Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: Craziest Career Pivots

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

On today’s show:  How Ben accidentally stockpiled 18 roll-ons. We put Jono through our version of a lie detector test Megan’s dad live-texting from hospital Career pivots: from banki...ng to burgers, radio to cafes, and even forestry. Dear Megan: I found fancy lingerie in the wash that my wife never wears for me… Dr Libby’s tips for managing festive stress, indulgence, and New Year goals. Instagram: @THEHITSBREAKFAST Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & MeganSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The John O'Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better team. Hey, welcome to the podcast. On a Tuesday morning, we're talking career pivots. Uh, yeah, you're going to hear more about that in the podcast. And Tanya, a bit of an overflow caller here. What happened to you?
Starting point is 00:00:16 What job did you go from? Good morning. I went from being a chartered accountant to open my own driving school. Oh, wow. How? How are my son learning to learn to drive? I wanted him to learn as a manual, as us older parents do, because we learned in a manual, realized there were no manual instructors around, and I went, this could be a business opportunity.
Starting point is 00:00:39 So I went and got my instructor's license, bought a manual, bought an auto, branded focus driving school, and here I am. Good on you. So many people have those fleeting thoughts and never do anything with it. It's been amazing. I love meeting people. I've taught a former Braithful player at the other week, How to Drive a Manual. Who's that? Dominique
Starting point is 00:01:01 Kelman Potos He's doing a career pivot at the moment For family reasons Oh wow Wow I really admire people that follow those fleeting thoughts Because most of us are like Nah
Starting point is 00:01:14 That'd be good You give yourself too many reasons Why you know why not to But it's awesome that you did So yeah that's incredible I always wanted to own my own business I just didn't know what it looked like I figured I had set on enough executive committees
Starting point is 00:01:26 To know how to run a business I just didn't know what I wanted to do and this is it. I'm loving it. Good on you, Tanya. I imagine those sheets are nicely balanced. Not balanced enough. Hey, well, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Thank you for sharing. Go and have a wonderful day teaching people how to drive. Yeah, my son's actually sitting his restrict in this morning. Oh, good luck. With you? Because I feel like... No, they're testing us with VPN Dem. Ah, right.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You've trained them well, though. I hope so. Yeah, well, Ben's going through the same thing at the moment. He's getting abused for having an L plate on his car. Yeah, it's not for me. It's from my daughter. But, yeah, I forget to take it off sometimes. People, yeah, people don't.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Bend on my way. Parents can't teach their own kids part of the life. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Yeah, you're right. It's probably one of those occasions, yeah. Hey, good on you, Tanya. You're going to have a wonderful day. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:17 See you. And you guys enjoy the podcast. Yeah. John O'Benn and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Of course, Christmas and the festive season, just a couple of weeks away. 16 days, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:28 16 days, we know a bit of a cost of living crisis at the moment. And Kiwi Christmas staple items at the supermarket, about 16% are more expensive than 20203. And they reckon when it comes to things like Pavlova, if you want to be putting eggs, cream, and, you know, Kiwi-fried on there, they're a lot more expensive than they were two years ago. So, yeah, it's not the greatest. You're nemesis to Pavlova.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You send you straight to the bathroom, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, too much cream. It's a cream on time. Right. It's good, though. It's nice and fluffy and life. I like a Pavlo.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I've never had a bad one. I've never had a bad one, you know? I just seem to eat them around summertime. It's not like, yeah, you know. I just, I'm not, not. I think there's better desserts. You take away my Kiwi card, yeah. Yeah, mate, you can't.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You're going to have to leave. You're going to have to leave. Actually, speaking in the supermarket, it's something that I generally do for the household. It's one of the things I do. I don't mind doing that. But often I will go, you know, and you go around me in shop, and you go, oh, I need another one of those.
Starting point is 00:03:28 you know, when something runs out. Yeah. Which would make sense. I'm not mansplaining how to go to the supermarket right now. The basic structure of why we all go. And I don't know if this is weird or not, but maybe for the last 10, 15 years, Amanda, my wife and I, we've ended up sharing the same deodorant, roll on deodorant.
Starting point is 00:03:42 It's a pretty non-offensive sort of like, it doesn't have much of a smell, but it's not, like a dove, you know, it's pretty... Neutral. Because then you put your cologne or your perfume on over the top. Do you mind if I smell your armpits? Yeah, well, if you really want to. I don't know if you'll smell much at the moment. So it's just, it's quite a neutral sort of like a...
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, it's just like a, it's slightly soapy. Yeah, yeah, it's like a dove sort of thing. My wife and I use it. It sits in the bathroom cabinets, you know, as well. And then I keep looking at it and I go, oh, we need a second one. I put one next to it, you know, so we've got two. Yeah. And then a couple of weeks later, I'll go to the shop and I'll be like, oh, we're down to one, you know, so I'll get a second one.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And then my wife said to me his thing, she's like, would you stop buying bloody deodorant? And I'm like, what? And she showed me, and she'd been putting them away. She only likes one in the cupboard We had 18 Dunst Gators Underneath and this other little cupboard I'm like
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well I didn't know that we're at it It's around the year How sweaty do you think you guys are? She's like Why does he keep my And I was like well because you keep putting them away I didn't know about the secret little spot And the fact that you didn't like two out there
Starting point is 00:04:46 You know because they're not on display for anyone Honestly at your funeral We're going to have to lift his arms up And just roll on you're going to have so much left You're still getting through it We're going to be set for the next I don't know 18 roll on
Starting point is 00:04:56 18 rollouts. I was thinking, why we keep going through? I mean, I don't know. We're sure it. We need to place bets on how long it takes you to get through those. To go through there, yeah. Down underneath, there was 18 of them. I was like, wow, okay, so we're set.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We're set for life. Don't worry about us for the next how many years as well. You go through two a year. You're going to maybe three maybe a year? And I guess I hadn't really been thinking about that at the supermarket. I'd just been thinking, oh, well, there's one in there and we both share it. I'll just get another one as a backup, but she'd be taking it away. I do find it weird that you share deodor is.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, is that weird? Yeah. Is it a bit weird? I think so. Especially roll on, but then I was like, yeah, as I said it. I was like, maybe that is weird as well. I once used your roll on. Yeah, I don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I've used Grace's roll on, but there's a wipe before and a wipe after it. But they kind of reset themselves. I know, but then your juices are like mixing together. They're kind of reset themselves. Like the rolling bits there, so you don't have to imagine. Someone else is like, it's like sweat. I don't know. We just go roll.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Well, now we don't have to, mate. We should have nine. I can have nine and we'll have nine. That's true. So we will come in. I can label mine I can label hers. John O'Ben and Megan
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Starting point is 00:06:33 it goes off here as well even yesterday we had a work lunch for Christmas I was like we'll see you tomorrow Megan or will we you know it's all the mind screwing that goes on what are you talking about I have no idea what you were referring to
Starting point is 00:06:45 so all of us claim that we are not the rogue so it's got to be someone someone has done a good job of lying One of the three of us is definitely the rogue, and we don't know. At some stage it's going to happen, they're going to leave the show. But we thought right now, you know, who's more honest than kids? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Kids, you know, they've got no filter and they tell the truth, right? Yeah, especially my four-year-old son. Basty, Bastian. And he joins us early in the morning. Besty. Hi. Hi. Hi, Basti.
Starting point is 00:07:16 John, I'm being here. We want to know when's mummy going away this week? Saturday? Saturday. Okay. She'll leave me at late, okay. Where am I going on Saturday, baby? Christchance.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, Christchurch. Okay. Is he just making stuff up now? Good invited. Why are you and John are men laughing? Oh, because we're trying to find out if your mum is, oh, it's a long story. Yeah, yeah. Have you heard any conversations between mummy and daddy saying,
Starting point is 00:07:55 oh, mommy's got to go away for work this week? Now, why did you say no? What's that? What's happening here? Why did my dad say no? Why did he say no? Yeah, why did my dad say no? Because I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, are you? Are you? Okay. So has she packed her bag yet? Basty, has she got a bag packed her suitcase? Yep. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's all we needed to know. No, I don't. No, I don't. It's all for the questions, Your Honor. What bag have I got paid? Further questions. It's one of those mic drop moments, isn't it? And the jury's like, oh.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You're like, no, I've got more questions. Bless you. I love you, bet. But who knows if he's still? Who knows? Who knows? Well, we know, but we'll find out this way. Do you want to say anything to John on bed, baby?
Starting point is 00:08:56 I love you. Oh, we love you too, mate. I love you, sweetheart. Hey, well done, you're great. That's exactly what we wanted. See you, sweetheart. Have a good day. A good day.
Starting point is 00:09:09 See you, mate. There's all the evidence we needed, though, Megan. I'm going to cry church. I got my bagpacks. Saturday. Cute evidence that we got out of a basket there. We'll find out. if Megan is the rogue
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Starting point is 00:09:55 And thanks to them, if you can work out where one of us ends up in tech spotted and that location to 4487, you can win $5,000. You're going to enter as many times as you want once you work out with our hour. Yeah, the thrill is, I love the thrill of the mind screwing and manipulation that goes on, not just on air, we're saying. Also off air as well, because we genuinely don't know which person is going to go missing too. So there's all sorts of mind games taking place here.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yesterday we did a pretty amateur lie detector test on Ben Boyce by attaching a heart rate monitor to him. Okay, so I've done a good job of this. But I'm not the rogue. Look, can I just say, I'll put it on record right now. What's the time eight 27 Monday, I'm not the rogue? Not the rogue. Well, if you're not, how did you make such a fiasco?
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'm not the rogue, guys. The heart rate was up to like 120. It just kept beeping, beep, beep, beep. It just kept beeping the heart rate. You kept on talking, you're like, I don't know, no, I'm not the rogue. And then you're like high-pitched voice. Oh no, so the things just kept beeping in the background. I'm not, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So for someone who claims, it was just me, that claims I'm not the rogue, that was not a great advertisement for me not being the rogue. Well, listen, I last campaign I said, yes, I am the rogue, and it was just pure gaslighting in line because it ended up being Megan, who played a magnificent game. Megan. Are you the rogue? Hello, John Owen.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Are you the rogue? I may have gone rogue. Oh, is Megan. We've played the best game ever. So Megan disappeared from the show and ended up in Matamara. That was so fun. Yeah. So one of us is going missing.
Starting point is 00:11:27 We don't know when it's going to happen, but you put Jono up to a lie detector, the same lie detector test with me, registers. Unsanctioned. Yeah. Unsanctioned lie detector. So I've got the heart rate monitor on at the moment. You're a little bit concerned because your heart rate's very low. You're like, it's not making any beats.
Starting point is 00:11:40 No. Either like, we're going to lose you or you're really, really fit. I'm on the verge of flatlining. So, you know, you can ask you. Ask away, and I'll try and remain... It just loves it in a constant state of pretty chill. Yeah, pretty chill. Are you the rogue?
Starting point is 00:11:56 No. Okay, there go. That's all the main question I had. So you're pretty saying it's not you. Are you traveling anywhere this week? Just to and from work. It's two and from work. What I will say is hand on heart.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I am not... The heart that's not really... Well, your heart's not really going. I know, or is it? It's not... Okay, it's this thing actually... Give it to me the nervous energy of me. Put that on your fingers
Starting point is 00:12:20 if it starts beeping. Ben, are you the rogue? I'm not the rogue, Megan. I'm not the rogue. So that would leave you being the rogue. I don't think it's working. Oh, no, he goes. It's beefing for me.
Starting point is 00:12:29 There you go. Are you travelling anywhere this week? Where are you going? Just till and from work. Really? Yeah. Okay. Are you lying to us?
Starting point is 00:12:39 No, I'm not lying to you. Really? No, no. I'm not like, why do I feel? I feel nervous when you put me under the pump. Megan, you check it. Why don't you check it on? I get on.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It was beeping for me. No, it's going to out me as not being very fit. So it's been set. My resting heart rate will not be as good as John. Okay, here we go. Megan Puppas, you were the rogue, and you're claiming that because you have already done it, that you wouldn't be going for a second lap around. I'm not the rogue.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I am not the rogue. Oh, it's beeping. Oh. So I was reading for bed. I just said my heart rate's faster than Chonnos. I'm just a ball of nervous energy, though. That's the thing, yeah. So you'd safely eliminate me from this.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, would you? Well, the two that have been beeping, you and me. Well, based on what, something goes 20 bucks that kept his wear us. Also, you just are constantly chip. You could be the rogue, and you probably wouldn't even know. Have you looked at all your emails? Oblivious to the fact that it could be like, oh, am I going away? When's that?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Unfortunately, someone else organizes all that for the person going. Okay, so, listen, at this stage, it's either Ben or Megan for me. Yeah, text for. Well, yeah, of course that's what you're going to. That's what you've got is. 104-48-7. Who do you think it is? Is it Ben or Megan?
Starting point is 00:13:53 I think it's Ben or Megan. I think it's Ben and Megan. It's definitely not me. John O'Bennon and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Megan, your father keeps messaging you. He's never text you previously. No, he's not a huge texter.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Like, I'll send him a text and then, like, four days later I might get, like, a real simple reply. Right. Okay. So now you're saying averaging. About five a day. Some go up, some go less, all right? Yeah. So he has spent a bit of time in hospital
Starting point is 00:14:21 He's got sore knee I'll spare you the details But You would just show me a video of hospital And Jesus, hospital's depressing Isn't it? I'm getting like blow by blow details Of the public hospital system
Starting point is 00:14:33 He sent me a picture of his afternoon tea Which is some wine biscuits Wrapped in Gladrat It made me sad It just made me sad looking at that biscuit Was it biscuits or biscuit? No, there's two Two.
Starting point is 00:14:45 That's his ration But he gives me he gives me photos of every meal, everything that he eats. Oh, like on Instagram, you know how you take your tasty-looking meals. Here's everything I ate in hospital in 24 hours. Yeah. But like literally yesterday, he's like, oh, come. Get ready with me for hospital?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Maybe I should let him know. He could do that. He said him up with my account so he can post this stuff. Can't wait for my broad beans to grow. I was like, that's great, dad. Have you seen the Lewis Hamilton Dress to impress video? He's really out there. there with his fashion.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Only a few would have to balls to wear that sort of thing. Is Wayne on social media? Is this where he's getting his content from? He might be on YouTube for that, maybe. He's got himself into a bit of a hole. Yeah, that was at 7pm last night. I didn't reply.
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's just like a running stream of consciousness. I'm getting everything that he's talking about. Is he updating you on other patients in the room that he's next to? Yeah. So last night, at quarter to six this morning, I got a full blow by blow of his night, which was very busy. You know the worst thing about hospitals
Starting point is 00:15:49 They come in to do like checks and stuff In the middle of the night So I've got to run down of that Okay Then he said Ross His he had trouble with his catheter bath I know all of these people by name Poor old Ross
Starting point is 00:16:01 Aaron is his nurse Ross is across the way Then there's a Is it Judy The other side of him How's Judy going? How's she recovering? She had a bad night
Starting point is 00:16:11 She fell out of bed the other night Oh Judy But he said he had a A way emergency in the middle of the night but then he said he dropped his crutch on the way so he's like having a hobble to the toilet there was no one there to help him he's very upset about is your mum ray-ray visiting him doesn't sound like it I was very worried about him initially and then she's like god he's annoying he's the worst patient
Starting point is 00:16:35 like he's craving some sort of physical attention or like the passion the single life might be for me ray ray's buddy out of the town and nelson but there is a constant running gag of how he really doesn't like the food and then he sent me a video this is big for him he sent me a video yesterday and he said look I think they've taken the money from the food account and put it into their choir account
Starting point is 00:16:57 they've got entertainment that's lovely I like the guy at the end he just adds an open his own anyway. Just big dogging out the rest of the choir. We're wishing your dad is speedy recovery and good luck to everyone else that we now know by name in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:17:23 John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast, The Hits. I ran into someone at the golf driving range. I had to take my son and his friends there. And when I say I had to take them there, they didn't want me to play golf with him. I just wanted me to turn up and sort of be an ATM machine with legs. Right. Anyway, just and keep a 50 metre distance as well. So I should be a few.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Did you have to stay there the whole time they were playing? I just went and got a bay for by myself, a safe distance away. But they didn't want you to play with them. Well, you know what it's like. You know what it's. I dread this time. It's going to happen, bro. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Sometimes they want you to drop them like 100 metres away from where you're meant to be dropping them. So they can pretend they don't even have a family. It's going to happen. Don't get sad about it now, though. Enjoy the days you've got now. So you've got talking to this guy because there's a food truck. next to the Gulf Bay where they're serving beers
Starting point is 00:18:18 and burgers and all sorts of stuff and the guy's name is Ben he's like hey I listen to you guys on the radio every morning so hopefully Ben's tuned in now and anyway I just started interviewing him as I tend to do with people poor guy
Starting point is 00:18:31 punished him and he said that he was in banking for decades and came to the driving range for he reckons 25 years and the whole time he was saying to himself why isn't there a place where I can drink bar and eat burgers instead of focus on probably hitting the ball further and straighter.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Right. And finally did it. Left banking. Oh, and so he started that up for that reason. Started that up. Ordered a, you know, like a food truck from China. Boom. That's here.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And now that's what he does full time. Huge career pivot. Wow. I really respect people that do a pivot. Amen. I did an adjacent, is that what you'd call it? At the same time, opened a cafe and was like, maybe this will be a fallback if I ever get booted out of radio.
Starting point is 00:19:12 but it was, it's really hard. They bloody tried to, didn't they? They tried to get rid of how to rae. Like a weed. I kept coming back, didn't you? Put some round up on me and I grew back. Now look where she's red her head. The hospital is so hard.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That's the thing. We're so lucky we do this job because doing a real job, man, it's hard. Did you ever consider perverting fully to the cafe? I did until I started doing it. And then I was like, I know. Because you think it's just fun making food and stuff. But there's the whole business aspect. You talk to the IRD so much.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's a real ballache. You have to answer your phone. Why haven't you paid your tax again? Yeah. People are a nightmare. I imagine having to serve people as customers. It would just be... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Organising staff, like have big benders and then say they're sick the next day. You're like, I know what you were doing. I saw it on Instagram. Can't say that, though? Oh, you can't? No, you probably can't, can you? Yeah, so no, that's not for me. You try to career pivot
Starting point is 00:20:15 And it wasn't for you at least you gave me to go Because otherwise you still be sitting there going Can I do that? Yeah, I love trying. I love trying things. I mean you don't carry it on. Our old producer, Caitlin, she pivoted into nursing.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. I was like, that is a hell of a gear change. Doing like this like average jazz job every day and going to something that actually means something We have to concentrate. I'll tell you what, we play at 12 minutes of commercials every hour mate that means something yeah that does mean something you know if you want to do good work for the community is getting these important messages out there's a sail at magnus benro this week
Starting point is 00:20:51 you do admire those people that do pivot friends his brother he was working in tv decided that he there was no one doing like an adventure bouncy castle inflatable course so he bought like the biggest one imported it for trying to put it together designed it and that's what he was doing that what he does now yeah it was like wow because no one else was doing it but i love these people who have the idea and you follow through? You also got to get the family across the line too. How did you get this one across the line? We're going all in on the bouncy cars.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's going to be the longest one in Australasia. You're like, okay, yeah. Is the demand there? Yeah, that's what he's doing. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The hit. Morning, it is 817. We're talking about the biggest career pivots.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Have you gone from one industry to another? You've got to take the gamble sometimes in life, don't you? Although I think the majority of people, I prop myself in that category is you don't get comfortable but you're like there's so much of the unknown isn't there when you take that gamble I like people that do this
Starting point is 00:21:49 and buy them a lot you know because you never know what's out there and you never know that thing that might be your passion could be something else you get focused so much on the job that you're doing you really believe you can't do anything else okay what would you pivot to right now
Starting point is 00:22:02 if you had the chance like and no real worry about money or it's succeeding Just going, I'm going to give that a bash. I always thought, and I've said it for a long time, I'd be really good at mowing lawns. Wouldn't have you on my crew, Megan, the way you mow lawns. I vibe it out. No, we can't have people vibing at my, Jono's lawns and lawn care.
Starting point is 00:22:24 It's not a bad one. Yeah, no, I'd probably do that. Although then winter, the winter months would be a nightmare, though. Like, this is perfect lawnmowing conditions right now. Yeah, well, maybe you're a summertime lawn bar. In the winter, you're like, eh, it's not for you. Ben Boyce's Costume Shop? You can turn your hobbies.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Hobby into a passion? There you go. I'd want to make shoes. Or like design shoes. I don't want to make them myself. No, you've got little children in China to do that for you. Also making my costumes. They're a backlog, all right?
Starting point is 00:22:52 You got them working hard out there, mate. All right. Johan, biggest career pivots. Morning, team. Yeah, no. I actually had four pivots. I started banking, then went to local government and then taught for 36 years. And COVID came, and my wife said,
Starting point is 00:23:09 to help with it, the stress is too much, we're going to buy a rural posty business, and now I'm a rural posty. Oh, my God, never knew this about you, Johan. That is crazy. Were you, Troy was saying you're actually a principal in school, were you? Yeah, yeah, I started off in banking, then the local government, then school, and I was in senior management for 17 years, ended up as a principal for five, and now I'm just delivering beautiful parcels of mail to people.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And out of all of those. careers what was your favorite what do you feel most fulfilled in oh look a teaching was fantastic with students but the system is just broken and so you know there was no real fulfillment for yourself the higher you went in education the worse than got so and covered mucked it up and i'd say what i do now is very simple but it's fantastic because you bring joy to people when they love getting their little parcels. I'll tell you what, when you drop Ben Boyce's costumes off in the little, you know, his Timo costumes?
Starting point is 00:24:14 My little face lights up, isn't that? I need a Santa costume, Ben. Yeah, I can hoagy up. Hey, Johan, no, I did know, lovely. We're learning more and more about Johan every time we talk to him. That's really interesting, mate. Biggest career pivots, Elise. What was it?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Good morning. I was a sign language interpreter who retired two years ago to run a bush crew with my husband. Like a forestry crew Yeah a forestry crew With my knowledge of absolute Zero knowledge of forestry How's that going for you
Starting point is 00:24:48 Well we're still standing Yep everyone's still out in the bush Cutting trees today So I guess we're doing something okay Oh good on you That's awesome to hear Was it frightening making that leap Oh absolutely yes
Starting point is 00:25:00 Have you found any crossover between Sign language and forestry? Like a thumbs up if they're doing a good job Or something like that would work? I think probably just the financial size, doing the accounting and those sorts of things from home. That's probably the only thing. The rest of it, I would admit that on the forestry crew. I have the least amount of knowledge out of anyone there.
Starting point is 00:25:23 That's cool. Good on you. Yeah, well, good on you for taking the day of the week. Yeah, well, good on you for taking that. Do you regret it? No. No, good. He's got to say that.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It's really awkward now if you said yes. I can't pick up on your sides. I'll have the phone. Keep he's coming through. The Hits Everyone, I imagine most households Across the country, flats, whatever have the collection of orphaned socks
Starting point is 00:25:46 that have just somehow ended out on their own. Where do they go? Do they ever come back? I don't know. We have such, we hold such optimism and hope for them that they'll be safely reunited, don't we? We used to have in a flat we had in Christchurch. We had a big sign that said lost sock wall of shame
Starting point is 00:26:04 and we used to pin them to the wall down the hallway. They were, like, shaming them into, like, yeah. Did you ever, like, find the others? Not really, no. Just, you sat out, there was, like, three or four socks when we sat up there. And then we were like, that's a dumb idea, and we took it down. It was quite a novel idea. At a flat, you're breaking away, that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We just keep them stored in the bottom of, like, the washing basket, you know, like the clean washing basket. Sometimes they give multiple cycles, too. Sometimes you're like, whack them in again, maybe they'll find their partner. Just magically reunite. Sock Tinder and it's like, yeah. So I would say we've got about seven that just sit there. And I was like, enough's enough. You know, these have been here for years.
Starting point is 00:26:46 They've called off searches for missing people in less time than we've held on to these socks. It's true. So I just, everyone was out of the house on Saturday and I knew it wasn't the right thing to do, but I just chucked them all in the bin. Right. I chucked them all in the bin, okay? 20 minutes later, the household returns home. I hear someone's out at the bin. Why, who put all the socks in the bin?
Starting point is 00:27:09 It was me. It was me. And then they all returned back into the house. Someone's taking them out of the bin. They're like, don't throw these away. We're going to find them. I was like, we're never going to find them. It would mean years.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Let's just give up on the search. So now they're back in the washing basket. Have you found the pair for any of them? No. Nice. And we never will. And you probably can't really donate, like, single socks or anything I do, can you? And I'm not the type of person is comfortable wearing odd socks.
Starting point is 00:27:35 on either of us. If I wish I was because then we could still make use of them. If there's the same type of sock, I've talked about this before, I'm okay with it. If the same type of sock, it has to be the same type.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So you wouldn't wear a sports sock and a business sock? No, no, no, I'm not that much of a monster. But if it were two sports socks and they were slightly, you know, same type of socks. Would you? If I had the same type of socks, if I had to, not if I'm wearing shorts or something.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You were so fastidious about so many things and you're so particular and then you'd wear two different coloured socks. Not regularly, but if I would, there's ones that we have at home, have different patterns but the same type of socks I'm oh yeah they're okay they're just in the business category
Starting point is 00:28:09 yeah you can do that they're not huge departure from each other so would you wear a navy blue one with the black one if I really had to but not not it's probably not it's far what we should do next year is just have one big sock
Starting point is 00:28:24 amnesty yeah and we get them we gather all the solar socks from the audience and we try and find matching partners for them yeah it's sock tinder like there's something for it You get a match Hey mate this is just the brainstorming No ideas are bad idea
Starting point is 00:28:38 You're not part of it John O'Ben and Megan The podcast The Hats So this is from a husband He has found some red Lacey undies In the wash
Starting point is 00:28:50 As he was doing the washing He says his wife Has usually a Kmart undies kind of girl And so he's never seen these before She never wears anything like it He's kind of wondering Who they're for Where they've come from
Starting point is 00:29:03 he wants to know if it's a red flag I'm saying give the girl a chance because I think if they're like red lacy undies Christmas is coming maybe it's a wee surprise for him a lot of people on Facebook and on the text machine are saying they often wash undies before they wear them
Starting point is 00:29:21 right so if it's a surprise she also wants to be hygienic yeah which you completely understand but maybe give it time maybe give time to see if some sort of surprise comes if she's used she could be having a rebrand of and all the special sections on her body. You know, she's going from Kmart to red and lacy. Just trying to switch things up.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. To feel good about herself. Well, that's the thing. A lot of people have text in that they wear, like, nice matching sets sometimes to make themselves feel good. That's true. I have Kmart undies, and I have nice undies. It just depends on the day.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Also, if you're having an affair, are you going to put the washing in with your general washing in the household, like your knickers? Are you trying to, yeah. wouldn't you be trying to do those yourself and not putting it? Yeah. Rebecca has message saying she's very concerned about the lacy knickers.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Did he use a delicates bag? Because they sound expensive. She doesn't care who they're for. She's like, oh my God, look after them. They're probably very expensive. That's a good concern. It's probably not his main concern, but that's a good concern. You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:21 That bag that I always forget to use too. What is it? I've never used. I don't know. To be honest, I don't. Have you put it in the delegates bag? I'm like, yeah. I think it's supposed to stop
Starting point is 00:30:32 them from getting tangled up another thing is it. Oh, it's stretched. Protect the lace. Yeah, I've never used it. I'm with you, Ben. I do try to use it, but sometimes I do forget.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Another text here, maybe he's just never noticed her wearing the lingerie. You know, maybe he could be more attentive. And this is the first time he's just noticed them. We've got loads of texts, loads of messages coming through, right? Yeah, 4487 as well.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Red undies don't equal red flag. I reckon she's just trying to feel good about herself. There's nothing wrong with that. Someone said, she probably tried them on wore them and was like, these are someone come to wash them and put them in the back of the drawer. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Which is what always happens. Are you across all of Amanda's range? I wouldn't say, no, I wouldn't say so. But then, I guess if this has never been anything that was more sort of sexy lingerie, then I guess this is going from zero to 100. Yeah. So I guess why this has been noticed.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But that's why I think it's a treat. I think maybe it was like a little Christmas. Okay, so give it time? Do you give it time? See, how it plays out. Give it to like maybe there's an anniversary. She's 100% if she was having an affair and was wearing them for another man, she wouldn't put them in the wash basket.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It'd be like that Love Actually storyline when he's bought the jewelry, you know. She's expecting the jewelry, she doesn't get the jewelry. She'll visit it up and it's a Johnny Mitchell CD. Christmas, New Year's goes by and he's like still haven't seen these under you. Let's do that. Let's do that. Is that your advice? Yes. It's a Love Actually moment right now.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Let it play up. Okay, let it play out. That's the advice. So many texts are coming through on that. So thank you everyone that text through. The podcast. The hits. Someone has slid into Megan's DMs.
Starting point is 00:32:06 This time, a husband with a bit of a dilemma involving underwear. Husband is slid into my DMs. It says, I need your help, your guys help, because I'm going nuts over some knickers. My wife is a Kmart undies kind of woman. She buys three pack of cotton plain undies, and that's not a dig. She just reckons they're the comfiest. At the weekend, I was loading the washing machine, which I don't do often, I do try to do when I can, and I saw a red lacy bra and undies.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I have never seen her wear anything like it. It was like what you see in the window of a bend-on store. She hasn't mentioned it. She hasn't worn it, at least not in front of me. So now I'm wondering what's going on. Why wouldn't she show me? Do women just buy and wear those purely for their own enjoyment? Please help me.
Starting point is 00:32:59 She's just never shown any interest in fancy lingerie. Wow. Thank you very much for airing your dirty laundry. Clean laundry, yeah. It's an interesting situation. Here's my initial thought. Instead of writing to us, why don't you turn to the person you live with and say, hey, your new underpants look significantly less comfortable than the ones you usually wear
Starting point is 00:33:24 and significantly more sexy. What's up? What's up? So, okay, so buy new laundry. Are you washing them first before wearing them? Or could some people wash them first before wearing them? Is that something that would like, she might have gone, oh, I want to wash them, make sure that you know.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Maybe. I don't know, I've just to, you know. You've got to peel off the little sticky bit, don't know. Some people are like, oh, you're wearing a t-shirt that I've just bought from a store. But some people are like, oh, you've got to wash it. Yeah. I don't know. I would wear them straight from the store because most of the time,
Starting point is 00:33:54 I don't think you're allowed to try them on or return them or. What's a sticky bit of paper for there? Just in case someone does. Some mad dog does try. them all. Okay, so that may not be a reason why that she's washing them. Well, it might be. It might be. And that's what someone has said on the Facebook page, that she could be washing them before she's wearing them. Someone said they could be a surprise for you for Christmas, especially if they read, Christmas surprise.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Also, it's not... Santa Baby, you know, performances. Santa Baby. A breathy rendition. It's also not her job to disclose every piece of new underwear she's purchased as well. No. It's not like it's to be a weekly present. of. Yeah, look, and I think with undies and clothing for women, on a day-to-day basis, like some days you really might not feel like wearing something tight because you feel bloated and yuck,
Starting point is 00:34:42 and other days you might be really feeling yourself. So maybe she's just really feeling herself at the moment, and she's like, I'm going to buy some, maybe she's getting into her sexy lingerie. I guess the other end of it could be that, you know. She's having a rampant affair. Well, yeah, I guess that's potentially what I guess some people could think there's something going on.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I'm not saying there is, but. what he's jumping to, but I don't think she would just put the sexy undies in the washing machine. What would you do in this situation? Okay? I'd ask Megan. You could fight fire with fire.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He could buy some sexy lingerie as well. You chuck it in the wash. See what happened? Passive aggressively, have a crack at each other. Did I not talk about these? Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. Well, let's throw it out to you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:26 4487 under text. What are you thinking, Megan? Where are you leaning to do? Well, I don't want to ask, I don't reckon ask her, Because I genuinely think it might be a surprise for him. Okay. You don't want to ruin that surprise. Yeah, you don't want to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And then be like, oh, I jumped to conclusions. Especially given it's red. There's something going on. You probably want to, you know. If he's never seen these in rotation before, I can see how he's ended up with him. John O'Benon and Megan, the podcast. The Hits. Lady Gaga.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Lady Gaga, as Donald Trump would say, currently in Australia. At the moment, I've been doing some Melbourne concerts. It looks like she's heading to Sydney over the next couple of days. Come to New Zealand, Lady Gaga. Yeah. She was my top artist in Spotify. I smashed that album. Not coming to New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It's rude. Now, yesterday. You can go to see her. There's an option. Oh, you're true. You can go to cross. It's as easier for her to come to you. Yeah, it is. Have we told you how busy Megan is at this time of year?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, true. She can't put it in Lady Gaga. Come to me, Lady Gaga. Now, speaking of things that's been keeping you busy yesterday, work team lunch, you know, end of year Christmas lunch. It's lovely to sit around and hang with the team. And it was just like, you know, You could order whatever you wanted.
Starting point is 00:36:33 It's a little bit sharing snack options. Okay, and I was like, okay, I'll get some prawns. Right. Now my head had your classic deep fried prawn. That's what I had envisaged. Yeah, right. And then it arrives, and it's, you know, more of a detailed prawn. You know, so I cover it.
Starting point is 00:36:50 All prawn. Whole body. Yeah. Oh, the whole thing. Whole body fried. Oh, and Megan, you're not a seafood person. Narro. She's sitting about a metre and a half, two metres away from it.
Starting point is 00:36:59 A metre. She's like, oh, I can smell that from over here. It was permeating. She was like, ugh. And I was like, what do you want me to do here? She's like, remove it. So I had to get the plate. Instead of a walk away and, you know, eat.
Starting point is 00:37:16 After you had eaten it, I asked you to remove it. My stingy seafood. Also, he just left, I'm like, the plate comes you eat, right? It's just sitting there. And John is just like. He doesn't work for the establishment. No, he's just sitting. But you don't take your plate back up to the kitchen?
Starting point is 00:37:31 No, he hadn't eaten it yet. I'm like, just eat them. Oh, I see. Oh, no, it was just the leftover heads of the. And then producer Troy came along. He had all good intentions of donating blood yesterday. He was talking a big game early in the morning. He was like, I'm off to donate blood.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. And how did that go in the afternoon? We're about to find out. What happened? What happened, Troy? Did he order a steak because you needed more? I wanted the iron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. And I bought my water bottle, was just sipping on that. and then one of the team was like oh you're not having a drink I was like no no I'm going to be good I'm donating blood in about an hour don't want to have a drink another you're not going to have a drink
Starting point is 00:38:09 no no I've got my water bottle I'm fine you're not going to have a drink look at Bryn he's got a nagroney look how good that looks yeah you're right actually I'll post my mother so you post part of the blood I rescheduled to next Monday
Starting point is 00:38:21 nothing like some champagne New Zealand pear pressure when it comes to binge drinking come on mate but what made me feel really good was but in me chatting about rescheduling both Megan and our boss Matt re-downloaded the NZ Blood app and booked another appointment
Starting point is 00:38:35 so really I think I've saved more lives in rescheduling I was influenced Yeah You still got to have that drink too didn't you I got that's a celebratory drink About how many lives you'd save That's right
Starting point is 00:38:46 Oh it's a good thing you're doing Next Yeah he hasn't done it yet Yeah true he's getting all the credit He hasn't done it He just postponed Yeah you're right I think you let them down
Starting point is 00:38:57 at the last minute John O'Ben and Megan The podcast, the hits. Getting into what they call the silly season, we want a bit of advice on how we can manage stress and manage the eating and overindulging. And Dr Libby joins us in the studio. Great to have you here.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Happy to be here. Thank you so much. I'm going to have you here. This is a very busy time of year for people. Now, how do we manage these next sort of few weeks? Yeah, do you know, I think obviously it's busy and we can't change the things we need to get through in a day. but sometimes the way we approach it,
Starting point is 00:39:27 sort of mindset can make a difference. And if we stay connected to thinking about while everyone's here and can actually get together, it's busy and it's a lot. But I'm going to appreciate the fact that I have these amazing humans in my life, even though they might ask a lot of me. So I think attitude can really help.
Starting point is 00:39:42 You know what's throwing me out? Because I, like, my wife has, she works and she works different hours to me. So she, you know, I take care. I'm quite but organized. So I do all the Christmas shopping and stuff. But now she's at a back operation. She's at home.
Starting point is 00:39:53 So she's ordering Christmas present. I'm like, now she's encroached, it feels like she's encroaching on my territory now. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what have you ordered for the kids? You know, like, you usually do. Yeah, and I thought I would like the help, but now I'm like, oh, I don't know, I feel like she's out, Libby. It's throw me out, Libby. It's not on, treading on your toes.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah, that's right. She's like, I thought it'd be good. I've ordered this. Honestly. Have you got any vitamins for that? I've got a lot of ideas for that. Honestly, that's like me, because I always complain about how I do a lot of the cooking and I do all the shopping and all that. But then if someone helps me, I'm like, no, don't, please don't.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I don't like it. I don't do it. We just need to let you complain. Yeah, exactly. What about packing the dishwasher? Do you get, is it, are you other people allowed to pack your dishwash? Oh, no, I'm okay with that. I do that. A lot of people don't rinse the food off the plates. Yeah, it's a bug. Help me understand that. Yeah. That's true. I thought, this is going to clog the pipes up down. Yeah, anyway, so I take control. Never wipes the bench down after he's done the dishes. I'm like, you've got to clean up after yourself. Terrible in the kitchen. Have you got any marital problems, Lily?
Starting point is 00:40:56 I'm really airing our laundry. Sorry, no, you didn't want to come in here. Okay, let's talk about food and drink, because it is a time that, you know, people do indulge, but how do you balance that through this period? Yeah, so it can be a time where being a flexitarian is a really good approach. Oh, good name, good name. So, yeah, you might sort of hold yourself to pretty high standards through the year,
Starting point is 00:41:14 but obviously it's a time where there's way more social celebrations, and you don't want to miss out on things you might otherwise love. And it is what we do habitually that creates our health. It's not what we occasionally do. So I think it's healthy sometimes to just relax and go with the flow when it comes to food. But when it's in your control, when you're back in your own kitchen and you're not out socialising, it doesn't mean just lower your standards and don't take good care when you're in your own kitchen and step it up. What if I've maintained a low bar of standards throughout the year as well?
Starting point is 00:41:43 So what do I do during this? Just continue that low. It's all working for you. Look how vibrant you are. Vibrant, glowing. Loading. Yep. The shoes being kind.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Okay, January first, because often people start the new year with a lot of good intentions. New year, you knew me. Yeah, how do you make those goals? Because they're great to set those goals, but how do you make them ones that you can keep up and sustain? So I think it's great to tune into what you care about as an individual. So what do you value? What's a priority for you? And connecting what matters to you and might be having more energy to play with your children or your grandchildren,
Starting point is 00:42:18 or it might be learning something new. You want to learn a musical instrument or go study something. So whatever is important to you, if you connect eating better or the better choices you want to make in the new year with what is meaningful to you, it's all more likely to stick. So being aware of our values, and when I say values, I don't mean ethical preferences like generosity and kindness. I mean, what does your life actually demonstrate you value? What do you think about? What do you read about? What do you spend money on?
Starting point is 00:42:42 They're essentially your values. And if you connect that to eating better, taking better care of yourself, the changes are a lot more likely to be sustained. Whereas if someone like me just bowls in and says, gets all bossy, do this, do this, it won't stick because it hasn't come from inside you. Do you mean like connecting the secret lives of Mormon wives to the treadmill? Because I let myself watch that. Those of your values.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I let myself watch that when I'm on the treadmill. So now I'm like, go on the treadmill and then you can watch the TV. But how fabulous. You're getting the bliss, the joy from actually committing to the movement. How great. Whatever it takes. whatever spins your tires join the Mormon church have you really committed to the show

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