Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL: Chris Hipkins Has Faith In The Warriors!

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

We connect a listener with the man who she needed to apologise to! Hayley Holt on her new book Tom Sainsbury! Chris Hipkins on why its the Warriors year. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Jono and Ben podcast. Thanks to Dilmar. It's making the world a better tea. Do try it. Ben Boyce, what a fun show. We're just fresh off the field of dreams. Yeah, it's really, I think, a really interesting podcast for anyone to listen to today.

A couple of people came on the show today and kind of told their story, opened up to us, which is really cool. Hayley Holt, broadcaster. She's got a tell-all book as well. And then we had a call from a guy who'd grown up in Glorival, which was pretty incredible. Yeah, he escaped Glorival.

His whole family is still in there. He managed to get past the gates, and he's just like, mate, YouTube. He was just the – I can imagine. He didn't tell us about YouTube inside there. He says YouTube has just been secretly listening

to the radio that hits radio at night and stuff like that so yeah it was pretty incredible that's one of those moments where

it's really cool to do this job when people can kind of share stories about themselves and open up he's doing well and yeah

Hayley Holt she was telling us how she was at Alcoholics Anonymous yeah her book she definitely like I read a good portion of it we had i only had it for a day or two before the interview but just just so you know like so many things she's put herself out there's such a brave thing to do yeah to put it all out there really is uh i wouldn't like i don't know if i

could do it in all honesty i just like especially moments you know she's had moments where she's she's blown out she's fully moments where she's blown out. She fully admits that she's done these things. And, you know, to not only go, oh, I've done that. I don't want to think about that again. But to put it in a book for everyone to read it, it's pretty incredible to try and help others. Yeah, it's a huge step.

So good on her for doing that. Now, if you were to write a book, I'm just typing into chat, GPT, the wonderful advanced technology. What would be the fun name for Ben's biography? It'd have to be a pun. It'd have to be a pun based on a few good Ben or something. Bending the rules.

Bending the rules is good. The Ben Boyce biography. Ben there, done there. Ben there, done there. Ben there, done there. These are all really good Bending hearts and minds The Ben voice

Chronicles The pundiful life of Ben voice Bending over backwards for laughter A pundiful biography I like the pundiful That's a really nice addition So we'll add that in there We haven't quite set on,

I like been there, done that. Been there, done that. A pundiful biography. No, I, I feel I have no place writing a book at any stage of my life.

But now that you've said that, I feel like, oh, I feel like maybe. I'm pretty sure that's how good books get written from a fun title. And you just work back from there. I'm pretty sure that's how they're done. Well,

you don't judge a book by its cover, maybe in my case you do been there done that ponderful biography we've also got chris hipkins the prime minister we throw some uh some hard hitting questions to him don't we and then we don't follow it up with uh a second question although today we did there was once i was like oh who's coming up you came back for a second question oh that was with the teachers thing yeah i know where's the negotiating table back i could tell where's the negotiating table at with the teachers and i could tell he was like don't ask me that and he kind of had to uh yeah because because normally what we do is we we're not we're not mike hosking we're not news talkers no we release books like uh called uh been there done that yeah wonderful biography uh but we so we'll ask a question every now and again.

We'll dip our toes into something, you know, where there is an important issue and we do need to ask him in front foot, a politician or whoever it is. But then they answer and then we move on.

But today, you doubled down. You went for a second question. I was like, oh, prior, who's this? Yeah, I tell it rattled him too. It rattled me. Yeah.

I was ready to move on. He was like, oh, hang on, he's still. It rattled the whole thing. Yeah, it didn't feel right following up with the digging questions. I was ready to move on. Oh, hang on. He's still. It rattled the whole thing. Yeah. It didn't feel right. Following up with the digging questions. It was good.

It was good. And to be honest, I don't know what I was going to do with the information if he did give it to me. I'd be like, oh yeah, okay. That sounds reasonable. You know? I'd be like, well, good, the more. I don't know where it's at.

Yeah. That's all on the podcast today. Enjoy. The Hits. The Jono and Ben podcast. Big teacher strike today. Secondary schools across the country. We closed the teachers stage another strike over paying conditions.

20,000 teachers off the job today. Not as big as the previous strike on March 16th, because obviously that was kindergartens and primary schools. What happens if they don't, they can't settle? Do they just keep striking? I don't know. Yeah, I guess. Do you end up going on a permanent strike?

I guess so. Yeah. Yeah, because obviously the one day is not quite doing what they want it to do. Not getting the impact. Yeah. Hopkins is like, it's a blip on the radar. Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

We got him on the show today. We should talk to him about it. He was the former education minister, wasn't he? His mum's tied up with the education ministry So surely she's in his ear Come on son Now Ben you've got a dog I've got a dog Yesterday my dog

First time I've ever seen Milo Drenched Like soaking wet And he'd managed to find himself In a bucket He put himself in a bucket that we had filled up that was washing some hats of the kids, and he came out soaking wet.

And I didn't realise how ugly dogs are soaking wet. He looks like a little rodent. They're a lot cuter with fluffier, cute hair, aren't they? No, you're right. Particularly my dog, Beau, big, fluffy, white dog, whenever he goes in the water, totally different. He actually, like, oh, he looks a lot skinnier and a lot sort of, you know, because he's got so much fluff all around him.

Yeah, I mean, well, your dog got fat shamed, didn't he, by a vet? He did, yeah. And I brought him back when he was wet, and I'm like, have a look at him now, mate. Skinny ass, mate. Skinny ass. I mean, there are animals that look good wet. Dolphins.

Yes. Whales. Yeah. Mermaids. Yeah. Yeah, I guess they all look good. They're fine. But hairier animals, you really see what they're...

I imagine there would be far less dogs purchased if they looked like they look when they're soaking wet. Yeah. I was like, ooh, what is this thing? Probably a very good theory. I think other people's dog, I think your dog's always way cuter to you than it is to other people too.

That's the other thing I've noticed as well. Your dog, you can put up with a lot more. Like kids. Yeah, probably exactly the same as kids. Every other person's kids are a pain in the ear. You're right, you're like, oh, they're cute. They're just like, whatever. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.

The Hits is sending Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits is sending you to see Pink in London. Amazing competition this, seeing Pink live in Hyde Park in London, accommodation flights, spending money, and, of course, Pink in Hyde Park. They've got Pink in the park. We have Christmas in the park. I don't want to say who's winning, but I tell you what, the runners-up from X Factor 2014, they can put on a hell of a park. I don't want to say who's winning, but I tell you what, the runners-up from X-Factor 2014, they can put on a hell of a show.

Get Bree on. Showy from Auckland. How are you? Hi there. You're a nurse on your way to work. I am. What is the grimmest thing you've had to deal with as a nurse?

A nurse? Well, I've only been on the job for about a month so far. Probably a few wounds. Nothing too grim as yet, thankfully. Yeah, we did speak to a doctor and she says just the amount of stuff she has to remove from bodies. Objects and things. Yeah, I definitely know emergency departments see a lot.

Yeah, they do. Well, you're doing God's work. You really are out there, Bree. And you're in the drawer, potentially, if you get the question right, to go and see Pink. Can you get some annual leave if you just started? Say that again, sorry? Are you able to get annual leave if you just started your job?

I'm sure my boss could make some allowances. Okay. Well, here is the song. You need to tell us what it is. The name of the song that we always seem to play in the hook. What is the name of that song? Is it called Reasons? No.

Is it called... Is it a little bit enough? No, not a little bit enough either. Learn to love again? No, not learn to love again. Go right back to the start of where it was. You were almost there. Just give me a reason.

Oh, just give me a reason. Just give me a reason. We nearly recited the lyrics to all songs, all verses. You got there in the end. About ten times, so thank you. Oh, mate, that's what we do on this show. There are no losers on this show. I wish there were more,

but these two, Producer Joel and Ben, they want everyone to win. Otherwise, just pointless. Just like, get Brionne. Well done, you're in the draw. Just move on. Yeah, well, well done. You're in the draw.

All the very best for that. Have a great day at work, mate. Lovely to hear from you. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.

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The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits, the Jono and Ben Podcast. That savings course happening on Sunday, don't forget about that. It sneaks up on you, doesn't it? I don't know why we do it. Clock's back. Also, it does feel like you're getting an extra bit of sleep, doesn't it? That's the daylight. You lose that daylight.

That's a bit of a shame. Everything's dark when you get up in the morning and dark when you get up. I can't figure out how to change my car clock, so thankfully it's going to get back in sync. I've been running running an hour difference to everyone else now yesterday we were talking about the the iconic Michelangelo statue statue of David which caused a bit of controversy in America where they studied it in class in an art class and one of the parents complained about their kids learning about it and seeing the you know the

appendage on statue of David and the principal lost his job over there in the States. And you commented on the fact that David wasn't looking peak physical condition downstairs. Upstairs, he's buff. Downstairs, not so much. Yeah, I'm looking at the statue. It is a remarkable statue. To think when it was chiseled and how it was made.

Remarkable. Just the fine detail i mean even you look at the hair um how's michelangelo doing that how did he chisel in that hair there it was pretty incredible but yeah but i was doing a bit more digging this morning and uh back in it seems like back in ancient greece uh in particular, which maybe leads to know why the area was so kind of, you know. It felt like the air con was on 17. So in ancient Greece back in the day, the ideal body type was different to what it was today.

It goes back as far as like 1400 BC, saying that the ideal body type in this thing was gleaming chest, bright skin. He's got one of those. Broad shoulders. Yeah, they're broad. They're nice. Tiny tongue.

We can't see the tiny tongue. Strong buttocks and a little. Let's go back to those days. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. I mean, we're way too late. I mean, a legend. I mean, you know, we maybe need to hit the gym a wee bit more.

Yeah, apart from the gleaming skin-tight buttocks and all the other stuff. But according to, yeah, this is back in ancient Greece. It was far, far more prestigious to have that than the other way around. So I'm like, well, there you go. We did the tide too. I know. Poor David at some stage. You're like, oh, great, I'm looking great.

Then later on everyone's like, no, sorry, mate. Things have changed. Yeah, no wonder he's so happy to waltz around in the nud back then. Oh, it makes a lot of sense now. Well, thank you for putting that one to bed. Before 7 o'clock. And apologies to David for shaming him as well. Because, you know, if we talk about the era, the time, you know,

it's like people cancelling stuff from 22 years ago. Back then, that was the time. That was appropriate. So we should say, David, what a battler. It was looking great. Now you may have seen this on the internet over the last couple of days. The Pope in a very fashionable white puffer jacket. Well, because, yeah, the Pope, or all the

Popes, they, white is their colour of choice and skin. Kind of like the Backstreet Boys in some regards. The white clothing. And cricketers. Cricketers love their white clothing, don't they? They do. Nightmare for red wine because, you know, they do feed the blood of Christ.

You'd think, oh, jeez, getting some wine on those white robes. But I have seen the pope, and it's a big puffer jacket too, one that goes down to his ankles. He's looking he does look like the the extra member of the Backstreet Boys been you dead right very fashionable got a big sort of necklace with a with a cross outside of the white puffer jacket it's been going around the internet everyone's been like oh the Pope's style she's got great fashion sense uh but it's turned out that that image was actually artificially generated. It's AI. It's generated an image of the Pope and it's actually a fake. So just to prove

the artificial technology is so good, they've faked us all, tricked us all with the very trendy picture of the Pope. Now, if I had that technology at my fingertips, I'm putting your face onto, you know, some shocking

stuff. Yeah, you're right. You know what I'm going to do. Yeah. I'm not thinking, oh, let's put the Pope in a puffer jacket. This will go gangbusters. No, but it's quite a nice play because they haven't gone too wild with it, you're right. Because you can slap your, you know, the face of

your favourite actor, musician, politician, you can slap your you know the face of your favorite actor musician politician you can put their faces on anything and i don't need to spell out what people are doing yeah you know with this techn dastardly stuff you know and it looks so real it does that you can go i could have ben boys canoodling Canoodling in an office With Name someone Who do you want to canoodle with Because I can make it happen Tell me

Okay If it was another life You're a single person You're up for a canoodle There's no I'm not No Okay

I'll just say Debbie from Accounts Because you're always talking about her So I could put your face on Debbie from Accounts And Make this crazy movie and it's insane it's going to cause a lot of well i suppose people will phone them and go is this you and they'll go no yeah but then a great excuse to go oh it's artificial you like the you know i can't prove it either way yeah so the pipe well actually put it up and you know it's great it's available for uh the age limit is nine years old. Nine years old for this technology.

We'll put the photo up on the Hits Breakfast on our story of the Pope if you haven't seen it. But before 7 o'clock, Dilmar dates $100 and a Dilmar tea prize pack could be yours if you're celebrating a special day today. Give us a text 4487 on the Hits. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. If you're having a big day today, no matter what you're celebrating, Jono and Ben podcast If you're having a big day today No matter what you're celebrating Jono and Ben, celebrate your special

Date with Dilmar You can win $100 And also a Dilmar prize pack, Ben We do like to reflect on stuff That has happened Elle Macpherson, she's having a birthday Today, the Australian model Now she made a mint off

Selling underwear, didn't she? Not her own underwear, not like a, it's her birthday today, is it? Australian model. Now, she made a mint off selling underwear, didn't she? Not her own underwear. Not like a, well, it was her own line of underwear. She wasn't like on OnlyFans. Pocking off undies like I do, if you ever want to purchase any. Jono Pryor, OnlyFans. Undie guy, I'm called. My sister, she used to work at a restaurant up north in Russell.

And she had Elle McPherson come into the restaurant. And I was like, well, did you get things? She goes, I got her to sign something. And I was like, what did you get her to sign? She's like, the receipt, the bill. I was like, well, that's what I have to do with you. So you didn't read, you know, but she was like, no, it's a signature on the. But did she have to sign for the credit card?

That's what I was like. It was like a credit card signature. She was like, no, she signed the receipt. That's what she decided. So I was like, meh. She's done really well for herself. I mean, you got David Beckham to sign. Oh, who did you get to sign?

Dan Carter signed some underpants for you. Yes, yes, it did. Jockey underpants. Yes, his underpants. Now, your sister could have taken off her underpants. And gone, sorry, I know I'm in the middle of entrees, but if you could just whip your name on these bad boys, thanks. Signed underpants. Also, we need to say in the middle of entrees, but if you could just whip your name on these bad boys, thanks.

Also, we need to say happy birthday to Lucy Lawless, New Zealand actor who's made it big in Hollywood. Yeah, and we spoke to her about how she was voted one of the most beautiful people in the world. Remember that? And 50 of the most beautiful people in the world. Were you named one of them? Oh, I was one. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Fell off, fell off. That's right fell off fell off that

what happens when that happens do you get a heads up you're like hey you're you're close to the top 50 here you know yeah yeah yeah yeah a bit more moisturizer in your regime you might make top 40. oh she's a lovely lady she's very down to earth Isn't she She is I call her the earthworm Because she's so down to earth And she Kiwi legend too I mean Xena was Such a huge show A national treasure

She's up there with Charming people With our innocent accent And chopping down tall poppies That's how much we love Lucy Lawless At home today Happy 24th birthday To Sam Manson

Have a great day From Hayden Happy birthday Holly. Have a great day from Hayden. Happy birthday, Holly V. Have a wonderful day, Holly V. Suspiciously just going with one letter as the surname. Happy anniversary to Johan and Pauline today. It's the first day on the job for Gerard today. Whatever you're doing, Gerard, do it well.

Happy anniversary and birthday to Fred Townsend today. The doubleheader. Lots of love from Rochelle. And Donella, you're on the phone. Hi. I don't need to tell you that you're on the phone. You know that. Well, I hope I am.

How's Reparoa this morning? All right? Yeah, pretty good. It's pretty nippy, about seven degrees. I'll tell you what, it's nippy up here too. I said before, Jack Frost was playing with them. They've been tweaking them, saying I'm on my way. What's happened today?

Is it your birthday today? It is. Oh, happy birthday. Congratulations. Thank you. And we understand a massive milestone as well. Yes, five years cancer free. Oh, good on you.

Oh, that's awesome. Knocking that on their head. It's a bastard, isn't it, the cancer? Yeah. Oh, it certainly is. I've got a friend going through it at the moment. Sad. It's really so sad.

And why is there not a cure? I know. I know. We can track people with vaccinations, can't we? Yeah, fair. Well, Tonala, you have yourself a great birthday today. We're going to give you $100 in a Dilmar tea price pack. Oh, wonderful.

Yeah, I love my tea, so that's fantastic. Good on you, Donnelly. Go and have a wonderful birthday. Really appreciate it. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Now, Hayley Holt, broadcaster. She's got a new book. It's called Second Chances Out at the moment.

A really, really fascinating book. She's dealing with everything from her issues with alcohol around uh losing a baby and also her relationship with richie mccoy and she joins us in the studio right now hayley holt good morning great to have you here that's so good to be here and we've got uh your little son raven as well who is just bloody gorgeous he might not say good say hello but he touched the mic oh get him out of the studio then mate no good for radio

no content super cute yeah yeah he's pretty cute he melts hearts are you enjoying this period in your life it's the best

I mean you guys are both fathers yourself so I mean you know it's hard but it's just you can't describe it it's like

it's the most the biggest love you can ever feel. Although last night, for the first night, in months and months and months, he only woke up once. Oh, wow. So that's huge. Usually it's about four times a night. And when they don't wake up, once you wake up, go, what's happened? You know?

Oh my God. When he was a newborn, he did, he slept through the night once. And I woke up with my, excuse me, but my boobs were engorged, and I was just like panicking, and I looked over at him, and he's just. Well, mine's still engorged, actually, to be honest. Your boobs. Yeah. Hey, now, Hayley, your book out at the moment, Second Chances,

what's it like? It must be, you know, such a personal book you deal with so much in there, you know, what's it like to have your story out there in the world? It was terrifying. I was so nervous. I guess I was a little bit anxious about how it would be received. The reason that people would warm to it so much is because you're being so vulnerable. A lot of people wouldn't have the guts to put all of what you've put in that book

and write that in paper and release it to the public. Dear God, the stuff I've done, I'm never putting it in a book yeah i would read your book obviously you know you talk about your demons with alcohol and your loss as well and i don't want to you know bring it all up for you again because it's all in the book but yeah as john said it must be for people even people like we're knowing you for a while but to not to know the extent of what you were dealing with yeah i mean you could you hide it all don't you for a while, but not to know the extent of what you were dealing with. Yeah, I mean, because you hide it all, don't you? And a lot of it is you don't really realise what's going on until you look back on it and process it. I mean, when I was drinking, I thought it was a great laugh.

My family didn't, and some of my friends didn't. And, you know, I think a lot of people in circles were a little bit afraid when I turned up to a party. They were like, oh my God, how is he? Hurricane hot. And so what was the, because they do say before you do stop drinking, there's a moment where you're like, I need to really sort it out. What was it for you? I had many of those moments with myself, but it was when I was at a party with my cousin who was quite sick herself. And I sort of was encouraging her to have a beer.

Come on, we don't get together much. You know, this would be a great laugh. And then the next morning I saw just how sick and how much it had affected her because she was physically sick with it too. And I just hated myself. I was like, I'm not just hurting myself or annoying my mum or getting kicked out of bars. Now I'm actually making my family sick.

And so did you go to AA or anything like that? I did. I took two months off because that's what I said. And then at the end of that, I had another really good friend who had gone into AA and I just decided to follow her and it was the best thing I've ever done what about people in your life like were they rushing to see a cop and go oh what's what's Hayley got what stories you know what things because I would

imagine that like Jono's bringing out a book I'm like what's she saying about me what's gonna geez I imagine Richie was sweating bullets was he yeah I mean obviously Richie McCaw is mentioned in there and what is your partner Your current partner Right now Do you have to run All that past him I mean he didn't Really want to have

Anything to do with it But Yeah I And then I Passed You know I Gave Richie his

His Signed copy I meant to Dear Richie All the best Reach for the stars buddy I gave him his pages Just to make sure

He was going to be okay Oh that's good Yeah And he basically came back And just said Yeah yeah Your recollection seems to be right And you're damn brave

And I was like Oh god Yeah Is it that bad And I mean Because You are brave Of what you're doing

Putting yourself out there Because it's never easy And you know this job You do put yourself out there. But you kind of hold back from a lot of things. You do. And you've kind of, as John has said before, you put it all out there, which is awesome. But I think you've got to do that in life because people don't, as you say.

And the greatest help I've ever had was when I've been in AA and people share. You know, they're deepest, darkest. And that really helps you to feel less alone. So I guess if people are out there and they're going through similar things, then they can sort of feel like we're all in it together. And, you know, addiction like that or, you know, leniency on alcohol, it doesn't discriminate. Any section of society, any job, high paid, low paid, whatever, the spectrum is broad. So I think you're going to help a lot of people by doing

what you're doing. Yeah, absolutely. And while it is, you know, like I've read as much as I can over the last couple of days. How much did you read? Quite a lot. Did you get to your bit? I did see my bit there. I scanned through it. That's coming up. I was jumping around all over the place as well. I definitely went to the Richard McCourt chapter.

Boys, boys, boys, boys. Always nice to see you. Congratulations on the book. It's awesome. As Jono said, I think you're going to help a lot of people. So you're well done. Thank you very much. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Now, a lady, this is an incredible, incredible story.

Out of South Korea, a lady went to take her driver's license, her first written test, in 2005. 2005. She didn't succeed. She didn't succeed. She didn't succeed. It happens. I mean, you've- I failed two times on my way to get my restricted, yeah.

She tried it again the next day. Went back in the next day. Failed again. She turned it into- Basically, every day, five days a week for three years, she went in to try and take the written part of the test. Didn't pass. Every day?

Every day. Surely at some point you go, maybe it's not for me. Then she reduced it to twice a week. Twice a week, I could take the test didn't pass. Every day? Every day. Surely at some point you go, maybe it's not for me. Then she reduced it to twice a week. Twice a week going to take the test. And she has done now, on her 960th, well, basically attempts, she's finally got her full license. So 860 written tests until she finally got it. And then after she passed the written, she obviously had to do the practical test.

Took 100 tests to do the practical test to pass. But 960 attempts later this week, she has finally passed her driver's license. Dear God, do you want her on the road? Life has taken that. Yeah. Wow. $21,000 they reckon she would have spent on trying to get a license. That's in New Zealand money.

You know if that was in New Zealand, whoever that person is would just be driving. There'd be no, you know, and then they get pulled over 15 years later. They'll be like, what's your problem? I've been doing it for 15 years. They get angry at the police. Yeah, it was her goal to have a licence.

She wanted to drive for a vegetable selling business that she does. And when she finally passed, all the driving instructors, they cheered, they brought her flowers and to congratulate her. They're like, hey. that she does. And when she finally passed, all the driving instructors, they cheered, they brought her flowers in to congratulate her. They're like, hey.

So it was a really happy moment, but you're right. Then she reversed into a lamppost. Probably did. Thanks, guys. See you later. Even Hyundai gave her a new car, a brand new car in South Korea

for passing a test. So I hope that's insured. Pretty, pretty amazing story. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Now someone got in touch with the show. Her name was Sylvia. Last week actually. Yeah. She had, we'll get some dramatic

music to sell this up. It was a minor skirmish on the roads. On a motorway of mishaps. Yeah. A bit of on-ramp rampage. Sylvia, she had a sleepless night. She made a mistake on the road, as we all do. And she phoned us on Friday.

Yeah, yeah, I'm doing fine. So what you've done is when merging onto the motorway, you've cut someone off when merging on. Jeez, I tell you what, on my scale of stuff I've done on the road, this is at the lighter end of the scale. I thought that's what you do when you're travelling around busy streets, just cut people off, honk, don't let people in. That's how we drive in New Zealand.

But you feel so guilty that you didn't let someone in. Yes, I mean, this is supposed to be the good etiquette of driving. You should have a sense of being considerate, that you should let someone go through. This is playing on your mind and you want to apologise to the driver that you didn't let in, you didn't let merge. This is adorable.

That is adorable. You didn't cause an accident, it's something you genuinely did. No, it's not. But I just, you know. We need to track this driver down for you. We need to put this issue to bed. You need to get this off your chest. You need to.

What was the car that you cut off? That's the thing. I was so embarrassed. I turned left and I look at him in the window and he just keeps shaking his head. So I was too embarrassed, actually. I know that he's driving his black car. It's a ute. Was it like a Toyota Hilux, or was it something else?

Okay, so after a black ute, he wasn't angry. He was just shaking his head going, uh-oh, you didn't let me in. He was shaking his head, and then I think he just mumbled something to himself. He might have been going, she's a good driver. He might have been shaking his head and then I think he just mumbled something to himself. He might have been going, she's a good driver. That's what, he might have been shaking his head going, I wish I was as good as her. He is probably thinking, oh, he's about to move.

When I cut in front of him, he's probably thinking, oh, well done. What a great job. Yeah, exactly. Next, we think we've tracked down The person involved The other driver Of the vehicle And we're going to put them Together on the radio next She's a beautiful woman

Sylvia isn't she It's what it's like To have a conscience Ben Yeah Oh no So hopefully we can make Sylvia Feel a little better next It is the hits

The hits The Jono and Ben podcast Now Sylvia got in touch With the show last week She was lovely Sylvia She's so sweet And she was feeling Really bad about an incident that happened on the road where she cut someone off accidentally there was actually no accident going on but she just felt terrible the person was driving a black ute she didn't move like a zip she didn't move like there was

a kink in the zip and uh there was a bit of a honk there was a wave and she had a restless night last thursday night phoned us friday morning uh and we put it we put it out to the ether we And there was a bit of a honk, there was a wave, and she had a restless night last Thursday night. Phoned us Friday morning. And we put it out to the ether. We tried to track down the gentleman. Black Ute, we understand, Barry's Point Road, around quarter to five, last Thursday. And Dave is with New Zealand's Breakfast. Good to be here, fellas.

Now, tell us how you heard about this. It's modern technology. Yeah, so I didn't hear it when you first mentioned it on the show, but a mate of mine reached out to me, he heard it. He knows I drive along that road twice a day, I work on Berries Point Road, and he knows I have a tendency to occasionally maybe get a little bit angry. So I thought maybe that could be me. So I listened to your boys' podcast.

And as I heard the story, I thought, yeah, no, I think that's me. I've got to reach out here. I love it how I call it modern technology. It's not modern technology. It's just your friend who listens to old technology, the radio. He called him on old technology. He's been around for a while. Podcasts, he's been here for a while. Yeah, but hey, it's great.

We've connected through technology, haven't we? And you've got back in touch with us because we did speak to Sylvia the other day and she was very upset about what happened on the road. And we thought, well, maybe there's an opportunity to connect the two of you together. Yeah, I thought about coming on here and just absolutely tearing her a new one just for a laugh, but I didn't think that would be too polite. So I just want to let you know, coming on here and just absolutely tearing her a new one just for a laugh, but I didn't think that would be too polite, so I just want to let her know that there was absolutely

no hard feelings. Oh, good. Well, that's cool, and I'm glad you say that, because she's so sweet and lovely, you know. She is sweet and lovely, but maybe here's an idea. No, no, no. Do we start off tearing her a new one? No.

And then it was like, ah, it's a joke. I don't know. Well, it's obviously lovely. She is lovely. We couldn't do that. Do that to me. That's fine.. I don't know. Well, it's obviously lovely. She is lovely. We couldn't do that to her. Yeah, do that to me. That's fine. The old me would have.

Yeah, you're right. We'll go through, Dave. She did mention that you were shaking your head and muttering to yourself. What were you saying to yourself, Dave? Well, I don't know what's called just answers in life, but I probably can't say it here, can I? It happens. Maybe a few unsuitable words was said.

But no harm was done at the end of the day, you know. Yeah. So you couldn't get a more modern. I'd pretty much forgotten about it within two minutes. So, yeah, no, there were no qualms on my end at all. Oh, there she is. Hello, Sylvia. Hi, hi. How are you? We're good. It's Jon Oh, there she is. Hello, Sylvia. Hi, hi.

How are you? We're good. It's Jono and Ben calling from the Hits. Hi, Jon. Nice to talk to you again. How are you doing? Yes, I'm good, thanks. Wait, do you remember talking to us?

Yes, I do, and embarrassing. It's not embarrassing. Well, it's embarrassing to be on our show, I get that. But what you did was... You think you're embarrassed? Imagine being the stars of it. Yeah. Well, someone's got in touch with us who thinks they may have been the person in the black

ute that day driving along Barry's Point Road. Oh, wow. Okay. Now, I must warn you, he's not happy. And he's going, yeah. No. Okay. Prepare yourself. Sylvia, this is sylvia this is

dave dave sylvia oh hi hi dave hi sylvia how's it going hi hi how are you um yeah i really want to apologize on that day um for stopping just right in front of you i I was, yeah, I don't know what was I thinking. But yeah, again, I'm sorry for that. Sylvia, that's so lovely of you. It's so lovely for you to apologise. Honestly, don't worry about it at all. I know, Sylvia, there's absolutely no hard feelings. No worries at all.

I'd forgotten about it as soon as it happened. So seriously, but you're so lovely for wanting to apologise. But no, no worries at all. I'd forgotten about it as soon as it happened. So seriously, but you're so lovely for wanting to apologize. But no, no worries at all. Oh, that's lovely. You don't need to worry about it anymore, Sylvia. You don't need to worry. I feel relieved now. Thank you.

Thanks a lot. I didn't realize that you guys actually managed to find Dave. Well, yeah, someone got in touch with him, a friend of his that was listening to the show and thought it might have been him. And I think we've managed to connect the two of you up and make things okay. So we didn't want you going away worried about that because there was no accident cause. So hopefully you feel better. Yes, yes, I do feel a lot better.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks a lot for this. Has it been weighing on your mind, Sylvia? Just for a few days and after that I'm good. She forgot about it and then we brought her back up again. No, no. All good now. All good. Oh, you're

wonderful, Sylvia. And thank you, Dave, for getting in touch with us. We really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you a lot. Yeah, no worries. I'll see you on Barry's Point Road, Sylvia. Can't wait. You can wave and honk at each other now. Watch out. Watch out. Watch out.

It's not going to be me. Thanks, guys. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Hits. Five words with challenge. Match five words to win five $500 challenge gift cards. Yeah, $500 is what you could win if you match four words, but if you want to risk it all for the fifth word,

you can win five times 500 challenge petrol fuel station vouchers. And I think I said that not quite in the right order, but you get the drift. It kind of just sounded like a lot of words together that if we edit them correctly and then send that to Challenge, they'll be like, he said what we wanted him to say. Just not in the right order. Julie, you're on in Cambridge. Welcome.

Hi there, guys. What are we, straddling a horse, rowing a boat? What are we doing at the moment? Sitting outside the office waiting to go to work. Doing neither of the two. All right. A lot of boat racing there, isn't there? And a lot of horses in Cambridge.

Beautiful little town. Now, Julie, some high-octane winning about to happen. Well, some unleaded 1991 winning about to happen thanks to Challenge. Who would you like to send into the soundproof booth? Ben, please. Okay, Ben, boys. Now, Julie, you tell us about yourself. What's your five-year plan?

Have a holiday. Yep. Sell our house. Okay, just exist. Do some stuff. Yep. Right our house. Okay, just exist. Do some stuff. Yep. Right now, win some free petrol. Let's get into your five-minute plan, shall we?

First word. The Julie. The sweet, sweet, sweet Julie from Cambridge says, when I mention pantry. Food. Food. Food. Solar is word number two for you, Julie. Sorry, that word was wrong? Food Food Solar is word number two for you Julie Sorry that word

Solar S-O-L-A-R Solar S-O-L-A-R Panel Solar power Choir Coming in at number

Did you say solar power? No panel Oh panel Hang on hang on Um Power Power No, panel. Oh, panel. Hang on, hang on. Power. Power, all right.

Choir, word number three, Julie. Choir, C-H-O-I-R. Choir. Julie? Yeah, I'm thinking singers or church. Singers. Singers. Titanic. Number four?

No, boat. Boat and southern. The fifth and final word for Julie this morning in Cambridge. Southern. Southern. Southern. Alps. Southern Alps.

Those are your five words. They were some toughies, Julie, to navigate through this morning, weren't they? Yeah, I reckon. They were. They were a bit difficult. Ben, welcome back. It's great to have you. Oh, good to be back.

Live from 1.5 metres away, across the desk from me right now, trying to win Julie cash and or petrol thanks to Challenge. Word one, $25 cash. Let's see if you match up with Jules on this one. Pantry. Kitchen? No. No, I said let's see if we match.

And you do. Oh, covered. Julie, we are out at the start line. It was food. Oh, food. Makes sense. Pantry. Food.

I'm sorry, Jules. I let you down, Julie. I'm sorry. Oh, never mind. Yeah, she's not angry. She's disappointed. Disappointed. You can hear it in her voice.

So we'll go through the remaining four. Solar. Power. Choir. Oh, sing. Singers. Solar. Power. Choir. Sing. Singers. Titanic. Ship.

Southern. Alps. Two out of five. Jules. Not quite good today. Not good enough today. I'm sorry, Julie. But another chance to play tomorrow.

Okay. Will you be back, Julie? I feel like we've lost Julie. Yeah. Okay, see ya. Bye. She's definitely not coming back. Julie? I feel like we've lost Julie. Yeah. Okay, see you. Bye. She's definitely not coming back. Well done, Ben.

Lost a good one. We lose some good ones along the way. I gave my best shot. That's what happens when you play five words. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Teacher's strike, of course, going on with secondary schools around the country. And speaking of all things schooling, we went and did the kids' parent-teacher interviews this week. And, you know, going into a school, I don't know what it is.

About going into a school, you suddenly feel like a child again. You know? When you talk to a teacher is one of those professions, and police officers actually, that no matter how old you are, you still feel like a child, don't you? Actually, I'm talking to a cop the other day, pulled me over. He could have been on TikTok, you know? Yeah, but that's what i thought with the teacher i'm like you go in there because i'll go and i'm outside i'm like at school you're like tuck him in shirt you make sure things all

like head off all the things that my my dad as a principal would say no hats inside mate you'll never wear a hat you know all those things but then you go inside you're like this teacher's so i mean i'm so much older than this teacher but you still had the fear of going in and being told off in a school situation. I don't know what it is. Well, you spent many years at a school. You lived at a school, too. Yeah.

We'll talk about that after 8 o'clock, actually. Yeah. You lived at a school. Now, I know how much fun I had at school when I was there. How much more fun was it not being able to leave school? Not being able... Yeah, you're right. Does the playground become more exciting when you're by yourself?

When you're by yourself, you're some sort of loser Sort of hanging out by yourself at school I had a shocker at the parent, Poppy had a parent teacher meeting With her lovely teacher And she was reading out a story to me And my mind wanders And I got the beginning of the story And she was trying to describe a character from somewhere

And then I'd lost details And then I'd pulled back and then the teacher's like who do you think she's talking about who do you think she's writing about i hate when they put it back on you i'm just here to it's not my interview yeah and uh did you get it right no i said are you talking about our dog milo and she's like what my dog no she was writing about Hagrid from a book maybe you needed to stay back in class I took a stab but it didn't pay off well yeah I had the other occasion when one of the girls were younger and we used to get given you know a lot of clothes from Hellenstein brothers and they had the absent logo was one of the big clothing brands one of their brands and she'd drawn me, Andy had drawn the family

and my t-shirt said absent. The absent father. Yeah, I was like, oh, that makes me look like the absent dad in the school picture. It's trying to explain to the teacher,

oh, that's a clothing brand. Where? And they're like, yeah, sure, whatever, buddy. Whatever, buddy. You got somewhere to be with your mistress? The Hits,

the Jono and Ben podcast. It's a big teacher strike around the country today. 20,000 teachers striking in secondary schools. Not as big as the last one because that was primary, kindergarten, and then intermediate, but a big one as well. Actually, we'll ask Chris Hippens pretty shortly what's going on there, and maybe they can try and sort it all out.

Imagine if you, Ben Boyce, you hit him up and you're like, just give them what they want, and he's like, all right, I will. And you solve the teachers. That's pretty nice, isn't it? Yeah, that's not going to happen. No, it's probably not going to happen. It would be amazing if it did. Because you do have a background in education.

You know, your dad, your mum, both teachers. Yeah, I met at Teachers College, the two of them. Both, yeah, my dad ended up being a principal and we lived at the school. I grew up at School of Master and lived at the school grounds. Yeah, the school of hard knocks. Made him the man he is. So we're just talking about this before 8 o'clock. Now, in all honesty, empty school grounds,

it's a Sunday afternoon. What's going through your mind? Oh, because, I mean, you did, when you had people over, it was a cool place to go, you know, because you had all access to, you know, the playground, the tennis courts, you know, if you wanted to. Everything you see, my son.

Everything the light touches. It know, if you wanted to. Everything you see myself. Everything the lake touches. It could all be yours one day. But when you're by yourself, like I would, you know, play outside with sports balls or ride my bikes over the judder bars and things like that. But when you weren't, I used to get freaked out walking through, you know, at the corridors and the classes and stuff by yourself. That was a really eerie feeling as well.

You're like, ooh, you know, like I used to be very scared, very frightened as a kid through that. You're almost like a boarder, a school boarder, whose parents didn't love him enough to bring him home on the weekends. Yeah, we're going to go, hello. What happened to Lonely Ben? Oh, he's still here. My dad, he was in the Air Force, John Pryor. So was my uncle.

Rich history of the Air Force. Much like your family with education, they were the Air Force and I've really let the team down. Haven't you, Jess? Yeah, no. So he was a squadron leader. He had the whole damn squad, mate. Squad was lit AF. Squad goals. But we grew up on the Air Force base out at Whenua Pai.

And rich... Like, it was before I was five and you know your memories before you're five You're like Have I just imagined That whole chapter Of my life up Yeah

Because I remember They had a Military style Flying fox Oh wow Yeah I can remember that And I can also remember Not many health and safety rules

And I was I was able to go on Oh Yeah And great scroggin too Nuts You know Name a healthy fruit And Pret pretend it's covered in chocolate

and that is a chocolate-covered raisins, chocolate-covered apricots. They're really into their scroggin. Okay. They love their scroggin in the Air Force. There wasn't much scroggin-based eating in Top Gun, was there? No. Maybe they cut out those scenes. And just so you know, in case you are wondering,

the New Zealand Air Force is exactly like Top Gun, except our plane breaks down every now and then. And they're munching away on Scroggins. You didn't see Tom Cruise on a flying fox, did you? Alpy Air Force. Eating a Scroggin? No. So we want to know this morning, 0800 the hits, 4487.

That's where we grew up. Where's the unusual place that you may have grown up? Yeah, text 4487. Did you just say that? No. No. No, I didn't. Well, I did.

Well, good. Did you say 0800 the hits? No. Okay, 0800 the hits, telephone number. That's the text as well. Give us a call this morning. It is the hits. The hits.

The Jono and Ben podcast. Where was the unusual place that you grew up, that you were brought up in through your childhood? And Enoch joins us right now. Good morning. How are you? Yeah, good, thank you. Now we're learning.

We're doing well. We're doing well. Thank you for asking. Not many do, do they? No, it's not. Well, good people ask that. Yeah, and you're one of the good ones. Now, Enoch, we're learning stuff about you.

We want to know where you grew up. I'm originally from Glorivale, Enoch Law being a biblical name, and I left just over 8 years ago at 15 and recently moved up to the Canterbury coast in the North Island to a good man of mine lives up there that's helped me out over the years. So hold on, you're saying you came out of Gloria Vale 8 years ago? Yep. Oh my gosh. So hold on, you're saying you came out of Gloria Vale eight years ago? Yeah Oh my gosh, now when you emerge from somewhere like that What's the first thing that you engaged with in, I guess I could say, the outside world

That really surprised you? Oh, just better living, you know, you've got more freedom Well, you've got freedom for one Right, so how much did you know about?'ve got more freedom. Well, you've got freedom for once. Right, so how much did you know about? Like, is that a dumb question? Like, did you know a lot? I sort of just sort of made a bit of a guesswork in it, but one of the main reasons I left was to be a singer one day.

I'm a singer? Oh, that's cool. You left Glory Vale to pursue your Your dream of Becoming a singer Yeah one day I'll get there Yeah can we hear A couple of bars

Oh Oh Fuck You got me on the Side of you guys No that's alright You don't have to do that It's alright

It's not New Zealand Idol It's not the X Factor Yeah we can't put you through So that's okay You can save it to you You know In front of people More important people than us.

Yeah. No, I love the Hits. It's one of my favourite stations to listen to. I'm listening to the radio secretly in Glorivale with one of my brothers, and the Hits was always the go-to. Oh, so would you secretly listen to the hits inside Glorivale? Well, yeah. That was the main station because that was the one to go to.

Bloody hell, we'll get our ratings out to Gloria Vale. Get the Gloria Vale numbers through the roof. The station on the coast is 93.1. Tune in, tune in to 93.1. The hits has never sounded cooler, like the secret little thing that people have to listen to. This is great. This is great for us.

Did you have the internet in Sog Glory, though? No, as some people did, but us young fellas didn't because we no longer had phones in there or laptops or anything. The internet must have blown your marbles when you got out. Oh, YouTube is great. You're like, oh, my goodness. Do you still have family and friends

there my old lady two brothers and a sister still there do you keep in touch or is it hard to keep in touch with her

I email my mum every day she's got her on that top oh well lovely to talk to you thanks for sharing that with us

it's really it's probably fascinating for everyone like us because it's very different to what we have grown up with and probably the same for you it's very different to what we have grown up with

and probably the same for you. It's the fascination of the other outside world, as Jono said before. Yeah, yeah. No, he's right. Do you still have your name that they gave you from Glory of Earth? Yep, Enoch Loyal. Your first name? That's my given name at this and my, obviously, name on paper as well.

Well, Enoch, if you don't mind, could we say we have a loyal listener in you? Oh, I'm loyal to the cause. Loyal to the cause. Well, that's incredible. Hey, well, we didn't know that about you. What did they tell you inside Gloria Vale about the outside world that you were like, oh, that was a complete lie? It's evil.

Worldly and, yeah, no place to be a Christian and do you, are there parts of Gloria Vale you miss or you're like thank goodness that chapter's over the only thing I miss is my mum and my two other brothers and sister and my

nephews and nieces and that I was just reading here, I just found the article on you online as we're talking. Oh, you see that. Mate, it's the evil internet, mate. Yeah. But you're saying that one of the first cool things that you experienced was having your own bank account,

which is pretty cool, your own money. Oh, that too, yeah. Yeah. Making your own money and stuff like that. Oh, that's awesome. Because you don't get paid in there, so. Yeah, right. And then you learn about bloody interest rates. Tax, the tax, all that stuff. Oh, tax. That's evil. that's awesome. Because you don't get paid in there, so. Yeah, right. And then you learn about bloody interest rates. Tax

and tax and all that stuff. That's evil. That's evil. So the money that they rip out of you. That's the evil stuff. They were right about that. That is. Oh, hey, well, listen, thank you so much for sharing your story. Look, we'll chuck you in the drawer. Can we chuck, are we going to do it? We'll chuck you in the drawer for the FCC Pink and Hyde Park

as well. We'll make a special exception to chuck you in the drawer and we'll be doing it again later on for someone else. Good luck, Enoch, and lovely talking with you. Yeah, you too. Have a good rest of your day. Wowee. That was awesome. Gee whiz.

What a story. Yeah. And good on him for getting out like that. You put yourself in his position. Yeah. Inside there and escaping everything he's known from day dot. Oh, yeah. Very brave.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Joined by the Prime Minister, Chris Hipkins. Good morning. How's things? G'day. How are you going? We're doing well. Lovely to have you on the show again.

Yeah, it's great to be back. I feel like we're getting, yeah, where are we at? Like on a scale of, you know, one to ten, let's say one is David Seymour, ten being Grant Robertson. Where do we sit on your friend scale? 10, let's say one is David Seymour, 10 being Grant Robertson. Where do we sit on your friend scale? Oh, well, we're definitely well past the first date anyway, aren't we? We are.

We're not barbecues around each other's house territory just yet, but I imagine your schedule's pretty busy. Yeah, it's been a little bit on in the last couple of weeks. So we shouldn't invite ourselves around for barbecues just yet. Well, it feels like barbecue weather is disappearing, doesn't it? Yeah, you're right.

It's been going through winter already. It feels like you're making excuses not to have us over for a barbecue. Oh, well, you'd always be welcome. I might not be here, but you'd always be welcome. That's very kind of you. I mean, every day I imagine there's something new going on. There's something that you have to deal with in your job as Prime Minister, whether it's Marama Davidson, whether it's Stuart Nash,

obviously over the last week. Do you ever just wish for one quiet day without any drama going on in politics? It is one of the joys of the job, I guess, that you wake up in the morning, you think, right, what am I doing today? You have a look at your diary. Here's the plan for the day. And as you're leaving home, you think, that's great. That's the plan for the day. And as you're leaving home, you think, that's great, that's the plan for the day.

That's not what's going to happen. Now, from two violent white cis males to another violent white cis male, what do you say to Marama? Oh, look, it was just such a ridiculous choice of words. Underneath it all, the valid point that she was trying to make is that the vast majority of violent and sexual crimes committed are committed by

men. That's a legitimate thing to say and as men we all have a responsibility to say hey look, we're not going to tolerate that. That doesn't mean though that she was trying to say that all men are doing this and I just think the choice of words that she used were just so wrong and probably

actually did more harm to the cause than good because they would have got people rightly upset about it. And that sort of shuts the door to a more sensible conversation about what is actually a really serious issue. Also upsetting at the moment, I imagine, is all the teacher strikes going on over the country. You were a Minister of Education for a long time there. What's going on?

Can we sort all this out so that the teachers are happy and then all the parents are happy because their kids are at school? Yeah, look, I'm disappointed to see a strike again so soon after the last one because, you know, look, I acknowledge that teachers are wanting better pay, they're wanting better conditions. We want those things for them as well. You know, if you look at the records over the last five years,

we've put a lot of extra money into teacher pay and we've actually been working on the issues around their working conditions. I just, I would say to the teachers, you know, I'm disappointed they're back on strike so soon when I would have rather they were around the negotiating table trying to kind of make some progress on these issues because, you know, I think, yes, we do owe it to the kids, we do owe it to the parents to actually get this resolved. Are you, where is the negotiating table at? owe it to the kids, we owe it to the parents to actually get this resolved. Where is the negotiating table at?

Has he made demand of what they want and where is it sitting? I think they're in the process of getting a new offer ready to put out to their members. The secondary teachers have indicated that they want to go ahead with the strike. I'm disappointed with that.

But my understanding and you know, of course, and the way these things work, the Prime Minister doesn't get involved in these negotiations, is that, you know, the negotiations between the Ministry of Education and the teacher unions, they are making progress. Now, well, would you like to tell the figure

to Jono and Ben on the hits? We can pass it on to the teachers. A little bit of an exclusive for us. Act as some sort of middle people in between. I know you're going to tell me it's Labour's year. If I asked you that question, but is it the Warriors' year? Are the Warriors going to win the NRL? How are we looking?

Oh, look, I live in hope. As a keen Warriors supporter, we always live in hope, don't we? But I think they can do it. I think they can do it. I always live in hope, don't we? But I think they can do it. I think they can do it. I still think there's 22 weeks left in the competition. Everyone's like, this is what, week three? Yeah, it's the early days. Week four. Hey, we did this with Christopher Luxon

the other day, so I thought it's only fair to do it to you, Chris Hipkins. It's just the last quiz. Just rattle through a couple of things, the last things that you've done. Last TV series or TV show that you watched? Oh, I tell you what, on the weekend, because I don't normally get to watch TV.

I think it's the first time I've sat down to watch TV since I became the Prime Minister. I started watching this new series on Netflix called The Night Agent. I've only watched one episode, but it's really good. And probably some point in the next year or so, I might get to watch another one. I feel like you might finish that in

five years' time or something. Last concert that you went to? Ed Sheeran in Auckland, and it rained. But it was still bloody good. It was still a great concert. Last sports game that you went to? Big kids' sport, actually. Here in Upper Hutt. Does the Prime Minister still turn up

to some kids' sport? Well, I haven't for a few months, but we're coming into winter season, so let's see what happens. Our last dinner that you ate, what was last night's dinner? Oh, I think it was beef. It was on the menu at work, you know, because I was still at work for dinner time last night, and it looked like beef.

I think it was. I hope it was beef. You sound a little confused. Okay and finally last text that you sent. You don't

have to read it but who was the last text to? Clive Robinson late last

night. And what was the last text you sent to old Stuart Nash? It would

be fair to say it was before the conversation we had at Perth yesterday. Chris Hipkins we enjoy

catching up with you. I'm sure it's going to be another busy day for you and the conversation we had at Perth yesterday. Chris Hipkins, we enjoyed catching up with you. I'm sure it's going to be another busy day for you, and hopefully it gets better after chatting to us. All right. Thanks, guys. Have a great day. See you. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.

Cold snap right around the country. I reckon the coldest morning of the year, according to MetService. Hayley Holt, the wonderful Hayley Holt broadcaster. She's got a book out at the moment. She's in the studio this morning, Ben. Bought her baby a lovely raven. Yeah.

Cute little raven. Very cute, adorable, smiley little thing, aren't they? I'm out of touch with babies though. I've lost my charm.

I was once the Pied Piper of babies. In what regard? They used to love me. They would look at me and be like, there's one of us. Well, you look like

a big baby, don't you? The big giant version of us. Yeah, no, I don't. I get all wet because it's been so long since I've really had to deal with babies on a day-to-day basis you know that a lot of people they hand babies over to the both of us and i end up sort of holding them like rafiki holds simba and the lion king you sort of hold them a bit out from you and it looks all uncomfortable and awkward same thing happened with hayley i don't know what to do i don't know how to hold the baby it's uh it's an absolute mess the amount of people who actually

come up to us and hand their babies over to us yeah like far more than should actually be legally allowed to like even the baby's looking at us going this isn't good parenting oh yeah you're right sometimes people will go can we get a photo with a baby you're like fine and they'll give us the baby and the baby baby has no idea what a photo with the baby? You're like, fine, and they'll give us the baby. And the baby spends- The baby has no idea what's going on. The baby spends the whole time just looking at us going, who's this strange person? Why would they hand me over to a stranger? You're like, poor baby.

You're like, that's all right. Look at the camera. And they're like, no, I'm keeping an eye on this gentleman here holding me. If you're going to hand your baby over to any broadcasters, Tony Street, you know, Simon Barnett, Liz Gunn. Those are the people You hand babies over to Yeah yeah yeah You know Safe pairs of hands

Well but more than you I have seen how awkward you are I don't know why you're so awkward You're never that awkward With your own kids Why are you just But like You know how you hold them

I know maybe I feel more responsibility For other people's kids That you know If you drop your own kid You're like Oh well that's Builds character doesn't it But then you're a lot more

Feel a lot more Guilt If you hurt another child, another person's child. One thing I do think of these days, when you're out of the baby game as far as you're not on that zone, it's how old is the baby? Like when Hayley Holt brought her baby in, I was like, what's that, like 13?

Well, you know, I knew he wasn't 13. But I was like, it could be six months, could be 18 months. Anyone under the age of five, it's really hard to pin how old they are. Like anyone over the age of 80. I'm like, I don't know, you're nearly dead. But under the age, you could kind of, one to three is a bit of a gamble. Yeah. Isn't it?

Well, no, zero to one's all right. You're like, that's fresh. But anything after sort of one to, I get gamble. Yeah. Isn't it? Well, no, zero to one's alright. You're like, that's fresh. But anything after sort of one to, I get lost. Yeah, I'm a godfather and wonderful Jason Tiff,

they brought their baby over. So what's their baby now? Three? You're like, I just barely won. Jim, my wife is looking at me going,

you're the godfather for god's sakes. We should become, why don't people text in and go, would you like us, like you can be the godfather to my... Well, you have so far, there's no reason you put forward the good reason why you should

be. I'm not saying we're going to be good godfathers. We're not going to be there. We're not going to turn up to stuff. We'll forget birthdays, but we'll give it a shot. When do you stop saying the month for the age too? You know, I had to introduce Jono. I go, here's Jono.

He's 1,642 months old. You know, I had to introduce Jono. I go, here's Jono. He's 1,642 months old. You know, like, you know, when does that say, you know? You get to a certain age, you're like, oh, they're six months, they're nine months, they're 18 months and then you just stop

and you go, oh, they're six. I'd like you to refer to me in months now. Makes me sound a lot younger than I actually am. A lot less numbers. I'm in that 80 category. You don't know quite how old he is. Yeah, so text 4487. We can become godfathers of babies we don't know quite how old he is Yeah so text 4487

We can become godfathers of babies We don't know We'll take on multiple jobs I don't know if anyone would want to do that By the way I'm 497 months old I'll do that next That is the hats