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Episode Date: October 21, 2024

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This Jono and Ben podcast, hey that's us, brought to you by HelloFresh, the experts and tastes that Kiwis love. Welcome to the podcast on a Tuesday morning. It was a fun show today and we just made Jono because it's World Caps Lock Day. I don't think too many other radio shows in the world will be focusing as much on it as we did. We dedicated at least 35-40% of the show to World Caps Lock Day today, so I feel like that bucket well and truly filled. Well it was something that popped up. It'd be like if it was male board in this day. We'd get involved in something. No? Yeah.

People have their things. Hand sanitiser day, I'll be getting behind that. We just want you to feel seen. Dainty sneeze day? Who knows Megan has the daintiest sneeze in the market? So I don't want to spray everywhere. Sometimes you can't stop your sneeze from how loud it is, you know?

It's like every dad, every dad has the loudest sneeze. And it comes out of nowhere. Boom! It's like when you see a nuclear bomb and all the ripples. Yeah. Yeah, well, today it was World Caps Lock Day. So we decided to celebrate with Jono because he loves using Caps Lock when he's on the computer.

And so we had your phone and we called, you'll hear it very shortly, we called a famous person from your phone, Jeremy Corbett, host of Seven Days, and you had to shout a conversation. But we tried in the ad break. We had your phone plugged in. And so it looked like it was coming from you david seymour deputy prime minister right uh we called him he had his number i don't know why i have seymour's number but he texts you back in a meeting sorry i'll call you

later so yeah he said sorry i can't talk right now and then i came back no worries mates just my wonderful colleagues trying to milk you for some content so you let him know have a good day and he said normally i'd be keen but I've got meetings all morning. And he said, which one is this? So I've got Seymour saved. He clearly doesn't have my number saved. I said, absolutely fine, mate. Just join in here from the hits.

Nothing back. Cold response. Yeah. Ouch. At least he now knows who you are. How did you get his number? Honestly I have no idea I assume it would be

Something that we did On the radio From a while ago I think we should Message him in a week And it'd be like This number is disconnected I even reckon

Do you reckon even after Now he knows Whose number it is He's put me into the context Oh potentially Yeah It'll be Jono Do not answer

It's amazing You do pick up these things You know Because we are lucky enough To talk to a lot of people, you know, with public profile. And sometimes you do take their number down or you have to call them or text them and stuff. We had John Keyes for a while when he was Prime Minister.

Remember that? Yeah. And we rang him just out of the blue about something. I can't remember what it was, some random answer. And he thought we were Obama calling. That's the only reason he answered. He was in the middle of a Cabinet meeting. He went out and he was like, oh, it's these guys on the radio.

He was very polite. He said, the only reason I answered is because in the middle of a cabinet meeting he went out and he was like oh it's these guys in the radio he was very polite he said the only reason I answered because I thought it was Obama he left the Prime Minister left a meeting

I know you two chatted to us for a bit and then he was like better go better go back to the

gotta run the country you know whatever we were doing was definitely not important enough to interrupt him and he knew that we knew that

it's a fun podcast today. Enjoy that. We'll catch you tomorrow. This is World Caps Lock Day today. Something I discovered from a Disney calendar, a Mickey Mouse calendar. When you were away, actually, John, I was talking about this.

I was looking at it. I was like, days seem made up, but apparently they're not. Novelty days, yeah. There was a period there in radio, I think it was the late 90s, early 2000s, where they were the backbone of the radio show, weren't they?

Celebrating a novelty day. Yeah. World Carrot Snorting Day or something. And you'd get the intern out there snorting carrots. You'd really hammer your foot to the floor on the idea. But hey, we've given World Caps Lock Day a lot of airtime today. That's right.

It's an official day, and it's one that's probably dear to your heart because you love writing in caps locks, as we've already talked about. Well, I don't love it. It's just it happens accidentally, and then when you're not... And then you don't correct it. Well, it happens because of pure laziness.

You don't have to worry about putting the shift and changing the font. Yeah, a lot of email communications come across in caps locks. I don't know why it would annoy people so much. Because it's like yelling. Yeah. But just don't let it annoy you. That's what people think.

They think, oh, that's great. He's yelling at me. Why is he yelling at me? That's people what they get, you know, because it's very hard to know what people mean behind when they write stuff sometimes when you can't hear what they say. So all they see from you is this old mate yelling, bloody, yeah, you know.

And often it's like nice emails being like, yeah, bloody legends. It's like, well, it could have just been. There's no malice behind it. I can see it. I know it's like nice emails being like you're a bloody legend it's like well it could have just been there's no malice behind it I can see it I know it's a crime well yeah and because you've committed these

heinous crimes it seems only fair on World Caps Locks Day for you to pay the price for doing so so we decided I've got your phone here fair to who?

let's say fair to us and the listeners and all the people you've emailed over the years so I've got your phone right here and I'm scrolling through the contacts.

And I think what should happen, Megan, do you think this is a good idea? He should call someone from the contacts that we decide, and he needs to yell the whole conversation. Yeah, because you're quite happy to do it over email. Yeah. But would you yell at someone in person? Probably not, because it's rude. Turn this into an audio medium.

Yeah. Let's see what you've done here. Are you going to roulette it and just scroll or are you going to pick someone? What do you reckon? What would you like to pick at? Okay. I think you should pick someone.

Okay, so far I go with the A's. Oh, Ali Williams. I think I've got four more like Ali Williams. I don't know if I've got Ali Williams. He's in there, so there's an option for you. You've got former boss

Andrew Shusterman's in there. Former boss of TV3. You've got old Ben Mitchell. They've got two numbers of Ben Mitchell From Shorland Street Why do you have his number twice? To be honest I don't know He knew Jono had it the first time so he changed it And then he got that one too

Sometimes I just put well known people's names In my contact list and there's no number attached to them Just to give you some clout I don't know if Clark Gayford would answer. Would Clark Gayford answer any of these? You can't yell at the first man. Oh, this is fun. Now, the problem is he's plugged my phone in,

so it's not like it's coming from the radio studio. This is a personal phone call. Do you want to know, or should I just call? I don't want to. Should I just call and you work it out? Okay. Okay, should we do that? Have you got one?

Yeah, well, I've got one I'll give it a go. Oh, gosh. Is it one everyone will know? Yeah. Well, I've got one I'll give it a go. Oh, God. Is it one everyone will know? Yeah. Yeah, I'll give it a go. Good stuff. Okay, okay, okay. How loud do you want?

Do you want to be like, G'day, mate! Yeah. Uh-oh. Who's this? Oh. Hey, Jono. G'day, mate!

How are you? Pretty good. Yeah, what are you up to, big guy? I'm just trying to, I've got sore ears, so I'm just hoping no one rings up and yells at me. Oh, Jeremy! Jeremy Corbett! Good one for ruining that.

How are you, big guy? Yeah, better than you by the sounds of it. You got a bit of anger there you came to catch up for a coffee jerry um not anymore can i please stop so i'm sorry sorry jeremy it's world caps lock stay johnno writes in caps locks we thought he could see what it would like if he shouted a conversation. I just rang a number at random from his phone. I don't know why he's got your number.

Apologies about that, Jeremy. Yeah, yeah. Can you delete that? Yeah, you know, you worked in radio for many, many years, so you've done your time on these sort of wacky things, haven't you, Jeremy? Actually, while we do have you on in seven days, I see he's going on tour again around the regions.

Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm kicking off 1st of November in Blenheim. Let him plug his thing and he won't be as angry. Yeah, that's what I thought. Did you like that? Did you like that, Corbett? That's a bit of experience from old being here, you know. Did you like that?

Exactly. I've done my work. He's turned this prank call into an interview. I'm pivoted. I'm pivoted from a terrible prank call into a bit of a plug. I can't wait for Seven Days Live tour. Where do you get the tickets, Jeremy? I don't know.

Google it. If you can't find them, you don't deserve to come. I don't want anyone stupid enough not to be able to find tickets. You're right. In this day and age, if you can't source your own tickets. No, you're right. A quick Google seven days live tour will get you there, right? That's one.

Jump onto Via GoGo and everything will be all right. Jeremy Corbett, love your work. We apologise about that and sorry about the last three minutes. Love you guys. See you next time. Thanks, mate. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Jeremy Corbett love your work we apologise about that and sorry about the last three minutes love you guys see you later the hits the Jono and Ben podcast yesterday

I've been meaning to clean my car for a while you know like get it cleaned and yesterday I thought I'd go through an automatic you know like

got some gas and I was like oh get's you know get's get one of the car washers there and go through you know

the automatic car wash love the automatic car wash you sort of sit there in awkward silence questioning your life decisions, don't you? A little bit of a time out, a little bit of a moment. But I hadn't driven inside one of those for a while

because normally I'd go down and do it myself like a wash world or something like that. But I was like, I'll go through this. And it was fine. I think the last time, without a word of lie, I went to do one. I waited like 45 minutes for this thing. Forever.

And then when you're in the queue you're jammed in between the cars yeah sitting behind a lady there was a car behind me and then eventually I got out of my car and went and looked

because this is taking forever I went in and said there was no one actually in the car the poor lady this old sweet old lady had just been waiting and she was in the front of the queue and I was like

oh hey you're like sweet old lady and John O and I are like she's not a sweet old lady there's no one in there you need to go in there but we're all just sitting in the queue

going were you like sweet old lady it took you 45 minutes to go and check she's having like a nightmare of an old lady I'm like

what sort of super washer they got you know this thing but I don't know if you've been one of those you drive on in and then it's like you've got to wait for you know there's the green light red light system you've got to get on the

thing until you get to the stop yeah and that's a fine line isn't it oh my god need precision it's like why does it have to be so precise like down to the centimeter like yeah like drive for you like got it off off wrong and you back back a little bit wrong i'm off then i go forward a little bit of mine and then i'm off and then i a little bit, I'm off. And then I'm off. And then I'm like, jeez, I'm not driving through the car. Well, surely the car will be fine if I'm a millimetre out or not. No, well, clearly not. Because it's always like the brushes are just bullying your car into cleaning, isn't it?

They're kind of just whacking your car. So I guess if you're just off centre slightly, then the machinery will start destroying. That happened to, we spoke to someone. They were at a petrol station one, and apparently a part of the hose or system had come off, but it was just like spinning around and just whacking the panels of their car.

And they couldn't go anywhere because they had to wait until the cycle finished. And it got out, and it looked like his vehicle had driven through the Gaza Strip. Wow. Because as a kid, it's one of the most frightening things, I think, for a wee period of your life, the car wash.

And then you're like, oh no, actually this is fine. Then it quickly becomes the most enjoyable thing. Yeah. The kid's like, can we go to the car wash? Can we put the window down just a little bit and see if some of the water comes in as well? So yeah. But I feel like in all the advancements in technology, maybe the how much you have to drive into one of these, we could kind of work that out.

Yeah. My last time in one of those automatic car washes, actually, was we were filming the Dog Almighty show. It was like a Sunday morning, and I was sitting in one of them, and there was a guy who was on the run from the police, and he came into the car wash as I was in there. I was like, oh, hello, mate. Great place to hide.

I was supposed to. And he was kind of like waving for me to let him into the car, and I was like, probably, great place to hide. And he was kind of like waving for me to let him into the car. And I was like, probably not. You can't open your doors once you're in there anyway. In the middle of a wash. I was into the wax cycle, mate, sorry. But he was in there and he was soaking wet. And then he just sort of sprinted off again.

And then I saw the car. I never know what happened to him. Hope he had a nice day. He had a shower. Very cool. Squeaky clean. Maybe not in the sense of the law, but as far as this person goes. October the 22nd, we only just discovered this, is World Caps Locks Day.

Caps Lock. If you like using Caps Lock, which Jono loves to, on emails, texts. He keeps saying I like using it. I don't like using it. Well, you seem to use it. Don't use it then. You accidentally do it, but you don't correct yourself. Yeah. No. It's pretty easy not like using it. I don't like using it. Well, you seem to use it. Don't use it then. You accidentally do it, but you don't correct yourself. Yeah, no. It's pretty easy not to use it.

I know the connotations and the stance towards those that do send caps lock emails. It's like walking into a library and shouting in a megaphone, isn't it? Having a conversation through a megaphone. But I get it. Some people think it's one of the worst things that you can do on the internet. If I emailed a human trafficking organization from the dark web and i'm like hey guys i'm in the market for a human and i accidentally left the email on caps lock they'll come back with like hey we're bad guys but we're not monsters mate come on that's how bad it is it screams boomer

though because it screams that you're never looking at the screen because all it takes is two letters and then you're like, oh, capstock's on. Rather than getting to the end of an email and then go, oh, it's too late now. That's what it screams. It screams I haven't looked at the screen once. I've just been looking at my fingers typing. Now I look up. It's two index fingers

bashing the keyboard. And speaking as I'm typing as well. Nah, meh, he. So we wanted to know this morning because we've got a wee surprise for Jono after eight o'clock to do with World Caps Locked today. But we'll get to that later. We wanted to know what are the things that people are doing when it comes to emailing and texting and stuff like messaging that kind of winds you up? Like what are the things or maybe the things you have to do as well.

Do you know what winds me up? And this might be unpopular opinion. It's when people ask you how you are. It's a, like, work email. And at the start, they're like, hi, hope you're well. Did you have a good weekend? I hate that too.

I don't, you don't care. You need to, but you need to write it. Now I have to answer it. Yeah. I was saying the other day, it's that first line you feel you need to do because you can't with some people. Like, maybe if someone you email every day, you can get straight to the point. But if I have to answer it. Yeah. I was saying the other day, it's that first line you feel you need to do because you can't with some people.

Maybe if someone you email every day, you can get straight to the point. But if someone you're in the wall, you have to go, hey, I hope you're all good

or hope this finds you well and you're doing fine. Why don't you go, hi there, hope you're well, don't care, here's the, you know,

just sort of rattle on through it. Yeah, but it feels like you need to have that little bridging line. Because sometimes I write the whole email and then I have to go back and be like,

I didn't say any pleasantries at the start. I have to add it in. But then when someone says it to you, you're like, oh, do I need to answer that question? You don't care. But then you feel a bunch of go, hope you're well too. Again, don't care. Get straight down to business.

We're all hoping everyone's well. Don't get me wrong. But it does feel like one of those things. I don't wish any bad on you. You know I hope you had a good weekend. Let's just move on. What email crimes are out there? Is there anything worse than typing emails in all caps lock?

And it's kind of the Pinocchio effect for me too. When I really am angry, legitimately angry. What can you do? No one's going to know. Yeah. No one's going to, because they're like, oh, he really types in caps all the time. I'm an exclamation mark person, but probably too many. Too many.

Like, just to try and go, that's a joke. This is funny. This is the moment. I'm an exclamation mark person, but probably too many. Just to try and go, that's a joke. This is funny. This is the moment. I'm all good. Do you find that you just finish sentences with an exclamation mark? Too many exclamation marks. Just trying to lighten things up. Just a little bit. It's a joke. We wrote a script for something

and then the producer came back and was like, for the love of God, who is putting all the exclamation marks in this script? Remove these. Yeah, it was me. Too many, too many. I love them, I love them, but I've got to try. What does it say?

Is it diffusing the situation? I was trying to make it a little bit more like, this is meant to be intended for a laugh. I guess that emojis can do the same thing, but on email, it was just like, this is intended to be a bit of a laugh, just that, you know, and a little exclamation mark. The hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Things that really wind you up when it comes to emailing.

It's World Caps Lock Day today, a day where we can celebrate Jono's caps lock love. Yeah. I actually remember as you were talking about it, Larissa, who works in the office, again, I'd fired off a caps lock email, and obviously she took objection about it. Larissa, who works in the office, again, I'd fired off a caps lock email, and obviously she took objection to it. And so she then, she volleyed back a caps lock, but in slightly larger font. And how did you find it? I enjoyed it.

No, I enjoyed the challenge. I was like, challenge accepted. And then so it turned into an email war of typing back and forth in caps lock, but increasing the font size to the point where I think it got to Tahoma 128. Wow. Like one letter on the screen per time, and then the madness had to stop. But, you know, I enjoyed it. I was like, oh, this is a bit of a laugh.

Huge waste of company time and resource, but a bit of a laugh. So we wanted to know, I know 100 of the hits. 4487, lots of people backing up our annoyance for that first line in an email that you have to say. The pleasantries. I hope you're well. Yeah. Yeah. Someone's actually texted and saying, AI actually puts it in automatically.

Hope this email finds you well. Of course it's going to find you well. The email, did you type in the address correctly? Well, then it's going to find them well. Yeah. Yeah. You don't like that one, do you? Oh, no, no.

I don't like sometimes sign-offs as well. Depending on the context of an email, a best, you know, someone, or a na mihi. I love, I mean, don't get me wrong, I love using te reo. He's not going to offend anyone. But when it comes to the, if the context of an email is not a pleasant one, and then they put in a best or a na mihi, I'm like, oh, you know, it almost makes you annoyed by that last saying. No, we can't do that for you.

Don't ever ask again. Na mihi. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly.'t do that for you. Don't ever ask again. Nah, I'm a hen. Yeah, exactly. A real kick in the... Yeah. Let's get Rachel on the phone. How are you this morning, Rachel? Hey, good, thanks, guys.

Lovely to have you on. Email crimes. Is there anything worse than typing in caps lock? My frustration is when people spell your name wrong. And all I need to do is look like three lines down and there's your name. Oh and your automatic email signature? Yes yes and Rachel I spell it

as A-E-L and they'll spell it without the A and it's like come on guys That's my one thing I'm like just spell people's names right, that's all you have to do I know it's not hard is it? That's right there in an email. We're going to hook you up with some Alpizza.

Enjoy your World Caps Locks Day today. Yeah, good on you. Is it Caps Lock? Caps Lock Day, isn't it? Yeah. Sometimes I put the S on. I'm sorry, Megan. No, it's really giving me the ick.

Nah, me. Nah, me, Rachel. Have a good one, mate. Appreciate your call. It's our friend. It's our friend. It's our friend. It's our friend.

It's friend Daniela from The Quest. Ciao. Buon giorno. Buon giorno. It's our friend, his friend, Daniela from the quest. Ciao. Buongiorno. Buongiorno. Sorry, I'll do that. Try again. Buongiorno.

Yeah, Daniela, I can imagine nothing would wind you up on email and text, does it? No. No, yes, I do actually. Oh, you do? Okay. Yeah, she's got something for you. I imagine you're back and forth with a lot of emails in your job as a manager of a hotel, Daniela. Yeah, I do a lot, and I've got a big problem, guys, I need to admit. What is it?

My problem is my exclamation mark. Oh, you're like Ben, you overuse them? Yeah, but you know what? You need to know from the beginning of the story. In Italy, the exclamation mark is for happiness, explaining that you're excited about something, and, you know, like highlight something. I'm using all these exclamation marks until a customer very kindly says to me,

oh, Danny, I know you, but, you know, that's too many exclamation marks. But you're Italian. You want to type like, hey, ciao. Yeah, flamboy, but, you know, that's too many exclamation marks. But you're Italian. You want to type like, hey, ciao. Flamboyant typing, yeah. It's like you're yelling on my face. Do I? No, but usually I do because my voice is quite loud.

I'm very pleased for someone telling me the customs in New Zealand. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. I'd love to be on email in Italy. It would be, geez. Bellissimo. Oh, guys. I appreciate it. I'd love to be on email in Italy. It would be a deal. Well, I was just thinking yesterday, we need to catch up with you. We're going to do it every week.

So let's do it from next week. All right. We'll talk to you soon. Yeah, but we tick the box for this week. Hey, good job. Yeah, all right, mate. I'll start charging if we go on. The hits.

The Jono and Ben podcast. South aren't expected to be hit So with a whole lot of rain A heavy rain warning Over the next couple of days Heading into the long weekend I was just saying I smelt my neighbour's barbecue

On Sunday night I thought we were there No Almost Happy birthday to Aya Your daughter Yeah It's World Caps Lock Day

And it is Aya's birthday Who's to say What's more important Giving her energy though So it's kind of fitting that she was born on World Caps Lock Day.

But there is, what's the point of being on radio if I can't like read something for my daughter on her birthday? Will she be listening to this right now?

Because if she's not listening you can't read it out. It's the rules. If they're having a good day they'll be in the car. If they're not, they'll be, yeah.

Do we want to find out? Shall we? No, we'll leave them to be. They're in the trenches. they're not they they'll be yeah do we want to find out shall we no we'll leave them to be they're in the middle they're in the trenches not a time to call on the radio um but this is something like i want to tell my daughter but also like uh specifically all all young girls out there um it can apply to them too okay to my little eye of papaya i've never met someone so young who knows exactly what she wants, sets boundaries, loves people so intensely, and has such a strong sense of self. You drive us up the wall because you don't like being told what to do

in any sense of the word. You question everything, want to do everything yourself. You're always keen for a good time, even when it's bedtime. As you grow, here are some things that I learnt that I want you to take with you. Can I just say, first, the top half, not so complimentary. Sounds like a list of things that you find a giant pain in the ass. No, but you want that independent.

It's like, yeah, that's awesome when they're strong and they know what they want. That's great. It's a pain in the ass to parent, but I also have no worries about her getting older. Respect that, you know? Because that's exactly who I want to be. Just I don't want to parent it, you know?

Coming from someone who can't make a decision and is weak and mild, I would love to have all those attributes, you know? Yeah. Especially for a little girl.

I love that about her, but it's, yeah. You're not weak and mild, Ben. I think we should say that. The world might sometimes try to tell you who you should be. Always remember

that you are enough just as you are. Put yourself first. It isn't selfish. When you care for yourself, you should be. Always remember that you are enough just as you are. Put yourself first. It isn't selfish. When you care for yourself, you can be the best version for those around you. Stand tall and speak your truth. There will be times when your voice might feel small, but it matters. Speak up for what is right, even when it's hard.

Be proud of everything that makes you you. Know that your feelings are valid. Every version of yourself is beautiful. Embrace it all. Aya, you're already such a wonderful little person and I know you'll grow up to be an incredible woman. Strong, kind, independent and full of love.

I'll always be here to guide you, cheer you on and love you no matter what. I'm so very proud to be your mum and I cannot wait to see the amazing life you create for yourself. Lovely. Good message, too. Standing up for what's right.

You know, we did come from a generation where you're like, shut the hell up, dumb kid. You know? Literally, I love my parents, but they would always say, seen and not heard. I'm like, oh, okay. It really goes with you into adult life. It does.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. She's got a new book out called Unapologetically Me. Tough one to say, isn't it? Brie Thomasel, good morning. How are you doing? Morning, guys. Thanks for having me in. Talking about your new book, which is out.

It's been out for a few days now. I know you were quite nervous about it being out there in the world, but it's obviously, you know, the aim is to help people and to take them through the journey that you went through. But how does it feel to have it out there in the world? Yeah, I think nervous is an understatement. I think the actual term is pooping their pants. That's how the French say it. Yeah, it's been, God, it's been an overwhelming experience, I'll tell you that. Because I also have worked with you and I've known you for a few years and these things in there, I'm like, I did not know that, Bree also have worked with you and I've known you for a few years and these things in there I'm like I did not know that Brie like do you think that you kind of hide

it away from people oh of course I think we all do that though yeah as people there's stuff you know that's quite private and you feel very vulnerable sharing certain parts of of yourself but when I went into this I promised myself that if you're going to write a book, I don't want it to be surface level. I want to get into the nitty gritty, all my deepest and darkest, or else there's no point doing it. There was a news story circulating about a traumatic event when you were nine years old and you were a victim of a home invasion.

I think you're loving reliving this over and over. It's my favourite actually. I mean, it's in the book, so I have mentally prepared myself to talk about it. I think it's one of the most pivotal parts in the book. And obviously that event in my childhood has had a huge impact throughout the rest of my life. It was not something you want anyone to go through, let alone, it was me and the people closest to me, my nan and my mum were there as well. Looking at it now, glass half full,

which is very hard to do with something like that, I think it just reiterated to me just how close my mum and I are and the reasons why, which a lot of them stem from that event and that day. Did they get caught? They sure did. The idiots went home the next day to their house and the cops were waiting for them. Did you know who they were?

No, we didn't know who they were. They were actually from a couple of guys from the town over from ours that held up a service station before coming into our home and so the cops were already after them and unfortunately they didn't get them before we had contact with them oh geez yeah well like you said I think you've said it that's when you knew how much love your mum had for how any mother has for their child is that she was willing to you know put herself in harm's way oh absolutely I saw in that moment that uh my mum really was willing to, you know, put herself in harm's way. Oh, absolutely. I saw in that moment that my mum really was willing to give her life for mine and it just shows that amazing connection and bond

that mothers have with their kids. And they say it all the time. I mean, it's awful that you witnessed it, but like most of us don't get that opportunity to actually see it in action like you did. It's definitely something you don't want to see. But I'll never forget the look on my mum's face. Like when she looked this guy dead in the eye and was like, take me, just don't take my daughter. And it's a look that you'll never forget.

We've got Brie Thomas-El with us. Her book, Unapologetically Me. That's really hard to say, isn't it? A lot of people have stuffed it up. Unapologetically Me. There you go. And that's why I let you guys lot of people are unapologetically me there you go and that's why i let you guys do it is that right now is now they say don't judge a book by its cover yes that's what they say and i'm only gonna do this because you know we're mates we know you

know did you want to know how it would be judged if you were judging the book by the cover i'd love to know because you know we did the other day with our radio show we put a little picture of our the hits breakfast and we're like roast, be mean to chat GPT. And it came back with some comments. So I put, last night I put your cover into chat GPT. Do you want to know, or do you not want to know?

I'd love to know. This is a radio medium. Describe what your book cover looks like. Oh, it's just, you know, every generic book cover. Don't roast it.

Don't roast it. Don't do it. That's hot B. She gave us a bit of shoulder too. I did. Had the girls out the shoulders out. Zero complaints from us. Actually, to be fair, it wasn't too bad.

I put it into ChatGPT and I said, you know, roast it. Be mean is what I said. And it said, oh, unapologetically me. More like unapologetically boring. The cover screams, I just discovered Canva templates and if the contents are as basic as this design, I'm

expecting more filler than a bag of chips. I guess she couldn't apologise for the font choices either because they're clearly out there fighting for attention. It's a multiple font. The title's all, oh, I'm so unapologetic, but the cover is clearly apologising for being this bland.

There you go. That's from ChatGPT. I like it. I like it. It's honest to the point. Apologies to the designer of the book. I thought it looked great, but anyway. I mean, I hope she's not listening.

Then ChatGPT is going to feel really bad about itself when it actually reads the content of the book too. Yeah, it is. Yeah, hopefully, well, if that's how it views the cover, hopefully the context is anything but boring. No. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. This night changes One Direction.

The sad passing of Liam Payne last week as well brings a whole lot of One Direction music back into our lives. That's a good song. That's a great song. Producer Ali, huge fan of One Direction. She's our lives. That's a good song. Producer Ali, huge fan of One Direction. She's wearing a t-shirt she bought as a 16 year old and she says now, she said before the show

she's too chesty to be wearing the top now and it's stretching. The guy's faces are under duress. That were her words. And both Ben and I, we have not looked. No, we refuse to look because that's not what you do in the workplace in 2024. My eyes are in one direction and it's away from the top.

Just if management are listening. That's right. His eyes have been staring dead into mine the whole time. Haven't even acknowledged. And we won't. Now, we wanted to talk about childhood nicknames because we just discovered on our trip away last week that you used to have a nickname there Megan. Did you just try and call me my nickname? Because

Kim, she got a tattoo. Her dad used to call her Lovebug and I was like, oh that's such a sweet name. Yeah, Kim listened to the show it was awesome to get her first tattoo with her to see her do that. And I was like Lovebug is really sweet. I was like if I was to get a tattoo of what my dad called me,

it wouldn't be as cute because dad used to call me, or does still call me ferret. I've been ferret. Part of the rodent family? I know. Yeah. You kind of think it's cute, but then when you Google image, it's like an aggressive little like stoaty weasel thing.

So why? What was the backstory behind it? Do you know? There's no backstory. It's not as if I was doing anything weaselly or like... Yeah, if anyone should be the ferret, it should be me. Weasel of the program. And so when you go back home, he'll still call you ferret?

Yep, he still calls me ferret. More often than he would say my actual name, he would call me ferret. You had an interesting nickname as a child from your uncle. Yeah, it was Boona. He gave nicknames to everyone. Yeah, hello Boona, we'd always say. It was a hello Boona. Sounds like it's derived from a. Yeah, hello, Boomer, we'd always say. It was a hello. Sounds like it's derived

from a racial slur or something, but it's not. Boomer, not Boomer. No, not Boomer, but Boomer. And we're looking at, you were looking at last week, because I never actually Googled it,

it's an uncouth or unsophisticated person. Apparently. Of low social status. All these years he's been mocking me, I had no idea. You're like, hee, hee, hee.

You never understand that as a kid, do you? Like, I remember, this is not a nickname, went to my uncle's house, Uncle Alan. He told me he had a lion in the shed. And there was no part of me that didn't believe that. But, you know, if I'd simply just gone and looked through the window of the shed door, I could have, you know, there were plot holes all through the story.

I was like, well, why don't you just bring him out if you want to show me the lion? That's true. But it's the same with your uncle. You're not going to question things. Yeah. Well, you're nicknamed the ferret. So what we want to open up, the ferret and Boona this morning want to open up the lions. What do you want to do?

We want to know your childhood nickname. Was it something cute and lovable like Ladybug, Kim? If you were to get a tattoo on your arm, what would it be? Yeah, Megan's getting a ferret. Lovable, like Ladybug, Kim. If you were to get a tattoo on your arm, what would it be? Yeah, Megan's getting a ferret. It works. It's cute until you break it down. And then you're like, oh, it's so sexy. I'm sure ferrets could be cute.

I'm sure we could find a cute ferret. Do we have ferrets in New Zealand? Stoats. Stoats. Yeah, you're a stoat. Yeah, a pest. I do have ferrets. A nibbly pest.

Yeah, a nibbly pest. That sounds like you, Megan. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. This night changes one direction. The sadits, the Jono and Ben podcast. This night changes One Direction. The sad passing of Liam Payne last week as well brings a whole lot of One Direction music back into our lives. That's a good song. Producer Ali, huge fan of One Direction.

She's wearing a T-shirt she bought as a 16-year-old. And she says now, she said before the show, she's too chesty to be wearing the top now. The guy's faces are under duress. Her words. Both Ben and I, we have not looked. No, we refuse to look because that's not what you do in the workplace in 2024.

My eyes are in one direction and it's away from the top. Just if management are listening. His eyes have been staring dead into mine the whole time. Haven't even acknowledged. And we won't. Now, we wanted to talk about childhood nicknames

because we just discovered on our trip away last week that you used to have a nickname there, Megan. Did you just try and call me my nickname? Because Kim, she got a tattoo. Her dad used to call her Lovebug. And I was like, oh, that's such a sweet name. Kim listened to the show. It was awesome to get her first tattoo with her used to call her Lovebug. And I was like, oh, that's such a sweet name. Yeah, Kimbalist, this is the show.

It was awesome to get her first tattoo with her, you know, to see her do that. And I was like, Lovebug is really sweet. I was like, if I was to get a tattoo of what my dad called me, it wouldn't be as cute

because dad used to call me, or does still, call me Ferret. I've been Ferret all my life. Part of the rodent family? I know. Yeah.

You kind of think it's cute, but then when you google image it's like an aggressive little like stoty weasel so why what was the backstory behind it there's no backstory it's not as if i was like doing anything weasely or like if anyone should be the ferret should be me weasel of the program and he so when you go back home he'll still call you ferret yep he still calls me ferret more often than he would say my actual name wow he would call me ferret you had an interesting nickname as a child from your uncle yeah it was booner and like he gave nicknames to everyone and yeah la boona would always say like it was a hello sound like it's derived from a racial slur or something but it's

not not boomer no not like boomer the booner and we're looking at you were looking at last week because i never actually googled it it's an uncouth or unsophisticated person. Apparently. Of low social status. Like a. All these years he's been mocking me. I had no idea. You know, you're like.

You never understand though as a kid, do you? Like I remember, this is not a nickname, went to my uncle's house, Uncle Alan. He told me he had a lion in the shed. And there was no part of me that didn't believe that. But, you know, if I'd simply just gone and looked through the window of the shed door, I could have, you know, there were plot holes all through the story. I was like, well, why don't you just bring him out if you want to show me the lion?

But it's the same with your uncle. You're not going to question things. Or your nickname, the ferret. So what we want to open up, the ferret and Boona this morning want to open up the lions. What do you want to do? We want to know up the ferret in Boona this morning. We want to open up the lines. What do you want to do? We want to know your childhood nickname. Was it something cute and lovable like Ladybug, Kim? If you were to get a tattoo on your arm, what would it be?

Yeah, Megan's getting a ferret. It was cute until you break it down. I'm sure ferrets could be cute. I'm sure we could find a cute ferret. Do we have ferrets in New Zealand? Stoats. You can be stoats. Yeah, you're a stoat. Yeah, a pest. What do we have for ferrets could be cute Do we have ferrets in New Zealand? Stoats Yeah, you're a stoat A nibbly pest

That sounds like you, Megan King Charles is in Australia right now There's a lot of fanfare There's a lot of flags, a lot of people out and about But there's also a lot of people not so keen on the monarchy as well, including an Australian citizen, Megan. Yeah, Lydia Thorpe, I think her name is.

She was heckling the king at the end of his speech. And I think she was taken away or... Taken away. We'll never see her again. She did say, hell of a thing as someone in Parliament to heckle the King. What happened to Lydia? Went out for a ciggy and never came back. Speaking of all things royals though, King Charles' former royal butler has just been in the news recently

by saying that we're all eating burgers wrong. Now, according to him, we should all be eating burgers with a knife and a fork. Well, you're going back through decades, if not hundreds of years of burger consumption. And we've all been doing it wrong, according to this one butler. According to this butler as well. He's like, all the royals, including King Charles, will eat burgers with a knife and a fork. And everyone that comes over to Buckingham Palace, if they're served a burger, will always eat it with a knife and a fork. But there's eating like a Big Mac with a knife and a fork.

No one does that. But then if you go to like a restaurant and they give you one of those huge burgers that topple over, you probably eat that with a knife and fork. Yeah, I agree with you, Megan. Sometimes I will resort to a knife and a fork. If I can't pick it up or put it in my mouth, I'm like, I'm going to have to use the knife and fork. So the royals are eating fancy pants burgers that you need to eat with a knife and fork.

But if anyone's going to Buckingham Palace, you're not going, oh, I'm going to eat this burger with my hands. Yeah. Even though I'm going, like I am the most uncouth person ever, but I'm like, this is definitely a knife and fork situation. But we do get a little ambitious, don't we, with how much we can fit in between two buns. Yeah.

Sometimes you're like, we're pushing too much. So did you have to put a skewer in to hold it all together? Right. Too much. A foundation. That's when you knife and fork territory. We've come accustomed to it though. If you pay like 18 bucks for a burger,

you want something with a skewer because you want a lot in it. So yeah, and then I'm happily eating it with a knife and a fork. And some people eat pizza with a knife and a fork. I'd be known to do that.

Yeah. If you can use your hands over your knives, the hands are the knives and forks of the body, aren't they? Nature's knives and forks. I prefer hands over knives and forks of the body, aren't they? Nature's knives and forks. I prefer hands over knives and forks.

Saves a clean up at the end. Yeah, but I'm always like, where are the hands been? Yeah, I know you are. And sometimes the pizza is like floppy and you don't want all the stuff to fall off it. So you just knife and fork it. Yeah. So I guess, yeah, 4487 on the text, what are you eating with a knife and a fork that maybe would surprise us this morning?

Apples. I don't mind cutting an apple and eating it like that. Wouldn't it be with a fork? You are you eating with a knife and a fork that maybe would surprise us this morning? Apples. I don't mind cutting an apple and eating it like that, wouldn't I? With a fork. You could eat it with a knife and fork. I would, yeah. Orange, did you see a lady just eating a lettuce? Like an apple. Like an apple, yeah.

When you knocked on her door. Yeah, unusual way of eating things as well. But yeah. If you were doing that, I would definitely hide that from public consumption. Oh, there's a stranger at the door. I better put away this lettuce I'm digesting as an apple. This is also about how she's eating it. It's just, that's yuck. Like, there's a stranger at the door. I better put away this lettuce I'm digesting as an apple. It's not so much how she's eating it.

It's just, that's yuck. Like, there's no flavour to it, you know? Oh, so you're not a fan of, no? Just like... You don't think it's weird she's munching in a lettuce,

a full lettuce like an apple? No, it is weird, but like also, it's just yuck. Yeah. I was going to say yuck, but it's not a, you know. Don't offend his favourite food.

Sorry. Lettuce, carrots, hummus. That's right. Oh, and under the hoods. Stuff your unusual things you're eating with knives and forks. Toast? You could eat toast with a knife and fork, couldn't you? Yeah, you could.

Just a simple plain piece. Anything you can eat with a knife and fork. As soon as you put eggs on a piece of toast, you'd eat it with a knife and fork. That's when it's acceptable. However, you remove the egg, then you look like. Puts the spaghetti and baked beans on it. Yeah, you're right. You're having to eat it with... Life and thought.

It's a game changer. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Today's also a big day today. It's World Caps Locks Day, which Jono, we thought, we actually discovered this because I've got a calendar. I've got a Mickey Mouse calendar at home in the bathroom and I was looking at it in the morning and I was like, what are all these days?

And I'm like, surely they are making it up. Like there was all like World Hot Dog Day and all this like surely they are making it up like there was all like world hot dog day and all this opposite day opposite day do they cover off like genuine

world breast cancer day and things like that a few little the big it's an international calendar so they don't get it's hard to get into the nitty gritty

it was the more fun niche one yeah and I was like have they just made all these up turns out no no world caps locks day whatever is actually a thing and it's today we thought you'd enjoy it we put it in our calendar ones. Yeah, and I was like, have they just made all these up? Turns out, no. World Caps Locks Day, whatever, is actually a thing. It's today. We thought you'd enjoy it. We put it in our calendar

because you love sending emails and caps locks. I don't love it. It's just something I do. It's a flaw. We've all got flaws. I get it. And I know some people aren't a fan of it. It's shouting. It really makes a statement on email, doesn't it? Yeah. But if all the crimes going on

On the internet you would have to say This is probably the worst Hands down I would say So we've got a few surprises Up our sleeve today for World Caps Lock Day We'll be celebrating that the way it's intended Definitely probably the only radio show in the market Celebrating World Caps Lock Day today

Oh yeah, original content How much Caps Lock content have you got planned? Something that you'll enjoy, I'm sure. Well yesterday I go through, I go and get acupuncture because I get migraines you know and just doing a, and I've handed that down to

my son. He's like, thanks for passing that on. Of all the things you could pass down to me with your DNA, it's migraines so yeah you can get acupuncture and you know helps with blood flow through your neck to your head which is apparently the cause of migraines and the problem is with acupuncture is i'm lined up because uh she'll put like needles in and then she attaches it to like this electric machine which sends electric pulses to your nervous system. Okay. Just gentle, very gentle ones.

Yeah. And the problem is it's very relaxing. She's lying there for three quarters of an hour, and I'm a dozy guy, sleepy Joe, sleepy Jono. Yeah. So as he stops talking, have you noticed that? Like he's either full talking, or when he stops, he goes to sleep. Yeah.

He stops for more than 30 seconds, he falls asleep. Happened a couple of times last week. It's like a wind-up toy, one of those little wind-up toys. It says it stops, he's out. But if not, he can't sit in silence. It happened on the Never Have You Ever Tour, on a flight we were taking. Boom, just out like a light. But the problem

is, when you go out like a light and you're in such a deep slumber, you wake up and you're like, I'm drooling. Yeah. First, and you're like, oh, what have I been doing? You have no idea. And you look at the time and you're like, I'm drooling. Yeah. First, and you're like, oh, what have I been doing? You have no idea. And you look at the time and you're like, geez, this has been a long, this is 45 minutes.

Have I been thrashing around? Because I jerk too. You know when I'm a jerk and when you sleep. Do you guys do that? You're a jerk when you're awake too. You and I do that. And you jerk yourself awake And this lady I'm not

Of that relationship with her Where I can go What was I doing while I was asleep Was I saying anything in my sleep Was I thrashing around She's got some great information on you That's for sure Has she been filming

Is there a security camera She can do a lot I'll be very careful What you do with her. She's got some hard evidence on you. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. It's over two and a half weeks to get 10 out of 10 in a row. And we finally did it yesterday.

So that left, you know, great achievements. It was a great achievement, but it also left a gaping hole in the radio show. That was your big concern. Oh, yeah. And to be honest, I was really enjoying starting the day with that so I feel like we could come back to it at some stage but right now...

We do make the rules, you know. Yeah, true. No one really said... If you want to keep doing the New Zealand Herald daily quiz, that's on you.

I actually felt like I learnt quite a lot from it over the last couple of weeks. But is that information that you're like, oh yeah. I was trying to think

of a question in my mind I could quiz you out of all the questions we had. No, but I feel like you'll start talking. Most expensive painting was done by... That was bloody Da Vinci, wasn't it?

Da Vinci, yeah. When was Julius Caesar assassinated? It wasn't in there. 44 BC? Oh, it was. We heard an ad on the radio the other day for Tom York from... Radiohead. From Radiohead.

And we were like, oh, he played the album The Eraser was one of his albums. I remember that now. First debut album. Yeah, exactly. So there's stuff like that. But we've moved on today because Producer Grace

has got us a new quiz. Yes. So it's called Bandle. Now this worries me. When a Gen Zer comes in and is like, I want to play a game with you. I feel like it's set up

to mock the older generation. No, it's perfect. It's all audio based. So perfect for radio. So pretty much it deconstructs a song. So it'll be like drums and then it'll add piano. And then you just have to guess what the song is. Oh, okay.

That's good. So can we guess each time? Yeah. So you get like every go, you get a go to guess. The problem is as a radio host, it's really embarrassing when you don't get music questions right. Because all your job is just playing music all day. Okay, so here's the first one.

Oh, that's, um... What's my... Who sings that song? Jennifer Lopez? What's the one I'm trying to think of? It has 1.6 billion views on YouTube. Is Taylor Swift?

Absolutely not. No. Okay. Go to the next one. Not Jennifer Lopez. This is the easy one, guys. Not the hard ones. Now, do we...

I play the bass version, do I? Yes, you play the next step down. Oh, so this is part of the same song. Okay, right. Coolio, Gangsta's Paradise. Yes. Oh like this game. I'm terrible at it but I like it so this next one is harder it has 1.1 billion views on YouTube and it was

made after I was born so give me a vast I thought I'd give a vast so you were 19 are you a 2002? 1 so after 01

oh no all drums sound the same when you just hear drums. That's where it started, I thought I had to. Yeah, same. And then I was like, no, I don't. Sounds like someone, a neighbour, like, oh, God, he's playing the drums. Just some 45-year-old trying to relive their youth.

I can't get it from the drums, I don't think. Okay, let's go to the next part. Okay. Uh-huh, uh-huh. It's not Jay-Z, eh? Is it Jay-Z? No, no. I knew you were all set, uh-huh. It's not Jay-Z, eh? Is it Jay-Z? No, no. I knew you were on that too.

Yeah. You'll know it. Oh, you can help us on the text 4487 if you think you know it. I feel like we should know that. Should we come back or should we carry on? Do we play the song? A bit, like, eventually. Okay, let's come back.

Oh, no, but like on the radio. Um, yeah. Like, we'll get in trouble with the boss if we put it in after we guess it. No, you wouldn't get in trouble, I don't think. 4487 on the text. We'll come back to that in just a second. Play. The hits.

The Jono and Ben podcast. Turning to Custer got negative connotations. I love Custer. 487 on the text. We'll come back to that in just a second. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Turning to custard got negative connotations. I love custard. I love custard as well. You turn anything to custard, I'll pour it on an apple pie and I'll eat that custard. Turning to custard always seems a benefit. Well, yeah, right. The other day you said, what did you say?

Oh, hard case. That person's hard case. Patricia Grace, who's with us right now, she's like, what does that mean? What does hard case mean? Hard case. Difficult person. Hard case. Patricia Grace, who's with us right now, she's like, what does that mean? What does hard case mean? Hard case. Difficult person. Hard case to work with. And I can see exactly why you'd think it would be difficult, because a hard case to crack

would be something that was difficult. Some people are saying when things go bad, you need something comforting to cheer you up. Like maybe that's where the custard comes in. Oh, turning to custard. It's like, I'm turning to the custard. Oh, for custard. But custard feels like it's got a bad rap.

Oh, it does. I bloody love custard. If you can mainline custard into my veins, I'll do that. I can't even remember the last time I had custard. It's such a weird British thing. What a weird word. Custard. We're eating custard. All the time.

I love custard. You know, when you get the milk container of it, I'll just pump it straight into my mouth. Do you know what I like? It's been a decade since I've had custard. I reckon probably. Have you had that old school like Edmunds, it's a powder. Alright guys, we're getting away on ourselves.

Now this conversation is turning to custard. 10 years since you've had custard. I would be. I couldn't remember the last time. What about a custard square? Legit. I mean, I would probably enjoy it, but I couldn't remember the last time I had one. Reintroduce your palette to custom, my friend.

Yeah. Okay, so we're in the middle of a music trivia game this morning. Producer Grace has brought it to our attention. It starts off a song with just the drums

and we add more to it. What is this song? I thought it was New York, Jay-Z, and Alicia. Just that first drum. Yeah.

I can see. I can give another clue. Well, should we hear the bass and synth? Oh, it's on the tip of our tongues. All right, add the next part of the song, please. What's your clue? No, no, clue. Clue, 2012. Oh, that's... It's very part of the song, please. What's your clue? No, no, clue. Clue, 2012.

No, that's... It's very that era. Oh, okay. I can't even remember last week. Oh, God. This is with the piano. Oh. Okay.

This is really frustrating. Do you have any idea? I... No, short answer. Oh, okay. This is really frustrating. Do you have any idea? I, no, short answer. This is with the guitar. It feels so familiar to me. These are doing nothing. I feel like it's a female artist.

No, it's not. It's a fan. It's a fan. Like Fall Out Boy or that era. Kind of that. My Chemical Romance. Not as like, crunchy. Oh my God, this is frustrating, isn't it? Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. It's when the demons lie. It's when the demons lie. Who is that? I don't even know who that is. Imagine Dragons. Imagine Dragons. It's a good game, Grace. It's a good game.

It's a frustrating game. Yeah. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast. Liam Payne from One Direction. The sad passing of him. 31 years old. It's just really, really sad. It happened at the end of last week as well.

Producer Ellie, you're a huge One Direction fan, as was many, many people around New Zealand. It's really hit you quite hard. Yeah, it's hit me harder than I thought it would. Not that I thought about it, but when I found out, it was obviously a shock. Shed a few tears and stuff. But then over the

weekend after we got back from our tour and stuff and I was just sitting there thinking about it and watching old videos I just genuinely have been grieving and it's quite hard to compute as well because obviously never met Liam um never met One Direction but they had such an impact on my youth and many other people's youth as well. They were such a great group, and I think I'm grieving for the pain that Liam was obviously in. You know, the drug and alcohol addiction he was facing is just tragic, and I think that comes down to being famous as a young person and not having support.

That's the thing. You catapult these kids into superstardom and the scrutiny of the press. Exactly. You know, everything's on public display. Yeah, and these guys were kind of in the first round of when social media really was a thing. They really launched into that 2010, 2011 era

where social media was becoming quite big, and I feel like they were kind of one of the first groups to face that. And I think another thing we're grieving as fans is the possibility of One Direction reuniting is kind of gone, and I think that's another thing people are, especially me, I'm like, wow. I just always assumed we'd see them again one day. I just knew they would because they were only actually on a hiatus. They never actually broke up.

It was really just a break because it was too much for them, obviously. So we were all like, oh, yeah, they'll come back. It'll be sweet as. And now I think we're all grieving that. But then also the tragedy of Liam and his story. It's just awful. And his poor son, son bear seven years old like that's old enough to comprehend what's happened and what's gone on and that really shapes and affects the childhood it does you look at you talk about fame and as

you say like there's probably a lot of musicians that would be so thankful for their fame and how well that their careers have gone but then obviously there's the flip side, which you talked about, you know, and the support that maybe wasn't there. Totally. Through the whole, and, you know, we've got into a whole of watching old clips of him on, you know, X Factor and stuff where he's just a young kid, 14 at first. Then at 16 came back two years and, you know,

and he's there with his family and he gets through and it's such an emotional, amazing moment. But then you're like, you pause it there and you're like, if they could take that moment back, that family, would they take it take it back totally you know don't be an electrician or something but you know but that it was the biggest thing in his life and he went on to be part of one of the biggest groups ever you know it just makes you think about those things it does and i think it actually is a good it's a show of like being famous sometimes isn't as cool as it might look like it's actually quite a lonely place and not many people understand what it's actually like. You can see old interviews of him talking

about his mental health and you can even see in his brain he doesn't want to reveal it too much because he's famous and it probably looks like, oh, you know I've got everything in the world and you're whinging. But no, just because you've got money, it doesn't actually mean that you're happy and whole as a person.

So yeah, I'm just really, really sad and I'm just, for my fellow Directioners out there, I'm with you. And it is okay to be sad about it because they were a huge part of our life. And you go, do you need an age limit? Do you need an age limit on sending kids out as musical superstars?

Like adults barely comprehend that level of fame, let alone 14, 15 year olds. Exactly right. But how are you going to tell someone that really wants to do it? I think it's less to do with them wanting to do it and more to do with how we support and we treat people. Yeah, true. Amen, yeah.

I think it's important to think about how you act online. Even just looking at videos of Lemmy, there was a lot of commentary recently of just cringe compilations, et cetera. And even just viewing those can have an impact on him because he'll see, oh, that one had a million views. That hurts. It hurts a lot. And it's true that you're wearing a One Direction T-shirt

you purchased over 10, 12 years ago. Probably about 12 years. I have grown up and out a bit, if you know what I mean. But then you're like, my boobies are too big for this T-shirt now. And this is before the show. Ben and me are like, and you're like, my boobies are too big for this T-shirt now. And this is before the show. Ben and me are like, and you're like, look at all their faces.

They're stretching now thanks to my big breasts. And Ben and me are like, we can't look. Don't look. I don't know what band you were on. Focus on the emails. I don't know.

Look at Harry's face. He looks like it's all stretched over. Boys look like they've aged and they've partaken in a lot of plastic surgery. They've all had facelifts. And I'm not looking. I can't look. I'm not going to look.

I will wear this, all right? I'm not wearing it. It's a great top. Yeah, see. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The Riddler. We like to do this once a week where we try and test you on 0800 THE HITS

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Yeah, sometimes I do like to test you. I'm going to throw you out a quick riddle, see if you guys can get this one for the room, then I'll put one out on our 100 Bats. That wasn't a no, Jono. No, so it's exactly what he said. I think it's a race between the two of you to get the answer. Oh, okay.

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Hi, Ferns. Congratulations to them. They won the T20 World Cup, and there was a really awesome moment. They were celebrating after the game, but all the teams stood on the field. Mila Kerr, who's the captain, she had the guitar out as well. She was a man of the series, player of the series, sorry. And she had the guitar out, and they all sung along. Have a listen. Awesome, eh?

It's really, really cool. Special moment. They're still on the field. Imagine if the groundskeeper or whatever is like, hey, how much longer are you guys going to be here? I've got to lock up the stadium. Congratulations. Yeah, you're right. Well, they went in the dressing rooms.

They were cranking out Journey. They were singing that and all sorts. Don't stop believing. It was pretty cool. The end groundskeeper comes in. Hey, guys. Sorry, don't want to keep raining on your parade. Don't need to lock up the stadium.

Now we are nearing the end of the show. And can we just please, can I ask you both, and everyone on the team, let's not have a repeat of what happened yesterday. Because I'm sitting here in the middle yesterday, caught in crossfire conversation. Now, to bring you up to speed, Formula One was on, Megan and producer Ellie, big Formula One fans,

they're watching Liam Lawson on the television. Yeah, he's done great. He was done great. He was killing it. But at the same time, there's other big issues at play. There's a new Wi-Fi network here at work, and we're all trying to connect to that. And Ben, that was becoming the bugbear of your morning.

You're trying to connect with Producer Grace to the Wi-Fi network. Yeah, I was getting my way through it as well. While Liam Lawson is racing. You were two or three steps behind that, bro. I was, yeah. Mumbling away. I'm sit middle on the halfway line

of these conversations and this is what it sounds I'll just play the audio of what it sounded like to me. Okay? So what's this? I'm going to find it. Oh!

Sorry. Oh! He did it! Nicely done. Oh! I've been sending my passwords I've downloaded it here. He did it! Nicely, though. He did it. Oh! God, this is so strange. I've been sending my passwords. I've done it over the years.

Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, so I wasn't quite as... Allow. You know, I captivated my lead. It was awesome. Don't get me wrong. But in that moment, I was just like, I just need to get on the Wi-Fi.

It's been here since 5 o'clock. I need to get on the Wi-Fi. Now, in all seriousness, I was like... Who's recording? I was recording. I was like, Who's recording? I was recording. I was like, this is comical. Also, you missed the fact that our boss was standing in the corner waiting to have a meeting.

Yeah, and then the meeting started, too. And then we're over here. We're talking about Dilma. And then there's Wi-Fi passwords, Formula One, and a Dilma conversation going on as well. There's a lot. There's a lot for my little brain to handle. Sometimes you find that, though, when there's a lot of people.

And then people will, like, dinner party, party. And then people will start breaking off into their own little brain to handle. Sometimes you find that though when there's a lot of people, you know, and then people will like, dinner party, party, and then people will start breaking off into their own little groups as well because it's too hard when you're like yelling across it. To be honest, I thought everyone was watching. I had no idea there was other stuff going on. I didn't know what conversation to be a part of. I just started nodding. I figured I guaranteed to adopt someone's hat.

I don't know what was going on, but let's just keep it one conversation to the room. Well, yeah, there's a lot going on. I mean, I was the great Liam Lawson, but I need just keep it one conversation to the room. Okay. Well, yeah. Well, there's a lot going on. I mean, I was the great Liam Lawson, but I need to get the Wi-Fi service. And you got connected to the Wi-Fi. That was a win.