Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - FULL: Why do we love the smell of babies?

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

Our Smell-Election continues and we chatted with a Smell Expert from New York. Why do we love the smell of babies? We get the answer. Ben paid for what twice to avoid an awkward encounter and Jon...o has an update from Te Awamutu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast today, the 15th of June, halfway through June, and Ben Boyce, the football team, the All Whites, just beaten, just pipped at the post, weren't they, by Costa Rica. Now, we were sort of trying to do a radio show while sort of keeping an eye on it, which was very distracting, particularly as we're trying to be having a chat. One of us will be talking, the other person will go, yeah, quietly behind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, oh, was that for my, you're really into my chat, Jono? Oh, no, he to be having a chat. One of us will be talking to the other person. We'll go, yeah, quietly behind him. And he'll be like, oh, was that for my, you're really into my chat, Jono?
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, no, he's just watching a goal. No, no, I'm always all into your content as well. On the inside, I'm making that. You don't ever give me that reaction of the all, the New Zealand team almost scoring a goal. Now, New Zealand did score a goal. It was 1-0, and then they went to a review, and it seemed like a very harsh decision to overturn the goal.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And then later, one of our players got sent off as well so you know the sports the sports jocks there'll be a lot a lot to unpack here Jono what would you say? A lot to unpack that's what I'd say. A lot to unpack Shindon you showed three hours all you've said there's a lot to unpack and you haven't unpacked anything. Start unpacking the stuff
Starting point is 00:00:59 A positive spit on it. Isn't it epic that they made it there in the first place you know you're saying that they're ranked so much lower than Costa Rica. Yeah, 70 players lower than Costa Rica. So do they have to play other games to get to that point? I think so. Yeah, and Australia got through yesterday as well. So it would have been amazing to have Australia and New Zealand in the Football World Cup.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Costa Rica voted the happiest country in the world. Does it? Yeah. Well, they'll be even happier today, won't they? Yeah. So I think automatically we get into the next fifa world cup because i think it's in oceania and um because of the placement of the world cup uh and if you so we're going to get to the next one so it's like just host everyone down here and then you automatically qualify yeah
Starting point is 00:01:39 that's the way to do it it's the way to do it but i don't think they'll let you do that multiple times did you play so did your parents make you play football under nines i played up to under nines then play rugby so yeah that was the goal i was the goalie in our team oh yeah very it's a nerve racking role on the football field uh did you play football bell not football played netball i was the ballet i was a ballerina so i did a lot of dancing and that sort of stuff yeah but netball like athletics and stuff but didn't play football Yeah, I wasn't a good goalie. I wasn't a good goalie. Distracted.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Like there's stuff, there's big parts of the game where sometimes you don't have to do much. 90% of the game you're not doing anything. And then all of a sudden, oh my God, here's your time. What are you going to do? It's like the overnight security guards at this building. 98% of the time there's nothing going on. But when it's on, it is all on. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:23 What was your favourite sport to play at school? Or even now? I do like a bit of social netball. It's actually a really fun sport. Social netball's fun. Social touch rugby is fun. I played rugby and cricket at school. I enjoyed those.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I used to get quite aggressive on the netball court. I was a centre, so we'd shove the ball at someone. It's the only place that I'd get like that. I tell you what, if you're playing Andrew from Accounts, from the accounting singing firm Price Waterhouse or something, on Wednesday night netball, elbows. I was talking to my mother at school. She had black eyes.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I was like, what happened? She's like, social netball. That's the level. It's not always so social, but it is fun, though. It's fun. I remember the rock where I used to work, Radio Station, we had a social cricket team and we'd play
Starting point is 00:03:09 on Monday nights and there was a wonderful period where our boss had employed former black cap Simon Dool on The Breakfast Show, thus making him an employee, thus making him eligible for the rock social cricket team. Now I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:03:25 motivation behind his employment was. He was a great broadcaster in defence of Dillard Lee, but at the same time a wonderful cricketer. But he refused to play social cricket. He was like I don't do it. It's just, it gets awkward and he's like, he's in a position where people they're going 110
Starting point is 00:03:42 against him. They wanted to take him down they wanted to bowl a ball into his head, they wanted to hit him for six he's like, people get overly competitive and so he has to kind of tread the fine line of still being social but still being good enough to go oh, Simon, Dill's lost it all you know? Yeah, you're right
Starting point is 00:03:58 it's a difficult situation for him we didn't wheel him out for any games, apart from the final and they're like, the other team were like is that former international cricketer? We didn't wheel him out for any games, apart from the final. And they're like, the other team were like, is that former international cricketer? He doesn't want to look too good, because everyone's like, oh, this guy's struggling on there. But at the same time, you want to look like you're better than everyone,
Starting point is 00:04:15 because you are better than everyone, because you play for the New Zealand side. So he was playing at probably 70% capacity. I could tell, and he won us that game. And I think an official complaint was lodged. And fair enough too. Not turning up to touch rugby with Bowdoin Barrett. Oh, he's working here.
Starting point is 00:04:33 What, at the fish and chip show? Yeah, he's part of the fish and chip show. Great job. Enjoy the podcast. We're getting to the smell action this morning. Talk to us. A smell expert. A lady that sort of looks at fragrances and scents for big international companies. She's from New York. Why do babies
Starting point is 00:04:50 smell so good? We asked her that. And there's a smell that can just make you happy. Yeah. So if you're around this aroma the entire time, you'll be happier in life. Enjoy that on the podcast. If you're here for parenting advice, you're in big trouble. Jono and Ben on the hits. Always taking on Costa Rica for a place in the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And we'll give you some scores, some updates throughout the morning. You're going to have two fumbly football announcers who know nothing about football trying to keep you up to date. But we will give the score. And we were just discussing, spoiler, is it ruining the game for people if we give the score immediately or do we need to give a warning? Oh, let's give a quick warning now. But I feel like people that are really passionate
Starting point is 00:05:25 about it will be watching it. Yeah okay so we'll give you three seconds to turn off if you are driving to the football or you don't want to know the score because this happened to you at the Celtics and the Golden State game last week. I tried to avoid all media and all my fines and stuff and I stupidly wore a Celtics singlet
Starting point is 00:05:42 to pick up some dinner, some takeaways and then someone went, great win by the Celtics. And I stupidly gave a three-second warning and now we've wasted that. Someone will come back and go, what? We still haven't given the score. Okay, so Costa Rica, here we go. They're up 1-0.
Starting point is 00:05:56 They scored a goal after about two minutes. So not a great start for New Zealand. Mind you, there's 70 places ahead on the table, aren't they? But, you know, hey, it's only the beginning of the game. That's right. And it's a game of two halves. Yeah, and other clichés as well.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And football will be the winner at the end of the day. A lot of wild weather around the last couple of days. Another heavy night of high winds and rain around New Zealand. Easing a little bit, but I've been having a conversation. I've been talking to you guys about my daughter, Indy, about how it's like, you know, kids, they don't dress for the conditions. They dress for inside. And then they go outside.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And I'm like, you need more clothes. We talk about three layers now. Shut up old man. I'm a kid. You used to be like that. You used to be cool like that. You used to care about how warm you were.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And now I'm like, Indy, three layers. We've got to have like a t-shirt on. We're going to have like a sweatshirt on and then have a jacket, some form of jacket, three layers. That's what you need.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's your message. Because I don't see her in the morning, obviously, because we do this job. And then I pick her up from school. And yesterday she comes out. She was like, hey. She was like, three layers. I'm like, yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:06:52 But she was holding her sweatshirt and her jacket. She's like, I got three layers. You didn't tell me you had to wear them. I was like, yes, that's the point. Did she get out in a t-shirt yesterday? Kids, they all, I mean, you look at all the kids coming out. They're coming out in shorts. They're coming out in all sorts.shirt yesterday. Kids, they all, I mean, you look at all the kids coming out. They're coming out in shorts. They're coming out in all sorts.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I know. They don't care. Belle, what are your layer options during the winter months? Well, I don't know. Three? Auckland cold. It's not, you know, I'm very climber. Yeah, Auckland's not too bad to be in.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I've lived in really cold places. We can't mow in Auckland. I was in North Wellington Christchurch. But then the thing is, Indy got me good later because I've been doing like a workout. I've been watching a YouTube workout, doing a workout. And I came out something, and I was wearing shorts and a top. She just walked past me, tapped me on the shoulder, and went, three layers, mate. Like that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 She's smart. Pulled it together. Hey, I've been working out the thing. But I was like, that was well played. Three layers. There's a guy I just saw walk past the window. Here, stubbies and a t-shirt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Stubbies in June. I respect people in stubbies in a t-shirt there's people in Vicargill who go stubbies t-shirt all year round exactly yeah
Starting point is 00:07:49 I spoke to our friends they come from Vicargill she's like my dad refuses to get out of stubbies
Starting point is 00:07:54 it's almost like it becomes a badge of honour I'm sure you know mid-July he's going why have I committed
Starting point is 00:08:00 to this it's cold my legs are dying right now Annie Pryor my my mum, she's stressed out because Dad dresses like a vagrant. She's like, oh your father's wandering around Christchurch
Starting point is 00:08:10 like a vagrant. He's like me. That's where I get my vagrant dressing gene from. He'll just chuck on any he looks like he's dived into a clothing bin and he's wandering around Hagley Park looking like a vagrant. That's her concern. I was like, he's got to be warm. He's like a six layer guy.'s her concern. I was like, he's got to be warm. He's got to be warm. He's like a six-layer guy.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But all sorts of wild clothing on. Scrolling through your feed. We call him Uber Eats around here because he's about to deliver the news. What's going on? Cost of living obviously high in New Zealand and in Australia as well. And people at the supermarket
Starting point is 00:08:39 desperate to save money in Melbourne have been doing a wee bit of a supermarket hack, I guess you can call this. A Melbourne woman has filmed inside a coal supermarket over there showing that people have been snapping off the broccoli stalks so the broccoli will weigh less when they go to pay for them. Oh, that is genius. I love getting one over the supermarkets.
Starting point is 00:09:01 When they introduced the self-service checkout, I was like, you guys are taking a gamble here. Now the tech has kind of evolved where they can monitor a lot of the stuff that's going through the scanning system. But in those initial months and years, geez, you could get away with murder. Now, obviously, you can use the whole part of the broccoli,
Starting point is 00:09:18 but people, I guess, tend to not use the stalky part. So, yeah, the cold supermarkets aren't very happy, obviously, about people leaving that in there but it seems like quite a good wee hack. It's a great hack and you know,
Starting point is 00:09:29 I got lost in an article here Ben, these are nine dirty tricks the supermarkets are doing. Would you like all nine in a very slow fashion? Maybe not all nine. Are they dirty tricks or are they just like
Starting point is 00:09:40 how they've set up their business? It's probably just tricks of a trade. It'd be like dirty tricks radio stations do. It's like, here we play a song that you want to listen to around about this time and play another one you want to listen to.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And chances are we'll never play your request. So the first dirty trick, they play slow music to make your experience feel less rushed so you spend more time in the store. Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, you don't seem that... Oh, no, no, it makes sense. They put healthy fruit and vegetable at the time in the store. Yeah, okay. Oh, you don't seem that... No, no, no, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They put healthy fruit and vegetable at the front of the store so that you feel less guilty about purchasing all of your chips, your Doritos and stuff, your chocolate at the back end. Gotcha, that's nice. They put the essential items at the back of the shop, bread, milk, eggs. Yeah, they do. So you have to walk through the entire store to get to them.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Dirty dirty dirty tricks All the expensive items, they're at eye level Dirty trick Look down below, you'll get a more affordable option of what you're staring at And I won't go the remaining five I don't want to pull down an entire industry, that's not what we're here to do Ben
Starting point is 00:10:40 Supermarkets, we haven't been battling it away for the last couple of years, right? Of course the football Is the other big news today The New Zealand All Whites Taking on Costa Rica For a place in the World Cup If the All Whites win this
Starting point is 00:10:52 They'll be in their Third ever World Cup But the Costa Rica Are placed 70 places Ahead of them We're 101 in the world They're 31st There was
Starting point is 00:11:01 Basically we say Spoiler alert Costa Rica Are up 1-0 but the All Whites had a great shot on goal before that just went quite close. Yeah there's a guy in a white uniform just had a good little kick at the old thing and that's going to be the football
Starting point is 00:11:14 coverage you get through this morning. Australia yesterday though qualified after a penalty shootout and a lot of people talking about the grey wiggle the goalie from Australia who was wearing a grey sort of top and dancing around like he was doing the hot potato like a girl. It was an unorthodox approach to the goal. Like this is
Starting point is 00:11:30 his first time in goal in the game. I don't think he was here for the entire game. They subbed him on at the end of the game. They got rid of the other goalie because they were like this guy's better at penalties than you know at saving penalties and basically just does the dance. David with the dance was like this guy is well he's taking a gamble.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But it worked. Australia are through to the Football World Cup. Will the All Whites join them? We hope so. We'll bring you updates throughout the morning. It is the hits. You've got Jono and Ben. It's Jono and Ben's General Smell Diction.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, the election where you vote with the smell of your nose. You vote with your nose and not your heart. That's right. And we're looking for the best smell, the best odour, and we're putting the best odours up against each other in a sort of knockout style tournament, much like the New Zealand football team at the moment. Beautiful, beautiful.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But which will make a place in the World Cup final of smells? We'll find out later in the week. Doing well to weave in topical events there, Ben there well hey yesterday there was a couple of big battles almost like costa rica taking on new zealand i see why he gets the big bucks you're sitting here bell watching this gold now we talked about we had kfc the smell of kfc taking on the smell of rain on the pavement, and it was a big win to KFC. We phoned KFC yesterday. What is it about KFC we all love the smell? Maybe because of finger-licking good.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It is finger-licking good. I'm always licking. Well, I'm doing less finger-licking nowadays. Are you less? After COVID, but, you know, I mean, true, you can't lick other people's fingers. No, yes, I'm not going to go on KFC and start licking your fingers. So KFC through to the next round.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Another big winner was the one we've been backing through this competition, Jono. Freshly washed baby over Lynx Africa. Oh, now that was a big battle. The freshly washed baby actually ended up winning. Yeah. Now, just imagine if you had a cologne. Freshly washed baby actually ended up winning. Now, just imagine if you had a cologne. Freshly washed baby. I could wander around looking like a baby and smelling like a freshly washed baby.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And the other big battle we had yesterday was lawn pippings taking on freshly cut firewood. Now, we put it to you guys on text as well as on the phones. And then we put it on social media at Facebook and also Instagram. And just by two votes, by two votes, that's all that they got the win for was a freshly cut firewood, won by two votes. No, firewood would come first, definitely. There's the passion that we're looking for. There's a guy who owns a firewood company.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Do you ever get sick of the smell? Because, I mean, it is a lovely smell, isn't it? Freshly cut wood. No, no, no. I would suggest stacking firewood in your bedroom. Stacking firewood in your bedroom. Have the permanent aroma of firewood in the household. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It'll help you sleep better. So those have been the updates, the results over the last 24 hours. The tournament continues on after 7 o'clock this morning with a big battle from two very different worlds. The smell of liniment in a changing room compared to the smell of freshly baked bread from a bakery. Spy. Know what's up. Spy.co.nz
Starting point is 00:14:41 Here we go shunting our sticky beaks where they don't belong into the private lives of famous people, Belle Crawford. Well, I mentioned before that Kim Kardashian, she of course wore the iconic Marilyn Monroe dress to the Met Gala. Well, it's been returned and it's damaged. Oh, that's a nightmare. I know, there's photos online, people are outraged. Basically, the seams where the zip is, it's all torn all torn like not you could probably fix it but it
Starting point is 00:15:07 just how do i say this because like kim's beautiful and everything i know she lost weight to wear it but it just looks like maybe oh it was stretching a bit yeah i see i see all everyone's got different body types don't they and hers was vastly different is vastly different to what marilyn munro's was yeah so why are we getting upset about I understand it's an iconic dress. I'm outraged mate. But surely if you're going to lend it out, you know that there could be a chance that someone could spill
Starting point is 00:15:34 their red wine on it or you know someone's eating spag bol on this or whatever you know you're lending out something. You know that it may not come back in exactly the same condition. It's also missing some crystal diamantes. I totally get what you're saying but it's like you shouldn't damage something. Like you should bring it back in exactly the same condition. It's also missing some crystal diamantes. I totally get what you're saying, but it's like, you shouldn't damage something. You should bring it back in perfect condition.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to go to Auckland Museum and go, can I borrow your T-Rex for my son's fifth birthday? And they go, yeah, sure. Yeah. And then it comes back and the tail's missing. Yeah, where's the bar? I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:16:00 They took the gamble. Yeah, they were like, hey, if we're going to let it out, there's got to be some, something could happen to it. And thankfully, things can be fixed. Thankfully, they were like, hey, if we're going to let it out, there's got to be something that could happen to it. And thankfully, things can be fixed. Thankfully, they can take it to a tailor. Ben Humphrey, producer of Bee Humps, gets his pants taken up at a tailor. Things are fixable in this day and age. That's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I know Frank Casey, his suit hire, they wouldn't give you a bond back if you ripped a suit pad, would they, Ben, what you're saying? That's true, but they take a gamble every time, don't they? They do. Also, Britney's ex, Jason Alexander, the one who stormed onto her property, demanded to see her on her wedding day, was live streaming the whole thing. It was bizarre scenes.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Even watching that video, you're like, what? How is this going on? And I think everyone's going in on the security, not stopping him. But they're probably going, oh, this guy must be here. Must belong here, sorry. Yeah, and if you don't remember, she was only married to him for 55 hours, and he's just been a bit creepy to her along the years. Yeah, great 55 hours of marriage, though.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Long-lasting. Well, he's actually now facing charges and must stay away from her for three years. Now, Brittany has much better lawyers now. Matthew Rosengart achieved basically the impossible, getting her out of that conservatorship. And he had this to say. I'm personally outraged by what happened. I will tell you that in addition to the misdemeanor charges for trespass, battery and vandalism,
Starting point is 00:17:15 which I think you know about, he has now been formally charged with felony stalking. Felony stalking and he's being held on $100,000 bail as a result. Wow. So that means he can't get out of prison until the court, he can't get out without $100,000? Yeah, basically. Gee, that's a lot of money. That's a lot to get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 That's a lot. That's a lot to get off the charge. It's just to get out before the court case. Because they do like when ASAP Rocky was being held for that shooting thing, Rihanna's boyfriend. They must do it in equation to how much your net worth is. Because his was like millions. Oh, was it? To get out.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And he's like, yeah, no worries, mate. Make that back up tomorrow. Wow. And that is fine. You can get more now at thehits.co.nz. I'd come bail you out if you needed trouble. Is that 100 grand? 100 bucks. 100 bucks.
Starting point is 00:18:05 100 bucks. It is the hits, Jono and Ben. Baldly going where no show has gone before. How long is it going to take for Ben to make fun of my bald head? Jono and Ben on the hits. Watching Costa Rica take on New Zealand in football for a place in the World Cup. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:18:22 We just scored a goal and then it got taken away, got reviewed and it was a foul and so now it was going to be 1-0 but now it's back to 1-0 to Costa Rica which is really gutting just before halftime. Oh no. It's very distracting, very hard to do a radio show this morning. It is. Yeah, like I feel like we're 40%
Starting point is 00:18:39 focused on talking on the radio at the moment. It's huge. I mean, you get a place in the World Cup of football. It's a massive, massive sport around the world. We've only been there like three times. I was just about to ask you, how many times have you qualified? This will be our third World Cup if we get in.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We'll keep you up to date. Throughout the morning yesterday, Ben, I went to Te Awamutu. I went to a funeral. My wife's grandmother passed away. It was a beautiful service. As I said,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I was in charge of providing multimedia Oh you did the audio visual display How'd that go? Went off without a hitch No nudes popped up in the montage That was my major concern How many other rogue photos from my photo library Have snuck in here? None
Starting point is 00:19:19 It was a beautiful service But you know Te Awamutu Beautiful part of the country, 13,000-odd people live there. It was home to Neil and Tim Finn. Yeah, so the Finns are from there, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's a crowded house and split ends. Maybe the house got too crowded in Te Awamutu. They had to move out. But, yeah, there's like a homage to them in the town, rightfully so as well. But I tell you what they're doing well. I tell you what they're doing well in Tell you what they're doing well in TA. What's that?
Starting point is 00:19:47 The latte game. Oh, yeah. Boy, oh boy, you're getting bang for your buck in the latte. Four litres of latte for $3.50. Just in a big bowl. Almost bucket-sized bowl. Jenny Boy's a big backer. My mum loves it.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. Single shot, too. Single shot. Doesn't want a double shot. Single shot and like a soup bowl full of, you know. Keep it going. Keep it going. You know when you're picking your bowl up with two hands,
Starting point is 00:20:11 you're in for a ride. Yeah, but you do understand it probably feels like value for money. A huge value for money. You know, you play $3 or $4 for a little tiny thing. You were having something the other day that you got inspired by Dr. Chris Warner. Oh, Piccolo. Yeah, tiny. Just three shots with a little bit of that you got inspired by Dr. Chris Warner. Oh, Piccolo. Yeah, tiny. Just three shots with a little bit of milk.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Three shots? Three shots, yeah. That keeps you going. But yeah, I thought, that's what you're getting value for money for in small town Aotearoa. Your latte. And it's probably, you know, Waikato, huge dairy industry, it's probably pumping straight from the udder into your cup. So much milk they need to get rid of in that part of new zealand the other thing too i watched someone
Starting point is 00:20:49 in the next table in the cafe they ordered a lamb shank the entire lamb came out whole lamb ready for money still alive on the plate oh gee i don't know what some of that was grim viewing i was like turn away kids some of that that's what way enough. But also the rose capital of New Zealand, did you know, Te Awamutu? I didn't know that. Yeah. Each small town sinks its teeth into something, don't they? Yeah. What was the wider upper?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Oh, Marston was golden shears. Carterton, where I was living for a wee bit, that was the Daffodils. That was the Daffodil town. It was the, you know. Did they live up to their name? Oh, there's a few Daffodils. They needed something. I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I do love the golden shears statue as you were welcomed into Masterton, which resembles a part of the male anatomy, I think. I grew up all through and even as a teenage boy I didn't really even notice this, but as soon as you arrive to Masterton in my hometown, you're like, look at your sign. It looks like a... I was like, oh God, it does do.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Don't tell anyone else in the town this it'll mortify them now two guys with tertiary broadcasting qualifications prove C's get degrees
Starting point is 00:21:53 Jono and Ben on the hits every day it seems like you read the news and there's lots of grim stories horrible reports of crime from ram raids
Starting point is 00:22:01 on shops to shootings with gangs and it seems like the problem is getting worse and worse. Yeah, and you do. I mean, you feel sorry for everyone involved, but in particular the business owners, too, who must just be frightened that they're going to turn up to their shop the next morning with a car rammed through the front of it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 You don't feel sorry for the business owners of the bollard industry. They've probably never been better. But it's very scary times. It is. And we're joined by Jared Gilbert, who's a lecturer at the Canterbury University and spent years researching and integrating himself into New Zealand gangs. How are you, mate? Welcome.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Very well, thanks, boys. Good to have you on. Thank you for your time. Very prestigious program you're on right now. Well, I've got to say, I think the topic of gangs is perhaps a bit of a diversion from a couple of rascals like yourself entertaining in the mornings.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I guess the thing is we've been looking at the news every day, as a lot of Kiwis have, and you're seeing everything from ram raids on shops to shootings, and you're like what is going on out there? Are things out of control? We're definitely in an uptick at the moment in a couple of areas.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Gang violence. In fact, you identify gang violence being one and also ram raids. And they tend to sort of feed on themselves to a degree, right? The publicity that's given to them perhaps makes them slightly bigger in the public mind. And certainly when it comes to the ram raids, the young people that are doing that, and they are young, are putting them on social media, leading to sort of copycats. So, yeah, we are going through a bit of a spell at the moment, but it certainly won't last forever.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I mean, look, for those store owners that are being targeted, imagine the hell this is. I mean, you know, I don't want to diminish that. And, Christ, the shots being, you know, bullets being fired into people's houses is incredibly terrifying as well but for the vast majority of New Zealanders, they won't come into contact with us so we do
Starting point is 00:23:52 need to keep just a little bit of perspective on it as well. Not to say that it isn't an issue and does need to be tackled but we don't want to fire ourselves up more than we need to. But that's our job here in the media we're here to blow everything out of proportion. Well mate, I'm writing about it in the paper every second day as well, so I'll cop a bit of that as well.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And politicians too, they're all like, oh, if we're in power, we'll do this. Is any of the stuff that they're saying going to work? Well, look, all of the proposals have to be examined on their merits, but all I can say is this is a really complex area to think that politicians who have thought about it for 10 minutes and come up with solutions on the fly will win the day is a hell of a stretch. Well, like you say, you're dealing with generations of, you know, even these gang members who have grown up in dysfunctional households
Starting point is 00:24:38 and you don't just fix that overnight, do you? No, mate, and those problems are difficult to fix, right? Really difficult to fix. really difficult to fix there's intergenerational issues here and they will take a very long time to solve. What do you do to ease gang tension? Would you just boil it all down to ego at the end of the day? Oh mate there's a lot there's a lot of ego involved we're talking about gang dynamics right where you know if you're disrespected or fronted or you know or something happens to to you or one of the people in your gang then you are obliged to go
Starting point is 00:25:11 and sort that out yourself you don't ring the cops and say hey i've had i've had a problem like the rest of us do um you've got to go out and solve it yourself and it doesn't take much of an imagination in fact we're seeing it on the streets right now that these tit-for-tat, escalating tit-for-tats can quickly get out of hand. And actually, that's the other thing about this, is that there'll be a lot of chest-thumping within the gang saying that they can handle it, that they're staunch and all of this. But I tell you what, it's a very unsettling time.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Whenever you leave the house, you've got to be really conscious that someone's going to have a crack at you at any stage. So a lot of those boys that are involved right now will be looking for ways out, and often that police attention gives them the excuse to go, do you know what, let's calm the farm here a bit, boys. Now, Jared Gilbert, I know you do a lot of research into gangs. Okay, Ben and myself, we're both starting a gang. I'm going to be the Bald Eagles.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm the Bald Eagles. You can be the bald eagles. I'm the bald eagles. You can be the bony men. So who do you want to be in, Jared? Which gang? Well, mate, I'm definitely a bald eagle. When I went into the gang scene, and I spent years researching the gangs, when I went to the skinheads, I shaved my hair off,
Starting point is 00:26:19 and, you know, just to kind of fit in. And the gods never allowed it to grow back. As a form of punishment, I and the gods never allowed it to grow back. It was a form of punishment. I'm a bald eagle all the way. So you say you've gone and hung out with gang members before. Is that a frightening experience? I spent the better part of about six years hanging out in the gang scene. And look, mate, I tell war stories from time to time, by and large,
Starting point is 00:26:46 hanging out in that scene for days and weeks and months on end. You soon find out that gang members' lives, like the lives of all of us, are monotonous and routine. And actually it's in those types of things where you kind of get a bit demystified. When you go around to a guy's house and he's got his toddler on his knee, you know, and just waiting for dinner and complaining about the bills, they all become rather normal.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But just the scene from time to time has, you know, elements to it that are far from normal. And that's, you know, that's that period that we're in just right now. And it's Jared Gilbert, expert on crime. Thanks for your time this morning. Talking about all the full-on crime news out there at the moment. Gentlemen Benz, Rush for Gold. Gold Rush.
Starting point is 00:27:33 George Ezra. Your chance to rush for gold every day this week at 7 o'clock in celebration of George Ezra's new album. It's called Gold Rush, a kid. George Ezra, of course, with smash hits like Shotgun and Blame It On Me, You Know Him. It's great to have a new album from him out. You need to register at thehits.co.nz each morning. We'll send someone from the Hits
Starting point is 00:27:51 away outside a listener's house and we'll give you 60 seconds to rush outside and get the gold. It started at $400 yesterday. Today it's jackpotted to $800. No one came out of their fuddy yesterday morning in Christchurch. You know, George Ezra, we were fortunate enough to meet him on one occasion. He was lovely, eh?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Oh, just the most charming British gentleman you will come across. It's almost like Prince William and Ed Sheeran had a love child, and it was George Ezra. Yeah, we found some stuff that we found funny. People had bagged us online and were like, hey, can you sing it in your lovely tone? Because maybe it'll sound better. And he was like, oh, guys, I can't do this to you.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He didn't even know us, but he's like, I can't do this to you. I can't read these guys. I don't want to hurt your feelings. We're like, it's fine. He was like, no, I can't do it. And if you didn't love him enough, you know one of his favourite pastimes? What's that? Doing puzzles.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He loves puzzles. I'm in love with George Ezra. And Geordie, welcome from Wellington and welcome along to Jono and Ben, mate. Poor promotional people get up way too early and weirdly stalk outside listeners' houses. You know, that's exactly what I was going to say. I've never sat in a car with the lights off staring at a closed house. Yeah, is it thrilling?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah, actually. It's giving me a bit of a rush. I'm having trouble figuring something in there. Yeah. Career and stalking lay ahead, Geordie. But you're outside someone's house who has registered at the hits.co.nz for the Rush for Gold competition. Let's state their name and we'll start the 60-second timer. All righty. Serena Austin from Nine Eye Wellington.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I hope you're listening. Girl, I'm outside your house. All right. Start the timer. Serena Austin. listening. Girl, I'm outside your house. All right. Start the timer. Serena Austin. 60 seconds, Serena, to come out. And get to that $800. All thanks to Gold Rush Kid.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Out now. Listen to wherever you get your good music. I imagine, you know, morning's very busy as you're in between rushing around, getting your pants on your legs, brushing your teeth. You've also got to cram in 60 seconds to win a radio competition as well.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Any sign of life, Geordie? No, no. The lights are off. All the neighbours' lights are on. I wonder if any of our neighbours are listening. It'll be decent enough to go get it. Serena! I'm picking she's a...
Starting point is 00:29:54 Are we going for an early morning door knock? Oh, it's 30 seconds. She's got 30 seconds to claim $800. That's a lot of money. If there's no response, it's going to jackpot tomorrow to $1,200. Wow, anything at all? No signs of life.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Serena Austin. Serena! Come on, Serena. You can do this. Not even a window. 10 seconds left on the clock. It looks like it's counting down for Serena. Here we go from 10.
Starting point is 00:30:20 She'll be kicking herself. No one tell Serena. We'll keep this a secret from her Pretend like it never happened Oh the time is out Unfortunately for Serena She's lost the $800 But it's gonna As you said before
Starting point is 00:30:33 $1200 tomorrow So register right now At the hitstockcode ONZ It's all thanks to George Ezra's new album Gold Rush Kid And Geordie May we sincerely apologise
Starting point is 00:30:41 For making you get up For no reason at all At all To sit in the car No reason. To talk to us and now you can drive home. How far away is Nine Eye from where you live? Oh, it's a good half hour.
Starting point is 00:30:52 It's a tired drive in. Now you're stuck in peak hour traffic heading back in. I mean, it's all on us. And we apologise from the bottom of our hearts. Thanks, Geordie. Have a great day, all right? You too. See you later.
Starting point is 00:31:04 You're charged to win $1,200 this time, but tomorrow. Scrolling through your feed. Thanks, Geordie. Have a great day, all right? You too. See you later. Your chance to win $1,200 this time, but tomorrow. Scrolling through your feed. All righty. Now, he's breaking hearts and he's breaking news. Ben Boyce. The Wiggles. Everyone knows the Wiggles.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Got some Wiggles there, Bill. They're returning to New Zealand for two shows in Auckland with the original cast, the old school, the OG Wiggles. And these shows aren't just for kids. They're targeted for those 15 and older, the more adults-only version of the Wiggles. Are they in bars and pubs, are they? I think they're going to be in Spark Arena and another... So you can go along, you can drink, it's for adults. You can go, wake up, Jeff, where's Jeff?
Starting point is 00:31:41 He's combing in the bathroom at the TSB Arena. Yeah, chug a chug a big red wine and things like that. You know? So, yeah, so I guess because kids that are growing up now, a lot of them would be adults that first started watching the Wiggles. They did this in Australia and it was massive. They did sold-out gigs for adults. So now they're going to do, as well as their gigs for children,
Starting point is 00:32:00 they're going to do some ones for adults along the way. Does the captain get his feather sawed out in the adult shows? You've got to be careful. I think they get to dial a driver for the big red car as well at the end of it. Haven't they got a song called Do the Propeller? Oh, yeah. My mate Shunter does the propeller. I hope they're not.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't think the Wiggles are going to be delving into anything adult only. What a fun idea, though. It's a really fun idea. Yeah. And, of course, everyone's talking about the football today. The New Zealand team are taking on Costa Rica.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Now, this is for a place in the World Cup. Now, the World Cup, it's probably the biggest sport in the world, football. And we've only been to the World Cup twice. This will be the third time
Starting point is 00:32:37 if we win today. It's a very important game and Costa Rica were up 1-0. We scored. It was great. Everyone celebrated, and then they went to a review, and this happened.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That is terrible intervention from VAR. I'm sorry. I am sorry, but that is not within the spirit or the speed of the game, and that is litigating the absolute minute details, and it has denied New Zealand a route back into this match. Yeah, it was pretty sad.
Starting point is 00:33:06 One of our players had kind of fallen on the knee of one of the Costa Rican players as the ball was passed across. So they called it a foul, and it didn't even happen way before the goal, but they disallowed our goal. I always like, you know, that was clearly the New Zealand commentary. I just said, what was the Costa Rican commentary like at the same time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You can definitely tell. I'm wearing as hard as a sleeve and good on them. Yeah, no, FIFA, you know, very powerful organisation, FIFA, the Federation International Football Accommodation. I don't know if that's going to work. Do you know FIFA have got car parks in this building for some reason? Twelve of them. Perfectly good car parks.
Starting point is 00:33:41 You get upset about it. You're like, who's parking in these? I could park in these. Yeah. Although Ben Humphrey raised a good point. He said the Women's Football World Cup is going to be played here. So he's like, maybe they're going to have an office set up here. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:33:51 We don't even have car parks ourselves. No. FIFA have got 12 of them. It would be nice, wouldn't it? Not even using them. But a very powerful organisation, the FIFA headquarters. You know, a lot of stuff goes on. They go, do you know how many stories beneath the ground the building goes down?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Now, this is not, I don't think this is true. This is what you tell me this all the time. Where did you get this from? The internet. TikTok.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Okay. That's how I ended up on the lawns of Parliament. But 12 stories beneath the ground to a bunker. There's a bunker down there.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Why? No cell phone coverage. Here. I'm confused. No, not in this building. No, the FIFA headquarters. He's trying to make it feel like it's
Starting point is 00:34:27 like a Dr. Evil and Austin Powers and stuff. It is! Why are they talking about 12 stories beneath the ground? Why do they have to be 12 stories? No cell phone coverage. What evil things are they plotting beneath there? Why can't they just say, check your phones at the door and just go into a meeting room?
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's more dramatic if you do it 12 stories beneath the ground, isn't it? I don't know if that's true, but some of the other stuff was. I did a scrolling to your feed this morning. You got the hits. Jono and Ben, 7-16. It's Jono and Ben's general smelliction. That's right. Forget voting
Starting point is 00:35:01 for freedom. Forget voting for human rights. This is the only vote that counts. Ben, what's going on? Well, we're putting the New Zealand's best smells, as voted by you, up against each other to find out what is once and for all the best odour, the best smelling thing in the country. And it's been hotly contested online. Yeah, some of the big winners so far, the smell of a freshly washed baby has advanced through onto the next round, the smell of Play-Doh.
Starting point is 00:35:27 KFC went through yesterday as well, and so did Firewood, the smell of freshly cut firewood. But the next round. Round seven, Liniment in Changing Rooms versus Freshly Baked Bread. Ooh, okay, all right. So it's the smell of exercise and the smell of immediately undoing that exercise. Yeah. Now, we've been calling places around the country.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Like yesterday when we were talking about KFC, we called a KFC. And obviously, everyone's always like, oh, it's great to work at this place because of the smell. We're going to call a bakery today to find out how good it would be, you know, being surrounded by freshly baked bread. But it's like calling North Korea, isn't it? How's it going over there? Everything's fine, thanks. Yeah. Propaganda.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Exactly. So we thought, why don't we try and find a business that's located next to a bakery? What is it like all the time smelling the bread, smelling the bread cooking? So after the show yesterday, we spoke to a shoe store owner in Taupo. Have a listen. I'm just trying to make out if you're for real. No, it's for real. This is a very random question, but what's it like working next to a bakery?
Starting point is 00:36:33 Does the novelty wear off or every day you're like, God, that smells good? Well, to be honest, like I've worked in town for a long time. I've only been in this store for like six weeks, but it's very, very tempting. It's not good for the waistline and everything smells terrific i can imagine too you'd walk out of the store you're like oh i've got to go in there and get something yeah and usually on a cold day like this it's a pie it's a pie well because that's one of the uh yeah there's obviously the bread uh freshly baked bread is a great smell but would you say that's better than a pie in the pie warmer
Starting point is 00:37:05 or would both be about the same? Oh, no, the bread would be the top. Yes, no, bread. Bread. Okay, you're going to put your vote in for bread as the best smell in the smell election. Oh, no, you just cracked me up because I watch you guys on, I'm not very good, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That's all right. We haven't been on TV for a while. That's fine. Instagram. Yeah, we're still on Instagram. We're still burdening people on Instagram. That's for sure. And we're bugging people while they go about their business at the shoe store.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That's so right. Here you go. Lovely Raewyn. Oh, she was great, wasn't she? She was absolutely. She's working next to a bakery. She's like, my God, it smells amazing. And the novelty has not worn off.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So this is the next round. Liniment. Taking on freshly baked bread. What do you want to put your vote behind there, Ben? As I said before, there's something about the liniment, the smell of liniment in the changing rooms. I tried to find out what it was. I tried to find out what the liniment smell was, but do you know what the most
Starting point is 00:37:55 asked question on Google is about liniment? Yeah. It is can you drink liniment? Can you drink liniment? And the answer's not going to surprise you. But if you're having to ask the internet the question, can I drink liniment? Can you drink liniment? And the answer's not going to surprise you. But if you're having to ask the internet the question, can I drink liniment, how the hell did you spell the word liniment? All right, I'm going to go vote for liniment.
Starting point is 00:38:12 What are you going to go for? I'm going to go freshly baked bread. Love me a big old white loaf of bread. Smells pretty amazing, doesn't it? I can eat a whole loaf in one sitting. The Hits, the Jono and Ben podcast. We are in the middle of the smell-ection. Jono and Ben's. We are in the middle of the smell action. Jono and Ben's
Starting point is 00:38:26 general smell election. And this round, it's a big banger. Round seven. Liniment in changing rooms versus freshly baked bread. Now freshly baked bread, obviously an iconic smell. Don't they use that as a wee trick
Starting point is 00:38:42 when you go to open homes from time to time? They'll put some bread in the oven or whatever it's like you walk in the house and you're like oh that smells lovely smells homely
Starting point is 00:38:49 smells lovely remember I used the toilet in an open home oh yeah well yeah you monster why is that monster what else is the toilet
Starting point is 00:38:57 there for that's not your toilet do you is that a no no I don't think well you tell me what the alternative was and was that a better option?
Starting point is 00:39:06 Go to the toilet before you go to the open house? Well, I'm not talking about that alternative. Or find somewhere to go afterwards. Yeah, all right. So Ben's backing Linamid. I'm going to be Linamid, just because it's such an iconic smell. I walked past a Janji Rooms the other day, and I was like, oh, that smell brings you back to that deep heat smell from playing rugby.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. And what does it do, though? We had that quick conversation the other day. Did you ever find out what like what's it do it like for you when were you putting liniment on your legs oh before going out there yeah how old were you yeah probably again like 10 years old yeah what was it doing for your performance not much but at least you had something to blame afterwards if my performance was like last time didn't you say you got liniment in your eyes i did i got it caught i did wash my hands properly and i sort of rubbed my eyes going out on the rugby pitch,
Starting point is 00:39:47 and yeah, that wasn't good. I started crying. You've got to have like Bowdoin Barrett did that, eh, this weekend. He's like, why is Bowdoin Barrett crying? He's so upset. It's like, liniment in your eyes. Yeah. Anyway, you smell fit with liniment.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Shelly's phoned through. It's liniment taking on the fresh smell of baking bread. What are you going to put your backing behind there, Shell? Shelly, what are you going to vote for, mate? Bread. Absolutely bread. What are you going to put your backing behind there, Shell? Shelley, what are you going to vote for, mate? Bread. Absolutely bread. Love it. Big old stodgy loaf of white bread. Oh, it's nothing
Starting point is 00:40:13 nicer than walking past a bakery or you smell the bread cooking early in the morning or as you said before, open homes. That's how they sell a house. Put the bread on. Did you judge me for using the toilet in an open home, Shelley? I'm a cleaner, so absolutely.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I kept it clean. Yeah, but still, it's... I was like doing that thing when you... Did you ask? But you didn't ask. Who'd you ask? Well, the person, the real estate agent. Well, they're going to go, no. That's when you need your liniment on. That's your argument there. Yeah, thank you, Shelley. Appreciate it. We'll get Cassandra on. to go, no. That's when you need your liniment on. That's your argument there.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah, thank you, Shelley. Appreciate it. We'll get Kasanya on. Have a good day. You too, mate. Great to have you listening. Kasanya, you're on in Wellington. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:40:52 It's the smell action of fresh bread taking on liniment from a changing room. Definitely bread. Bread's taking this one out. I think it lands fine. But hey, Ben, let's not count our chickens before they hatch. We've got 24 hours. The voting lines are open. The results don't come through until tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And thank you very much for your call. Cassandra, have you got any affiliation with Freshly Baked Bread? Does it take you back anywhere? Definitely to my childhood. But the smell of their fresh bread, fresh croissants, oh my God, that's just amazing. Yeah, it's pretty good. I think it might be a front runner in this competition. Hey, you have a great day.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Thanks so much for voting. Thank you. Bye. I might just put Lineman on all the time because you smell fitter. You do smell fitter. He's either going to a kickboxing fight or he's just finished a kickboxing fight.
Starting point is 00:41:42 They've got pranks. They've got puns. Now they just need some actual lessness. Jono and Ben on the hits. Now the costs of living are obviously high at the moment. And in Australia at the supermarket, we spoke about this earlier, one Melbourne woman filmed inside her supermarket showing the broccoli stalks had been broken off by customers so they didn't have to pay for them on the wait.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So you get more broccoli, more banging broccoli for your buck if you rip the stalk off and then you do the wait thing for the self-service. We're just talking about this. Great hack. Oh, well, yeah, it is a great hack, but, Belle, we were just talking about this off here, and it wouldn't work in New Zealand in most places. Yeah, when I heard you talking about that, because in Countdown on the self-service, they make you say how many broccoli you have, so it's per the item.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Same with avocados. So it wouldn't work here. Oh, I know for a count. I don't know about other places. What does that say about us as a nation? We're in Australia built on criminals. They're trusting them more over there than we're trusted here in our supermarkets. And we got into a little hole about, you know, tricks, nine dirty tricks the supermarkets
Starting point is 00:42:43 play on you. Putting the fruit at the beginning of your shopping experience makes you feel healthier. About getting those chips and chocolate at the back end. That makes sense, doesn't it? Putting the essentials in the far back corner. You know, so you could walk in and just dog-leg to the back corner, and you'd save yourself a whole lot of money. Now, I've got a not-what-to-do hack, because yesterday I had a wee panic at the supermarket.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I had a lot going on yesterday. I was trying to do a lot of things. What were they? I was sorting out the kids, trying to walk the dog, trying to go to the gym, all those sorts of things. And I was sort of eating on the run. And what I'd done at home when I left, just before walking the dog, I'd put an apple in my sort of hoodie.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I was wearing a hoodie, a hoodie pocket, a front pocket. And as I was rushing around doing stuff, I'd walk the dog, and then I was whipping to the supermarket. It wasn't until I was by the fruit, I looked down and I was wearing a hoodie, a hoodie pocket, a front pocket. And as I was rushing around doing stuff, I'd walk the dog, and then I was whipping to the supermarket. It wasn't until I was by the fruit, I looked down, and I was like, oh, my God, I've got an apple stashed in my hoodie pocket. Now, this is an apple I'd brought from home. But at that moment, in my head. Previously paid for apple.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Previously paid for apple. I was starting to, you know, I started getting worried. Yeah, you would do. I look like I've stolen an apple and put it in. It was very obviously in the front of my pocket. For you, this is like walking into a bank with a gun in your pocket. This is the same heightened level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah, so what I did is, I don't know why I did this, but I decided to find similar apples of my one and put my apple in a bag with other apples. So I paid technically twice for that same apple as I took it out. So you paid for the apple? Yeah, I put it within other apples of the same brand, put it with his mates,
Starting point is 00:44:11 and I paid for the same apple again twice. I was like, it was either that or leave it there on the shelf. But I was like, I want an apple. I wanted my apple. Even if you went to the shopkeeper, you're like, hey, this is what happened. And now I've grabbed another apple to pay for it. He you'd be like we'll just take both and just go just go
Starting point is 00:44:27 like there's bigger things in the world that you need to do you know what i did the other day at the supermarket i bought something home and it expired two days before i walked in just swapped it walked out as i was walking i was like bought this a while ago mate it's expired they're like okay buddy walk straight on out what you't? I paid for it initially. And you just went back in and helped yourself? I went back in and swapped. As I was walking out the door, I yelled out to the, hey, mate, just so you know, I paid for this, but the other one was expired, so get a new one.
Starting point is 00:44:53 They're like, all good. Did they say all good, or did you make up that in your head? I bet they didn't say all good. And they'd have been like, what, what, what? There's a guy in a Hive who's best chasing me to my car, but I'm pretty sure he was going, it's all good, mate. I think you're just running to go, don't worry about it. That's what he was saying. Then I had to burn out of the car park.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Now we're in the middle of our smell action. We're looking for New Zealand's best to smell, and we've tracked down an expert who works in New York. She works for a place called The Future of Smell, and her name is Olivia Desler. She joins us right now. Working for The Future of Smell, you must have an obligation to smell incredible, Olivia?
Starting point is 00:45:27 I smell absolutely incredible always. I change perfumes and showers multiple times a day. So you smell magnificent. That's job number one. Second on your list, what is your job? What is my job? So I help
Starting point is 00:45:43 companies develop scents develop sense you work with brands all around the world to design smells fragrances experience why is smell so important to humans smells are important because this is actually it's the first way of experiencing the world so the molecule it's the only sense where the molecule goes directly into our brain and touches the receptor, which turns into an electrical signal. So it does not go into any other parts of our brain. And so just by smelling, we're able to, just the smell can make us move away or move closer to an object. And this is not even like consciously processed. Like we notice smells so quickly and this is for survival so smell is mainly for survival so that we are able to detect our partners detect what's a danger
Starting point is 00:46:33 like you know the air around us so it's really about sampling all this information constantly to keep us alive well that's the point of So can you, because you must be very good at smelling, can you detect the odor of desperation through the phone right now from us too? That, not yet. I could maybe hear it, you know, the technology that could hear that. But smells do affect, you know, you can basically, they tap into your memories, as you say, but they can also make us feel different things like i was reading on your website that there are smells that help
Starting point is 00:47:08 you like work better or relax there's all different things like that yes yes feel happier so rosemary great scent and that is actually good for memory so just to remember things in general and if you're if you're studying, for example, you can smell. If you smell rosemary while you study and then smell it again, you're able to retrieve those memories much better and faster. And it's also really good for concentration tasks, problem solving and concentration. So rosemary is a really good one for that. What about happiness? Happiness.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So things like citrus, like an orange, there's a component in the orange that like we test it all around the world. And this is actually people are will self report that they feel like in a happier mood. But in general, actually, any smell that you have positive associations with, or smells from your childhood, if you smell those or even think about them, this can reduce your breathing and make you feel calmer. So many great smells out there, and that's why we're doing this smell tournament, this random smell tournament.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But the baby smell, we love the smell of freshly washed baby. And we've openly discussed it. We've declared our love of freshly washed baby. And we've openly, we've discussed it. We've declared our love for freshly washed babies. As a smell expert, someone who works in the future of smell, why do babies smell so good? Because they smell of milk. They smell of mother's milk. And that's like emanating from their head.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You've made it weird. We were weird enough, but now you've made it weirder. Sorry. Sorry. you've made it weird we were weird enough but now you've made it weirder sorry sorry but so we're programmed basically to really like that smell because it's it's you know it's offspring we want to you know save it and cherish it and help it grow so you're saying maybe we should be going straight to the source when we Oh, goodness. That's not, that's, no, no. There's something about the way it's broken down. Oh, okay, sorry. It's broken down in a way, and then, you know, and it's actually,
Starting point is 00:49:13 that's why it's the smell that is most loved in the world. It's like this vanilla-y, milky smell. Oh. So vanilla, because I've looked online, I don't know how much I can take away from online articles, but vanilla apparently is the most loved odor. Yes, so that's very interesting. And number two is like a pineapple-y kind of smell,
Starting point is 00:49:33 like a yellow fruity smell. Good. Hey, Liv, really interesting talking to you. If people want to find out more about your research and what you do, where can they head to, mate? I'm sorry. Excuse me. Sorry. There's a lot of words ending in mate.
Starting point is 00:49:49 All right. Wrap it up. You can catch it. Future of Feet, Olivia. Thank you so much. Future of Smell. Future of Smell. FutureofSmell.com.
Starting point is 00:49:56 There you go. Future of Feet is his foot fetish website he likes going to. You can do that. It's my OnlyFans account. Lovely to talk to you, Olivia. That was so fascinating and interesting you take care
Starting point is 00:50:07 you too bye guys making dreams come true if you dream of annoying guys talking at you Jono and Ben on the hits sadly the New
Starting point is 00:50:15 Zealand football side aren't going to the World Cup just losing in a controversial game 1-0 to Costa Rica well New Zealand actually scored a
Starting point is 00:50:22 goal and then got it taken off them for something that didn't seem like a foul but hey I'm no soccer expert or radio expert for that matter. But knowing New Zealand will take that well and we won't get too fired up
Starting point is 00:50:34 about that. Exactly. It's Jono and Ben's General Smell Election That's right it's not quite as important as the general election but it's definitely more important than one of those weird council by-elections The smell election, the favourite smell of New Zealand, Ben Boyce Well this round is a big round right now
Starting point is 00:50:52 Round six Coffee brewing versus Always blow on the pie Pie in the warmer Yeah, coffee and pie I mean both will probably give you long-lasting heart complications Eventually But both smell and taste magnificent That's right, so we went round the office And pie. I mean, both will probably give you long-lasting heart complications eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But both smell and taste magnificent. That's right. So we went around the office yesterday. We're producer Bee Humsters and went around and asked some people for their thoughts on what smells better, freshly brewed coffee or a pie in the pie warmer. Coffee brewing because it wakes me up. Pie in the pie warmer. Yum. A pie. Delicious. Oh, I'd go coffee.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Morning glory. I'd definitely have to go for the old pie in the pie warmer. Just that nice crispy pastry getting nice and warm with some nice mince and cheese inside would do me quite fine. Pie in a pie warmer. You can't beat a pie. Don't drink coffee. Pie, easy. I think I prefer coffee.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Because when you need a coffee, you need a coffee. A pie is quite a, it can be quite dirty, can't it? Oh, coffee roasting. It might just be a caffeine dependence thing just chilling in the back of my brain that really drives me towards it. But yeah, no. Sucker for coffee. Coffee brewing for sure. Because I can't live without coffee. And I don't eat pies. Coffee.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Because it's not meat. You can tell that was in a quiet office because a lot of people are like, coffee, coffee. The most awkward box pops ever in an office. Hey, hey, hey, guys, I have a quick question. Someone raised a very good point. The smell of a pie is nicer when you need a pie. If you don't need one.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Is that a good point or did I just pretend it was a good point? You confused me. I'll just say yes. I know what you mean. Yeah. So just some research into the smell of coffee. Just smelling coffee every day improves your memory and alertness. So you can go up and smell your barista's neck,
Starting point is 00:52:34 and you'll have a better memory. And they'll go, excuse me, get your nose out of my neck. Don't worry, I'm just trying to refresh my memory, my cognitive system. Cheryl, you're on from Whangarei. Welcome. Hi. You have heard the people in the office. What do you want to put your vote behind in this election?
Starting point is 00:52:52 I really want to put my vote behind coffee, but also we used to have a pie shop across from where I work, and so you would hear, not hear, but you would smell the pies cooking in the morning, and then you always wanted a pie. But coffee still wins it for me because even though you felt like having a pie, as soon as you'd eaten it, you'd instantly regret it.
Starting point is 00:53:13 That seems to be the way. Hey, we're going to send you out a bottle of CK1. Oh, thanks our friends at the Chemist Warehouse. Woohoo! You're going to be the flashiest smelling person in Whangarei. You're going to have a great day, Cheryl. Thank you. Appreciate it. We're going to go a great day, Cheryl. Thank you. Appreciate it. We're going to go to Hora Whenua.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Colleen, you're on. New Zealand's breakfast, coffee, pie. What's it going to be? Definitely a coffee. What's your coffee order, Colleen? I usually like a caramel latte, but a pie or a coffee always helps on those hard mornings. Yeah, a latte. That sounds delicious.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Well, I was saying, you say in Te Awamutu they do lattes by the litres. Yeah. Do you get a big bowl of latte in Hora Whenua? Yeah, no, we've got some good ones here. Yeah, big old bucket. We're going to send you our bottle of CK1 as well, thanks to Chemist Warehouse. The real house of big brand fragrances.
Starting point is 00:54:00 So enjoy that. Thank you so much. Hey, good on you mate. Warning, this show contains Jono and or Ben. Jono and Ben on the hits. Now, we do a thing once a week called the one-take call, a very experimental part of the show, where we record our parts of a phone conversation, and then we make the phone call and play the pre-recorded bits
Starting point is 00:54:23 to the person on the other end of the line. To see if they notice, basically, that it's a recorded message and not an actual person talking to them at the time. I won't lie, it's a shocking phone technique. It hasn't worked once. The game is, if you have the whole conversation, you say goodbye and they hang up politely at the end, that's when you've had a win.
Starting point is 00:54:40 We've done this for five weeks, we're yet to have a win. Because you never know what the other person's going to say and how long you need to leave gaps for as well. I always get the timing shockingly bad. There's been some dire consequences. But it's your turn today, Ben. We're going to be phoning a hair salon, so you get now the chance to record your parts
Starting point is 00:54:56 of what you think the phone call could play out like. All right, I'll leave some gaps. Here we go. Okay, start recording. Oh, hi there. I was just wondering if I could book in a haircut. Yeah, yeah, it's getting a bit long. Nah, I probably haven't cut it in like a few months.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, a dye would be really good. Maybe frosted tips. Did you say Tuesday, 10.30? Yeah, that works great. Okay, we'll see you then. You got parking at the front? Awesome. Hey, thanks so much, Denise.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's going to be a shambles. Wow, that is going to be a shambles. You've gone names, specific dying requests. Oh no, I haven't given time to go. You've sabotaged yourself. Do you want to take two? No, let's go with that.
Starting point is 00:55:48 You're going to go with that? I've jumped to so many conclusions on it, too. I mean, if this comes off, it's going to be an absolute miracle. In one-take call history. Oh, jeez. It'll be what? We'll end one-take calls if you manage to pull this off. All right, so let's ring them back now and play them the recording you just heard
Starting point is 00:56:03 and see if they notice it's an actual recording. Going through to Palmerston North. Welcome to the Right Cut Hair and Beauty Retreat. You're speaking with Hannah. Oh, hi there. I was just wondering if I could book in a haircut. Oh, good. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Is there any stylist in particular that you don't mind? Yeah, yeah, it's getting a bit long. Oh good, is there any stylist in particular that you normally like? Nah, I probably haven't cut it in like a few months. That's all good. And the morning or afternoon? Yeah, a dye would be really good. Maybe frosted tips.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We don't really have a guy here but we do have somebody. Did you say Tuesday 10.30? Yeah, that works great. I'll just book it in, which is Tuesday 10.30. Okay, we'll see you then. You got parking at the front? Hang on, I'll just book it. Yes, we do have parking at the front.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Awesome. Hey, thanks so much, Denise. No, no worries. No worries. Are you there? Yes, I'm still here. You're still here. I'm still here. It's Jono and Ben calling from the Hits radio station. We're sorry to bug you.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Hang on. Hi. Now, this is welcome to the one-take call where Ben just had one take to record his part of a phone conversation. Then we played the pre-recorded call down to you, hoping that it would have predicted what you were going to say. What a lie! And I think he nailed it. Flawless.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Could you notice anything was awry? I mean, sort of. It was a little off Wasn't it Just a little bit off To be honest He wasn't listening To anything you were saying
Starting point is 00:57:48 Hey we want to send you Out some hell pizza For interrupting your day Alright Alright Have that for lunch You and the team You can shout at the office
Starting point is 00:57:58 Okay You're like What's going on I still don't comprehend What I love about this Is once we explain it People still don't know What's happening You're still like What was all that? I still don't comprehend. What I love about this is once we explain it, people still don't know what's happened. You're still like, what was all that about?
Starting point is 00:58:07 All right, hold the line and we'll grab your details. The Hits. For more podcasts from The Hits Network, check out iHeartRadio.co.nz.

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