Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: Ben Tries a ThighMaster and Instantly Regrets It

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

On today’s show:  We call Megan’s South African singer husband to see if he can help Jono with a special mission Ben’s finally tapped into his emotional side and it’s kind of terrifying him Why Jono is now known as “the display guy” at his local Warehouse Dear Megan: My ex and I agreed our boys wouldn’t ride motocross until 15, now he’s bought them bikes at 6 and 8 We get the latest update on the Tom Phillips case! “Why were people helping them?” Ben tries a ThighMaster for the first time and he’s deeply uncomfortable Instagram: @THEHITSBREAKFAST Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & MeganSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Thanks to Hello Fresh, cook easy, delicious dinners the whole family will love because nothing beats dinner time. Welcome to the podcast. Great to have you with us. John is on a mission to learn the South African National Anthem before the end of the week. Any help? You get in touch with us on social media if you've got any advice for them. Some handy links have been coming through, people really breaking it down. Yeah, someone's texting saying, contact the school choir that sung at the All Blacks game. I think we are looking at trying to get them on to help you out.

They were incredible Saturday night as well. And how much help do you envisage? Because, like, it'd be great to have all of the choir there. Get them in and then you just mouth along, but you're not quite. Yeah, no one will hear you. Good thing about a choir. Yeah, you're really safe your numbers, isn't it, on that one? Have you, what was the last thing you really had to learn?

Rubik's Cube. I did that for a TV show years ago, how to do that. And that was, yeah, it was a lot. That was hours and hours of just remembering algorithms. You can do it when you really just knuckle down and do it. I kept saying to my daughter at the moment. Just got to knuckle down and do it. No distractions to do it.

But it is hard. Is she trying to learn the Rubik's cute? No, she's just trying to study for exams. I'm just like, you've just got to knuckle down and do it. There's no easy way to do it. No. Just got to do it. Committing things to memory, I really wish you could just insert a little chip.

But there's different ways you can do it, though. That's what I was saying here. And you've got to find, I remember recording stuff so I can listen to it back. And I remember writing stuff down and coming up a little poem. All different ways to do it, whatever your brain. There's got to be a way your brain can remember something. Yeah. And that's where the Rubik's Q, I remember writing it down

and then remembering, it's all algorithms. It's so weird. I thought it was just kind of like, oh, you can kind of vibe it, but you definitely can't. What was it? Is it on TikTok where those people are turning it into gossip, turning lessons into gossip? Like Shakespeare and stuff into gossip and stuff.

Because I feel like it would help them. Again, what is it what's, yeah, I think it's a great idea, right? If that's the way you learn. So I was like, this guy Romero was toots into Julia. Yeah, oh, yeah, you did this. Oh, you'll never believe what happened, the capital. And then Tabult came along. like, oh my God, he was such a dick.

Yeah, but that helps you remember it in the storyline. I mean, go for it. There's no, yeah, as long as you can regurgitate it. So I don't know if that's going to help turn the SIF African anthem into gossip. So there was this Afrikaans guy. He sung his four lines. Listen, I, yeah, I'm really, I'm trying to give it a genuine intent. But I'm, yeah, I'll, yesterday I listened to it so many times.

I was like, none of it's soaking in. Right, yeah, it's not fair to get it down or something. Knuckle down. You would write it down or something. Get it into paper or write notes. You can't listen to it all as one thing over and over, because you need to, I reckon you need to just break it down line by line. Whiteboard, write it down. Can you get it back on the white boy?

This is my daughter. She's like, shut up, Dad. But it doesn't work for everyone, though. That's the thing. You've got to try and find your trick. Maybe you could go like, okay, there's a Hineken there, and if I know the first line, I get to drink that Hineken. Oh, yeah. And then I can't give another Hineken until I've got the second line.

And then you really got to write them down. No, but he'll just be like, pretty much got it. Five lines in, though. Five lines in is a shambles, but can you get to five lines? You're like, no, I've written it down, I've said it out loud, I've got that, I can do all for, no, I can't. One thing I know about Hanukas is they make my memory better. Just trying to fly, I don't know, maybe it's not the right idea, but yeah. Well, you got your husband, Andrew to help, but he's done the anthem many times.

Not the South African anthem, though. He's a singer, he was born in South Africa, surely he can give you some. assistance. Well, yeah, he's joining us right now on the podcast. John O Ben and Megan. The podcast. We've had a bet with a South African radio station where Jono has resulted in Jono learning the South African anthem this week. And we've got Megan's husband, Andrew, who's a great singer. He's done the anthem before. And it was also born in South Africa joining us right now. Andrew, hello. Hello. Hi, how are you? Now, how quick is this conversation? I know you like to keep your

conversations brief. Yeah, how long have we got? Give me time. Actually, I'll give you a time minute. We've got three and a half minutes, guys. I'm giving a time limit. All right, let's get to it. Time starts now. Okay, so Jono's made this bit by himself, and you know that we're, Ben and I don't want to sing the anthem.

So Jono's going to sing the South African anthem by himself. Yeah, you've really put your foot in a day. Out of all the countries you could have chosen to mess with here. Bro, yeah, this thing's been busting my chops over the last 24 hours. whatever hours, and I'm like, how far has you got? He's like, I've got the first line. Honestly, I... But it is tough.

I'll give you that. Because I was mowing the lawns. I just had it on loop, and I've just had it playing on loop in the car. And then I'm like, maybe I can't learn anymore. Maybe I've reached an age where I can't digest any information. I'm like, it's driving me bonkers. All I've learned is the first few lines. Have you managed to get the bit where the, you sort of have to do like...

I don't want to say like a click, but it's like in the back of your throat. Yeah, no, it does... Yeah, that's... I think that when it gets into kind of the Dutch Afrikaans, you do a couple of the... Right. Yeah. No, I haven't got to that part. It's half if you've got a phlegm in your throat, maybe like if you've got the flu or something.

I look at it and you look at it as a mass anthem, it's a mountain. It's too much of a mountain to climb. So you need to break it down into a separate language verses. There's about four or five lines per language. That's an impressive anthem. Now, you are originally from South Africa, Andrew, right? I am, but you've caught me at an awkward time. I'm as good as a

Timu, South African a version. Oh, really. So you can't really help, John, because I know you've sung the anthem or anthems at sports games

around New Zealand before. Yeah, but not South Africa. See, I'm not silly. I don't mess with that one. I moved from South Africa when I was 11 years old. So, you know, like it's sitting in the back of my mind,

but it would take a better practice to get it back. Godspeed for you, John. Yeah. Yeah. I don't put, I really want to give it a genuine attempt, I'll say that, but don't put too much hope on it, like, I don't want to offend anyone, that's all, I want you, you have to be, your heart needs to be in the right place, you know?

Heart's in the right place, there's no, there's no question about that, it's just my memory, my short-term memory is not. So how do you, because you've done American, I know you struggled to do the, like, learn the Australian, and how do you, like, learn someone else's anthem, what's the best way? I think what John is doing is the right thing, what you can do, especially, with the funny pronunciation of things there's a lot of like stuff on YouTube of people breaking stuff

down. Phonetically yeah listen off yeah it's really good advice because I do go to chat GPT I was like I need to learn the anthem in four days what can I do? It's like try breaking it down phonetically so I've tried that can I give you a taste of what we've got going on so far Andrew

would love to hear it to get your feedback and if you've got any notes any work on as they say okay here we go Alright. All right. In Cose, sicklele, Africa, Malupacanese will dovetalaya Yisovami Tanta Zoyetou

in course in Cicelela Tina Okay, so what are we thinking? Well, apologies to anyone from South Africa listening right now. His heart was in the right place. Can I just say, apology to South Africa? And in fact, the continent of Africa for what you just heard.

Andrew, your feedback. It might help having a visual. Visual was worse, to be honest. He was. He was reading it. He did have the lyrics. Yeah, he was definitely reading it. I'm trying.

You're doing what. Well, keep it up. You're doing great. Oh, Andrew, well, thank you. No one's sending this to South Africa. Your time this morning. Okay. Oh, Adred the Hits, 4487.

I know listening right now there will be people originally from South Africa. I firstly apologised. I apologize to them. No, no, no apologies. Because also I'm getting the streaming numbers up on the answer, and all the royalties will be going back to South Africa. John O' Ben and Megan. The podcast.

The Hits. He had a bet after the first game with a radio station in South Africa about if our team loss would have to learn the other country's anthem. Now, our team won, Megan, right? Yeah, so that means we were off the hook, right? My Palesa and Aaron from 5 FM in South Africa. They were like, okay, we'll learn the National Anthem of Altooroa, both the Tarawa and English versions.

So they're doing that right now because their team lost. Yeah, that was the bet, done, and dusted. Then they caught me at a moment of weakness and a moment of loose lips, half-time on Saturday night. What I will say, I'll say this on behalf of Ben and Megan, is we will learn the national anthem anyway. We're trying to book an Eden park to perform the anthem And we'll do it for you regardless

Hey, we love it Hey, have a great day, brother. So they're so happy. We just want you to isolate the word anyway. Yeah, I know. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway.

But it was what he was shooting his mouth off about earning all four verses earlier in the week. So we feel like deep down he wanted to do it So he's doing it now. It's tough. It's really hard. Yeah, that's why we weren't keen on that. So part of me that I thought this.

was easy. Shereen, good morning. Good morning. Now you heard, now this is day one, day one of the journey. Now, don't be too critical,

but your thoughts? You're getting there, but you need help. Yeah, he definitely needs help. So how can we help him? Because, yeah, he's trying to read it,

he's trying to phonetically break it down. What can he do? That's still the, I would say the Zulu is still the easy part. It's the Afrikaans.

That's going to harder, like the I've ever get backed. Yeah, right. Yeah, I have heard that. That is worrying me. That's a hurdle. I'm not looking forward to climbing over.

You need to clean your throat when you do it. Clean your throat. I know, but I'm still stuck on verse one, babe. This is three verses a later. It's coming up. It's a big... I like the last one. The last one's just in English. And also, when you start with the

African spot, I don't know if you if you've heard it on Saturday as well when they start with 80 blow it's loud and proud like you need to like really sing it out of your text I just sing it quite softly

because I mean yeah I mean nothing's going to help them with the singing the actual tone and pitch I feel like those are final touches that we're not ready for yet he's got the confidence to belt it out sing along if you know the words Shireen

you're off you're off you're off she's off she's throwing me off no she used to get rid of she knows all the words yeah she's right funny she was doing it this week good on you shireen have a great day appreciate you cool thank you too thank you see you keep the help coming through for johnno there's a link a very handy link that's been sent through on youtube and someone else saying it sounds like you're reading out

a Chinese takeout menu it sounds like you're singing that out as well. You're just banking on most of us won't know if you're doing it well or not. We need someone, we need someone. Yes, a Southern African adjudicator. Yes.

We're going to get the guys from 5 FM back, you know. Yes. To make sure you're doing a proper job of us. I'm just making up words. Well, we don't, we want to know, Megan. Yeah, we do. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. I mean, if you look at your letterbox today,

you should get the voting papers through for the local body elections. They start arriving from today right around the country for the councils and the mayors. Everyone loves voting for the local district boards. I know, I'd say that with a tone in my voice, don't I? But it's important. You know, these people run your area. You're nice if we've played a bit more attention to it. A little bit more attention.

And not just draw fallaces all over their faces. There's that one near your place. They keep cutting some poor person's face out. They're in a lineup. They haven't cut other faces out. And then I see they replace the face and someone's got to cut it out again. I know, I know. They're how important.

You're right. So, yeah, get up and vote because they're extremely low voter turnout every time we do these things, right? But then you'll have a moment when something. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. But it's people making big decisions. But I try to have a moment, too, guys. It's not something we generally do.

Well, I do generally do. Years, you know, when you get interviewed for things, you know, and I was getting interviewed for the podcast today with my daughter. And that's generally I will look for, you know, you look for something that's funny. You know, you feel more comfortable in those spots, right? Not sharing too much of yourself. I don't mind sharing a little bit,

but I feel like sometimes I think no one really wants to hear from actual, you know, from me. From actual being. No, I'm like, oh, what is this guy? What's guy? You know, I kind of have that in the back of my mind every time. I do find that interesting when they sometimes interview people and they give an opinion on something. Yeah, I'm like, why are we listening to this person's opinion? But our bosses are like, maybe people do want to hear, you know, open up a bit more.

So I had a moment the other day, I was doing an interview with a C&O. do a podcast with her and we're talking about a podcast when I grow up and the facts you know and I got a moment and I was like maybe this is one of the moments the bosses talk about I'm opening up I can lean into this moment talking about how quickly it goes and they grow up and it was just yesterday

she was little and how I really value doing the podcast and I do with her you know with her um bring that to the show yeah exactly and I was talking about you know it's a really special thing we get to do together and to see her blossom and to grow and you know eventually

don't say blossom okay we'll see her grow. Okay, sorry. I'm not good at this. I'm not good at this, Megan. But, you know, eventually, I'm like, she's not going to need me. It's a couple of years' time she's going to be off on her own. And I was like, that makes me sad, you know, because I really value you this time. It goes so fast. But you've done your job if she doesn't need you. Yeah. And I thought it was a moment. And it sort of sat in the room, you know, after I spoke. And I was like, oh, this is, this is it. This is those, these moments. What did the person you're telling the story to? What did they say? They were looked to me and I had a little bit glassy eyes. You know, I was getting a little bit emotional like that. I looked at my daughter, Siena. She sort of looked. to me and I was like this is that this is what the boss has talked to us about. This is my vulnerable moment. This is my vulnerable moment. Real bed.

People want to have a real bed. And she looked at me and she's like, Dad, I'm not dying. You're like, you're laying it on a bit thick. And I was like, oh yeah, you know, then I went back into my shell again. I was like, oh, really, I'm no more opening up. I'm just going to look for a cheap guy.

You're dying me out here with this routine. There you go. There you go. So maybe it's not for me. some of me, guys, the real feelings, the real thoughts, you know, I have, could stay deep inside. Oh, geez. John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast.

The Hits. Now, the warehouse. I got one down the road for my place, and I walked in yesterday to pick up some mods and ends, and then halfway through my shopping experience, the manager, comes up and says, oh, it's you. This guy. And sort of saying it like I'd been spoken about behind my back in store. What did you do in there? She then said, oh, you're the table guy. And then I remembered a few months earlier, and I unashamedly,

if there is an option to buy a fully constructed piece of display furniture, I will always try and buy that as opposed to buying the box and having to put it together myself. I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. And she, so I did. So four months ago, I went and picked up this tiny little outdoor glass table, and I took it through the counter, like holding this big table. They said anything I'm going to help with, and I put this on the counter.

I was at, just this please. It's quite a big table for the counter. And it really threw the worker behind the desk. It was like, oh, we, this doesn't have a barcode. She's like, this is just the display table. Yeah. She's like, you're sure you want the display table? I was like, absolutely.

There's no part of me that doesn't want this table. Sometimes you even get a discount if it's a display table, if it's the last thing there. Because people have touched it in. Yeah, they're like, oh, it's a display, I'll give you, oh, okay. Anyway, there was a bit of, it sent much ripples of confusion through the warehouse staff when I was doing this. manager came over and said, oh, listen, we can't sell you this, but she's like, she kind of pulled me aside and gave me a pep tool.

She's like, you can do this. If I give you this box to this table, I'm pretty sure you can assemble it. I reckon you can do it, like kind of trying to big me up. And so then I walked away with the box that I had to assemble myself. And she was right. I could assemble it.

I like, I assembled it fine. It took probably, you know, an hour longer than it needed to. And so then yesterday she was like, how do you get along? assembling the table how you go I said it's still standing baby so she was very proud of me

very proud of me but that's I feel like the stores is a general rule of fun I know IKEA's starting if you guys have got display December big news it's starting December

yeah if you've got display furniture let us buy it there's people out there so then someone at the store has to assemble another one and they don't want to assemble it any more than you do because you have the

assembled option you know and you know you're paying just that little bit more takes up space Yeah, but you're like, cool, at the point at the back. They're like, would you like that? Well, you're like, 20 bucks more, it's assembled. I'm like, I'm taking it.

You just stand here, sir, with one of our staff members, and they'll quickly assemble it for you. Yeah, true, that's the thing. How easy they make it. I don't mind, yeah, I don't mind. It's like a bloody rescue dog, isn't it, the display model. It's got a few bumps and bruises. It's been used.

You don't care, though. You still love it. And actually, she helped me out because there's no way I was going to be able to fit in the boot of the car as well. I hadn't even facted that part in. Oh, God. Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Dear Megan. Right, let's pry into someone's private life.

Who's messaged Megan? Slid into your DMs, Megan. They have. Today's message reads, Dear Megan, me and my husband, our ex-husband, have two children together. He is very into motocross, stupidly expensive and stupidly dangerous. Don't get me started.

Anyway, when we were together, we agreed that our two boys wouldn't get on a bike until they were at least 15. Now we're separated. he's bought them both their own bikes and is pushing them into riding at the weekends. I'm obviously pretty annoyed to say the least. They're only six and eight

and I think too young to be getting into something so dangerous and in any case we agreed on an age limit when we were together and he's gone against that. Can people in similar situations help? Do I have no say in what my children do when they're with their dad or do I have a right to put my foot down? That's an interesting one. Yeah.

And it's, I just, like, speaking from personal experience, someone in our family has split away from their partner. And I know she's like, well, when the kids are with the dad, that's his time. Right. Like, the father, from her point of view, he doesn't want the kids to get hurt any less than she does. So I wouldn't put them in harm's way. And it's kind of not her place to interfere. That's from personal experience, what's the bat?

But they made the agreement when they were together. So this, to me, feels a little. Yeah, I know, but they both. They agreed to stay together and then they... The better or worse, turns out it was worse. Well, the kids still exist. So that agreement should still stand. So it kind of, to me, feels a little bit spiteful on his behalf that he's like,

I know she'll hate this. So I'm going to do it anyway. Is he allowed to do it? It's an expensive spiteful maneuver, though, isn't it? Motor cross bikes are not... Yeah. It's interesting because, you know, my parents separated and my step- dad is very different from my dad and the things they're into and I guess I was probably

say 13 when he was sort of you know living with us a stepdad so yeah and he was into a lot more like farming and fishing and hunting and which is hey look at me I'm this not me it's not me I was making videos on the farm and things like that now looking back he'd be like what is this do you want to do a space jam sketch with a jar of jam yeah so what was what was his reaction well he went off and go we want to go to this thing or do you want to do this thing or write this motorbike and I'm so oh yeah I'm all good you know like I could avoid it that wasn't really my thing you could have been a completely different human being five years earlier maybe it would have been at a younger age but yeah it was probably just yeah you could be working

over at the rock with a bloody hunting and fishing polar fleece on mate wasn't quite my jam not to say it's not other people's jam but it's interesting yeah how parents can influence yeah yeah yeah so if you if in that situation he's like mate you're grabbing a gun you come in hunting and fishing Yeah, well, I kind of, yeah Would Kevin Boyce have had an issue with it? Well, I guess maybe younger-wise It would have been interesting Yeah, depending on what level

But then can they really, you know, if you're under their care? That's the question here, right? Yeah, I guess Because we have like a no YouTube rule We're really like hard on that And if we broke up and he started doing that I just think it's spikeful

I'm just like, you know how I feel about that Yeah There's so many things, so many sports they could get into. But motocross is pretty cool. Yeah. I've never been an uncool motorcross. If you're a motocross family, you're a motocross family.

John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast. The Hits. Shout out to the moon. Looking pretty good at the moment. Shout out to the moon. Doesn't get enough shoutouts. Oh, yesterday we're a bit indifferent about the moon.

Why did I like to? I'd like to win the moon back because yesterday we're a bit like, is it that great? And I saw it this morning and I was like, it's pretty good. It was, yeah. It's looking good, Moon. I like what you've done. I put it down to a grumpy Monday. Yeah, no, we take it back, Moon.

You're not so bad. Dear Megan. Dear Megan. Okay, today's deliver comes from a wife. She's separated from her husband. They have two children together. They are six and eight. And when they were together, they agreed they wouldn't get into motorcross until they were 15.

Obviously, hubby's hobby. But he's got them into motocross at the weekend now, and she is not happy with it. So she wants to know, does she have a say when they're with their dad? Do I have a right to put my foot down about them doing my job? Right across. Maybe he misheard her. He said, we won't get them motorcross bikes till they're 15. He might have thought 15 minutes after we break up.

That's pretty much what he's done, right? Miscommunication. Kylie, let's get you on this morning. What are your thoughts on this? Good morning, team. I think that she needs to get a little bit back in her lane. She's dictating basically how he can spend time with the kids and, you know, that's pretty unfair.

I was a separated mum, and I bought motorbikes for both of my kids and used to chuck them on the trailer and turn up to motocross events and their dad would arrive and they'd have a great time. So, yeah, I think she needs, I think it's a little bit over the top. Never too early, too, for the kids to learn about the benefits of the ACC system as well. And the joys that that can provide. I mean, a lot of kids, a lot of young kids do it around the country, you're right. So, yeah, someone's texting and said their son started at four.

Yeah, if I put my son, he's four on a motorbike, he would 100% hit the wall. Yeah. But it's all just what you're used to, your environment. Maybe we've met that wonderful motocross family in Northland. That's true. From the young age, right. Three-year-olds jump in and stuff. Oh, damn. These are some cool kids, hey, thank you very much for your call.

Appreciate it. Trina, where are you sitting on this? Oh, I just think that she needs to find out first if, Dad is actually pressuring the kids into doing motocross. Or they enjoy it. If that's what they want to do. They actually like it. They might like hanging out with Dad doing a bit of motto in the weekend.

You're a bit of a motor family? Yeah, yeah, we are. But I guess the argument is they made that deal when they were together. And to me this feels spiteful that he's doing it to be like, well, I know you'll hate this. And does she have a say in what they can do when they're, they're with their dad. Yeah, I get that, but not really, because I've broken up.

She has her rules for her house. He has his rules for his house. God, I'd find that so hard. And I'm pretty sure he probably doesn't dictate what she does with the kids during the week. And you'd like to think that both of them have the kids' best interests at heart? Exactly. Been through all this, eh?

And it's just, yeah, it does get messy. But at the end of the day, when the kids are at Dad's house for the weekend, that's dad's time and what he does with his kids, he's not going to make them, he's not going to hurt them on purpose is that he? He doesn't want them to get hurt. It could make them more rounded, right? So they experienced, you know, two different

sides of life at two different families. Yeah, and moms are always going to be protective of their kids or whatever, you know, and I know a lot of moms don't like it. And I think it's also like a control thing, you know, you can't control. No, you're right. Well, it's not like

they're bloody wrestling sharks and vaping, you know? Well, that's it, you know. It could be worse. It could be worse. Hey, thank you so much, Trina. Appreciate your sharing. Have a good day. Please.

All right, Megan. Well, it seems like it's pretty much a landslide, isn't it? I was in the minority there. Lots of people saying it's better to start young. It's safer in the long run. They learn to be way better riders. And it's pretty much a landslide saying, yeah, she doesn't have a say when they're with their dad. Obviously, Dad doesn't want them to get hurt.

So you've got to just hope he's got safety members. in place. If he returns them home with a broken leg, she can give a look. Yeah. Let's give her that. She can be like, mm-hmm. I want to, mm-hmm. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Morning, the biggest story in the country right now, after four years living in the Waikato bush, Tom Phillips' father with his kids on the run for almost four years.

It's crazy. I know a lot of international interest in this story as well. Well, yesterday was shot dead by police and from the New Zealandherald.com.com. dotco.n. Z. Jordan Dunn. Good morning. Good day. Lovely to have you on. Do it live from Tekwitti. We've been enjoying the local Chinese cuisine we understand last night, Jordan. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I was just saying that this, you know, despite all the circumstances, I think it's brought a lot of business to the local area. All the, all the motels are kind of booked out, all the local takeaways are pretty busy.

On a Monday night, too. Monday. They would not, the Chinese takeaway people would not have been prepared for that on a Monday night. But to more, More serious matters, just a tragic end, I guess, on many fronts. Tom Phillips shot dead? Yeah, that's right. Definitely, I guess, not how this was intended to play out, and especially with the police officer who's seriously injured. It sounds like they've got an injury to the eye.

They were shot at close range by a high-powered rifle, police are saying, distressing circumstances, and the fact that Tom Phillips was shot and killed, they weren't able to speak to him, it means they weren't able to find those kids as quickly as they possibly could have. Now, they were able to find them. So that is also the best news out of this situation. The three kids are found.

They are safe. And we're just hoping for the best, for their mental health and everything after. For your long ordeal. Incredible story. You know, the whole world is really captivated by, you know, for them to be on the run for what, pretty much four years, an evading capture for later. How did they manage to do that?

Any idea? We know that they were found, or the two remaining kids were found in a very remote campsite. So that gives you some indication that they were only really able to find this campsite with the help of the one child that they were speaking to, the one that was sound with Tom Phillips when he was shot. They needed some guidance to find it. And police have also suspected for a long time for most of the search that they are being helped.

So you add up all those aspects. They're an incredibly remote part of this dense bush. They're possibly being helped and they don't have anyone to give them any guidance of where they could possibly be in this huge area. I mean, it's like a needle in a haystack times a thousand. You do feel for the kids. I mean, this is a long recovery for them, and I'm sure a lot of therapy on the way as well.

In terms of, like, the police officer who went out, what I couldn't get my head around is why was there only one cop there? Yeah, that was a really interesting aspect as well, and I thought they know he's armed, why they only said he won an officer, and they said that, you know, once they realized it was Tom Phillips or they suspected it was, they sent out extra resources, there's extra extra cops to do this. He was spiked and then he kept

driving along on his quad bike for quite some ways and they didn't actually know where he'd stopped and mind you this is in the middle of nowhere so it's actually pitch black and so the cops were just driving as normal this one cop was driving hopefully trying to find him and it wasn't like he saw him and then purposely went up to him by the sound of it it was like

he was caught by surprise that he just drove up and all of a sudden there's Tom Phillips you know what? And gunfire wow so what next? What's the next steps that you know to to help the kids. Yesterday they were telling us they haven't you been reunited with the mother and right

now they're in the care of police and Orangatamariki. So I'm not really sure there were all these questions about how they're going to be re-socialized like what their mental state is like. And I guess the other question is with all this whole thing, what's the condition of the officer? He's obviously going to be

through multiple surgeries and so it's just going to be a matter of time to see how he recovers and what kind of injuries he's going to be having for longstanding. You're in the area And the thing I kind of can't understand, maybe you have a better grasp of it because you're there, why would people help them? Because I heard yesterday there were people who were being asked and they said, we just don't want to talk about it. Why do you think people would help? It's kind of interesting, I guess, just from visiting, it's got a very community feel.

And when people are coming in, maybe cops and maybe media and that sort of thing and talking to them, they might be thinking, like, we know Tom, potentially, but we don't. know you. You guys are just outside people coming in. You're strangers to us. We don't necessarily want to help you. That's kind of the feeling you get from them. They're not like a close-knit community. I guess a lot of people would feel that, but they'd help people close to them, but not

people who are coming in and they have no idea who they are. And there has been these debates whether or not Tom is actually a good or a bad father and all these sorts of things. But I think at the end of the day from an outside perspective, you've got to understand. He's absconded. He's taken these three kids against their will and um you know keep them away from society keep them away from the education and

that had to be there had to be some uh stop to that yeah well listen you just feel for uh for everyone involved the family the children the police uh it's been traumatic on on many fronts well hey listen thank you for updating us jordan and uh we'll hear more from you uh throughout the day on the herald dot co dot nz and of course on the nzb news affiliates i've always wanted to say that thanks so much guys is it a thing you say i don't know it sounds good john o ben and megan The podcast. Now Megan, you popped down to your car and you bought something back, which is pink and purple. And it has two foam bits sticking out from the purple bit in the middle.

This is my new apparatus that I bought. I'm pleased my husband's not listening because he's literally like, can you stop buying stupid stuff? Did you get to feed this on an Instagram ad? No, I didn't actually. But it's partially, oh no, that's a clue. I won't tell you that just yet. But looking at this, it's got two foam bits. in a V shape.

Well, put a photo up on Hits Breakfast, on our story. And it's kind of like hard to push together. Like, you'd have to work really hard to push. I think it's, they used to sell these on, as seen on TV. I think it's, is it like a thigh master where it spreads your legs open and then you crush your thighs close to you? It's kind of what I was thinking. Maybe it would be along those lines.

You are correct. It's also. Is this helping for the Little Wee Club too? Yes. Strengthening your pelvic floor. So, the Little Wee Club did influence me. also because I hurt my knee and they, you know, when you have to go to

any kind of physio and they're like, what do you do for a job? And I'm like, well, I do sit on my bum a lot. Move your mouth a lot? You have to say you have a sedentary job. So I just, I needed you to know that if I'm squeezing, that I'm doing my thigh master. Please don't do that in front

of us. Is this a new thing that every morning you're going to be squeezing your legs spreading them out and squeezing them in together? I don't know. Do you want you to meet yesterday? there's that one in the gym that does the same thing and if you get eye contact with someone who's doing it.

Yeah, don't look us in the eyes. I'm definitely going to be looking at you while I'm doing it. No, I don't want eye contact. Do it now, look at bed and let me just see how weird it is. Let me see how weird it is. No, what are you wearing me out? He can't, he can't.

Why did you make it weird? No, don't look at me now. You're the leg spread open, mate. You're like, and you're like, and open the beginning. And out. Don't look at me. Just do it and don't look at me. Where am I supposed to look at?

Do you want to have a go? Anywhere but me, all right? Well, we can tell the things I can tell you tensing as well. It's a great idea. What's wrong with that? It's a great idea. I'm all for it.

I just don't want to be like, no eye contact. You try it and I'll do eye contact. Why can't you do this in the comfort of your own home? Because this is where I'm set at tree. When I'm at home, I'm running around after kids. In the car, on the motorway? Oh, I'll probably do it then too. I'm going to have inner thighs of steel.

As a lover of... I'm going to crush nuts and no. Dusty old. Look at it Oh yeah See the eye contact Yeah I'm finding it I'm finding it quite weird

I was like And Patricia Grace And it's very thrusty Isn't it? It's good though It's good for the Yeah See

Yeah You can crush a can A spaghetti with those legs now John O'Ben and Megan The podcast That Why you opened a door too It can be any door

A bathroom door Bedroom door Front door Backdoor Garage door I'm just listing doors Yeah Just people get the idea

So we're at having dinner on the weekend It was kind of Father's Day treat But it was disguised as a Father's Day treat It was really just where the family wanted to go for dinner But sexed up as a Father's Day dinner Which was fine, I was happy to roll that Anyway, the place for a shared toilet situation With the multiple other locations, right?

So you go into like a hallway A labyrinth of lavatory doors and cupboards And I would say about 20 doors From start to finish in this hallway And so you go and found where I needed to find beautifully and then getting back to where I came from now that was the tricky part and so I was trying like you kind of sort of open doors and look and be like no no that's cleaning cupboards no that's another restaurant it's a Mexican restaurant and the

other and then I thought confidently that I'd found the door that I needed and boom burst in straight in the middle of a Vietnamese commercial kitchen now we weren't eating Vietnamese and the chef turns around he says what are you doing in here and I said I don't know that's a really good question And I said, I'm looking for my families, though. Well, they're not in the kitchen. It's a great boy. It's happened to a friend of mine.

He was quite a few that night. And he was in the Italian restaurant. Same thing. Went to the bathroom. Everything came back and walked straight into like a, again, I think it was a Japanese restaurant. It was obviously in the door next door. And just stood there like, have I got this wrong by it? I've been the whole time.

Is this where I was? I've been ordering spaghetti bolognaz at a Japanese restaurant. He really messed with his head for quite a while. So yeah, it could happen. It could happen. the wrong door. They need better labelling on those things. Yeah.

They do because they all look the same. You're right, Ben. Okay, 0800 the hits. What have you opened the door to? We'd love all sorts of calls and texts through this morning, 4-487. Megan, you open the door to anything special? Yeah, but none of it. For radio.

Oh, what do you mean? I've walked in on some nefarious things. Yeah. Oh, multiple times. Like, you know. doing stuff that shouldn't be that one. That's not for like, I wouldn't want to see it. Right.

Should we put it that way? Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, well, you know. It was Ben and me once, all right? That's right. Once, was it? We haven't looked at each other.

And why were you in the girls' toilet? Yeah, we haven't looked at each other in the eyes since. I opened the wrong door that time too. It was actually the right door. I really enjoyed it. Ben never, didn't he didn't call me back. Oh, 100 of the Hats. Four, four, eight, seven.

Now, what did you open the door to? The best calls in tech. John O'O. Ben and Megan. The podcast. That's you opened the door too That's what we'd love You'd love your texting calls on this morning Robbie Williams was who we were talking about before

I opened the door back in our old work And he was in the building I opened the door to the corridor And he was walking to the bathroom We passed each other What did you say to Robbie Woody? You've got one moment with Robbie Williams What do you say to him?

I just tried to pay it cool And I just did the eye Hey Did you do the eyebrows Yeah no hey And he went How's it going or something And then that was it

Let me entertain you Robbie Yeah that was it I just try to play it cool Mind you're probably all that engagement needed Well because you don't feel like you want to pester those sort of people like that it was being pestered all day but we used to have a rule in that building too you weren't if you saw them walking around you weren't allowed to like

stop them yeah so to take photos you had to be cool yeah i reckon i reckon i reckon you'll remember that well vaguely you had to remind me so not that memorable and uh great text here on four four eight seven megan um so this is this is a big story they didn't want to talk and you'll discover why my older brother and i got trapped in the sky tower we didn't know how to get back to the elevator to go down. So we opened the side door. The door went down to a level where a private function was being held.

The door shut and lowered behind us, so we couldn't go anywhere. But through the hens party inside. We sat in the stairwell for a good ten minutes contemplating it, but then we decided to take our shirts off and dance our way through. We looked like we'd been dragged backwards through the blackberries, like nails across us,

but they managed to get through, and they both said they would never talk about it. Oh, so they danced their way through. be entertainers through the Hens party to get out. Great commitment. What a brainstorm session too. Yeah, good creativity.

It must have been pretty cute because like you two doing that. I don't know if it would have been the same. They definitely wouldn't have thought it was entertainment, that's for sure. He'd be said, I met Robbie Williams once. Let me entertain you. Off comes the shirt. Nicole with us. What happened?

What did you open the door to, mate? Oh, when I came home one day from work, I opened the door. Have you seen Daddy Daycare? Oh, the movie, Eddie movie movie. You're right? Yeah, and he opens the door and he just starts looking around. There's a shi-go over the walls. Well, that was it, but it was a dog, my dog.

She managed to, like, get up onto the table, poo on the table. She stood in it, met it everywhere, got into the bathroom. I lived in a little one-bedroom house at the time in the, like, in a Hopi. And she got, like, the toilet paper out, ripped it to pieces, tore it all around the house. It looked like someone had just come in and just... Crime scene. Yeah She was like

Yeah She was like To get to the places I'd never seen Like for a dog Anyway But bless she tried to wipe it up With the toilet paper

It was either I hate you for going to work Or she just loved it Oh that's yeah That's not after a long day at work That was the last thing You need to come home And tend to

They happened to Someone who called us up Once with a rumour The automatic vacuum Oh yeah And they got hold of Some of the leftovers And just took it everywhere

Took it on tour The vacuum's meant to go it went into the nooks and grannies did this job in some ways I appreciate you call Nicole you have a great day yeah it's a great text here 4487 just to go out on

what you open the door to I walked in I walked in it tastefully I walked I opened the door and walked on my son getting to third base with his pillow with his pillow

I hope the son didn't turn around Yeah, you did the answer. Because that would traumatise them. And so just back away, shut the door. Oh, God, that would traumatise me. John O'Bennon and Megan, the podcast. That's the type of avocado growing in New Zealand, the haricado, the haricado, named after Harry, who is the guy Nelson, who's discovered the par the avocado tree growing on his property. And apparently, it can withstand frost.

A lot of other avocados can't. So now they're like... The haricado. This one's quite, yeah, quite robust. Hardy. So, yeah. He didn't plant the tree, but he said, yeah, he's just like, well, hey, this is great. So now they've named it after him, which is pretty cool.

Geez, they're cheap at the moment, aren't they? They go through their faces. They do really. They go, there's a spike really high, and then they just plummet. Plum it where the supermarket has got like 9,000 rotting avocados sitting there going, please buy. 20 for five cents. Stressed out day yesterday, geez, very stressful. Not only am I having to learn, you know, the 19 languages in the South African National Anthem.

Whose fault is that? It's on me. It felt like you wanted to do that. We've just held you. You said you want to do four verses at the start, unprompted. And then unprompted again on Saturday night when you were talking to our South African friends about a bet that we made that if the All Blacks won, we would have to, well, we wouldn't have to sing the anthem. You said, oh, we'll do it.

We'll do it anyway. So you felt like this is what you wanted to do. Well, yeah. And it's, can I just say, I'll probably just try and focus on the first two verses. Okay. no script though hey he's got to have it in his memory no did you miss it earlier he was like I definitely need the script but it was all about we had to try to remember it though right

that was the original you've nailed the first line do you want to give us a wee taste it and call sesiquelele Africa oh my god that was beautiful that's good and it just turns to custard after that very complex languages they've included in them so anyway that was that dark cloud was hanging over my head and then I got home and I know

or Jen and my wife, she was like, don't forget our friends have left their dog at our house for the day. She told me that 20 minutes earlier. So I got home and I'd completely forgotten that. So the dog was in our house and I'd open the gate. And boom! This dog and my dog

both shot out the gate. Like Greyhound, like, you know, at the start of a greyhound race. It was electric. And then I'm like, okay, what do you do? Because you got two and they run off in different directions. My dog was easy to wrangle because he knew there might be longer term consequences

if he get playing up. So I managed to nab him pretty quickly but I was holding him like a handbag while running down the road chasing this other dog. It was like Zoe Hobbs on steroids on anabolic steroids. And it was there was no consistency

just bang across the road, bang down the others, bang down someone's driver and then it was sprinting towards the main road and I'm like this is... That's scary. And all I'm thinking is I'm going to have to tell these people the dogs been run over.

Ten minutes. Ten minutes running. Other members of the public. me chase the thing and I know they say don't chase the dog when the dog's running away because they think it's a game yeah but what are you meant to do yeah well otherwise you're like we're just letting it run away aren't you yeah I've tried that and I like run the other direction and then he just looks at me and runs the other direction especially if it's not your dog either too maybe they'll chase you but they don't oh my god freedom but does you open the gate

does your dog usually run out no no he's getting wound up she was winding him up bad news But, you know, when you arrive back, you're just puffing and sweating and stress. Like, oh, they could have gone so bad. Yeah. So bad. Did you tell the owners? Yeah. And I told us a dog, and I'm like, dog was like, the dog was like looking at me going,

you're not the boss of me, mate. You're not like real dad. Yeah. Did you tell the Baha men? Because they've been wanting to know for many years. Oh. Who let the dogs out? It was me.

It was you. We can finally close the loop on that one. That's good. How long were you sitting on that? Oh, not too long. 20 years. Yeah, actually, yeah, since the early 2000s.