seems like he's very serious about it.

Well during last year I remember during the Black Lives Matter protests when America was really falling to pieces, he gave quite a presidential style speech from his house. That's right. And everyone's like, you should be president. Oh wow. Ronald Reagan was a former... He was saying stuff that Donald Trump should have be president. Oh, wow. Ronald Reagan was a former... He was saying stuff that Donald Trump

should have been saying. Exactly. Wow. Ronald Reagan was a former actor and became president, so it's, you know... Arnie was, you know, an actor and then governor,

so it's like, stranger things have happened, right? And Trump was on The Apprentice and then he ended up as president, so there you go. And Dwayne The Rock Johnson

was also on Jimmy Fallon, which is, and this is quite funny. His mum seemed to gatecrash the interview. I saw this. Yeah, so Jimmy Fallon was talking about his mum, and they had a lovely little moment. They had a moment in Hawaii.

Dwayne Johnson had gone home to visit his mum, and they had a lovely moment sitting by, I think, his grandparents' grave, and they were playing a song on a ukulele. His mum was quite good. Jimmy Fallon's like, oh, your mum played a great ukulele. He's like, oh, I'm at mum's house now. I'll see if I can get mum to bring a ukulele along His mum was quite good. Jimmy Fallon's like, oh, your mum played a great ukulele. He's like, oh, I'm at mum's house now. I'll see if I can get mum to bring a ukulele along.

And she popped into shot. I have a ukulele. I know. Let's sing him a song real quick. I love you. I love you. Take it easy. Keep fighting more.

So they play this whole song and then Dwayne's like, thanks mum. That's great. And then she's like, thanks, Mum. That's great. And then she's like, no, we're doing one more. Are you joking me? Can we do one more?

No, we don't have one more. What do you mean we don't have one more? We love you, Jenny. Oh, yes, we do. Okay, I'll go with it. We love you, Jenny. That was actually a lovely, lovely moment. The whole thing played out

over a couple of minutes, but it was pretty awesome. You can tell, you know, no matter how big you get, you can tell Dwayne the Rockshot is still dying inside of embarrassment about his mum. No, mum, that's enough. That's enough. We'll do one more.

It's like, yeah, yeah, it's so good. The strongest man in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very cute, though. And that is Spy for More. You can head to the HITS website, thehits.co.nz. They're proud of New Zealand Go New Zealand

If only New Zealand was proud of them Jono and Ben New Zealand's breakfast on the Hits Hey Filling Oh yes love this part of the programme

not because we get to walk out and get a coffee but because we get to end on a positive note You'll have the end of this when we get

to walk out Yeah that's my favourite part of the show but we do like to end on a positive you just phone us up 0800 the Hits you tell us why it's going to be a good day because at the end of this when we get to the end. Yeah, that's my favourite part of the show. But we do like to end on a positive. You just phone us up 0800 the hits.

You tell us why it's going to be a good day because any day above ground is a good one. Unless you're in a malfunctioning aeroplane. Oh yeah, yeah.

But apart from that it's, you know, this is a lot to be happy about. But I imagine there's some people that work underground and shopping malls and car parks.

And still have a good day. And still have a good day. Doesn't mean you can't have a good day as well. Anyway, we're probably... People on the underground train station. Yeah,. And still have a good day. And still have a good day. Doesn't mean you can't have a good day as well. Anyway, we're probably... People on the underground train station. Yeah, they can still

have a good day. Yeah. Whittaker's bringing back its limited edition hundreds and thousands chocolate block. Everyone's pretty happy about that.

That's why it could be a good day for some people. Let's go to Chris. Welcome from Tiamatou. What's going to be a good day for you, mate? Oh, how you doing there? Last three months

we've been doing a bathroom renovation and the tiles are going up today with all the fancy gear, the strip lighting and all the hot and cold running women, so it's going to be great. Oh, well, I tell you what, Chris, you sound like you're going to be

showering in that fresh bathroom tomorrow. It'll make a change. We've been showering in a little tent in the brick sheet out the backyard for the last three months. Three months, jeez. I tell you what, living through renos, eh? We did that once. We did that once.

I was showering in there with a garden hose, hosing off the kids. If your marriage will survive a reno, it'll survive anything. There you go. And have you made it through, Chris? Yeah, yeah. I think she's still at home. I think she's at home.

It doesn't sound so bad. We haven't spoken to each other in six months. We want to send you out some hell pizza, right? Have a great day, all right? Enjoy that shower. Spot on, mate. Thank you very much. Good Thank you. We haven't spoken to each other in six months. We want to send you out some hell pizza, right? Have a great day, all right? Enjoy that shower. Spot on, mate. Thank you very much. Good on you.

We'll head to Wellington. Anisiata, welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast. Why is it going to be a good day for you? Hello. Hi. Oh, you're there. Oh, this was it. Yeah, I'm here.

That was suspense. Why is it going to be a good one for you? Day off course. Day off course. Oh, nice. What. Why is it going to be a good one for you? Day off course. Day off course. Oh, nice. What are you learning to do? Early childhood education. Oh, great.

Learning to do nothing today because you've got a day off. What's your plan for your day off? Just to relax. I've got eight kids, so. Eight kids? Children? You're already educating early children. Yeah.

You've got eight of them. You've got what a classroom's worth already. Yeah, I do. Oh, well, you keep yourself busy. We're going to send you out some help, okay. You're already educating early children. Yeah. You've got eight of them. You've got one of classrooms worth already. Yeah, I do. Oh, well, you keep yourself busy. We're going to send you out some help, Lisa. Eight kids, good on you. Yeah. Have a good one, Aniceta.

Thank you, you too. Love your work. There you go. I just learned what her work was, and I'm already loving it. Yeah, well, that is our show for Thursday. You have yourself a great day. Enjoy the new alert levels. We'll catch you tomorrow.

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