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The Hits, with the Jono and Ben podcast.
Cheers to Dilma, making the world a better tea.
A cold surge to hit New Zealand, but particularly this month, it's going to get a wee bit cold,
but I guess we are heading into those winter months.
It's the time of year, isn't it?
We should be surprised by it, really, should we?
Dark and cold and cosy at night.
Welcome back, Megan Pappas.
Looking like, I won't lie, you're looking like you've been You put through the ringer
You poor thing
Dragged
Yeah
I feel
I feel like it's early
Yeah
I feel a bit rough
Yeah
But I'm here
Tender
Yes
Nice to be here
You had sent a message
To the WhatsApp group
Stating that you had a tummy bug
And I just connected dots
A stomach
Yeah
Stomach bug
Yeah
What did you even say
I think it was just like
A sore stomach or something.
Did I say tummy bug?
Yeah.
So I assumed it was the worst of the worst.
And Ben and Taylor were saying I was spouting misinformation all morning.
Yeah, have a listen.
We've got some highlights because you probably missed it yesterday.
I don't know if you were tuned in.
Yeah, no, I didn't actually listen to the show.
I missed it.
For the whole three hours.
Maybe you just caught pockets of it.
I don't know.
But I'm sure here was
some of the stuff
Jono was saying yesterday
about you.
Of course, we're back.
Well, Megan Puppet's
not back this morning.
She's away.
Yeah, sent a WhatsApp message
1.36am.
Come down with some gastro.
Has she got gastro in the house
or is she just making
a wonderful play
to have five days off?
Well, she's very committed
because she sent the gastro message
at 1.36am.
So if this is an elaborate plan, well, it's been fully thought through.
She didn't even say that in the text.
She said she's got a sore stomach.
All right.
I just made up.
And I've been meaning to say that to you every time you've mentioned it.
You're like, gastro, gastro, gastro.
Explosive diarrhea right now as we speak.
So sorry, Megan.
Words like explosive didn't need to be thrown into the mix.
I mean, I could give you details, but I feel like you don't really want them.
Is explosive a good description?
Yeah.
It's good description.
It's too early in the morning for this.
No, I actually set my alarm for 1.30 to message you to get that extra day.
Good on you.
It was worth it.
Great play, great play.
Great play then, back to sleep.
In that chapter of your parenting career where tummy bugs are a thing, I remember it too.
Oh, it's the worst.
But you forget it so quickly.
I remember the one thing where we're all down. I remember it too. Oh, it's the worst. But you forget it so quickly. I remember the one thing
where we're all down.
No one could move.
I was just sitting on the couch
with Oscar as a baby
and he just went projectiled
on my face.
It was going down my face.
And I was just sitting there
marinating in it
and I couldn't move.
And I was like,
well, I guess this is
the next 10 minutes.
I just sat there
just contemplating life.
It's amazing how much
you learn to tolerate that
when you're in it.
You're like, oh, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've ended up with all kinds of things all over my clothes,
and you're just like, whatever.
Did anybody else get it in the household?
They had it before me, and I was so smug.
I was like, I've made it through.
I always call it mum immunity, but no.
But it didn't happen.
I had it last year.
And as a parent, I remember taking a flight.
We were visiting family in the States, and it was a long flight.
Just after it started, one of my daughters just projectile-bombed it all over me.
I didn't know of the T-shirt.
You can't go shirtless on a flight either.
So you're like, I'm just going to have to sit in this.
That's a good reason to go shirtless, though.
If anyone's asking, well, I'll be here.
Yeah, I had to buy one, and we had to stop over at the airport.
A very expensive T-shirt at the airport.
And probably not a good one either.
You never wore again.
Thanks for visiting Nevada.
Well, cool, I only went through the airport anyway,
but the T-shirt's very memorable to me.
Oh, well, you get through it and it's a vague memory one day.
But at the moment, it's a very raw, fresh memory.
Yeah, I'm not ready to laugh about it quite yet.
I will be.
Do you need us to play really long songs this morning? Maybe.
Yeah, I'll let you know.
You're just saying while
Bruno Mars was singing that song that he's
in some debt. Yeah, serious gambling
debt, the poor guy. From what I understand,
it's just my friends on TikTok were
telling me, no, he's
for MGM, the casinos in Vegas,
he's got a residency there.
And there were rumours he was in debt to MGM,
up to $70 million.
And he performs there every weekend, we were saying, Grace.
He performs at one of the casinos,
which is owned by MGM, every weekend.
And he earns $90 million a year from that.
But they're saying, the insiders,
saying that a lot of that's going back to paying back his gambling. Loves the pokies.
That'd be so sad,
wouldn't it? Yeah. And also the
worst place for him to be. Yeah, well that's right.
To get over his gambling. But then he'd be like, oh I've got
regular work and pokies.
Yeah, I know. It is the
honestly the worst possible situation for him to be
in. Because he's like, and I love
if I have one blackjack game away.
Terrible, isn't it? I don love If I have one blackjack game away Terrible isn't it I don't
I have never really
I've fluttered on the pohies
Every now and then
But I've never really
Got into
Gambling
But I suppose though
Once you
Yeah
Once it's your thing
It's your thing
It's become your thing
Hey I mentioned before
That you were not feeling well
Yesterday
Megan
Yeah
And Courtney Kardashian
Or
Kardashian Barker,
she wasn't feeling great the other night,
and she said, I just pounded a glass of breast milk
because I felt sick.
Oh, yeah.
And then she's like, good night.
Apparently she reckons it makes her feel better.
Pounded a glass.
Of her own.
Yeah.
Her own.
I guess it's of her own, yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, it's...
Oh, I'm not ready for that conversation.
Yeah, I feel odd about drinking substances that have come out of my body.
Yeah.
I've accidentally tried it.
It's quite sweet.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't pound a cup full.
Pound a cup full.
Probably settles it.
Well, they do say mother's milk.
Yeah.
Conjunctivitis, it fixes that on babies, doesn't it?
Squirt it in their eye.
Yeah.
Also, she tried it once.
She squirted it on her Kim's leg.
I think she had sort of psoriasis or something on her leg.
Apparently, it's meant to help with that.
I don't know how recommended it is from any world health organizations
about drinking it to settle your tummy.
Oh, I just, yeah, your own.
No, no, I'm not down for that.
How did she squirt it onto her sister's leg?
Just from a bottle?
I guess it was from a bottle.
Yeah, I think it was.
You can squirt it from your boob.
Yeah, you can. You can, yeah. I don't know if that was in keeping up with the kardashians
maybe it was i don't know i haven't seen it i haven't quite kept up with the whole series
um but keep running away from it yeah but i haven't seen the one where she squirted breast
milk on her sister's leg no i haven't seen that either apparently that that's something they did
so you wouldn't you wouldn't have done it even in your darkest, darkest times yesterday? I'm actually still off milk, let alone breast milk, to be honest.
We're talking about some stuff that I would imagine was making your stomach feel a little sensitive right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A bit fragile.
Walking on broken glass today, poor old Megan, after a rough 48 hours.
And the body's amazing, isn't it?
What it can actually heal.
And nature, too.
Because if you get stung by the jellyfish, there's the rumour that you just pee on someone's leg
and it'll settle down the stink.
You definitely want to confirm
have you been stung by a jellyfish?
And do you consent to be weighing on you?
We're at the beach
there's a lot of people watching right now.
It would have to be so bad for me to be okay with that.
We like to do this for the 6 o'clock club nice and early in the mornings
because, well, even though we've done it a bit later,
our boss Matt has been like, hey, guys, you can't do this later.
It's a bit raw and real.
This is Things You Can Say in the Bedroom.
And while driving this week as well.
And we'd like to get you involved.
We're going to try something new for the 6 o'clock club.
0800 THE HIT the hits 4487
If you think of something you can say
in the bedroom and also while driving
then we'd love to get your calls on next.
Okay. We'll take
a gamble if anyone's got their brain
in gear at this time of morning. A lot of people are
driving while listening to the show
so you might be now going, hey I could say that now
while driving but also in the bedroom and it'd be
funny in, well one occasion probably.
This is double entendre at its finest.
Sometimes quadruple entendre.
Entendre for breakfast. We put it up on
our Facebook page, about 70 comments
overnight. It's huge.
People just love getting involved in this.
People are naughty.
So this is things you can say in the bedroom and while
driving. Sometimes people do what you do in the bedroom while driving as well.
Versatile.
Both very versatile locations.
Yeah, you're right, actually.
Okay, kick things off there, Megan.
All right.
Slow down.
No need to rush.
Lovely.
Jenny said on our Facebook page, are we there yet?
Are we there yet?
Things you can say in the bedrooms and also while driving.
Merge like a zip?
Can you say that?
I don't think you'd say that in the bedroom, would you?
You don't want any zips anywhere near anything in the bedroom.
No, maybe something else with a zip as well.
I noticed you skipped this one.
Yeah.
I'll leave that to you.
Do you want to do that one?
I'll say it.
Just chuck it in the bag.
I'm feeling very horny today.
Yeah, well, you could, yeah.
Oh, I just filled her up this morning.
These are things you can say in the bedroom and while driving.
0800 HITS if you'd like to participate.
Let me in your wanker.
There's another one along the same lines.
Let's just go wait for this other guy to pull out, then I'll take his spot.
Oh, you've left skin marks all over the place.
Oh, God.
Dad showed me a better way to get there.
This guy's been at my ass the whole time.
Tailgating a nightmare on the road?
Yeah, exactly.
It might be quicker just to pull off.
Oh, God.
Daniel said, conditions are a bit wet and slippery,
but I'll get through no issues.
It's probably quicker if we take the back road.
And Ange said it's an exit only.
So those are things you can say in the bedroom
and also while driving.
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Speaking of Beyonce, I didn't realise she had this,
her and Jay-Z's wedding.
They had Popeye's-Z's wedding.
They had Popeye's chicken at the wedding.
They served it at the wedding as a late night snack for everyone.
I love it when people do that
because that's,
you don't want big plates,
tiny food.
We went to a wedding once
and I tried to act all fancy
and I ordered,
I said I'll just have the jus for the opener
and then the waiter's like,
what, just the sauce.
Well, you knew what he was talking about.
But you know,
in that scenario,
you're like,
chuck out some pizza.
So this was later in the night
where everyone feels
like something a bit later
like that.
And Popeye's Chicken
has now opened in New Zealand,
founded in Louisiana in 1972.
Over 4,000 restaurants
around the world
and 40 markets
and New Zealand's finally
got its first store in Auckland
and another one coming to Taupo
in July.
Is the Colonel shaking
in his chickeny boots?
I don't know.
People queued overnight.
There was about 100 people
when it opened
but some had camped out
through the night
to be the first to try it.
So it's pretty dedication.
It is dedication.
I remember when Dunkin' Donuts
opened as well.
We spoke to a lady
who spent over 36 hours
waiting in line for Dunkin' Donuts.
Now you can just walk in.
I know.
I never understand that.
It's not going anywhere.
It's exciting.
You get together.
You do it.
In a few weeks, you can just wander in.
You can just wander in.
Even today, you probably can just wander in.
But I love this.
One of the quotes from one of the people from New Zealand is very good.
Honestly, I don't even know what I ordered.
I'm just happy I got it.
So there you go.
Hopefully it was chicken. Very good. I guess you go and you don't even know what I ordered. I'm just happy I got it. So there you go. Hopefully it was chicken.
Very good.
I guess you go and you don't really know how to order something for the first time.
You're like, it's burgers, chicken, what do I get?
It's pretty similar to KFC. Yeah, it looks pretty good.
Then you get potato and gravy kind of deal.
And the next one's opening up in Taupo.
Yeah, July.
So very exciting.
Jay-Z and Beyonce, when they come over here, they can pop through.
They can swim by Taupo.
I thought you were going to say they're going to be at the they can pop through. They can swim by a toe pole. Yeah.
I thought you were going to say they're going to be at the toe pole opening.
They'll be there overnight.
Cutting the ribbon.
Yeah.
What would you camp out overnight for?
If something was coming to New Zealand?
It'd probably be to try and meet someone.
Would it be a concert or a – would you ever camp out for a concert?
Nah.
Nah.
Same thing.
I'm like, well, if you just wait, you'll just wander through the gates. No, but I guess if you want to get at the front, maybe you would.
Yeah.
Back in the day, maybe.
I could see myself do it.
Like you say, Olivia Rodrigo comes to New Zealand.
Okay.
You'd camp out for Olivia Rodrigo?
Well, if my daughter's like, hey, I want to get at the front and do it, I'd be like,
yeah, sweet, we'll do it tonight.
Surely she's coming one day.
Oh, yeah.
But if that was the difference of getting close or at the back and my daughter wanted
Now we're just going to make you do it.
Oh, we are.
If Olivia Rodrigo Cubs we are setting
you up in a tent
by yourself
without your
daughters
so you look
like a creep
grown man
I can't do it
no
with all the
other tweens
no
that's weird
watch your
favorite song
I'd say that
my daughter
was you know
one of my
daughters was
like hey
you want to
do this
and I'd do it
we'll hold you
to that if Olivia Rodrigo comes.
Okay, sounds good.
There's rumors she's coming.
It's on TikTok.
Surely she's got to come.
But we'll see.
We'll see if that happens.
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I went to the warehouse last night.
I opened till like 10 o'clock at night at the warehouse.
What time did you go?
Oh, it was only like 7 o'clock at night.
All right.
Still, that's a
It's a late visit
To the warehouse
Yeah
Kmart's often open
Till midnight
Or 24 hours
Some stores
Ben likes going at like
10 or 11 o'clock at night
To Kmart
No one there
No lines
Yeah
Super chill
Sometimes we walk back
From a pub
That we go to
Sometimes you walk
Past the Kmart
And you go
Let's go in there
It's actually quite fun.
Dangerous drunk shopping.
Yeah, drunk shopping.
A great reality show, I reckon.
Then you wake up the next morning like,
why did I buy this?
I didn't need a mattress.
Yeah, it's quite fun.
So yeah, we went to the warehouse last night
and obviously they're gearing up for winter.
There's lots of heaters.
There's all sorts of blankets.
They've got giant blankets, big furry blankets and big bins.
And there was a gentleman in the warehouse testing out the blankets
by rubbing his face on them.
And I thought, oh, that's an interesting method.
He didn't look out of sorts or anything.
So these are the blankets, right?
These are like, you know, fluffy blankets
that you'd have on the couch or something like that.
And I suppose, I don't know what percentage of time
his face spends on his blankets
compared to the rest of his body,
but obviously a lot more than your average person.
But I feel like your hand can, you know, figure it out.
I rub a finger through a blanket, yeah,
just to get the feel and texture of it.
But you can imagine what it would feel like on your face
just by using your hand.
But we might have had it wrong.
Rubbing your face on it might be the tried and true method
of testing blankets.
But do you want to buy a blanket that a dude's been rubbing his face on?
Yeah, I don't know whose face has been on my blanket all the time.
It's like when you buy underpants.
You're like, how many people have actually tried these on?
Hopefully with the undies on
Yeah
Well yeah I don't know
I don't know
How often
I guess females try on probably a bit more underpants
Than males do right
I don't try on undies
Right
No
They've got that tasteful little piece of plastic
Yeah
Generally you just like try your luck
And then you get them home
And you're like oh no
These are not for me
Yeah it feels like that right
Yeah
Undies is not a take it to the changing room try no in fact i went under the hits four four eight seven
have you do you try on your underpants in the dressing room i don't think i ever have
no i don't think i do you know your size you grab your bun the hits the jonah and ben podcast
underpants can you try them on in the changing room do you try them on in the changing room
where uh we're none from three no not none of us do no uh you know your size you know you know what works what doesn't work do
you sometimes pick underpants and you get home then you're like not for me megan yeah what are
you based on i just rock kmart undies and sometimes you get a pair and you're like yes and you go back
and you try and find some more and then you can never find them yeah right or you buy some and
you're like actually no these are how do you know when they're a good pair well
they ride up your bum yeah right you know so you want that i don't want that you don't want that
i don't want that well no like if you're gonna get like a g-string then it just stays there
but you don't want your like slipping undies to slip it slip in the caves yeah i see that the
g-string must be a very uncomfortable piece of clothing right so it
doesn't cause you any distress during the day you know what you're in for you know what frustrates
me about underpants if you've got the uh yeah the elastic waistband which is attached to the
material bit of the actual pant of the underpant yeah then it rips every time you know you get
those holes along the elastic band then i Then you try and hold on to them.
Then eventually it gets so half your butt cheek showing.
And you've really got to throw them in.
You've been like, they're not supposed to last two years, Jono.
What's your turnaround on a pair?
Probably, I don't know, I'd like to say six months to a year.
Six months?
That would be like.
I'd make you very sad
if I told you how long.
Really?
Yeah, years.
Some of my last a lot.
Some of my faves.
Yeah, some of my faves
have gotten better throughout.
Oh, I don't know that.
So, do you actually try them on
in the changing room?
Carol's phone through.
Definitely not.
Feels like an unusual item of clothing to try on.
But they do have changing rooms in those lingerie shops, don't they?
Yeah, maybe more for the top half.
For the bras, yeah.
I would imagine.
But I guess you can.
Technically you can in those stores, but you're meant to keep your undies on, aren't you, Megan?
Yeah.
But you'd buy a pair of undies and then if they're good you go back and try and buy some more, Carol?
No, I usually roughly know what size I need and I go in and find them and then get out.
Get out!
I don't like lingering in that section either.
No, get in.
Everyone's watching.
And I mean to try on underpants, if you are trying them over your usual underpants, that's not the right setting.
So you're not getting a good gauge on how they fit on you.
So you have to clear
the banks to try them on properly.
Jesus, we're up.
Can I just say something to you guys?
Yeah, you can.
I start work at 6 o'clock
7 days a week
and when I get into my car,
especially Monday to Friday
and you guys are on and I might be
feeling tired or a wee bit down,
you guys make the start of my day absolutely amazing.
Oh, that's so lovely of you to say.
It is lovely.
It's actually really nice.
I'm feeling vulnerable, Carol.
You're going to make me cry.
Yeah, thank you, Carol.
It would have been a wonderful rug pull if you're like,
I start my morning every day and I'm feeling tired
and you make me feel 10 times worse.
But no, I really appreciate you sharing that.
Carol, we love having you listening from that giant hurricane you're currently in.
Okay, Ben.
Love your work, Carol.
It's lovely.
I do find, your mum used to do this back in the day.
Can we just put the Carol's hurricane down just for a second?
Did your mum used to make you just try on stuff
in the store if the changing rooms were already busy mama do that all the time oh just take your
shirt off in the middle of the store whatever it was it was like yeah she's like just try it on
here but like mom there was no more excruciating experience than going shopping with your mom
now now my poor dad is to do it. He gets all frosty.
He like tries on pants and he's like, I can't do this with them.
And he's like lifting up his knees.
It's just like, when do you ever lift your knees?
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Back after the school holidays.
I hope you're getting back into the routine.
All right.
Now Jono has basically put something together at home
and he's also panicking for some audio as well.
Well, I loaded some audio and it disappeared off the old computer there,
but don't worry, we found it in a fluster.
Can't wait.
So I have one of those brains I don't know about.
So you seem like a quite practical person, Megan.
Yeah, probably.
Ben, I know who runs the construction side of things
in your household my wife yeah she's very good at it she'll uh she'll assemble things paint things
renovate things uh and i my my brain for whatever reason just can't comprehend the process of
assembling something okay you know i just don't i whatever, I just don't have that brain.
And every time I approach these projects, I'm like, maybe this is the time.
This is the one where you nail it.
You know, you read the instructions properly, you follow them,
and you complete the project without any hiccups.
Oh, so you are like reading the instructions and attempting to do it.
No, I start reading and then I veer off and I've got very poor concentration levels.
My mind is all over the place.
And then I'm also very impatient too,
so I'm like, just get it done.
Yeah.
And so I feel the quickest way to get the thing done
is ignore the instruction and just, yeah.
So then nowadays when you put,
so I had to assemble a poppy's netball hoop on Sunday.
Which doesn't seem like a lot of pieces.
I would have thought in a netball.
I know, pretty self-explained.
There's a hoop and a pole.
Yeah, you kind of know how it's got to look before assembling, right?
Out of all the sporting apparatus to assemble,
it's definitely at the lighter end of the scale.
I think the same thing.
I'll back myself on that one.
Yeah.
And so now you can just scan a QR code on the thing
and it'll take you to a YouTube video of an American guy
telling me how to put
a netball hoop together.
That frustrated me
in the first instance.
But then,
have a listen to this guy
and I started to grow
to slowly hate him.
Before we begin
the assembly process,
let's take a look
at the tools you'll need
to complete the job.
Okay.
You'll need
a Phillips screwdriver.
Got one.
Pliers.
Done. Adjustable wrench.
Bang.
A piece of scrap wood or cardboard.
Don't know why. And a rubber mallet.
Okay. Start by taking
the plastic sleeve off of the top pole
that's inside the middle pole.
Couldn't even do that properly.
I couldn't rub the plastic out of the pole,
it was stuck in the bottom. Oh, really?
Make sure that the domed end on the top pole
is on the same side as the square hole in the middle pole.
And he's moving to a corner. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm searching the poles. You know you can pause it. You can pause it. Insert the pole joint is on the same side as the square hole in the middle pole and he's moving too quick you know you can pause it and then i pause it and i can't rewind it then you go back
to the beginning and i was just so i detested this man by the end of it uh and i eventually
ended put it in this without i'm not even doing this for comedic effect i put the netball hoop on the wrong way round and upside down.
How
do you even end up there?
And then I had to dismantle Oscar's old basketball hoop
because it was rusting and was falling to
pieces. And I was swearing
and I was throwing things around. Gemma's like,
I'm taking the kids out for a walk.
And then as she left, the basketball hoop
tipped over, knocked over the recycling bin,
all the bottles All over the driveway
So sometimes
It's just easier
To get other people
I just wanted to walk
Into Rebel Sport
And go I'll take
The one that's done
When they let you
Take the display one
It's a great day
For everyone
And sometimes
They give you a discount
They're like oh we
Don't give you that one
Because it's been used a lot
I don't care
I knock 20% off
You're like well great
And I don't have to
Go assemble it
The savings this is doing
For my mental health I don't mind to go assemble it. Yeah. The savings this is doing for my mental health, I don't mind.
Yeah, so there we go.
Did it get done?
It got done in the end.
Yeah, I did make it there.
She's shooting a netball through a hoop.
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Said Mike Myers, you know, the actor from Shrek, from Wayne's World,
Austin Powers.
The headline is almost unrecognisable.
Did you click bait?
Click bait.
And then it says in the article,
he turned up to the awards
and he posed for photos with fans.
So obviously he was recognisable.
People recognise him.
What is your personal opinion?
Was he unrecognisable?
He looks very different.
Well, he looks like he's got grey hair come through.
Oh, I thought it was blonde.
I thought he'd gone like, he'd done a bend.
So he's kind of got grey hair coming through.
He's not unrecognisable.
He's unrecognisable.
That's a guy who's probably 20 years older than we last saw him.
And clearly.
No, but that's not going to make you click on the link, is it?
No, and I clicked on it.
And I was like, well, first thing they said,
did we post for photos with fans?
So clearly he's recognisable.
Anyway, there we go.
He looks like very different.
Yeah.
He was, what was his name?
He's not looking like Austin.
He's not going, yeah, baby. Yeah, he's not. He's like, shagadilla. He's like very different Yeah He was He's not looking like Austin He's not going Yeah baby
He's not
Shagadilla
He's like mate
Can we let that go
Yeah
Still makes me laugh though
It does
It does
It almost makes me laugh
As much as when Ben
Does his Borat impersonation
Go on
That's a bit of that
It's not good though
It's not good
Timeless comedy
It's not good
I was away yesterday
In case you didn't notice
And yes I did make it
A five
Five day weekend
But there's a couple of things
That people don't tell you
Before you become a parent
One of them is
How much washing
Like my life
Is just bogged under
With washing
Yeah
The second one is
That you will never have
Andrew also does the washing
As well in the household
He does
Does he? He does Is he the washing as well in the household. He does.
Does he?
Is he the washing guy?
Yeah, why did you feel the need to... Because I didn't want you to stereotype
that the washing was the duty of you and you alone.
No, no, no, no.
He does do the washing, you're right.
But also that you'll never have a proper sick day again
because your kids don't know or don't care that you're sick.
Especially at your kid's age.
Yeah.
So I've got a three-year-old and a one-year-old,
and they'd already been sick and were well and truly over it,
and I thought I'd escaped it, but I got the tummy bug too.
And so I spent a lot of time, without going into detail,
I spent a lot of time with me in the toilet.
And you're just like, Mum, he's just going to go.
And you're like, dear God, what is happening to me?
Leave me.
Was that important?
Whatever fell out then?
Three-year-old just wanted to always come with me.
And I'm like, no, if there's ever a time where Mum needs to be by herself,
it's in this moment.
And he has the cheek to be like, poo-wee.
And you're like, can you actually?
It's just another room to the end.
My daughter decided in the night that she was crying
and wanted cuddles only from mum.
So I had to literally keep putting her down.
She would be crying so I could take bathroom breaks
at like one o'clock in the morning.
I'm like, what is life?
What happened to just having a sick day?
I just don't care.
Who needed cuddle and cry?
You wanted to cuddle and cry.
Yeah, I did.
In the fetal position.
It was like, we almost need like a babysitting service
because no one you know,
like the grandparents aren't coming over.
If you've got a tummy bug in the house,
they're not coming over to look after the kids.
But I was like, you almost need like an insurance
or like a babysitter service
That takes the kids away
So you can just be sick
That's a great business idea
They come over in hazmat suits and things
Take the kids
That won't traumatise the children in any way
You're coming with us kids into our van
Masks on
Yeah
And take them
to Rainbow's End or something.
And do that nasty washing for you
because you're feeling sick
and you don't want to do it yourself.
Now they have to do the washing.
It's Andrew's job.
It's a great business idea.
I don't know anyone
that would want to do it.
My friend says as well
that even with that night
it'd be nice to have a babysitter
that came over
and took the kids away
even when you're feeling well
and so she could just
have a night at home.
The Hits.
The Jono and Ben podcast. He's been warned to prepare feeling well. And so she's going to just have a night at home.
He's been warned to prepare for a cold surge.
Winter's going to turn the switch on.
Apparently this week onwards, it's looking a little colder.
Dear Megan, someone slid into your DMs again, Megan.
They have.
And this is a tricky one.
Because you're him.
Anyway, I'll hand it over to you.
All right.
Well, I'll read it out and then we can discuss. This is the Dear Megan.
Hiya, Jono, Ben and Megan.
I have an issue for your Dear Megan segment.
I am the cool auntie and my nephew often comes to me with stuff in his life that he often doesn't tell his parents.
And he has told me that he has Instagram and his parents don't know.
He's only 11, so he's not really supposed to have it.
And his parents are against him having social media until he's older.
His account is private, and he only has one or two posts.
He says he just uses it to follow other people mostly.
Now I know this information, what do I do?
Do I betray his trust, because I feel like it will be obvious that I told his parents,
but also I feel like his parents would want to know.
Eek, help please.
Oh, tough.
You do want to hold your street cred and your mantle as the cool auntie,
don't you?
Yeah.
But then you're right.
They're going to be like, if they find out, they're like, you knew?
You'll be like, oh, yeah.
No, but just go, what?
No, but just go, this is the first I've heard of it.
Shocker.
Shocker.
I know, but the kid will probably say something. I told such and such. Yeah, but just because it's the first I've heard of it. Shocker. Shocker. I know, but the kid will probably say something.
I told such and such.
Yeah, but yeah.
You don't want to lose your street cred.
It's not often as an adult you get called cool or thought of as cool.
So the longer you can hold on to that, all fun and games.
It's not your place to dive in.
They'll find out at some point.
Then they can deal with it, the parents.
But also, are you kind of like setting yourself up as the confidant in that area so you can keep tabs on it a little bit you know you can give them
but then would the parents want you to be parenting in that way because it's not your kid
oh so you're saying you take the responsible role here so you can be like okay if you have
any issues with social media come and chat to me about it. Like, you know? Or you set up a fake Instagram account and then tag his mum in on it.
Yeah.
And loop them together and then you've done nothing.
Like, that's a third party that no one knows.
Because do you think in reality, like, if you say you told the parents
and then the parents are like, you can't have it, shut it down,
he's going to do it anyway.
And then he's not going to tell you or the parents.
And it's, I mean, in the grand scheme of things,
it's not as bad as a lot of other things that could be doing.
Like it's not like he's rammerating or vaping or, you know,
like something like that.
And when those incidents, you're probably like,
okay, yeah, maybe I would definitely betray the kid's trust.
Yeah.
Oh, when it comes to rammerating, yeah, I think that's the thing.
You know, a lot of the scenes, yeah.
Oh, listen, I've got to get this rammer.
I stole 100 bucks from a dairy or something.
You might be like,
oh,
actually,
okay.
I mean,
one minute you're setting up
sneaky industry accounts,
next minute,
you're human trafficking
in Eastern Russia.
That's what I've always said.
It's definitely a gateway.
It's a gateway,
isn't it?
So this is what we want
to chuck over
in 0800 The Hits.
What do you do?
What does this person do?
Do they alert the parents?
Betray the trust?
Or?
Set up a fake Instagram account?
Maybe you've had this situation happen to you.
Maybe you've had someone come to you and told you one thing like this
and you've gone, oh, I've got to tell the parents?
Or you've kept a secret?
Megan, you're a secret keeper.
I am.
You're very loyal at keeping secrets.
Yeah, which is why this one, I don't know what I would do.
I feel like, ooh, I don't know what I would do I feel like I don't know
You're quite
You are very loyal
On the secret game
So you
I feel like I would
Keep the secret
I feel like I would
Keep the secret
Yeah
So would I
Leave it to them
Yeah
And just be like
Hey come to me
Just come to me
If you need me
You know
But then the parents
Are going to be like
I know
I just
Deny deny deny
Probably more
To the parents
The hits
The Jono and Ben podcast In the middle of today's Dear Megan Dear Megan are going to be like? I know. I just deny, deny, deny. If you're Lord's, he's probably more worse than the parrot. The hits.
The Jono and Ben podcast.
In the middle of today's Dear Megan.
Dear Megan.
Someone has slid
into Megan's DMs
with a very, very
interesting dilemma
this morning, Megan.
So they are the cool auntie.
Their nephew has told them
they're 11 years old
that they have Instagram
and they're not supposed to.
Their parents wouldn't
be down for it.
So now the auntie's like, do I
betray his trust and tell the parents
or do
I keep his confidence and keep
his secret and maybe just monitor him
being the cool auntie?
Does she relinquish her title as
the cool auntie or now become the narking
auntie? Those are the two options
available. A whole bunch of texts on this. Thank you
for all your texts and advice on
4487. Someone's
suggesting quietly
tell the parents, check the kid's phone, maybe
leave the kid's Instagram account open
on the phone and do it subtly.
Yeah, that's a
good one. Worst things he could be doing
reads this another text. I was
searching up big boobies on the internet when I was 11.
So thank you for that advice there.
And also don't tell the parents as an adult.
He needs to trust an adult.
Every child needs to trust an adult.
I know, I'm so torn.
Another text saying blackmail the kid.
Is it you, John?
Jackie, we'll get you on from Hamilton.
What's your advice for this lady?
Jackie, what's your advice, mate?
I think that she should tell to the child that they need to decide
whether they're going to tell the parents about the Instagram
or just get rid of it because I think she needs to help him
maintain a good relationship with his parents.
And if she betrays him or them, then he's not going to trust anyone
and they won't hear about things that happen.
So I think just put it back on him and say,
come on, mate, what do you think?
You know your mum and dad don't want you to have it,
so I'm going to put that on you.
You either tell them or you take it off.
I don't think it's a good place to get between the parents,
you know what I mean?
I wouldn't be very happy with my sister if she didn't quietly say to me, look, blah,
blah.
Yeah.
And then I'd say to her, yeah, well, I don't like it, so yeah, tell her no or whatever.
But I don't think that's a good way to have a relationship with them.
No, good on you, Jackie.
Thank you.
Russell, Rusty, you're chiming in.
What do you want to say about this?
That's a tough spot, but if it was me,
I think I'd tell the kids to get rid of the Instagram account.
Otherwise, I'll tell their parents.
Oh, like the ultimatum.
Oh, that's not a bad way of doing it because then you haven't betrayed their trust.
Exactly.
And they've got an opportunity to maintain your trust
and you maintain
your cool status.
But they know
they're not supposed to have it.
So they might just go,
oh yeah,
I'd rather just get rid of it
than her tell my parents
or someone like that.
But I feel like
you're going to lose
your cool status
by telling them
to get rid of it.
But then you start vaping in front of them and you regain your cool status.
You're like, hey, have you thought about vaping?
See, I don't mind that idea, though.
It's kind of keeping everyone kind of on your side in a way.
Yeah, it is.
It's an opportunity to, I think both the other options are a lose-lose.
I think this is the only kind of stalemate, the middle ground that might work.
Russell, you're a thoughtful individual, mate.
Really appreciate you sharing this morning.
You go and have a wonderful day, okay?
Okay.
Love your work.
Trish, let's get into it.
Trish, roll your sleeves up.
What advice have you got?
She should keep it secret, but she should talk the boy into telling the parents.
Oh, so she's not actually the one to go break his trust.
No, because she may need to have that trust from him at some stage of his life.
And if she breaks it, he's got nobody.
Yeah, I agree with that.
So gently lead him into telling his parents.
Or you tell your parents or I will,
that got played on me in whip calls
by an undercover shopper
when I shoplifted a Playboy magazine at age 12.
Yeah, but you know what?
You don't need to rely on her later on in life, right?
No, but she never told my parents and I did.
She played you well, didn't she?
And that was the lesson that I learned that day.
Honesty is the best policy at some stage
and an 11-year-old needs to have that honesty
with the parents, right?
Yeah, well, thank you so much for your calls and texts
this morning.
To summarise, what do you think is the best advice here, Megan?
Well, someone texted and said,
the way kids think nowadays,
if you don't keep the secret,
the trust is lost and kids have a very stubborn attitude these days.
I kind of agree.
So I'm going to go with Trish and say,
keep the secret,
but, you know,
encourage him to tell his parents.
Okay.
Well, thank you.
We appreciate everyone's calls
and great calls, great texts.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
Quickly, before we get there,
just ask if I should bring up something
because I think I've had a win at home.
Like I think I've had a win and I want to revel in the win.
Oh, it's not often we get a real win.
It's a real win, like the Crusaders get a real win.
Yeah.
So just a quick back story in our house.
My wife has come up with most of the stuff that looks good in the house.
I'm allowed two shelves with toys and stuff like that. the huge neon light that says your name yeah but very minimal stuff
and she's very good at this sort of stuff but next to our bed um she's got like instead of little
chest of drawers we've kind of got you know little side tables we've got these little sports they're
kind of like little sports lockers or school lockers little pink sort of um sort of a light
pink sort of lockers they look quite cool yeah in my chest
of drawers that i've got my room but broke the drawers all started falling off i had it for years
so i was like i need to replace that so i took it on myself i looked online i was like you can get
big versions of these lockers um and i was like oh cool like a double size same color scheme same
place buy this now turn it into a dressing room like a changing room so i bought this i thought
it was great because it works with everything.
Didn't run it past Amanda.
Man, it's like, why would you make this decision without me?
I've come up with the stuff and I'm like, oh, but I thought, you know, it all ties in.
I know why you've made the decision without her.
It makes sense.
You're like, we've got two of these.
Make a big one.
And then I came home.
For two weeks, this box sat unopened.
Because I was like, I don't know if I should set it up or not set it up.
I don't know where this is at. I'm going to take don't know if I should set it up or not set it up. I don't know where this is at.
I'm going to take it back.
Came home over the weekend.
She had set it up.
It's in there.
And geez, it looks good.
But no one said it looks good.
No one's acknowledged.
It's all set up.
It's in the room.
I'm like, I've got to win.
It's in the room.
But she hasn't brought up the fact that it looks good.
I know it looks good.
She knows deep down it looks good.
But we haven't gone back to the conversation.
What do I do?
You bring up your interior decorating win, my friend.
Just go stand by it and be like, ah.
It looks good.
It looks really good.
This is those moments where you're like, if I can hark back to a conversation we had a fortnight ago,
because I know in arguments your big thing is, let's have a half time.
We both go away, regroup, form better arguments, and then come back and get back into it.
This is your chance.
I feel like it, but then at the same time it's going to look a little petty
if I'm like, you know, so.
But I want that win.
There's only a few of these tentpole moments
through your marriage, Ben.
I'll take it. Hey, well next.
Join us to call her on the radio. Make it public
as well. Oh jeez, we'll see you there.
Oh, now he's backing out.
The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast.
Now Billie Eilish
not coming to New Zealand on their world tour.
Both going to Australia, just been
announced Billie Eilish dates
are a pretty big world tour
that includes every country but
New Zealand pretty much.
Do you think the news of the world's forgotten about us?
Maybe. You know? We had some good
months, good years there with Jacinda.
She was Time magazine, all that sort of stuff.
We had a good period.
The tide turned, didn't it?
I'm kind of hoping she's going to add it on because there is a big gap after Australia
and the schedule.
Yeah, she's been there before, so maybe she'll come back.
We've literally been left off the world map before.
In addition, so they may have forgotten we were a thing.
Now, listen, I'm going to bring up a topic here and I know in my head, my head is telling before in addition so they may have forgotten we're a thing now listen i'm gonna i'm gonna
bring up a topic here and i know in my head my head is telling me to shut up but my heart is
telling me to go on keep talking now it's a scenario that happened to a friend of mine
and uh i was going to make up a story about how i overheard a couple at a cafe but then i was like
well the details of the story are eerily similar to his situation so he'd probably
connect dots i was talking about him anyway so i said can I can I say this now and he
said time has passed silent treatment has been executed lessons have been learned all right you're
fine to talk about okay okay okay so he was in uh discussion with his partner three years they've
been together relatively new in the grand scheme of things, freshish.
And they're having a heated discussion.
He feels in his mind she might be overreacting.
Now, at this point, he goes, well, this is a little out of character for her.
I might just ask her a genuine question.
Look, you're already shaking like Taylor's just
shaking her head
Megan is just like
I'm sure there's people
in their cars
you know where this is going
it's not even Jono
saying it
but you're so like
scared to just
I'm scared to even
bring it up
I'm scared to even
bring it up
I've made this fatal mistake
once in my marriage
and it's
I'll do it once
I'll never do it again
okay
he said
what's up
is it that time of month?
Now, let me, now I know you've got stuff to say.
But his argument was, she usually wouldn't react like this about this topic in another time of the year.
He's like, and he was like, that's a genuine reason for you to be more heightened and
more upset about this thing which you usually would be upset about he's like i just want to
know do i back off what's going on here that's where he was coming from she didn't see it that
way 48 hours of silent treatment and lesson learned now over to you why is it a no-go why
is it a no-go on the argument because he's's, well, first of all, it's not his place to say that.
Second of all, he's completely devaluing her reaction by saying that.
She could genuinely be that pissed at what he's saying.
But he's like, oh, it's just because you're...
It's like when mum used to say, you're just tired.
You're completely devaluing my reaction, you know,
by something that I can't help.
And most of the time, I can
be that grumpy any time of the
month.
He was just
wanting to know, out of interest.
I feel like this is you.
I've created
a fictitious character.
To be honest, there has been moments where I've had like an emotionalitious character to be honest there has been moments
where I've had like
an emotional like
I don't know
like overreaction
and I have said
okay
it is that time of the month
you brought it up
but that's your place to say that
but that's my place to say
yeah I hear you
and I
then I can devalue
and bring down
what I'm
my reaction
but you can't do it
well producer Taylor was saying
you were like
Marcelo's never done it
never will do it
but you can tell there's a look in his
eye. Yeah, he knows when to tread lightly.
But I...
He's like, now's not the time
to say. Yeah, he'll just say... Shush your mouth.
He'll just say, oh, and
smile and I go, shut up.
Walk away. Don't even look at me.
Boy, that would annoy me. Yeah.
Yeah, you're so smug, aren't you?
You think you know what's going on in my body. And sometimes I want to say, actually, what is going on? Marcelo,, you're so smug, aren't you? Oh, what?
And sometimes I want to say, actually, what is going on?
Marcelo, since you're a sex ed teacher, what is actually going on?
But he hasn't said anything.
Well, but, you know, just the smug look.
Okay, so I think we know that's a no.
That's a no-go.
Yeah, that's a no-go.
I think we knew it beforehand, but we've really clarified it now.
What are the argument no-go's?
Have you got a no-go zone when you're having an argument with Andrew and Megan? Yeah, we don't swear
at each other. Oh, that's the best part about arguing.
Alright, so
okay, we'll get to this in just a second.
You don't swear at each other.
4487, what are the argument no-go's?
What are the things that maybe we could all be learning
from your arguments to make them a little
better?
We're in the middle of getting your tips on discussions,
arguments that happen in relationships,
and we want to know how you can navigate those a little better
and what your tips and techniques are.
The big no-go zones and arguments.
My friend learned a powerful lesson last week.
Just don't bring up the cycle.
The monthly cycle is the reason why emotions could be heightened.
I could have told him think you need it.
I could have told him that.
You're right.
Without trying it.
Yeah, but there's actually some really good suggestions coming through on that.
Yeah, great.
So text 4487, couple who schedules their arguments once or twice a week
where you got to pockets where you can discuss stuff that was frustrating you.
I feel like that could go one of two ways.
Either you've thought about it enough that you can have a peaceful, concise conversation,
or you've let it boil up into pent-up anger.
I feel like you just end up giving the silent treatment until the time when you're scheduled to have an argument.
We'll get to that in the scheduled time.
Ben quite likes scheduling events.
Sometimes I don't have time, so it's good to schedule it in.
I like it.
We're going, uh-uh, Not our scheduled arguing time right now.
I'll see you Saturday morning, 10.30am.
If you don't have things to argue about, maybe you find more things.
Yeah, nothing makes you feel more chill than someone going, ah, shh, shh, shh, not yet.
I've got 10 things to bring up with a scheduled argument time.
We'd better whip through them.
Let's get Scott on.
Welcome.
Argument no-goes for you, Scott. What is it
in the Bay of Plenty?
Oh, man. How you guys doing? We're doing really
well, mate. Lovely to have you on here.
Yeah, good. So our no-goes, I mean,
we've been married. My wife and I met when I was a
cruise ship DJ 30 years ago.
And after the ship's
beauticians forced me to cut my permanent mullet.
Mate, you
sounded like a legend. Cruise ship DJ with a mullet and you sounded like a legend DJ with a
mullet if I ever meet you I'll show you the embarrassing photo man I carried a
mullet into the 90s and it was permed and I'm a hobbit as well so what's the
advice so anyway she um we got married young
really and only known each other a few months and given no chance of success had many blowout
arguments the first few years we were married i mean primarily i know it's hard to believe
an american but i was an ass but um so we came we came across this thing that someone else
recommended anytime we have a big argument over a topic, we rate it on a 1 to 10.
And if you're honest with yourself, if my wife says something's a 9 and it's 8 to me, she wins it.
And that's just what we do.
And then every argument we do have, we always try to make sure we always start it like we think someone's got an issue.
We use the word I instead of I think this and all that.
It's pointing the finger at someone else.
But, hey, it's been 30 years in July, so something's worked out.
Oh, good on you.
Ranking the importance of the topic.
Yeah, not bad.
Sometimes you get into the argument and you're like, think to yourself,
this doesn't make, I don't care about, why are we arguing?
I don't care about this.
Hey, Scott, you and your wonderful perm mullet going.
Have a great Tuesday.
Really appreciate your time.
You know, as a narcissistic broadcaster,
I find it very hard to see other
people's point of view sometimes.
But then halfway through the conversation, I
think I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. And then there's
a light things, it goes off my head.
I'm like, you're not, you're wrong. And at that
point, you need to tastefully
exit the conversation.
That's a skill in itself.
Sarah, you're on. No goes and arguments.
Is that me? That's you, Sarah itself. Yes, you're right. Sarah, you're on. No-goes and arguments. Oh, is that me?
That's you, Sarah.
If your name's Sarah, it's all about you, mate.
What is it?
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Yeah, well, my husband and I have been married 25 years,
so, yeah, we've learned a few definite no-goes the hard way.
And one of the things we've gone with is that you just can't say
that sounds just like your dad or you're just like your mum.
We're not allowed to compare
each other to the parents because
it's just unfair really because you naturally absorb
stuff from your parents. And what do you say
in response? And it just riles
us no end. If someone says that, we both
fire up.
What about if anyone says to you,
just calm down?
Yeah, well that goes without saying. That's just
an obvious no-go. Yeah, that, that goes without saying. That's just an obvious no-go.
Yeah, that's like pouring unleaded petrol on the situation.
Just calm down.
No one in the history of ever being told to calm down
has calmed their down in that moment.
Oh, actually, that's a good point.
I should calm down.
We've got three sons, and I've already prepped them for the future.
Just so you know, never, ever tell your partner to calm down.
All right, well, that's good advice.
I think we should keep these coming through.
The calls and the texts are coming through.
The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast.
Some argument, discussion tips, some no-goes areas.
4487 on the text, don't cut your partner off mid-sentence
to argue your point of views.
Come through.
Oh, that's hard, though, because it pops into your mind.
There's a good point.
I'm not listening to what you're saying
Because I've got something better to say
Yeah
And it's very hard
Crossing a motorway isn't it
Not to do that one
But as when you were saying
Earlier on too
You don't swear
No we don't swear
Especially at each other
Like I would never
Call him anything
Using a swear word
Or we don't call each other names
In general
Because it just kind of
Defeats your...
I get the name calling,
but you've taken a lot of the fun out of that.
Yeah.
That is the joy of it.
It elevates the argument into a place
where you don't want it to be.
But you get to say stuff you can't usually say
and then deal with it later.
Also, you're calling the best person in your life
some pretty horrible things you don't really mean.
Oh, no, but just swearing out loud is...
I feel like that's the polar opposite to your arguments, Taylor.
Yeah.
If we didn't swear at each other, there'd just be no communication.
It'd just be a silent household.
All right.
Your argument no-goes.
We're going to go to Nat.
Welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast, Nat.
How are you?
Not too bad.
You?
Yeah, we're doing well.
Lovely to have you on.
No one's going to argue about that.
But what are the no-goes in your arguing technique?
We've got a few.
There's a few that have been brought up that we also do the same,
like no going after, like comparing you to your parents.
Right.
That's a big no-no.
But we're a big one for not going to bed angry.
We'll always resolve it before we go to sleep
because usually the arguments happen after work
so if they do happen
so we don't go to bed angry
we always resolve and try and listen
to what the other person was feeling during it
That's a great technique
and really good in theory as well
but sometimes it kicks on to 11.30 at night
I know
I've literally seen it in an argument
Hey, I've got to be up soon.
Like, I've got this on my head.
It's not good for a breakfast radio host, I'll tell you that.
We're going to have to put this up and say,
11 o'clock tomorrow morning.
No, but that's lovely.
And so that works for you too?
You wake up happy the next morning?
Yeah, and we go to sleep and we're like,
okay, you know, we were probably just really overtired
and it's all good.
But even if it's one o'clock
in the morning, we will still resolve it
if we need to.
Dedication to resolving it before going to bed.
I love it. Pauline, we'll get you on
your no-goes and arguments.
Hi, how are you guys?
We're doing well, Pauline. Lovely to have you on.
Thank you. I've got three things,
but I'll make it quick.
First one, being my stage of life, is you don't say,
must be the menopause talking.
Spicy.
It's a grenade.
Spicy.
Has it been said before?
It has been said, and I said that's like saying,
are you having a period?
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
Good, good. The other one is
don't bring up
old history.
What's been said has been dealt with.
You don't bring up old history.
That's another fun thing to do.
But once you said that,
you know, yeah, no, but alright,
again, keep it on topic.
And my last one, which I think is probably the healthiest,
is just sort of have a 10-minute couch debrief at the end of the day
when you're both together.
Because sometimes you can go through really, you know,
stuff that stresses you out at work, which carries on into the evening,
and it's got nothing to do with your partner.
And if you have a bit of a debrief, then you've both sort of got it out,
and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm in a better mood now.
I love you, honey.
Oh, Pauline. Must be the menopause
talking, mate. It was beautiful.
Jonathan.
John Aiken from Married at First Sight,
he said he'll often have a glass of
wine with his wife every night, and that's that
kind of chicken connection point.
Yeah, that's some wonderful advice. So thank you
very much for everyone for sharing.
We've all become better arguers.
The hits.
The Jono and Ben podcast.
The first day the phones were banned for school students around the country.
We had my daughter, Sienna, who was very upset about the phones being taken away.
She had a wee debate with Christopher Luxon, the prime minister.
Now, Mr. Luxon, you used to work for Unilever.
I hope you still have some of the deodorant because this next point is going to have you swear.
Yeah, so she, you know, it was a good debate,
but it didn't change his mind.
No, it didn't change his mind,
but I felt like she had some really valid points.
She worked quite hard on it.
Yeah, and he was just coming in hard.
No, hard no, you're wrong.
It's a dead energy in there.
I could tell there was a bit of him like going,
damn, she's got some good points here.
I wasn't expecting this.
Yeah, but it's too late now.
The thing's begun.
Because I said to my son Oscar, I was like, how was first day, no phones at school?
He's like, well, we've kind of always had no phones at school.
So I imagine for many, it's just-
It depends on the school, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Well, it was quite a big deal for Sienna and her school.
And last night, she came through the door.
She was a little rattled.
She had a quite long day. And I sort of, first thing she did, I shoved a recorder, my phone under, and last night, she came through the door, she was a little rattled, she'd had quite a long day,
and I sort of, first things I did, I shoved a recorder,
my phone under it, and I was like, what was it like,
first day without phones?
I think I caught her off guard, have a listen.
Hey, we're back.
We're back.
For a preschool chat.
A preschool?
I mean, after, I'm getting all confused
that I don't have my phone now.
Don't blame it on your phone.
It's messing with my brain.
Okay, now first day without your phones at school.
You survived it.
Well done.
Barely.
Well, barely, whatever.
How was it?
You talked to people.
You connected.
I know, but then I'm like, what class do I have next?
I'm also, oh, no.
What time is it?
How much longer do I have?
So we need to buy your watch and some paper to write something down
paper am i going to walk around with a map as well go back to the like 90s oh i need to go
fetch a bottle of milk and then walk 400 what's the word yeah they could have googled it yeah
exactly yeah so you see yeah they cut me when she said go back to the 90s i was like
90s feels like yesterday i know but it wasn't and you can go back to the 90s. I was like, babes. The 90s feels like yesterday.
I know.
But it wasn't.
It wasn't.
And you can go back to the 90s.
It was a great period.
But yeah, so can't tell the time.
Yeah.
Can't figure out what class it is. She did notice that, yeah.
She would check her phone for timings of classes.
How was it?
Because Luxo, he was all about the social interaction and morning tea and lunch.
Did she feel like there was more face-to-face comms with fellow students?
A little bit.
She said a lot of people would just, you know,
because the laptops are still allowed,
so people would watch, you know,
they'd get into this,
they'd watch YouTube on their laptops.
So they've just replaced their phone with their laptop.
So they'd still use that in the playground.
Well, I guess you could if you're working away at stuff.
It's probably going to be hard for teachers to know
if you're actually using it for, you know, are you using your laptop for schooling or are you actually looking
at something it's very easy to close a window yeah i mean the amount of times you told me
you've had to close windows in your bathroom