Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: Chelsea Winter Gets Grilled by Jono + Ben's Flight Shocker

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

On today's show: Were the guys actually that ripped, or was the tiny junk the only thing the sculptor got right? Ben investigates. Dear Megan: A listener two weeks into marriage is already considering divorce over her husband calling her "wifey." How one of Ben's family member ending up concussing someone on a flight...  Chelsea Winter gets grilled by Jono over photo she decided to include. We debate how often you should wash you sheets and a listener reveals her uncle just burns and buy new ones!!! PM’s Official Info Act reply: did he really hear Travis Kelce wants to visit NZ? Producer Grace argues some of Taylor's new songs sound suspiciously like hits from the Jonas Brothers and Lorde...  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The John O'Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better tea. Welcome to the podcast. Well, it's Tuesday, it's a second day back with the three of us after a little bit away. Now, I'd like to see how you're going, because I know you've just come off a three-week journey. Now, you are a man who likes to be on top of life. Now, what happens is when you're away, you're offshore, you're playing in international waters,

you come back and life just really piles up on you. How are you handling it? Because you got back Sunday afternoon, which I thought it's controversial. Well, that was just, yeah, it was a little belate. We maximised the holiday, which was great. But, yeah. I can't do that. Jono and I, that stresses me out.

You're arriving late the day before. I need a day. I need a day reset. It would be nice to have a bit that. Yeah, so there's a lot, there's a lot going on. There's a lot of washing still to get through. There's a lot of things that, you know. Where's your to-do list?

Yeah, the to-do list. Yeah, from having not as much to-do on a to-do list while I was away, apart from the trip stuff, which was like, okay, we've got to organise accommodation and this thing that, you know. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. But hey, it's back to reality, back into it. I've got these new aschwaganda gummies that help with stress.

Maybe I need to bring them for you. Ashwaganda. All the girlies are talking about Ashwaganda. Okay, maybe. Maybe you need some Ashwaganda. You need some mainline asherganda. But that's okay. That's okay.

We'll get me getting... The way your voice goes high pitch. I did find it was really good over there with the time zone. For some reason, I would wake up probably an hour and a half before everyone else over there. Just because probably that's just me. So I would find it quite good to get... go downstairs, find a coffee shop or something, and then sit on my laptop and have an hour.

I was like, I felt like I was more across shit in my life back home on stuff, you know? I was like, oh, this is great. You know, my emails and things like that. I was great. And I'd start the day, and this was about 7 o'clock I'd start the day. Feeling productive. I was like, oh, I'm great. Even the producers are like, what the fuck is all the way?

You're like, guys, I've done a whole bunch of clerical work all morning in France. Yeah, Larissa's looking for people to emcee the netball. There's things going on to that. I'm like, oh, I'm going to board across on this. I did see there. emails coming from me. You don't really think about it. Yeah, it was great. You need to learn how to switch off. But that for me was good. That was when I started my day at some time the family had

slept and I was like I feel good. I feel like I'm led that off here. And I won't look at that for 24 hours. Okay. So that was quite nice. You need to be productive to relax. Yeah. Yeah. To know that was yeah. And later on I was like great. I know that's yeah. And I wouldn't look at it again. But then he's fresh out in 24 hours. I would have been about an hour. I'm going to go, what's going on here? Have you unpacked? Yeah, I, yes.

First thing I did, got the door. Oh, I have to unpack straight away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before I even sit down. Yeah, oh, the family would just, you know. Sometimes suitcases linger around for a way. No, no, no. Because then every time you look at it, you feel stressed.

It needs to be done and cleared straight away. Yeah, and the kids too, they were like, oh, you know, and it was hard to go back into school and, you know, so they're like, oh, I want to see, you know, can I see such and such a friend? Can they come over and help me unpack? On Sunday. I'm like, they're never going to help you unpack. I knew it.

I knew it. They knew it deep down, is it? It's Sunday afternoon when you got home. Both kids had a friend over helping them unpacked. I was like, well, to be honest, their unpacking took about five. I'd, like, I'd back you 19 times. I'd unpacked, I'd got to put washing on, I got the supermarket, I'd walk the dog. I'd be exhausted, I don't need people in my house.

And then at 9 o'clock that night, the kids are like, oh, we're still unpacking, I guess, because you had friends over. But anyway, it was, yeah. Oh, yeah. So a lot going on. A lot going on for me, but anyway. Good luck, good luck. It'll teach you a couple weeks to really go. I'm back in.

to the game. Yeah, not quite there. Not everything needs to be done straight away, Ben. Just chill. And then my poor wife, it was her birthday yesterday as well, too. So it's like she really got a really half-hearted birthday from everyone too. No money, no time, shit to do. We've had a lot of stuff going on, mate.

I'll pack you back, yeah. Happy birthday. Handshake at the door and cleared a couple emails for her. Don't say that. Did you take her up for dinner? No, mate. We did that for three weeks. Did you give her a kiss on the list?

I'm a handshake, a good or solid, a handshake, one of those handshakes with your look in the eye and you're not, you're like, I trust this person. Oh my God, hot. And they'll leave my back. That's right, it was one of those. That'll do my washing for me. She was to sleep on the couch about 8.30 as well.

So I wake her up, go, we've got a cake for you. How many years have you been married? Yeah, a long time, yeah. Yeah, okay, I can't wait for that. Yeah. Hey, we did just go over, like, we just, mate, we just been over 21 days. I was like, yeah. I was like, jeez, that's more than we've ever done before.

Oh, so you can't kiss around the lips. You've just been to Europe. You don't get a kiss. She's too much romance for three weeks. That's right, man. Yeah, exactly. All right, well, join the podcast, actually, speaking of which, Ben discovered something about ancient statues on his travel.

John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hit. Given the Harbour Bridge some grief, you know, before. It's a bit of a... But, you know, it's, yeah, like, I had just come back from, you know, a couple weeks away in Europe and I keep banging on about it but it does kind of open your eyes to all the rest of the world and how young New Zealand is it really is in the grand scheme of history

we're a very young nation do they have bridges that close when it gets windy no you think of what the Coliseum was built in like 72 AD or something you know like it's wow it's fall into pieces and it could do with a bit of a reno well yeah yeah yeah actually that's not a reason it closed it I think it was the residents local residents so the noise was too loud for the stadium so they're like we're going to shut this thing down so they're like can we just have five fights a year Five beheadings, please. And they were like, oh, okay, I guess you're going to have five. Keep it down after 9.30, though.

It's good for the local economy if you get more beheadings in. But it's pretty incredible. Four beheadings, one whipping. Yeah, get a roof on it. Pretty incredible how they built that. Like a stadium. Like, we struggle to build stadiums these days. I think about that with the pyramids in Egypt.

You're like, this is just, when you actually cast your mind back to where what it would take to build something like that. If I knew TikTok was available back then, because I'd love to see how they did it. In 15 seconds though But one thing I did notice going through there Because there's a lot of We didn't obviously have phones Like you say TikTok So you know there's paintings

And the Mona Lisa or you know Small A Yeah it says small And it's not finished A4 Yeah like it's not very big A It's on a frame And it's like but it's like

It's like being in a concert It's surrounded by like People were all like trying to get up the front You're like they're not going to do anything She's not going to sing dais or anything like that Did you get up the front? Yeah I felt like you had to You get swept up in the bed.

Yeah, it's been ages getting your way to the front. And then you're at the front and you're like, oh, I am. I took a quick selfie. Are you allowed to take a selfie with it? Yeah, you are now. Yeah, I think it's because it's behind like a glass sort of thing. I felt bad for all the other paintings in the room. Like, oh, bloody.

These amazing paintings and no one's on. Guys, we're here too. We just, yeah. But one of the things as well, you know, there's lots of statues. Like heaps of statues everywhere. And the dudes were ripped back in the day. They were rips. Or were they?

Or were they just like carved to be rips? because they all got abs, they've all got pecks, they've all just ripped. Are you saying that maybe they told the sculptor, hey, can you add some, you know? I don't know. I mean, who's going to verify it? Well, no, they do. They had a very specific thing that they were working towards. That's why all their junk is little.

That's the other thing as well. They've got great pecks, great abs and then very small and I'm like, guys. But like back in the day they thought that was gratuitous to have like a bit, it was gross, to have a big, so they made them all small in the sculptures. Let's go back to those days. Those are happy a days Yeah, like I'm not the first To throw stones at people

But maybe it was the roids They were all wrapped in the eyelids Do you think they got to the end of it though when they made the statues And then the guys are like Oh you could have made that a little bigger Yeah They've focused on my biceps and everything

Add a bit more clay down there thanks Well people see this Nah we'll go away You're like 2,000 years later I'm going through Snapping a photo of us Yeah a guy standing on a fountain It's triveled

And they have beautiful curly hair too And big beds eh like they're from Wellington drinking craft beer but they don't know they've got great abs and stuff. Poor old David, isn't it? Yeah, he's, yeah. Did he say poor little David? Yeah, he's kind of standing there and he's

you know. Did he need to be nude? No, no, unnecessarily. But yeah, you're right. We can't verify if that's actually how David might have been like a blooming donkey and the sculptor stitched. Was that like a filter, you know, back then?

You know, we put filters on photos. But they were definitely doing more steps a day, right? Well, true. And they're not pumping macas and, you know, high sugar content food into their body. So maybe they were ripped. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast, The Hats. That's Natalie and Borla, her 1997 hit Torn, just looking up on that. So I wonder what year that song came out.

But originally it was a Danish song. She did a cover of it. So there go. All legit. Like all above board that she did a cover of it. But yeah, she did it. became the most popular version of that song. Wow.

Well, shout out to the poor Danish person. Yeah, well, they obviously were okay with it doing it, but there you go. Who knew that Torn was a cover? That sounds really cool. You are not going to do that. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I spent five days trying to learn the South African National Land that it was a nightmare.

Took up my life. You're not going to learn the Danish version of Torn. I'm going to. A very niche party trick. Hey, remember that song Natalie and Brulia from 22 years ago? How about the Danish version? I know, I won't do it. I know, I don't, okay.

I had a really embarrassing situation, Ben. I know you've suffered the same fate. It was over the holidays, and I turned up to a friend's house uninvited. Okay, so it was going to be a few of the dads coming over for, you know, a bit of a hangout session. And I got the date wrong by seven days. So I knocked on the door.

The old champagne one. No, I'm not. answer. What day of the week is it? Sunday. Oh. Yeah. You don't want someone coming Sunday if it's not meant to be. What time of the day? It was four in the afternoon. So, and you know what? I was going over there and the oven and I was like, my gut was like, you should text someone. It's so cool or someone. Just go, hey, you know, we're still looking forward.

We're still on for this. And I didn't. I refused my gut instinct because a lot of the time it's just indigestion. So I just ignore the gut feeling. But yeah, and I picked up on the awkwardness as soon as his wife answered the door. And she didn't actually, she went. and oh, you know, oh, because no one likes, back in the day you could turn up to anyone's house uninvited and you'll be welcoming with open arms. Now you don't, now it's like the most people's worst type out. It's actually Sunday 4pm.

I'm not answering any knocks. No, but I had to knock twice. And then I was like, even when I was going for the second knock, I was like, you should get back in an Uber and go, leave it. Anyway, then they feel obligated to invite you in. Oh, what are you doing here? I was, oh, I was just here for the, and then I was like, clearly it's not happening today.

And they're like, no, that's next Sunday. and their kids were running around on the underpants and they were packing to go away as well Oh no But they're like Come, yeah, that's the thing You're here now come in But they really want you to go no

But my mate even popped his head around For the bathroom And he was in his shower He was like, I'm here for the air Nothing more awkward really is it No but that's when you go Oh good I'll see you next weekend

I tried to I tried to Good dry run You know where the house is You know the lay the land But then that because Then you sit down in the couch and you're like, so, how are you guys?

They're not prepared for it. Not you're not prepared for hosting. I'm like, would you like a cup of tea? I know, I was about to say they feel obligated to feed you. Come over here and smash some beers. I'm sitting here with your kid running around in his undies. They can't offer you a beer because then you might stay longer. They don't want you.

The awkward thing was I was like, okay, well, I should let myself. I'll go. And this was after about 15 minutes of awkward conversation. 15 or 15? 15. Oh, thank God. And then I had to, like, just stand outside their house waiting for an Uber, and I could tell they all, like, looking through the windows going, that was sad.

And it was. It was. What did your family say when you got back home? Well, they weren't too glad to see me either. Oh, you were back here. I thought we got rid of you for a few hours. They weren't repaired for you either. They can't meet.

John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Now we've got producer Grace and Gen Z, producer Grace, who messaged something on our group chat, which really did catch all over our attention. And you're having a bit of a debate inside your flat grace. Well, yes. I got to start with the fact I wash my sheets once a week.

And I'm proud of that. That's how my mum told me that is the correct way. And my partner, Jack, he hates it. He thinks we wash it way too much. And he went, do you know everyone else in the flat washes it like once every four night or a month? And my face, I was shocked. Once a fortnight, once a month. Yeah.

And so I think it's all age and stage of life, really. You know, there's probably a period in your life where you're comfortable, you know. marinating away in month-old sheets. Oh, I've never been like that. No, but then I think New Generation. Look, I'm in Producer Grace. Probably you at that age. They drink less.

They have better hygiene. I'm just a better version of you, John. She's what? You're 20? 24. 24, yeah. Do you know what was irking me about producer Grace yesterday after the show? She was like, I went to a party with a whole bunch of millennials on the weekend,

and they just don't bite back. I was punching them all day long and they don't have a backbone. Millennials just don't tend to stand up for themselves. You know what? You know what it is? Grace, I thought about this when I was driving home. It's millennials going, I hardly get out, and I'm not going to waste time and energy on some jumped up 23-year-old

forcing her opinions down my throat. And they're probably like, I can't be bothered. I've got people I want to hang out with, and I don't want to interact with this young, arrogant, you know? Whoa, wow, wow. What? It just could be arrogant. You're not arrogant. No, we've already had that time to argue, and now you're just like,

can't be all over again. So the argument now, if I can bring it back to the original argument. This was me. This was you guys. I want to know how often people wash their sheets because I thought once a week was the normal when I'm young but I don't know what So you're right when I was flatting I don't know how often

You live and you live in the moment British Grayness is flatting That's what I'm saying it's as you get older You like you commit to those kind of things So now I wash it once a week But back then I don't think my boyfriend at the time Ever washed his sheds Okay I'll wait 100 of the hits

I can't even. I can't look at that. Because I suppose we want extremes for some radio content, don't we? Okay, who doesn't wash their sheets for the longest time you haven't washed your sheets? Yeah, who's doing it like monthly? You know? That's a long time. Yeah.

Considering your sweat, are your sweat a litre per night? Thank you. Do you? A litre? Yeah. Where does that go? I think that's a fake fact. Yeah.

No, I'm going to, no. You can't get spouting them. He just said, don't bite back, but you're bitten backs right away. I'm arrogant. It's what I do. You're not arrogant. I apologize for you. But I do know that your pillow gains weight, doubles in weight over a year.

No, you do not typically sweat a lighter fruit of night. God damn AI, fact checking my ear. You know, there's a time in radio you could say whatever you want, no one to question it. But wait, just a quick question. When you were washing your sheets once a month, would you wash your pillowcase every week? Because that's your face, that's your sweat and your goodies. You wash the sheets and the pillowcase. One month?

Oh no, at the same time, like once a week, at the same time you wash the shit. Once a week seems like the right thing to say, I would say. But hey, maybe I'm wrong here. 0,800 the Hits. Phones are blowing up here. Okay, let's get it. How often should we be washing our sheets? It is producer grace arrogant?

Those are the things we need to get to. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. We're kissing into a debate over how often you wash your sheets. It really is blowing up the text machine. It is here, producer grace. She's a once a weeker. And as a young people, you did mention Megan.

They're a better breed of human being now, the young ones, aren't they? It feels like generally overall. Don't drink as much. Particularly, I feel like a lot of, you know, a lot of girls, a lot of women, a lot of cleaner than a lot of guys, too. And that's always probably been the way, if I can generalise. You can generalise. But I love the hand sanitiser, so maybe I'm the norm.

Yeah, but it does give you good hope for the future, doesn't it, this generation coming through. But, 0,800, we're after extreme sheet washing. Longest times, you haven't done it. There's some people who, some would go years. You know, I have friends that would go years. And Martha, morning Good morning

Longest time not washing your sheets Martha I do mine every two weeks Two weeks, okay Okay How's this? Did you know you sweat Nine litres per night

How does that sit with you now Martha? No, you don't You don't I think under extreme conditions Maybe you've ever wrapped up in a duvet In the Sahara Desert Maybe that would happen I've got grandchildren

And they say yes we've had our bath And then the next month We go in their bed and you check their sheet and you're like, you little shit, you're bloody watch. So you're on a fortnight, Ray Jean, that seems the reason.

What about the, you know, the duvet cover? You know, if you've got sheets down, and you feel like you can leave that a little longer, if you've got sheets and pillowcases, right? Yeah, top sheet and stuff like that in the bottom sheets. Mary, and we're after the most extreme length of time you haven't washed your sheets. Yeah, so I'm like,

I'm a once a week. I used to be a once a week changer, but I think it comes down to how, when you wash, because I just always thought, you know, people that wash it in the morning and take take all their growing to bed, you're going to change your sheets a bit more often,

but obviously that's not the case. That's true. You know, a lot of people who do like showering before beds so they're getting in clean to a clean bed. That's the one. Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't have to change my sheets as often, but it's really I'm a clean person at night.

Yeah. All right. I don't you get up to hanky, of course. I think he's a bit messy, didn't it, Marion? Marion's a workhorse. Yeah. That's right. Good on.

Good on, you, Mary. Have a good one, mate. I appreciate your call. Let's get Joe on. Welcome, Joe. This isn't you, but your uncle. Yes. He burns his sheets once a month and goes to bed bath and beyond and buys a new set.

He burns his sheets. Yeah. He uses a laundromat to use his washing, and he figures that, oh, bug of that is too much hard work to put the sheets in the washing machine. so he burns them and then buys a new set. Isn't it hard to pour gasoline over sheets and set them on fire? Where is he burying them? He lives rurally, so he just chucks them out in the big fire pile and burns them.

These are a tremendous white, and burn these sheets. I'm done with them. They're like, okay. Not the blankets. Not the blankets. Oh, sorry. Not a back of why, silly me for suggesting that. It's not a monster.

Oh, that's brilliant, Joe. Mel, we'll take the last one with you. You work at university. There must be some shocking. sheet washing regimes going on there? Yeah, definitely. Yep, there's quite a few I've seen don't wash their sheets for the whole year.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that would have been my boyfriend. Yeah, it's pretty gross. Kind of wrecks the bed, to be honest. Yeah, I bet. They start to form a personality after six months, so imagine those sheets. Hey, we'll appreciate you, cool.

Yeah, well, a huge range there. I think what weekly sounds around about the norm, but hey. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast, the hits. A few bills that I would like to disappear. One, you're taking the family away on a trip of a lifetime is made of a bit of a bill that I would like to have paid off. But we had a shocker.

Like one, you know when sometimes things keep going? And as a family, things get going wrong in one particular thing. And it just gets worse and worse. One particular flight, we were flying and we're flying in Greece. And my daughter, Sienna, was looking for her seat number. And she sort of had her head down sort of ducked underneath, looking as she was walking down the plane. The air stewardess popped her head up

from a seat, bang, headbutt, bang, straight away. And, yeah, and both of them. It's very hard to recover for those moments. Did she learn, did Siena learn sorry in a new language? Well, I don't know. This was the lady moments after. Now, she was doing the safety demonstration.

Now, listen to how fast, I don't know if she talks as fast all the time in Greek, but let's have her listen to this or was the head of drink. She's on open. I'm like, the pastime she'll have, and the same time.

All these are new these devices and they're getting the telephone. She's on fast forward mode. She's on three arrows, you know, when you're watching. I'm like, wow, you're really, maybe it was a head injuries.

Yeah, so that happened at the end later, the same lady I was trying to make conversation and they were having a meal and they had that pork. It was like gyros and I was like, and I was like, how do you say this?

You're pork gyroes. Guyroes. And yeah, and she was like, pork. That's how you say. I was like, oh no, I get the pork part. I was just wondering about that. I was trying to make conversation.

She's like, oh, excuse me. One of your family measures is concussed me. So not in the mood for gyro banter. Trying to make things a little worse. And then I went to the bathroom and then came back. And a blanket that I thought was mine turned out to be the lady next to me. And I was pulling my blanket over and I was taking the blankets off there. I'm like, that's not a good look as well.

You know, me, welcome back. You just like, get off this plane, please. Yeah, exactly. So I might not be welcome back overseas. Do they smash the plates after serving the food in the plate? Oh, gosh. That would be quite a good tradition, wouldn't it? The plane would be like, man, our plate budget is through the roof.

Maybe we can wash these plates, not use it, but yeah. Surely there's a better way. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Kelsey Winter, she won Master Chef. Now she's one of our most prolific and best authors in the country. She's bringing out another, she's got another cookbook, Chelsea Winter, Nourish. and she joins us in the studio right now.

Chelsea, great to have you here. What's your favorite recipe from the book? If I have to pick one, probably the one I made last night, or yesterday for my kids when I came up to Auckland, is chicken pie 2.0. So everyone knows about the chicken pie, the OG. 1.0. Yeah, in my first cookbook at my table, because that's kind of like what got me famous. This is the more nourishing, but just as delicious version. But it is so tasty and so easy and so delicious.

I had a mouthful and I was like, damn, I'm actually quite good at this. I love that. I love it, yeah. Do you get, like, I was going to say, do you get nervous when people come over and they want to eat? You know, or you're at that stage now, you're like, I'm comfortable that I can make an adequate meal for these people. Mate, I don't have anyone over for dinner. I have my kids and that's about it. They are my toughest critics and are the only people that have ever rejected my food.

And I tell you what, this is why I've created the book. And I was like, if I'm finding this heart and I'm a cook for a living, what the hell is everybody else doing? I need to make a book with nourishing food that gets eaten that's easy to create on a busy weeknight so parents can feel like, okay, nailed that. Tell you what, never disappoints, fish fingers. Never, never disappoints. I didn't put a recipe for those.

Next book, mate. Open the box, put the oven on. Fish 3.0. Yum, and finger four. Everything in moderation, I'm a big fan of that. You're right, though, because, like, I enjoy cooking, and I do, like, cook a lot of things, but it's really hard to cook for kids

because I can make them even a pizza from scratch and they're like, I don't want that, exactly. McCain does it again, mate. Every time. Chelsea's prudging. What's the worst thing that you have eaten? You mean like the naughtiest thing? Yeah, you're like, I can't believe as a, you know, respected.

He really wants you to say you eat like a frozen pizza. Oh, shh. Yeah, I mean... Would you do a frozen pizza? Not frozen, though, probably. I do pizza hut stuff crust. I probably wouldn't, like, I could just, why would I get a frozen pizza if I can just buy a freshly made pizza?

But yeah, I mean, I'm not averse to takeaway. It's like I will go to McDonald's every now and then and get like if I'm travelling somewhere and get like an Angus combo or something like that. Do you? Okay, that's good to know. You're one of us. Well, I mean, you know, it's not like I'm eating it every day, so what's the problem? Okay, you're not one of us.

I saw there was sushi in there. Now, I've tried to make sushi with my daughter before, and I thought it was all right. These guys made me take it to the sushi shop across the road and the guy said it was a little watery. So what am I doing wrong? Is it mean? It was drinking.

Not draining the rice? Hey, this is my daughter and I. I worked on it together. First attempt, right? I mean, the Japanese, they've worked on this for years, you know? Like, this was my first attempt. It wasn't that watery. It was just a little moist, more moist than so.

I'm concerned. Okay, alright. I'm sure when the Japanese started out there had a few years of saturated sushi. You know what I mean? They've probably honed the recipe. by now that's online everywhere. I think the fact that you just did that with your daughter and you made sushi, that says everything. That's very cool.

That's what we need to be doing more of. Yeah, you're right. It's probably one of those things that a lot of those recipes you can do with your kids, right? You get in the kitchen and spend some quality time. Yeah. And so kids know where their food's coming from and what the ingredients are and how they work together and, you know, I mean, they're more likely to potentially eat it if they've helped making it. Now, you're a number one selling author.

Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. It's a huge achievement. You know, a bloody J.K. Rowling. You're our Nijella. No, jelly is probably a better reference. I'll take J.K.

Now, I've flipped through the book, and there is amazing pictures of very tasty food here. Now, I understand that you've got a certain number of pages to fill. Okay? Now, there's some that I'd like to point out, where I'm like, that's just a photo of a broth in a pot there. What do you got against my broth? Yeah.

I mean, I'm sure the broth's lovely. Well, it's delicious. But there's just a photo of a bit of mayonnaise in a jar. It's handmade a only. And that is not a jar, that's a bowl. And homemade aol. I'm sorry. Have you ever had my homemade oil ali before?

Have you made the 10 second aoli from my website? 10 seconds. Oh yeah. There's a jar of jam there. That's homemade chair jam. That is absolutely delicious. And a piece of toast. That's homemade Nutella.

It's true though, and it is a piece of toast. You pull back one of the shot and this is Chelsea Ewerve of empty jar of the tella. looking guilty. I mean, you don't have to listen to culinary advice from fish fingers over here. To me fair, he is on the basics section. Yeah, but that's good. But that's the beauty of it. Because, you know, you've got all those things covered.

Even Jono, who would like your microwave Kranskies could actually make some of these things. Cheeses. Oh, double cheese. Thank you very much. Yeah, nah, you've got issues. Hi, well, Chelsea, thank you very much for your time. Lovely to meet you And congratulations on all the success

Thanks guys Jono Ben and Megan The podcast The Hats It's pretty cool that Teddy Swims In the country As you just said in the news before In Christchurch tonight

In Auckland later in the week Performing fresh off the NRL final So great to have him back in the country He's really like his fashion games Leveled up Have you seen him? I saw him wearing a huge denim jacket With no like

It had gaps And you could see his shoulders Yeah I was like this is pushing the fashion boundaries I was like damn swims The other day looked like he'd gone on Catmandoah and just, like, put his head to the top of a tent. And then wore a tent. It looked like that, you know, kind of, you know.

John and Ben, on fashion. But fashionable. I would love to see you guys at, like, a Paris Fashion Week. Yeah, it was just, it was just embarrassed. It was just after I left. I think they kicked me out just beforehand. They're like, mate, you can't be here. You had all your costumes, too?

Just missed it. A Mona Lisa costume doesn't quite work in Paris Fashion Week, apparently. Wander down the red carpet, like the Eiffel Tower. But I reckon you reach a certain level of fame. Swims is obviously hugely successful where you can just wear whatever you want It's a confidence thing You wear whatever you want

But you know he could wander down the road in a wheelie bin And people would be like fashion Yeah I wandered down the road to win homeless Ben I need to make an apology to you yesterday You did return from France As you just mentioned School holidays

And you returned with a gift And you gave us all miniature bottles of French hand sanitiser Lee hand sanitiser Yeah with French I mean I was hoping for a beret or something But you know that's okay Hey, I just thought something practical, something romantic from the city of romance.

It does smell fancy in the house. In the moment, it felt underwhelming, like an insincere, panic, last minute gift. And I don't think we hit our disappointment. Oh, no, but to be fair, like, I got nothing from, you know, you brought us nothing back from Parmy. Just dreams. You know, I don't know where this thing comes from. But I want to apologize to you, because yesterday, the hand sanitizer, I use at least half a dozen times. The kids used it.

Probably the most practical gift I've ever received from anyone returning overseas. You're on the hand sanitizer bandwagon. Well, you know, when it's there, you just use it. Jump on board. Yeah, no, so I want to thank you. Like, you know, people used to bring you back bottles of alcohol. This is just the same sort of thing. It's in a miniature.

Are you drinking it? A miniature version. He used it six times yesterday drinking it. That's what happened. No, well done. You might have redefined the holiday gift there, my friend. Maybe. Maybe what you should do.

John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The Hids Taylor Swift's got a new album out now, don't they? Don't they? Doesn't she? And we've got our own little bit of exclusive Taylor Swift news.

Yeah, there's something we've been working, well, I say we've been working on behind the scenes, something we've given a hospital pass to our producer Troy. Taylor Swift, a few weeks ago, there was some news story, wasn't there, involving our Prime Minister. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon when Taylor Swift and Travis

Kelsey got engaged. He put out a video on social media saying, hey, New Zealand, great place to get married. Have to listen. Well, Taylor and Travis, a big congratulations on this fantastic news. Getting engaged is such an exciting time. Now, I know you might not be thinking this far ahead, but there would be no better place in the world than to have the wedding here in New Zealand or even your honeymoon. And then we heard the next day in the media, right, Troy, that he'd heard, Christopher

Luxon had heard through a friend that Travis Kelsey had seen it. Yeah, he's got a mate who's in business with. Travis and apparently Travis had told that mate to tell Luxon that he wanted a passport. Yeah, and so I thought it was quite funny the fact that, you know, it would offer this and you know, you know, and yeah, give me a passport

and something. And we went, there's too many people like, there's too many like... Oh, I heard through a friend that sisters, cousins, brothers said that Travis Kelsey was into it. Yeah, we needed evidence. It didn't stack up for us. And so then we said, well, we need you to lodge an OIA, an official information act. Now this is what the press does. I'm gathering if you're in

parliament your phone and everything's just fair game for the for the media and public consumption is yeah well yeah i think you're right you can apply right you can apply it's like a 27 page document so that's why we said we gave troy a hospital pass he did the 27 pages of paperwork to get this listen you haven't been on the show for terribly long yet troy but just you know just sometimes we just say stuff and that's fine and you just move on you don't act they have to follow through with everything okay well i've learned that now i put the request through. It got bounced from department to department. I think

it went through four departments. What were you asking for? A transcript of the text. I just said, we would like a receipt of communication, screenshot or otherwise, between Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his friend who claims to have heard from Travis Kelsey. And I put claims in quotations.

Also a bit snarky. Yeah, it claimed and what came back? What came back? It went through three different offices. So think about the time and effort that this request is caused the government. Taxpayer money. Taxpayer money.

I don't say that. And while you guys were away on the 22nd of September, I got a reply. Dear Troy, here we go. Official Information Act request, in brackets, receipt of communication between the Prime Minister and his friend of Travis Kelsey. Oh my God, that's so stupid.

Do you reckon how many bureaucrats are like, I can't believe I'm wasting my time with this right now? They have to, though. Yeah. Thank you for your official information request, 1982, the Act request received on 2nd of September 2025. You requested, and then there's their entire

transcript of my request. The information you have requested is not official information under the Act. Oh. What's he hiding? What is he hiding? How we're going to get to the bottom of it? Oh, yay, oh, aye.

Step aside, Paddy Gow has got issues. Yeah. The communication reference in the media reporting was received by the right Honourable Christopher Luxon and his private capacity. not in his official capacity as Prime Minister. As such, no official information is relevant to your request. He's hiding something.

He's hiding, he's hiding, okay. It's a big claim. I didn't see receipts. Now you need to get us Luxon. Now you need to get the Prime Minister on. He's got some questions to answer. We need to go direct. We need to go direct in a personal capacity.

We'll do a hit job on him. Get him in here under another thing and then we'll just bloody bomb, ambush interview. Jonathan? You could have the secret service in here. Yeah, don't say that. Don't say that. Not like a, literally, like a... interview, basically.

Oh, okay, go on. Yeah, okay. And he'll be like, I can't believe you've done this to me. I'm like, where's the tags? You know, yeah, we'll go hard. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hits. Dear Megan.

Someone has slid into the DMs again, Megan. This one. Mm, it strikes are called with me, but we'll get to this afterwards. I can't believe the timeline on this. Yeah, well, yeah. Dear Megan, I've been married for two weeks, and I already want a divorce. It's not that he's done anything wrong. He hasn't cheated.

There's not been no big fight or anything. It's just that living together as husband and wife has made me realize I don't actually like him that much. When we were dating, everything felt fun and romantic, but since the wedding, it's as if the rose-tinted glasses have fallen off and I'm seeing his habits in 4K. He chews loudly, leaves wet towels on the floor,

and insists on calling me wifey in public. I thought marriage would make us feel more connected, but instead I feel trapped. My friends say I'm just adjusting to married life but I can't shake the feeling that I've made a huge mistake. Is it normal to feel this way so soon or is two weeks enough to know it's not right? It does seem quite quick.

A fortnight, yeah. Usually that hatred grows over 10 years. You get to the stage, you're like, oh, those things are working me, you know. A marriage is just a contract to eventually just But it tolerates someone else's quirks and annoyances over a long period of time. Two weeks. Now, I feel like, I don't know, maybe if you're older in life and you're like feeling

like time was running out, you know, and you would go, okay, no, I'm not going to stick around. You know, maybe second or third marriage. You're like, I've been through this before. But in this case, maybe it's the first marriage, maybe. Yeah, I think it does kind of sound like the first marriage. Because I was like, maybe if it's, you know, and you're like, I know the signs, it's not going to work.

Maybe then you can pull put in. But I'm really struggling to get there after two weeks. If she's at this point after two weeks, obviously something's been happening a long time leading into this point. And that's what I'm thinking. Maybe she thought marriage would fix everything. Also, speaking from my experience, if you don't know I've been married twice, the first time around. I kind of knew. I kind of always knew.

We've spoken to people who went to your wedding and they're like, we knew. The guests knew at the wedding, but they didn't say anything to you. My parents knew. Well, you wouldn't know, would you? And so I think to me... I wouldn't do this, by the way. Hey, have a good day, man. To me, this sounds like these are the little excuses that she's using,

but deep down she just knows she doesn't want to be with him. That feels a lot like how I felt. Gotcha. Okay, so in this instance, you're saying maybe go with your gut, but even after two weeks? Or is that still... Why, I knew wedding day. So two weeks after...

Oh, right. So, okay, so... Did you break it off with him? Yes. Eventually. But then it was kind of... mutual and no

no okay what a monster no but this is a theory if you're not happy if you're not happy you're not going to make the other person happy yeah I agree

you know the best person of yours version of yourself yeah and you're not giving that to them and so they're not they might not know it at the time

they're not going to be happy about it but they'll eventually they'll realize it was for the best yeah and he's driving as well yeah

look at the sickeningly romantic perfect marriage you're in now yeah and the one wonderful kids that you do have and you know as well and the family you have you know and so i think it sounds to me like maybe you if you thought about it beforehand maybe you would have probably felt the same way can ask you a question what were the signs for you you might be able to give some tips to this lady um i just don't really think i knew what um real love was and like a lot

of things irked me a lot of things irked me and it's like if if you'll it doesn't sound like They lived together beforehand. Oh, 100 of the hits. So maybe that would have been a good idea. 4487, those are our numbers. You know, our text, you know, our phones. We'd love to get you involved. Megan, yeah, I feel like you're leaning to it.

You've convinced me that, yeah, okay, have two weeks. I thought it was quick, but maybe it's like, you know, you know. Is she saying I don't really like him that much after two weeks of marriage? I'm like, ah, the signs are there. John O'Bennon and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Poldy there, and he was at the Singapore Grand Prix over the weekend, and a great moment of live TV, right?

So Martin Brundle's the guy who does like the pit lane chats with all the celebrities. It doesn't always go well. It looks like, honestly, every time I've seen the guy do he's just wondering. He's like me, like wandering around the microphone going, hey, gillow, mate, what are you up to? Like it's a fiasco. And I'm like, this is international TV, Martha Brundle. But it's quite entertaining. There's all sorts of celebrities.

Yeah. People he does know, people he doesn't know. But obviously they said Lewis Capote is over there. Go see him. And his defence, they would have said he's there. Go on find him. And he went up and the guy did look similar to him. But it turned out was his brother, Lewis Capaldi's brother, next to Lewis Capaldi's brother,

next to Lewis Capaldi. Lewis, wonderful to see you. Sorry, you're his brother. Sorry, sorry. He said he's got a cap on. My, and I'm, yeah, how are you? How are you both? Nice to meet you, big fun.

Yeah, we're good to see you too. Nice to meet you, big fan. Because then Lewis turns up and he's laughing away. They both took it. To be feared of Martin Brundall, he did look a lot like Lewis Cook. Because it comes from the same genetics and he just had a hat on. That's right. And then at the end there's a great moment.

We put it on the Hits Breakfast Story as well, where Lewis Capote went to shake his hand and he'd already moved on and Louis Capote just shook his own hand, awkwardly, because no one else went out for the handshake. Oh, Lewis. Right now, we don't need to sort that relationship out. We need to sort out another one. Someone slingy DMs, Megan?

The message says they've been married for two weeks and they already want a divorce. He hasn't cheated or done anything wrong, but the little things are irking her. She feels like the rose-tinted glasses have fallen off and she's seeing all his habits in 4K. quote, including the fact that he calls her wifey in public. She doesn't like that. Do you know, when you know, you know? That's the question.

Well, yeah. Then this is back to you, Megan. I know you've been through, you just shared your story of your first marriage. But the wedding presents, they wouldn't have even finished opening all of the wedding presents. She's thinking about scarpering.

Now, people asked you for their wedding presents back from your first meeting. There was more than, about five people were like, oh, can we get the wedding presents back? And we got divorced, like it was almost two years when we were together the wedding presents

were open and well used I know my friend Ben he would have been one of those people if he was at your wedding and look do you know what I'm kind of like

at odds with a lot of people a lot of people are saying like true love is the perfect acceptance of an imperfect person that's from Amy Turner on our Facebook people are saying two weeks you're just in panic mode

you realize that it's not easy anymore a lot of people are saying well marriage is tough but for me I'm just like two weeks in and you're saying you don't like him I think the signs were probably there for you beforehand and maybe marriage shouldn't have happened

At least give it three weeks Well let's go quickly to some calls And see if they can change our minds Carol morning what would you say if this was your best friend If you're not happy get out Yes Carol It does sound like they didn't maybe live together beforehand Except when it comes to supermarket goods

You've actually got to buy before you try You can't go help yourself get rapes and stuff, can you? No, you're right. That's fair enough, Carol. If you know, you know. But potentially her mistake, and there's going to be a lot of fallout with friends and family once this decision's made if she goes through with it, potentially she could have made this before the wedding. Yeah, that would probably be nice for his sake, I guess, and everyone else support presents.

But anyway, less about them. Air fry has been. Yeah, exactly. Fiona, morning to you. Good morning. How are you? Good morning. What would you say here?

Okay, I think that, like, I was married for 30 years, and in my opinion, two weeks is too early. There may be a lot of tension from, you know, try over from getting married and all of the pressure and stresses of all that, so there's probably a lot of financials. But even if you make the call, right, the law requires you for two years to still remain married. Is that right? Yeah, you can make it official, you're right.

You can separate. Yeah. I actually don't know that particular rule. Yeah, I was married for 30 years before I decided we both parted away. And for someone I probably should never have married. But I knew the guy since I was 18. So, yeah, we knew each other for five years and traveled and lived together. What year did you realize?

Uh-oh, this isn't for me? To be honest, I can't give you an exact answer on that. We just rode the ups and downs. and went on and it wasn't really till later on till the kids were a lot older I'd probably stay to the kids right

well a lot of people do and you're right there is ups and downs in any of your relationship you see that with your parents and now they're happy they're in your relationships

and it was hard on the kids but then the same time I'm always happier if they're happy doing it for them in the long term that's what you need to remember yeah great text four for eight seven

somebody who's actually did this after two weeks they left their first marriage so they have it they said do it if you're not happy go I'm not saying get divorced, do it. I definitely recommend couples counselling

because it teaches us all to communicate and then you'll find out maybe if you like them or not. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast, The Hits. I think Taylor Swift dropped the full album, The Life of the Showgirl last week, end of last week, and a movie as well, and producer Grace is in right now. Can I just disclaimer before we go here? I did listen to more of it yesterday,

and I do have a couple of favourites. I don't want everyone to think that I hate it, but I just thought that it was. It wasn't maybe as good as I was like. Because there's been some sort of moodyer sort of albums of hers. I thought it had some great pop songs and stuff quite upbeat. It was cool. Listen, it's not often you listen to a whole bunch of music and love it first time.

No. They have to grow on you. And a whole album. Who listened? Where's the last song is the whole album? There's no like bangers on it. Some good ones. I thought there were some real good ones.

But yeah, anyway, producer grace. What's your? My head's like going back and forth with you guys arguing. My life is spent on TikTok per the euse. And TikTok has been calling Taylor out. Oh, really? The song sounding like other songs. I did hear the one about the Jonas Brothers.

You're going to get to that one? Yeah. If John I play the first bit of audio. This is Life of a Showgirl. Yep. Made her money being pretty and witty. They gave her the cheese to this city. It sounds a lot like.

Good song from Jonas Brothers too. The cool Jonas Brothers. Life of a Showgirl. Do you sound familiar? Those are the same cool. Aggression. There's only so much music. That's what I keep thinking as well.

Even if it's going to sound like something at some stage. But she has come for other people in the past. Olivia Rodriguez and stuff as well. I think it was sour. There were two songs in that that sounded a bit like Taylor's songs. And they came for her and got writing credits or co-writing credits. So if she can do that to other people, I feel like other people have the right to do it to her. So if you play the second minute audio.

This is Wood. This is Wood. This is Wood. This is Word. Oh, that song. It's funky, eh? Oh, this is Jackson 5. It sounds like that, but also.

Is it? Cheer Lloyd, I want you back. But also Jackson 5. And that sounds like J.5, I want you back. Yeah, no, I want you back too. Can I just say, Grace, you know we have music in our system, eh? You got it off. I like it.

I like it sounds like it. Sorry. It's recorded on a TV screen by our phone. I know, but it was so much easy for me. I was trying to do social stuff for the show. And Megan's like, Grace, loaded this audio. So I was quickly doing it. So don't give me crap for it, Megan.

Did you get like a dicta for it? phone or something out of course but that's okay okay for this last stop okay guys this last one I found out so Megan was like great well but if the audio is the key thing of your argument you at least want the audio to sound gorgeous you normally think you

I'm happy to say I'll only play this when wait let me explain this Megan was like this is my favourite song what's this one called cancelled and I was listening to her and I ran in and I was like Megan cancelled sounds a lot like this Lord's song

Now I'm only going to play this if it sounds like it was recorded from one and a half kilometres away okay Cancel? Great song. But it sounds a lot like this song. Yellow, heartbe.

Wait, wait for it. Red, orange, yellow, flicker beach. Yeah, wow. But music, I mean, we were making music for a long time. And I think it's totally fine to have similar songs. So it's the fact that Taylor's come after other people. So I think other people have the right to come after her. I'm totally fine with it.

There are rules, though. There's certain cool progressions. and stuff, like, that's the same. That is the same. That's the same. People have overlapped them, and they literally blend together. I have no expertise of music, but they sound pretty similar. They do.

I mean, you can't argue that. Even if you couldn't hear it, you can't argue it. And if you're going to sue other people and get writing credits, you've got to expect the same treatment. Yeah, and I think it's fine. They sound the same. No, hate, but they do. We'll find out if that becomes, it becomes a bit of a court case at some stage.