Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL: We Caught Up With Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

We spoke to her about the current restrictions, when she thinks all kids will go back to school, and what will happen if by November 29th, we aren't at 90% fully vaccinated. On another note, Ben isn't... happy with one of the contestants on Celebrity Treasure Island, and the reason why involves his wife! Finally, are our phones really listening to us, and then feeding us ads based on what we're saying? We spoke to Martin Cocker from Netsafe to see whether this is the case!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Jono and Ben, new to your mornings. Friends of Skinny, New Zealand's most recommended telco. Happy, happy, happy, oh, oh. Just when you thought you couldn't get enough of Jono and Ben, you can have them anywhere, anytime. Welcome to the Jono and Ben podcast. Hi, guys. It's the 3rd of November. It's a Wednesday. And you're really on the downside, aren't you,
Starting point is 00:00:23 once you hit November and the structure of the Gregorian calendar, Ben Boyce? Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if it is the case this year, because I know that's always been your much-heralded thing of going, you can get to November, it's the slides of Christmas, but I feel like because of lockdown, it might have changed the game. Like, you think there's businesses, horribly, that haven't been running for a while that may be open from next week. They'll be like, let's get in there, let's
Starting point is 00:00:47 pick that, you know, like it may not be the slide. Just a note for the jury there, Ben, to show the enthusiasm of the businesses, clapped his hands, moved them back and forth as if it was like, let's go guys. Oh, they'll be desperate to open. So I was thinking maybe it will be hopefully rejuvenated November
Starting point is 00:01:03 December. What's the first place slash outlet you would like to go and visit? I have my opinions, but you can. Visit my hair? Getting a haircut? I don't know. I'd just like to see what you think. I would actually like to get a haircut. I had to take drastic measures into my, well, I was going to say my own hands,
Starting point is 00:01:20 but it was my children's hands to get my hair cut. So, yeah, that's definitely a place I'd like to go to. Maybe there's a market for the kids' hairdressers. You walk and you don't know what you're going to get. And you walk out like a butchered up garden. You're like, what was that? But, yeah, that could be a lot of fun. That could be something we could start up.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Do they give hairdresser ban to the children? A little bit. A little bit. Or is it more like, oh, oh. Yeah. One of them was a little bit nervous about doing it more like, oh, oh. Yeah. One of them was a little bit nervous about doing it, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:47 but they enjoyed it. You know, it was like, oh, you know, what's the worst thing that can happen? What's the worst thing?
Starting point is 00:01:52 I mean, you've got the huge advantage of your hair being able to grow back. Yeah, well, I'm just trying to hold on to it for now,
Starting point is 00:01:58 but, you know, so, yeah. What's the first place you want to go visit when things, you can? I'd love to go, I'd love to go I'd love to go
Starting point is 00:02:05 out to like a pub you know have a meal or have a drink that would be fun really missing doing that you know I don't know
Starting point is 00:02:13 I don't know I haven't really thought about it to be honest but I'm definitely going to go out I haven't been to the gym in a long time
Starting point is 00:02:20 you know but work out at home yeah you can tell we're talking behind your back yeah work out at home but you know are gyms open from next
Starting point is 00:02:26 week, are they? No, no, they're not. Well, they are outside of Auckland, I think, but not in Auckland. Yeah. Anyway, this is just very Auckland-sedge. I do wonder if those that are outside of these level restrictions, well, you know, in level two, if they get sick of everyone else banging on about it. Probably.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. Probably. Well, we can see. Well, maybe you can message us. Yeah, let's stop. Let's stop now. No more talk of it. We'll just be like the government. We won't report the numbers. It's folks on Good News.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Good News. Yeah, the Good News show. Oh, it looks like it's going to be pretty good weather this Friday. Oh, that's great. That's great. Yeah. Yeah, great. Weather's good.
Starting point is 00:02:58 My cousin got engaged. Oh, awesome. All Blacks playing in Italy. It'll be fun. It'll be great. Smokescreen. Smokescreen. Hey, speaking of which, I just said we were going to ignore it,
Starting point is 00:03:08 but we do have about six and a half minutes of us interviewing the Prime Minister this morning. Put some questions to her, though, didn't we? Boy, oh boy. She will, I doubt she'll be coming back on the show after that roasting. Oh, yeah, so much. I don't know if I could be a roaster, an interview roaster. Could you? Could you do a Hosking job?
Starting point is 00:03:24 No, not to that extent. No, you couldn Could you? Could you do a husking job? No, not to that extent. No, you couldn't. You couldn't do a husking job. Not to that extent. Because you'd hang up and, oh, your last time you came on this show, and you'd be like, oh, I shouldn't have done it, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I was actually thinking that the other day. I was thinking that, you know, and probably the thing about our show, that if we talk to someone in a politician, we get serious for a second. You know, we ask a question. We're like, oh, that was a good question. And then they answer, and we go, oh, was good you know that was good we just take it for face value someone else like a journalist would be going well hang on a second that's a load of shit yeah like and not to say anything said today was a load of crap way you know but
Starting point is 00:03:56 but you know but i wonder that's the thing you know we've asked that question they've answered it and then we move on to the next question you're right yeah whereas a lot of the other great journalists out there, we're not journalists. They'll go, but hold on, you said two and a half days. Yeah, but what about the people that that affects? And you're like, oh, you know, that's weird. I wouldn't want questions if I was the Prime Minister,
Starting point is 00:04:14 you know, at the press conference. Well, you can hear our softly, softy, light dusting of the Prime Minister. We ask a question, she answers. We take it as gospel and move on to the next question. You can hear that in the podcast today. New Zealand's breakfast. This is Jono and Ben on The Hits. It is The Hits. Welcome along to the show. Wednesday morning, Jono and Ben with you. Just gone six o'clock.
Starting point is 00:04:38 How's everyone this morning, all right? Going all right. How are you? Feeling like a million dollars. Literally, I won the work sweepstake yesterday for the Melbourne Cup. So I couldn't be happier. I'm on cloud nine. I got first and second. I know. I saw this email go around and I was like, well, how's the admin work on this thing?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Because no one's in the office right now. So I was one of those ones that was like, eh. But you went, OK, I'm in. I'm in. But to be fair, I didn't even put money in. So what have you won? I don't know. Whatever I won. I don't know. Whatever I won.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I don't know. If people have got to put money in later, no one's got to put money in later. No one's got to. You're the only one that will put money in later because you know it's coming to you. To be honest, that's the only reason why I entered the sweepstake. I was like, I'm never going to have to pay this money. Yeah. Because I knew the exact situation we were all in best.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So how did you get first and second? Well, because, you know, there's only a couple of people in the speech today. Well, congratulations on nothing. So somebody allocated you horses that won, but they didn't actually mean anything. Well done. The only time I win is when I actually receive zero prize for it. It feels good, though. So welcome to the show
Starting point is 00:05:45 A show of winners today Oh actually we have got $5,000 that you could win today on the show Not you Jono Hard money You listening right now Now if you want to win that money There's a game we play at 7.45 5 words 5k
Starting point is 00:05:56 And we put the words each day this week Up on our Instagram at the Hits Breakfast And our Facebook as well And if you want to go now, you get a wee advantage. You get to formulate a game plan ahead of the game. And Jacinda Ardern, she's our Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And we're going to be putting her through the roaster. Get my George Foreman grill ready. Was that roasting or was that more of a... It was sort of a slow cooker situation, wasn't it? It was.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So we're going to put her through the slow cooker, are we? Chuck her on in the morning before we leave for work. Get home at five. So not really a roasting. More of a slow sort of... She could probably opt out of it any time. She could turn it off.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But it'll be nice and tender. I don't know what this analogy means, but she's joining us after eight o'clock. And as the hits, you've got Jono, Ben and some Benny to kickstart your Wednesday. Morning. This show contains traces of Jono and Ben. The hits with Jono and Ben for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Ben, now producer Juliette, devastating news. Oh, God. You're a big fan of avocados. Oh, yes. Like every day without a word of a lie. She couldn't be more of a stereotype of a 23-year-old if she tried. Yeah, I do. They are my favourite food. Like every day you a word of a lie. She couldn't be more of a stereotype of a 23-year-old if she tried. Yeah, I do. They are my favorite food.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Like every day you have it, right? Yeah, on toast. Okay, well, they're delicious. We all agree with that. But they have an enormous carbon footprint. Really? Yeah, like each avocado, according to this, requires 320 liters of water each to grow.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Are you kidding? And they're in such global demand, they're becoming unaffordable for some areas they're grown in. One person, an Irish restauranteur, calls them the blood diamonds of Mexico. Avocados. Really? Because of how much...
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, that's so conflicting. I know. Are people dying over avocados in Mexico? Well, no, but they're basically... No. Is he saying blood diamonds? Yeah. Because that references...
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah. I don't think they're dying for it, but they're having a devastating environmental impact. Oh, that's so annoying. Oh, that's so annoying. Don't pretend you care. It's not going to stop you. It's not really going to stop me.
Starting point is 00:07:55 What they're doing overseas now, they're trying to come up with ways of making guacamole without avocados. How the hell do you do that? With peas? How do you make a meat patty that's not meat, though? Yeah, I know. That's true. Frozen peas is one.
Starting point is 00:08:09 There's a guy who's a TikTok star who came up with one with frozen peas. There's another one made with courgette and pumpkin seed paste. That sounds bleak. Another one with artichokes. Another one with sort of green chilli and lime and coriander with some beans as well. So they're all alternative. None of them sound quite as good though, do they? No, no.
Starting point is 00:08:28 There's a reason why guacamole is guacamole because it's made of avocados, you know? I can't go replacing them. Do you know my father-in-law, he was in the produce game for many, many years, John Long. And they came up with an invention and it didn't quite take off, but it should have. It was kind of a pre-packaged, because you know how avocado is seasonal?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yes. I think they're available all year round now. They're just very in price. But there was a time there where they were definitely seasonal. It was like a pre-packaged avo mashed avo. Smashed avo in the sense that you could buy. And it was well ahead of its time. Didn't quite take off that time. So all year
Starting point is 00:09:06 round you could have avocado available. That's not a bad idea because you can buy guacamole in sort of like tubes and packets and stuff, right? But I've never really gone there. No, it's probably never as good. I haven't gone there either. I would rather just make it fresh. But I imagine it's not as good. Do you know the other thing that he surprised me with with his
Starting point is 00:09:21 produce knowledge is, you know, when we eat an apple that maybe has come from California, for example, or orange, we get a lot of California oranges. Get our peaches out of Georgia as well? We do get our peaches from Georgia as well. That's an extra domestic flight in the States too. Yeah. Sometimes, by the time they're in your mouth and you're crunching away on them Benjamin boys getting a five plus a day, they could be a year old. Really? Yeah. No way no way really oh my gosh well they kept in obviously they're not bad or anything they're not bad no they're kept in refrigerated environments along the way obviously transporting
Starting point is 00:09:55 from there to there yeah could be a year old wow so is this gonna stop you eating avocados now this is probably not because I'm like I'm one person. I won't make a difference. But then, you know. They'll be talking about you at the climate change summit, won't they? Yeah. Greta, mate,
Starting point is 00:10:09 she'll have her eyes on you. She'll row a canoe over here and scold you. It'll take a while for her to get here. The apples from last year in California were right before her.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But she'll get here eventually. It is the hits. You've got Jono and Ben. Scrolling through your feed. Oh, my favouriteo and Ben. Scrolling through your feed. Oh, my favourite part of the day is scrolling through your feed. He puts the bullet into bulletin and he's ready to fire some shots at the news. Ben, over to you. Well, yesterday was a bit of an announcement,
Starting point is 00:10:38 an unscheduled press conference later in the evening because the top of Northland has gone into alert level three as of last night. Not alert level free. Free as yeah. Not free. Three. Three yeah after fears of undetected community transmission of COVID-19. Was the Prime Minister up there yesterday? She was up yeah somewhere up north but apparently not in that region because that was one of the questions they asked Chris Hipkins the politician about., poor Chris Hipkins was trying to have a day off yesterday. He was like, I was meant to have a day off. He would have been getting a roasting from the missus too, eh? She would have been like, Hippo, I haven't seen you in about two years.
Starting point is 00:11:17 There's undetected. The marriage is in tatters, Hippo. This day was going to save it. And he's like, I've got to go. I'll be 10 minutes in and out. I was just at a little press conference. I go, you know, now it's this thing and I'll be right back here. We'll have a lovely generous plant.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And he gets home at about 9 o'clock at night with a bunch of flowers. Yeah, so it's day 70-odd. I've lost count in Auckland right now of lockdown. And Hilary Barry last night on 7 Sharp, well, she definitely hasn't lost count. And she's fired up about it. Everyone outside of Auckland and Waikato is going, you know, has it really been 76 days? Yes, it has!
Starting point is 00:11:51 A film about a fearless New Zealand photographer is about to hit the big screen. We're not losing it. Not at all. But she pulled it back beautifully too. That's Cosmo Professional Barry. She can have an outlash and then just, you know, that's Cosmo.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Film Professional is a beautiful turn. It's a great gear change, isn't it? Yeah. And in the Auckland region, because we're trying to get to that magical 90% through the three THBs, just under 4,000 vaccines to go in counties, Manukau, before we get to 90% in all three. So not too far away now. 4,000?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah, just under. 3,000, yeah, before that gets to the first jab of 90%. And then, you know, we're quite far along with the second one. So it's... 4,000? Don't try and say it's not... Oh, yeah, a couple of years. 4,000.
Starting point is 00:12:38 4,000. 3,951 is what it said. But anyway. Yeah, apparently it's not long. Apparently it's not long. Come on, New Zealand. Any day now. Any day. And the now, any day.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And the Melbourne Cup was yesterday, and Kiwi Horse, very elegant, won the Melbourne Cup. I know, because I won the sweepstakes with no actual money involved. It was a massive ball over, and what I loved last night, I was flicking around the radio stations, and I listened to a bit of Newstalk ZB, where they had the race on, and they had it at the end of the race, and they went to Raylene Ramsey, who does a great job reading the news up there, But you could tell that she was a little miffed that her horse hadn't come in.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Have a listen. And now the greatest of them all, the Melbourne Cup. Very elegant wins by three and a half incentivised Spanish Mission floating artist, Agap the Chosen One. Oh, wow. My horse got fourth. Okay, let's just remind you, the winners of the Melbourne Cup. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I've lost a lot on that race. There goes the kids. There goes the house. It was a lovely moment. Actually, the Hits Drive Show were doing something pretty cool yesterday with Stace, Mark and Anika. I saw this on social media. To come up with your name for a racehorse,
Starting point is 00:13:43 last thing you ate and then the street you grew up in. Apparently, that's up with your name for a racehorse, last thing you ate and then the street you grew up in. Apparently that's your racehorse name. So the last thing I ate was this morning, I guess Musely and I live in High Street. So Musely High would be my name. Musely High, that's a great horse name. What would you be, Ju? I would be Risotto Bongard.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Oh yeah, because you don't eat breakfast until afterwards. No, yeah, I haven't had any food this morning. Yeah, what about you? What is it, so the last thing you ate in your street? In the street you grew up in. In the street you grew up in. Up and go Ashby. Yeah, up and go Ashby sounds like a good get up and go horse, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, you back up and go Ashby. Up and go. And that is scrolling through your feed this morning. It is the hits. You've got Jono and Ben. It is the hits. Jono and Beno and Ben. It is the hits. Jono and Ben. And right now, I'm very excited about this, Jono, because I get excited
Starting point is 00:14:29 I get to talk cricket on the hits because often you don't let me talk cricket on the hits. No. Ben Boyce is a huge fan of domestic cricket. It's something that I've been trying to hide from the public. We try and lock it away in the closet so it doesn't get too much airtime. But I'm giving you these three minutes. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And joining us right now, ANZ ambassador in Whitefern, Susie Bates. She's here to talk about the ICC Women's Cricket World Cup and plenty more. How are you going, Susie? Yeah, good morning, guys. This is a dream come true for my friend Ben, Susie. Unfortunately for you, you strapped yourself in for a cricket punishing. She'll be like, can I? I've only got three minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:06 You can hang on whenever you want, Susie. I'm sure Susie likes talking about cricket. That's what we're talking about. I'm excited. You must be excited. The ICC Women's World Cup coming to New Zealand next year. It's been a bit of a long time waiting.
Starting point is 00:15:21 It got postponed because of COVID last year, but fingers crossed it sounds like we're moving forward and it's going to happen next March, April. So, yeah, first ever Women's World Cup that I've played in and the first since 2000 that's been on New Zealand soil, which we actually won, which is exciting. Oh, incredible. And it'll bring so much to the country as well.
Starting point is 00:15:41 No doubt played all over Aotearoa, Susie. Yep. I think there's six cities, so starting in my hometown of Dunedin, so they'll get some games there, and then up to Christchurch, Wellington, Tauranga, Hamilton and Auckland, so all over the country, and yeah, hoping to just get some fans into the grounds, and hopefully families can enjoy a day out at the cricket. Pretty amazing supporters of New Zealand Cricket ANZ.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And the ad on TV, I don't know if you've seen that one at the moment, it gets me every time with the dad who supports India. Oh, and then he buys a new shirt. Oh, it's an emotional ad. I mean, they are great supporters. I mean, wouldn't have teams doing so well without the support of people like the ANZ. Yeah, they've been huge supporters. And I remember the 2015 World Cup with the dream big New Zealand
Starting point is 00:16:27 with Brenda McCullum, and that gave you goosebumps. And now it just makes sense to carry on that support with the White Ferns playing in the Home World Cup. So, yeah, they've been a huge supporter of the Black Cats and the White Ferns. Does the ANZ support you with your mortgage too, Susie? Give you some competitive rates, maybe? Yeah, yeah, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Hopefully after this they will. Yeah, I tell you, we're giving them a good bloody plug. Yeah, we are. Jesus, I want a few percent knocked off my mortgage after this. Yeah, we'll see what we can do. Well, we have got some tickets to give away as well, but I wanted to do them in a different way here right now, Susie. We've got Susie Bates' place for the White Ferns as well.
Starting point is 00:17:04 So Jono gets to is based, Jono gets to win the tickets for us to give away. So we're going to start with six tickets, but every question that you get wrong, Jono, I'm going to take away a couple of tickets. Are they all cricket-based questions? They're all questions about Susie. Susie Bates is my favourite. Yeah, yeah. Dunedin cricketer.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I'm going to take his computer away from him. Okay, so Susie Bates has got a highest T20 score of what, Jono? So this was over 20 over game. Did you get out during this game, Susie? No. So you played all 20 of the
Starting point is 00:17:35 overs? From memory, yes. From memory. Okay, I reckon what would you be averaging for? I'd say 200. Oh, 200? Geez, I don't think he wants to score to 200. That'd be a dream. Okay, I'm going to dial it back. And I'm going to say 80.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I know it was against South Africa. It was 120-something. No, I got that wrong. 124. Sorry for overshooting the mark with the 200, Susie. Yeah, it doesn't quite sound as impressive now. That's all firing stuff. Okay, two tickets have gone.
Starting point is 00:18:06 We've got a couple more tickets though, Jono. Hold on, am I playing Susie Bates in a game about herself? Well, no, she's just helping with the answers. Oh, okay. She knows the answers. The odds are stacked. Hopefully I'll be at the game. I won't need any tickets.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Okay, next question, Jono. Susie, what age was Susie when she first represented Otago in the provincial competition? Loved domestic cricket. From memory, I think you were about 14 when you had the time, Jono. Susie, what age was Susie when she first represented Otago in the provincial competition? Love domestic cricket. From memory, I think you were about 14 when you were at the time, Susie. Oh, you've got it. I was 14 or 15. I was still at school. You were very young.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't even... It says age 15. Age 15, so I'll give you that one. The final question, so you've kept two tickets for us to give away. Susie represented New Zealand in what other sport and went to the Olympics? Hmm. Susie, Susie, Susie. I'm not very fast, but it wasn't athletics.
Starting point is 00:18:55 It wasn't athletics. Oh, jeez. What was it, Susie? Archery. It was basketball. Oh. Well, Susie, aren't you bloody overachieving? Representing New Zealand in two sports.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I've represented New Zealand in nothing. Well, congratulations on having the World Cup come to New Zealand. It's going to be a wonderful event, something we can all look forward to after this shit pit we're navigating through at the moment. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And, yeah, fingers crossed we can get people along
Starting point is 00:19:23 and they can enjoy some outdoor time at the cricket. Yeah, that's awesome. It's going to be awesome. If people want more details, they can go to anz.co.nz slash World Cup. Susie, it was so nice to finally talk to you, talk some cricket on the hits for a change. Can't wait to watch the Cricket World Cup next year. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Do you know the fatal mistake you made now is here's your number. He's going to be texting you about cricket nonstop. Watch the game, you lot. I need to get the word out there so I can answer any questions. now is here's your number. He's going to be texting you about cricket non-stop. I need to get the word out there so I can answer any questions. He'll keep following. You've made a mistake. Thanks, Susie. I'm just a man
Starting point is 00:20:06 I do what I can Don't put the blame on me Don't put your blame on me So Rag and Bone Man He's not responsible Whatever you want to put the blame on Maybe he should take some responsibility He's one of those people
Starting point is 00:20:21 You're like he's not He doesn't look like what you think he would look like Really? Have you googled Rag and Bone Man? He's like of those people you're like, he's not, he doesn't look like what you think he would look like. Really? Have you Googled Reagan Bowman? Yeah. He's like a giant bogan. Yeah. Isn't he?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Amazing voice. Amazing voice. Oh, wow. Yeah. Isn't he? He's not what you think he would look like. I don't know. Maybe that's stereotyping, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah, it probably is. A little bit. That's what I love doing. I love stereotyping. Okay, let's do some news and beeps. Kia ora. I'm Rachel Jackson jackson lees and this is the news yeah producer juliet she's got her finger on the pulse and the finger on the
Starting point is 00:20:49 beep machine julia what are the formatics of this game i go around find some uh quirky news headlines the amount of websites i trawl through to find some ones that are worthy of this show a lot um but i beep out the words and you guys have to guess what the original headline is now the front foot you know these are the stories that you mike have to guess what the original headline is. Now to front foot it, you know, these are the stories that your Mike McRoberts, your Simon Dallows, your Wendy Petries, they wouldn't touch with their bulletin. They wouldn't put their bulletin anywhere near these stories.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Or maybe the quirky thing right at the end. Right at the end, they're like, oh Dallow, we've got three minutes of filler time. This is one of those, but yeah right, most days no. Okay, the first news story for you this morning. Someone beat Mark Zuckerberg to the punch when... I'm going to say someone beat Mark Zuckerberg to the punch when they punched a small, innocent child in the face
Starting point is 00:21:31 before Mark Zuckerberg wanted to. Oh, wow. Evil, evil. I'm going to say making Squid Game memes for Facebook. They're like, damn it, I should have thought of that first. Someone beat Mark Zuckerberg to the punch when trademarking the name Meta. So two men operating a computer PC company filed for the trademark back in August,
Starting point is 00:21:49 but it's been the name of their company for over a year, and they said that they'll drop the trademark if Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook pay them $20 million. Woo! So... Do you know a friend of ours, Michael, he would go around doing that. So, for example, he would go around doing that. So, for example, he worked in the industry. So when a new radio show started up in Aussie, he would buy the domain name of that show.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I think Rove. Remember Rove McManus? So he bought the Rove dot whatever. He was with some radio station. So he bought the web domain. And then obviously at some point the radio station's like, oh, we should start up a website for this or a Facebook page or whatever. Oh, my goodness. And then this guy owns it all.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He's like, yeah, you can have it, but you can pay me for it. That is so smart. And he did the same with a gold mine in Western Australia or something. Yeah, and they were like, mate, we need this website. We need people to be able to get it. He's like, yeah, sure, you just pay me. He made a fortune from it. That is so smart. Really, that's very smart.
Starting point is 00:22:43 $20 million is probably not a lot for Facebook or Mark Zuckerberg, but it's epic for that company, that PC company, that just ordinary one that can make money from that. The next news story, school giving free s*** to high-flying students with perfect attendance. I'm going to say free weed because they are high and they're flying. I was wondering if any of you would make a bet. It's controversial, so I'm going to get weed.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I was going to go one higher and say free heroin. They're flying so uh i was wondering if it's controversial so yeah maybe i was gonna go one higher and say free heroin they're flying even higher school giving free helicopter rides to high flying students with perfect attendance this is well off happening in the uk yes a more appropriate version um of being high but they set up um a 100 attendance club and this club includes hot dog stands for those students they get free pass to skip the tuck shop line to get to the front and the best of them all include helicopter rides but this is the problem i know we're forced like you turn up every day no matter if you're sick or not and this is how viruses spread oh to be fair to counter that they did have a they also set up a 97% attendance club
Starting point is 00:23:47 for people who attend all days except for maybe when they're sick or when they can't attend school. So to get around that so we don't spread viruses. Yeah, there we go. Very smart, very smart. I thought the greatest prize would be education. Yeah, true. What prize do you put on that, Ben?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Quite a lot sometimes. And the final news story. Video shows Tom Hanks in Santa Monica. I'm going to say Tom Hanks is a wonderful beach in Santa Monica so I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:24:11 he's looking for Wilson. He's still like he's like walking along the beach hoping it'll wash ashore. Yep. He's such a lovable character Tom Hanks
Starting point is 00:24:18 I'm just going to say Tom Hanks doing something truly adorable in Santa Monica. Video shows Tom Hanks crashing couple's wedding in Santa Monica. So there were two brides that were getting married on Santa Monica Beach when Tom Hanks walked up for a chat.
Starting point is 00:24:33 These newlyweds, they actually went on the news and talked a little bit about it. We were wrapping everything up. We were getting ready to go take our pictures. And in walks a face that we didn't really recognise at first. And then once he opened his mouth and started talking, you knew immediately it was Tom Hanks. take our pictures and in walks a face that like we didn't really recognize at first and then like once he opened his mouth and started talking you knew immediately it was tom hanks it's like right wow this really is tom hanks walking up and he stuck around for about five minutes took pictures
Starting point is 00:24:53 with them all just said that he'd been admiring the wedding from from far away watching them get married and then walked up and just isn't that the greatest wedding gift you could ever want what a lovely guy i I know. I know. It's odd that he would come up and interrupt a wedding. Yeah. But very nice. My favourite Tom Hanks photo is he's in a diner or something, and there was a guy who had obviously been out all night and gone for a late meal,
Starting point is 00:25:18 and he was kind of passed out on the booth. Have you seen that? Tom Hanks took a selfie with the guy. He was passed out with his head on the table. It's a great shot. We'll put all that to breakfast on our story. That's so good. So good.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And that is the news and beats to you this morning. Spy, the WhatsApp by doco.nz. They may be rich, they may be famous, they may be good looking, but that doesn't stop producer Juliet smearing their good names every morning in Spy. What's happening? So we've got another celebrity COVID-19 diagnosis. It's Jason Momoa this time. He was diagnosed right after a big premiere for the movie
Starting point is 00:25:51 June in London and he said there were heaps of people there it seemed. So whether he got it from someone there or he may have been contagious there, may have passed it on, but he's self-isolating at home and he said he's doing okay but yeah it's gonna i guess become more of the norm really at the moment yeah i know
Starting point is 00:26:09 particularly over season probably here unfortunately as well isn't it well it might get to a stage in a few years time where you're like oh i've got a cold or you know i've got covid it might just be a thing oh we're gonna have a day off we've got covid it might just be run of the mill at the moment it's like especially here in new zealand yeah you're right it is so weird to think oh yeah got COVID just take a couple days off work oh my goodness well I guess the flu probably was like that you know if you look back to the Spanish flu and the history of the flu nowadays we just you know uh depending on where you sit with vaccinations just go and get a flu injection every year yeah yeah try and knock it off which I found interesting is only some years would only be 65% effective.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The flu vaccine. Because they're predicting what the flu virus is going to do every year. True, true. Same thing, I guess, they're doing with COVID vaccines as well. Yeah. Predicting what they're going to do. They're always chasing the virus. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Which mutates. And I tell you what it lies mutating in, Ben. The unvaccinated. Very true. And Mariah Carey has declared that Halloween is over and Christmas has begun. She released a video
Starting point is 00:27:14 on her social media. Quite well done. She kind of sneaks into her house with a big Christmas looking baton and smashes a bunch of pumpkins basically declaring Halloween is over. Christmas is coming. She's also going to be releasing a new Christmas song with Khalid called Fall in Love at Christmas. So that will hopefully be a banger for us all to enjoy this year.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Oh, jeez, of course Mariah's bloody getting on the Christmas train early. I'm surprised Boo Blade hasn't started a campaign as well. I saw a couple of weeks ago, he's got two new songs out for Christmas. He's got like a... How many songs can he sing about Christmas? Yeah, one's a new one and one's like he's done a video of Let It Snow or something for Christmas as well. Oh, my goodness. Has he not sung Let It Snow before? Oh, maybe he has.
Starting point is 00:27:52 He's done a video of it, mate, yeah. There's always more you can do with Christmas. I love the meme that comes out every year around October being like, Michael Bublé is defrosting as we speak. Oh, yes, he is Mr. Christmas, old Bublé. It is so good. Does he sing other songs? Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He does a lot of lounging stuff. He does Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin sort of stuff as well, as well as his own original. He's got it up. Wonderful back catalogue. I've got some Bublé songs that come up on my shuffle from time to time when I put up on a party, the non-Christmas stuff. You don't mind a Frank Sinatra or a Bublé, do you?
Starting point is 00:28:23 No, I don't mind. Your dad grew you up on a steady diet of that, didn't he? He did, so I kind of got a soft spot for that. It's good music to appreciate, I reckon. I kind of love the fact that they're always rolling the suit and they're always sharply dressed. I like crooning because it's the laziest form of singing.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Frank Sinatra, a legendary singer, he was quite impatient as well. He'd often do one take, just one take of some of his iconic songs, but then he couldn't listen to it back later because he'd be like, even though it sounds amazing to most people, he was like, I should have probably given that a second take. I don't know why he didn't.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He dipped his toes, the famous story about Frank Sinatra, he dipped his toes into acting. He was in a movie and again, his impatience probably didn't sit well with how long movies take to actually film and produce. He'd be like, you've got one take. So he'd just roll in. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He'd be like, la-di-da-di-da. They're like, well, Frank, you were looking directly in the camera or you'd forgot your lines. You looked down and you read a script. He's like, I don't care. I'm out of here. And so then they had to edit around Frank Sinatra. Oh, that is so annoying.
Starting point is 00:29:19 The Ocean's Eleven, the original was Frank Sinatra and all them. Yeah, that got remade with Brad Pitt and George Clooney and stuff. Wow. Oh, my goodness. That's been an nightmare for the editor. I know. Just give me one more take. I mean, you screwed up the line. At least give us another take. But Sinatra doesn't even have his costume on.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And that is your Spy Update for this hour. For more, you can head to thehits.co.nz. New Zealand's breakfast. This is Jono and Ben on The Hits. Good morning, New Zealand. Just gone seven o'clock here with Jono and Ben on The Hits. Good morning, New Zealand. Just gone seven o'clock here with Jono and Ben on The Hits. Of course, you just heard in the news about the big climate change conference that's going on in Scotland at the moment.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Joe Biden, how did we sleep yesterday? Sleepy, sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe. How did we nap while it was going on by the looks of things? That was boring AF though, doesn't it? I hate it. Yeah, Julia, you'd be sleeping there if you were at the climate change. Yeah, I think I care more about other things, maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Boris Johnson, who's the head of, of course, Britain, he was having a crack at countries and saying we need to do more, particularly New Zealand as well, about the cows and all sorts. And then he's got a private jet waiting for him at the airport. You're like, well, how does this work? I was making this point yesterday, Ben. How did all these world leaders and their entourage get there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 To have it over Zoom. Well, Greta Thunberg, who's a climate change activist, she arrived by train. Poor Greta. I mean, every time she travels, she's like, well, I guess I'm going to have to push myself on a skateboard from London to Italy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 So she hasn't been invited to talk, but she's going over there basically, you know, to talk about how she basically thinks they're full of, you know, crap, basically, what they're saying in there. They're all talking. They're full of methane. Yeah, they're all talking. They're not doing enough action. She even started up a bit of a chant with some crowds outside.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You can shove your climate crisis up your ass. You can shove your climate crisis up your eyes. You can shove your climate crisis up your eyes. Yeah, she's got a lot of people joining in on it. Shove your climate crisis, you can shove your climate. Apologies for the bad, you know, but... Well done, Greta. That's a great chant, too.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I mean, when you're travelling by train, you've got a long time to think of a chant. So that's the advantage of her lifestyle. But it is... What? Why wouldn't they invite Greta? When you think of climate change, all I think of is Greta. The one person you think of is not there talking.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah, you're right. But she's singing some bloody golden chants outside. That's the main thing. Hey, next, we're giving away free fish and chips. It's happening every Thursday and Friday throughout November. Next, we're going to tell you where you can win free fish and chips is happening every Thursday and Friday throughout November next we're going to tell you where you can win free fish and chips for two hours tomorrow
Starting point is 00:31:49 stick around we'll tell you in just a few moments on the hats Jono and Ben's Friday thanks to Heinz Tomato Ketchup yes Heinz Tomato Ketchup thick, rich and absolutely delicious that's what I said about you Ben damn it, he beat me to the chase I was waiting for that
Starting point is 00:32:04 I was going to say it about Juliet and I was waiting for that. I was waiting for it. I was going to say it about Juliette, and I was like, no, that's weird. Thick, rich, and delicious. My Samara Ketchup is sure to upgrade any meal. And throughout the month of November, you can nominate your town or city. And for two hours, every Thursday and Friday,
Starting point is 00:32:19 we'll pick a different place, and we'll pay for free fish and chips. Free fish and chips for two hours. Now, this is going on for a month, every Thursday and Friday for a month, no matter where you are in Aotearoa. This is very exciting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Two hours of free fish and chips. And yesterday we got into quite a heated debate. We did, actually. More heated than the deep fryer in the fish and chip shop. And it was over where the placement of the sauce came with a communal sharing of fish and chips. You like to put the Heinz tomato ketchup all over the top. I like it to look like a bloody massacre that's taken place on top of a pile of potatoes.
Starting point is 00:32:53 So we rang a fish and chip shop in Palmerston North for the final word on where you should put your tomato sauce. On the side or on top? Yeah, what do you reckon? On the side. I'm an on top guy. Are you on the top. Yeah. You're on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Are we still talking about places? Yeah, I think we are. I think we are. Yes, so we sorted that out. We sorted that out, although we still don't agree. But anyway, Heinz Tomato Ketchup hooking you guys up with free fish and chips tomorrow and Friday and throughout November. Where are we going to be tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:33:24 It's a big announcement. Well, yeah, tomorrow we're going to be in Christchurch. So Christchurch is debuting this whole thing, and it's going to be kicking off at the Cashel Street Takeaways. And we're joined right now by Albert from the Cashel Street Takeaways. You're going to be busy tomorrow for lunch, mate? Yeah, yeah, will be. Well, thank you so much for hosting that tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:33:41 That's awesome, and hopefully we can get some people along. I'm sure there will be, because free fish and chips, I mean, who doesn't want that get some people along. I'm sure there will be because free fish and chips. I mean, who doesn't want that? Yeah, can't turn it down. Free food, free fish and chips. Yeah, that's right. Anyone maybe with heart complications? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Okay. Well, let's see. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I do love from the fish and chip shop? And it's an often forgotten item on the menu is your deep fried sausage. Oh, yeah. I love the deep. You do a deep fried sausage,
Starting point is 00:34:05 Albert? Yes, yes, we do. We've got the deep fried sausage and we actually make our own deep fried bedded onion sausages. Oh, that one. It's so good. That one a bit of Heinz
Starting point is 00:34:14 tomato ketchup. Take that. Yeah, I love it so much. It's the deep fried does something that, you know, makes you forget or stop thinking about
Starting point is 00:34:21 what's inside the actual sausage. And it's always got the same flavour from any fish and chip shop, the deep fried sausage. Deep fried sausage on your face. The other thing I wanted to ask you Albert is, you know, often people order like potato fritters and things like that. Often you'd sneak in
Starting point is 00:34:35 you know, it seems to be fish and chip shops would put in an extra one or two. Does that still happen? Yes, yes we do. We actually do quite a lot for what, 80 cents or a dollar or whatever. Yeah, it seems at some point, you know, the industry decided, the market decided that the industry rate when it came to potato fritters is order one, get five.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Get some free, you know, that you never paid for, which is awesome. Albert, well, I tell you what, Christchurch is going to be very happy tomorrow. Cashel Street takeaways, two hours of free fish and chips. It's thanks to Heinz. We're putting it on for you. Don't worry about lunch tomorrow, Canterbury. Yeah, we're paying for it. We're sending down the credit card.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So from 12 o'clock to 2 o'clock tomorrow, it's happening in Christchurch. Whereabouts on Cashel Street can people find you? We're at 341 Cashel Street, which is just on the corner of Cashel and Fitzgerald. Good on you. Thank you, Albert. It's been a lovely pleasure to meet you, my friend. Have a great day. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You too. So Cashel Street Takeaways tomorrow from 12 o'clock. If you're in Christchurch, go along. Free fish and chips. Hundreds of votes for Albert's Cashel Street Takeaways too. And you can do the same. Where do we go, Benjamin Ross, boys? Oh, well, we're going somewhere on Friday as well.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So if you want to nominate your town or city, head to the hitstockcode at NZ. Thanks to Heinz Tomato Ketchup, we could be providing you with free, I still can't believe it's two hours worth of free fish and chips. I know, and it's the greatest cuisine in the history books. You know, when land and sea put their differences aside and said fish shall fornicate with chips.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Broadcasting live and mostly awake. Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast on the hits. Ben, do you know the situation I think you've been in it most people will relate when you're talking to a service provider on the phone a restaurant, cafe, whatever power company, inland revenue
Starting point is 00:36:17 I could keep listing service providers and they then ask you for your cell phone number. Right. When you have to hand over your number is where this should be turned into an Olympic sport because timing is absolutely critical on this. Oh, as they're sort of noting it down. They're noting it down, you're delivering the number.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So it's kind of a blind ballet of sorts where you're having to predict how fast they would be noting down the number. Yeah. I like to be generous. I like to give gaps in between numbers. Yeah. And then sort of try and predict where I'd pick it up again. So I'd go, oh, two, one.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And then I wait for silence. And then sometimes the number receiver doesn't go, yep. Yes. I really appreciate someone to go, uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the noise. It't go Yep Yes, I'd really appreciate someone to go Uh-huh, oh yeah Yeah, just a noise Just something so I go Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:09 So then you know it's time to carry on Proceed with the next three numbers Yeah But yesterday I was in a position where I went 021 Silence So I'm thinking I'm stuck all up in my head
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm like Is she a really slow writer? Yeah Looking for a pen, maybe those moments. And you don't even want to be forceful with your number. No. Because then you get the, hold on, hey, buddy. And you never want the, hold on, hey, buddy.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You're going too fast for me. Hold on a second there. You're like, yeah, sorry, sorry. And you're always apologetic. You're like, oh, sorry. I don't want to rush you. Yeah. I just thought you were, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like I say, I'm a big fan of the vocal indication of, yeah, okay, I've got those first three digits. You can proceed. So yesterday I was in this scenario where I'd given out the first three numbers. Radio silence at the other end of the phone. So I'm left going, well, do I proceed with the next numbers? Or do I hold off until I hear a noise?
Starting point is 00:38:04 And so then I start to go, no, no. And she goes, hold on. And I'm like, I have given you ample amount of time to write down three digits. And then she pulled out a hold on, hold on situation. Hold on, hold on. Don't you just slow down with your number. Who's in a rush, buddy?
Starting point is 00:38:27 What I'd like to do is just try this now in a bit of a social experiment. Can we make this moment any more awkward now? By really spacing it out. Yeah, we're going to go through to a florist here in Wanaka. The Green Room, Shani speaking. Shani, how are you?
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm good, how are you? Yeah, good. Listen, I was after some flowers. I'll just, shall I give you my number first? Hold on, I will just, what was your name? My name's Jonathan, and my number? Jonathan, and your last name? My name's Jonathan And my number? Jonathan, and your last name? It's Prior And
Starting point is 00:39:11 And Sorry, my computer wants to Jonathan 0 021 What was your last name again? Prior
Starting point is 00:39:26 Have you shopped with us before? Prior Have you shopped with us before? I haven't, no So 021 7 0217 Hello
Starting point is 00:39:51 8282 Yes, you can keep going with your cell phone number 6 Yep 4 number? Six. Yep. Four. Yes. Hello. Two. Yes. What's the next number? Hello? 8, 8, 8 Okay, so let's just start again And we'll go 021
Starting point is 00:40:36 Can I jump in here? It's Jono and Ben calling from the Hits radio station Hello No worries Jono was just to see how long it takes to space out a number, how quickly people want it. You gave him so much time.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It was so frustrating to listen to him. We were just having a conversation about how handing over a number can be the most awkward thing. I was just like, the poor guy keeps on forgetting his number. Oh, you've been such a great sport. We don't need the flowers.
Starting point is 00:41:06 We want to see you at a Wild Bean voucher so you can go get some coffees for the office. Yes, we need coffees. I think we need beer as well. Yeah. Okay, now we'll just grab your number off you. We'll do that off you. Do you want me to do the same as you or should I make this work? We'll do that one off you, all right?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Thank you very much for your time. Oh, no worries, have a good day Jono and Ben on the hits, and friends of Skinny Ben and Jono call this show Jono and Ben, breakfast on the hits Now Ben, I know you're a big fan of social media, aren't you? Yeah, I am
Starting point is 00:41:38 Something that you've mentioned off here to me that I'd like you to bring to the table is your wife Amanda who's not traditionally, she's not a big social media person is she Amanda? You either are or you aren't. I know Ben Humphrey, producer Humphrey is like if he didn't have this job he wouldn't have social media. He's from Fairlie.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Imagine what do they think of you when you go back to Fairlie and you're like I've got a TikTok account. What do they say to you there B Humps? He's like don't bring it up. I actually figured I wasn't going to talk about this but yeah my i was talking to you the other day it's about the tiktok situation yeah yeah yeah with amanda yeah so amanda my wife yeah she's not not big on social media hasn't you know hasn't got a lot
Starting point is 00:42:13 of social media accounts but you know guys try to keep that pretty private but she started the kids to me it came to me the other day and was like oh mom started a tiktok account i'm like oh okay tiktok account because she'd given me grief about she's like what oh, mum started a TikTok account. I'm like, oh, okay, a TikTok account. Because she'd given me grief about it. She's like, what are you? Much like you, Jono. She's like, why are you on TikTok? I know, but then. You've no place on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But then we started a Jono and being TikTok. So now I'm like 12 months later, I'm on TikTok. Yeah, I know. So I'm eating my own words. I'm mocked. Jeez, I mocked you for, didn't we get a lot of mockery out of you? Yeah, I know. You and the 14 year old girls dancing
Starting point is 00:42:45 we had some fun anyway i was like to me and i was like what yeah she's i'm not going to post anything i just got it so i could follow some people i'm like oh okay yeah cool i've got a follower here you know this is the first person as your husband this would be the first one that she would follow i'm like who are you following she's uh uh just one person right now and i'm like oh just one person thinking of course that would'm like, oh, just one person. They get, oh, of course, that would be me. You know, why would it not be me? Because you're like, well, there's plenty of other great people you can follow. Well, there is.
Starting point is 00:43:11 But if you're just going to follow one, it would be. You usually start with your family members and that sort of thing. I think they have that when you have your wedding day, when you talk through the vows, isn't it? Yeah. You vow to follow me on TikTok. Yeah, so she's not following me. I'm a bleak follower, so I understand. She's not following you.
Starting point is 00:43:22 No, she's not. She's not. But you know who she's following? Lance Savali, who's great. I love Lance. He's great. But I was like, Lance. Celebrity treasurer.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, he's amazing. He's an amazing dancer, amazing person. No one else but Lance Savali. How does that make you feel as a husband? A little bit insecure. I mean, I want to be Lance Savali, let's be honest. I mean, yeah. We all want to be Lance Savali.
Starting point is 00:43:43 But I'm like, at least follow two. Give me like a sympathy you follow. Like me and Lance Savali, let's be honest. We all want to be Lance Savali. But I'm like, at least follow two, but give me a sympathy you follow. Like me and Lance Savali. Just so I know I'm in the fold somewhere. Lance Savali Ben or something. Lance Savali's living in the bedroom, I'm on the couch. But I'm there. I'm being thought of
Starting point is 00:43:58 while you're with Lance Savali. As a female, Juliette, what does this mean? It means that you probably should be feeling insecure. Yeah, I mean, he's great. Because, yeah, yeah. If it's only you two, it's like she'll scroll to him and be like, oh, yeah, Lance, and then scroll next to him and be Ben Boyce.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Well, you must be asking why Lance Savali, are you? Well, I kind of get it. I mean, you know, I get it. Well, I'd like to know why Lance Savali, and that's why I've had the man on hold listening to this whole thing. Oh, no. Lance Savali. Benny Boy!
Starting point is 00:44:30 Benny Boy! Are you over at Ben's house now, are you, Lance? Ben, I just finished doing the dishes. Is there anything else I need to do around the house? Anything else you want Lance to do while you're there? Oh, he's always tidies up, Lance. He's great. No, Ben, honestly, you've got nothing to worry about, mate.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I follow no one on TikTok. I'm hardly on there. I can barely pick up the dance moves anymore. Oh, so he's saying, don't worry, nothing to be threatened of. But, you know, that's something that a guy who would say there's definitely something to be threatened of would say. I didn't realise you were there. Well, this is a surprise.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Honestly, I thought it was going to go a little bit sour, so I think I'm going to follow you after this. At least someone's following Ben. It's not his wife. Well, Lance, nice to talk to you. Final of Celebrity Treasure Island tonight, though. Oh, my God, bro. Don't ask how, but I did it.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It's been a great show from start to finish, Lance. There's been a lot of games at play. You've been quite tactical, but also appearing to everyone else that you're just coasting through it as well. It's been a smart tactic. Dude, I honestly, like, my first goal was just to not be first off
Starting point is 00:45:39 the island. And now I'm in top three. I'm like, the things that I've done, bro, it's like, it's ruthless. But how I've managed to get away with it, I couldn't even give you the answer. You played the game. You actually have played the game really well. I mean, there was some awkward times,
Starting point is 00:45:56 the sort of final four, like dinner, and it was kind of awkward. It was tense. It was ruthless. Jess was hitting you up. Yeah, Jess obviously wasn't very happy about your last minute sort of switcheroo yeah it's sort of yeah i was in the dog box man i did i was ruthless but at the time i thought it was like the master plan i was like i'm gonna do this and do that and
Starting point is 00:46:18 then boom it just blew up in my face yeah if you didn't see it lance basically with the final few contestants mixed everyone up with people they wouldn't want to necessarily partner up with and basically just lit a bomb and threw it into the team. Is it awkward when the cameras stop rolling after that as well? Does it carry on?
Starting point is 00:46:38 At that moment, bro, it was so awkward. Like, oh man, I couldn't believe it. It became outside of the game at that point. I was like, oh, no, this is like real life right now. But you're one of these guys, and my friend Mark's like it as well, that, you know, I imagine all of your ex-partners, they don't even hate you.
Starting point is 00:46:57 They'll be like, oh, lads. You know, he's such a lovable guy. My wife loves him, and she's like, we met him. So I imagine they forgive you pretty quickly. Oh, I would hope so, honestly. Not the best track record,
Starting point is 00:47:10 but we're pushing forward. Oh, well, that's good luck tonight. We can't wait to watch it. It's been a lot of fun while watching you on the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Thanks guys. Thank you so much. I'm going to need it. Yeah. Good stuff, man. We'll catch up. Oh,
Starting point is 00:47:22 show me around the bins this weekend. That's us. Yeah, all right. No worries. You can come too. Thanks. Thanks, mate. We'll catch up. Show me a round of Ben's this weekend at Barbie, isn't it? That's us! Yeah, alright, no worries. You can come to me. Thanks, guys. Thanks for inviting me. Otherwise, we'll post the videos on TikTok, you can see. Thanks, guys. See you, mate. Five words for 5k on the hits. You're only five words away from a massive payday.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It is our game of word association. We play it every morning on the show. We tell you five words, you tell us the first things that pop into your head. If your five words match with one of ours, all five, you win $5,000. It's our only job is to try and give you $5,000 every morning. I don't know if there's any other aspects to this job, Ben, but I only turn up to give away money every morning. Maybe there's other areas we're not succeeding in at the moment.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But, Holly, we could make you rich this morning in Christchurch. Good morning. Early childhood teacher. Putting the money you rich this morning in Christchurch. Good morning. Early childhood teacher. You're putting the money towards what this morning, Holly, if you win? Yeah, me and my partner are building a house, so we've got a lot of bills to pay for. All right. Now, this is no-strings-attached cash as well.
Starting point is 00:48:23 If you wanted strings attached to the cash, the cash is not up for a relationship. It's a one-nighter. Don't even bother calling it the next morning. Doesn't want to know. So you can have this cash tax free if you match five words and we've given you a huge advantage this week. Posting the words up on the Hits Breakfast Instagram and Facebook.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You can check on the story. Have you got a bit of a plan in your head, Holly? Yeah, I've got a little bit. I haven't had a wee look this morning, so we're good. Okay, we're good. We're good. All right, well, who do you want to send into the soundproof booth, Jono, Ben, or Juliet?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I'm going to go with Jono. Oh, we lost many good men and women inside that soundproof booth. All right. Maybe the next. Okay, so as soon as he makes his way in there and shuts himself off he won't be able to hear anything we have to say and he's in there now
Starting point is 00:49:09 Holly your first word this morning is Timberlake Timberlake uh Justin yeah
Starting point is 00:49:15 seemed like the obvious one to me yeah Margarita is word number two going to go cocktail yeah good
Starting point is 00:49:23 nice we're matching so far in my head. But, hey, we'll see how you go with Jono. Driver is word number three. Driver. Truck. Truck driver. Truck driver.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Pitch. Word number four this morning. Pitch. Pitch. Pitch. I think I'll go baseball. Baseball. Pitch. I think I'll go baseball. Baseball, pitch. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And sparkling is the final word this morning. Sparkling. Sparkling water. Sparkling water. Well, Jono is a fan of sparkling water. Yeah, he is. Oh, good. Yeah, so that one's not,
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm not too sure what his baseball knowledge is like either, but hey, you never know. It might be the first thing that pops into his head as well. Okay, let's go. All right, let's bring out of the soundproof booth, Holly, and we'll see if we can match those five words and win you $5,000. He's back. He's back.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Welcome. Do I have to welcome myself nowadays? No, not really. You've hardly been away, really, to be honest. No one missed me. Okay, Holly, how did you go? Good. I think there's one that I'm not 100% sure about,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but let's hope it matches. All right, let's win you $5,000. The bank of JSB is open. Let's see if we can pull some cash out of it. First word this morning, Timberlake. Justin. Yes, well done. One from five.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Margarita. Pizza. Justin. Yes, well done. One from five. Margarita. Pizza. We need cocktails. Cocktails. Cocktails. For both work. You do have a margarita pizza fact that you love to tell. It's the one thing I'm like jeez, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 If I go before you, I'm going to put that on your gravestone. You love to tell me the margarita pizza fact. What, if you go before you I'm going to put that on your gravestone He'd love to tell me the margarita pizza fact So what, if you go before me? If you go before me You'll put that on your gravestone, thank you That's how much this fact meant to me He'd put it on his own gravestone
Starting point is 00:51:15 You know, Queen Margarita in Italy Back in the day I should find and montage all the times you've ever said this fact Holly doesn't want to hear that now She's disappointed she lost a fight. Holly's like, can I just leave now? Holly, I'm so sorry you didn't win. You have yourself a great day, though, all right?
Starting point is 00:51:31 Okay, thanks, guys. Thanks for playing. Are we going three out of the woods? We can. We can do this, all right? Yeah, let's do it. Let's see how far we got. All right, driver. Uber.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Pitch. Pitch. P-I-T-C-H. Pitch. Perfect. And sparkling. Water. Ah, you got the sparkling water. We said you're a big fan of sparkling pitch. Perfect. And sparkling. Water. Ah, you got the sparkling water.
Starting point is 00:51:47 We said you're a big fan of sparkling water. I do love a soda water. Tell you what, gets me started every morning. Gets this engine running, Holly. Holly's like, can I please leave? You didn't win me cash. I need to get on with my day. Have a great one, Hole.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Hey, actually, you're in Christchurch. Free fish and chips tomorrow at the Cashel Street Fish and Chips Shop, all right? Oh, perfect. That's on us from 12 till 2, thanks to Heinz, all right? Oh, cheers, guys. All the best. Spies next, Jew. Yeah, Chris Pratt is voicing a very famous animal in a new movie that's coming out.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'll fill you in on those details next. Alissa Killers, Mr Brightside, you're on the hits, Jono and Ben Must I say I can do it after this, Ju I was just going to say happy birthday to my daughter Poppy who's nine today Happy birthday Poppy A little sweetheart, so I truly sometimes wonder
Starting point is 00:52:38 if I had any role in any of her She's too sweet, but she's a big deal your birthday at nine Kids love their birthdays It's the best day. Your birthday at nine. Yeah, kids love their birthdays. It's the best day of their whole life. Not so much, eh? You start to lose interest. It's much like the 1pm press conference. The older you get.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But she was like, can you give me a birthday shout out on the radio? And this just warmed the cockles of my commercial radio heart. I'm like, you're nine. How do you even know about a birthday shout-out on a radio? Yeah, true, that's a good point. Yeah, I thought she would want, like,
Starting point is 00:53:08 Charli D'Amelio thrusting her pelvis in a dance for 13 seconds or something. True. I know, there you go, the birthday shout. There's still life in this old dog, yeah. Oh, good. Happy birthday, Pops. So Chris Pratt is voicing Garfield in a new upcoming movie.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Obviously, Garfield was a movie, previously a comic as well, in 2004. And so they're doing another version with Chris voicing it. He was also recently, it was also announced that he was going to be voicing Mario in a Super Mario Brothers film. And the internet is kind of going a little bit crazy over this. One of the headlines was,
Starting point is 00:53:43 Chris Pratt's new career strategy, make the internet angry, because looking at his history of films, a lot of them are animated movies. He was a voice in the Lego movie, Disney, Pixar's Onward, and so everyone's like, oh my gosh, how many animated movies? It's because he can turn up to work in track pants.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. I mean, voicing for a movie star, just a win-win. Yeah, I know. You just have to put on a silly little voice and talk into a microphone. Yeah, and pretend you care about Garfield when you're doing the press interviews. Yeah, true. It's a win-win.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I'll be watching Garfield. Very obnoxious cat, isn't he? I love that movie. I love lasagna, too. Yeah, he does. That was his go-to meal. It was his Achilles heel, wasn't it? I've got a cat, but that's a lot of prep work.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I mean, I love my cat, but cooking a lasagna is a lot of work, too. I can make a lovely lasagna, but that's a lot of work. It is. For a love my cat, but cooking a lasagna is a lot of work. I can't make a lovely lasagna, but that's a lot of work. It is. For a daily meal, Garfield was eating it on the regular, right? Yeah. I was like, that's a lot of effort to go in for a cat meal. Who owned Garfield? John. John was his name. So the poor John's just slaving away
Starting point is 00:54:37 in the kitchen every day, chopping up lasagna. Yeah, feeding it to Chris Pratt now. And Michael Jackson's youngest son, BG, formerly known as Blanket, now he's changed his name, has made a rare public appearance on TV. He's 19 years old now, and he hasn't really been seen publicly for quite a long time.
Starting point is 00:54:55 He just did a quick sort of TV interview, basically backing support for the climate change... What do you call that thing that went on? The Climate Change Summit. There you go. Oh, yeah, in Glasgow, Scotland, yeah. Yeah, so he was quickly interviewed at a Halloween fundraiser at the Jackson family's estate. And it's quite interesting seeing how old he looks now
Starting point is 00:55:14 because when you think of him, you just kind of think of him as a little boy with the long, dark hair. So, yeah, well, I mean, I'm not surprised he changed his name from Blanket. Yeah. If I had the option, I probably wouldn't be called Blanket. But he was born as Prince. That was his first original name. That's right.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And then his nickname was Blanket, and now it's Beejie. You'd probably just rock with Prince. Isn't that quite a cool name? That's a pretty cool name. But did Michael Jackson one day go, I'm going to call you Blanket? Yeah. Is it like, you know, when your boss gives you a nickname and you can't tell your boss that you don't want that nickname?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. Hey, Blanket, come here. Now, was Blanket the baby that he hung over the balcony? I think it was. Yeah, I think it was. That famous. Controversially. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. She had some controversial parenting, didn't he, old Jackson? Yeah, he did. And that was the daughter he had with Debbie Rowe. Yes. Was it? Yeah, he had Paris Jackson with Debbie. And then I think he had had what's the second son
Starting point is 00:56:05 called or the first son second child can't remember his name but that was with her as well right but the biological
Starting point is 00:56:12 mother of BG hasn't actually been oh no one knows not yet so for him people don't really know who his mother is okay
Starting point is 00:56:19 so you know the first two but not the third yeah oh there you go I wonder if that'd be all sorted wouldn't they, financially? Yeah. You'd think?
Starting point is 00:56:27 With the estate? Yeah, yeah. You'd think so. But then we were just talking about Shaquille O'Neal basketball yesterday going that, you know, his kids are like, we're rich. He's like, no, we're not rich. I'm rich. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That's his thing. That's right. He's like, I'm rich. He's like, if you want to, you know, you need to study, if you want me to invest in your companies or anything like that, I'll look at that. But don't just take it for granted that we're all rich. I'm rich. I'm the guy who wants to grow up with work ethics.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Well, that's a really great way to do it. And, you know, probably being a parent, he's like, I'll probably invest in their businesses. But at least it makes them work. You're not rich, I'm rich. And that is your site update for this hour from where you can enter the hits.co.nz After 8 o'clock we're joined by the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern Should we be worried about sending kids back to school Next week in Auckland
Starting point is 00:57:12 If that happens, we'll ask her that As well as that, are our phones listening to us All the time, is Siri always listening What does that mean, we're going to get to that after 8 o'clock We need a bit more paranoia in the world New Zealand's breakfast. It's Jono and Ben. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Just gone 8 o'clock. We've got the Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, joining us very shortly on the show. But you may have seen this in the news over the last couple of days. The president of the UN Food Programme, World Food Programme, said that a $6 billion donation from Elon Musk, the billionaire, could solve world hunger. So he's called out Elon
Starting point is 00:57:50 Musk. And Elon Musk has replied back. Oh, he has? Yeah, he replied back going, you show me on this Twitter feed, this thread, exactly how the $6 billion will solve world hunger, and I'll sell Tesla stock right now and do it, but all the accounting has to be fully disclosed. Now, this guy's also replied back saying, hey, the headline's
Starting point is 00:58:06 not quite accurate. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't want open accounting because I get paid a million dollars a year. So, hey, should we take this offline? He said that the $6 billion will not solve world hunger, but it will go a long way to save 42 million people on the brink of starvation.
Starting point is 00:58:21 So, yeah, when you put it like that, and he said I'm happy to meet in Earth or in space. Wow. That's what the guy said. But you were saying about Elon Musk, he's so rich, he's richer than Finland. Yes, his net worth has now made him richer than Finland, the country.
Starting point is 00:58:36 How's that? He could buy Finland. Yeah. He could. He could be the whole government of Finland. So how much is the UN guy on if he can travel to space for a meeting? Clearly he's got his own space rocket
Starting point is 00:58:48 they're paying him quite well. You could be putting food in mouths. It's kind of good when you get called out like that and you're like, alright, we'll prove it and I'll do it. So good. But he couldn't prove it, could he? It seemed like a bit of a clickbait headline. It seems like it would go a long way to helping
Starting point is 00:59:02 and I'm sure that money, so maybe he will come to some sort of agreement. And to be honest, that's all I read of the article wasbait headline. It seems like it would go a long way to helping and I'm sure that money. So maybe he will come to some sort of agreement. And to be honest, that's all I read of the article was the headline. Yes. I was like, yeah. And formed a huge opinion of it.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Maybe it's a good lesson in reading more than just one paragraph. Yeah. Hey, coming up, as we mentioned, Jacinda Ardern, we're putting her
Starting point is 00:59:17 on the George Foreman grill. We're going to get a roasting or a slow cooking. We couldn't quite decide what a George Foreman does. Yeah, she's not too far away. But also, your phones. Are they listening to you?
Starting point is 00:59:27 And how do you get pushed ads for stuff that you were talking about or you're looking on a... It's all a bit murky. We're going to get into that very shortly. It is the hits. What's your mind? What's your mind? There's no going back.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You're on the hits. Jono and Ben, 8.09 on a Wednesday morning. Now, we all seem to use phones and computers most days, all the day long, some people as well. And we're joined by an expert very shortly to answer some questions that we've had. The first is regarding ads. You get pushed ads on your computer, on your phone. Something you've been talking about off air,
Starting point is 01:00:02 something that you've been concerned with lately is a certain ad that keeps getting fed into your social media, Ben Boyce. It's all to do with trimming of certain areas and keeping yourself looking good. I keep serving all these things as well. They do these analogies with tennis balls as well. Ew, gross. Did you know that 85% of partners
Starting point is 01:00:23 prefer a pair that are fresh and well-groomed? She's talking about tennis ball, but I don't think she's talking about tennis balls. I don't know. So it's about shaving a certain anatomy, isn't it? Maybe, because your phone can hear you, can't it? Well, that's what we want to find out. Is your phone always listening? Maybe you're talking about saving your balls, your bliss balls that you like eating.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And it misheard you. And now you're being fed these commercials. It's a very, as I say, we're joined by an expert very shortly because I really want to know, I got into a bit of an incident last night. Is your phone always listening? Like when you have your phone and often you have it on Siri and things like that and it's waiting for going, hey Siri, is it always it must be always listening.
Starting point is 01:01:01 If that's the case. You're a paranoid guy, aren't you? You're a paranoid guy and you don't need... Someone's phone's going off right now, as we said. ...approach to privacy on Apple.com. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, she was just listening.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah, well, yes. Literally, she said, I respect your privacy and only listen when you're talking to me. But how do you know? But you just heard me. But you just... What? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Wow. If you want to learn about Apple's approach to privacy, you can visit apple.com, passive aggressively, Siri. Well, it's really interesting. You've had some interesting ads pushed towards you as well. Sometimes when we've been doing radio. Yeah, this happened the other day. Have a listen.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Let's Google it. Let's have a look here. Is it okay for my purr colour to change? That was a YouTube pre-roll. Whatever, mate. Whatever. Prove it. Prove it.
Starting point is 01:01:55 A moment of unfortunate timing on the radio. But yeah, so you're getting pushed. Sometimes I'll look at something on my laptop and then next time I pick up my phone and you're like Instagram and you get an ad for that thing in your Instagram. So yeah, how's it all working? Just if anyone's interested too, no it's not okay if the colour changes 100% of the time.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I looked further into it. It was unusual. There was a couple that did an experiment and they basically talked into their phone about cat food. Non-stop talking about cat food. They don't own a cat. Because I could use some cat food. Well, the cat is almost out of food, so...
Starting point is 01:02:30 We might need some cat food. We should buy some cat food. I should call somebody and ask if they know where to get cat food. Choose they have fun conversations. There was natural, free-flowing, everyday couple banter there. But according to this video I was watching, and again, I want to ask our expert next If this is true or not
Starting point is 01:02:47 This happened They went on to Facebook later And they had an ad served to them for cat food And there you have it Cat food So I guess Facebook does listen Oh by the way this came in two days later I think Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:00 Do we even need to talk to the expert My phone just piped up before have we are have we solved the problem already yes it's always listening is it but is it this thing and what is it taking from you and what what's your privacy around it you know I was also looking because I got deep into an intel you know me I love that I'm full of paranoia oh this is a guy who uh takes every plug out of the socket before he goes to sleep at night yeah probably not the best person to probably too I'm probably too far down the rabbit hole. He was part of that hickory trying to get through the Auckland border.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I wasn't. Blaming 5G. But they were saying, again, I want to find out next, that a company sometimes gains access to your phone through embedding software into the games you download. So if your game accesses your microphone, then sometimes you've clicked away, clicked away, and it just happens like that.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Hmm. I don't it just happens like that. I don't have an answer for that. Is there something else I can help with? Oh, this is freaking me out, bro. Next up. Maybe it's the vaccine. Something's going on. We've got Martin Cocker from NexSafe joining us next.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Hopefully we can answer some questions that I need to know. The tough questions this morning. Phones, computers, what's going on? It is the Hats. Rise and shine. Time to start the um, who are we kidding? We're not the boss of you. Jono and Ben, the Hats. We're in the middle of Ben Boyce investigation. It's like when they do
Starting point is 01:04:18 Tover O'Brien investigates. At the moment Ben Boyce investigates trying to make a name Ben Boyce on phones. Yeah, he's trying to make a name for himself in the world of journalism. And are the phones listening to us? And if you're talking about a particular subject, topic, brand, whatever, will you be then fed ads relating to that issue? How does it all work?
Starting point is 01:04:37 How does it work? Someone just texted in 4487 when you said, Hey Siri, it unlocked their phone through the radio. Wow, so you're doing that right, it unlocked their phone through the radio. Wow. So you're doing that right then. We could unlock multiple phones. See, Siri. So if we all go, hey Siri, then all of the phones that-
Starting point is 01:04:55 Except for mine, because I turned mine off last night as I was paranoid about this. In a fit of paranoid rage. I was like, it can't be always listening to me all the time. That's why we've got an expert. Yeah, we do. And I love it when this man's on the show. From NetSafe, Martin Cocker, the show always feels a little bit safer with Martin on it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Welcome to New Zealand's Breakfast, Martin. Good morning. It's a pleasure to be here as always. Caught you at another weak moment, did we? Yeah, that's right. I try to say no, but your producers, you know, they tell me I'm going on to a different show. Yeah, yeah. He thinks he's on RNZ at the moment. So Martin, help me out with my paranoia here. So what are your phones listening to? Are they listening? What's going on? Well, the truth is they are always listening. I mean, they have to be always listening because
Starting point is 01:05:39 they're listening for their wake words. So if it wasn't always listening, it wouldn't hear you say, hey, Siri, or Alexa, or, okay, Google. So, yeah, they're always listening. The actual question is, what do they do with the information that they hear that isn't the wake word? So if it's just listening to us converse. Now, the rules are that it just hears it and then just dumps that information. It doesn't transmit it back to the company until you say, hey, Siri or Alexa. So officially, all the stories of, you know, I was talking about going on a holiday and then I got advertising, they have to be false according to the rules that the companies follow.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And there has to be another explanation for why you're getting that advertising. But it seems like too much of a coincidence in many cases, would you say? It does. I mean, look, you're talking about Google, Apple, Amazon. I can't believe that they would, you know, deliberately record what we're saying and then breach those kind of rules.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I think the risk is just far too high for those companies. I'm sure there are times when they've made mistakes, and there's certainly times in the past where they've done things with the data that they shouldn't have done. But I don't think that they are listening. I'm fairly confident. I'm very confident that they're not doing that, so confident that I have all the devices in my own house,
Starting point is 01:07:02 and I'm quite happy to have them. Because I went to my settings yesterday. I was like, Siri no longer listening, Facebook no longer listening. I got a little bit paranoid about it. He dumped them all, he broke up with them all. But that's your problem, Martin, and that's what we love about you. You're too trusting. It's Martin to a fault, his trust. And so do you think everything that's happening now is in the realms of legality? Yes. Not always exactly what our law would want it to be, but of course the law in the countries where those companies are based. So for most of the major organisations we use, that's California and the US.
Starting point is 01:07:41 But they still have quite strong privacy protection laws, and obviously they're a quite litigious society, so they don't tend to want to set themselves up to be sued in those kind of countries. So yeah, I'm pretty confident, I'm very confident I should say, that they're not listening and using that data outside of when you say and ask it to do something. The reality is that these big platforms, Google, Amazon, etc etc they're building incredible files on us through legitimate means so through the things that we do online and they're making you know what looks to us like you know just uncanny guesses uh but that's what the systems do that i've said for a while that i honestly think google knows me better than i do i believe about me google knows it's
Starting point is 01:08:22 false it knows all of our deepest, darkest secrets. One day Google could unload on every one of us and we're all screwed. I was reading online though that they were saying again that some people are saying that companies can gain access to your phone through embedding some stuff in their software through games that you may not know that's using your microphone. Do you think there's any truth in that, that maybe a game's using a microphone and that's providing some information to someone else? Yeah, a little bit of that does happen, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:08:52 So that's not Google, but that's somebody getting that, or Apple. That's somebody writing that software into an app and then sneaking that app through the app stores and onto phones. And from time to time, those know, people are, you know, those apps are getting through that are breaking, you know, the law and the rules, and they're therefore accessing other parts of the device and that sort of thing. Increasingly, both the major platforms are getting better at weeding that sort of thing out, but unfortunately, there are a handful.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And yeah, they, I mean, obviously, if somebody's a dishonest criminal, then they're not going to worry too much about the rules. They're going to try to use all of the capabilities of the phone for whatever purposes they have intended. We've got Martin Crocker with us from Netsafe. One quick thing, too. You know when Apple and other companies, too, they upgrade their software and all of a sudden you find your device is slowly not functioning
Starting point is 01:09:47 to a point where you need to upgrade to the next model. Is this a ploy from the industry? Well, there's a certain amount of that built into every device that the software is going to outdo the hardware at some point. And, you know, those are sort of commercial decisions they never tell me, but I do also feel somewhat suspicious about the fact that, you know, there's going to be an operating system that makes the phone I'm talking to you on now useless in a year's time and I'm going to have to buy a new phone.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I mean, you can put that together yourselves and I think you've probably come to the right conclusion. Gotcha. Martin, thank you so much for your time. It's really, really interesting to talk to you about all this sort of stuff Thank you for sharing your expertise And if people want more of it, they can go see you where? At netsafe.org.nz
Starting point is 01:10:30 And quickly too, Ben's asked me to clear his history And burn his laptop if anything ever happens to him Is that usual? I wrapped about, mate I wrapped about, Martin, you wrapped up Good on you, Martin, we'll speak soon Thank you very much, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern With us very shortly.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Hard-hitting interviews and informed opinion. Mike Hosking on Newstalk ZB. In the meantime, here's Jono and Ben. The hits. So, Jono and Ben, joined by the Prime Minister of New Zealand, Jacinda Ardern. How are you doing, Jacinda? Oh, good morning, guys. Not too bad.
Starting point is 01:11:01 How are you guys doing? Oh, mate, you sound rinsed. Yeah. Oh, do I? Well, no one would blame you. Oh, no, no. Trucking on. Trucking on. I imagine though, because you obviously have to make a lot of big decisions.
Starting point is 01:11:18 That's the job, but balancing the health and balancing the economy. Do those sort of decisions sort of keep you up at night or keep you thinking about it all the time? Oh, I think about everyone and our situation constantly. But, you know, I think I do spend a lot of time in the lead up to decision making, talking to people, analysing all of the information that we have. But once the decision's made, because of all the time that goes into it, I feel confident in those decisions
Starting point is 01:11:47 and I back them. I mean, no one would argue that everyone's just trying to do best for the country in your decision making. Do you feel that you could be losing the support of the people and the rollout in our recovery? Oh, look, there's no doubt it's tough right now. And as I said on Monday, this is the toughest bit right now. We're in a transition and the transition is really, really difficult. We're moving from one system into another system.
Starting point is 01:12:14 We're moving from elimination where we, you know, we didn't have COVID cases to now a system where we're using the vaccine so that we can, you know, those cases have less impact on us, but they're there. That is a difficult transition. It's a big shift. But that shift and that change and people getting some more of their lives back is within sight for Auckland. It's not far away at all now. So it is a bit of a home stretch for you guys. Now, a lot of people wanting you to come to Auckland.
Starting point is 01:12:44 You're going to come to Auckland next week, from what I understand, which we're worried because who's mowing your lawns? Who's picking up your mail at your house in Auckland? So the limitation that I had before with the rules of Parliament meant that if I went to Auckland, I wouldn't be allowed to come back to Parliament for five days. And so I'm one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't, because that, of course, would have then meant I wouldn't have been able to front media
Starting point is 01:13:07 and there would have been lots of other people who probably would have been grumpy with that. Listen, whatever you do, you're going to make people grumpy. Yeah, I know I accept that. It's part of the job. But now we've got a way that I can do it, and it has less impact on my ability to keep doing the job. Oh, now you want to do your job, does it? Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I mean, even you talking to us, you're probably making people grumpy, like Mike Hosking. As I say, damned if you do, damned if you don't. But yes, I am visiting. And so that means I will get to touch base with some of the people that I've been touching base with virtually anyway, and it will still be probably, possibly even virtual. We're still working through how I can do that in a way that makes sense. Now, Jacinda Ardern, Primacy, obviously trying to get as many people vaccinated as possible, get to 90%.
Starting point is 01:13:59 There's new ads on TV targeting the youth, which is one of the age demos that need to get a bit more vaccination. I was a bit upset you didn't get me to voice those ads. I was a bit upset you didn't. We found this. This was circulating around on TikTok. You're doing a rap from a few years ago, Jacinda Ardern. Oh, no. No, that doesn't need. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Do you know what? When I saw it, someone said that to me. And I have no recollection on it. So that makes me think I have wiped it from my memory. You did well. I thought you did well. No, no, no, no. She's like, don't play it.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Okay, we'll play it. As soon as you hang up, we're going to play it. And please, it's very triggering. Okay, we won't. Okay, we're fine. You did well to rhyme labour, too, which is a hard word to rhyme. No, but no one should rhyme labour.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I think that's the point. You're like, no. All I had was neighbour or lightsaber. On one last serious note, there's a lot of parents in Auckland like ourselves, John and myself, thinking about are we going to send kids back to school maybe in the next
Starting point is 01:14:57 couple of weeks with the unvaccinated kids going back to school? What do you say to parents that are a little bit worried about sending them out there, can't get vaccinated? the thing i would i would say is please know that we you know we weigh up and think through all of those uh issues and decisions in a lot of detail a lot of thought goes into questions like for instance primary schools it's why they haven't gone back to date so please know that when we make those decisions, it's because we believe we can do it safely.
Starting point is 01:15:28 So we wouldn't do it otherwise. We have signalled that we're doing some work on that right now. We are talking to the education sector around some of the options to just make it as safe as possible. And again, these are the things that we've been talking to and reading the research on what happens when schools return and impacts on kids. And so, again, we don't take these decisions lightly. A lot of thought goes into them before we make them.
Starting point is 01:15:53 You do see this side of the argument, though, and I guess I had this thought as well, is the one message has been vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate. But then in the same breath, too, you're willing to send a whole section of society out unvaccinated. The one, actually, one of the, if you get the long-term version of what I say there, it's vaccinate so we can protect the vulnerable, and we include kids in that. So by you being vaccinated, you help protect your kids. We're all lines of transmission, right? We're all pathway for the virus, and so the more we cut off those pathways, the safer our kids are. Someone asked me yesterday, why did you get vaccinated?
Starting point is 01:16:28 And apart from, of course, showing leadership and demonstrating that it's safe and it's effective, I did it for my child because that's as important to me as it is to everyone else. Come November 29, Auckland's not at 90%. What are we going to do? I actually, you know, this week I think you're going to hit 90% first dose, and then that means within three weeks you've got the ability to hit second dose. Auckland is doing vaccines incredibly well. I was looking at the numbers yesterday,
Starting point is 01:16:59 the way those first doses have reduced down really quickly. Yesterday you were just under 4,000 first doses still left to go. That is phenomenal. So actually, Auckland's got the ability to do it. Is producer Juliet going to be frothing her face off at Rhythm and Vines? We've been very hard on that as well. We've been talking to those who are running those festivals to see what we can do
Starting point is 01:17:26 in this time of uncertainty to help them keep running because I know a lot of people that it's not just people want that, that's a sign of summer for people and also for our creatives that's their livelihoods too
Starting point is 01:17:42 so we're working very hard on that A lot to get on with, I imagine Jacinda Ardern, thank you so much for your time, we really do appreciate it this morning. Look after yourself guys. Jono and Beams, empty your basket with themarket.com, with prizes worth up to $5,000.
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