Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast - March 10 - We Chat To Karen Walker & Jazz Thornton!

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

On today's show we had two wonderful people join us. First off it was Jazz Thornton - mental health advocate and co-founder of Voices of Hope. She met Meghan and Harry in Wellington when they came to NZ - they sat down and discussed Jazz's work in advocating for mental health. Today we talked to Jazz about how we cannot disregard Meghan's comments about the state of her mental health, because it is so important to not shut people down when they open up about this. Not only that, we caught up with Karen Walker who is Barbie's official role model for 2021. Karen got to design and dress her very own Barbie in her own way! As well as this, (on possibly a less important note!) Ben is a bit gutted about how much "shelf space" his cartoon figurines have got at home... It seems his wife isn't too much of a fan!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jono and Ben, new to your mornings. Friends of Skinny, New Zealand's most recommended telco. Happy, happy, happy, oh, oh. Just when you thought you couldn't get enough of Jono and Ben, you can have them anywhere, anytime. Welcome to the Jono and Ben podcast. Welcome to Wednesday, the 10th of March, 2021. Lovely to have you here.

Yeah, America's Cup starting today, which is quite exciting here in New Zealand. Watching it on TV is a better watch than if you're out there on a boat. Because you've got graphics, you know who's in the lead. I imagine it would be very confusing if you're watching the two large boats race each other and you're on a dinghy or something on the sidelines. Well, because you can tell

when you watch it on TV, they have those awesome graphics that they somehow superimpose over the water. So you know there's a line there. Are they what? They superimpose them over the water? I thought a spray can went out there. And so you know when one boat is slightly ahead.

But even out there on the water, they wouldn't. I mean, obviously, the actual America's Cup boats have probably got computer technology. But, you know, it's very hard to tell who'd be in the lead, wouldn't it? Well, hopefully they know who's in the lead the yachts the yacht people the sailors

yeah but very impressive all the technology that goes into it and I feel like Team New Zealand had a bit of a disadvantage the fact they haven't

sailed for a while you know like in a race and it's in and out like the foreplay for this thing's gone on for months and then all of a sudden

the actual the act is over potentially by Sunday yeah two races a day so they're saying there could be a winner Sunday afternoon really has gone on for months and then all of a sudden the act is over potentially by Sunday. Yeah. Two races a day so they're saying there could be a winner Sunday afternoon.

Really? I felt like they dragged out all the other races. They were like, oh, this is going to be four months time and this is going to be but no, you're right.

I felt like the Prada Cup was the main event. Yeah. And this is just the, oh, you've got to knock this on the head. That's right. We forgot about

the America's Cup but hey, look, good luck to all the sailors who are out there. Who are you backing, Ben? I'm just... You're waving at someone out the window. Mike Hosking.

Well, when Mike Hosking waves at you, mate, yeah. Oh, there he is. You wave back. Tell you who won't be waving back to him, Jacinda Ardern. Yeah. I've never seen... Do you know what? We've worked at this building for a year.

I've never seen him down on ground level. No. I was just... That was very surprising. I was like, geez, that guy looks like Mike Hosking. And I was like, oh, it is Mike Hosking. And he was waved at me. Because our window looks out into the foyer here at the building we work in.

He works upstairs. But I have not once seen him in the foyer. Not once. And not to say that he's not. I've never seen him in the flesh. I didn't know he was real. I thought it was just a machine that our company had made to make controversial remarks

on the radio. He doesn't need to where he parks his car. He just obviously gets into a lift that bypasses this floor. Mike doesn't come down on level one on the ground level

and fraternise with us common folk, does he? But to be honest, we hardly ever go up to that level. I wouldn't feel comfortable on that level. I feel comfortable on down here

at the coalface battling away, Ben. Don't ever put me up there. There's no plans to put you up there, mate. Better radio stations are up there. Yeah, all right. Well, enjoy the podcast. That was us being flummoxed by a meeting like Hosking in the flesh.

And have a great day. Jono and Ben, or as they're known in the office, those two. Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast on the hits. Now we feel right now this is a very important conversation to have. And it's in relation to the Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry. Which of course brought to light the fact that Meghan was battling with her mental health. These are the thoughts that I'm having in the middle of the night that are very clear. Clarification.

And I'm scared because this is very real they said my heart goes out to you because i see how bad it is but there's nothing we can do to protect you because you're not a paid employee of the institution so to receive no help at all and to be told continuously this is how it is this is just how it is we've all been through it we had to find a solution yes it's uh it's harrowing to hear, isn't it? Poor lady was obviously in a dark place and there's a huge amount of people supporting Harry and Meghan and there's a group of people also

as well, I guess you could say publicly shaming them. Yes, and minimising what she had to say and saying she's an actor and all that sort of stuff. And it's important to go and to acknowledge that you can disagree with them, but there's a difference between disagreeing and bullying, isn't there? Oh yeah, especially when someone's mental health has been talked about. And we want to bring someone onto the show right now, a friend of the show, Jazz Thornton.

She's a mental health activist. She's the founder of Voices of Hope. She's got a documentary about her story out called Girl on the Bridge. Jazz, how are you going this morning? You alright? Yeah, I'm good, thank you. How are you? Good, lovely to have you on, Jazz. Now, you actually have a rather personal connection to this morning. You alright? Yeah, I'm good, thank you. How are you? Good, lovely to have you on, Chas. Now, you actually have a rather personal connection to this interview. Yes, I do. On a number of levels. Oh yes, because you met Megan and Harry when they were in New Zealand a couple of years ago. Yeah, I've done a few things with them since as well so I've kind of got to know them, not extensively, but I've

got to know their character quite well would you have their email would you uh you know could you direct message them i have a team's email but not not not like a flick a text kind of thing yeah well there's more email than i have so how did you find them when you were dealing with them because you sat down with them the first time you met them in wellington uh and you talked about mental health with them yeah they were super genuine down to Wellington and you talked about mental health with them. Yeah, they were super genuine down to earth. I remember when they walked in, we thought we were going to have to stand up and

all of these things and they were like, no, no, don't stand up. We're just going to sit down and they kept trying to get moved on because obviously they only had a short amount of time but they were like, no, this is important. We need to talk about this and so we spent a long time talking about mental health and funnily enough, online bullying and the concept of attention seeking, which has come up now with this interview.

So they were super lovely, super genuine, really passionate and caring. Well, it's obviously something that publicly has been close to Harry's heart. He's the patron of a lot of mental health foundations, many of them, but we probably didn't know the struggles Megan was going through. And you posted something online which was quite important, and I think it's not even necessarily in Megan's defence, but a wider community of people dealing with mental health. Yeah, I think I saw a lot of stuff that has stemmed from,

I believe it was Piers Morgan's interview about it, where he said, I don't believe Megan was actually suicidal. She's just an attention seeker. And then a whole lot of people were making similar comments to that, to which I just kind of responded and was like, Megan Markle, everyone else on Twitter and social media saying these things, Megan Markle's not going to see your comments, but the people who will are your kids, your friends, your family who are battling suicidal thoughts.

And right now you've just silenced them. You're not just talking about Megan. You're talking about anyone close to you that's experiencing that. And if you want to know why our suicide statistics are so bad, take a look at that first. I found an interesting stance from Piers Morgan. Obviously, he has mentioned disagreeing, but he's been disagreeing with him for many years now. But, you know, when the topic of racism and suicide comes up, he almost doubled down on his stance,

which I don't know if it was the correct thing to do. Oh, I don't think it was the correct thing to do at all. Like, I understand that, obviously, his whole profile is built on, you know, going against and speaking up about whatever he thinks, but there's a very big difference between that and enabling a culture in which it makes people feel like the world is better off without them in it and enables a culture where we silence people with mental illness. Because we're saying constantly that we are in this epidemic of suicide and everyone's

asking the questions, what can we do? What can we do? What can we do? And then you're doing that. If you're enabling that kind of culture, then you're part of the problem. Yeah. So our job as human beings, as New Zealanders as well, I guess what you're doing that, if you're enabling that kind of culture, then you're part of the problem. Yeah. So our job as human beings, as New Zealanders as well, I guess what you're saying is make sure that everyone feels safe

to speak out when they're having these problems, that they feel like they're in a comfortable space, and then they'll get their help, right? Yeah, exactly. And I think if we can encourage people to, especially during this time, to ensure that they are reaching out. And also, if you hear people saying things or see things online about them just being like, especially Megan or anything like that, being an attention seeker or that

they're lying about suicidal thoughts, then be the kind of person as well that comments or stands up and be like, oh, actually, I don't think that's okay because otherwise it's just silenced and the other voice is not heard. And we want people to feel safe enough to speak up. That's really important. Oh, good on you, Jazz. You're a good human being, Jazz. And I really appreciate your time this morning. If you want any more info on that,

you can visit Jazz and Jen's website, thevoicesofhope.org. Also, you can text to any young people listening. You're more than welcome to text 5626 to get any assistance there. And also another number two is 1737 to deal with professional counsellors. Thanks for your time, Jazz. No worries, thanks for having me.

Morning, this show contains traces of Jono and Ben. The Hits with Jono and Ben for breakfast. Very exciting day for New Zealand because the America's Cup starts today. Feels like it's been a while coming to see Team Emirates Team New Zealand out there on the water, but it's happening this afternoon.

And I know a lot of talk around the actual America's Cup, but we're also racing for the old mug, aren't we? Yeah. I'm on a boat. I'm on a boat. I'm on a boat. And I don't like my word. Fantastic.

Fantastic. Yeah, we've got our own little race that we're going to start for the radio show. Yeah, a cup race, because they call the America's Cup the old mug. So we thought we'd find a couple of old mugs from the office here. Yeah, we've got some skinny mugs from our friends at Skinny who are friends of the show. And we'll write our names on it. So there'll be a Jono Cup and a Ben Cup. And we need someone or two people right now who are listening to the show in the South Islands.

Yeah, because this is going to act as the start line. So if you, let's say, from Queenstown down. Yeah, if you go Invercargill, Dunedin, wherever around there, somewhere deep south, give us a call. That will act as the start line for either of us. So we'll take two calls next. Ben, for example, will get one call. You might start in Invercargill.

I'll get one. I might start in Dunedin. Have a little advantage. Go over that start line a little earlier. And it's the first mug, the first cup to end back here. They'll win. We've got a $250 shopping voucher. Yeah, so we'll post it down to you. It needs to get down to you. We'll give you a self-addressed

envelope to send it right back to us. The first one to get there and back will win the cup race. Next, we'll find out where our mugs are going. And a full flight! My word! Fantastico! Fantastico! I love it. It is Jono and Ben's cup race right now. We've got a couple

of old mugs from around the office. We've written Jono and Ben on our mug each and we want to see the races to send it from our studios here in Auckland down the country, down south. Each mug will go to a different place. The person who gets the mug has to take a photo, put it back in the envelope that we provide and send it

back up to Auckland to us. First mug back, that person wins a $250 shopping voucher. Come on team of five million, who wants to be burdened with having to post a parcel back to us? Tell you, no matter who wins, the only real winner is New Zealand Post because they're going to have two things to deliver this week.

That's great. So, Jono, who's going to go first? I'll take first call. I'll take first call. Hello, The Hits. Who have we got here? G'day, mate. It's Chris. How you doing? Chris. Okay. Now, this is the start line. This is my start line in the South Island for our cup race.

Please don't be too far down the island, Chris. Whereabouts are you? I'm in Te Anau. Ooh, okay. We've gone deep. Unless Ben gets sort of an Invercargill bluff situation next. Te Anau. Okay, I'm starting from Te Anau.

Okay, so you've got to post it after the show. Chris, are you okay to take a photo of that when it arrives and send it back in the envelope we provide? Yeah, sure. Why not? He sounds shaky. You do not sound like a safe pair of hands, Chris. Well, I didn't know that I had to do something for this competition.

We're going to provide you with the courier post to send it back to us. That's fine. Oh, you want me to do something? I thought maybe you'd just give me some KFC. You're up for a $250 shopping voucher if your mug gets back here first, alright? What am I going to buy in PR now? When did we ever mention fried

chicken? And no stage through this process if we said free chicken. He's fighting up on KFC. Surely he can spend it on fried chicken. Anyway, that's your one. This is a shocking teammate here. Have I been barking? Okay, so I'm under the hits right now.

Someone else in the South Island? Okay, this is your start line. This is my start line. Welcome to New Zealand's breakfast. Who do we have on the phone? Hello, it's Tanya. Oh, welcome, Tanya. Tanya, whereabouts in New Zealand are you?

In Christchurch. Oh, yes's Tanya. Oh, welcome, Tanya. Tanya, whereabouts in New Zealand are you? In Christchurch. Oh, yes, Tanya. That's closer than Jono's cup used to go. He's crossed the start line first. It's a lot closer. Oh, jeez. And now I'm just looking here, seven hours, 48 minutes drive between the two.

Oh, between the two cups? Between Tiano and, oh, my God, huge advantage, Tanya. I tell you what, you could be spending $250 on fried chicken, apparently. Or wherever you want to spend it. Yeah, I hope so. Alright, Tanya, are you a safe pair of hands? I'm putting a lot of faith in you. Yes, yes, I've

got my daughter that can help me take a photo and send it, yep. Oh, it needs daughters to help take the photo. I like it, I like it good. She's, you know, she's job sharing, it's great. Okay, alright, well definitely you know, she's job sharing. It's great. Okay. All right. Well, definitely you've got a huge advantage here. Can Chris still hear me?

Is Chris still there? No, I don't think he is. Ben Humphrey is organising behind the scenes. While Chris is talking to Ben Humphrey, what of, oh God. He might come through here.

He doesn't sound like he's going. Does he sound like someone who's going to come through for you? He sounds like the me. He sounds like me. Oh, we'll see what happens. We'll follow this over the next few days as well as the America's Cup is going on. Our Cup race. Which old mug will make it down the country and back in time? Will it be Jono's? Will it be Ben's? Will you care? Who knows?

We apologise in advance. Sorry about that. Sorry about him. Sorry to rope you into this. Sorry you've been dragged into this. Jono and Ben. Breakfast on the heads. The heads. The heads. The heads. Now, this is very exciting. Barbie have released a brand new, basically every year they look for a role model here in New Zealand and they design a Barbie doll in this person's honour.

And this year it's been bestowed upon designer Karen Walker and she joins us in the studio right now. Karen, thanks so much for coming in. This is exciting. Nice to meet you too. Thank you for having me. Karen, can I front for this and say you're far too sophisticated and good for this programme.

Do you know what show you're on? So you've got your very own Barbie doll made to look exactly like you. We've got it in the studio right now. That must be so surreal for you. Yes, having yourself as a Barbie is completely surreal. Yeah, I highly recommend it. How does this come about?

Does Barbie phone you and say, hey, I've got an opportunity. You're a business person. How does it happen? More or less, Barbie did phone me and say, I have a great honour to bestow upon you. Would you accept? Pretty awesome because you're seen as a role model

for empowerment of Kiwi girls. So that must be like a tremendous honour. Yeah, and that's what the Barbie Shiro campaign is all about, that every year they honour between five and ten women as Barbies because of what they stand for and what they can show young people, what's possible in a career path or a life path. So did you get to design, because obviously being a designer, did you get to design your Barbie doll with the clothes and everything

and the glasses and the earrings and the jewellery? Yes, yes. Barbie, little Karen, as we call her, is wearing all Karen Walker at miniature size, Barbie size. All items that are available in store right now, but also items that are kind of iconic to us, like high-waisted flared jeans, trench coat, lots of glasses. She's got three or four pairs of glasses.

Oh, really? Yeah. Different outfit. I was actually reading, is this true that your first design experience as a kid was designing an outfit for your own Barbie? That's completely true. I had Malibu Barbie, I think the classic, most iconic Barbie.

But, you know, I was a child of the 70s, so that was the Barbie you had to have. And my grandmother taught me how to make a skirt for her, let's say a circular skirt. That was my first moment about the age of six of going, oh, I can have an idea and execute it and have a finished product that actually looks really good. Yeah, that was a really significant moment for me

in my development as a designer, going, oh, I can have an idea and execute it. And is it surreal now that you've got your own Barbie years later? It's kind of full circle now. Yeah, that's amazing. How many people in the world have had this? 50. 50.

Wow, you're in a select group. Who else? Well, last year was Dame Valerie Adams, before that Black Fern Melody Robinson. Yes, I'm the third New Zealander. It's a very select group. And on Barbie's birthday, it was announced Barbie 62. Barbie is 62.

Yeah. Looking great. She looks great. I think the plastic might be helping her out. I could do with what some of Barbie's got. I was reading the remarkable people that have been wearing your outfits over the years. We've got people from Adele, Michelle Obama, Lady Gaga, Rihanna. Do you know

these celebrities are going to be wearing your outfit or are you surprised when suddenly they're on the red carpet wearing something you made? Yes and no. With Michelle Obama, we worked closely with her and her stylist and tailors to create an outfit for her. In fact, she was wearing the same, she wore the jeans that little

Karen Barbies wear. So yeah, we worked with her and her tailor and stylist to create an outfit for her. In fact, she was wearing the same, she wore the jeans that little Karen Barbie's wearing. Oh, really? Yeah. So, yeah, we'd worked with her and her tailor and stylist to actually create that look for her for her book tour. But then other times it's completely unexpected, like when LeBron James started wearing our glasses, we had no idea he even had any. Wow.

So, you know, it's come from anywhere. And you just hope he paid recommended retail value, retail price. I can only assume he did. Yeah, I hope so. But that's an honour. That's something you've created. Yes, it is.

Yeah, and so they obviously are stocked overseas or is LeBron doing some online shopping? I expect he went into Barney's or somewhere. Bought a self-fit. I guess so. That's incredible. I don't know. I've never had the opportunity to ask him.

Now, being so fashionable and dealing with fashion, do you feel pressure when you're like, could you go to the supermarket in your pyjamas and slippers, for example? Naturally. Like, can you do that? You're like, I'm off duty, I'm off the clock. Or do you feel like, oh, I'm Karen Walker, I need to be looking a little bit fashionable? I do feel

the pressure to, you know, walk out of the house fully dressed and with shoes on. She's all wandering around like you do in the supermarket naked. But I'm not always totally dolled up. I have been known to go out in shabby sneakers and a T-shirt with a hole in it. It does happen. I heard about that, Dave.

That went around. It was a low point. It was. Now, Carol, we've got some fashion items that we would like to ask you of whether you think they're hot or not. With Karen Walker. Now, I've got Karen Walker in the studio.

The 2021 role model for Barbie in New Zealand this year. Okay, the first one. Crocs, hot or not? Yeah, I know that with a certain generation, they're very hot. I was horrified a couple of years ago. I was in New York and we went, we drove upstate with friends to pick up their daughter from summer camp and all the 14, 15, 16 year olds were wearing Crocs.

Yeah. I was like, oh my God, that's a thing. Fashionable, yeah. I guess that's the thing about fashion. I mean, you've been riding out the same fashion since. Yeah, I'm still wearing a t-shirt from the 90s. Same t-shirt. Okay, well then that was.

I'll be sticking to my Birkenstocks. Okay, Birkenstocks. Okay. Holes in jeans. Only if they're real. Oh, okay. Only if they're earned. Not if they come like that from the factory.

I'm very... I have a very... I'm very... But that's the fashion, isn't it? Yeah, you buy them. I think you've got to earn them. You've got to earn yourself. You've got to fall on those knees.

Okay. Double denim. Oh, yeah, yeah. You've got to earn yourself. You've got to fall on those knees. Double denim. Oh, yeah, yeah. Double denim is fine. Okay. How about shoes with no socks? Totally fine. Totally fine.

Yeah, I'm okay with that. Face masks. Totally fine. Right now, totally fine. Very involved. You probably have. Have you got a range of face masks? We have done in the past.

Not doing anything right now. Okay. And hot or not, Ben? past. Not doing anything right now. Okay. And hot or not? Ben. Oh. That's bullying. Yes, it is bullying. And it is the backbone of our career.

Why didn't you say something mean? Say something complimentary. She could have said your answer without saying it. I haven't earned the holes in my denim jacket. No, I'm manufactured. There we go. Well, then I'm going to land him in the not category. And I won't even ask about me.

I'm too scared. Hey, Karen Walker, congratulations. What an absolute honour to be bestowed on you that you're the 2021 role model for Barbie this year. And thank you for coming on our show. Yeah, we really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. So nice to meet you.

My wife was so excited that Karen Walker was coming to the studio today. So that's very cool. I was more excited than his wife. To everyone pulling a sickie today, you're not fooling anyone. Jono and Ben, breakfast on the hits. We've spoken about this a few times before where I get mocked, you know, for my love of things that are children's things. Children's like your Toy Story 4 backpack.

Yeah, my smuggle wallet Things like that You'd be mocking me Velcro wallet No I don't mock you I just bring it to everyone's attention Is it mocking Juliet? Um Someone gave you a shout out

For your Toy Story bag Yesterday Yeah people do Every time we walked down the road Everyone was like Hey nice bag mate I used to have my little pony one Before that

And they were like Is it the kids one? And I'm like No it's mine But Well no one ever saw it I love that you're doubling down on the children's merch as well

it's great if you go to like I find if you go to like a bar or something like that you put your bag down no one's ever going to grab it well because they're like

I'm not going to steal from a child you're not going to take a child's bag what's in there colouring books and stuff like that colouring pencils

yeah no so it's great a juice bottle I feel there's a bit of security. But at home, my wife, you know, I've got a few figurines. Some people love buying sort of things, you know, like knickknacks and things to put on their shelves and nice little vases and things like that to put up in the lounge.

Not really my thing, you know. I don't really go and do those. I've just got some, you know, I've got some Simpsons figurines. I've got a Toy Store figurine. I think they call those people adults who buy that stuff and put it on their show. I've got a LeBron James

little pop vinyl little thing. I've got a lot of things, a Deadpool, Sweer Joe, you know, I've got these things. You've got stuff that would be in an eight-year-old boy's bedroom.

Yeah. Yeah, right. And your figurines, I remember you mentioning last year that they were mysteriously disappearing. They keep disappearing. Now, what I've noticed now

over the weekend, my wife had a bit of a, you know, she had a bit of a clean up, you know, cleaned up some stuff. And we have, in our lounge, we have eight shelves. There's like a bookcase-y thing with eight shelves. Now, my figurines were spread amongst the eight shelves, amongst, you know, family photos and bits and pieces

and, you know, the plants and that. Or to just try and disguise the fact that they were figurines. They were just everywhere. They were spread amongst on display. But now I try and disguise the fact that they were figurines. They were just everywhere. The sweater now it's on display but now I've been told I have one shelf. One shelf was my shelf.

I've been told by my wife Amanda it's one shelf and it's not even prime real estate it's the up high one to the side

you can hardly see it and now that's my shelf now the figurines are allowed to live there as many as I want but all on the one shelf. I mean, once you've got a front row of figurines, you can't see the ones in behind.

That's all I get. I think she's trying to hide them from the general public. You think so? I hope not. One shelf, one shelf. I know there's seven other shelves here in a relationship. Maybe, just in Amanda's defence, she's like, oh, maybe I'll give them one shelf. They get better impact because they're all

in one place and everyone's like oh there's some figurines and then they zero in on them but I think you know in a relationship you try and keep

things 50-50 I'm like surely I'm entitled to four out of the eight shelves if we're going to start I thought it was all in we all shared the shelves but now that I've got

allocated one shelf I'm not happy about it did Amanda know this information about your figurine collection before you asked her to marry you? And if she didn't know, do you think it would have she would have reconsidered her decision?

I think she might have thought it was like a younger sister's. I don't think we ever were like, probably the details were murky about who owned the figurines before that. I might not have been completely transparent. And then when they popped up on a prime real estate shelf questions were asked

yeah so you're saying that prime real estate I shouldn't be offended by this or not listen you've got I mean you should be lucky you've still got shelf space

to be honest you should be lucky there's still Juliet yeah I'm at the manor on this one my gosh okay if your boyfriend moves in with a whole bunch of

oh I'd burn them no I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Oh, wow, okay. Here we go. I'm kidding, I'd never do that. She's giving my wife ideas now. Because you keep pulling them out of the recycling bin.

Want more Jono and Ben? You can catch up with the boys anytime. Just search Jono and Ben on Instagram. Plenty to talk about still today. It's day two of the coverage, the rolling coverage. The rolling coverage of Megan and Harry Cochie. I'm getting exhausted of the rolling coverage. And we're not talking

as much today, but obviously if you just missed it before, the Palace have responded with an official statement, basically saying that they're very saddened to hear about the situation. There is obviously these things that they, the recollections that may be different between, but either way, they're very sorry about the situation.

They want to deal with it behind closed doors. That's a summary, I guess. Maybe the doors could be open. You want some airflow in the room. You know, you've got 20 people. Open a window. Sure, the aircon's quite nice. Does the door have to be closed?

But we wanted to open up something of this Megan and Harry issue. And does your partner not get along with your family? Is it awkward? How do you navigate your way through that? When did it happen? And how do you avoid any interactions between your partner and your family? Because I imagine it'd be quite difficult.

Well, yeah, this whole thing is, and when you boil it down between Megan and Harry and the Royals, it's just one big family disagreement. And it's horrible to have it aired out all over the media, all over the world with, you know, them going on Oprah saying this thing and then them responding and all that. Yeah, it's a pretty messy, horrible situation.

I mean, it does no matter how rich and famous your family is, every family has issues. I mean, if we were airing our family issues on international television, it would be Ben's mum going, you never call me. And he's like, I'm sure I've called her once. She just doesn't answer the phone. My mum going, you could wear nicer clothes. Ben's kids going, can you stop recording us around the house for radio bits?

Those would be our big issues. Those are some of the issues going on. But you're right, there is a lot of families around where some partners don't end up hanging out with the other family and that's just the way it is. It's life. Your family all get laundry? Yeah, pretty much actually. You don't want to air their laundry?

No. We're quite lucky. We're doing basically what they're doing on national radio. I'm just thinking about this now. Come hear your laundry on the radio. Hang it on our washing line. But maybe everyone's good with it. You know, a lot of times people go, oh, listen, we're just not two people who would ever get along.

So let's just avoid being in the same room together. Yeah, and you don't need to mention names and you don't need to mention who you are if you want to get involved in this conversation. As you say, Jono, maybe you're fine. Maybe it's for the best and things just carry on and that's just the way it is. Because family, you know, you can't choose your

family. That's what people say. So, it doesn't mean you have to get along with your family. What if I'm adopting? Wouldn't I be able to choose my family then? Oh, I don't know. I don't know how the adoption process works. What if I'm going over to maybe a third world country? I'm like, oh Oh, I don't know. I don't know how the adoption process works. What if I'm going over

to maybe a third world country and I'm like, oh yeah, I'll take a couple of kids. I don't know if you get to choose the actual. Oh yeah,

still not a choice. I don't know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I was just wondering if there was a hole in there saying that we've abided by

for so many years. Okay, 0800 the hits. Does your partner not get along with your family? As being mentioned, we don't have to mention names

and we'd love to get your calls and texts. 4487 on the text, 0800 at the hits. We'll go to you in Wellington. Welcome. Good morning. You're not getting along with your whānau? Nope.

I'm an orphan. That's sad. What happened? Well, it's my mum's funeral. And they were highly disrespectful of her and my other sister. So I just haven't spoken to them since. You haven't spoken to who? Your sisters? My three other sisters, yeah.

For how long? Oh, it'll be over 13 years. Oh my gosh. How did you leave it with them? Just turned my back and walked away. Do you feel sad about that or do you now go, well, that's just the way it is and I'm just carrying on with my life and I'm better for it? It's just the way it is.

I mean, they obviously have issues that I don't agree with and what's the point of making a big argument about it? We're never going to agree. Sometimes that just happens. Yeah, you only get one mum in life, so... But the same could be said, you only get one family in life too, so you could reconcile.

Yeah, but I had a beautiful sister for a long time until she passed away, so that's just how that is. Now, I'm going to pitch this out here, and I wouldn't be doing my duty as a soulless radio announcer. Shall we call them after 7.30? Get a reconciliation.

I wouldn't even know their phone number. You can find them. You're welcome. What if we said we've got your sisters on the phone now? I'd go, oh, crap. Cutting out. Cutting out. I can't hear you.

Thank you so much for sharing that. That's very personal, and we do appreciate you coming on the air on New Zealand's Breakfast, okay? Oh, good. You look after yourself. We'll go to Lisa. And Christchurch, how are you? I'm good, how are you?

You're good, thank you very much. There's a bit of a rift in your family? Yes and no. My partner and I, his mum took an instant disliking to me. Oh, right, so you and the mother-in-law don't get along. Oh, no, no, not at all. My partner and I, his mum took an instant disliking to me. Oh, right. So you and the mother-in-law don't get along? No, no, not at all.

I ended up sitting in the car for two hours on Christmas Day waiting for him to have his Christmas family thing and we could, you know, find. Did they bring you out a plate or? No, no. Did they do a cracker through the window or anything? No. No, no, no. See, I'm not even allowed on the property,

so I had to park out next to the park and wait for him. Jeez. Why did she take a disliking to you, do you think? So I'm not a great cook. And she really disliked the fact that I didn't do much cooking. Who's his mum, Nadia Lim or something? I don't know, but she's very old-fashioned. And, yeah, so she had a go at me once, and my partner ended up having a go at her in return.

And there were a lot of tears and she doesn't want to apologize. Now, it must be a very awkward situation for your partner as well, like, yeah, yeah, to be stuck in the middle. It is horrible and I feel so terrible for him. I have been doing my best, like, for about half a year. I didn't go in there at all. I wouldn't go on the property.

And then we had lots of talks about it at our house. And in the end, I was like, right, well, this is a big deal for you. You're really close with your family. I'm going to push myself past my boundaries, past my uncomfortable limits, and just start going back in. And yeah, it's a slow going. Oh, good on you for trying to take those steps and, you know, and realising that obviously

there is a connection there with your partner because that's very big of you to do that. So good on you. Well, he's the one that matters to me. And if that's what matters to him, then I will do it. Oh, you are an angel. Thank you very much for your call.

Really appreciate you sharing that. And we'll take one more, eh? There's a lot of people phoning through for this one. Your partner not getting along with your whānau or you're not getting along with your partner's whānau.

You're on from Auckland. G'day, guys. How are you? We're doing well. What happened with you? My family more or less disowned me because I'm in a same-sex relationship.

Oh, that is terrible. Yeah, and plus they're quite racist as well, so there's quite a lot of tension. And my partner, she's so, so supportive. And her mother's always like, oh, you don't need that family. You've got us as family and everything else. Oh, it's nice you've got that.

But it's very sad that that situation's happened, you know. It is hard because, you know, the family gatherings and everything else and I don't get to hear any news about, like I didn't find out about my grandmother passing away until it was in the paper and it's like, well, hello. You know how close I was. I mean, coming out, too, I imagine you'd be full of anxiety revealing that news to your family anyway, and then to have that reaction would just be devastating.

Yeah. The funny thing is, too, is that my current partner, I've been with her for 11 years now, and she's the first female I've ever been with that's always been males, and I was married, and I left my husband for her, and that's a real big disgrace, divorcing my husband at the time for a female, and yeah. Well, you've got to be happy with yourself and your life and you know what you are and you've got to be true to yourself.

So again, thank you so much for phoning up and sharing. Everybody. No, all good. We do appreciate it. Tell you what, we haven't done a topic like that before. Yeah. That was real stuff there, Ben. It's sad to hear these situations,

but a lot of people are seeing, I guess, the positives. Yeah, and it's no matter if you're in the royal family or you're in Rimutaka, everyone's got their issues. Every family's got their issues, and it's never nice. Yeah, yeah, nah. Yeah, nah. Yeah, nah. The home of yeah, nah.

She'll be right, and at the end of the day... Jono and Ben, breakfast on the hits. Five words for 5k on the hits. You're only five words away from a massive payday. It is our game of word association. We play it every day at 7.45. Five words for $5,000. If you match your words with our five words, you win five grand.

Yes, and just on Monday, absolute jubilation. John O'Friar, the final word today in five words for 5K is... Purple. There's one that's just floating around in my head. It's a Prince song. Purple Rain. So what? Mel, you have won $1,000.

Went from five out of five to zero out of five yesterday. Okay, Bunnings. Warehouse. Okay, 12. 13. University. Scholarship. Celebrity.

Treasure Island. There we go. It's like Rafael Nadal winning the Australian Tennis Open one day and then losing the first round of the Thai Huppie Tennis Open the next. Yeah, back down to earth with a thud. But we'll try and give it a go again today. Right now for five grand for someone who we got on the line. Morena Chanel, you're on from Auckland, matey.

Hello, how are you guys? Oh, listen, doing well, Chanel. How's your morning going? Yeah, not too bad. I've got the kids in the bed next to me. We've just got up. Oh, do you guys listen as a family to Five Words every morning, do you? We have been.

We have been every morning. Fun for the whole family. We've always said that. We've always said that about this game show. Okay, so the kids going to help you out this morning? Yes, they are. Okay, and you're going to pick either Ben or myself to head into the soundproof booth and match Five Words with?

We'd like to go with Ben, please. Oh, he's back in the booth. All right, I'll get it. Dust off the booth. The voice is back in there. It hasn't seen that sweet little skeleton for a few days. Now Chanel as he's locking the door.

You know how it works. We do. The first word that comes into your mind when I say celery as in C-E-L-E-R-Y I'm going to go stick. I do what I think.

We'll go stick. Alright, quick answer. First off the bat. Camel. There's a couple. I've got... What am I doing? I'm saying bag, like drink bottle camel bag. Or I'm thinking hunt.

It wasn't the first word that came into my mind when I heard camel. And I'm embarrassed to admit that. You're going to go hub? You're going to go hub? Which one do you think is? Oh, this one. You're saying camel go hump? Which one do you think is? Oh, this one. You think we're back? It's a tough one.

Don't put the pressure on me. It's a tough word. The whole family's having a meeting about it. It is. I think we'll go hump. You think we'll go hump? Yep. You're going to lock in hump?

We'll lock in hump, yep. Yep. Again, not the word I landed on, but we'll move on to the third word. Hemisphere. Hemisphere. Planet? Are you doing a planet?

Or world? A world hemisphere? They're, like, looking at me very baffled because this is a big word for them. It's a big word for anyone. These are difficult words today, I'll be honest, Chanel. They are difficult words.

We'll go world. World, okay. The fourth word, language. English. And the fifth, the fifth and final word for you, Chanel, to win $5,000. Yes. Excited.

Excited. Should we go happy? Happy? Yeah, we'll go happy. You're locking in happy. There you go. There's your five words. I tell you what, you were in the trenches there, you poor thing.

You were high, wasn't I? Producer Humphrey went to some deep, dark places of the dictionary to get those words and confuse you. But we'll bring Brent out of the soundproof booth. Come on out. He's getting the nod from Millennial Max and his flawless, flawless complexion. You've got wonderful skin, Max. It's very beautiful.

And so do you too, Ben. Now, Chanel, tough words today, I won't lie. They were. There's a couple that could be a few answers, that's for sure. That's not what I wanted to hear, but I'll give it my best. Oh, no, okay. Well, Chanel, you did really well, and if you lose, you'll be letting down the team

of five million. Oh, no pre-spend. I'll try my best, Chanel. And the kids, the kids are in the bed too. Can we hear the kids just to add that in? Hello. Hello. Listen to their sweet voice. Hello, I want I'll try my best now. And the kids, the kids are in the bed too. Can we hear the kids just to add that in? Yeah. Hello. Hello. Listen to their sweet voice.

Hello, I want $5,000. Come on, man. Your daughter, Ben. Oh, jeez, okay. Personal touch on this one. Just really ram it home. I thought you said, it's your daughter, Ben. What a way to find out.

During a quirky game. Let's give me the first payment he makes. First child support payment. Here we go. Word number one. Celery. Celery spelt C-E-L-E-R-Y.

Oh, as in... Yeah, okay. Stick. You're doing it for the kids, mate. Yeah, I'm trying. Camel. Thank you. Is it?

Okay. Think of the word that I would come up with. Yeah. Yeah. And what? And I'll give you a clue. Chanel didn't come up with that word. Okay.

I'll go with hump. Whoa. Did you come up with toe? I didn't say anything. Okay, sorry, I didn't know. I actually came up with desert. I didn't hear anything. I was in the booth. Okay, third word.

Hemisphere. Ooh. Ooh, it's a 50-50 on this one for me. Hemisphere. Oh. Oh, it's a 50-50 on this one for me. Southern. Was the other Northern? Yes. Yeah, no, they went World. Ah.

Chanel, it started strong. You played a good game. And probably some of the toughest words we've come across. So well done to you and the kids. Thank you so much for listening in your bed there this morning. Snuggle up. Keep warm. What was the last two words?

Oh, that's right. Good to know. Language. Ooh. Tadaya. English. And excited. Happy.

Ooh, three out of five. Not bad. Not bad. Good on you. Thank you for listening to Chanel. You go and have a great day. Add these two men together and somehow you get three quarters worth of a normal dad.

The Hits with Jono and Ben for breakfast. Bye. Brought to you by the Rainbow Explorer train. Getting you to Wellington's Pride Festival. More info at thehits.co.nz. I never know when to come in with that. Sorry. Sorry about that.

Here is three minutes of the program of us offering our opinion about famous people who couldn't care less about our opinion. Juliet, come on down. Some juicy, juicy goss. Now, Piers Morgan is one of the big sort of television hosts, talk show hosts that is very against Meghan and Harry. He's always been very against Meghan and Harry, always been very public about it. And he, when the interview came out of Harry and Meghan, he went in all guns blazing.

He went on a bit of a rampage on their morning breakfast show yesterday, didn't he? Harry just lets his wife trash his family, portraying them as a bunch of ruthless, bullying... Hang on, hang on. No, sorry. They're also very positive about the Queen.

The Queen's lovely, but we hate everything she stands for. And he has then got into a bit of an argument with one of his other co-hosts overnight for our time. And since then,

this was live on television, he stormed off the set. Since then, they have released a statement, ITV. Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has now decided it is a good time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add. The audio of him storming off, have you got that handy, Janette? His co-host was having a crack at him. You've got a personal relationship with Meg Markle,

or had one, and she cut you off. She's entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don't think she has, but yet you continue to trash her. Okay, I'm done with this. No, no, no. Sorry, no. Do you know what?

That's pathetic. You can track her, mate, but not my own. No, no, no. I'm being serious. Sorry, I can't do this. This is absolutely diabolical behaviour. The 41,000, over 41,000

complaints about Piers Morgan yesterday, that was what he said on the show. And that's people that know who he is and know what he's about, going, oh, Piers will go, you know, that's a lot. So he stormed out of there and then resigned. Since then, has resigned. Do you think it was just a good play to get out of work early?

I mean, it was only quarter to eight in the morning over there. Well, it's kind of interesting because he's naturally against Megan and Harry and has been very vocal about that. And, you know, to an extent, obviously, totally fine to be vocal about your thoughts on these topical issues. But I think we all wondered, is he sort of just playing a character now that he's committed to this side of the story? He can't go back, yeah. He can't go back. So he's obviously not, you know, it's just playing a character now that he's committed to this side of the story. He can't go back, yeah.

He can't go back. So he's obviously not, you know, it's not just a character. And it's a bit hard to publicly take that stance too, particularly when messages like suicide and racism are brought into the conversation. Totally. And you're doubling down on your stance. I know, I know.

And so goodbye, Piers Morgan. He's been on Good Morning Britain since 2015, so that's six years in that role. Seems like he's been there a lot longer, but it's probably because we just hear so much about him, basically. Well, thank you for that, Jude. That was Spine Broadcasting Live. And mostly away.

Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast. On the hits. Don't be afraid of your freedom. The hits live free. Bill's edition. Let's smash another one. I got bills If you've got some bills that you want to be paid

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You could be living free Like Harry was up until he divorced his family. Listen, we're going to go to... Where are we going to go down through to here, Ju? What part of New Zealand? I don't know what part of New Zealand, actually. It just has her name and her number and what her bill is for. I like this mysterious part of New Zealand we're heading to right now.

We'll find out first question you're going to ask whereabouts in New Zealand, are you? Yeah, you can send us your bill, and then we'll send your bill on to someone else to deal with in the accounting department. This is a great promotion, this. Hello? Where are you? Excuse me, what do you mean, where am I?

Where are you? Whereabouts in New Zealand are you? First question. Thames? Oh, I like Thames. Okay, all right. Now can we say it's Jono and Ben calling from the Hits radio station? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I know. What's your name? Sharon. Sharon, lovely to have you on the show. How's your morning going? Not too bad. Rank it out of 10. Probably only about a five.

Oh, I tell you what, we're going to chuck another five points onto that scale. Okay. You text in bills to 4487. You had a bill that you were like, I don't really want to pay this. Could you guys pay this for me? Yep. What was the bill? The power bill.

Oh, well, funny to tell you that unfortunately we haven't budgeted to pay your bill. But it's just a, you know. It's a courtesy call. Just call around to everyone saying thanks. No, we're going to pay your bill, but it's just a, you know. It's a courtesy call. Just call around to everyone saying thanks instead. No, we're going to pay your power bill. Awesome. How good's that, eh? Oh, that's freaking awesome.

You turn all the lights on, leave them on. Not a new one. No, not if she goes crazy with power. Oh, the old one. Yeah, the old one. Actually, don't turn all the lights on. Still conserve power. That's on you.

Yeah, we're going to pay that for you. Thanks so much for listening to the hits. That's freaking awesome. Thank you. Can you do a little thing for our promotion ad? What's that? Just go, thanks, thanks, the hits for paying my bill. Say something like that.

Thanks, the hits for paying my bill. Dan, that's textbook stuff. We'll use that. We'll use that in there. Don't you worry about that, Sharon. Thank you. Thank you. And if you want to get your bill paid, just text BILL and what it is to

4487. Real Kiwi blokes with soy lattes. Mmm. Shono and Ben, breakfast on the hits. Wonderful start to the morning this morning. Where we park in the garage. They always have, like, music playing on the speakers. Like a soundtrack, isn't there,

throughout the car park? Oh, yeah, that's actually quite nice. Oh, gee, the song this morning got me out of my car and I had to pep in my step. Brian Adams. Yeah, I recorded it. Can't stop this thing we started. I was like, damn, this is a start to the day. It's actually quite nice because when you're,

especially in the middle of the night, when you're by yourself normally in the car park, you don't really want your footsteps just being like echoing. No, you want the Brian Adams. You want Brian Adams bursting out through the pipes. Great start to the morning. Now, I, late yesterday after the program, was having issues logging in to the work computer.

Now, I know, Juliet, you've spoken about this off air, that trying to reset a work password. It's the worst thing that could exist on this planet. There's no more aggravating moment for a human being than trying to reset a company work password. Nothing is ever good enough. Nothing. No matter how many symbols, backslashes, underscores, caps,

lowercase you use. Nothing is fit. And then when you finally get one, it feels like only three days later, they're like, time to put in a new password. That one's about to expire. It rolls around way too quickly. Yeah. It does.

And like, if a hacker can figure out the multiple percentage signs, dollar signs, uppercase, lowercase, my mother's maiden name, and the 29 numbers I've put onto the password. They deserve to get in. Like, well done to them. They've cracked it. We all enjoyed watching, it was you yesterday, because you couldn't get onto the work Wi-Fi.

Something had happened. And Millennial Max was perfect for this job, being a millennial. So he came around to help you, and he was like, just click on there and just enter in your password and you're away. And you're like, ugh. You can tell you're like, ugh, password. I can't remember what my password is.

Because it leaves you logged in, you know, and then it's requiring you to remember this thing you created six months ago. And you type something in and you're like, you hope that maybe this is the one time, that the first time you type in a password, it's going to be the right one. It's never the right one.

It's never the right one. So I put it in four times. Then you're locked out. Then you get locked out. Oh, yeah. And then you have to call IT and they don't want to deal with that. They want to deal with bigger issues.

I think Michael McIntyre, the comedian, does a great bit about passwords and how they just, it's almost like they shame you. Weak, weak, you type it in. Weak, very weak. All right, mate, I'm putting stuff in. These are my kids' names. They're like, weak.

It's like, all right, stop shaming me. How many passwords do you both have on the go at any one time? Like you're signed up to multiple websites, work computers, the iCloud. I try not to have too many because it is very hard. Have you got one consistent across all? Although my wife, every time I moan about it, she has, there's a thing called LastPass,

which on your computer will remember your password secretly in your LastPass and you just have to log into that. She's like, get LastPass every time I moan about it. Make sure I haven't got LastPass at all, but it's a whole thing that will remember your passwords for you. So you don't have this thing. But I hear her say this every time I moan about it. Make sure I haven't got last pass at all, but it's a whole thing that will remember your passwords for you so you don't have this thing.

But I hear her say this every time, but I refuse to get on it. How many have you got, Ju? I think I've got about four on rotation. I've got like my main one, and then if it's not that, then I'll try my second one, and then I'll try my third one, and then I'll try my fourth one, and if it's not my fourth one, then I'm screwed. Yeah.

I've got like, I didn't have the work one saved, but I've got a convenient document on my desktop, which is called passwords, which has a list of all of my passwords. See, this is why you need my office. I get last pass. You put all your passwords in there and it's safer rather than, oh, here's a document.

Here's a document with passwords and the access to this idiot's entire life. There's ANZ account numbers here as well. Oh, there we go. That's some old people moaning about passwords for you early in the morning. Want more Jono and Ben? You can catch up with the boys anytime. Just search Jono and Ben on Facebook.

Scrolling through your feed. All right, Ben Boyce has been up all night scouring the news feeds and also peering through his neighbour's windows, but we don't like to factor in on that, do we? Don't get a bit freaked out. Now, it's been, well, a little over 24 hours since the big Oprah interview,

and we're not going to bang on about it all show today, but it's still creating a lot of news and a lot of discussions worldwide. We'll do pockets of banging. Yes. We'll bang here, bang there, bit of banging after eight, and we won't saturate.

Yesterday was a saturation. Well, yeah, it was fun. It was the after eight, and we won't saturate. Yesterday was a saturation. Well, yeah, it was fun. It was the big news, and it still is the big news. It's very hard to find other stuff that isn't dominating the news headlines all over the world. But we talked yesterday about Piers Morgan, who is, I guess he's quite a controversial presenter, TV presenter, journalist in the UK. We liken him to the Mike Hosking of England. Yeah, he's on The breakfast show over there on the TV and he's very, very opinionated

and I guess that's his job to wind things up. And he's, for many, many years, he seems to really hate Meghan and Harry. Now, I think the history is that he used to have a relationship with Meghan Markle,

Piers Morgan, and... Like a friendship. A friendship, sorry, yeah. And she cut him off. Cut him off. And he thought it was because she didn't think he was good enough to be her friend anymore. So he's taken deep offense to this and spent maybe three or four years going in on her.

And you kind of get that every time there's a story about it. He really, like, comments on it. But then yesterday he was making some comments. And this is off the back of her, you know, feeling suicidal, you know, having mental lows. A lot of people all over the world were calling him out saying that, you know, maybe this is not the time to be doing this, Piers. You know, obviously she's really suffering. Even his co-host on the show yesterday called him out as well,

and Piers Morgan didn't like that. You've got a personal relationship with Meg Markle or had one, and she cut you off. She's entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about one and she cut you off. She's entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don't think she has, but yet you continue to trash her. Okay, I'm done

with this. No, no, no. Sorry. Do you know what? That's pathetic. You can trash me, mate, but not my own dog. No, no, no. I'm being... Sorry. Can't do this. This is absolutely diabolical behaviour. He's stormed out. I love a TV walkout. Jeez, you don't get any better television, do you?

But interesting. I mean, he would rip into someone else if they walked out mid-argument, if he was arguing them. Well, I suppose he's had 20... Have you got the original audio that he said yesterday, Juliet? Mm-hmm. Have a listen to this. This is him yesterday, fresh off the documentary.

He was fired up. Harry just lets his wife trash his family, portraying them as a bunch of ruthless, bullying, racist... No, sorry. I'm not going to hold on. They're also very positive about the Queen. The Queen's lovely, but we hate everything she stands for. Is it hell? That's not

why they left. They left because they didn't fancy doing Wednesday Royal Duty. They fancied living in an $11 million California mansion. They've got everything they wanted. They've got hundreds of millions of dollars. They've got their happy family. They fancy living in an $11 million California mansion. They've got everything they wanted. They've got hundreds of millions of dollars. They've got their happy family.

They've got their celebrity chums. And yet they're still whining. So that was him yesterday and he just, he's been, not the victim, but he's been taken on by social media

for the last 24 hours. So the next day when he comes on his show and he's been taken on by his co-host, he was probably like, I've had enough. But it's interesting. I kind of like that.

If you're going to give it out, you should be able to take it. Like if he's going to give it out like that, you know, I find that really interesting. Or did he just walk off? He's like, this is going to be a great moment. And hey, being a soulless broadcaster, that's what I would have done. Well, now we're talking about it. The world's talking about it. You're right.

Exactly. We've played into his hands beautifully. Well done, Piers. You win this one. Yeah. I was going to talk about the other big news. No, that's it. I'm out.

I'm gone. You talk too long. Too long. On my show. Oh, he's a storm out. You can't sit here and listen to the other big news. Okay, and that is scrolling through your feed this morning. Paid to talk words and stuff into a microphone.

It's New Zealand's breakfast. Jono and Ben on the hits. It's 7.45 each morning on the show. We play our new game, Five Words for $5,000. We've given away $20,000 so far and five grand on the line with the Game of Word Association. And Jono, you've decided to need some more marketing on the show. You've written an ad.

Yeah, I've written an ad, but I haven't taken time for us to go into a proper professional recording booth and record the ad, so let's just do it live. Nothing quite like a live trailer read, is there? Do you find that, Ben? You kick it straight into it. I feel like we have the ability to record something like this

and talk through bits of it, but anyway, we'll do it live. We do. But we don't have the time, so we'll just do it in the show, in the moment, so there's a script in front of you and this is an advert for Five Words

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And now that's what I call Losers Out Now Yeah we should have Recorded that Should have I hadn't even read The script Yeah

You talked over Their last grab Yeah We'll do it again after 7 Okay we've had a good Read through It was a rehearsal It was a rehearsal We could still record it Yeah Before then We Yeah. We'll do it again after seven. Okay, we've had a good read-through. It was a rehearsal. It was a rehearsal.

We can still record it. Yeah. Before then. We don't have to do it live. Yeah. No, we'll be back live. Okay? We'll prove ourselves that we can read.

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I'm Rachel Jackson-Lees. And this is The B**** News. Yeah, this is where producer Juliet beeps out words from news headlines around the world and some form of sick early morning punishment to make our brains work hard as we try and figure out what the stories are. First headline. B**** are back after they appear again in multiple fashion shows. Oh, something's back in fashion shows.

I'm going to say Monster Energy flat peak caps. Monster Energy flat peak caps. Oh, they were, you know, circa 2000. Yeah, they were a big thing, eh? I had my fair share of Monster Energy flat peak caps. Yeah, they were very big at the burnouts, very big at places like that, right? Yeah, I'm going to say Melnara Supermodels are back.

Oh, no. At fashion shows. They'd been missing for a couple of years. Oh God. Budgie smugglers are back after they appear again in multiple fashion shows. Designer brands like Versace are now modelling them and selling

them for at least $200. So budgie smugglers are back. You talk to my dad, they never went away. He's ridden them out. Really? Some people like them and can pull them off. I don't mean like pull them off in like... Not in public.

I had them on, now I've pulled them off. It's like Ben's pulling those off. Oh, he's literally... Pulling them off. There are children and women around. But some people will just walk around and you're like, yeah, uncomfortable. I just feel like...

I tell you who looks great in them. Anyone over the age of 70. Looks exceptional in a pair of budgie smugglers. And you'll find a lot of the NRL players, don't they? When you see them on the news, they're frolicking around in budgie smugglers after a game. And they've got the bodies for it. God, we went and did something on the Gold Coast. Remember that a couple of years ago? And the game was essentially that undies, undies, togs thing.

And we walked from the beach on Surfers Paradise and we had to walk into Surfers Paradise. So this is where all the shots are. So how long could we keep walking before one of us went, oh, we've got too far, I'm embarrassed, I can't do it. Oh, my God. We went in deep. And my milky white thighs.

On the Gold Coast, they really stand out because everyone, you know, is so bronze and beautiful all over. Yeah, it wasn't. They were like, what is this ghost? It's probably the reason the bubble wasn't open all those years ago. It was us. Plane forced to make emergency landing after *** attacks pilot. The pilot was attacked.

I don't know, cassava chips. Surely they would attack them, right? Or the cookie. It's always a big choice. Yeah, it's a good tough choice. What do you go, know. Cassava chips. Surely they would attack them, right? Or the cookie. It's always a big choice. Yeah, it's a good tough choice. What do you go, Ju? Cassava or cookie chips? Cookie.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm a cookie gal. I'm going to say a fear of flying attacks the pilot. Plane forced to make emergency landing after cat attacks pilot. Bit of a catastrophe, you could say. Oh, well done, our little punny daughter. All grown up. They don't know where the cat came from, you could say. Oh, well done, our little punny daughter. All grown up.

They don't know where the cat came from, but it just literally resisted all. A cat out of the bag. Ah, there we go, there we go. There was just a cat in the cockpit. Yeah, yeah, so they took off, and I think it was like 20 minutes into the flight, this cat had somehow gotten to the cockpit. They think it got in from the night before when the plane was just kind of by itself with no one in it somehow. Somehow, and it just went, and just did not stop attacking, They think it got in from the night before when the plane was just kind of by itself with no one in it somehow. Somehow.

And it just went, and just did not stop attacking. So they literally had to land the plane. No, because the pilot was just injured by this cat. Oh, jeez. How dangerous, eh? You never think about that. No. Out of all the news, ever that a cat attacking the pilot is very, very unusual.

And the final headline. Dutch clubbers take to the dance floor for... I'm going to say Dutch clubbers take to the dance floor for a Dutch oven battle to the death. Macarena? Well, they did the macarena, bringing that back. Dutch clubbers take to the dance floor for COVID-19 experiment. So the government decided to try and figure out how they could hold concerts or festivals or nightclubs safer than how it would have been if it was fully packed.

So I think it was 1,300 people went to this venue that actually fit 17,000 people. They divided them into five little dance groups. They drank these types of drinks that were fluorescent, not toxic, so they could monitor how much people spat when they sang and danced along. So it was like a very, very interesting. Apparently like tens of thousands of people tried to apply for tickets for this thing because they were so desperate to go and dance and go to a nightclub. Oh, geez, I tell you what, I always socially distance myself from the dance floor. I always just like to stand back so they don't have to worry about me going on the dance floor and spitting. What were the results?

Because I imagine it would be quite a spitty environment tonight. You know when you're talking to someone and you're facing them like, da, da, da. And singing along. Yeah, you're right. I don't know about the results of the spitting, but I think they came to the conclusion that they would be able to hold venues if they sort of separated people into little groups

and people were, you know, cornered off to their own drink section and so it kind of reduces the risk. Aren't people in their own groups anyway, their own friend groups? Yeah, but if you're all combined into one arena, you know. It's like a roster for getting on the dance floor. 9.42, the Smith party may now enter the dance floor. Yeah, well, that's a good idea as well. And everyone gets to stand around and watch them dance.

That'll be fun. And that's a good idea as well. And everyone gets to stand around and watch them dance. That'll be fun. And that's the news and beats. Ben and Jono call this show Jono and Ben. Breakfast on the Hits. The Hits. Bye. Brought to you by the Rainbow Explorer train. Getting you to Wellington's Pride Festival. More info at thehits.co.nz. Listen, she's

got more dirt on the celebrities than their shower drains. Come on in, Juliet. What's happening in Spy? Buckingham Palace have released a statement following Meghan and Harry's interview with Oprah. So they have, it says, the whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan. The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning.

While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much-loved family members. And that's it. Taking the high ground there. It's a good statement.

Sort it out behind closed doors. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Something that, I guess, Meghan and Harry could have sorted out behind closed doors. So that statement sort of reads to me like this is the first time they're hearing

of these issues that Meghan and Harry had. I don't know. Maybe, maybe. Whether or not that person who mentioned the skin colour of Archie will remember, I don't know. I mean, Thomas Markle, who's Meghan Markle's father, has done an interview. He also said he's going to do an interview. That's unlike Thomas Markle to come out of the woodwork. So he's still not really in a close relationship with his daughter, right?

No, so they don't speak. Megan, they both sort of claim that they try to reach out to each other, but they don't really get a response, particularly Thomas. He has done an interview and he says he's going to keep doing interviews, I think, every month or something until Megan responds to him. But this is what he had to say about it. This thing about what colour will the baby be or how dark will the baby be,

I'm guessing and hoping it's just a dumb question from somebody. It could just be that simple. It could be somebody's asked a stupid question. All right, so that's Thomas Markle, who, remember back in the wedding days of Megan and Harry, Thomas released his own range of hoodies. Oh, he was going to. Did he not get around to it?

In 2018. I don't know. I asked Producer Juliet about that. Well, this is big news for us. I remember at the time we were like, when's the hoodies? Because we got someone to order one and we never received it. So I don't know if he had some. I was looking before.

I couldn't find whether he had. It was 2018. He was saying he was going to release his own line of clothing, particularly for older men, but also with hoodies as well. And we were like, hey, we'll get a hoodie. But I haven't seen anywhere you can buy them. Nothing like an older man in a hoodie. That's a good market.

But it's just messy all around, this thing. You know, her relationship with her father and her siblings, her former friends, she's fallen out with a couple of them now. This messy relationship I mean it's a family spat being played out everywhere in the world yeah that's really sad

it's sad that people are making a statement about a family situation now I think the issue also being is Harry and Megan probably did this interview thinking that everything that they say will set the record

straight about what has gone on behind closed doors but I don't think they would have realised that it actually would have started so much more chaos than if they let it be. And what it's also done is raised questions about the legitimacy of what they're

saying. So the people who are anti Meghan and Harry are Harry are like, well, that can't be true. And they're fact-checking everything as well. So it's spiralled into a whole other debate. I tell you, the only win out of this is we're not talking about coronavirus. I mean, we haven't had to speak about COVID-19 for the last 48 hours and find new angles on that. I mean, it's been 12 months in. It's tough for a radio show out there to find another parody song about coronavirus. That is very valid.

And that is Spy. For more, you can head to thehits.co.nz. From stealing Mike Hosking's car to stealing the hearts of New Zealand. Jono and Ben, New Zealand's breakfast on the Hits. Actual hearts being not bestowed. We're wrapping up our show. It's a big day in New Zealand. We're very excited.

Emirates team New Zealand out there on the water this afternoon. The first race of the America's Cup. Can we hold on to it? We hope so. It starts at 4.15 today. All right. Before we shoot off, we're doing a little fun little thing with Genesis at the moment. I don't know if you've seen the ads on TV speaking of America's Cup.

They've got these shirts which they're putting on people. Futuristic shirts. Yeah, they've got like, they measure basically the amount of energy you as an Emirates Team New Zealand supporter give out and then they give that energy back as free power to some of the generous schools they support. Yeah, that's right. And so when I put this shirt on, I feel like I'm wearing

2055 on my chest. It's the future, isn't it? Yeah. And it's too tight. The future's too tight for me. My guts just hang underneath this shirt. Did it shrink from the last time we tried it on? I think so. Yeah, I think it definitely shrunk. Very tight.

My body's not designed for Lycra. I could never be one of those people on the weekends and sponsored Lycra riding on a bicycle or something. But I've squeezed into this shirt, and we're going to spend an hour, aren't we, trying to exert as much energy as we can in these shirts. I've got a good plan in mind. Have you got a plan for how much energy

you're going to give? You know, you've got a little game plan? Would it be good if I said yes now? Well, if you think Jono or Ben will exert the most amount of energy,

just text 4487 without either Jono or Ben. And thanks to Genesis, we've got a pretty awesome Emirates Team New Zealand fan experience in Auckland that you could win. Genesis,

they put the energy in. Genesis, give it back. Now, tomorrow on the show, we've got to tell you a vaccine expert on. Very interesting. Rumours around the vaccine, any false truths that are being spread about the vaccine. We're going to get her on after 8 o'clock tomorrow. Have a great day, New Zealand. We'll catch you tomorrow from 6.

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