Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - Is this gramatically incorrect?
Episode Date: June 18, 2024Welcome to the untamed realm of the world's Wild Wild Web! On this edition we discuss how 50% of the UK couldn't get this basic grammar question correct... Can you?See omnystudio.com/listener for pr...ivacy information.
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Coming up on the Wild Wild Web, more than 50% of the UK couldn't get this basic grammar question correct.
How will Jono and Megan fare next?
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Welcome along to another edition of the Wild Wild Web
where we like to chat about something that we've seen on the wild place
that is the internet.
There's all sorts.
What are you guys?
You're both playing some videos at the moment while I'm doing this.
What are you both playing?
I'm watching because everyone's going on about Ariana Grande,
how she's changed her voice for Glinda oh and wicked yeah so there's
an interview where she's um talking and then she's like and it completely changes halfway through i
mean she could talk however the hell she wants to do it you said that audio of her where is it when
she was acting in the younger with some nickelodeon or disney whatever it was where she first started
and it was her voice was...
Very irritating.
Call Spade a Spade.
What was the show called?
What was the show?
No, she wasn't.
That was Selena.
What was Ariana's?
Oh, it was a Nick show.
Was it Victorious?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll plug the old computer in.
It is really...
I have a soft spot for Ariana.
Yeah, I think she looks cool.
She's cool
she's been through she's been through a lot in her career yeah victorious you're right yeah
and i met her and she could not have been more nice oh that's lovely she was so sweet and that's
fine but she can still have an annoying voice we got annoying voices yeah i don't think you're
like yeah mate yeah that's not perfect. What were you watching, Jono?
Eh?
Weren't you watching a video?
Oh, no, it was just a Herald video.
Oh, boring.
Yeah, no, it was boring.
It was boring.
It was not interesting.
Hey, so more than 50% of the UK couldn't get this basic grammar question correct.
I don't know why they're testing adults on grammar,
because grammar can be confusing, right?
But I want to read it out to you and see how you guys go on this as well okay so which is the correct uh way to say the sentence grammatically it really has made the world of difference to william and i or it really has made the world
of difference to william and me well william and i isn't it so i thought in this day and age it
could be both because it used to be william and i but i i thought they day and age it could be both because it used to be William and I.
But I thought they changed it so it could be either now.
It made the world of difference to William and I.
So apparently the way you find out what's correct is you take the William out of it
and then you work out if it still kind of makes sense.
So it really has made the world of difference to I.
It doesn't make sense.
It's really made the world of difference to me.
So when would you say Ben and I? cuz I feel like yeah cuz when I always got trouble my dad was a schoolteacher so he was very hot
on stuff that no one else was yeah you're like I'm going down the country David and me you're
gonna go over here David and I go over to the thing and be like, oh, all right.
I guess it's his thing, though.
He's teaching every day.
Grammatically incorrect.
Use I when it is the subject of the sentence
and use me when it is the object of the sentence.
Yeah, but still, that makes it tricky.
Sometimes I feel like for anyone learning, you know,
firstly English to start off with as a kid,
but also English as a second language.
Very confusing. Bloody, yeah, it is. Like when you look at stuff now, you're like, what? start off with as a kid, but also English as a second language. Very confusing.
Bloody, yeah, it is.
Like when you look at stuff now, you're like, what?
That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
And then it changes and evolves too.
We chuck new, I wonder if other languages add new words all the time.
We're adding, like the Oxford Dictionary is like,
here's the 900 new words we've chucked in this year.
So that's a lot of language to learn.
If we're chucking 900 to 1,000 new words in a year.
Yeah. Lingo and slang too, then you go to different,
you know, you come to New Zealand and we are shocking.
Yes, yeah, nah.
Oh, that's confusing, right?
That would throw people.
Yeah.
Do you have a word that you use?
Oh, yours is what's love your work, isn't it?
That's a phrase you use.
Oh, that phrase, yeah.
Your crutch.
Yeah, it drives my wife insane.
Do you have anything that you'd use as a go-to?
I used to say babes a lot. Oh,to? I used to say babes a lot.
Oh, yeah.
I say babes a lot.
You're a babes.
Yeah.
I know I type definitely a lot in my emails,
and I only know that because every time I can't spell it correctly.
Oh, definitely.
Every time it gets a red line, we definitely need to know.
I'll spell that wrong.
So I know I use that a lot in email sense.
My kids use basically.
They start every story with basically. So basically, and I'm just to be like, oh, they're wrong. So I know I use that a lot in email sense. My kids use basically. They start every story with, so basically.
And I'm just flick that.
They just go, I'm a dad.
I'm like, you can tell me, but don't have to basically, you know.
It's not basic.
It's quite a complicated story.
So basically, here's the thing.
Well, when it's writing, I always say ha, ha, ha, ha a lot.
Oh, yeah.
Or lots of exclamation marks.
Was that just to clarify that you're not being sarcastic?
I do that. That's what I try and do. Is that what you try and do? Yeah. Ha, ha, ha. You say something that you're not being sarcastic? I do that.
That's what I try and do.
Is that what you try and do?
Yeah.
Ha ha ha.
You say something and you're like,
ha ha ha.
Just in case you don't know.
Smiley face,
smiley face,
ha ha.
It's a joke,
it's a joke,
it's a joke.
Very hard to get,
you know,
the way people mean things over text.
Yeah,
that's why you write,
ha ha ha.
What's this mean?
What's this mean?
Yeah,
because the way you read something and the way you intend it to be read.
Yeah.
It's that great Key and Peele sketch.
Yeah.
You'll need to see that.
We'll put a link, actually, on the Hits Breakfast Instagram.
Very, very funny how they're sending each other texts
and just the way they can kind of misread a conversation.
Sarcasm is a hard one to get across on email.
Yeah.
You know, you can come across quite blunt and know, quite blunt and raw, can't you?
You're like, oh, it's only a joke.
So you do have to add the ha-ha exclamation marks.
I noticed Gen Zers do a good job of having a dig,
but then adding a nice emoji at the end.
Oh, yeah.
Trying to cancel it all out with a fundamental.
You're like, mate.
I used to be, like, real sarcastic,
but I've tried to tone it down
because I don't think it's always received very well. On email? the time in general all the time it's a hard gauge to know sometimes
with humor right you know when you what at what point and how far can you go you know yeah but
someone said i think it was a cameraman we worked with he was like there's a fine line between humor
and hurting someone's feelings yeah after we just made a joke And we're like Oh okay And it really stuck with me Did you hurt the cameraman's feelings?
I think we did
And then you're like
Well was the joke worth it?
Not really
You don't want to make
Someone feel shit
I know
And that's not even the intention
You want to laugh with the person
Is there anything
That people say
That annoys you?
Do you have again
Do you have a crux
That you would get annoyed at?
I always feel like
People say
I couldn't be prouder
But I think
You're supposed to say
I couldn't be more proud That always I I think you're supposed to say I couldn't be more proud.
I don't know why.
I think the proper English back in the day was
I couldn't be more proud of them.
But you say I couldn't be prouder.
And you don't like the word prouder.
Well, I don't think it's grammatically right.
I couldn't be more proud of them.
I couldn't be prouder of them.
I imagine sports people would say couldn't be prouder of the team. They'd say that a lot. Couldn't be more proud of them. I couldn't be prouder of that. Couldn't be prouder. I imagine sports people would say couldn't be, sorry, would say couldn't be prouder of the team.
They'd say they're all right.
Couldn't be more proud.
Yeah.
Sports people are not worried too much about their grammar.
No, they're doing all right.
Too many knocks to the head to be concerned about grammar.
I hate when people say your boy or your girl when sometimes it feels.
It's your boy.
It's your boy.
Oh, you get your girl.
You see her.
And I'm like, hey.
It feels like quite a personal connection that we maybe don't have
no no no
your boy
it's your boy
I could never say
hey it's your boy
you know for me
maybe it's
some people can pull it off
I can't
so maybe that's where it comes from
no you should do some social videos
it's your boy
being boys
your boys
I spat my water out
I definitely don't think I'm
please
yeah
like no one's ever
you need to start the next
seven social videos
with hey guys
it's your boy
hey it's your boy Hey it's your boy
You'd be wondering
You know like if I said that
Maybe it's because
I can't pull it off
If I could
Maybe I could
It's your boy Ben
It's your boy Ben
Yeah
I'd be like
You're not my boy
No no
That's what makes me go
Sometimes when people say it
I'm like oh hang on
You're not my
Yeah
You're not my boy
Yeah
Texted
John Key always used to say
Texted He texted me always used to say texted.
He texted me.
He texted me.
Yeah.
He never quite nailed that.
Texted me.
He had like just, like if you think of just the New Zealand accent.
You texted me.
He was just the perfect one to take that around the world.
New Zealand.
New Zealand.
Yeah, he did.
He really does.
When you listen to his voice
it's quite jarring
yeah
it speaks quickly
and it's inflection
I like you John
sorry about this
oh no
it was great
but it's no
it was a great thing
it was great
brought the New Zealand language
to the world
a guy that used to work
in New Zealand from overseas
his theory was
we always use the vowel
afterwards
instead of like eggs
we'll go eggs
you know
it's like the next vowel along.
We're often, we're like,
that was him living here for a while.
He's like, you guys just flick to the next one.
It's like, it's not eggs, it's eggs.
You know?
When you do hear a New Zealand accent overseas,
you're like, wow, it sticks out.
Yeah.
Or it's when you're overseas
and you get on the Air New Zealand plane
and they're like, welcome to Air New Zealand.
You're like, yes, I'm home.
Yeah.
I'm home.
It's a very plain, basic, inoffensive accent. But then every, yes, I'm home. I'm home. It's very plain, basic.
No.
An offensive accent.
But then every now and again, we'll get in those surveys.
They'll be like, it's the fourth sexiest accent in the world.
And you're like, no, it's not.
I don't remember being fourth ever.
Well, sometimes.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
But it feels like we're not a sexist.
We know it.
We know it.
And that's fine.
It's almost like our mouths don't open properly.
We're like, we've just got to stick in this range.
Yes, you're right.
Don't open properly. We're like, we've just got to stick in this range. It's got to open fully.
Like you never hear of
New Zealand pornography doing well
on the international market. Jeez, that would be
good though, wouldn't it? Alright.
Rob, mate, you too. Take it away.
Maybe that's something we can work on.
Why don't you take those clothes off?
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
I have a home.
Are you keen for a room?
It would be quite funny though, wouldn't it?
What we should do is get pornography and voice over it
and see what it would be like.
All right, you download it then.
Oh yeah.
Just for the wild web,
I don't think it's going to fly on the show.
Oh yeah, bit more there.
Yeah, yeah, nah, good, good.
Over the work Wi-Fi, we'll just download that.
Yeah, nah, nah.
Oh yeah, nah, that's about enough.
Oh yeah, I'm all good now
Oh that was mean
Do you want to tell?
That was mean
We should do that
It'd be funny
He's still in porn
Alright so there's
The Wild Wild Web
We started with
A grammatically
Incorrect sentence
Of course we've taken it
From grammar to porn
We got there
We got there
Slippery slope
In just 10 minutes
It was
It really was
but there we go
that's the Wild Wild Web
for another week
we'll be
oh another week
we'll be back tomorrow
alright Megan