Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL SHOW: Why Is Megan Ecstatic For Her Surgery?

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

ON THE SHOW TODAY: We go LIVE to Jack tame to see how the Democratic Party is doing! Crazy mum theories... If it has preservatives it can't expire! An amazing hack to our Mariah Carey game! Ben has a superpower Can you get 10/10 on the NZ Herald Quiz! Shout out to all the Suzys!!! Facebook: The Hits Breakfast with Jono and Ben Instagram: THEHITSBREAKFASTSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is John O'Bien podcast. Hey, that's us. Brought to you by HelloFresh, the experts and tastes that Kiwis love. Welcome to the podcast on your Thursday. That's a big one today. We obviously go to America a couple of times. So with our New York correspondent, Nicole, we talked to her and Jack Tame in America as well. He says he's at the loser party. The good thing about Jack is he's like, yeah, yeah, because he's coming home. But Nicole lives there. She's got to deal with it. She's got to deal with the fallout. Yeah, so I was going to say your mum.

I didn't know how I could change from that topic. Just again, change your mum, Megan. Great, great theory in regards to digesting KFC. Is that a great theory? She used to think we'd only have it every now and then. And she used to think that if she put it in the oven for like 15 minutes after we'd bought it, it would like seep all the fat out of it. Sizzle it away.

But it just ended up going rock hard. That coating doesn't do well in the oven for 15 minutes. Was that the first one? Because the first one we had in Marsden Fast Food was KFC. That was the first to arrive. That's what we had. Was that a big day? That was a big day.

I think it was there, yeah. I remember as a kid it was there and then later, and then McDonald's. Oh, when McDonald's arrived. I know. Because you used to have to go to like Palmerston North or the Big Smoke, you know, Wellington, or the Hut to go get, oh, sorry, McDonald's

or anything like that before. When you grew up in Marsden, in terms of smoke, what was big? Like when you went to wear. Like Palmerston North. That was the big smoke. That's a stance, yeah. That's why I'm passionate about Parmy

because people are always like, oh, Parmy this. And I'm like, mate, we could only have dreamed of being in Parmy in Masterson. I remember like people from Blenheim. They had all sorts. Traffic lights.

Yeah. People from Blenheim used to come for like traffic lights, glass ins in McDonald's. I think Marston had one set of traffic lights when I was a kid and then they got rid of it

so they had no lights. They got rid of it? Yeah, put a roundabout in. It wasn't enough traffic to really like. Gold towns love a roundabout. Yeah,

I know, you're like waiting, you're like, who am I waiting for? So I think, yeah, they're like, get rid of this.

I don't think they have now, unless it's changed, they haven't been back there for a while they haven't been no traffic lights maybe they wanted to see more populated than they actually

and they're like this is a waste of time it's a big waste it's the pro technician has to come work on it every year like why am I doing this again

anyway enjoy the podcast today and we'll catch you back tomorrow exciting day for you today Megan not many people would be excited about this event.

I think you'd be surprised. I think a lot of parents would be stoked about this. I'm getting just a little minor surgery on my hand. I've got carpal tunnel, if you know what that is. No. Just all the nerves and stuff get clenched, get squished, so they just open it up so they can breathe again. You've had this operation on the other hand, right?

Yeah. It's just like a quick one. you just have a sore hand afterwards but um they rung me up and they were like do you want like an arm block so just like a local or do you want a general anesthetic and i was like girl hit me with the general option b thank you i hope you said that too not me i did i said to her i was like that sounds like a bloody good sleep yeah hit me with it and she was like yeah no problem so today i'm gonna have a general anesthetic and a lie down in the middle of the day with no one touching me and yelling at me and i've cleared my calendar do you feel better off like what do you or do you feel woozy waking up from that

no i feel quite woozy. Yeah, you do, but you're out for, I would reckon there's a market for it. Overtired adults, you're like, okay, how long do you want to be asleep for, mate? Oh, can you do me a 14 hours? You call it like the coma cabana. Yeah. They just jab it in you, you're out, you're knocked out and wake up feeling like a million dollars, pat on the bum, out you get.

It's actually the dream. Like a little minor surgery, not life-threatening, and you get to have the day to yourself. Day to yourself, not remembering it. Feeling woozy. And even if I feel good, I'm going to go home and be like, oh my God, I feel, oh, I can't do anything. Oh, I might have to have chips for dinner.

And I might have to go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's just, I'm going to chuck out a hypothetical here. Okay, what would you be willing to do to yourself to get in this situation? So you've got to break something or? I would, I'd break a bone. You'd break a bone?

No, but then they're just going to put you, they're not going to put you to sleep, are they? They need to have a general anesthetic. All I'm thinking of is, I'll say nothing. All I'm thinking of is a to-do list piling up. Like, I'm out for four hours. I'm like, well, I'm going to go make that time up somewhere else. That's my problem with sleeping during the day. I'm like, well, great.

But then I've just got stuff I need to do. Like, no one's going to do it for me. Even in a coma, he's like, oh, do you have stuff to do? Yeah, if I had to, sweet. But if I didn't have to, then I'd rather not. And, like, a plastic surgery would be a good one I'd still have to come home and walk the dog and do all the things

you know like it'd be like I'd be out hobbling around the street with a you know I reckon the family

I don't know I don't know your family dynamics but I reckon they'd walk the dog for you no that's the thing if you're in hospital they have to pick it up if I'm in hospital

yeah they have to pick up your jobs probably bring the dog in for me alright mate imagine walking he can walk it's an armadillo cool we bring the dog in for me. He can walk.

It's an armadillo. Cool. We brought the dog in. He can walk around the block. A man who won't even relax in a coma. There we go. That's me. It'd be the worst nightmare stuff,

being in a coma, I imagine. You wake up in the middle like, oh, it's so good to see you, Ben. You're like, did you get it all done? The dog. We should be walking the dog. So all this stuff to do. You would leave your family with a to-do list to do, and then when you woke up, none of it would be done. The dog. We're walking the dog. All the stuff to do. You would leave your family with a to-do list to do,

and then when you woke up, none of it would be done. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast. Well, Donald Trump is not only the 45th president of the United States, looks like he's the 47th as well. Has that ever happened? Once before. It has.

1893, Grover Cleveland was the last president to have four years gap in between. They've had a president called Grover. Yeah. He went deep into the three books there. It's actually a copy and paste, a couple of lines of the article on Donald Trump. That's in the first three lines saying he becomes just the second American to win another term after a gap of four years. We were just saying before the show, you're watching us. And it was that realization of we don't live there do you we don't live you're not doing the daily

grind and i guess well the votes said what really affects or people's lives and uh yeah they have for whatever reason they thought they had more money under trump and there were no wars under trump and i think yeah you're right and we are I keep banging on about Bob, the taxi driver that I met in America. And as I was driving, he's driving me to the airport a couple months ago. And he's like, exactly saying those things. I had more money under Trump. I wasn't a Trump supporter, but all that. And we're not living there.

And maybe there is a thing because Kamala and Joe Biden are the current people in charge. And sometimes people are just ready for a change. And they were handed a bit of a poison chalice in terms of cost of living, global financial crisis. Coming off the back of COVID. Yeah, so we thought maybe results

wouldn't be happening for a few days, but it looks like Trump, well, last night, New Zealand time, got on stage and he pretty much accepted that he was going to be the next president. And he tried to drag this lady called Susie up. Susie was obviously a background person in the team. Susie does not want to speak.

She was going, no, no, no, please don't. Appreciation for Susie and the job you did. Susie. Come, Susie. Come here. Come here, Susie. Susie likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you. Susie likes to stay in the background. She's not in the background. Thank here, Susie. Susie likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you. Susie likes to stay in the background.

She's not in the background. Thank you, Susie. Look at her. She's shy. I've never seen her be shy before. This reminds me of what you do, Jono. Susie. This is such a Jono move.

Go on up. Do something there. Susie's like, please stop talking to me. Tell us your high-low buffalo, Susie. But what will you think about in the last few months and I know from an assassination attempt, you know, Joe Biden standing down as well. He's a convicted

felon. You know, all these things it's just wild to think about and who could have picked it? Well, Mu Deng. Now guys producer Grace has been telling us to talk about Mu Deng for ages. A pygmy hippopotamus. It's a little hippo. Very cute.

So cute. Gone viral. It's everywhere. Super sassy. She's like, you need to keep talking about Mu Deng. She really wants us to be quite heavy on the Mu Deng content. And we hadn't. We hadn't.

But until now, because Mu Deng was chosen to predict who would win the election by two watermelon to eat. And Mu Deng will have a listen. Thailand's baby hippo mudang put in her prediction for the next american president zookeepers presented her with two fruit baskets each with the names of the presidential candidates and mudang had did choose the basket with trump on it they were filled with dragon fruit and watermelon for her so this of course was like before guys the election actually happened. So Mu Ding.

Hey, we should have been talking about Mu Ding more because Mu Ding knew who was going to win. We should put Mu Ding on our social pages. Very cute. Did you see Barron Trump? Six foot nine. He's huge. Six foot nine. Did you see him on stage?

But when did that happen? 18 years old now. I guess he's just shot up since the last time. Would have been eight years ago that maybe you saw him on stage where he last won. Six foot nine. Six foot nine, apparently. He's huge. Did you not see him on stage?

I did see him. But you can't tell on TV. No. Six foot nine. Jeez. Unbelievable. Yeah, really. He walked up and they were like, there's Barron Trump.

We don't see him often. I'm like, whoa. Wow. Seven foot. That's impressive. The hits. The Jono and Ben Wow. Very, very tall. That's impressive. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast. Hard to avoid today.

Donald Trump looks to have secured the presidency for the second time. He's the 45th and 47th president of America. And it seems like he won it in a bit more of a landslide than we all thought. No one's been working harder than Jack Tame. He's won our popular vote. He's been on every radio station around, and we're thankful he's come back with us again. How's it going, Jack?

Doing every radio station, guys, but I can tell you what my favourite is. It's the hands down. Come on, too easy. You still exhibit? Yeah, that's it, of course. Who do you think pays the bills? Exactly, that's what I thought.

Jack, wow, hey, what a day. It was captivating viewing. Yeah, amazing, eh? I think we can say RIP political polling. Because, you know, this time yesterday we were saying, oh, it's going to be so tight, oh my gosh, we could be waiting days until we get the results. Wrong.

Turns out, of course, Donald Trump once again has defied conventional political wisdom and a pretty remarkable result. Well, yeah, we've been saying all morning, like we obviously get little pockets of information because generally, for the most part, it doesn't affect the day-to-day life of New Zealanders. But we don't live in America. Obviously, he was touching on matters that matter to the people.

Yeah, I think, you know, there are a couple of things I reckon we haven't appreciated well enough with Donald Trump. First of all is that you've got like tens of millions of people who are in communities and states where they traditionally relied on industry. So, you know, building stuff, cars are top of the list. And those are people who grew up with good middle class incomes. They looked at their parents. Their parents maybe just had a high school education, but they could afford a pretty good life. And those people today don't have anything like the standard of living that their parents' generation enjoyed. They feel like they've been ripped off. And, you know, they've got people on the coasts of America saying, oh, look, we're richer than ever.

Life is better than ever. And they're like, no, actually, I'm working at 7-Eleven. I've got all sorts of health care problems. I can't afford a very good standard of living, and I'm really pissed off about it. And I reckon Donald Trump has tapped into that in a massive way. So what was it like being over there last night? Because obviously you see the footage of Donald Trump's political rallies, lots of celebrations. It seemed on the other side,

everyone kind of, the lights got turned on, everyone got sent home. Oh, so I've just got this long history of being at loser parties which is just where they shouldn't even call them parties because it's so grim and i tell you what there's just nothing worse than being the guy who has to go up to people and being like how does it feel to lose can you tell me about it on television it's just like oh man this guy you're sort of waiting for someone to punch you in the throat, you know? Also, when you get back to, I'll invite you to a loser party. It's just me.

It's just me. I'm really starting to wonder if I'm the determining factor. I was going to say that, but I didn't want to be mean. Instead of having like clever economists or pollsters

or anything like that, you should just say, where is TVNZ sending Jack Kane? They're going to lose. They're going to lose. Have you ever got close to Donald Trump, like, over your years of political reporting? I mean, probably not more than, like, 10 metres, 5 or 10 metres.

I haven't, like, touched Donald Trump. Well, they were great metres. They were the greatest metres in the history of metres. They were great metres. Last night during his speech, something we found quite amusing is, listen, I don't know who Susie is, but obviously she was pivotal to his campaign. And he kept trying to pull,

drag Susie up to the microphone to say some, and Susie was like, please no, no, no, no. Appreciation for Susie and the job you did. Susie, come Susie, come here. Come here Susie. Come, Susie. Come here. Come here, Susie. Susie likes to stay

sort of in the back, let me tell you. Susie likes to stay in the background. She's not in the background. Thank you, Susie. Look at her. She's shy. I've never seen her be shy before. Susie. Susie. Who's Susie? Jack, do you know who Susie is? Susie's the campaign director.

Oh. Yeah, yeah. I mean, isn't this one of the things that I think people obviously Who's Susie? Jack, do you know who Susie is? Susie's the campaign director. Yeah, yeah. It all makes sense. But, I mean, this is one of the things that I think people obviously, like, you know, find refreshing about Donald Trump. Like, most people, if they were running for president, would have someone write two speeches. They'd have a speech for winning and a speech for losing in their pocket, and they would choose the right one on the night.

Donald Trump's like, nah, there are going to be a billion people watching me worldwide. Why would I bother writing any words down? I'm just going to stand up there at the election. I'm just going to freewheel. I'm just going to see where it goes. I'm just going to...

To drag other people up. You say some words. Oh, you say some words. Yeah. Very funny. Very funny. Well, there we go. Life goes on though

and no matter where you sit on it, the sun will come up tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, too right. Hey, Kamala Harris is going to concede at about midday, we reckon, New Zealand time as well. So if you want to watch a loser speech

in part two of the loser party, that's the place to be. That's where you'll be. We appreciate your time over there and thanks so much for doing it a couple of times for us. Oh, good, guys. Take care.

The funny theories that your mums have because Rayway, your mum. Yeah, good, guys. Take care. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. The funny theories that your mums have, because Rayway, your mum, Yeah, she used to have one. So we used to, every now and then, as a special treat, on a Friday, we would get KFC. And so my parents would drive to get it. We'd get like a bunch of chicken. But

she'd come home, and we weren't allowed to eat it then, because she had a theory that if she cooked it again in the oven, she would get rid of some of the fat. Right, incinerate off the grease and guilt. And then once it came out of the oven, it had to sit on paper towels and then dab it down. And I was like, at this point, let's just commit to it.

It's a treat. And just eat it. Suck it up, yeah. Just literally suck it. It's a treat. And just eat it. Suck it up. Yeah. Just literally suck it up. It went from KFC to Ray FC in a half an hour blitz in the oven. But I tell you, like, all it did was make the crumb, like, rock hard. It was like rocks.

So what about, like, the chips or anything like that? No, the chips would go in the oven too. Oh, yeah. The whole shebang. She's undoing all of the Colonel's good work. Any juiciness from that chicken had gone. It was dried through and through. Taking out the corn from the little yellow bag that used to come in as well.

I used to love the corn. I was a fan of the corn, but yeah. Remember they used to give you little towelettes? Moist towelettes. You could mop everything off. Loads of moist towelettes. Yeah, so that was Roro's theory, that if you chucked the KFC in the oven, it would make it healthier. Mums do have

interesting theories. My mum, anything with preservatives in it, she's like, ignore the expiry date. I was like, oh this is way expired.

She's like, ah it's got preservatives in it, it'll be fine. And so she'll just push stuff years over the line. Has she ever got

food poisoning? Oh my stepdad all the time. Oh really? Oh he's got an upset stomach today. I'm like, yeah. Because he's eating chicken from 2012.

The mayo's been off for four years. But anyway. He's got an upset stomach today. That's such a parent thing. That doesn't affect her. Hers is like iron. I don't know. Maybe not.

I don't know. But they're taking some risk. But anything with her theory, preservatives, which I don't think is the right theory. I mean, know, maybe not. I don't know, but they're taking some risk. But anything with her theory, preservatives, which I don't think is the right theory. I mean, yes, it does keep things longer, but not as long as she'll push it out, yeah? Oh, that is very funny. Well, there's also the popular one too.

Annie was a fan of this, and I'm sure your parents are as well. The half an hour time required between digesting food and going swimming. Oh, yes. Is that not a thing? Has anyone ever gone in under that 30 minutes? Does anyone know what happens? I think you die. Do you sink? Straight away.

Wasn't that the theory that you like sink? Sink to the bottom. Has anyone tried this? I've taken into my parent teaching Don't you get in there for 30 minutes! Don't swallow chewing gum because it's going to last for 7 years in your stomach. I don't think that's factual.

I don't know. I don't think so. The hits. The Jono and Ben podcast. Vegan, your mum, Ray. She reckoned that if she put KFC chicken in the oven for like an extra, maybe it felt like half an hour. Maybe it was like 15 minutes.

It would make it healthier. It like got all the fat out of it. Burnt off the 11 secret herbs and spices. KFC the next day after you put it in the fridge is good. Oh, yeah. Cold KFC, yeah. Might as well just roll that theory. Yeah.

I need to have KFC. I haven't had it in a long time. I miss KFC. Yeah, so mum theories. That's what we're talking about. And actually, I just want to mention one. My wonderful mother-in-law, Cathy, she's a lovely lady. Very lovely. And she, I sound like Donald Trump. Lovely lady. Beautiful. One of the greatest mother-in-law, Kathy, she's a lovely lady, very lovely. And she, I sound like Donald Trump.

Lovely lady, beautiful. One of the greatest mother-in-laws of all time. That's the lovely lady part of the story. You're just trying to get some brownie points. Lovely lady, lovely lady. Lovely lady. She's like, whenever anything terrible happens on the news, you know, any bad news, she'll be like, drugs or gangs.

Every time she's saying drugs or gangs. And to be fair to her, it is generally either drugs or gangs. So much so, she says all the time, we're going to get it on a T-shirt for Christmas, just saying drugs or gangs. And to be fair to her, it is generally either drugs or gangs. So much so, she says all the time, we're going to get it on a T-shirt for Christmas, just saying drugs or gangs. But we don't know if that was like, what is that saying, that T-shirt? Is it supporting both camps?

Yeah, yeah. Is it giving you an option? Yeah, true. So your mum theories this morning on 0800 The Hits. Let's go to Kylie. How are you? Good morning. How are you?

Good. Well, what was your mum's theory, Kylie? Well, I've now got teenage children, but for many years my children believed that I had a set of eyes in the back of my head. Oh, yeah. They didn't understand things like reflection and, you know, things like that. So, you know, they'd say to me, oh, well, how do you get a set of eyes in the back of your head?

And I said, when you become a parent, you automatically see them. Good theory, good theory. When they can't comprehend reflection, that's a great period of parenting there. Love your call, Kylie. Did they ever ask to see your eyes? Yes, they did, and I said, well, you can't because they're magic. We're out there, and I've got them in the back of my head. Oh, kids, they did. And I said, well, you can't because they're magic. They're a rave.

And I put them in the back of my head. Oh, kids, they're so dumb. That's not what I thought you were going to say. Sweet. Innocent. Only for a period, though. Ben and me, we're in the stage where we're getting outsmarted now. Yeah, there was a sweet spot.

Hey, appreciate you, cool. Kylie, some great texts coming through coming through too on 4487. Mum theories, don't sit too close to the TV. Your eyes will roll out of your head. Oh, yeah, square eyes. Still eyes, circular, and in the head. Did you get that one where you get the hiccups and then they're like, what did you steal? You're like, wait, what, nothing?

Yeah, you got the hiccups, you stole something. I don't know if it was like a way to be like, okay, I'm coming clean. Oh, no, I didn't know. I've never known about that one. I didn't know if it was like a way to be like, okay, I'm coming clean. Oh, no, I didn't know. I've never known about that. I didn't know hiccuping was associated with theft. You did get busted for something at the Rick and Morton. When I was 11, one time.

So no wonder they were always on your case. Maybe it's every time she hiccups. They're guilt hiccups. And the cold, my mum always says, don't get cold, you'll get sick. You'll catch a cold if you get cold. I'm like, no, I think that's bacteria. I think it's germs.

One more great text, too, before we go. I don't know where we're going, but it says, my mum would always say, I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it. Casual death threat for a mum. Threatening theory there. You'll probably also go to prison, too. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Threatening theory there You'll probably also go to prison too Looks like Donald Trump is going to be

A president all over again The 47th And the 45th president of the United States Kamala Harris has not officially Conceded or anything like that But it looks like Donald Trump's got it And we are heading to New York now Our good friend Nicole Ryan

Hosts a breakfast show in New York now. Our good friend Nicole Ryan hosts a breakfast show in New York City. She joins us on the line now. How are you, Nicole? I mean, are you guys worried about me? I'm not very concerned. You are. This morning on our show, I said to our producer Ben, I said, I feel like my New Zealand friends are concerned. They're genuinely worried about me. That was what I felt like yesterday before everything was counted, all the ballots were counted. Well, you didn't know what was going to happen if it went either way. And as you've woken this morning in the U.S., what has been the reaction?

Listen, life goes on, right? It's like somebody wins, somebody loses and that's just the way that it is. That's it this is your president and just hope for the best. I was watching CNN and there was this guy and he was a Democrat supporter and he was like I just want to say to everyone, he's like

I don't think that the left should see this as a vote against them or their beliefs. I think people, he was saying, voted for Trump because they believe under him they got more money. Whether it's right or wrong, there were less wars in the world and he said that's what he believes was the reason. Yeah, but isn't that the way that it goes, right?

You care about one or two of issues that are important to you and the rest of you just accept. But some of the things that people voted for and the things that they're just accepting are the scary things that are just accepted you know how much how much do you think and this is just a big you know like a question that maybe you don't have the answer for but how much do you think it was because of you know kamala being part of sort of joe biden's organization and people wanting change i don't think that helped her like right she kind of fell into like it was like she fell into the position. Nobody like elected her by default.

She became and I think a lot of people were like bitter about that. At least like the people that I have talked to, like no one, no one said that she should be, you know, the candidate. But like, that's just the way that the machine works. So, yes, I think that there's a good amount of people like that. I was trying to I'm like, okay, look at some positives here. So I watched Trump's victory speech. And what did you think about it?

Because I thought, like, maybe a little bit more humble than usual. Still rambling. Yes. Still rambling. Loves to move his accordion hands. Yeah, no, I did. I saw some of it. And I feel as though, yes, I think that that was smart on his part,

not to be like, screw them and all derogatory as he wants to be sometimes. What he said, I was like, all right. Again, hope for the best. I felt like, but no, I felt like there was a little bit more of, it felt more genuine than the Trump we normally see. I loved it when, I don't know who Susie was, but he's like, let's get Suzy up here to say a few words.

Suzy, it's a job you did. Suzy. Come, Suzy. Come here. Come here, Suzy. Suzy likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you. Look at her. She's shy.

I've never seen her be shy before. Suzy. Sounds like something you'd do, John. I feel like this whole thing, like leading up, I feel like during this whole thing leading up I feel like he's had some weird flub moments like that he was saying he was a huge fan of somebody that was

a man and he was like she's hot she's so hot and then it was a man he just rambled and his little A-lon ramble all about the spaceship I feel like it's. All about the spaceship. Yeah.

Listen, I feel like it's hard for any political candidate to just speak all the time for that long. And that's what you walked into. But I don't know. You have to. I don't know. I would be a bumbling idiot. But again, thank God I'm not. So that's true. You're right.

No real time to prepare anything and just getting up there. So what happens now? What happens now in America? When does Joe Biden exit? And it looks like, you know, barring anything crazy. Doesn't it feel like he's already exited? I feel like he's just in a field walking. It felt like he exited when he was president.

Also, guys, isn't it way more fun to talk about celebrities? Let's get back to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that next week. It doesn't hurt as bad. Exactly. I want to call, I think it'll be over there. And it was, yeah, a surprise surprise but not surprised with the results yesterday.

Take care of yourself and we'll look forward to talking to you next week. All right. Have a good one, guys. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Now we are on a bit of a, speaking of all things jingly, our little jingle balls are on their own little mission, aren't they, team? We are trying to avoid listening to Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas, the official anthem of Christmas.

And this is, again, not coming in from an anti-Christmas hate speech. Real positive vibes on this show, aren't we? Yeah, we love it. Megan was going to get her house Christmassed up yesterday. Stop doing that. You play your alarm. That sounds a lot like Mariah Carey. So basically we're just trying to avoid it for as long as possible.

The most iconic Christmas song. Yesterday, as soon as you hear it, sorry, you're out of the game. And you've just got to tell us. 4, 4, 8, 7, the other game. Yesterday afterwards, after work, two high-risk environments for me. Firstly, had to go into the mall, pick up some stuff. I recorded a quick little bit, just my nerves in the mall. Okay, here at the mall. Christmas time.

Well, not quite Christmas time. It's still November. A very high-risk environment. Got to get in, get out before I hear Mariah Carey. Wish me luck. And yeah, didn't hear anything. But the whole time, you're conscious that maybe over the loudspeaker, every shop you go into. A lot of Christmas stuff everywhere.

And then last night, I saw your husband Andrew was there as well a Christmas movie now it's the new movie Sound of the Rock and as soon as it started I was excited about the rock and as soon as it started

I was like they started playing a Christmas song I was like oh no there's got to be multiple Christmas songs and there were throughout the movie

but thankfully not that song they didn't get the rights but I was just like uh oh uh oh you know bracing yourself yeah so Christmas movies the other one I hadn't thought but thankfully not that song. They didn't get the rights. But I was just like, uh-oh, uh-oh. Bracing yourself, yeah.

So Chris's movie's the other one I hadn't thought that could trip you up. Especially a new movie. Yeah, this one, The Rock, Christmas. And I was like, oh, I don't know what songs are going to be coming up. But thankfully for me, there was not Mariah Carey. So many texts, too, coming through on 4487. People who work in retail. Hi, I work in retail and I still haven't heard it yet and I'm going to be avoiding it.

I wear headphones now to the supermarket to avoid hearing it for this game. Oh, that's a good play. You could have worn headphones to the mall. And the movie. Just listen to something else. What's he listening to? Another text here.

Guys, I'm out. Heard it in Woolworths Glenfield yesterday. So, actually text 4487 Have you been Mariah'd Already Are you out of The game

Do you know that song She recorded in A short amount of time Wasn't it Oh yeah Wrote it in 15 minutes Yeah But it was released

In 1994 And it didn't chart Until 2012 What Yeah Because apparently There were rules around the charts and Christmas songs.

So it didn't actually officially chart until 2012. It didn't even get in the top 100. But we were loving it before 2012, right? It just wasn't in the charts. We're still loving it. Like Jono said, we're not trying to hate on that song. It's iconic. We just thought it'd be fun to see how long we could avoid

listening to it. You can play along. You you could start right now that's fine we're making up the rules as we go along for this game so see how long you can take uh to avoid mariah carey's all i want for christmas but you need to let us know four four eight seven uh when you do hear it and you're out of the game because when we're all out we'll start playing the song the hits the jonah and ben podcast my wife has pulled me up, I don't know if you guys are the same, and I know where maybe it's come from, doing this job where you're having a conversation but you're listening to other things going on. Even in TV, people are talking in your ears, and she'll often be talking to me,

and then she'll go, you're not listening, are you? And to be fair, my mind might be with something else, or I might be listening to something else going on. Eyes have glazed. But then I've got some, I don't have many things I can do well, My mind might be with something else or I might be listening to something else going on. Eyes have glazed. But then I've got some time. I don't have many things I can do well, but for some reason I can go, yeah. And I can relay what they've said.

And I slowly can piece it together. Oh, but you're not confident. And it winds her up. She's like, yes, that's exactly what I was saying. But you definitely weren't listening. I was listening. You heard me, but you didn't listen. And it's like it takes a little bit of process. And I'm like, yeah, well, no, you were talking about that.

And I'm like, I definitely wasn't fully listening fully listening technically your brain's digested the information yeah physically you don't look like you're there i know let's give it a theory now okay i'll talk to you then megan you come in and you start so am i trying to look are you trying to listen to me okay okay ben so after the show don't forget where to go to the mall and we're going to do that thing and we're going to be filming because of Megan. She's got a little bit later. Can't do it when you're doing it. So Jono wants to go to the mall and he kind of trailed off about stuff.

Megan was talking about his surgery today. I couldn't even concentrate. But you were listening because I said something about Megan, she's going to have to do something. Well no, I missed that part. It's good skill. School will serve me no purposes other than just kind of having two conversations

kind of going and getting 70% of the information at the same time. It's quite like... I'll let you do that to us a lot. Yeah, probably. You could join the Avengers and they're like, what are you bringing to the party?

Well, you start talking to me. And I'll kind of get a little bit of both conversations. And then when Iron Man goes, what was I saying before? I'm like, I think you were talking about this. He's like, yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying. In the ballpark conversation guy. That's my Avengers superhero.

The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. If you'd like to try the New Zealand Herald daily quiz, you can get it online at thenewzealandherald.co.nz. Every morning we play it to see if we can get 10 out of 10. And once we get a wrong answer we stop though. Once we've reached those lofty heights haven't we of the double digits. We had a little sniff of victory, now we want to snort.

We're back for more. Ready for a big snort this morning Ali. Alright mate. Have you had to peruse through the questions producer Ali? I have actually, so I do it every time so that I know the answers and I don't want to jinx it but I got quite a few right on my own, and I

feel like this could be your day, guys. This could be our day. This could be our land side victory. You say that, and then the three of us are like, what? Yeah, and you can play as well, text 4487 if you're listening, and you know any answers. We'd love your help, too. Question number one. Which body of water lies between Great Britain and France?

Is it the North Sea, Caspian Sea or English Channel? The English Channel is... Isn't that Ireland and England? David Walliams we had and he swam the English Channel. I'm just trying to think about can you read can you read it again which body of water lies between

Great Britain and France North Sea Caspian Sea or English Channel I knew you were getting that I nearly

blew my pants this is the sea music the choppy sea music they always play on Instagram videos when they see shipping containers tipping over in the ocean. Oh, jeez. I don't know why I thought channel, but I might be wrong, so I don't know.

Should we lock it in? The English channel. Let's lock it. Yep. That's correct. The English channel. Well done, Ben. But you know when you say it and you're like, well, it's not really based on,

maybe it's wrong and you start backing out of it. Nice work. Okay. What type of bean paste is traditionally used in sweet bao buns? Is it green bean, black bean or red bean? Red bean. Is it red bean? Red bean.

That is correct. Oh, Megan. Nice. That's it, Megan. Woo. All right. Who is the giant in Greek mythology forced to hold up the sky? Oh, sorry.

I've got to give you the option. Yeah, that'd be great. Sorry. I was like, I don't know that straight off the top of my head. I was going to go Zeus, but I don't know any others. Barrett Trump. Barrett Trump's got it. It's always 6'9".

6'9"? Yeah. So the options are Cyclopes, Atlas, or Sisyphus. Sisyphus. Sisyphus? Sisyphus? Oh, no. Cyclops? Cyclops had the one eye.

Atlas is always holding up the world, but is that? Well, there we go. He's holding up the sky. He's doing the job. He's holding up the sky. There you go, Ben. Is that the answer? That is correct.

Nice work. Bragging about how much weight you can lift. There you go. He's lifting tin. All right, what is the currency of Fiji? Is it the Fijian dollar, Fijian pound, or Fijian rupee? It's the Fijian dollar, isn't it? Dollar, yeah.

That's correct. That one makes you think about it, though. I thought it was bulla bucks. Sometimes they get you to transfer into buller bucks. What's that? Is that like a- It's like a local currency when you go to a resort and pretend that all the poverty's not happening outside sort of thing.

Oh, lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, hey, buy some buller bucks. And you're like, what's the rate on it? You can't exchange your buller bucks back. Oh, really? They hold on to those bucks. Okay.

So we're four from four. You're four from four, yeah. Question number five. Which country has the largest railway network in the world? Is it Russia, United States or China? Well you go Russia because it's the biggest land mass isn't it? It's the biggest land mass in the world So you have a lot of

She's making some facials Well you might go China Okay let's go 4, 4, 8, 7 on the text John O's confident it was Russia But now he's backing out of it Well, you might go China. Okay, let's go. 4487 on the text. Jono's confident it was Russia, but now he's backing out of it. So 4487 on the text. Most amount of rail in the country?

Yeah, the largest railway network in the world. Okay. Recite those again, sorry, Ellie. Russia, United States, or China. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Try and get 10 out of 10 in the New Zealand Herald Daily Quiz. Thanks so much to everyone texting through, helping us out so far. Jeez, I tell you what, when you do get 10 out of 10, it really sets the day off on a positive trajectory, doesn't it?

Five from five so far, Aotearoa. What's the next question, Producer Ellie? All right, question number six. Which British monarch had the shortest reign, lasting only nine days? Was it Lady Jane Grey? George. Go on, we'll go with George.

Is George an option? Catherine Howard or Mary the First? Oh, they're all chicks. Yeah, of course. Lock in George. We'll go with George.

They're all ladies. Yeah, which one had the shortest reign? Why, what happened to her? I'm pretty sure she got beheaded. Oh, really? I think it's one of those ones.

One of those. I'll just double check my facts there, though. Hang on. That's a big claim. That's a huge claim I've made there. Pretty sure she had her head chopped off. She's hysterical. Off with her head.

Wise, wild claims. Okay, well, I've honestly no idea with this one. I missed the answers because I was waiting for George. Okay, so the answers were either Lady Jane Grey, Catherine Howard or Mary I. Did this person get beheaded? We've jumped

a huge assumption. She could have died of... Sorry, Mary, I was looking at Lady Jane Grey there. Mary, did you get beheaded? I can confirm that Lady Jane Grey did get beheaded Oh really? Did she? Yep

Good lord Imagine that They were better at beheading everyone back in the day, weren't they? Yeah, they were Mary looks like she might have died from cancer Oh, okay Slightly different one there So it wasn't Mary

Apologies to her and her family Maybe she found out about it and then had to step down I mean, you know Oh, I see what you're saying I see what you're saying I don't know Mary. Apologies to her and her family. Maybe she found out about it and they had to step down. Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't know. Should we go with the beheaded one? Yeah. You want to go with Lady Jane Grey? Yeah, we'll go with Lady Jane Grey. Lock it in. That's correct. Yay!

What did she do? Oh, probably nothing. We'll circle back. Probably gave an opinion. Whoa, whoa, whoa! Get the axe out! Number seven. Speaking of horror, what, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Get the axe out. All right. Okay. Number seven.

Speaking of horror, what is the name of the hotel in the American horror movie Psycho from 1960? Is it the Stanley Hotel, the Bates Hotel, or the Overlook Hotel? It's the Bates, isn't it? That is correct, Jono. Good on you, sister. Nice. Okay.

Okay. I think you guys can get this one. Which reality TV show did Donald Trump host before becoming president? That is correct. Love Island. I reckon you can get this one too. Which musical film features Anna Kendrick performing the song Cups? Pitch Perfect.

Jeez, I feel like we had some real toughies to begin with. Oh, this is our sweet spot. You are now on question number 10. Okay, hold on. Let's get the dramatic music here. toughies to begin with. Oh, isn't that a sweet spot? You are now on question number 10. Oh! Okay, hold on. Let's get the dramatic music here. I'll add any help. Yum.

Here we go. Question number 10. We've been here before. You have been here before. I feel like you could... I don't know. No, I shouldn't say anything. No facials from you.

Yeah, no facials. You can't put us In any direction Okay Which novel Begins with the line Call me Ishmael Is it

The Old Man and the Sea Moby Dick Or The Catcher in the Rye Call me Ishmael I feel like it's Moby Dick I do I don't know what I've never read Moby Dick

Why do you feel like It's Moby Dick The last book I read Was The Witches By Roald Dahl When I was about Nine years old You should probably

Read some more books There's some great ones out there So why are we trusting you With this then I feel like it's Moby Dick I don't know Just something in my loins Feel it in your jellies

Alright Moby Dick You lock that in That is correct We got 10 You and Wes say You and Wes say Friendship's a crime It's a surprising We got 10. USA. USA. It's a surprising landslide victory, isn't it? Who would have picked it?

Wow. There were like six nearly impossible questions we navigated through there. I hope you enjoyed playing along with us on your way to work or school, wherever you're heading this morning. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Some 50 days until Christmas right now. And, you know, you go to the mall. I had to go to the mall yesterday. It was, you know, because of this game.

Very risky environment to be in. We're trying to avoid listening to Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas. You're playing along as well. If you just joined us the first time you're hearing about it, you can start now. There's no hard and fast rules to this. We're just doing radio stuff, guys, making stuff as we go along, making up stuff. But this is you entering the mall yesterday, Ben,

which is a death sentence, isn't it? Yeah, okay. Here at the mall, Christmas time. Well, not quite Christmas time. It's still November. A very high-risk environment. Got to get in, get out before I hear Mariah Carey. Wish me luck.

Anything? Nothing, nothing. But I was so paranoid that I ended up, environment got to get in get out before uh here mariah carey wish me luck anything nothing nothing but i was so paranoid that i ended up because i had to like spend some time at the mall i was gonna get the stuff i needed but they also wait for it to pick up my daughter from her dance class afterwards normally i'd probably find somewhere in the mall to do some work no i was sat in my car in the car park i was like i can't i can't be here any longer than I need to be because Mariah Carey could play, I could be out of the game. Well, there was someone texting this morning to say that their trick is going to the supermarket and the mall with headphones on.

That's pretty good. Great trick. Watched a Christmas movie last night, ended up going to that and that was risky too. Not knowing what could be around the corner. What was that movie like? It was good. Red One, the new Dwayne. It's got the rock in it, doesn't it? Why are you saying it with a tone of like, what was that movie?

She said it with a tone. She had a tone, didn't she? Dwayne Johnson. I wasn't sure. It's got a big animated bear in it. Yeah, Dwayne Johnson. The bear plays a small part in it, but yeah, Dwayne Johnson's a big role.

Megan. I've asked the wrong person. Action. It's a Christmas movie. It's Dwayne The Rock Johnson, and he got free tickets. You're not getting a bad review. Never. No, it's good. Red One. It's really good movie It's Dwayne The Rock Johnson And he got free tickets You're not getting a bad review No Never

No it's good Red one It's really good I enjoyed it Tegan you are on the radio How are ya? Good how are you? Yeah doing well

You're playing this Mariah Trying to avoid my Mariah Carries all I want For Christmas competition Yeah well I lost Last night actually Unfortunately Well we've had a few victims

Thanks to TikTok. You know, just scrolling and boom, it catches you unawares. Yeah, that's what happened to me. I was scrolling TikTok and I came across this New York Christmas TikTok and Mariah Carey was in the background. Iconic. You're out of the game. Yeah. The good thing is you can listen to that song now, you know,

because it is a great song. You know, you can listen to it by choice Because it is a great song You can listen to it by choice But you're just out of the game We are playing with Maddie and PJ In the afternoon Once all five of us are out We're going to start officially playing the song on the hits A million dollars a year she makes

From just the royalties of that She doesn't need to do anything else No It's wild 60 million total she's made in revenue just from that song Just from royalties of that. She doesn't need to do anything else. No. She can just... You're right. It's wild. $60 million total she's made in revenue just from that song, just from royalties.

Crazy. Laura, you're playing a thing for you called Teagan. Appreciate it. Laura, good morning. We wish you a Kerry Christmas. You've been avoiding the song successfully, Laura?

Oh, sorry. No, I'm getting told don't talk to Laura. No, can talk to Laura. Laura, you're I'm sick. Oh, sorry. No, I'm getting told, don't talk to Laura. No, can talk to Laura. Laura, you're a volatile customer. Is it okay to talk to you,

Laura? Yes, I'm sure it's okay to talk to you. You're not going to go, you're not going to go mad dog on us? Okay, good.

Okay, so you're playing the game, you're still in the game, or you're out? I'm out of the game, of course. Thanks to my husband, of course.

What was he doing uh scrolling tick tock so that culprit is hit again again everyone is yeah a lot of social media right yeah yeah that's what you're concerned about because you you do a lot of scrolling a lot of scrolling and you just don't know there's no warning there's no there should be a trigger warning right carrie's about to play do you want to watch this video? It's probably easier to avoid oxygen, to be honest, at this point in time as we head into December. But someone, you went into a mall yesterday, Ben, just momentarily. Shannon works in retail. Shannon, surely you've, have you heard it yet?

No, I haven't. Oh, good. Are you playing Christmas songs where you work? Oh, no. No, no, no. Not until December. Oh, you hold off until December. Oh good Are you playing Christmas songs Where you work? Oh no No no no Not until December Oh you hold off until December I wouldn't be able to handle it

Okay so At this point You're still in the game Yes Do you work in a mall? Yes yes So you could be walking to work too Yeah

It's a bit dodgy Yeah But I don't think They're playing music at the moment as long as I'm aware. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So I'm pretty safe right now. Well, Kia kia ha. Thoughts are with you.

You're in a high-risk environment there. And thanks for playing along. In fact, you can message us 24487. He's still in the game. He still haven't heard Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas, or you're out of the game. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. Yesterday,

the big US election took place and well, Donald Trump, he's won. Kamala, I think she's phoned him and accepted defeat.

Is that what you did? About 10 o'clock today, I think now officially New Zealand time is when she will probably concede. Make a speech. Tough speech to make.

It was a tough speech. You're like, do I have to? Everyone knows I lost. And tougher people to come along and support. I feel like she'd be very graceful in defeat. Yeah, she will be. She's a true pro. And Trump, last night, he kind of ad-libbed the entire speech,

went on for about, sort of felt like 40 minutes. Good ad-libbing. Non-stop ad-libbing for 40 minutes. It seems like he just pretty much rolls every one of those like 40 minutes. Good ad-libbing. Non-stop ad-libbing for 40 minutes. It seems like he just pretty much rolls every one of those without a speech. He just kind of goes from one thing to another. Says some stuff, probably gets half-saved. It's probably like our radio show.

You get off and you're like, what did I just say over the last couple of hours? Why did I say that? Did I say that? You said people were eating cats and dogs. Did I? Did I? I was just saying stuff.

He won. They thought it was going to be close. It really wasn't close. He won, so there you go. He thanks Melania as well. I want to also thank my beautiful wife, Melania, First Lady, who has the number one best-selling book in the country. Number one best-selling book in the country at the moment.

Is she? Yeah, he's proud of her. Baron, their son, was there as moment. He's proud of her. Baron, their son was there as well. He's six foot nine. Because he towers over Trump and Trump is like by 190 something. He's 63 or something. He's taller.

He's so tall. He's really tall. Have you ever seen little Baron smile? Have you ever seen him smile? He doesn't need to smile for you. Yeah, nerve wracking experience. And need to smile for you yeah nerve wracking experience and then he smiles

and be like what's he smiling at what's the thing you know everything he does will be analysed yeah scrutinised so they've done a good job

of keeping him out of the limelight haven't they and Susie he kept Trump kept trying to pull this lady named Susie up on stage

who has since found out was basically the big director of his campaign so probably played the role of getting him there but Susie she was not having it she was like you know one of those campaign, so probably played the role of getting him there. But Susie, she was not having it. She was like, you know, one of those wedding speeches,

like, hey, you come up and say some stuff, and everyone at the table was like, oh, no. I've been with plenty of times with Jono. You probably have as well. Jono gets someone up. You come up. You come up and have a look. Or even on the telephone, you're like, tell me your life story. We had one with Stan Walker's mum, April,

on the TV show where we're filming it and she was in the audience she's lovely she's awesome she's like come on up but we've got little earpieces in our ears we're recording that we're interviewing stan walker though yeah and you're like come on up your mom april and all i could hear was our producer going she's not mic'd we can't hear she's not wearing a microphone jono she's not mic'd and then jono brought her up and there's probably like a 10 minute interview and the whole time she's like, we can't use any of this. She's not mic'd. No one can hear anything.

He just kept going. She's like, no, no, no, no, no. It was a good interview with April. It was. She's great. One of the greats. Take your word for it. You'll never be able to hear it. Wasn't mic'd apparently. No one was telling me. He ignored the earpiece.

Pulled the earpiece out.ubbs probably got one of those. Pulled the earpiece out. But yeah, so Susie, he kept trying to drag this lady Susie up to say some words, and she was just like, no, please, I'll sit back here. But here he was. Appreciation for Susie and the job you did. Susie, come Susie, come here. Come here, Susie.

Susie likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you. Susie likes to stay in the background. She's not in the background. Thank you, Susie. Look at her. I've never seen her be shy before. Susie. Susie.

Susie. Susie. Susie's like, please stop talking to me, please. So what we want to do right now, and hey, this may die. This may die. But let's give a Susie a chance to say some words. Shall we? Susie last night didn't want to say any words.

So are you a Susie? All right. Have you got some words that you'd like to say? It can be complete. It doesn't have to be with the election, obviously. No, just anything. Anything on your mind. Susie's.

Come on, Susie. You just need a Susie. Come on. Come, Susie. Come. Susie. Susie. Can we get a Susie's Come on Susie You just need a Susie Come Susie Come Susie Susie Can we get a Susie on They can say whatever

Come here Susie The radio stations Is Susie's next We'll take multiple Susies Yeah Multiple Susies Jeez I'll take one April if you're listening

Stan Walker's mum Will take you The hits The Jono and Ben podcast On stage after Donald Trump Celebrated what looked like A victory for him, he tried to bring up Susie, who's his campaign manager, I think.

Appreciation for Susie and the job you did. Susie. Come, Susie. Come here. Come here, Susie. Susie likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you. Susie likes to stay in the background. She's not in the background.

Thank you, Susie. Look at her. She's not in the background. Thank you, Susie. Look at her. She's shy. I've never seen her be shy before. Susie. Susie. Susie. Susie.

Susie. So we thought we should get some Susies on and show our appreciation for what they're doing and the job they're doing. Give them a chance to speak if they want to speak. Susie, good morning. Good morning. We've got a Susie. You work in retail, Susie, we understand. Good morning. We've got a Susie. You work in retail, Susie, we understand.

I do, I do. And I'm not normally a shy Susie either. You'll get up and say some words, Susie. I would have totally got up on stage. Is it too late? No, the stage is yours now. Hit it, Susie. What would you like to say?

Just been a busy two weeks, actually. Retail, getting ready for Christmas and opening new stores and, you know, getting, yeah, getting ready for a busy season. Jeez, I imagine this time of year you're not having a day off. Oh, no, no. Actually, someone asked me that today. They said, oh, I'm so excited for a break over Christmas. I said, yeah, I work in retail.

That won't happen. And then Boxing Day. Boxing Day is a big sale. a break over Christmas. I said, yeah, I work in retail. That won't happen. And then Boxing Day. We work double. Boxing Day is a big sale. You know, Christmas. And it's like, now we have a bigger sale. Even before that, Black Friday. Yeah.

Then Christmas. Oh, Susie. You guys really made a rod for your own back with the old Boxing Day sales and the Black Friday stuff, didn't you? We did, yeah. It's not for you guys, though. We do it for the customers. How big is Black Friday in New Zealand now?

Huge. I actually think it'll take over Boxing Day one year. It's getting close. I do more shopping Black Friday than I do Boxing Day because it's before Christmas. Excuse my ignorance. What day is it? It's something February this year.

November 28th. Oh, right. It's Friday after Thanksgiving. Gotcha. But we don't really know where Thanksgivingth. Oh, right. Okay, you did November. It's Friday after Thanksgiving. Ah, gotcha. But we don't really know where Thanksgiving is. Oh, well, Susie. Susie. Susie.

Oh, Susie. Oh, well, thanks so much, Susie, for stepping up to the mic and talking to us today. We appreciate it. Have a great day, Susie. Have a great day. Yeah, all the best, Susie. Have we got another Susie on the phone? An actual Susie. Oh, it's nice. You tracked me down. It's nice to be all the best, Susie. Have we got another Susie on the phone? An actual Susie.

You tracked me down. It's nice to be talking to an actual Susie. Susie, come Susie, Sus Susie. What do you want to say, Susie? About the job you do. What job do you do, Susie? I look after lovely elderly people. Oh, Susie.

What an honourable job. Yeah, and who would you like to thank? I'd just probably like to thank all 300 of our residents. Oh, wow. So what is the best part of the job? What's the best part of the job? Probably drinking cups of tea and having chocolate. That's delightful.

Does that work? Yeah, yeah, it does work. Thank you. Thank you, Susie. And I appreciate your words. Yep, no, all good. And I think US needs an IQ test today. And we're going to send you off to Gladiator, new movie.

Yeah, Gladiator, the second one. Thank you, guys.