Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL: Are We In A Scam-demic...

Episode Date: August 28, 2022

Today on the Jono and Ben podcast we chat about Dad stats and why your Dad is the best, we chat to Stephen Kho an expert in cyber-security on what is happening in the scam-demic and Simon Bridges joins us!    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Kia ora, it's the 29th of August today. Welcome along to the podcast, Benjamin Boyce. Good to be here on the podcast today. It's been a frantic morning, hasn't it? It has been one of those. But really when it's busy for our thing, it's been busy for us,

but really when you put it in perspective. Yeah, it's, you know. Sometimes for a radio show, you feel like, what are those, the reference to Duck Above Water, where you're trying to keep cool and calm on top. We don't. Yeah, a panicked duck above water.

But you know, there's some crazy stuff going on underneath as well. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of like it today, except the duck did not look relaxed on top or bottom. No, we need to do a better job of looking more relaxed, like the duck above water. We're just like a frenetic duck. We'd be like flapping as well as the panic underwater.

I really admire people who can handle stress. You know someone like take jacinda for example our fair prime minister here you go imagine what's coming at her every day yeah i couldn't i couldn't even give me an hour of that i wouldn't know what to do i'd be like leave me alone yeah i want to cry at the corner you know there's no off button there's no yeah You know It's just coming Coming at you And everything is important There's not one thing That people would be saying to her That wasn't important

And didn't require attention Or else they wouldn't say it to her But there would just be A torrent of stuff Imagine what she's getting Party goo raps out there He's saying this and that You know

Oh what is it now She didn't need She did not need goo raps Did she At all Oh no But yeah But that's what happens When you're in politics Oh there's protestors Outside the front lawn What is it now? She didn't need, she did not need goo wrap. Did she? At all. I know, but yeah.

But that's what happens when you're in politics. Oh, there's protesters outside the front lawn all day. They're telling you to go, they want you to leave. Yeah,

busy job. Oh, God, crazy stuff. But yeah, are you good at handling a stressful situation? Oh,

no, probably not. It's not, I can get better at it. Yeah, like sometimes with the reflection I'm a lot better That's not useful

Sometimes A week after the event I'm like, oh yeah, I should have done that With hindsight You can't That's when I'm really good at stress A week after the stressful event It's a good trick to be able to do.

Yeah. Some people are just cool, calm, and they're leaders, aren't they, in those situations. Tell you what, you can pretty much guarantee any radio announcer is not one of those people. Probably right. We're flighty, we're bloody, you know, shallow, unpredictable, you know. And Producer Joel's in here.

Now, Joel, you like to ask gay. Now, I saw Joel over the weekend. His former school. Yeah, his school. He goes to St. Peter's. St. Peter's College here, Auckland. Catholic education. I've sent my son along there.

Ben Boyce says I'm a plastic Catholic. How are you? You would have gone to church on Sunday, though, wouldn't you? I went to church. Yeah, you would have. I saw you at Chapel Bar and Bistro. Was that't you? I went to church. Yeah, you would have. Sweet, Chapel Bar and Bistro. Was that the church? Yeah, Chapel Bar.

Yeah, yeah. It had a chapel in the name, so it's fine. But the first of 15 was in the final against Kelston, and what a game. Jeez, it was at Eden Park. They had a lot of crowd there. I saw a little bit of them on Sky Sport over the weekend. Huge crowd.

And so much atmosphere. Like, I've been to an All Blacks game, and we all just sit there in silence waiting for them to win or lose whatever the case may be you know but it doesn't you go on there's people bouncing like it's like a football match it was great atmosphere we need more of that in New Zealand sports. Yeah it was really cool. It was a close game wouldn't it mate? It was close yeah I think the only thing that actually compares to first 15 rugby for me is probably that when the Warriors first came back to Mount Smart after a while

that was probably one of the most passion I'd actually seen at a sports game in a long time compared to that I just don't think like

NPC rugby and stuff has that anymore I also like I like the it was just the netball I went to the netball that was a lot of fun my mum I went to the netball

jeez it was a fun time you know there's people wearing sort of silly wigs and they're all about their dancing. Bam, bam, na, na, na, na. Let's go, girls.

They did it. And then they had the words on the screen and you can't help going out tonight. I'm feeling it. And all the mums would have been loving it. It was fun, you know. So that's another sport as well. I think they do really well in New Zealand.

Creating atmosphere. They're right. We could do a much better job of creating atmosphere in sport in New Zealand. We went to the football. We were lucky enough to go to the football overseas. And they were letting off, I mean, they went a bit far. They were letting off flares. There's a riot.

It turned into a riot. Can we turn it back maybe a couple of levels back from a riot? That's where we want to be. That's our sweet spot. It was electric. It's actually the Waiheke football, the Waiheke soccer team has like an electric

vibe like that as well. It's like, yeah, one of a kind over in the island over there. But they're like, yeah, Argentinians. Yeah. Flares and stuff,

which is great. Oh, yeah. They love flares. I was like, I'm never going to get out of here alive. But it was fun. We ran for our lives.

It was fun. Yeah. But that's, yeah, that's the sort of passion that we need. Yeah, you're right. Without the flares. But what's your question today,

Producer Joel? We're keeping it on topic for Father's Day and we might be talking about it later this week as well, but I wanted to ask you if you could have a hypothetical dad,

any, like a famous dad in the world, who would you choose? Oh, so this is like, anyone. Anyone, yeah,

yeah, could be anyone. Now you're either Yeah interesting And why Yeah right You've got to say why as well So they actually

They exist They could be like a celebrity Yeah yeah yeah Whatever Are you trying to better your life Are you going to go Dwayne the Royal Johnson Are you

Because I can see you Thinking about that That's where he was But then at first I thought of you know Like TV shows like the start of Marry the Children

where he was handing over all the money to the family that old show he would be a shocking dad he handed over a lot of money but then he was a good father in Modern Family he redeemed himself Phil Dunphy.

Yeah. I reckon, what's his name? Liam Neeson would be a good dad. Yeah. You know? Shocking. He kept losing his daughter. You know, but when he did,

Jeezy was going to get the daughter back. He lost his daughter four times. They made four of those movies. Yeah, but he will find you. Yeah, he'll just be like, mate, Liam, stop losing me. Yeah, true. Good point.

You haven't Given me any examples You just shot down all mine How about like Mr Levenstein From American Pie Remember Have you seen that Oh yeah

The dad of the Yeah Yeah he's like He tries to be like The young cool dad Was he Mr Levenstein Yeah yeah Because his name's

Eugene Levy in real life Yeah it is yeah They must have Gotcha yeah They did a good show Him and his son What was that one Yeah what's What is that show?

I can't think of it Schitt's Creek Yeah Schitt's Creek Yeah yeah Okay I'm going to go Trump Oh god okay Here's a podcast

Here's a podcast You're rich You're wealthy Podcast wrap him up mate Two semi-competent dads Handing out semi-competent parenting advice Jono and Ben On the hits

Father's Day It creep up, doesn't it? It's on Sunday. Father's Day on Sunday. No, it's not. That's what's happening. New Zealand has flogged that for many years. We're just going to say when the day is. Father's Day is coming up on Sunday.

There you go. And we want to do a little bit of a competition. You know the old schoolyard game of my dad's better than your dad. You'd have those debates, wouldn't you in the day it was brilliant you could go my dad's an astronaut and no one could prove that your dad wasn't an astronaut yeah now they just have to go online although when you think about it like if there was a kiwi astronaut that would definitely make news everyone would know about it yeah i was quite good at primary school because my dad was the headmaster so that was the worst to go to yeah well my dad's the headmaster so that was always a good well my dad's the headmaster

so right now I could get you a lot of trouble I could get you expelled but I probably couldn't I couldn't but yeah at least I had that did you ever use that

to your advantage Kevin Boyce being the headmaster no once I think I think when I was young I came home and I said dad such and such kids were doing this and he's like

hey I'm not in the house you know don't want my son to be a narc I'm not raising a narc. Now, go to your room. You're in detention. Go pick up some rubbish.

I just thought you should do it. Okay, sorry. I won't do it. Not in the house. Not in the house, mate. Okay, so I'll wait under that. We want your dad's stats. Why is your dad better than our dad?

Ben, you sent us a project over the weekend to go and ask our kids. Yeah, just why their dad is better than other dads. And I was like, to be honest, I'm not better than other dads. I know that. So it was a very tough ask to ask the kids. So here's Sienna and Indy yesterday when I asked them. I gave them a second to think about it, and then I was like, all right, why am I better than other dads?

All right, why is your dad better than other dads? Go. Well, no one goes to the airport earlier than you. That's true, no one goes to the airport earlier than you. That's true. No one goes to the airport earlier than me. No one tidies up and then doesn't know where anything is better than you. I know where things are. I just put them away in cupboards.

No one has a billion hand sanitizers. Okay, okay. You're getting silly now. No one can talk rubbish. All right, all right. Okay, okay. Here we go. I shouldn't ask you. So I wrapped them up there. You're getting silly now. You no one can talk rubbish. All right, all right. Okay, okay, here we go. Shouldn't ask you.

So I wrapped them up there. You're getting silly now. You do get to the airport early. Yeah, I do. That is... Well, I did the same thing. I asked... First, my son, Oscar.

My dad is the best because he has the most well-defined muscles and dashing looks and charisma. He looks like a mix between Jason Statham and Vin Diesel. Jason Statham. Jason Statham and Vin Diesel. He is the best dad in the history. This is all wrong.

So that was just natural for you. Just natural conversation. That's what I loved about that. Then I backed it up with Poppy as well. Hi, it's Poppy here. My dad is the coolest dad and he makes me laugh and is very good looking

and muscly and handsome and good looking and muscly and handsome and good looking and handsome. Um, I will pay you, oh, was I not supposed to? Okay, there we go. So, good looking, muscly and handsome.

All the things I think of when I think of you, yeah, definitely. So, 0800, that's the telephone number. My dad's better than your dad. Let's play the old game. What are your dad's stats? We'll get them on next. And not afraid to use the F word.

Be family friendly fun. Jono and Ben on the hits. We wanted to know why is your dad better than my dad? The old adage, the thing you used to say in the playground. We want some dad stats. Alan, my dad's better than your dad. What's your dad's stats? What are my dad's stats?

He's 84, he's old, drives me insane. But never had a ticket, and not a speeding ticket, and that is because I don't think his car goes over 35. He's 84 years old and never had a ticket, like a parking ticket?

Never, not a parking ticket, not a speeding ticket. Speeding tickets, he should actually get one for driving too slowly. I think he drives at two miles a fortnight. So he's obviously a very careful driver. Cautious would be, yeah, sure. But I just assume it's more nervous. But then again, that's his entire personality. He's nervous about every damn thing.

Oh, my God. Has this been fast forwarded 84 years? Yeah, this might have been a few years' time, that's for sure. Is he the type of driver you'd hear about on the news driving down the wrong way at the motorway? No, because he would have done a risk assessment prior to doing all of that. And so, no, he wouldn't be on the wrong side of the road,

but he'd be standing there telling you that you're driving too fast or too slow or that you've parked incorrectly or whatever the case may be. He's got an opinion about everything. Nice guy, but yeah, just... 84 years old, you're allowed to have an opinion about everything, aren't you? Definitely. He's earned his stripes.

Yeah, and you must have a certain age in life where you give zero cares about what anyone thinks about you. Yeah, and that's been pretty much all 84 years of his life. Thank you for your call, Alan. Appreciate it. All right, you guys take care. Emma, welcome to the show. Welcome to Dad Stats. What's your dad's stats?

He, sorry, he brushed his teeth with deep heat. Oh, geez, okay. I've done the same thing. The tubes look similar. Yeah, yeah. He came out of the bathroom and, yeah, he was doing the whole blowing out his mouth. This is a spicy toothpaste we've got right now.

Jeez. Did you separate the deep heat from the toothpaste after that? No. No, so he's done it more than once? Yeah. What? And he's, I don't know. He went to the bathroom with some on his hands.

Oh, no. That's an unfortunate. Deep heat, they really are dicing with a lot of, yeah. What? How much deep heat is he consuming? He does gardening, so he quite often. He's always rubbing it in. Yeah, yeah.

But not on his teeth normally or not in his groin region. Jeez, okay. How many deep heat incidents has your father had? Probably close to 10. What else has happened? Just the brushing of the teeth he's done more than once. The groin area. Yeah, just those ones mainly.

He's done it more than once. Like the seventh time brushing your teeth with deep heat, you're like, maybe it's time I remove the deep heat from the bathroom. Oh, no, he's, it more than once like the seventh time brushing your teeth with deep heat you're like maybe it's time i remove the deep heat from the bathroom oh no he's yeah no he's always making weird mistakes and things it's just yeah that's dad that's he sounds like a legend i love it yeah yeah he is he's i've got at least three text messages of other things that he's done in the like last month and a half oh Oh, well, fire the three. What else have you got, Emma? He nail gunned his hand to a plank of wood.

Oh, no. He had anaphylaxis to wasps and continued to mow the person's lawn. He actually finished mowing the person's lawn and then came home and was rushed to hospital with that. Oh, jeez. He completes. Once he starts a job, he completes the job. person's lawn and then came home and was rushed to hospital with that. Oh, jeez. Once he starts a job, he completes a job. He completes it, and then he got a shard of metal from sawing some fence tailings, and he used saline in it, so it was actually rusting in his eye. Oh, jeez.

This is just the last six weeks. Yeah. Oh, is this just the last six weeks? Yeah. Oh, your dad sounds incredible. Like what? You always got great stories

by the sound of it. Get a text message and it's like, oh yeah, that's dad. You know, he's alright. Dad's deep

heated his mouth again. Yeah, that's the one. Oh, that's amazing. Those are some good dad stats, Emma.

Really appreciate your call. You're going to have a great day. You too. Thank you. Talking husband and wife stuff. Jono to have a great day. You too. Thank you. Talking husband and wife stuff. Jono and Ben on the hits.

Now, I've been with my wife for many years now, and I thought I found all the things for us to have discussions, to have debates about, but there's a new one. It's called you had out-argued every argument. Yeah, right. You've raised up a level? Oh, no, not raised up. Just found a new debate to have in our relationship.

Sometimes you see like 85-year-old, 90-year-old still bickering away. You guys have still got a bit left of the tank here. You've done this. You've talked recently about this. You have the debate, who's more tired? That's a debate of who's more tired. That's a good one. It's always me.

Is that you? Yeah. Well, you always fall asleep. The thing is you can't prove how tired you are someone's more tired yeah yeah so that's one they had and but then when we get in the car you know often we would have a debate about who knows the fastest way to go somewhere that would be the usual debate but we found a new one as i say google maps generally wins that one but sometimes it's like oh no this is the first one i think this is you know so that's a debate we have from time to time but now the debate is because there's one phone charger in the car so now this debate is whose

phone's got the most battery left to use the phone charger so that'll be the thing it'll be like oh can i charge my phone oh sorry mine's at 37 i've got mine at the moment and then we oh no no mine's at 22 i really need you know and then it becomes a little bit of a debate of whose phone, much like the tiredness debate, but at least you've got stats on this one. You can actually measure it. But like 37%, like if you, for example, are at 37, Amanda's at 22, 37's an annoying amount of battery.

Like you'll want to get above that 50. Exactly. You'll want to get above that 50 threshold and you're going to go, well, let me charge to at least 50. Yeah, I know you're on 22, but what do we want? Do we want one that above that 50 threshold And you're going to go Well let me charge to at least 50 Yeah I know you're on 22 Yeah But what do we want Do we want one that's over 50

And then I don't like Once it's charged I don't like taking it out Like I'm like Well let's give it as much juice as you can Because I know it's not good for the battery She's like Well just you've had it for a bit

Can I put mine in now You're like Whose car are we in Well this is my car Your car Your charge baby It's your charge Yeah

Yeah well that's all I think. Yeah, you've still got another couple of hours on 22%. Don't use your apps. Shut your apps down. Isn't there like a mode you can turn it to so it doesn't use up as much battery life? Just let Ben get to at least 60. So that's the new debate.

At what stage should I be taking mine out? You reckon at 60 to go? Yeah, I reckon. Because there's no point in charging it otherwise. Like you say, you want to have a good amount of juice. Yeah. Otherwise, pointless plugging it in. Oh, yeah.

Sort that out. Just a couple of dads screaming on the sidelines of their kids' sports games. Jono and Ben on the hits. Now, I know there's not a lot to celebrate on the sporting field for our country over the weekend, but Ben Boyce, I might... Oh, Black Ferns won. Oh, well done to the Black Ferns. Beat Australia.

Adelaide. Yeah, good win. Well, there was another big win too. And it came from me. Something the whole country could be proud of. So, many years ago, Ben, I claimed that I threw a basketball 50... Oh God, there's so many times I've heard this story. 50 metres and it bounced off a wall.

It's got longer wall it's got longer I know the house you're talking about but it wasn't 50 meters what you claim was a long shot with a little kids basketball the only one around to witness it was my son who couldn't talk at the time conveniently

he was a toddler he landed in a child sized basketball hoop on the lawn I know the house you're talking about it's quite far away than what you claim He was a toddler. He was a baby. It landed in a child-sized basketball hoop on the lawn. I know the house you're talking about. It's quite far away than what you claim. 300 metres. Oh, jeez. Anyway, I got that shot in.

But no one was there, like Ben said, to vocalise the success. Well, guess what happened yesterday? Okay? My daughter's training for netball at the moment, as I know your kids are too. Big netball season. Too much netball. Not netball. You were at a tournament yesterday, weren't you? Yeah, I know. Yeah. And so Big netball season. Too much netball. Not netball. You were at a tournament yesterday.

Yeah, I know. So I was like, alright, we'll wheel the hoop out. So the hoop was in the driveway. No one's around. I'm just prepping for the netball sesh. I'm at one end of the driveway, 422 metres away. No, it wasn't that far away. About 40 metres away.

40 metres. After the show we're going to go and see if we can throw a netball 40 metres away. 40 metres. Okay. After the show, we're going to go and see if we can throw a netball 40 metres. Not even to get it at home, but see if we can... Okay, 20. Maybe 20. 40 metres. 20.

20 metres. Okay. I throw it. I throw it. I'm like, I bet this is going to go in. Boom. Swish. Jen, my wife, walks out of the door a second later i was like did you

see that did you see that she's looking at me like see what and i was like it's happened again now i see why producer joel your generation what are you googling how long is a netball court it's 30 meters long so that's essentially one and one third netball court you have a shot from mate it went in it went in and if Noelene Taurua

had seen that she would have phoned me up she's like I need you in the Silver Ferns I was like I've got the wrong genitalia she's like I don't care

I'll make an exemption I was like alright Noelene Taurua I'll be there so I got another miracle shot in two in a lifetime Ben okay good now do you believe me

no not at all why not I have to ask another miracle shot in. Two in a lifetime, Ben. Okay, good. Now do you believe me? No. Not at all. Why not? Why would I come to work and make that story up? After eight o'clock, I know you're desperate to talk about it on the radio.

I'll ask Jen. When Jen gets in there, she won't see it either. No, but she'll go, oh, he's making a big fuss about getting a ball in. So you know it happened. If I'm making a fuss, it happened.

Kia ora, I'm Sam Worthington, and this is the Beeping News. Yes, what a shocking way to start the week for our respected newsreader, Sam Worthington. Welcome back to the studio, Sam. Morena. Morena. Now, birthday last week up north. Russell, nice. Yeah, it was lovely.

So good. Ben has an issue with Russell. Well, no, I love it. My mum lives there, so it's beautiful. But the thing is, it's one of the first places in New Zealand, so everywhere they have signs saying, it's the oldest police station, it's the oldest pub, it's the oldest church, and after a while you're like,

I get it, everything's got to be the oldest because you were the first. But yeah, so that's my main issue with it. But it's a lovely place. Clearly it didn't rock you up, though, over the weekend. No, no. No, not as much as it was. Of course it's going to be the oldest show.

Sam's like looking at a goat. Yeah, okay. Anyway, this is the News and Beats. This is where Sam gets some news headlines, some quirky news headlines, and beeps out a certain word, and we need to work out what it is. Now, you've got some journalistic credibility, Sam. Do we make you go onto Ladbible and find these stories? Do we make you do this?

No comment. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All right, here's the first one. Locals furious as Russell Brand rumoured to be turning Villagers Only pub into... Ooh, Russell Brand. Now, Russell, he's leading a pretty clean life now, isn't he? Sort of vegan, vegetarian, very holistic.

I'm going to go he's turned a local pub into a vegan yoga retreat. Oh, okay. And they're not happy. I'm going to say he's turned a local pub into a supermarket selling nothing but home brand, which is he's getting into the home brand products based after his last name. That's a pun.

Do you like puns, Sam? Yeah. That was a good one. I feel like you're mocking me. All right, what's the headline? So locals are furious because he's turning the only pub into a vegan restaurant. Oh, he is? Yeah.

Oh, there he is. Johnny, you got it. I thought it would be something like that because he's very, I watch him online now and he online now and he got down the rabbit hole during COVID. The poor guy. He let it get away on himself like many people. He did. He would have been on the lawns of Parliament with a tinfoil hat on. But he's very healthy.

So I imagine if it was your local pub, you'd be like, oh, really? There's a vegan restaurant down the road from my house. No one's ever in it. I'm sure there is. There isn't. Every time I drive past. There used to be a meat... Anyway.

Next headline, Sam. British firefighters rescue man with hand stuck in... Hmm. Well, I'm going to say his hand was stuck. I'm going to say he went to put some mail in the mailbox in the post box and got his hand stuck in the post box. Yeah, I've got... My letterbox doesn't allow me to stick my hand stuck in the post box that yeah i've got my letter

box doesn't allow me to stick my hand fully in yeah i would say that i'm gonna say man uh stuck with his hand in a bush you know to one in the bush two two two in the bird well no that what you said is not a saying but there is a saying there somewhere what's the hand one in the bush what's the actual headline uh so british firefighters rescued a man with his hand stuck in his couch. His couch? Yeah. Oh, so he went down between the couch to try and get some money or something like that between?

I'm not sure what he was trying to look for, but it was in the couch. Yeah, we were talking about this last week. It's a wonderland of missing items in the back of the couch, isn't it? You've all sorts of stuff in there. All right, the final one, Sam. Elon Musk makes mum sleep in when she visits. I'm going to say

Mrs. Musk. I'm assuming Mrs. Musk. Yeah. He makes her sleep in the boot of a Tesla. I was thinking the same thing. The Tesla in the garage. Yeah, sleep in a Tesla. Well, you were kind of close, so it's in the garage. In the garage?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. But he's like a millionaire. But although he's quite frugal, isn't he? He is quite frugal. Apparently Grimes was saying when she was living with him, I think they were married, were they, for a while?

Grimes and him. They lived on just a very humble house. And that's all I had on that one. Remember our old boss did not get along with his mother-in-law at all. And he would hire her a port-a-loo to go and use when she'd come and stay

on the house. She couldn't use the facilities inside. Had to go outside to use there. It was generous. Yeah, she said it's at the SpaceX station, so he can't build a nice house there or something. Oh, so she sleeps in the garage of the space station?

Yeah. Oh, I imagine it's enormous. Yeah, it's probably a lot nicer than what we were imagining. My garage is full of old costumes and props and stuff. Sam Worthington, thank you very much. Great work, mate. Thanks, guys. Warning, this Worthington, thank you very much. Great work, mate. Thanks, guys. Warning, this show contains Jono and Orban.

Jono and Ben on the hits. The pandemic, and we all know about that, but there's a scandemic going on. Scandemic. There's also a ramdemic too with ram raids. A lot of demics going on at the moment. We're going to talk to Stephen Coe, who's an expert with scamming, very shortly.

What should you look out for? Is there something that you can put onto your computer to prevent being scammed? He'll be on in five minutes. Yeah, because it is everywhere. It's rife through Facebook, Instagram, it's everywhere, all over the internet at the moment. And actually over the weekend I was even watching a documentary,

it's on Netflix, it's just popped up, about Manti Teo, who was a footballer, NFL footballer. And it's a famous story that happened in America that I wasn't really aware of. He got scammed. He got catfished a few years ago. Have a listen to this. Manti Teo had an absolutely astounding senior year.

His grandmother and girlfriend, Lene Kikua, had died the same night He dedicated his season to them It was an amazing story I'm in it with me, you know I miss him One problem, his girlfriend did not exist So what happened? He never met this person that he was Interacting with online, but they forged

A relationship and formed, yeah And in the end, turned out didn't exist at all. Well, was it with someone else pretending to be that person? So he was a professional football player. And he kind of got made fun of at the end when this whole thing came out as a bit of a, as a hoax. He was duped, but the poor guy was getting jokes made on him on Saturday Night Live.

He basically lost millions of dollars. Did he give millions of dollars to the scammer? Unfortunately, he hadn't really passed off any money, but he lost millions of dollars because his confidence just went in football because everyone was like oh he was part of this hoax he's like no it wasn't like yeah he went from like going to be earning millions to basically his career pretty much was all over this is he'd be embarrassed too if you got scammed to one of those romance ones as well because his family are like have you met this person he's like yeah yeah i have but only because he was embarrassed to say that he hadn't actually met the person.

And every time they'd go to FaceTime, there was always a problem with a connection or something like that. But it just, yeah. It was like you, I first knew you for the first five years. You're like, I'm married, honestly. And I never met Amanda. Never met her. He kept her. And then one day she came out.

A lot of chat was going on. We didn't believe you for about five years. But just this morning, I got an email. Subject line, your grandson's been arrested for drugs in mexico oh yeah grandson again yeah my grandson i look old enough to have a grandson it's a lot to download isn't it when you realize you've got a grandson locked up in me so it says spoke to your sister she's not happy oh she wouldn't be happy a lot a lot you're like wow you're only just learning about your sister right now hey so yeah in a moment we're going to talk to an expert on what we need to do to not be Happy? She wouldn't be happy. You're like, wow, you're only just learning about your sister right now. Hey, so yeah, in a moment we're going to talk to an expert on what we need to do to not be scammed.

Because it's happening. Over $3 million this year alone, Kiwis. That's how much we've been scammed out of. But Debbie, remember Debbie a couple of weeks ago? Now, she loves it. She loves it when someone calls up and tries to scam her because she has a little thing that she does. Have a listen to Debbie. Ben, sorry, is the phone ringing You've been starring as the phone ring.

Ring, ring, ring, ring. Hello? Oh, hello. Is that Debbie? I don't know. You tell me. On my records, it says it's Debbie's number. No, I think you've got the wrong number, mate.

No, I don't. Are you? No. No, I am. Well, you haven't even let me read out the number. No. No, no. I think you've got the wrong number. I've got a wonderful investment opportunity for you today, Debbie.

Not interested, sorry. Not interested in whatever you're scamming, thanks. Free money. No, not interested. No, no, no, you've come up as potential fraud on my call ID, thanks. Sorry, bye. Oh, but I'm not. No, no, no, no.

Oh, you're still there? No, no, no, no. Still there? No, no. No, no, Debbie's still doing it. Sorry, damn it. I came in too soon. It was a wonderful role play by us, wasn't it?

She used to take that on a tour, that show. And she even had a scam whistle. She did. So if she thought there was a scammer on the phone, blows a whistle down the phone. And actually, it didn't hurt my ears that much, the whistle. No. But as annoying as all the penalties that racked up against the All Blacks over the weekend against Argentina.

Hey, hey, next, Stephen Coe. What do you need to look out for when you're being scammed? Are you being scammed? Can you protect yourself? All these answers. Next. This is the Jono and Ben podcast. Wall-to-wall talking without the niggly popular songs in between.

Now, we're in the middle of a bit of a scandemic, it seems, at the moment. And Stephen Coe from Avast is going to join us right now to tell us how we can stop ourselves from getting scammed. It's happening all the time. Stephen, good morning. Good morning. Hi. Thank you. Jaren Ben.

Cyber security expert, Stephen Coe. It's lovely to have you on. You're from Avast. That's right. It's an anti-malware company. Right, because apparently we're in the middle of a scandemic. There was the pandemic.

Now we're in the middle of a scandemic. Yes, as we all know, we're all experiencing a lot of scams, meaning we're receiving scams through our SMS messages, emails,

and all social media as well. Whether it's tax-related scams or Valentine's Day scams or whatever it is. It's relentless, isn't it? The scammers are relentless. There's a lot of people posing as other people. Actually, just before, producer Joel, who's with us right now, his girlfriend got a message last night from Jono.

Yeah, on Instagram. Jono Pryor. It was actually a zero instead of the O in the username. But yeah, requesting my girlfriend. You know, that's definitely me, though. That's not a scam. Just get it a click of the link, though. I need to click the link.

There's almost a problem. They go to a lot of effort. This has got the photo of Jono on there. It looks legit. They've got all the same details as his actual account. They go to a lot of effort, Stephen. Yeah, and what you just talked about there is a very targeted one. We call that phishing or spear phishing.

So it's very targeted. They tailor it to you, and they want to get to you because out of research, most people, nearly half, admitted that if a message is addressed personally, they're more likely to act on it and believe on it. So definitely very tricky and very seasonal. So scammers follow the money and they go with what's happening kind of around the world. So if there's a disaster or there's Valentine's Day or there's tax time,

they do the theme and blend it in so that it invokes your emotion. Basically, they try to get you in by creating fear and urgency. They keep it topical, the scammers. They obviously go for mass, and even if they get one or two on the hook, that pays dividends. For sure. Scams these days, you know,

a lot of them come through our SMS messages, and they're so cheap to send. So if they send several million, and they get a couple of percent hit rate, and that's a success. So in fact, just from January to March this year in New Zealand, over $3.7 million were already lost to financial scams. That's this year. It's significant. Courier one, that often will happen as well. They'll go, oh, you've got a package coming, you've

just got to pay a little bit more for something for the package to arrive. And often you're like, oh, yeah, I do have a package coming. And then you're about to click on the, oh, hang on. That's right. The delivery ones are so common, especially when we had this pandemic and we're all at home and buying online and I'm getting everything delivered. It's hard to pick out what's real and what's not. Yeah, it's got to the point where I

I don't trust anything I don't trust, even I got an email from my mum saying I love you darling, I was like don't trust it I do not buy it she's trying to stiff me out of something this person, because there was a great time for scamming Stephen the scammers and us, the public

we knew what was going on we had to watch out for an overly wealthy Nigerian prince who needed to deposit his funds somewhere. You know, a couple of schmucks fell for it. But that was it. That was it. It's just become so complex and complicated that it feels like navigating through the internet.

You feel like a tourist with a bum bag on, walking through. That's a good way of describing it. But you're right. The scams are now a long-term play. So there are short scams where they just send you a message, click on this, get a malware, steal your banking details. Sophisticated groups of scammers that do, for example, romance or financial scams where they build a relationship

and over many months get you their trust and make a career friendship. And then suddenly, oh, their mother's now sick or their friend's now in hospital and then they need money. And I imagine, you know, particularly with the relationship ones, a lot of embarrassment would come along with that too, I imagine. Yeah, and that's the thing. It becomes so, you know, how did I fall for it? I feel stupid. I feel down. But of course, you know, having a reputable anti-malware,

anti-malware software like Avast One, which is free, is really important because it's like having your doors and windows locked so that the simple, non-targeted, common malware will get picked up. Because that's what you're doing at Avast, right? That's right. We have a free version of the software that protects. Free?'s what you're doing at Avast, right? That's right. We have a free version of the software that protects Free? You're scamming me. Sounds like a scam, Stephen.

Sounds like a scam, Stephen. No, we're not giving you anything. It's just free. You're not going to make any money. This is a really complex scam you've got going on here. Okay, so Avast.com are free. That's awesome. That's awesome you guys are doing that and protecting a lot of New Zealanders because it sounds like we all need that protection right now.

You know the ones where you get a text and it's like, click on this link. As soon as I click on the link, have they got access to my whole phone or computer? So what happens is when you click on something, it normally then downloads a piece of malware. Now it'll try and install itself. So it's like a Trojan software, they call it, on the background. If you don't have any anti-malware software to guarding your phone, you'll probably install quietly.

You won't even notice. And then from there on, they've got a foot pole, and they can steal stuff. Okay, interesting to know. Well, listen, this has been a great chat Stephen go and keep being paranoid

on the internet and you've made us all paranoid about the internet too thank you John and Ben

great to be in your show yeah your official station for motivation we do this every Monday just to get

things started Ben this is this is really motivating I found this on YouTube on Saturday morning. Yeah. And, you know, when life gets you down,

it's kicking dirt in your face. Well, have a listen. It sounds more motivational when it comes from someone else. When you get into a tight spot and everything goes against you until it seems that you cannot hold on for a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the

place and time that the tide will turn. There are times when your energy feels so depleted that you want to give up that it looks just totally impossible. And I can tell you from my own personal experience, don't give up then. That's when you've got to fall forward. When life is kicking dirt in your face, don't give up then. That's when most people turn back. Never give up. What was that? I don't know who that person is, but they got me jazzed up. Yeah.

Even when life gets dirt in your face, don't have a shower. Keep on going. Yeah. Never give up. Smoking. If you're having an affair, never give up. No, I don't know. Just keep on going. never give up. Smoking, if you're having an affair, never give up. Just keep on going. Never give up. Don't you always cut these motivational, now you've made it. Now you're like, I don't know what to believe.

No, but that's not, now you're trying to pull it back. I'm a roller coaster. Are you? Yeah, but isn't it a great saying? You don't never give up. Well, it was until you put in those other things. Until you said smoking, never give up. You're like, oh, hang on.

Hard-hitting interviews and informed opinion. Mike Hosking on Newstalk TV. In the meantime, Jono and Ben on the hits. The Masked Singer is on three on Sunday nights. And last night, a real surprise, Simon Bridges, former National Party leader, he joins us in the studio right now. You were evicted from The Mouth Singer, but yeah, what a singer.

Oh, thank you. Look, I really enjoyed it. I, you know, I've done quite, for my sins, done quite a few of these ridiculous shows over the years. And I think I enjoy that more than any of the others. This is you last night singing a little bit here you're a great singer yeah it's sort of reminiscent of johnny cash or something you were the robot uh so you're performing as the robot but then you had to perform it with uh with the mask off what is that is confronting experience? It is, actually. Because I think there is something about having the mask on. You know, like, not that I'm shy or anything,

but it's sort of like, oh, well, I've got the mask on and you can kind of feel free to go for it. And although, like that robot, I don't want to have sour grapes here, but I feel like the robot was very hard to move. Constricted. He would have been pulling out some Razor Robinson breakdowns. I don't want to have sour grapes here. But I feel like the rope, it was very hard to move. Constricted. I was like, so. He would have been pulling out some Razor Robinson breakdancers. He so would have.

Is it quite secret, the show, though? Because, you know. Very secret. Do you have any idea who the other contestants are? No. I mean, I was quite, to the point of amused, right? Because they were putting me, which my 10 and 8-year-old boys now love. They gave me, like, this big buddy boxing jacket robe,

and you've got the dark sunglasses on. Oh, to come into the field. Oh, totally. It's just very kind of controlled. So I don't think the majority of staff or anyone know, right? And then they're very careful that you don't see the others. So you're playing along watching it as well, obviously, trying to figure it out.

I've got no idea who these people are, but we've got to the pointy end where some of these people left are incredibly good. So I just feel, I feel blessed to have got through three songs, right? I mean, in some ways, because that penguin, she is, she is. She's a singer.

Yeah, yeah. She's very good. They're going to pull that off and it's going to be like, I don't know, Ariana Grande or something. Yeah, Celine Dion. Celine Dion down here. That would be good.

Simon Bridges with us now. Now, post-politics, you're now the big boss at the Auckland Chamber of Commerce. Yeah, that's right. So I've been a month into that. So far, so good. But no, it's really good being a champion for small, medium-sized businesses. So yeah, life is great. Do you miss politics?

Do you miss politics? Do you look at the news and obviously where there's protests or where they see the bullying stuff, all that stuff that's going on, and you're like, thank goodness, that part of my life is kind of... You've got it. You've understood this. I mean, and I don't mean that in any way. Like, what makes me sad genuinely is sort of looking at it all, but the various bits and pieces at the moment,

it's sort of like who would do it you know it's like because it's important and you need good people who are going to put themselves forward and no one's perfect and that's not to make excuses for anything so I sort of sit there and think oh I'm glad I did it but I am glad to be out of it

I'm glad to make a contribution I learnt a lot it was an amazing privilege but no good grief it's great to be I mean, I'm glad to make a contribution. I learned a lot. It was an amazing privilege. But no, good grief. It's great to be out in the free world. I know there's all the conversations around bullying and stuff. But when you look at question time, you're like, that's just one giant bullying session.

In a way, though, you're right. We do have some hypocrisy about these things. It's a bit like that ad with the guy and the budgie smugglers walking and it's okay okay and then suddenly it's not okay right it's like and i'm not being i don't want to be too flippant about this but it is there's there are all those things right there are some things where it's like well that's okay even though it's probably not and that's not okay you know even though it was 20 years ago so yeah it is getting harder there's huge scrutiny if you're far in public you might years ago so yeah it is getting harder there's huge scrutiny

if you're far in public you might be cancelled for that it's sort of like oh do you look at jacinda who you would know very well do you think regardless if she wins the election or do you think she's got enough in the tank to go another term because it would be so taxing to be a training job yeah it's um i suppose in the end only she knows that but i don't believe like what some people say which oh she's gonna gonna sneak away i don't believe that i think you know she's a politician she's been there now a long time she knows what she's about so i've got no doubt she'll take labor into the election whether who wins or not i genuinely don't know i mean i know that's probably not saying anything, but it's some people say, oh, it's definitely going to be those guys. It's definitely going to be those guys.

I think this looks very close. But again, it sounds a bit kind of cliche, but there are big issues. So I think the main thing is people get themselves informed. They think about it in the lead up to the election because we're playing for our country, I suppose. Yeah. I don't know. This all feels a bit depressing. It was nice to be on The Masked Singer.

Yeah, let's give it to Masked Singer. Sing a few songs, take my helmet off. Let's have some stuff of Simon Bridges singing again. That's funny. That was nice. Cute and nice fluffy chips. Here we go. We really brought the mood down, didn't we?

Simon Bridges, what a singer. Yeah. What a man. Thank you very much for coming in, mate, and I'm glad you're enjoying your new chapter in life. Hey, cheers, guys. Really good to see you, as always. Nice to see you too.

Take care. With a Healthstar rating of zero, John O'Hanman on the hits. Now, I think the reason I missed the rugby is because, Ben, we worked a long day on Friday, bro. We did, actually, yeah. We were up at 3.30 and we didn't, I don't think we got home till 11.

Yeah. That was long. I can't even count how many hours that is. Maybe 20, 19 hours of nonstop work. Yeah, we had a few things. Was it work? Well, yeah. Well, work for us.

I mean, we're not out there doing, you know. Proper jobs. Proper jobs, exactly. So I won't say it was work. It was just 19 hours functioning. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of the time just sitting down, too.

A lot of sitting. So it wasn't that stressful. Yeah, it wasn't stressful, but it was a long day. You're right. Yeah, And a lot of the time just sitting down too. A lot of sitting. So it wasn't that stressful. Yeah, it wasn't stressful, but it was a long day. You're right. Yeah, it was fun though. What we want to know is who listening right now works the longest day. It's the 60 O'Clock Hub. You're 60 and you know it.

Yeah, so right now it's obviously 6.09 is the time. Yeah, who has got the longest day ahead of them right now? Who are we still going at 6, 7 o'clock tonight? We'd love to know at 0800 the hits or 4487 on the text. I reckon there'd be people working 18-hour days every day. Some people. 18 hours? That's a big day.

It's a big day. Maybe that's overshooting the mark. Yeah. But some days, maybe. You're right. Some days might be that. We've got some hell pizza to give away to whoever's working the longest. Emily.

Emily's on the phone. Should we get Emily on now? Chugger on live. All right. You're sixy and you know it. Emily, you're on from Taranaki. You're sixy and you know it. How long do you work?

So I'm currently averaging about 14 and a half hour days. What do you do? I'm a dairy farmer. So what time are you getting up for that? Four and a half hour days. What do you do? I'm a dairy farmer. Ah. So, yeah, so what time are you getting up for that? So, currently I'm getting up at four. Yeah. I go out, I'll check, I'll do my vet wash,

set my shed up, check my swing of cows, get cows in for milking, build my colostrum cows, feed my calves. Yeah, milking, a lot of milking. Ben spends it. A lot of milking, yeah. Then I have to go home and do, like, you know, the mum cows, feed my calves. Yeah, milking, a lot of milking. Ben spends it. A lot of milking, yeah. Then I have to go home and do, like, you know, the mum duties, feed the kids, get them to school, clean the house, back on the farm.

And then you go back out to the farm because they get milked in the afternoon, don't they? Yeah, yeah. So, like, I'll do day work and then I'll go get the kids from school. Then I bring them back out onto the farm. Wow. And it's more milking, more checking cows, feeding calves, and then home to do dinner.

Emily, when do you get time to just sit down and milk yourself? I think I get maybe like an hour before I get the kids in the afternoon. My gosh. Fourteen and a half hours a day. I'm exhausted. You just told me what you do every day and I'm tired. Emily, we're going to hook you up with some hell pizza, all right, to try and make one dinner time this week a little easier.

Fantastic. Thanks, guys. Keep it up if you can beat Emily. An inseparable duo. Unless someone better shows up, he's just going to replace with Lee Hart and or Ford Smith. Jono and Ben on the hits. We want to know who's working the longest day.

Who is up now and is going to be still going later into the evening? Have you ever done an honest day's work in your life? Like an honest day's work? I don't know what an honest... No. Imagine if you're like, oh, I'm a bank robber. I've got no chance of doing an honest day's work. I mean, you worked in a plug factory.

What were the hours you used to do? He would assemble plugs in a factory. That was a holiday job, and that was not for me. Hey, some people were really good at it and I was always behind on my quota. Like I felt like,

yeah. Just stressing out there, you're like, I'm 20 plugs down. They gave you like, you had to put these things together and you put them in a container and then they'd go,

okay, you should be getting through say 50, 60 of these over an hour or whatever and I'd be like, but I'm only doing half of that. And I'm like, boys! It wasn't quite as bad as that

but I felt like I was letting the team down. This guy who was sitting next to me, though, he would often help me out and make extra ones for me. He'd go over his quota, and then I was like... Oh, what a sweetheart. He's like, I know you're behind this week, so here you go. Thanks, mate. What a nice guy.

Were you that guy on the line, were you? I was that guy, yeah. So I didn't last long. I was only there for the holidays. Listen, we just spoke to someone in Taranaki Dairy Farmer. 14 and a half hours a day they work. We're trying to beat that. The longest hours for the 6 o'clock club this morning.

Kyle. We'll go to Anonymous, actually. We'll go to Anonymous first. Anonymous, welcome. You're 6-y and you know it. Yeah, nearly. Yeah, welcome. Welcome to the 6 o'clock club, welcome. You're 60 and you know it. Yeah, nearly. Yeah, welcome. Welcome to the 6 o'clock club.

How many hours a day are you doing? Up to 24. Up to 24? But that's the day. That's right. There's no more day. There's nothing. There's nothing else.

You're like, you can't go any more than what you're doing. Oh, no. Then you finish that and you do your next one What? When do you stop? You don't Are you getting any sleep at all? Yeah, I sleep in there at times for some What do you do?

Yeah, are you allowed to say what you do? I work for Fire and Emergency New Zealand Oh, firefighter Now, you guys at the moment, you need our support, don't you? A little bit. We're nice. Yeah. So what is it now for those, because I saw there was protests on Friday we drove past,

actually, and I was honking. And they were happy that I was honking, but I felt like, well, me honking's not doing much. Like, it made me feel better about life. It made you feel like you were supporting it. But how can we actually support the cause? Yeah, but we're all standing on the side going, thanks for honking, but by God, just stay safe because we can't do anything

if you crash. Yeah, exactly. So did my honk do anything? Like, is it going to help you? It made us feel better. Oh, that's good. So what is the issue with the fire service at the moment, for those that don't know? There's a whole lot of issues. A lot of it's to do with things like mental health and things.

Right. People are going to a lot of events that are pretty traumatic. I can imagine. And understaffed, overworked? Understaffed, overworked, lack of equipment. You've got people running into fires being paid $23 an hour. Wow. Jeez.

So you're asking, what are you asking from the big wigs? It's up to the union, really, but basically they'd like some kind of pay raise and maybe some more mental health care to allow people to have a working wage so they don't have to do 24-hour shifts. I saw something in the day saying one of the fire trucks that we're using, I can't remember where it was, had been around for a long, long time

and often would break down. So I guess better equipment as well to do the job that they need to do. That would be fantastic. That would be really good. And that way you can actually help people quicker and hopefully make more of a difference to them surviving. And a lot of the smaller volunteer stations are shutting down too, aren't they? I don't know if they're shutting down.

A lot of them are having trouble getting members, to my knowledge. Right. If anyone else feels like going and volunteering at a local one, feel free. I've just got the website, firecrisis.nz, if you want to help out. Yep, that's the one. That's it. Or you can honk your horn. Yeah, don't make me go to firecrisis.nz, if you want to help out. Yeah, that's the one. That's it. Or you can honk your horn. Yeah, don't make me go to firecrisis.nz.

Hey, you have a great day, and get some sleep when you can. I absolutely will. I'll make sure everyone stays safe between 11 and 12 on Fridays. The Jono and Ben Podcast, the world's number one podcast. Please don't check those stats. We're up early. We wanted to know on 0800 the hits. Who else is up early, and who's got the biggest day ahead of them yeah this is the uh six o'clock

club we affectionately call it you're sexy and you know it a lot of emphasis on the six sexy and you know a lot of times it's like why is johnny saying everyone's sexy and they know it it's a bit odd too when you first wake up in the morning some guy's barking down the radio it's better written down the 60 and you know it. Yeah, so today's the topic for the year 60 and you know it. Who's working the longest, longest hours? Kyle, how long are you working, baby? 16 hours.

What do you do, Kyle? I'm a caregiver. Oh, lovely. You're doing some good work out there. Yeah, no, I like looking after people and all that, so it's rewarding, but it can also

be exhausting after a while. So what does a day involve for you, caregiving? Yeah, just getting people up and giving them the showers that can't be able to help themselves. You know, so yeah, making sure their needs are all met. So do you up and giving them the showers that can be able to help themselves you know so yeah making sure their needs are all met so you do how many people would you

shower a day oh it could be anything up to six or eight but yeah the thing yeah there's probably more people we look after and making sure they're all feed and yeah and looked after. Oh, good on you for doing what you do, yeah. 16 hours a day you do that. I do that about two or three days a week, you know, just to cover the people that are sick over the winter and COVID was pretty bad too.

And imagine, because your job wouldn't stop during COVID. These people still need to be cared for, right? No, that's right. And it was bad when a lot of the staff got it as well, you know. And lucky we were in a position to all help each other get through it. Absolutely. And then you've got to go home and shower yourself. Yeah, look after yourself.

You know, you can't let your hygiene slip, can you? Just because you've been looking after everyone else's. Definitely not. You never appreciate a good shower after all that. I bet, I bet. Well, Ben, just rest assured, I'll shower you when you need to be showered. Thanks, Joe. If you need any advice, you know not who to call. Yeah, I'll call you when you need to be showered. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate it. If you need any advice, you know not who to call.

Yeah, I'll call you, Kyle. How do I get into the undercarriage and all that business? But we'll get to that later. Thank you. Have a great day. Appreciate you listening, all right? Hey, next, we're Elon Musk makes his mum sleep when she comes to visit. Apparently it'll amaze us all.

That's in the news. Scrolling through your feed. Now, there is a bit of a defamatory word, Ben, that rhymes with anchor. I'm not going to say it on this show. Okay. Our standards are higher than that. But you take the W away from anchor, and that's what you get right now. A great news anchor.

Here he is. Well, obviously over the weekend, we're still talking about it. A stunning result. Argentina claimed their first victory on New Zealand soil. 25-18 win in Christchurch. Now he kicks it out. Argentina win for the first time in New Zealand. Wow, what a win.

Nisbet couldn't be happier. Yeah, that's from Sky Sports. That little bit of audio. Third home defeat in a row for the All Blacks. Two losses against Ireland. July, they've now lost six of their last eight tests, the All Blacks. And did you see the newspaper headline crop, unfortunate crop that I sent? You know how sometimes when it's on the mobile section you look at?

I was looking yesterday at the news and it cropped it out. Unfortunately, as I said, All Blacks coach Ian Foster puts puts on bra but then it was me to say brave face yeah just the crop just the crop sort of yeah just came out i was like oh mate leave him alone you didn't leave him alone you screenshot it you sent it to us did you put it on social media yeah put it on social media oh leave but leave it below yeah but even the even the fans and you would imagine the Christchurch fans, a lot of them would be Scott Robinson fans after the game, including this little kid who was about five years old, had this to say.

Terrible game. Yeah. Not great at all. Horrible. No good? No. No. Shit game.

That was on the news. No, no, no, no. Shit game. That was on the news last night no That was on the news Last night That was on the news So there you go He couldn't be filthier That little boy

He's like Even did the thing When you wave your hand away You're like How old is he? He's about five years old He's five years old With an amazing mullet too

Is he one of those Five year old kids Those hardened South Island kids They look like Forty five years old Yeah exactly Forty five years old What do you exactly. It acts 45 years old.

What do you think, Ben? What's your hot takes on it? Are we sacking them all? Oh, I hate that. I hate that the sack them all but I feel like there's got to be

some sort of changes being made. I guess that... What would you do? Okay, you're the head of the NZRU. What are you doing right now? I don't know.

I feel like Artie Sevier would be a good captain. I love Sam Cain but I feel like Artie Sevier maybe is the guy to, you know, it's a lot to put, or maybe co-captaincy.

Share it around. You just need a lot to put on my business. Of course Ben Boyce would come up with a co-captaincy. Why not? You know? Why doesn't everyone be captain?

Like playing the day trophy when you're nine years old. You get a turn now. Bowden, you get a turn this week. You'd be captain this week? You would be a shocking head of the NZRU.

Oh, you are. It's definitely not the job for me. What are you going to do? Oh, no, I'm going to make you run captain. Oh, we're like a year out from the World Cup. I reckon let's decide. Whatever it is, let's put the team in and let's just back them in. If you think someone like Roger Tuivasa-Shek is a player,

I'm not saying he's amazing, I reckon, but if he's going to be the guy at the World Cup, put him in now. Let's make a team now. Even if we lose a few more games, this is the team that we're going to go for at the World Cup. And I feel sorry for the team, too. You'd just want to stay off social media, wouldn't you? Yeah.

Just stay in your bubble. Keep positive. And you're right, Ben. Whatever we're doing next year in the World Cup, let's make the changes now. We'll stick with the team, stick with the squad, stick with the boys, and we support the lads. Yeah, support them. Football. Rugby.

It's just quickly If you're consistently Losing your car keys Well this man in the US Has an answer He's got a chip He's put a chip Inside his hand

He's got one of these Flash news Teslas So now he just goes up Holds his hand against The car And opens up How amazing is that Tossed about $600

To put the chip Inside his hand But he's got another one As well Yeah so basically For his house On the other side So he goes up now Left hand It cost him about $600 to put the chip inside his hand. But he's got another one as well. Yeah, so basically for his house on the other side. So he goes up now, left hand, opens the door of the house, right hand opens the thing, doesn't have to carry keys anywhere he goes.

It's all equal parts genius and frightening. Yeah, it's a little bit. That we're there. We're there now. He's actually doing it. I reckon we're just going to be all, you know, in five years' time, we're all just going to be cell phones. We'll all be cell phones. So if I want to communicate with Ben at his house, I'll just think about it,

and we'll be talking. We'll be talking, baby. There'll be a chip in us. Oh, so we're not using a cell phone. No, we'll just be a portable cell phone. You might be right. Yeah. Well, there you go.

This guy's already the first step on the way to that. If I want to FaceTime you with my eyeballs, I can just do it with my eyes. See whatever you're up to. Let's go. Jonah and Ben with five words for 5K. Stop any time to keep the cash. Thank you. Or play on to win more.

We do this every morning at 7.45, our Game of Word Association. You can win $5,000 matching all five words, but you can win cash along the way. It's up to you to decide when to stop or when to keep going. And we're on a crusade at the moment, a worthy cause

to put our names behind, and that is trying to get 5,000 likes on a post on our John Owen Ben Hits Breakfast Facebook page. And it's so, once we reach 5,000 likes from you,

the fine listeners of the hits, we're going to stay locked in the studio until we give away $5,000 likes from you, the fine listener to the hits, we're going to stay locked in the studio until we give away $5,000. So far, we're not at 5,000 likes. No. We're getting there slowly. Sometime before 2026

we might be doing this. Yeah, let's get Sir Carolyn on. Welcome, how are you? Hi, good thanks. Carolyn, where are you, mate? I am in Okato in Tadanaki. Oh, beautiful. What do you do there? I work at the preschool.

Oh. Sounds like a very rewarding job. Yeah, yep. It sounds like one of those jobs that you have to say it sounds like a rewarding job, you know? It might not be rewarding some days, but it does, like, you know, when you talk about firefighters, people who work for charities, you're like, that must be rewarding. Yeah. And I can relate. I know about wrangling people that are quite immature.

You know, I do that every day. He's referring to our producer, Joel. Yeah, that's right. Definitely wasn't referring to you, Joel. Yeah, all right, Carolyn. Who are you going to send into the soundproof booth and try and win 5K with? Ben, please.

He's heading on in. Let's see if your rewarding work, if we can reward you for it right now with 5k. You know how the game works, don't you? I sure do. All right, Carolyn, first words you think of when I say nerf. Oh, nerf gun. Nerf gun.

Chapel. Chapel, was it? Chapel, that's the one. Church. Beverly Hills. Ooh, Cop. Yeah, Cop. I mean, I had 90210 as well.

Yes. But that's not to say go with me. I don't know what he would be thinking. Ooh, yeah. But Cop, he loves Eddie Murphy. He loves Eddie Murphy Okay we'll stick with Cop He loves Eddie Murphy more than he loves Bill Cosby

I'll tell you that much Socks is the fourth word this morning Shoes And coming in fifth and final Pedal for you Carolyn Bike Bike you've done well In Taranaki this morning.

Okay. You've done really well. We'll get Ben out of the soundproof booth and try and win you $5,000 cash. Now, technically, if we have a winner before the 5,000 likes, Ben, does that quash the 5,000 likes on Facebook? Or is that campaign still running in the background? I don't know.

We've actually got ourselves in too deep. I don't know. Okay. Let's just try and give away $5,000 now and later. Yeah, we'll deal with that in the back end in the background. I don't know how it works. We've got ourselves in too deep. I don't know. Okay. Let's just try and give away $5,000 now and later. Yeah, we'll deal with that in the back end of the show. Carolyn, let's do it. Ben Boyce, here we go. Word one, $25.

Inspirational words. Have you got any of those for him, Carolyn? She's probably got five, but she can't say them to me. Win, win, win. Okay. Nerf. N-E-R. Okay. Okay. Nerf. N-E-R-F. Oh, a gun.

25 bucks there, Carolyn. Are we going to risk it all and head to 50? Yes, we are. We're risking it. Word two, $50. It all goes away if you don't match with Carolyn on this one. Chapel. I'm picking Carolyn's not a fan of cricket in the Chapel Hadley series,

the Australian New Zealand competition. The first thing that came. The radio silence might suggest your love of trans-Tasman cricket rivalry is not at the forefront. That was first in my mind, but I'm guessing let's go Chapel Church. Yahoo! You got $50 there, Caro. What are we going to do?

Are we going to try and get $100 and risk it all again? I can't remember what the third word was. I can tell you. It was Beverly Hills. Oh, I'm going to risk it. She's going for the Hyundai. Word three, $100. Beverly Hills.

Cop? Eddie Murphy? That was the first thing that popped into my head. I said he was one of your hero comics along with Bill Cosby. No, no. I do like Eddie Murphy, yes. 90210 was another guy. That's exactly the conversation Carol and me had. Okay, you've got $100 in the bank, Carolyn

You can make the leap up by $400 And walk away with $500 If he matches this next word What was the next word? Socks I'm going to take the $100 You're walking away? Yeah, I'm walking away

Are you walking away from $500? I'm going to walk away She's walking away? Yeah, I'm walking away. Are you walking away from 500? I'm going to walk away. She's walking away. All right, so socks is the word. What would you have said for socks? Feet? Jeez, Caroline. You must have something in your waters, Caroline.

You knew what was happening. You dipped out there on word four, but if you did get to word five and I said pedal, what would you have come back with? Pedal, pedal, bike. So four out of five, but you dipped out at the right time. Yeah, sweet. Cool. You and your $100 have a fantastic day and thank you for listening.

Great. Thank you, guys. And don't forget, head to our Facebook page and give our post a like if we get 5,000 likes. We're staying in the studio and giving away five grand. I know there's a crisis around at the moment, but we've got our own crisis. It's trying to get 5,000 likes. Head to the Hit's Breakfast Facebook page.

Jono and Ben, the bold and the beautiful. On their heads. Note, may not be beautiful. Now you might have seen the ads on TV or social media. For our show, we've got a whole lot of kids to come up with some ideas of the best way to advertise our radio show. How can we advertise our radio show on the hits?

We've got a billboard. What are we putting on it? Giant robots with laser beam eyes. Fairies. Lomo car. And a dragon. Words that will encourage people to listen. Like, please listen.

Yeah. Both of you getting mohawks. A lion, a tiger, a cheetah. These are rock solid ideas. Let's do it. Now, when kids come up with all these random ideas of, oh, let's have a pterodactyl riding a hamburger eating unicorn, we think

it's cute. You come up with that idea when you're an adult, you're locked away. Yeah, well, it's true. Now, we're also running a competition as well for our billboard, kind of like a colouring competition, but Design Our New Billboard. There was a whole lot of amazing entries, so thank you to everyone that entered. Joe, Eloise,

Charlie, Rebecca and Damien all win $100. Well done, guys. Well done. That's a good thing when you get kids to do stuff for you and you pilfer the minds, the creative minds of children as they don't know the legality surrounding intellectual property, do they? So we can just steal their ideas, take $100, there you go, good as gold. But the $500 winner is joining us on the phone right now.

Welcome to the program, the one and only winner of Jono and Ben's Colouring in Competition, Carson and Jimmy. Hi. Come and Jimmy. Hi. Come on down. How are you guys? I'm good. How are you? We're good. Yeah, right.

Now, one's nine, one's 11. Carson, you're nine. Jimmy, you're age 11. Yeah. And Mum, how old are you? Oh, I don't know if I can see that. Come clean. We're a transparent show here.

Now, you guys have been doing some great design work. We're looking for someone, as we said before, to come up with a new billboard idea. And you guys, very, very good effort. You put a bit of time into this. Thank you. It's great artwork. Like, I don't know why this company would pay

highfalutin advertising agencies to do this work when we've got it free here. There's one picture here. One of you guys is drawing a picture with someone with a broken arm and then someone saying, I love the hits because it can make anyone feel good. So even with a broken arm, this person's loving the hits. And the other one's got a whole lot of different animals and things singing along to the hits. You've got like a parrot singing along and all sorts.

A kiwifruit with headphones. I didn't even know kiwifruits had headphones, but they're doing this. So it looks incredible. Thank you. Thank you. And there's crabs on there as well. Even the crab is laughing. The crab's going ha-ha, having a great time listening to the hits.

The crab market has never been bigger for the hits. Just beautiful. Well, for your wonderful design efforts, Carson and Jimmy, we're going to give you the $500, okay? What? What? Yeah.

Both of them? Did you not know why we were calling? $250 each. If you want to split it up between you two, you've got $500 to spend. Oh, well, thank you so much. You're very welcome. Oh, good on you guys.

I feel like this is a big blindside. You weren't suspicious in any way While we got you on the radio? What are you going to spend 250 bucks on each? Probably something to do with soccer Oh good Good stuff Well that's your payment

For your billboard design work So thank you so much, kids. Thank you, guys. No worries. You have yourself a great day. And if you want to see their entries, we'll put them on the Hits Breakfast on Instagram on our story right now. Well done, Carson.

Well done, Jimmy. Have yourself a great day. Thank you. The Hits. For more podcasts from the Hits Network, check out iHeartRadio.co.nz.