Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: MAFS’ John Aiken describes being told he's “trying to silence women”

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

On today’s show:  How Ben’s daughter discovered a conversation-ending one-liner Why Megan is sick of her husband going to the supermarket… can you relate? Jono’s ho...rrid run-in with a gas station sausage roll! Dear Megan… After 17 years together, my husband left for a midlife “reinvention” and now wants to come back. Am I naive to take him back? John Aiken from MAFS joins us to give his take on our Dear Megan and chats about being accused of “trying to silence women” whenever he gives feedback We go LIVE to our mate in the aftermath of the Super Bowl… was Bad Bunny any good? Instagram: @THEHITSBREAKFAST Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono, Ben & MeganSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Jono Ben and Megan podcast, thanks to Dilma. Goodness really does taste great. Dilma, making the world a better team. Welcome along to a podcast. On a Tuesday, about to head away. We'll just at the end of the radio show, which will hear the best bits of them in the podcast. We're about to head up north for our $10,000 race.
Starting point is 00:00:17 A lot of prep for the big race against Maddie and PJ. First team to Wellington wins 10K to give away. You learn a lot about your colleagues, do, when you go away from the office, don't you? Ben, you're concerned about the lack of clothing. producer Troy is packed. He's just got a tote bag. Nothing. Nothing. It's tiny. That's what I bring to work every day.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I guess he doesn't have to wear hits. I don't know if he has to wear Hicks clothing every day. I've just got multiple hits, tops and jackets and every hits bit of merch that I own is in there. Literally my toilet bag is the size of his tote bag. Yeah. Is that your toiletries? Yeah. He's a man of simple pleasures, producer Troy. And also learning Megan's sort of playing the role of Camp Mother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:57 You don't have to do that, but it's lovely that you are. It's all right. I've done a little grocery list because we're staying in an Airbnb and we're going to get there late. So I was like, rather let's cook something at the Airbnb. She wants to making chicken tacos. Do you know, I actually bought some groceries in my bag. Hopefully not the chicken. No, not the chicken.
Starting point is 00:01:16 No, not the chicken. You're probably getting that last. I was like if we prepare, then we know what we need to get. And I got some limes off my tree. Wow. You wouldn't have it any other way. Like I imagine if I said, do I go. meals on me don't wait trust me with it trust me to make something yeah no you
Starting point is 00:01:35 you want to trust me not at all one night this week I'll cook for you no oh we're gonna get like Frank food is in the mind or something I know I'll surprise you I don't want fish fingers you say that then you won't follow through so we'll go yeah okay okay okay fine fish fingers Thursday night I'll supply the food no process meats we're not or fish fingers who knows we're staying at a place for the kitchen I just said I'll supply the food. Who said I'm going to go. All right, I'm saying. You know, I don't know. We don't know where we're staying along the way.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I know we have a $10 budget as a show to use. I assume we can use our own Air Force cards if we need to buy. Yeah, well, that's also why I bought food from home. Yeah, good point. Actually, I don't know how it all works. We'll let's use our own money to stay alive. I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. I don't know. I just figured the race isn't started yet so we could get some groceries today. I think anything to do with the race that we should, you know, obviously $10 as we've got,
Starting point is 00:02:25 but outside of the racing hours, maybe, that? I don't know. But we're getting told as we go. Well, I mean, these fish fingers aren't going to buy themselves, guys, when I'm making dinner. So I just need to know what the limits are, this budget. But, you know, I'd love you to join us for the race. You might even need your help, giving us a lift from whatever you can do. Any location to another location will be great.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You're going to make us fish finger ramen, aren't you? Two minute noodles. That sounds delicious. John O'Bin and Megan. The podcast. The heads. On Aiken from Married at First Site joins us in the studio. we were just chatting to him about some of the stuff that's coming up on the show
Starting point is 00:03:02 in the series and he was talking about how he got shut down. He got shut down a few times by some of the female. Oh, yeah. The woman, right? So you're just a man trying to silence a woman. Yeah. It's just, yeah, I tell you what, that sucks the air out of the conversation. And it reminded me because obviously I'm a parent of two teenage daughters now.
Starting point is 00:03:19 My daughter, Sien has come up with a wonderful line she keeps using as well. What happened to your TV show? Well, yeah, she does. That's a go-to gag. That's a very good go-to. gag. When to do last win a radio award? Yeah, well, that one is pretty good as well.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But also, she will often have a conversation. I'll be saying something, which I think now and again try to be quite important as a parent. You'll say that. And then she'll just look at me and she'll go, why is the man talking? Oh, that does shuddery. Yeah. And why is the man talking is a very hard thing to come back from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It's almost... Oh, what are you even say to that? It's the 2026 version of Cool Story, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I can only be working on as she was like, why is the man talking? And then you're like, well, because I'm your dad. But it really takes the confidence out of what I'm.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Someone silenced the man. Yeah, really takes the confidence. Yeah, yeah. She says it really well too. Just why is the man talking? Like, who is this guy and why is he doing this? So I'm like, I don't know how to come back from that one. So if you've got any suggestions.
Starting point is 00:04:15 You start to lose authority the longer your parenting career goes on. You'll figure this out, Megan. Your words have less and less meaning, the older they get. That's right. Yeah. You just do that whole old Chessna. I brought you into this world. I can take you out of it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, well, that's quite threatening though, right? Yeah. Yeah. That feels like they'll take it. They're smart these days. They'll take you somewhere for that if you say that. Sometimes I think they just hear noise and then they decide whether they think it's worth responding to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's the point we're in now. John O'Ben and Megan. The podcast. The hits. Yeah. I have some beef with when my partner goes to the supermarket. I generally do the groceries just because of, I'm at home in the afternoons and I kind of keep a tab on everything we need in the house.
Starting point is 00:05:02 But we do write a shopping list on the fridge. And sometimes Andrew will go to the supermarket. But I hate it when he does. I like the fact that he's doing the chore, but it always turns into a chore for me. So I have to turn my phone on loud because I end up getting like 10 calls from him as he goes around the supermarket. If I happen to forget and leave my phone on silent, because we have our phones on silent in the studio, he'll come home and be like,
Starting point is 00:05:31 I rang you a million times. Why did you know I have your phone on loud? I'm like, you're a grown ass man. Do the groceries without calling me. So he'll call me and be like, how many eggs do we need? I'm like, just get some eggs. He's just wanting to not let you down, not let his beloved wife down and get the correct items.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The shopping list is eggs. Just get some eggs. And then it'll be like, oh, do we need some? Rice, another call. Shall I buy some steak? It's on special. You make the call. You're getting real-time coverage.
Starting point is 00:06:00 You make the call. At the end, when he gets to the checkout, he'll call me and say, which can't do I use? I'm like just used. Yeah, that sounds painful. The F-COS card. I don't know, man. Just try one.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I generally do the supermarket shopping in our household. I just go and I have a list of stuff and I forget a lot of stuff. So I don't call anyone. I'm not putting a burden on the phone call on. I just arrive home and she'll be like, Well, where's the crushed garlic? Oh, they're like, oh, they ran out. Do you know how many times I've said they've ran out?
Starting point is 00:06:29 She's like, the supermarket doesn't run out of so much stuff. I'm like, you're right, you're right, I'm lying. You're probably not the safe bear of hands for the supermarket. No, I'm not. It's a realist situation. Pretty erratic. My daughter, Indy, why are your kids get older? They take the call.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Like, I never call my wife. She doesn't answer her phone either. So I just call my daughter, Andy. She's always straight on it. She's the one. She's my go-to supermarket. And why are we for that, you know? So you do call someone.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah, sometimes. Not all the time, but yeah. I try not to, but now and again you might go, oh, do we need this? Well, we know why, because I don't want to get the wrong items. He comes home and he gets angry at me for not having my phone on loud. I'm like, dude, there's two children running around the house. I'm a bit busy to take your 10 calls. In that instance, when he's called, you haven't answered, he doesn't know how many eggs.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Does he return home with eggs? Yeah, he's going to do it, right? He makes a very competent decision. Yeah, he's going to make. Like any grown person. Any grown ass man. Have you tried shopping together? I really feel like supermarket's an individual thing.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Absolutely. Like, putting it, for some reason, it puts your relationship to the test. You get into a nice rhythm, don't you? You've got your systems. We play the same things all the time, and I don't know how we find things to argue about. They're like, we don't need that. They're like, what do we do that? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You start putting it back suddenly on the shelf. It's a half and out of the shopping time. Yeah, I don't know why. I always put it back and then like a week later, he'll be like, man, we need rice. And I'd be like, oh, do we need rice now, do we? Maybe I shouldn't have put it back on the shelf. He's like, maybe you should have answered your phone, whatever I said. The supermarket shop is a singular act.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah, I think so. There's a lot of therapy this half out. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. That's... Football Ben, uh, who was, to be honest, a little tentative yesterday at the end of the interview when you said, we'll catch up again tomorrow. I wasn't banking on him answering his phone. No, you're like, oh, you came through.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You can try, but he's here. Ben, good morning. Hey guys, how are you? Good. Now, uh, awkwardly, he's going through airport security too, and nothing like having to do radio in the wild, Ben. It's one of my most attested things is when you have to do a phone cross in an awkward location. So I'm sorry about this.
Starting point is 00:08:32 No, you're completely fine. Now, the good thing is that my flight home to New York, it stops in Seattle. And if they had lost last night, it was going to be a very, very unfortunate flight for me filled with Seahawks fans. Luckily, I'm about to bought a party flight, so it's going to be good. Yeah, what's the vibes of everyone getting on that plane then? Has everyone still dressed up?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Everybody is, yeah, everyone is still in the same merch as last night. They're all very excited. Or they've bought the Super Bowl champion shirt, so they've probably gotten from the dude off the street that was selling them for about 20 bucks as they walked back from the stadium. But everybody is on the bus back to the hotel. There was lots of Seahawks chance. It was very loud.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Everybody's very excited. What was the game like to be there? Because I guess the first half in particular, it wasn't the most exciting football game, I guess. But, you know, Seattle kind of felt like they kind of had, in the back. Yeah, I turned to my friend just before halftime. I said this is like one for the purest.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Like if you really effing love American football, this is the one for you. But for us casual fans are like, okay, cool, you can see, can you actually throw? That would be really cool. Well, Megan was really happy with bad bunnies' outfits. Yeah. She didn't see the game. No, I forget there's even a game being played. Talk to me about the halftime show.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Well, how about all the people that were dressed as all the trees that were just standing there for 16 minutes. It was like all these individual people. Now I did some research for you on the trees. Okay, love it. Okay, so they did a week of rehearsals. They also did the Green Day. They were in the crowd for the Green Day
Starting point is 00:10:03 performance. They earned about I think it was like 16 bucks an hour, but they got about after we did the calculations, it's about a thousand bucks for their time. So I mean, to stand there as a tree for 15 minutes, they got a thousand bucks. I didn't really cool. I missed the Green Day performance. Did they also have a forest of trees as well?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, weirdly, no, no, no, they were in their normal rock clothes Oh, so they got them into the tree. Versatile gig. But how about the two people at the Bad Bunny show that actually got married? They were actually a couple that asked Bad Bunny to come to their wedding. Actually, why don't you bring your wedding to the halftime show? So they actually literally got married at the halftime show. It was not two actors.
Starting point is 00:10:40 That's amazing. It was pretty incredible. So many Easter eggs in their performance. Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin, celebrities, celebrities down the front dancing as well. It was pretty incredible. Well, I think after three years of talking to you guys and, like, throwing out random predictions about who's going to show up at the halftime show. I actually got one right. So my strike rate is actually quite good because I suggested that Lady Gaga was going to show up.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And look, she's there. You see, there was a lot of money riding on Gaga turning out. There would be some wealthy people today. And the other big to halftime show, the alternate halftime show, the redneck halftime show, was big songs about fish. I just want to catch my fish. Drive my truck. Even Trump, though, wasn't watching that, from what we gather as well, wherever he was watching the football.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I think he was mouthing off about bad bunny's performance. Yeah, that's the confusing thing, is that he said that he was going to watch the pre-recorded kid rock show that they actually didn't secure the rights to show on Twitter. So they were saying it was going to go on Twitter all week and then forgot to actually pay for the rights to put it on Twitter. But then, yeah, Trump decided to post and say that the bad bunny wasn't good. I thought you weren't watching, mate.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I'm not stalking my ex's profile on Instagram, but they look like they're having a great time with their new boyfriend. When you were in the crowds during the halftime show, apparently there were people putting headphones in and watching the alternate one on their phones. Okay, that's what we call losers, and they should have been promptly escorted out because if you want to pay that much money to be in there,
Starting point is 00:12:07 you at least need a vibe of all the music they're putting in there. Well, six grand a ticket, New Zealand that were talking yesterday. So overall, out of 10 out of Ben, what would you give the Super Bowl, Ben? I like that. Okay, I'm going to say, let's say a proper five and a half out of Ben's, because the game, at least it sort of picked up at the half time, but then by that time, Megan had already moved on to whatever next thing that she was trying to play. No, I didn't know there was a game going on.
Starting point is 00:12:36 John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. That's morning, the Super Bowl yesterday. A lot of talk about Bad Bunny's performance. at half time Sybohi was great I loved it so good you just can't help
Starting point is 00:12:48 just shaking your hips just shaking your pelvis forward and back side to side it's very cool actually very very cool and someone's done a great edit of all the times
Starting point is 00:12:57 he said hey in there in the song hey hey hey hey hey hey hey just for a while that still sounds cool
Starting point is 00:13:14 okay that still sounds like a cool back at me his next song back of me his next song Okay, hey, just a, hey, that's cool. Now, we're going on the road tomorrow. We just mentioned the $10,000 race we're doing against Maddie and PJ to win you 10K through the country. I had an incident yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I was having to go semi-rural to drop one of the kids off to an activity. So semi-rural, and I was starving. I was later in the day and swung by, you know, those just random petrol stations in the middle of nowhere, nothing around and sometimes you might pop in to use the toilet and they'll give you a key with a piece of wood attached to it and you go 20 metres away. That's the setting.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So I'll go and grab something from the pie warm. I was hoping for a pie. But all that was in there was a lone sausage roll. Okay. So when I purchased it, put the thing in my mouth. It was like chewing on a baseball bat. It was so hard.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It could have been used as a weapon. this roadside sausage drop and I was thinking maybe they've never sold it maybe for 20 years they put it in the warmer back overnight it goes back in the freezer and they sort of rotate it round and it's Ali our old producer
Starting point is 00:14:29 remember we were travelling around the country with her one time and she's got a pie she got a broken a window with that pie yeah it was solid sometimes it does feel like it's gone in there a little too long they're like dehydrates right it's almost like moisture
Starting point is 00:14:42 you know when you go into the dairy and they put like a little cup of water in there to just try and add some life to the frizzled piece of meat. Maybe it was. I had that same theory of family functions for many years. Asparagus rolls were like the thing that my nana would always bring as well. And I'm like no one ever ate them. And I felt like they were the same ones that just kept.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And I love asparagus, but it's like the tinned asparagus. And it's all like soggy. It's like the bread. It's like slime. And she persists and then she'd bring it back out. I'm like, no one's touched this. Then the next family function will be like, are they the same ones? Because no one ate any last night.
Starting point is 00:15:14 It's a good theory. I think we should bring back the asparagus roll I love asparagus you know but not in the tinned form you know like so yeah it was Zoe Sazowski sin at she's just gone to first place with her final jump
Starting point is 00:15:27 has she? So can she hold on for a gold medal in the winter? I was doing a bit about a sausage roll miss sorry she's in gold position you tell Megan was it she was lost in the TV
Starting point is 00:15:36 did you realise how hard the sausage roll was I was trying to give them some my contact as well but all can see Megan looking at the screen we're going for gold Yeah, no, it's way more important than sausage rolls. Thanks Ben, someone would see me interested in the sausage rolls story. Jono Ben and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:15:52 The heads. So someone slid into my DMs. And it reads, my husband and I were together for 17 years. We built a whole life, kids, mortgage, shared friends, all of it. Then out of the blue, he sat me down and said he wasn't happy. He felt like he'd missed out on life. Didn't know who he was anymore. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:16:11 He moved out, got a new apartment, started going to go. going to the gym, bought a motorbike and basically tried to become a different person overnight. I was left at home, holding everything together and explaining to the kids why dad suddenly needed space. It was the hardest year of my life. I had to adjust to being on my own and rebuild my confidence from scratch. Now, he wants to come back. He says he's made a mistake, he was lost and confused and didn't realize what he had until it was gone. He put me through hell and obviously I still love him, but he walked out on our family and now expects it to all go back to normal.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Am I being naive to take him back or has anyone else experienced the same with a partner? Going through a midlife crisis. Jeez, Jim and motorbike at the same time. That is screaming. I was reading about this just before because I knew we were going to talk about. The midlife crisis happened for females? I think so. For everyone.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah. Yeah, I guess you're, and it says here, you reach a point sort of in your, between your 30s and 50s, where you realize the gap between who you thought you'd be and who I am becomes impossible to ignore. So you opt for a rebrand or you try and reset things. I did mine about 28. Oh, you're close to that. Like quarter life crashes. Yeah, I mean, that happens as well, right.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And you go for a complete rebrand. Yeah, a lot of people, yeah, you thought your life was going to be different. and you think running out of time to change it. Well, time becomes loud the older you get. I do empathise with the guy because obviously I went through a big rebrand. I got divorce and all of that and redirected my life. Don't worry, we were talking about it behind your back. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Everyone was. Sometimes in front of your face too. We're talking about it. But I understand that. Especially if you get married young, you can change a lot and maybe he just wanted to live his life a little bit. I don't know. Which is fine. Like he did it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But what happens in this situation? Like what happens now with her? Because she's like, well, she obviously still loves them, but then put it. But it's not as if he, like, cheated on her. He was having, you know, he essentially was having like a mental health crisis. So he wasn't with other, or he don't know, I guess, too. He was with over the 12-month period. But they were, I guess.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So maybe they were, maybe they won't be. But yeah, do you take the person back and then under what sort of conditions as well? Yeah. But there's loving and trusting two different things, really. Yeah, so yeah, she loves him, obviously, but can she trust that he's not going to just going to walk out again? Maybe this has happened to you, or maybe someone you know would love to give this person some good advice.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I mean, we've known guys who've had midlife crises. Oh, yeah, am we? Multiple. Did they run away and come back again? And did the other half accept them back? No, no. No, no, no that happened. They just went on with their separate lies.
Starting point is 00:19:05 But I think for the most part, in saying that, Both parties are probably happier. Happier? Yeah. Now, after all the dust is settled. Yeah, you're right. You're right. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hats. Her husband and her were together for 17 years.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They had kids together. Then he went through somewhat of a midlife crisis, left her for a year, needed space, and now wants to come back. Border motorbike started going to the gym, all of that, but now wants to come back and he realised what he had. Yeah. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:19:39 when someone walks out on the family system. Yeah. That's a big kick in the nuts. Especially for a year. So she's got kids and she's had to do all of that. Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't say whether he had any contact or was helping in any way.
Starting point is 00:19:55 A lot of groundwork. Fuck. Has he changed? Like she said, I don't know what age they are, but like, how are you telling your kids that? Yeah, that's tough, right. And then you're like, oh, dad's back now. There's the risk too that he comes back. and goes away again.
Starting point is 00:20:10 More unsettled behaviour. I'm sitting on the forgiving side of things. Right, okay. Which is actually at odds with what everyone else is saying. Yeah, most people come with you on the text saying, no, don't take him back, right? Some people on Facebook, Tanya says, no, don't take him back.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's not fair on the kids or you. He walked out, going to the gym, buying a motorbike. Was he trying to impress another woman? Did he think the grass was greener on the other side of the fence? Chances are he'll do it again? Jan said this is sad for me because he left the children too I wouldn't take him back
Starting point is 00:20:43 His trust would be an issue As he could up and leave again What do you actually love about him? I mean they were together for 17 years So a lot And obviously she's still got feelings Not at the end of that year Has she gone
Starting point is 00:20:55 Oh you know what I'm better without him It sounds like it right Yeah I honestly think if Like that kind of sounds like a mental health crisis I would like to think It has less to do with you
Starting point is 00:21:06 and maybe more to do with just who he is and where he's at. Let's go to the phones. Alec, you're on. Welcome to Dea Megan. Oh, good morning, guys. This is your best friend, Alec. She's gone, my scumbag of her husband walked out, and now he wants back.
Starting point is 00:21:20 What are you saying? I reckon he could have gone to the gym and bought a bike while staying in the relationship. True. A bit of a hard sell to, I mean, if I went home and said to Jennifer, hey, I'm going to buy a motorbike. Questions to be asked.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But I think you should think if you always wanted to buy a motorbike. No, and I'm sure you're dead right. You can buy a motorbike and join a gym. You can go to a gym, no, you're in a marriage? Yeah. Ever thought about buying a motorbike? I did actually look at me the other day. Someone will watch with Jason Marr, I'm like, damn it, this is actually quite cool.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Ben, I love you, but you're not going to transform into Jason Amar if you get a motorbike. Why don't you sell a little moped or something? A little scooter, I was like, 50-50. Oh, like a Vespa? Yeah. You're a Vespa guy. Maybe that can be me, like it. We'll get you a leather vest, though.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Okay. A bit of credibility. on the Vesma. Hey, I really do appreciate your feedback. TXT4-87, obviously doesn't want to come on, understandably, but this says,
Starting point is 00:22:13 my husband walked out a month ago after 22 years. Oh, my Lord. Since found out he'd been planning to leave for months, maybe having an affair, I just don't think you can come back from that. That's someone who's going through it right now. That is heartbreaking, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Well, okay, we normally come up with a response right now, but we've got John Aiken from Meredith, her sight joining us after 8 o'clock. Does he think Ben should get a Vesper? Right, yeah, maybe we'll ask him that. Maybe he's like, should I get a motorbike? And maybe he's got a response for us. Yeah, because I think we're all kind of at odds.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Everyone's like, no, I thought yes. So I don't know what to say. Maybe we do ask John. He's a relationship expert. Well, tell you what, going off his track record with his relationships on maps. Maybe not. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. The Hats.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Joining us in the studio, one of the air, relationship experts from the show, John Aiken. Good morning. Hello, guys. I love this. I get a chance to speak to the three of you before we launch the show every year and this one is a Ripper. Meph, season 13, you've been there since the start.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Is this the season people finally stay together? Please tell me. Well, I mean, you are a romantic thing. I can say that we get a little bit of love. But really what we got this year is a couple of very strong storylines. The first is about six women band together at the Hens Night and they call themselves the boss babes.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Oh, yeah. And they come up. after everybody. Anyone that stands up to them, if it's a woman, if it's their husband, or indeed the experts, they launch at them. So it gets very, very toxic and hostile in there throughout the entire experiment. They're getting impacted numbers, are they? So when you give advice in the...
Starting point is 00:23:50 They don't like it. They don't like it. So all six of them will crack off. Yeah. They say to me, John, you're just another man trying to silence a woman. That's a conversation end up. That really is, isn't it? No, coming back from that, John.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I mean, what do I do? I say, Mel Alessandra, tagging. Because what they say, listen, we're girls, girls, and we're speaking our truth. And so you're all going to watch this year and you have to decide for yourselves, when is it appropriate to say certain things and when is it disrespectful and offensive? That's so interesting because when you said there was women that bandied together, I was like, cool, because often that doesn't happen in those shows. It's never happened before on our show. You have one or two women that have locked horns that are rivals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But we've never had a whole group of them en masse. try to overpower and dominate the entire experiment. Yeah, so 120 countries that Mass Australia goes to. It's even more popular than the UK. They do their own version. It's more popular. Totally. And I think, you know, I was thinking about that the other day.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like, why is it so popular? And I think people like to know whether there's two strangers can fall in love. You know, singles watch it to find out who are the red flags that I need to avoid. And couples watch it to go, we've got to do this differently. So we don't end up like that. So it kind of has a huge audience. You'd say season 13, by the most part, people who enter the show, no fair chance that they're probably not going to end up with someone,
Starting point is 00:25:10 but they can use it as a good promotional tool to launch careers. I mean, now, and then there was different 10 years ago, but now they're all aware of life after maths. So this is their 15 minutes. I mean, we now know that most of them, fame will be something that's a big driver for them, but we also need them to be wanting to find love on the show. Yeah, how do you know if their intentions are not quite there
Starting point is 00:25:32 for finding love? Well, I think they filled out an application for me. Yeah. You just got to accept the fact that now, my mindset is everyone I see for the show will have some drive for fame. But also I'm looking for the fact that are you going to be authentic on the show? Will you show us the good, the bad and the ugly? And this year there's a lot of ugly. Ugly.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh. And you'll go, oh my goodness, I know why you're single. I say that all the time. Yeah. From the couch. I know why you're single. But my favorite bit is when you tell them off, when you get a teaser and John's like,
Starting point is 00:26:07 listen here, I'm like, here we go. He's just trying to silence a woman. How many people are you telling off this season? I go hard at all of them, but ultimately we also get Mel coming in. What we realised is that they kind of look at me as this old guy on the couch who's just yelling at them. So Mel jumps in and really tries to level them.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But they don't like it. They don't have this ability for self-awareness. Interesting, like you mentioned, it's been going so long, that the dating scene would have just, you would have just seen a complete change and how people date away from the show. Yeah, so now TikTok is where they go for their dating and relationship advice. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Absolutely, yes. I mean, we've had the trad wife mindset. We've got the pink and blue jobs. We've got the warrior mindset. So they're very much getting in your fem role, your masculine role. It's very, very popular. to go there for your advice. Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
Starting point is 00:27:05 The people giving the advice are not John Aiken. They're not experts. A guy with no shirt on an ice bath. That's right. That's John sometimes. I'm relaxing. Do you think generally it's good a bad... I don't think it's a great platform to get advice
Starting point is 00:27:21 because it's usually very short. It's not just relationships. You look at the fitness industry. People giving advice, you know, about eating a certain way and they've got no nutritional expertise, but that's where they go. And so what we find on our show, they'll say things to me,
Starting point is 00:27:36 which I've never ever heard before, but they'll say it like a fact. They'll say, John, you've got to match me with someone who's going to give me pretty babies. And I'll say, well, why? Well, the studies show that if you've got pretty babies, you're going to be successful. What studies?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Studies, John. There's studies. And they've seen it on TikTok, and they've got an algorithm, and they're just seeing pretty babies. and so the number of people on the show will come in saying the same thing. Got to give me someone that will give me pretty babies. So that's an example of how it actually just perpetuates problems.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Marriott at First Side Australia back on our screens and on three now as well. Thanks so much for your time. John O'Ben and Megan, the podcast. John Aiken, relationship expert from Marriott at First Site, still hanging out with us in the studio every morning where you have a dear meet. Once a week, we have a dear Megan. And this morning's one, while everyone said, don't take the guy back into the relationship.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Can we ask you something that's come through to Megan's DMs? So, juicy. People come to us with advice. Well, more you, we just sort of watch from the sidelines. I get lots of messages. I don't know why they asked me for advice, but we ended up putting out. You're relatable, relatable. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Put it on the radio. But not an expert. Yeah, and lots of people like, we'll offer some advice and opinions. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe we should put it to an expert today. Today's one is about a woman who she was married to her husband. husband for 17 years. And then he went through somewhat of a midlife crisis.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yes. Not uncommon. Left, left her for a year, changed his life, got an apartment, a motorbike, all of that. Oh, I was going to say Porsche, but no motorbike. Motorbike. All of that, like, what do you call it? cliche stuff. And now after a year he's come back and he said, I've made a mistake and I want to get back with
Starting point is 00:29:21 you. They've got two kids. She wants to know what to do because she doesn't trust him. But she still loves him. She's been betrayed. And she's trying to look at him now and understand who he is and why he's done this. And is he for real? Can this work?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yes, she can take him back, but she has to basically outline a blueprint for him and he has to follow. He has to do everything he can to win her back. No questions asked. So it has to be a different relationship. He has to apologize, be remorseful, answer any questions that she has. Take her shopping every week. Absolutely. He must have also changed the way he runs.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Blue jobs. No, no, that was so that sounded weird, didn't it? I think he said blue jobs. I'm talking about pink and blue jobs. She's writing the list, isn't she? I was thinking, why is he getting all these? I was sorry, that wasn't what it was, no. Get your minds out of the gutter, guys.
Starting point is 00:30:21 You said it. But I think also what she's going to do is she's got to say, Listen, marriage number one is dead. If you're coming back, this is marriage number two. It's got to be fresh. It's got to be new, unique, and we've got to have different rules. However they might be, she's got to lay them out. And he then has to look at her and go, I'm going to do the heavy lifting.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And anything that I can do to win you back, I'm going to do it. And over time, and it's going to take quite a while, she's going to start trusting him again. But he's got to follow through with every promise, every different rule. Everything's got to be new. Yes, it's hard to really want it. But if he wants it, that's, you know. And if he resists, if he gets defensive, if he's sarcastic, if he's sort of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:03 breaking the odd promise here and that, forget it. God help my husband if he ever did that. The list would be extensive. A lot of blue jobs on the agenda around the house. Yeah, exactly. Taking the bins out there. That's right. I will, John, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Really do appreciate your time. Always fun chatting with you. It's a pleasure, guys. 7 o'clock on three. Three now. Can't wait. Back again. Maripersite, season 13
Starting point is 00:31:29 and buckle up because the boss babes. They're coming. We'll catch you for season 14 next year, same time. John O'Ben and Megan The podcast. Today it was Super Bowl. It was Sunday in America.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It's a huge day. All the stars were out there, all the coverage everywhere from the commercials to the debate about the halftime performance. The game itself. Now, I'm a big fan of sports and I enjoy watching American football.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I found it quite boring the game. Oh, really? I thought it was quite a boring. It wasn't the best showpiece for, you know, it was just one of those games a bit tense, lots of shots of coaches and quarterbacks reading playbooks. Look like they were looking at the Denny's menu or something for ages.
Starting point is 00:32:05 They were just like, oh, I don't know, maybe I could have an entree or maybe we could share a garlic bread. It looked like that, you know, just lots of shots, them just reading up stuff. To the mid, to your wider population, the game sort of plays a secondary role. Yes. America do things really big, don't they? Sporting events,
Starting point is 00:32:20 missiles, portion sizes, they go large. The fighter jets over the time. Because I went to one game there at Levi Stadium, but it was just an in-season game for the 49ers. That's where they play. And they had fighter jets that game. You know, they had five-chets. Fighter Jets are ready to go.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I know. More of them yesterday. It was epic. But Bad Bunny, of course. I see why Trump wants to get them out and do some wars, because all they're doing is flying over football games at the beginning. Bad Bunny was the halftime performer, and he was great. He was really, really good.
Starting point is 00:32:49 But obviously a lot of debate, like were there anything these days. America is very divided at the moment. They're like, we need to. a true American half-time show. It's like, well, Bad Bunny is an American citizen. Yeah, from Puerto Rico. Got an American passport. So they featured a lot in his performance,
Starting point is 00:33:07 kind of like shouting out ice and all the division. But in like a nice way, yeah. What can I tell you about it? First of all, the grasses were people. The grass on the side of the performance were people. All right. They all come running out.
Starting point is 00:33:24 We should put the performance. It's up on The Hits Breakfast so you know what we're talking about. So that, like, I guess they have to get a whole production onto the field and off the field and a very short amount of time. I wanted one of those jobs that's coming out there like a tree. It's a piece of grass. Yeah, that was great. You'd be like, I'm in the Super Bowl halftime show.
Starting point is 00:33:40 What are you? I think I played a tree in a school playwright. Yeah, exactly. Nathaniel. And he had to, like, brought out celebrities as well. Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. A lot of people were like, Like, I don't like that version. What were you doing there? I thought it was great. Obviously, there was the, you know, about Bad Bunny and there was the whole like, there's another one. There's another half-time show, right?
Starting point is 00:34:11 The alternative half-time show. So this was the turning point halftime show. So you could flip between the two depending on your. One's like a $15 million production with fireworks and choreography and then you switch over to the halftime on the alternative turning point and you get. A song's about fish, a lot of songs about. fish. I just want to catch my fish.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Drive my truck drink my beer. It's not a way that you can't even make that up. I want to kiss my fish. I mean, hey, you push it. I mean, hey. We just want to kiss our fish and drive our tracks and drink our beers. And there's another fish-based song too, apparently.
Starting point is 00:34:45 You can tell your old man, you'll do some large mouth fish in another time. You got too much on your plate. Oh my goodness. So what I love yesterday was that, you know, there was, was a meme going around saying, yeah, Bad Bunny was, you know, it was like, was not in English, you know? And then they had this meme of Kid Rock going around who was performing. Barwa to Barba, bang, bang, jigger, diggy.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's like, you can't understand what Bad Bunny's saying. And then they had this is a meme. And I was like, well, fair, good point. Good point. What was the Kid Rock saying? Who knows? It was so nice to see Kid Rock dressed up for the occasion in his jorts and his t-shirt. Was he wearing shorts, was he?
Starting point is 00:35:27 He was. I imagine he had very serious. skinny little legs. Yeah. Yeah. It's Kid Rock. Skinny little legs. Do we think, bad bunny,
Starting point is 00:35:37 because he was wearing kind of a quarterback, a full Zara outfit, by the way, Spanish. But do we think he was wearing a bulletproof vest under that? Oh, potentially. It did look bulky. Well, they worried someone was going to have a go at him. Well, I think the rumor was, like they haven't confirmed that at Grammys,
Starting point is 00:35:51 he was wearing a bulletproof vest. And then it kind of looked bulky again. Probably, you know, like American football style. But they also have the protective gear underneath too, so it could have just been a chest plate as well.

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