Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: Jono's Parenting Has Come Back To Bite Him...

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

ON THE SHOW TODAY: Ben put his DIY skills to the test when his wife’s shoe broke The fastest you've ever broken something? "I crashed the work car the day I got it!" Dear Megan: My partner does...n’t want kids, but I do—what should I do? Sleep hacks you need to know... We kick off Merch Madness! Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & Megan Instagram: THEHITSBREAKFAST  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Jono, Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to HelloFresh, your home advantage for delicious midweek dinners everyone will love. Welcome to the podcast. On a Tuesday, we've started off Merch Madness. So if you're a business, you've got some merchandise, it doesn't have to be clothing, it could be anything at all. 4487 is our text number. We'd love to receive your merch. We'll plug it on the radio. We'd love to. Also, we'll give it away at the end of the month and Megan's kindly offered to model the merch. When did I do that? We're hosting the merch gala for Megan too.
Starting point is 00:00:31 So Megan's going to be, my vision for the merch gala is big runway bin or some sort of red carpet. You and me, we could be the fashion commentators and Megan's like, here she is in a Hivers Bunnings polo shirt. Also modelling a Morrinsville veterinarian beanie. Very on trend. Why do they have merch? It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Why not? There's nothing against the Morrinsville Vet Clinic, but why do you need merch? Get their name out there. Get the business out there. Okay. And you know, cold mornings in Morrinsville, put on a beanie, out. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, cold mornings and morons, we'll put on a beanie, out you go.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Yeah. That sort of stuff. Yeah. We could actually, at the end of this too, sorry, big blue sky. For the hits, we got merch. We got merch. I know I wear that at a push because I have to.
Starting point is 00:01:15 But we go out there and we get bucket hats away and all sorts. They pay you to wear that merch. Yeah, true. I saw a Hits picnic blanket out there. We can chuck that into the merch. That's great. So we're going to give away all this merch. See, that's handy. You'd use that, right? Does it have a big Hits picnic blanket out there We can chuck that into the merch That's great So we're going to give away all this merch See that's handy
Starting point is 00:01:26 You'd use that right Does it have a big Hits logo on it Yeah it does No you won't even sit on merch You won't even sit on it You go to the bit You're like would you sit on the sand I feel like with that
Starting point is 00:01:36 He'd run and be like Alright mate you work at the Hits Oh yeah I see what you're saying Turn it upside down I'll get you a ZM one Might be more comfortable sitting on that That's a different narrative That comes with that one.
Starting point is 00:01:46 But yeah, we're going to have one big day at the end of March, giving away all this merch that we collate over the months. So get it in 4487 on the text, but enjoy the podcast. John O'Byrne and Megan. The podcast. The hits. I found myself doing a task where, you know when you get used to your routine, right? And so given our hours, we're home sort of around lunchtime, just after,
Starting point is 00:02:09 and you've got stuff, little benchmarks that you achieve on your own. And when people are at home during the day, it really throws out the equilibrium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't it? Now poor Ozzy, Oscar, my son, he was terribly sick yesterday, and so he was at home. Spent 15 hours sleeping last night. Ozzy, that's a bloody marathon.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That's a great sleep. Anyway, I walk past his bedroom. Okay, this is 1.15 in the afternoon. Boom! A mountain of books. So every book that was on this five-tiered bookshelf, every book that he's probably received since he was day dot to age 15, boom! It's all sitting on a pile on the floor. I'm like, what's going on? this five tiered bookshelf. Every book that he's probably received since he was day dot to age 15. Boom.
Starting point is 00:02:46 It's all sitting on a pile on the floor. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, I don't know. I thought it would be a good time right now to go through, I would say 400 books. Harry Potter's, your bloody, who's that? The Diary of the Wimby Kids. Everything. It's in a mountain.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Now I'm looking at it looking From Harry McCleary All the way to Harry Potter Everything The evil laugh Is because You were confronted With yourself 100%
Starting point is 00:03:12 This is what I did A few weeks ago With the closet Boom All the clothes Were in a big pile And I'm like Mate
Starting point is 00:03:18 We don't have time For this What is your plan For this He's like I don't know I just I just
Starting point is 00:03:24 Pulled it all out He's like I just got impulsive i just thought i'll get i'll do it he's like have you got a box or anything i was like no we don't have a box we had a storage was it we had a system there were five shelves that was sitting on say we spent an hour and a half reorganizing all the books and there was no order to the pilot you put them as well just a giant and then i'm like i've created this this is all on me. No, I can't be angry at this. Did your poor wife witness that? She'd be like, God, there's two of them.
Starting point is 00:03:49 She was like, I'm not dealing with this. She's like, this is all on you. And she's 100% right. I've created that monster. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Now, over the weekend, you actually went along to this.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Saturday night, invited along to a musical theatre. It's called Six. A premiere. It was about the wives of Henry VIII. It's a Broadway show. It's actually awesome. I knew nothing about it. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:13 But they're kind of like the story of Henry VIII and his wives. And obviously, they were somewhat beheaded and all that stuff. They've turned it into them telling their story as a musical competition, like a pop competition, like a concert competition. Yeah. Like a concert. Did he behead the wives? Some of them he did. Some of them were beheaded, some divorced. One of them died after childbirth.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And it's actually really funny and entertaining, and they all talk about how much. They're basically pitching why they suffered the most through song, through a singing competition. I'll put my vote behind the beheading. Well, yeah, but some of them had some other rough stuff as well. He was a wild guy. I mean, he wasn't like a great guy rough stuff as well he was a long guy like
Starting point is 00:04:45 a great guy no he wasn't a great guy but anyway on the way there um you know it's a red carpet premiere family going along my wife goes uh-oh as we're about a good 200 300 meters away we're running sort of close to time to get in there she's like oh and i mean what does oh mean she's like on my heel now she's wearing wedges wed on her heel. The whole thing had pretty much just come off. The wedge part of the wedge shirt had just come off. It's essential to the wedge shoe, the wedge. Just stop. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:12 She stopped. And I'm like, all right, well, just keep going. She's like, can't. Clow on. And so she's like, it's broken. And already, you know, when you're running late and things are getting quite, you know, she's like, that's it. You guys.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Up, down. Up, down. Up, down. She's like, you guys go on. I'll just, I'll go home. You guys go on without me what a hero the fallen soldier and i'm like no i'm like this is where i'm getting into solutions mode i'm like no we can sort this out firstly bare feet not an option i guess going into a theater red carpet sort of situation hey can you had a beer feed era too probably the least controversial of his fashion decisions recently
Starting point is 00:05:44 you can get away with bare feet in a lot of places in New Zealand, but that's probably not one of them. That's very flashy, yeah. So I was like, okay, what's looking? Googling shoe stores, couldn't find one,
Starting point is 00:05:52 but then I found this place that was like a Japan mart. Okay. I guess in some ways it's essentially like a $2 store. They've got options in there. I'm like racing in there. I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:06:02 what have they got in Japan mart? So I go, great, Superglue. And I'm like looking at things. This is all written in Japanese and stuff like that. I'm going up to the lady at the counter. I'm like, in there. I'm like, okay, what have they got in Japan, mate? So I go, great, super glue. And I'm like looking at things. This is all written in Japanese and stuff like that. I'm going up to the lady at the counter. I'm like, what's this say for instructions? She's like, that's wasabi. She's like, 15 minutes, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I'm like, we haven't really got 15 minutes. We're going to try and buy the super glue. We're going to put it on in the middle of the shop and try and get the shoes sorted. You are in solutions, mate. And it's not really going so well. You can see it's not really going so well. You can see it's still kind of moving.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So I'm like, I've got to have a plan B. So I'm going around the store. I've got shoes, shoes. What sort of shoes do they have? They've got slippers. They've got slippers, like hotel sort of style slippers. Oh, yeah? I'm like, great.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Amanda, you can wear these slippers. She's like, I am not wearing these slippers. I'm like, I'll wear the slippers. Wear my shoes. She's like, not wearing your shoes. I'm like, oh, God. You're like, I'm a solutions-based guy here. You've got hotel slippers. I'm like, I'll wear the slippers. Wear my shoes. She's like, I'm not wearing your shoes. I'm like, oh, God. You're like a solutions-based guy here. You've got hotel slippers.
Starting point is 00:06:51 You know, I've got some jandals, not quite her size, but she's like, if I have to, I'll wear jandals. Great, I'll buy these jandals as well as we're going on. You've got a good colour to match the dress too, in fairness. So she ended up going in with the jandals on and the shoes that reeked of superglue, and they kind of fell apart. Oh, so you glued the shoes and you got a pair of jandals yeah because as soon as she got back into the shoes we hadn't let it sit long enough and yeah they came apart again we we sat down
Starting point is 00:07:14 beside amanda not knowing the backstory and she was in a state and she was very upset yeah yeah and she's trying desperately to glue a shoe together. It was, yeah. But to be fair, no one noticed the jandals. You could smell the solvent. Everyone surrounding her had passed out. It's all I could smell was the thing. She's like, can you smell that? I'm like, yep. Don't tell her, but I did was like,
Starting point is 00:07:36 I was wondering what the smell was. I think it's definitely all the solvent. It smelled like a factory with children working in it overseas. Those sort of times, they really test your relationship. What did she call me in front of you? She was like, your dick features. Go back to Fiji. Yeah, because we got home.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I was in solutions mode trying to get it sorted. I couldn't understand why all these things weren't working. So anyway. She said, he's your colleague. Well, I hate to say it, but you married him. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Bought something new And straight away You've broken it Which is what's happened In our house I was very excited To give my daughter This little toy I bought her
Starting point is 00:08:11 So it's like A little speaker And it talks to you And you put in cards And it's like It's a lion Rah Because I just knew
Starting point is 00:08:18 She'd love it Because she could do it herself Sounds like that Wouldn't get on your nerves At all that toy Over time Well I wouldn't know Jono I haven't had a chance For it to get on my nerves What all, that toy, over time. Well, I wouldn't know, Jono. I haven't had a chance for it to get on my nerves.
Starting point is 00:08:27 What's happened to it? She was a little bit grumpy. She was having a meltdown. So I was like, do you know what? This is my moment. It's going to turn her around. I'm going to give her this little present, this little toy. Gave it to her.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And literally, she took it out of the box and vomited on it. That's what I think of you dumb toy, mum. And it said, I'm going to have a rest now. Bye-bye. And I was like, yeah, I would too. But it's got like, it's shut down. It's broken, obviously, because it's got liquid in it. The toy's like, this isn't what I was destined for.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I get out of the box. All of a sudden, someone vomits a shower of stomach bile all over me. And then I'm like, okay, well, I guess that's me then. That's my career done. I was so excited. I was like, she's going to love this. It's pink. It's just like she can use it on her own.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And she's like, bleh. So it's not working. No, it's stuffed. It's stuffed. I could have put it in rice, but I did not. It turns on and it just keeps saying, I'm going to have a rest now. Bye-bye. It's stuffed. I could have put it in rice, but I did not. Okay, so. It turns on and it just keeps saying,
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'm going to have a rest now. Bye-bye. It shuts off. I don't blame it. And when you shake it, you can hear liquid in there, which is grim, but it's broken.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Because we got a toy that was a while ago for the kids. It was like a toy lizard thing that climbs up walls and stuff. A remote control lizard, so I think. Oh, creepy.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And I used it straight away on the bench and I walked straight into the lizards, I think. Oh, creepy. And I used it straight away on the bench and I walked straight into the sink full of water within like half a meter. I was like, oops, and it wasn't working after that. But then eventually, a couple of days later, I don't know, it started working again.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Okay. Which is good, so maybe you're okay. Maybe I need to leave it just a few days. I was like, oh, cool. Lead a lizard to water. They went straight into the sink, yeah. Water is not electrical devices, friends. Okay, I went under the hits.
Starting point is 00:10:07 From when you purchase something new to when it was broken, I've gone through three drones in a day before over New Year's. Oh, my God. Did you fly them into things? Yeah, one went into a roof. One just kept going. It had a function on the app that said home. But it only works within a certain radius, right?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Well, home apparently is the factory in China. That's a huge flight for it too. That's a big flight for that drone. It used to be like Finding Nemo, the drone version. But yeah, that was three days. And then I went over New Year's, two pairs of petrol station sunglasses in one day. Bought the first pair and I put them in my back pocket, sat in the car. Sitting on them, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Fatal mistake. So then I got a replacement pair from the petrol station. They were missing. Two in one day. Flames down the side. Why don't you
Starting point is 00:10:54 keep children alive? There's probably a family hiding it from you. We don't want to look like your dad's a speed dealer. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:04 The hits. Harry Styles, pop star, just a couple of days ago O'Bannon Megan. The podcast. The heads. Harry Styles, a pop star, just a couple of days ago ran the Tokyo Marathon, full marathon. And his first half of the marathon was an hour 42. His second half was an hour 42. So he ran pretty much the same pace for the whole time. Pretty incredible. Harry Styles. I love him.
Starting point is 00:11:22 If there's anything. Is there video footage of him running? Now, if you could love him even more, he has even paced over two halves of a marathon. He would. Yeah, he would. Yeah, he would. All right. Slow and steady.
Starting point is 00:11:33 We're talking about things that you broke straight away after Megan brought a toy for your daughter. Then she vombed on it when I got it out of the box and it has shut down. When you shake it, it's got liquid in it. So I think that is done before she even really got to play with it. They might dry out, you know, and kick back into life, but the toy keeps just, every time you turn it on, it says... I'm having a rest now. Bye-bye. Put me back in the box.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I'm done. Send me back to where I came from. That's what I signed up for. First sign of sunlight and just getting vomited all over. Marlis, you're on. How are you? Good, thank you. How are you? We're doing well. It's great to have you on New Zealand's Breakfast this morning.
Starting point is 00:12:08 The quickest breakages. On the way, while I was getting the toy out of the box, I was cutting all, you know, all those little ties. Oh, yeah, the little cable ties. I was cutting all the ties. Yeah. And I happened to cut the wires to the toy as well. Sometimes it's quite difficult to get the actual toys out of the box.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They do strap them in tight, don't they? Immediately I'm trying to think if there's a way you can take it back and be like, the wires were cut when I got it. I'm having that issue at the moment when you've done the stuff up and you go back to the manufacturer and you try and get them to send you a new part. I did that with a basketball pole, completely screwed up the measurement of it. And I got AI to write me an email to the person going, try and make them feel sorry for me and send me a replacement.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But I left in all the email prompts on chat GPT and that didn't work Marla so if you are going to try and get your money back on that one write your own email okay yeah I'll do that great day great text coming through 4487 my partner got a 250 litre fish tank
Starting point is 00:13:19 I didn't want to wait for my partner oh no I got a 250 litre fish tank didn't want to wait for my partner to help me no, I got a 250-litre fish tank. Didn't want to wait for my partner to help me move it, so I dragged it along the ground and cracked all the bottom of the fish tank. You're like, why didn't I just wait? But that's a good way you could say that was a career thing, too. You could put that on the careers. Those bloody careers are a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Ainsley, how are you? Hi, good, thank you. How are you? Good. Trying to make Megan feel better this morning after a toy was opened out in the wild for how long? It was probably about five minutes. Got a little spew on it and now it doesn't work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 What happened for you, Ainsley? It's always the young children, eh? Yeah. Good start. Solid banter from you two. No, you guys carry on What happened for you Ainsley? Shut up Free flying combo, keep it going
Starting point is 00:14:09 Did you get it out of the package? No I didn't, I purchased some clothing online and got the package delivered and I went to go open it but I used quite a sharp knife and as I went and opened it I sliced right through the brand-new shirt I just bought.
Starting point is 00:14:27 That would happen a lot. Yeah. I was really tempted to go back and say, oh, this is just how it came. Maybe when they were opening the box of their shirts and stuff, it just, oh, no. But I didn't. I do love your performance, too.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Like, oh, no. That's what you do. I don't know how this happened. Oh, this is how it came. Oh, so good. John O, oh, no. That's what you do. I don't know how this happened. This is how it came. Oh, so good. John O, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Lots of good texts coming in. Someone said, I was setting up a new TV, lifted the metal stand base past the screen, and I hit it. Totally cracked it out of the box. We work in IT. We were setting up new iPads for a school with some student helpers.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We'd unbox them all and we were turning them on when one of the helpers dropped one onto the other. Smashing two iPads. Cracked both of them. Never use student helpers. Student helpers by unboxing iPads. That's a valuable lesson those poor IT people learned that day. Yeah. There was one replacing a light bulb above the bed, but I stood on the glass lampshade I'd removed
Starting point is 00:15:26 by accident. I broke it so I bought another one and then I dropped the screwdriver on that one. Broke two in one day. We did that when my stepbrother and I broke a window playing cricket at my dad and my stepmum's place and we were like we can solve it. We can get a new one. And we biked up the road to get a window pane.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And we managed to get it back. On double bikes? Were you holding one side of the window? Very slowly, yeah. And then we got it back and we were like this is great. We're going to get a window pane, and we managed to get it back. On double bikes? Yeah. Were you holding one side of the window? Very slowly, yeah. And then we got it back, and we're like, this is great, we're going to get in the window, and then we put it down, and then he stepped straight into it. Onto the replacement one.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Just as they were pulling in the driveway, we're like, oh, cool, now there's a broken window and another replacement. How were you going to fit a glass pane? I don't know. We thought we had big ideas. Blue sky thinking. Did you have any previous glazier experience? No. I didn't realize how A glass pan. I don't know. We thought we had big ideas. Blue sky thinking. Did you have any previous glazier experience?
Starting point is 00:16:06 No. I didn't realize how expensive glass was, too. Well, because you have to put putty around it, don't you? No, we didn't have any of that stuff. Well, we can do it. I'm just going to slot it in. And it didn't slot in, and then we put it down, and he stood on it. Well, now it's definitely not going to slot in.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That's the can-do attitude that you need out there. Jaden, good morning. Morning. How are you? Yeah, quickest breakages. What happened? So I got bought a brand new work car, like brand new, off the lot, hadn't done more than 10Ks.
Starting point is 00:16:36 What kind of car was it? It was a Mitsubishi Mirage. Oh, yeah, nice. Yeah, yeah. So second day, was at an appointment, went to reverse, had a reversing camera, everything, went to reverse, straight into a concrete wall. Oh.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Where did that come from? Oh, no. It was a mirage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, good. So what did you do? Did you have to go and tell work? I mean, what happened?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah, yeah, I had to go and tell my boss. Thankfully, they know my history when it comes to driving, so they were very understanding. But I definitely got a fair bit of ribbing from my co-workers for that one. Oh, jeez. And I love how they know your history when it comes to driving, but they still let you go and pick up a brand new car. Yeah, that's on them.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Everyone makes mistakes. That's right. I remember, we've said this story before, there was a young intern driving a station vehicle where we used to work. Day one, wasn't it? Day one of this person's job. And they underestimated the height of the garage
Starting point is 00:17:36 underneath the building and literally got this station vehicle wedged with something on top of the roof they were transporting. Wedged in between. They couldn't go back or forward. And no one could go in or out of the garage. He literally opened the front door of the car, walked out and just kept walking.
Starting point is 00:17:54 We haven't seen him since. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Night in Hollywood for the movies that we probably haven't all seen and maybe we've heard of a couple. Megan, you went home and watched it all. It was a long ceremony. It's not the
Starting point is 00:18:07 funnest ceremony because at least with the Grammys and other ones there's performances, but there was a performance from Ariana and Cynthia Erivo from Wicked. Yeah, it was incredible. They can sing. Yeah, that was pretty cool, actually. He started with Somewhere Over the Rainbow,
Starting point is 00:18:27 which I thought was pretty cool, because that's obviously not in Wicked, but, you know, part of the Wizard of Oz song back catalogue. Now, the Oscars really, for me, Slapgate. That added some juice to it. That added some juice to the event. No one slapped anyone. Because otherwise it just kind of drags a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like, it's great for these people, but, you know, there's a lot of awards we don't really care about. New Zealand's best sound. Best lighting. These people work hard. Best editing. Weta Workshop, South of Wellington, they were up for two awards. Unfortunately, they didn't get anything.
Starting point is 00:19:03 New Zealand did get a shout out, though. And I don't know why. Because a guy with not a Kiwi accent got up there and he was like, thank you to all my team and friends in New Zealand. I was like, yeah, New Zealand. That's all we need. That is all we need. If we get one of those per ceremony, we're happy.
Starting point is 00:19:17 That's filled our bucket. Conan O'Brien was the host, the American comedian as well. This is probably the most controversial thing. He made a joke around Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Have a listen. Well, we're halfway through the show,
Starting point is 00:19:29 which means it's time for Kendrick Lamar to come out and call Drake a pedophile. Don't worry, I'm lawyered up. He said, don't worry, I'm lawyered up. Yeah, he was like,
Starting point is 00:19:39 yeah, I'm definitely lawyered up. Yeah, as well as that, I thought one of the best bits at the start was Adam Sandler. Now, often he gets, you know, made fun of because he's usually dressed like he's going to like a k-mart at two o'clock in the morning you know like he's always pretty casual and they cut to the audience and he was wearing you know a hoodie and a bright blue hoodie some yeah basketball shorts and this
Starting point is 00:20:00 was adam sandler adam what are you wearing what are doing right now? I'm asking you what you're wearing. Nobody even thought about what I was wearing until you brought it up. I don't care about what I wear or what I don't wear. Did my snazzy gym shorts and fluffy sweatshirt offend you so much that you had to mock me in front of my peers? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I love his angry little voice. It's like a baby voice, but an angry voice. Yeah, he was like, I'm leaving. Now, Kieran Culkin. Now, Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone's brother, obviously a very, very successful actor. From Succession. Succession as well.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He was also in Home Alone. He was the kid that peed and drank the Coke and stuff and wet the bed. Was he in Home Alone? Yeah, was also in Home Alone. He was the kid that peed and drank the Coke and stuff and wet the bed. Was he in Home Alone? Yeah, he was in Home Alone. He was the kid that wet the bed. Oh, my God. I can't remember the bedwetting scene.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, no, he was always, he'd drink the fizzy drink and they'd be like, oh, you've got to sleep next to him tonight. And he's like, oh, he pees the bed. Oh, yeah. So that was him with the glasses as well. Oh, my God. Yeah, well, he's obviously a very successful actor in succession, as you say. He won an Academy Award as well,
Starting point is 00:21:08 and he used it as an opportunity to talk about his wife not having any faith in him. She turned to me, I swear to God this happened. It was just over a year ago. She said, I will give you four when you win an Oscar. And I have not brought it up once until just now. You remember that, honey? You do? Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Then I just have this to say to you, Jazz. No pressure. I love you. I'm really sorry I did this again. And let's get cracking on those kids. What do you say? I love you. He made a bet that if he won an award that they would have a third child, and he won,
Starting point is 00:21:40 so she went for number three, so he made another bet. Yeah, well, she made the bet, apparently. She's like, yeah, I remember that. I'll give you a fourth kid if you win an Oscar. He's like, ye have little faith. Oh, it's good to gamble with the old uterus. So it's a carrot dangler. Now, best picture?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Okay, Megan? Anora. Anora, yeah. Anora is about sex workers. And that's about all I know about it. It explores the community. And the actress from Anora, the lead actress,
Starting point is 00:22:09 Mickey, she won for Best Actor. She won Best Actress as well. Sounds like a lovely movie I'll probably never watch. Good congratulations to everyone from Anora. That meant that
Starting point is 00:22:17 the Wicked Girls missed out. Both of them, Ariana and Cynthia, both missed out and Timothee Chalamet missed out. Adrian Brody won for best actor and he had his gum
Starting point is 00:22:26 in his mouth and he sort of chucked it back to his partner yeah he was like oh I can't go on stage with my gum
Starting point is 00:22:31 I sort of chucked it back and she was like caught it and then we were like he's with bloody you know who he's with now he's with Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife
Starting point is 00:22:38 she obviously left Weinstein that's not a it's not a sustainable relationship is it no I wonder if you talk much about the ex you kind of ignore it wouldn. I don't know if you talk much about the ex. You kind of ignore it, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:22:47 I don't know in that situation. Glad she's happy and she's moved on. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Yeah, Megan. Someone slid into your DMs, Megan. This is a really interesting situation.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I kind of feel like there's not going to be a winner, but I would be really keen to hear from someone if you've ever been in this situation. It's a tough one. So it says, Hi, team. Can I get your opinion and your listeners' thoughts on this? I've got an older partner who I've been with for four years.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He has older kids from his previous relationship. When we first got together, he told me he didn't want any more children. But four years later, I'm feeling my clock ticking and I've decided I really want to have a child of my own. I love this man so, so much, but I also don't want to miss my chance to have a child. And he's always been pretty set on not having any more kids. Has anyone else been in this situation? I want to try to persuade him, but is that a bad idea?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Any advice? Just a tough one because he, you know, he's done everything right. He's been open in his comms. He's been straight up and down. He hasn't misled. And on her side of the fence,
Starting point is 00:23:55 people change. Wants and needs change over time. That's the thing. I don't think there's a bad guy in this situation. Everyone's got a right to their choice. Can you dress him up as a baby?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Aesthetically, if all you're wanting is a baby. You can kind of get your fix that way. You said she could go to a donor and have a baby, but then he's still going to end up raising it and being a part of it. Well, it depends what his issue is with having the kids. Is it him having to
Starting point is 00:24:21 be responsible for them? Because obviously you've got to, if you've created them, there's a level of responsibility there up to the age of 18, legally I think, but beyond that as well. But if they're in a relationship, he's still going to be responsible. Yeah, they should have to split for that situation to work, really.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And obviously it's not something that sounds like she wants because they sound like they're in love. It's really tricky when people can't match up. Are you going to choose between loving this man or leaving and having a child? Can you steal a baby? And then just give it back
Starting point is 00:24:53 at the end of the day. So you just get part-time baby access. Could you be satisfied with being like an auntie? I don't know if it's the same thing in that situation. Some people get puppies. Don't they just satisfy that man? That gets a little bit weird, but anyway, thing in that situation. Some people get puppies. Don't let us satisfy that need. That gets a little bit weird. But anyway, that's an option.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Well, I suppose it is. If you're just wanting to care for something. Okay, 4487 on the text. Oh, 800 the hits. Maybe you've been in a similar situation. Is it the end of a relationship? Or can you work through it if two people want different things? I hear you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:25:20 If she desperately wants a baby, she's going to have to leave. Going to have to break it off. Or has anyone been in a situation where someone has been persuaded and did it work out? Yeah. Or were they resentful? Because you know, at one stage there's going to be an argument down the track. One time they don't
Starting point is 00:25:35 sleep through the night and they're going to be like, I didn't want this. It's always good for the kids to hear those arguments too. This is all your fault kids. Pull it in your holster, ready to go at any stage, right? Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits.
Starting point is 00:25:49 What do you want to say on this, Alison? Oh, hi. Hi, guys. How are you? We're doing well, mate. Lovely to have you on the show this morning. Thanks for sharing your story. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:59 No, I was in a relationship with the same thing. It was a big deal breaker. He wanted no kids. I wanted kids. But the desire to. It was a big deal breaker. He wanted no kids. I wanted kids. But the desire to have children from me became quite overwhelming. So we ended up splitting up. And then he, I found out years later, he actually went on and had a child with someone else. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Don't you? Heroes always let you down. Oh, my God. Hey, but it worked out all right for me because I found my husband and we got married and had three children. And so it all worked out happy. Oh my God. Question. The guy that you were with that had a partner, had a baby with someone else, did they stay together? Still together? Hey, well together The universe was just saying
Starting point is 00:26:48 Maybe this is not the person you should procreate with Exactly Sometimes I think that's true Jono Sometimes I think you're giving indicators And maybe he's not the actual one Not the one Thanks for your call Alice I appreciate it
Starting point is 00:27:01 Kelly hi Hi I've been on the other side of that scenario where my ex, who we have a couple of children, his new younger lady wanted children after they decided, sorry, I'm just rehearsing my car. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Smashing the multitasking, Kelly. That's what us mums do. So this was actually quite a few years ago because our children are now in their 30s she was cool with not having kids and then a couple years into it her clock started ticking and he rung me and said what do i do and i said look give her what she wants or leave they're your options so they had kids and they fought like cats and dogs because he resented it and then they split. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 So basically, the first kid was born, she quickly popped out the second one, and I don't think he was even a year old when they broke up. Yeah, I mean, what I do know about relationships, if they're already under a little bit of pressure, adding kids into the mix is great for them. Yes. Absolutely, 100%. Always works out well. The worst band-aid, children.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah. And it's a really sad scenario for that lady. I do feel for her. However, unless she really wants to be a single mum and have a really resentful ex, it's not the best idea. No. And this is first-hand, well, second-hand experience. You watched her eating your popcorn on the sidelines, Kelly. I did.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And I said to him when he decided to have these other children, I went, dude, you're almost at the other side. Why would you start again? Like, seriously. Yeah, yeah. And it's like Megan said at the beginning, no one's really right or wrong
Starting point is 00:28:40 in this. He's been very open and honest. Yeah, he front-footed it before they went into the relationship, right? That's the thing. As soon as you start to change someone's mind on something, I just don't think it's going to work. Did you nail the reverse park, though, Kelly? Oh, I'm a pro.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yes, girl. Straight in between damn lines. Hey, good on you. Have a great day. You too, guys. Bye. All right, wrap things up, Megan. What are we going back with?
Starting point is 00:29:02 We say this every time, but communication is key. You're going to have to spell it out. You can't change him. If he doesn't want the children, you've got to make the choice. Is it going to be leave him and have a kid or stay with him and don't? No one said it would be an easy choice. No, it's a pretty tough choice. But yeah, appreciate everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So many texts and so many calls this morning. So many people sharing their story as well. So we really appreciate it. Jono, Ben and Megan. So we really appreciate it. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. So basically someone got into a relationship with an older man who has kids to a previous marriage.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And he said, I don't want more children. Four years down the track, as her clock is ticking, she said she wants to have a child of her own. What does she do now? She wants to know if she should try and twist his arm into it or does she leave? On Facebook, a lot of people are saying communication is key. It does sound like she's talked to him. Bonnie said leave him. Obviously, you're a cool chick. Don't give up on your future just because he doesn't want kids. Imagine getting old and then thinking I should have. What about like a bit of reverse psychology? Pretend that she's really
Starting point is 00:30:08 loving the non-kid lifestyle, which might make him into thinking, well, I'll show you. Well, let's make some kids, you know. I don't know if that's how healthy relationships work. That's how they always pan out. Shannon said talk to him about it before making any decisions. Definitely don't trap him into a child he's not wanting to bring into
Starting point is 00:30:24 the world. Yeah, that's fair enough. That seems to be a good consensus. She probably needs to weigh up how badly she wants the baby or how madly in love with this man she is. Probably both. That's probably the problem. Anonymous, great to have you on.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Hello. Hello. You've got a convenient name that your parents gave you. I know, isn't it? Yeah. Now, have you experienced this situation, Anonymous? I've been in exactly the same position.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, really? Yeah, exactly. So I was with my ex-husband for nine years. He had three children. When I met him, obviously, they were younger. But he had three. He was very clear. He didn't want any more children.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's it. And I didn't at that stage because I was only in my early 20s. Not a problem. You know, fine. We've got three kids. That's great. And then I got to 30 and the clock started ticking. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's a real thing, honestly. And I thought, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I need a child. Maybe just one. I just need a baby. And so reluctantly he agreed. And we had a child, maybe just one. I just need a baby. And so reluctantly he agreed, and we had a child. And I was saying this is a bit naughty, but a couple of weeks later he had the snip. I think he was making it very clear that he was not going to do it again.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Last one. He's like, if anything, if I can saw it off, I will. Yeah, yeah. He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, we're done now. And consequently, I'm on the other side of the world raising my son on my own. Oh, really? So it didn't work out for the relationship?
Starting point is 00:31:49 It did not work out. It was, it's really hard. I know people are making light of it as well, but honestly, it's such a heart-wrenching decision. And to the moment I had him, he was there. And it's almost like when I had my son, he just disappeared. He was gone. Because he didn't want to be there. He didn't want the child.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Don't get me wrong. He's a fantastic dad, and they have forged a brilliant relationship. He didn't, you know. Yeah, well, that's good. But he didn't want the child, and he made it clear, and I pushed, and that's what happened and no regrets? big regrets
Starting point is 00:32:29 not for my son I've said him a hundred times over but the way that it ended and not listening and maybe as some viewers have suggested that she perhaps if she wants the baby that badly, she maybe needs to leave him.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Think about leaving him and just try and find that, you know, another way. Yeah. And that's also putting the child at the forefront, too, because the kid doesn't want to grow up in a household with, you know, parents bickering away the whole time. Exactly. Because they pick up on stuff. They know when they feel like there's a resentment for the parent yeah, I left when he was 18 months old, so I've done that
Starting point is 00:33:10 on my own well done on what you've done, but thank you for sharing that with us, that's, yeah I hope she just really takes it all in and really works out what she wants in her life, and if she really wants the child, then she's got to find a different way.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Now, a bit of a back story. Here at work, we've got this table. It's like a communal table out in the office. And every now and then, sort of once a fortnight, a whole bunch of expired promotional goods will sit on the table
Starting point is 00:33:41 and an email will go out and like, who wants some expired Heineken Zero? As if they could make zero alcohol any more appealing, it's expired Heineken. Who wants expired pawpaw lipo sachets? So it's a whole bunch of stuff, leftovers from radio giveaways. Yeah, from promotions. I am never one to shy away from anything expired. Nah.
Starting point is 00:34:03 It's not always expired stuff, but sometimes it is. I had some expired beef jerky from there once. You could have built a bloody leather belt out of it. It was nice though. You could chew through it. So there was these herbal supplements on there that's supposed to help sleep. And I was like, yes, ma'am. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:20 we get up early. We've got two little E's. And so I tried these. And I don't know if I'm okay if it's placebo, but I've had really good night's sleep. You're sleeping through. You're like, wow, the kids didn't wake up. And then, Andrew, your husband's like, no, they did. I just slept through it all.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I was like, genius for me. It's like a sedative. It's expired sleeping tablets you're taking here. Maybe it got stronger when it expired. But you'd think, and I'm not recommending this, but you'd think with medicine it wouldn't be as bad as something like dairy, dairy foods and things like that. Oh, even then I'll run the gauntlet.
Starting point is 00:34:53 No, it's for me. But you don't think it's going to be as bad as something like that. Like milk and yogurts and things like that. It doesn't suddenly go weird the day that it expires. No, it's usually in a sealed, you know. So you're swearing by these sleeping tablets. This is a new hack. Now, my fear is you're going to get hooked on them
Starting point is 00:35:11 and we're going to be working with some bloody sleeping pill, you know, knocking back sleeping pills every 10 minutes. Herbal salt, yeah. Can't be that bad for you then, right? We had a friend who would do that all the time, remember? We worked with. So I was sleeping, yeah. Yeah, loved the sleeping pills.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And one time we took a flight and I think he nearly overdosed on them. Yeah. Trouble with the zoppies. Oh, he was very groggy. Yeah. We were like, are you all right? And he's like. Yeah, that's what can happen.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He stopped smoking and then got addicted to nicotine. Okay. The gum. The gum, that's right. And two or three years later, he was still on nicotine gum. He wouldn't smoke, but he'd chew the hell out of nicotine gum. He just meant to wean you off, and he was like, no, I love this stuff now.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Very addictive personality. He'd go back to the doctor for more. But sleep maxing is a term that's got massive on TikTok, and this is trends that people are adopting, like all these different ways to get to sleep. So maybe you're using a mask. Maybe they're doing like a counting technique. Some people are adopting all these different ways to get to sleep. So maybe you're using a mask. Maybe they're doing accounting techniques. Some people are taking these tablets.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Some people are doing sleep trackers. There's all kinds of things that people are doing to get to sleep. I find a great way to get to sleep is hosting breakfast radio shows. Yeah, that's not bad. That works really well for me. Anytime you slow down, you're like... Okay, I'll wait until the hits. Shall we chuck this open, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Your sleeping hacks. How do you get to sleep? I know the military have got one that they do. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Yeah, listen, I've done some reading on it. I won't bore you the step-by-step process,
Starting point is 00:36:40 but in the middle of wars and things like that, soldiers obviously need to recharge the batteries. It should be very hard to go to sleep in those conditions. Imagine you're at war, mate. You'd be a nightmare. Oh, yeah. I've really struggled to get my brain to stop thinking about this. Same.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I have to watch something on Netflix or something like that just to figure this out. But then if that's not on, I have to think of something really – I'll come up with sports teams and stuff like that and name sports teams in my head just to give – otherwise you start thinking about work-related stuff. What do you mean come up with sports teams? I'll come up with sports teams and stuff like that and name sports teams in my head. Otherwise you start thinking about work-related stuff. What do you mean come up with sports teams? I'll name it.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Black Caps 11 or a Warriors side or something like that just to give myself something. I'll go, and then I'll go to sleep. Last night we were turned off the lights, everything. I was going to bed and I was like, I need to get the chicken out of the freezer. Something as far away from admin and work that you can.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Otherwise you just spend all night thinking about it. What Warriors teams do you name the current lineup? Current, the best of, best of my lifetime. I'll go through them all. Current lineup. Hotshot, Cassini. Doesn't that kick your brain into gear, though? Yeah. Sometimes it does do the opposite.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Of course it does. Sometimes it doesn't. You just have to dive back and try to remember players from yesterday. Yeah. Do that with cricket. Yeah, it's very boring. But cricket puts them to sleep. There we go.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Same. Let's go to the phones. Get Carol on. Lovely to have you on, Carol, this boring. But cricket puts them to sleep. There we go. Same. Let's go to the phones. Get Carol on. Lovely to have you on, Carol, this morning. How are you? Oh, not too bad. I love talking to Carol. Now, you help people out in their homes, don't you, Carol?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yes, I do. That was a gamble. I have a memory. Yeah. Now, Carol, it's lovely having you call through this morning. What's your sleep hack? I usually go on to Netflix and watch either pro series on Netflix or if I don't want to do that,
Starting point is 00:38:13 I put on Fast and Furious films. Oh yeah, that sounds like it would have so many explosions and car crashes it would have the opposite effect, Carol. No, because I've watched them that many times. I can say them just about word for word now. What's your favourite line from all the Fast and Furious, the whole franchise, what's your favourite line?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Oh. I live my life a quarter mile at a time. That's what I was hoping you'd pick it up. But she didn't. It's about family. Which one is your favourite? Do you have a favourite movie out of all of them? The first one.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Oh, the OG one. Yeah. They really ramped things up. Back then they were like, I think, pirated DVDs and stuff like that. They were stealing and things like that. It was really low level. And then in the end. One we went to, they were going into space.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I was like, jeez. How did they end up... How is it faster than in a car? That's right. They were going into space in a car, Carol. Oh, well, it could happen. It could happen, you're right. I guess it can.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Don't you slam those movies? I guess it can. I don't care, well, it can't. But anyway, James, you're on, James. How are you? Good morning. Well, he can't. But anyway, James. You're on, James. How are you? Good morning. Yeah, morning to you. You're a hack to getting to sleep.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I don't really have a hack. I have an annoying habit. What's that? My wife tells me to go to bed because you're falling asleep. And I just sit there playing video games and falling asleep on the couch. And she used to turn all the lights off and go to bed without me. You're one of those. I've done my time there where the head gets too heavy and you're
Starting point is 00:39:50 kind of rocking it back and forth. But maybe the video games are how you're relaxing, you know, to get to sleep. Well, I get to the point where I'm so damn tired I can't move. Yeah. Just put a blanket on me. That's right. Leave me here. I'll wake up in the night and then go, ugh. We go through this dance where Jen's like.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You can't stop because I come to bed at 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, I'm here. Yeah. Yeah, we do this thing where Jen's like, you're falling asleep. I'm like, I'm not falling asleep. She's like, you're falling asleep. And I'm like.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I've actually got a video I filmed of Ben and Megan sleeping on the plane last week. You're getting your head knocking back and forth there, Ben. We'll put that on social media. Oh, thanks. We did have a rule for no pictures. It was nothing about videos. Good on you, good on you, James. Which you actually put a picture up of me anyway, Megan.
Starting point is 00:40:35 That rule went out the window. You started the rule. Jono, Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Celebrity baby news, guys. Peppa Pig's set to become a big sister. Mummy Pig is pregnant.
Starting point is 00:40:48 This is big news. So Peppa and George are going to have a sibling at some stage this year, which is exciting. Oh, that's sweet. Your character, you're not quite as excited about that. Or something that you can be excited about, Peppa Pig's fun day out live coming to New Zealand this June and July. PeppaPigLive.co.nz for all the details.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Good segue. There's some radioing right there, baby. Now, we just returned from Fiji, married the wonderful Christy and gorgeous George over there, and they got married at the Outrigger. And we got swept up in hotel merch madness, didn't we, Ben? We love merch, you and me. We are suckers for merch.
Starting point is 00:41:24 We went on a tour of Bunnings. Every Bunnings throughout the country eating a sausage. Boy, oh boy, we let that get away on us. They've got so much merch. The merch game is elite. It is. There is no bit of merch that Bunnings doesn't have. I came home with that word of like a netball and hats.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Oh, my God. All sorts. Just everything. It was like toys for kids. There's toys. Gloves. Don't they have colouring pencils or something? Stubby holders, you name it, whatever, they've got it.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, exactly. Contraception. Oozing that. They've got it all. They've got it all. You beat it by 15%. No, they don't have that. You find out what happens.
Starting point is 00:42:02 But yeah, we came back from Outrigger With all this merch Yeah there was A nice little store At the Outrigger Place that we stayed So what better to remember Your you know Your lovely accommodation
Starting point is 00:42:12 That we stayed at For one night That we've got Some Outrigger hats We've got three hats So you worry about it Megan a bucket hat And two other hats
Starting point is 00:42:18 So you can have your choice And we've got a couple Of pairs of slippers as well These are actually ones From the store So we're allowed to have those. I had the best time at the Arrugger. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:42:28 You can remember it. I know. It's so expensive. Remember how you got burnt there? Well, you could have worn this hat and it would have stopped you from getting burnt. I loved it. Loved my time there,
Starting point is 00:42:36 but I'm just not a merch girly. You hate merch, don't you? I hate it. That's basically why we've got this and now we want to um we want to do what we want to do merch madness yeah we're launching a campaign uh for the month of march uh merch madness now if you uh work for a business and you've got merch like maybe you're uh plumbing and it's got some sort of semi-offensive slogan on the t-shirt like let me into your pipes or
Starting point is 00:43:03 something you can send us that t-shirt and we're going to collate all the merch from all across the motu and then one day end of march megan's going to wear it all megan's going to wear it all she's going to model all the merch and we are going to give it away during what every caller wins merch yeah how's that sound megan sounds getting on board supporting local Well, this one's Fiji. Just get going. Supporting business, local businesses, wherever they are locally around the place. Hardware t-shirts. You know, sometimes the corporates have like little golf polo t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Pats, pins, you name it, we'll take it all. 4487, text us through right now your name, your business, and what merch you've got. And we'll work out how to get it up to us. Little USB sticks. Sometimes people have those, don't they? Oh, that's handy. Stubby coolers. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:52 There's lots of things that people can put their merch on, put their brand on. Bucket hats with fried chicken logos on them. Oh, I love it. Well, I thought we could do the merch gala too, where we take Megan And dress her up in all the merch And she wears different outfits
Starting point is 00:44:07 Walks down a runway At the end of the month Come along to the New Zealand Herald Daily Quiz With producer Ellie As I try and find the dramatic music Hello Like underwear
Starting point is 00:44:23 We do it every day We put it on Sometimes it goes better than other days for example i have my underwear on backwards today you have wins and losses but we keep coming back for more with the herald daily quiz uh producer ellie hello there how are you feeling what are you what are your guts saying what i'm gonna say to you guys is uh i got nine out of ten on my own you know i was thinking that driving home yesterday. One week we should all do solo efforts and see. Oh, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. Okay. That's not happening today, though. All right, question number one. What is the traditional Balinese dance that often depicts the epic battle between good and evil? Is it barong, marong, or legong? Now you've said you got 9 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I will say this was an educated guess. I didn't actually really know this one, but I just felt it in my heart and I got it right. Rattle through the three options again. Sorry again, Eleanor. Barong, Marong or Legong? Legong's really ringing a bell for me. Legong. We're going to go with Jono then.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Are we locking in Lee Gong? Okay, locking in, locking in. That is incorrect. Wow. No! There you go. Dude, you can't say that when it starts with the hardest question. Yeah, sorry, it's just some of the really hard questions.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Was it Ba Rong? Yeah, it was. Thank you, Fiona, for texting that in. We should have gone with the text. We should have gone with our lifeline first thing this morning. There it is. What was question two? Rabbits are part of which family of mammals?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Rodentia, leporidae, or mustelidae? Rodentia. Oh, dear. He says it like he knows it. That's the thing. We're like, oh, yeah, he knows this one. And he does know. Rodentia. Oh, okay. Oh dear. Is it like he knows it? That's the thing? We're like, oh yeah, he knows this one and he does know. Yeah, it's like Rodentia. Yeah, so they must.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It sounded like Rodentia. It was Leperidae. Oh, they probably got that one. Okay. I don't know, sorry, but I got it right. Okay, let's go question three. No, don't wrap it up. It's done.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It's done. We can't get any more. It's the consequence of getting two wrong. Or even Ron wrong. We got one extra one and we shouldn't have. Yeah. New Zealand Herald Daily Quiz.

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